When did putting content behind a paywall in a $60 game become an acceptable thing to do?
>B-But you can spend 2000 hours to unlock it if you play the game
>B-But it's cosmetic
>B-But it's okay when blizzard does it
>>338840791
When is the $60 meme going to die?
>>338840791
Great thread, it's not like this hasn't been a thing since last gen. Did you start playing video games last year?
Fuck off and learn how to troll better. I don't even play this game either.
>you can get duplicates of what you already have
blizzard kikes will defend this
>>338840791
Not sure what game started it... Is overwatch the first pay-2-play AAA game that allows you to purchase game content quicker? I guess GTA 5 did it also? It's a fucking disgusting practice.
i dont really mind it considering theyve committed to releasing all future characters and maps for free. that is the trade off. i prefer this model to selling gameplay changing stuff like characters, maps, weapons, etc.
Was thinking about getting this.
What happened to 100 crates for $40? Is that a meme or is OP?
>>338841195
/thread
>>338840791
Since fanboys, stated thinking the fact that they'll pay for anything bakes both them and the product better, and devils advocates who believe this somehow makes more content faster.
>>338840791
I don't see the problem. You can buy the boxes or unlock them while playing the game. It's not like you get the boxes but have to buy the keys to unlock them
>>338841049
Is this true?
Literally never buying this already mediocre game if this is true. What happens to the duplicates?
>>338841240
Pretty sure those are Canadian Prices, the going rate is 1:$1 American and you get 1 crate for "free" at $10, 4 at $20 and 10 at $40.
People who buy lootboxes are the cancer. Literal cucks. Paid for the game then paid for cosmetics because they're adhd-kids
What the fuck does the currency do
>>338841281
Yes. Duplicates are automatically dusted for a fraction of their crafting cost.
Whites dust for 5 coins and cost 25 coins to make.
Blues, 25/75.
Purples, 50/250.
Oranges, 250/1000.
Coins piles of each rarity are worth (no white pile) 50, 150, 500.
>>338840791
>it's fine when shills points 250000+ twitch viewers and opens 10 threads in a minutes
>it's not fine when bb supposed to be shills points that twitch viewers dropped to 50k
>b-but who cares about twitch views?
>y-you can't measure how good a game is by the number of people watching it
>it's fine to open and keep up at least 14 shillwatch threads at any given time cause meme souls did the same
>except that were half of them and they weren't even bashing other games or baiting other people in
>it's fine cause blizzard cock gobblers can do this and that
>>338840791
>Playing Pharah and enjoying her.
>Want the Anubis armor.
>Epic skins drop instead for Tracer etc.
>Get 250 currency in the game.
>Buy said armor with in game currency.
>Just barely lvl 10.
>>338841353
Lets you unlock stuff individually.
>>338841490
>What the fuck does the currency do
You can buy skins with it
>>338841572
>Barely level 10
>I'm over here at 11 with 1 Epic and <100 Coins, no Leggos
>>338840791
As long they keep the promise of free updates I'm ok with it.
>Get Legendary Mei, Winston, and two Reaper skins
>I don't even play these losers
>>338840791
>2016
>complaining about purchasable cosmetics in AAA games
Yep those skins sure do give those people with spending money who want to support games they enjoy such a ludicrous advantage in said games
Who cares about cosmetics that you get every level?
>>338840791
> Skins, quotes, and fucking SPRAYS
> Content
> $60
>>338841639
Sucks to be you, I got multiple epics, maybe it has something to do with getting accommodations +5 or multiple play of the games anon, fuck if I know.
>>338841505
>>338841281
Is this stuff tradable? Can you get the same stuff again from a bos?
>>338842279
No you can't trade and dupes turn into coins which you can then use on whatever unlock you want
>can get duplicates
>cannot trade duplicates
>can only turn duplicates into 1/5 or 1/100th of another item
>Blizzcucks will defend this
I love how they try to claim Valve is Jewish when Blizzard does shit like this.
>>338842692
>Duplicates instantly turn into currency to unlock anything you desire.
>>338840791
>Caring about cosmetic shit
I hate millenials
>>338842692
>5/25 25/75 50/250 250/1000 is 1/100th
1/4 or 1/5th.
I'd rather they dust at a 1:1 rate like they said they might back in an old dev video late last year, but this is passable.
>>338840791
There was an attempt. Have a (You) on the house.
>The loot system is pretty much exactly the same as Hearthstone except you cannot dust shit you don't want and getting boxes takes longer than it takes to get packs in Hearthstone
Feels pretty bad tbhsenpai
>>338840791
Oblivion
>>338840791
>When did putting content behind a paywall in a $60 game become an acceptable thing to do?
>B-But you can spend 2000 hours to unlock it if you play the game
Literally nothing wrong with it. Blizzard is a shitty jew company for many other reasons, but this isn't one of them. It's literally all worthless shit means nothing that you can get by playing for free. The lootboxes are just a gamble anyway that take advantage of peoples impatience.
>>338840791
Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU'RE JUST P-P-P-P-POOR!! H-HA!!!
>cosmetis is content.meme
/v/ dosnt know what gameplay is.
Somehow im not supriesed.
>muh "its a $60 game"!!!!!!!!!!!!1
>content
>skins you can't even see when you play because FPS
>>338843014
>Can't come up with any legitimate counterarguments
>Maymayimage.jpg
i bought TF2 for 20€ when the game wasn't free
ended up with a steam wallet profit of 170€ from the game which i used to buy other games
can this be done with overwatch?
Sounds more like you're addicted to unlocking stuff and are pissy that it takes longer to unlock it in comparison to other games
>>338841869
>maining in OW
You failed.
>>338843374
>selling items
>blizzard
lel
>>338843374
No.
It subsidizes the future free content updates. Same reason why GTAV has tons of free multiplayer updates.
>>338843374
I understand you like do furry prostitution but this is not something you should be proud of or vocal about it.
>>338841049
Except it gives you currency if that happens based on rarity of the item. Which you can then use to buy whatever item you want.
>>338843494
>>338843559
guess i'll wait until it becomes F2P then.
thanks.
>>338841086
The first game I really remember doing it was TF2(Mann co update was before the game went F2P in case you forgot). It might not have been the first but it really seemed to popularize the gamblebox mechanic that is found in so many other f2p and $60 f2p games.
>>338841280
This argument is bullshit. They wouldn't put microtransactions in a game for people NOT to buy them. The entire drop system is built around being able to spend real money on the gambleboxes. If that option wasn't there, the cosmetics would have been tied to achievements or milestones instead of skinnerbox rng that abuses player psychology to get them to spend money.
>>338841195
Just like the gambleboxes are ""free"", you'll just have to grind a few hundred games until you get the new hero you want from a box. This is exactly the same system black ops 3(another fantastic activision blizzard game) had.
>>338842816
If you think microtransactions are okay in a full priced game, you are the millennial.
>>338843369
>THIS assblasted
>When others already blew the OP the fuck out
Pitiful.
>>338843568
Yeah free cosmetic updates because that's what raking in dosh. Releasing new heroes or maps doesn't give them cash so they'll barely release new ones.
>>338840791
It wouldn't be authentic game without korean gambling.
>>338843769
I hope you will live long enough.
What the fuck are sprays
Are they for some mode i havent played yet
Everything except for skins seem useless and even skins are only fun for a minute or two
>>338844073
And because they don't want to split the audience.
>>338841049
Fuck off with your edgy racist bullshit against Jews.
>>338843879
What's funny though is that these gambleboxes will never be as popular as weapon crates in games like CS:GO because the cosmetics in Overwatch are literally worthless.
>>338844227
Press T in game to tag the wall or floor with your spray
this is the worse type of micro transaction.
Gambling money away so you can have more chances of getting that item you wanted.
>>338844227
It's almost like they're not the focus of the game
>>338844239
good goy
>>338844227
Im baffled how people can be stupid to think you need cosmetics in game for anything at all.
Is there any reason to play this over dirty bomb?
Sure dirty bomb also forces a grind or pay model, but at least the game is free.
>>338840791
As soon as morons paid for it.
Why would you buy anything from Blizzard at this point? What would they have to do that is so egregious that you no longer support them?
>>338844227
They're all cosmetic things which is why threads like this are retarded
>>338840791
>You literally can't play the game without these skins
>There's no way to unlock them besides playing
>It's only a problem when Blizzard does it
>>338843181
XP gain scales with your level. By level 40 it takes 3 hours of gameplay in order to earn one crate. And it only gets worse from that point on.
Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that, [-]
>implying they won't add new weapons for each hero eventually
It worked for CoD it'll work for Overwatch. This is Activision we are on about
>>338840791
>How dead do you want your F2P game in a month?
>Just fuck my Overwatch cash shop end game up senpai
>>338840964
Don't talk to me or my wifes son ever again
>>338843485
Who said anything about maining, gheiboi?
>>338844653
Why do you have to lie?. XP stops scaling at level 21 and resets to level 1 amounts once you hit 100
>>338844583
Put actual important content behind a paywall instead of cosmetic shit. I haven't even used the cosmetics I've already unlocked, why should I care if the game is trying to make me buy more?
>>338844653
No it doesn't.
>>338844512
They're addicted to skinner boxes, that's all it is
>>338840791
5 years ago
>>338843879
>Just like the gambleboxes are ""free"", you'll just have to grind a few hundred games until you get the new hero you want from a box
You're pulling that out of your ass, theres no proof you'll have to do that for the new heroes. I'm not defending Blizzard because we all know they're shit, but try to at least have some weight to your points.
>>338843879
>They wouldn't put microtransactions in a game for people NOT to buy them.
it's an option. I'm pretty sure some people played the game enough times to get the skins they want.
>If that option wasn't there, the cosmetics would have been tied to achievements or milestones instead of skinnerbox rng that abuses player psychology to get them to spend money.
Then that's the player fault in buying them.
>spergs are so desperate for Overwatch to fail they're bitching about paid cosmetics
What's /v/ gonna pick next? Releasing new characters for free is a sign that the game is gonna go f2p next week?
>>338841572
>Want Mechaqueen Pharah more than anything else in the game
>No way to work towards it
I like overwatch but this is bugging me more than anything else about the game
>Hero related achievements unlock sprays
I'm not sure whether to be happy because they're useless or annoyed because they're useless.
>>338845024
Save those coins compadre. When I was playing the beta by the time I was level 25 I already had about 800 or so coins. Just roll with it until you have enough. Its probably only about 15 hours of game time to get there anyway. Its not like you have to unlock everything by this weekend.
1997
>>338841195
>i dont really mind it considering theyve committed to releasing all future characters and maps for free
Yeah, for now maybe.
Once the potential profit outweighs the potential butthurt they'll sell whatever the hell they feel like.
Try to remember what company you're dealing with here.
I bought 10 boxes and got. Legendary skin for widow.
Worth stay mad poorfag
Level 23
>indian pharah
>jester junkrat
>helmetless reinhardt
>legendary gold
Stay mad kids
>>338844891
This. There's a billion and one reasons to hate Blizzard. Literally no reason to make shit up.
>>338840791
>its behind a paywall
>nevermind it not actually being behind a paywall
I unfortunately charging $60 for games stop being economical about 5-10 years ago. So it was either lower dev costs (bad graphics, less content) or squeeze more money out of consumers.
>>338845024
>no way to work towards it
??? Yes there is. Coins. I'm saving up for mechaqueen as well because never lucky.
>>338844910
It's an option to not buy them, but that's a decision the game forces you to make. Whether or not you choose to spend any money on these microtransactions, the game is still designed around them and tainted by it.
>>338845294
They won't sell heroes, they will be in gambleboxes and the blizzard shills will come out of the woodwork to call you entitled and defend it for being ""free"".
>>338844891
I'm not, as
>>338844712
mentioned, this is exactly the same system that was in Black Ops 3. It started out as just being cosmetic, and you unlocked a box every couple games, and all the retards defended it for being "free" and "optional". Then they went to add new weapons to the game, and the only way to get them were through the gambleboxes are a very low drop rate.
>>338840791
>Battleborn fags have noone left to play with so they keep making these threads.
>>338845372
>i paid 10 dollars for a skin that doesnt denote any achievement at all
4th box i opened got mecha pharha, i'm good thanks.
>>338845781
>It's an option to not buy them, but that's a decision the game forces you to make. Whether or not you choose to spend any money on these microtransactions, the game is still designed around them and tainted by it.
The game didn't force me to make any decision. I was never going to buy anything because cosmetic shit is pointless. So it's not fucking tainted.
>>338840791
>You get them for free at each level
>They're strictly cosmetic only
>This is worse than paylocked DLC that affects gameplay
Jesus fuck. This is the most mild form of microtransactions which have become the norm with even paid games and you guys are still bitching about it.
CS:GO does this and is cheap as shit, but it rakes in billions because idiots love to gamble and stream themselves gambling. It's why Hearthshit is so popular. Valve made this mainstream with TF2 when it still cost money, they are to blame for this shit.
>>338843749
blizzdrone detected, if you didnt get a dupe legendary then it woulda been a legendary aka free 1k, but no, the jew gold exists.
>>338844919
They're gonna attempt to say you need to buy any new heroes and maps that blizzard releases
Not realizing that blizzard already said all new heroes and maps are free
>its cosmetic
Yea thats fine anon
>>338840791
>only paid $40 for the Origins edition
>only played the game for about 3 hours so far
>already unlocked a "legendary" skin for Tracer
>unlock a handful of cosmetics every couple rounds
>giving a shit about skins = underage faggot
>giving a shit about skins enough to buy them with actual currency = super massive underage faggot
This is my first Blizzard game, but I have hankering for a new FPS game for a while now, and this one is fun and cute as fuck. Kind of reminds me of Timesplitters.
But my fucking god, the amount of butt-blasted babbies complaining about this game and spreading false information about it on /v/ is truly mind boggling.
I just don't get the reasoning behind the "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!!1!!11" mentality, especially to the incessant degree that this game has been getting.
>>338844793
you need to take a break dude
>>338846031
It's people that are still mad the game isn't free
>>338844775
>Put actual important content behind a paywall instead of cosmetic shit.
Like hearthstone adventures?
Like HotS heroes?
Like WoW gameplay and expansions?
>>338845781
I was gonna say something but >>338845923 already said it for me. There's no way this game forces you to do this.
>>338846031
People are dedicated to shitting on Blizzard more than any other company I can think of. Hell hath no fury like a nerd scorned.
Then don't fucking buy it then, Jesus.
>>338846192
I never thought I would see the day when people actually prefer F2P over B2P. It's like evereybody forget that it's either microtransactions or Season Passes this day and age. This is the most tame form of microtransactions available.
>>338846014
>Not realizing that blizzard already said all new heroes and maps are free
They've also said they would never charge for various services they do in fact charge for now.
Them saying all the characters/maps in the future would be free was nothing more than feelgood PR, because saying otherwise (or saying nothing) would've been a complete disaster considering how low the fucks-given meter was at for this game that far back before launch.
>>338846274
People are also dedicated to shilling for Blizzard more than any other company. They have entire armies of gormless fans happy to buy whatever they put out.
>>338846203
I only use a few HoTS heroes and I unlocked all of the ones I use in a few days of play. Ive got enough coins left over that if I like a character in the free rotation I can buy it on the spot.
I don't play Hearthstone but that's a CCG, the very nature of a CCG is that you pay for shit.
And expansions =/= microtransactions. unless you're trying to tell me that the cash shop shit like new mounts are super important. Not that I play WoW anymore anyway.
Blizzard hasn't locked anything I want behind a paywall including Overwatch because I don't give a shit about skins so why should I hate them?
>>338846001
And you can't even trade
>>338846542
>People are also dedicated to shilling for Blizzard more than any other company. They have entire armies of gormless fans happy to buy whatever they put out.
Blizzard is pretty much the American equivalent of Nintendo. A bunch of spastic and vocal fucktards who do nothing but either shill to shit or bitch to oblivion. Bethesda could probably compete in terms of marketing but not at all with their actual games since they are broken and buggy as fuck.
The japanese fell for the gacha meme
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8590775.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsr6vHJ1zqc
>>338846110
But it'sfun
If you think skins are the most important part of the game then you are as bad as the people who actually buy them.
>>338846618
Wow he actually defended it lmfao what a madman
>Finally level 12 after a dozen shitty games with several crashing my video card, something that never happened in the Stress weekends or Open beta
>2nd Epic, still no Legendaries
>It's another Higlight Intro
>For Zarya
>So I'll NEVER see it
I hate RNG.
>>338847151
>finally get a legendary
>it's a symmetra skin
>get two epics later
>They're both intros for symmetra
RNG a shit.
>>338847106
Defended what? I'm sorry if skins are so important to you that charging money for them makes you go ballistic and post fifty threads an hour on 4chan but I actually don't care you fucking casual shit.
>>338846192
>>338846274
I think you might be right.
>>338846404
I agree. What I hate about all new FPS is their retarded amount of content locked behind pay walls. It's why I still play CS:Source over CS:GO. That and the fact that CS:GO has a community of pure childish autism surrounding the "skin marker."
I was really happy to find a new FPS that is a full game at a regular price. I don't give two shits about skins. I just want a full and fun game and Overwatch has delivered. The bonus skins I get every few rounds are kind of neat, but can't for the life of me wrap my brain around the children who feel compelled to pay extra money for these.
I honestly wanted to give the game a shot, but the fact that there is an ingame shop keeps me from it. Yes, at present there are only loot crates, and anyone buying them has brain damage, but knowing Blizzard there will be a lot more comming up. So, a pass it is.
>>338840791
1. 7th gen
2. Nothing in Overwatch is behind a paywall other then the Origin and pre-order skins.
>>338846203
I don't mind Microtransactions in a F2P game, I do in a game you have to buy.
>>338846192
>>338846404
I was happy when they announced the game would be $40 because I thought it would mean it wouldn't have this kind of bullshit crate system.
>>338841086
EA started this shit eons ago and theres a lot of other triple As with micro transaction
>battlefield 3 lets you pay to skip entirety of level progression system
>battlefield 4 has the same and has crates in same vain as overwatch crates
>dead space 3 lets you buy weapons and upgrades with cash
>COD advanced warfare and blops 3 has crates that functions the same as overwatch and also buying load out slots
>every single modern capcom fighting game has skins that can only be unlocked with cash and even dlc characters locked onto the disk
>GTA 5 cash shit
>assassins creed games have option to pay for upgrades and resources
this is a common practice now, theres literally no reason for anyone to sperg out on overwatch's system considering its by far the one of the least intrusive one of them all and the locked content are all absolutely pointless in the grand scheme of things. This ensures that the game continues making money off of the players even after the initial purchase, its easy to implement and objectively theres not a single bad thing you can say about the system without sounding like a sperg
>>338847301
epic shitpost
>>338847286
Fuck man, I'd love that.
Hey, it worked for CS:GO, can't blame them for trying. At least it's just cosmetics.
>>338845024
you will have enough coins if you are average luck at around level 30 to buy a legendary skin
>>338843485
you can literally play mcree in any situation if you are good
>>338843132
>Hearthstone needs usually 2 or 3 quests, which takes the same number of days to get, otherwise it takes 30 games
>OW Crates can be acquired in about an hour if you're decent.
>>338840791
>B-but $60 is a lot of money
>B-but my mom won't let me use her credit card anymore
>B-but it's unacceptable!
>>338847716
>level 30
>I'm only at 125 coins at level 12
Haha. 18 more levels at that rate will be enough for 2 Epics.
surprised people are still bitching since this >>338843568 is the most likely reason. so wait until they introduce "sidegrade" weapons into the mix.
>>338847581
You are a fucking casual though you understand that right? Skins aren't important to the game it's juts bullshit that gets in the way.
>>338847850
keep up the random name calling you fucking blizzdrone cuck
I'm actually amazed that I know someone that spent $40 on the loot crates after spending $60 on the game.
They bought the $60 origins version on PC.
>>338840845
When are consoles going to stop vastly outselling the PC platform, making them the defacto point of view for discussion?
>>338847151
>play zarya
>ult
>right click
i've gotten like 4 potg doing that and its the easiest shit, just gotta have good timing
>2000 hours is a lot
I want neo-/v/ to leave
>>338840964
>It's been shit for a while, so that makes it being crammed down our throats less abhorrent!
>>338843014
Buttsecks?
>Finally decide I'm an impatient fuck with money to waste
>Buy the 24 box "deal"
Wish me luck, Anons.
Feel free to call me a "Good Goi."
>>338847794
>if you are good
Mccree is the most braindead easy character in the game. Press E, Right click, beat every character in the game. I main him and I fully expect some sort of nerf.
>>338847573
If you really think Activision-Blizzard is going to make a game with a cash shop built into it and only ever sell gachapon crates you may actually be retarded.
Sure, its only the crates now, but then the game has only just come out. Acti-Blizz has to gauge what kind of consumerbase they've managed to wrangle up, see how defensive they are of the game on the official forums, how many are already clamoring for a chance to give them more money.
Shit I remember when /v/ collectively fucking loathed Activision for the shit it pulled, a shame that's gone out of style so much since the merger.
>>338847931
Why are you getting so mad about being called a casual? You only play games for the cosmetics that objectively makes you a fucking casual.
>>338841195
>for free
Nigga you already bought the game
What the fuck dude. Overwatch's microtransaction system is the most basic i've EVER SEEN! The only thing you can buy is BOX! And where i live, 50 box cost 39 euro, so i can buy 150 box with 100 euro. It's so cheap it's crazy. i'm sure they will make it more expensive.
>>338847818
i guess you are kind of unlucky then?im around 16 right now with around 300, in the beta i got around 800 by level 26
>>338848049
>Expecting these new gen ADHD gamers who can't play a game more than 10 hours and only live to shit on newly released games to know what it's like to sink years into multiplayer games
kek
>>338848213
>You only play games for the cosmetics that objectively makes you a fucking casual
What in all fuck are you talking about?
Keep spouting random shit all day you fucking retard
retards who are saying
>it is just gosmetigs guise it is fine!!!!
I will laugh my ass off when they introduce new pay to play heroes and a chance of unlocking said here in a box
screencap this post and post it when this happens so blizzcucks can't deny it
>>338848371
How about you screencap your own post like you are going to do anyway and bring it up
>Bought 5
>Got trash
>Now I know never to buy another
>>338848107
when i play him i get butt fucked in every exchange where i cant land a stun, fanning is risky and his left click is slow as shit
>>338848103
>First box is Genji's Nomad
>2nd box is 150 coins
>8 is an Epic Winston, desert camo
>9 is a Mcree Highlight
>14 is 150 coins
>17 is a Pharah Highlight
>20 is 150 coins
>Box 24 is Biker Torbjorn
>No Epics or Leggos for the characters I like
Well, at least I have a padded library so I get more shit dusted.
>820 coins after a combined total 35 boxes
Thanks, Blizzard, for cucking me out of my money legitimately.
Open two legendaries, reskinned color of the same legendary, the 80 reskins in this game are cancer, blizzdrones defend anything
>>338848205
in theory what can they add to it? paying to get an mmr boost in ranked?
Game was only $40 fampai
>tfw you get just the skin you wanted for your favorite hero from the first loot box
>>338848371
This is incredibly obvious to anyone who isn't naive or braindead. The best part is that blizzdrones will fucking defend it when it happens.
>>338848735
Exp multipliers, in extreme chars and maps.
>>338848450
Lol rekt
>>338848768
TF2 was $20 and never more
>>338847509
What paid game doesn't have some sort of microtransaction/DLC system? Let alone what Blizzard game?
>Game puts up a cash shop for cosmetics
>charges you $60 for all maps, and heroes forever
Somehow monetizing a game in some way post launch that ultimately isn't necessary to the game, is somehow half of /v/;s worst nightmare.
I really have to ask, >>338840791
How old are you? you do realize that games are a business not a privilege?
When did putting billboards on a tollroad an acceptable thing to do? Who do they think they are cramming their advertisements down our throats?
How dare they FORCE me to buy their product? How dare they make me a victim unable to choose what I want to and dont want to buy? Even if not buying this product effects me in no way at all, this is unacceptable!
>>338848735
Characters, maps, "content packs", cosmetics bundles, Exp multipliers like >>338848895 said.
They'll think of plenty of shit they can charge people for, hell, I bet there's already people on the official forums scrambling to think of new reasons give Acti-Blizz their money.
>>338847970
Dont PC version of games usually outsell the consoles?
>>338849189
>Yeah Activision Blizzard kidnapped my firstborn and sold him into sex slavery, but hey, it's a business and they have to make money :^)
>>338847970
>Being so delusional
>>338849395
Holy shit your delusion is strong.
>>338848484
>Buy 5
>Get Decent shit.
>Get enough cash to buy what I want for D.va
>Feel pretty Confident
>Buy 5 more
>Get shit
I'm done.
>>338840791
The game should be F2P.
>each character has 54 different things to unlock
>two boxes cost $2 or some shit
>>338840791
The cosmetic argument isn't wrong. You don't NEED anything that's locked behind the paywall to actually enjoy the game unless you're some kind of obsessive completionist. In which case, I'd imagine playing for 2000 hours wouldn't seem that bad.
>>338840791
I don't get it either. But shitters will and have always eaten this up.
>>338842813
>a 1000 legendary will turn into 250 coins
>>338845521
>21
>gundam pharah
>chopper torbjorn
>bandit McCree
>B.va
:^)
>>338849479
It's not your job as a consumer to look after the profits of corporations, nor is it your job to defend their shitty business practices. You don't owe anything to Activision Blizzard and they aren't going to pat you on the head and call you a good goy for defending their honor on an internet forum. What benefit is it to you, as a consumer, that these micro transactions are in a game that you paid full price for? If there is none, why are you in favor of them?
>>338849589
CS:GO isn't free but it's cheap so nobody complains.
>>338849814
cs has a 20 years old community from way before these things
>>338849664
It is wrong. Content is content.
Having better graphics doesn't give you an advantage either, does that make it okay to sell graphical options? Pre order at Gamestop to unlock the Ultra High options!
>>338849813
Your comparison of having a child sold for sex slavery and Overwatch having microtransactions creates is grossly exaggerated and only makes you look like a retard.
I don't give a fuck what these corporations do but you're an enormous delusional faggot or a shitposter.
>>338848224
It's not even a full price game box. How the fuck do you expect them to maintain a team to add updates and content to the game post-launch if there is no money coming in?
Do you think GTAV would have had the pile of free extra content it does now if not for shark cards?
>>338849889
That makes it okay to have the same gambling system Overwatch has?
>pink Bastion
>pink Symmetra
no stop
I'm not a fag
>>338840791
Content is not the same as cosmetics
>>338849189
>But they're a business and they have to make money!
God if there's a more tiring and worn out bit of argument that gets brought up in Acti-Blizz's defense I sure as fuck can't think of it.
At least with guys whiteknighting girls on the internet you figure there's the whole sex aspect turning them into idiots, but I have never been able to wrap my head around people doing it for corporations.
>>338849905
I guess you're right. I'm not buying the game either way, so I guess I don't really care if Blizz is being jewy about it.
>>338847970
Pc games outsell consoles versions for a huge margin.
Gotham city imposters used microtransactions for power ups that only work for 2 HOURS
It's literally okay when Blizzard does it. There is NOTHING they can't get away with now.
Once people let them get away with always online Diablo 3, they probably realized they can do fucking anything, and people would still buy their shit.
>>338849814
>complains about over exaggerated analogies
>on /v/
>>338850018
The same way TF2 did. In a multiplayer game, players are the content. The purpose of those free tf2 updates everyone loved wasn't to be nice, it was to retain players so that new players would purchase the game.
>>338840791
>>B-But you can spend 2000 hours to unlock it if you play the game
You can't even do that. You had to preorder the super duper edition to get everything.
>>338840791
The prophecy foretold that overwatch would be Evolve 2nd coming and blizzdrones would eat it up ...
>>338849813
>ITS OKAY IF ROCKSTAR DOES IT
Fuck off. Acting like theyre forcing you to buy shit
>>338840791
It is cosmetic (that you dont even see yourself in game) and only retards would make any deal it...
OP is as always a fag and would do the world a great service in killing himself
>>338840791
>But you can spend 20 hours to unlock it if you play the game
What's wrong with. Oh let me see your stupid complain
>Waaahh me not want microtransactions!!1
Well guess what, you little shit. WELCOME TO REALITY
>>338849021
And they charged for keys and everything.
>>338849021
Plus keys.
>>338849905
>its wrong because I say so
Youre directly comparing something that doesnt change anything to something that does.
>>338850054
no
it means 20 yo fanboys will are too fiel to change to a better game
Is everybody forgetting that you get loot boxes for levelling?
Besides, all games have cosmetic cash shops these days. It's not like LoL where characters are locked behind paywalls, it's just cosmetics.
>>338850603
So CS drones are no better than Blizzdrones. Valvedrones and Blizzdrones seem to accompany each other nicely and yet they both hate each other.
Must be a PC master race thing.
I don't like that they put mircotransactions in the game, especially since it's not F2P but holy shit their system is nowhere near bad enough to warrant outrage
>>338850693
>Is everybody forgetting that you get loot boxes for levelling?
Yeah, one box per hour of gameplay.
I'm still getting nothing but whites and blues at level 17.
>>338850330
Hasn't Rockstar consistently gone out of their way to nerf any means for players to grind a decent amount of cash up GTA:Online? That's what I seem to remember hearing pretty often.
I ask because I never even touched it once I saw they were pulling this shark card bullshit.
>>338850505
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Item_timeline
Crates and keys were added 3 years and several updates after TF2's release.
Nice to see Blizzfags going full damage control with this thread. You've helped destroy the gaming industry.
>>338850693
NNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
IF I DUN HAV DAH SPESHUL SKIN AND VOICE LINE I WANT THEN ITS AN EVIL PAYWALL NAD LITERALLY HITLER MADE THIS GAME
>>338850223
>The same way TF2 did.
By selling content?
Or are we pretending TF2 has no micro-transactions now?
Keys are a thing.
>>338849342
GAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO
Not even anywhere near slightly close
>>338850908
TF2 at least has trading and allows you to just buy anything you want. No matter what, the Overwatch system is full of Hebrew RNG where your odds are never actually affected since you can get duplicates.
>>338841572
>main Mercy
>get favorite devil skin for her in one box
>get 500 credits in another box after
I can get Valkyrie skin soon :^)
>>338850283
muh single pre-order bonus skin that (IMO) looks like shit
>>338850848
They nerfed the ways that were obviously exploiting, like selling a car with very specific mods for $100,000.
They've increased the rewards from doing missions since launch, and they added Heists with make you the most money by far. They also added VIP more which is another way to make decent money.
So, no, they actually made it easier to get money since launch.
>>338845781
They have already said that the reason maps and heros are free is to keep the playing field even and not to divide the community.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass by says they will be in the loot boxes.
>>338850223
>The purpose of those free tf2 updates everyone loved wasn't to be nice, it was to retain players so that new players would purchase the game.
yeah for a year or two
then they hit us with the cash shop and started selling hats and items
>>338851070
Still locking content behind a paywall.
>>338850150
>>338849342
Show the numbers, we all know some PC games sell better, but they are far inbetween, even the Witcher 3 PS4 version outsold the PC version 4x more, Xbox one version selling around 3x more too, fucking retards man.
>>338851031
>TF2 at least has trading and allows you to just buy anything you want.
Thats the only reason its at all tolerable, since TF2 items is not purely costmetic (unlike Overwatch)
Also Overwatch does have the coin system, which deals with duplicates and lets you buy specific things you want.
>>338851167
Just like every other game does, right? I'm fairly sure they'll make it available to everyone in due time.
Just like every other game does.
None of this is new.
Fighting games are full-priced games
Recently they've started selling skins for the characters
Heck, sometimes characters are unlockable via completing story modes and stuff
>>338840791
>YFW gearbox are spamming these threads all over /v/
Randy go to bed
>>338850908
>>338851137
see
>>338850848
If we're going to compare Overwatch to what TF2 was like at launch you should at least try to remember that the game had almost 4 years of microtransaction-less life with numerous content updates, while OW couldn't even get out the gate without an in-game store.
>>338851272
>Also Overwatch does have the coin system
Where you get barely enough coins for a skin every 20 boxes, and duplicates give you pennies.
>>338851328
>it's okay when blizzard does it because everyone else does ;3c
>>338842813
Sounds right. Items vendor for 1/4 their value in World of Warcraft.
who here waiting for the game to go free to play?
it's gonna happen at some point
>>338849814
No, fuck valve. They're up there with Activision and EA in my eyes.
>>338850330
No where in that post does it mention Rockstar, I refused to buy GTA 5 when I saw you could buy in-game currency.
>>338850603
>overwatch
>better than literally anything
>no dedicated servers, no one talks, games are over in a couple minutes
>only remotely fun with friends
>microtransactions
>small handful of mostly shitty maps with 3 game modes
>lots of characters, but most are completely one dimensional
>laser guns with no impact
>shit balancing
>turrets completely break the flow of a game when playing with randoms
>too much other shit to even list here
I don't know how anyone likes this shitty game, I preordered it for the early beta and was extremely disappointed.
>>338850908
Tf2 received updates for several years before they added microtransactions, but you might not have been born yet so I understand.
>>338851137
As opposed to overwatch which was designed with microtransactions in mind.
>>338851359
Yeah? Did I say that I approve of that?
>>338850848
They made it hard to exploit, they made it slightly easier for legit, especially with the VIP update. Can make easy money by dicking around with friends in between missions or something. End game Heist can also give like 300k
People are dying to bitch about something in this game, even the most menial of shit like loot boxes which contain cosmetic only items that you don't need and can fucking get for free.
I'm sorry this game didn't flop, but the lengths people are going to shit on something as harmless as this is ridiculous. Microtransactions in paid games is shit but that's the world we live in and it's unusual for any game to not have DLC or microtransactions.
>>338843749
>buy a bunch of boxes
>just get a bunch of duplicate common items and low amount of money
again, blizzard kikes will defend this
>>338851503
Where does it say I'm okay with anyone doing it? This is just standard practice. You can keep being retarded, tho. :3c
>cosmetics
Who gives a shit? Don't like em? Then don't buy them.
>cosmetic item shop
>bad
It's not needed at all you spergs. If someone wants to throw in $200 to get a spic version of Reaper, then go right ahead. It helps and motivates companies to keep developing for a game. The extra income is proof people still love the game and want to support it. That's why TF2 ended up getting so much shit after they released the ingame store which was more cancerous than Overwatch because it had game altering items.
>>338851624
Yeah in about 3-4 years probably
>b-but muh skins
90% of the orange skins are dogshit. Pinks and blues are legitimately the best most of the time outside of a few characters (McCree, Roadhog, Winston, andZarya's siberian skin)
Why bother spending any money for skins that suck dick when the recolors look alot better.
>>338840791
>caring about cosmetics in a game where you can't see your fucking character
faget
>Have to watch a shitty POTG before you can leave or you don't get EXP
Fucking why?
>>338851053
worst mercy skin t b h
>>338851626
>No where in that post does it mention Rockstar
Sorry for comparing it to another game that did the exact same thing.
>>338851832
>If someone wants to throw in $200 to get a spic version of Reaper
Or they could just as easily not because Gachapon systems are cancer in digital form.
At least with TF2's bullshit when you put money in the game you got what you actually wanted back in return.
>>338851832
>It helps and motivates companies to keep developing for a game.
I'd say it does a bit more than that. Unless you find a group of developers that don't need to get paid.
>>338851376
>the game had almost 4 years of microtransaction-less life
almost three years
and valve made great leaps forward in the usage of cash shops
mostly by using team fortress and all the players as lab rats
if they released it now they would never start off by selling it without any form of cosmetic monetization systems
blizzard is not releasing the game in 2007, they're doing it in 2016, when cash shops are everywhere, much thanks to valve
>>338851240
>Show the numbers
>While I post not showing numbers in my own post
>>338851380
>get duplicate sprays
>cry about a paywall because you can't get the epic skins for 50 coins
>can't melt down skins you don't want for coins
i am not using that fucking cybergoth skin ever blizzard, id rather have the coins
>>338852018
>implying people could get the stupid "rare mysterious odd" hats with a blue flame
The dumb ass hats on there went for a ridiculous amount in real currency. Don't say you can get "anything" from their store.
>>338852018
>At least with TF2's bullshit when you put money in the game you got what you actually wanted back in return.
that presupposes that there is actually something worth buying in the TF2 item store
>>338852018
>At least with TF2's bullshit when you put money in the game you got what you actually wanted back in return.
Unfortunately for TF2, that one item you specifically bought is a flat power increase over default items.
>>338840791
>content behind a paywall
Just because you make meme arrows doesn't mean it isn't correct.
>>338851991
But better ;^)
Don't even care to reply.
>>338851991
Yes, and I just said what Rockstar did was fucking scummy and is the reason I didn't buy GTA 5
>>338851956
>not watching POTG in hopes of finding the gems
>>338852018
>Spending $2.00 per key on loot crates
>actually getting what you wanted in return
That's a spicy meme
>PLAY OF THE GAME
Some weeb
>AS: SYMMETRA
>literally just her following an enemy D.Va around and eventually killing her mech, then her
>that's it
