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>Nerf her health by 50
>Make her deployable ult destroyable
>Make it take longer to freeze tanks
>Make her have to break through shields from Symmetra, Lucio etc before she can freeze
>Make her ice heal not invincible
>Make it so it can't contest
>Make it so it doesn't heal and just gives invuln
>Make icicle shot do 50 damage instead of 75
Any one of these would fix this fucking awful overpowered cunt.
She should not be able to contest points solo or devastate entire teams it's fucking bullshit
Fuck you Blizzard
>>338801684
Nerf Mei is just like Nerf Bastion or Nerf Torbjorn.
It is literally the calling card of the bad player. You are bad, and eventually you will stop being bad (or stop playing heroes hard-countered by Mei, if its a continuing problem), and your opinion will change
t. mercy main
my man even if you wanna legit call for nerfs you can't just nerf everything at once, like have some control
>>338801905
glad you mention mercy, because past the whining of mei bastion and the rest, mercy needs a nerf to her ult accumulation.
>>338801684
>Make her useless
That's all you really had to say, OP.
>>338801684
realistically she needs a nerf on long-range icicle damage
ok, so she's supposed to be strong against people who get too close and get frozen, fine. She doesn't also need to be a sniper.
>>338801684
ideally, one would neither nerf strong character nor buff weak characters; one should simply learn how to operate in any situation with who you roll.
>Junkrat, Reaper, and 76 shit all over her
>people still cry for nerfs
Calm down Somilo
>>338801684
only think she needs nerf is that ice block self healing. she already has powerful kit
>>338801905
>mercy main
>anime icon
Not surprised. Just wanted to let you know she is the most useless hero in the game. Even Symmetra has her place but not Mercy. Her healing is worse than Lucios, Her damage buff isnt as good as Zenyattas defense debuff
>>338801968
no read the post, he just wants at least 1 of those changes, not all of them.
>>338802191
They already nerfed the iceblock by making her unable to contest points while frozen
>>338802058
It sounds like you are also bad. As a Mercy main my favorite thing is when the whole enemy team focuses on my patients instead of me so I can build my ultimate very, very fast. That only happens if you are ignoring Mercy, and if you're doing that, you and/or your team is bad.
It's not hard to stop her from building ult, and it's also not hard to stop her from rezzing 3-4 people at once.
>>338802142
Long-range icicle kills are almost always incidental. This isn't a recurring problem. If you want to talk about short-range characters who are strong at long range, you should be talking about McCree.
>>338802210
Okay. I wasn't going to add anime to this post, but, if you insist m8
Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that, [-]
>>338801905
>stop playing heroes hard-countered by Mei
>stop playing 3/4 tanks
>>338802142
How much damage does it do? 200? It does as much as Widows charge shot which is ridiculous
>>338802058
>Ult in a team fight
>Start healing them all during the teamfight
>After this one fight im already 50%
Mercy is stupid strong, theres a reason "competitive" teams run her and three winstons, they are the true cancer.
>>338802058
>Mercy ult is unstoppable and accumulates % at staggering rates to the point where you could literally solo rez people and have it back in the time it would have taken them to run back.
Her ult needs a huge fucking nerf in terms of how fast she build charge. We're talking 300% nerf or some shit. Its hands down the most powerful ability in the game but it has zero counterplay beyond "just dive past her team and kill her"
>>338802263
Please post more cute anime girls lifting a finger.
>>338802263
the problem is that past the deaths she manages to get enough charge extremely quickly.
I wouldn't bitch if her ult animation actually mattered, however.
>>338802389
She doesn't need a nerf you just need to learn to prioritize killing the healer
>>338802469
>Just kill her
Love this meme.
>>338802282
Mei killing tanks usually takes a breddy long time. What I really meant by that was Genji. D.Va and Reinhardt have too much armor for Mei to be a mei-jor threat.
>>338802320
Even with that logic, you're still wrong. Do you want to talk about overpicked heroes in competitive? Again, you should be talking about McCree (and Lucio). These two heroes have over a 100% pickrate, ie, you can expect to see more than one per team per round.
>>338802408
Louise is a pig whore. She is not cute. Also, I'm limited in this department.
>>338802389
That isn't the counter-rez, play. That's the counter-Mercy play. If you don't kill Mercy and try to kill her teammates instead, you are literally the reason she is rezzing so much. This is a problem with you being bad.
>>338802453
Well, it DOES matter. Just, not enough. You can kill her within the first maybe quarter second of her ult and you will interrupt it, for what that's worth.
>>338802263
>and it's also not hard to stop her from rezzing 3-4 people at once.
You're right it's impossible. You can't interrupt it and there's no casting time. The second she presses q is the second they get up.
>>338801684
It is possible for genji to counter and reflect her ult. The iceblock healing her is important since she is on the low end of characters to heal immediately.
If you make her ult destructible why not make Dva's or Tracers? Why not cancel Widowmakers after she dies?
Mei is great but not the most OP character in the roster. Stop crying about it.
I could go into every point but I'm drunk and stopped caring.
>>338801684
>>Nerf her weight by 50
This.
Why the fuck fat nerd is in death tournament?
>>338801684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Mp5gE0HSw
>>338802259
No they didnt. I've lost 6 games today alone because an invincible frozen Mei contested a point and the entire enemy team made it back during that time. Literally an hour ago it happened.
>>338802582
>anime poster meme's hard about their waifu
>>338802389
Anon diving mercy literally works though.
>>338802210
>icon
>>338802469
>Just kill her
But this is sexist.
Also she is a woman so high chance gamer's also a woman, so you literally suggest to rape a real woman.
>>338801684
>Make her deployable ult destroyable
It already is, you just have to be fast. If you could destroy it while its just sitting there it would never, ever go off, it'd be easier to kill than an ulting Phara. Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about.
>>338801684
>mei is OP
t. scrubs who refuse to improve
>>338801905
this
>>338802710
This is fair. She's still physically on top of it and it is easy for the opposing team to pick on her.
I think the rate of healing may have been nerfed but I can't confirm that.
>>338802724
Start playing against better teams. You dive, they kill you while she floats to someone else. Shitters think its as simple as "just dive her!"
Even this is a footnote in how bullshit she is, doesn't matter if you kill her a dozen times, all it takes is her getting an ult off once and it swings the game.
>>338802210
r u dum or just stoopid
>>338802721
Did you mean Mercy or Louise?
Incidentally, I do have more Louise saved than Mercy.
>>338802628
The fuck are you talking about? Kill her stupid fragile ass. If you want to stop her from rezzing 3-4 teammates, that means 3-4 of her teammates are dead and she should be easy prey. If you can't stop her from zooming in and rezzing it - and if you aren't EXPECTING her to do exactly that - you are bad, and should spend less time shitposting and more time improving.
Please refer to >>338802724
>Zenyatta can turn invincible
>heal himself
>That's his ultimate
>Mei turns invincible
>heals herself
>That's not her ultimate
Nerf Roadhog
>hook combo is an instakill, pulls through walls, extremely easy to hit
>heals half of his health in less than 2 seconds with a cooldown of 8 seconds
easiest instakill combo next to mccree
>>338802582
wow how rude.
>>338802582
but thats my point, when its up theres no stopping it. ONLY other ultimates i can think of doing that is zenyatta and mei off the top of my head.
saying this isn't a problem is far from the truth.
>>338802823
I think you Mei be right about the rate of healing.
They've absolutely changed her freeze ray since open beta though; now it takes less time to freeze someone, but they thaw out quicker.
>>338802887
Zenyatta's lasts longer, heals allies, he can move.
I'd agree on lower health just because she has a self heal. If anything else I'd make it take longer for to freeze or shorten the distance of it.
>>338802835
>all it takes is her getting an ult off once and it swings the game
This could be said about many heroes
>>338802909
>pulls through walls
this is a tickrate issue
Same with widows headshots
You can at least have a fighting chance against Mei in close quarters.
You know who you can't win against in close quarters?
Mc-fucking-Cree.
No one gives a shit if Mei is OP or not. She's just not fun to play against.
Period.
FPS games do not need AoE multi-second stuns. Ever.
>>338802857
Oops, I forgot Louise.
>>338802887
Maybe you'd have a point, if Mei's freeze healed her teammates for 100/sec
Zenyatta is a cool mofo.
>>338802971
I don't think ti has been nerfed. To be honest, it was never that good to begin with. That said, I played ~10 hours of Mei in open beta and 0 games as her since Monday.
>>338802952It's not what it looks like
>>338802909
It can only work through walls if the opponent has shit internet. Even then it is super-rare. His hook goes waaaay farther than it used to. It used to be pointless but now it's useful. It's a skill shot and has a middle-length cooldown.
>>338802909
>Played Zarya tonight.
>Hooks me or team mate by me.
>insta-shield myself or ally.
>Full charged in no time.
It's pretty great.
>>338803062
Yeah this I used to think that everyone was balanced and people just bitched a lot but I never got to play against a """"good"""" McCree in beta.
>>338803062
flashbang really shouldn't stun with splash
Just make it blind video/audio for a second or two. Give some sort of resource to the hero hit by it.
knock her health down by 25
That's all I'd do.
OR
Make it so she has to physically power her ultimate with her gun, instead of it being a deployable.
So she cant just freeze the entire capture zone on control maps and single handedly kill the entire enemy team
I pull this off constantly and its bullshit
>>338803023
the only other ult that swings the game with no counterplay is literally meis ult. tracer maybe, but thats only if you realize the bomb too late.
>>338803067Then what is it?
>>338802971
The freeze length may have changed. I don't have any footage of my own but I think I used to be able to get off three icicles instead of two.
>>338803063
Yes, but it sounds like you have no issue with McCree or Reinhardt :^)
>>338803062
Comes down to whether or not you dodge a flashbang. Pretty aggravating imo, but then, playing Mercy as much as I do I expect to get killed by McCree a lot.
>>338803132
My favorite part of Zarya (and also Genji) is when you're attacked by someone who doesn't know when or how to stop pulling the trigger.
>>338803215Stop Louiseposting, you will get us both banned
>>338803023
Not nearly as much as hers. Every other ult that swings games has some sort of draw-back or an oppertunity to counter it.
High noon: you can kill him and he has to charge it, stop it with CC or LoS
Justi-aaaugggh: You can shoot her out of the sky, counter ult with any support, or LoS.
Reaper: CC, kill or literally use any support Ult.
Rat tire: You can kill it pretty easily and can hear it coming
Dragon: walk to the left.
Mercy ult is instant, and you cant kill her out of it, if she hits the button they are rezzed. Its the most broken ult in the game and anyone denying this is fucking delusional.
Although I don't like her design honestly my only gripe with her is that her ice wall has ridiculous range to set up. I don't recall it being like that in the beta
>>338803062
His fucking stun grenade shouldn't be an aoe. The fact he just hast to throw it around your feet is fucking stupid.
>>338803063
>No one gives a shit if Mei is OP or not. She's just not fun to play against.
>
>Period.
This. THIS.
Who cares if she's OP or UP. If there's a Mei on the enemy team I Instantly have less fun.
Every death feels cheap and "wow I'm a fucking retard". Not once do I feel "haha that Mei player is really good!"
I just get pissed at myself for being a retard, and Mei for being so fucking obnoxious and annoying to kill.
>>338803286Can't stop won't stop
>>338803179
If it didn't stun Tracers direct counters would drop to Torbj. I say direct counters because he does it easily whereas other characters can certainly do it but Tracer can easily make it difficult.
Just make Mcrees fan have a cooldown like Lucios right click, let it reset on rolls. Would actually mean he has to aim shots instead of just running and spamming shots at people all day.
>>338803195
Drop her HP by 50 and don't let her contest points in ice block. Done and done.
>>338803406
How do you expect to make a grenade not AoE? If it only worked on a direct hit it would be worthless.
IMO the only reasonable thing you could do to McCree is make him less effective at long range.
>>338803432
Well, it sounds like if you stop being retarded, Mei will stop killing you.
I don't get why you get mad when Mei kills you close-range. It's supposed to happen like that.
>>338803448
Lucioscum eh? Louise would be ashamed, despite the similarities between their names.
>>338803336
>High noon: you can kill him and he has to charge it, stop it with CC or LoS
>Justi-aaaugggh: You can shoot her out of the sky, counter ult with any support, or LoS.
I understand what you mean that you can't kill her while it happens but you simply have to kill her first. As someone who plays mercy I can tell you that nothing is more frustrating than seeing you teammates about to die, getting excited about a PoTG rez and then dying to a genji who was smart enough to know that once your team is dead you'll probably rez them.
>>338803336
>Mercy ult is instant, and you cant kill her out of it, if she hits the button they are rezzed. Its the most broken ult in the game and anyone denying this is fucking delusional.
She has to be fairly close to use it though. It's not like she can rez teammates capturing a point from the base. On top of that, it's as simple as shutting her down. She's easy to kill and you fuck the team over and stop her from building up her ult as long as you focus on her and not just leave her alone like a retard. Most matches I've played as Mercy where they left me alone, we won and I got to pop off 5+ rezzes. Matches where they gunned for me fucked us over and I got about 1 rez attempt.
>>338802809
>McRee above S76
Pros know nothing
>>338803624
He throws it at someone's feet missing them completely and stunning 3 people on the team.
That shit is ridiculous.
>>338803558
>Just make Mcrees fan have a cooldown like Lucios right click, let it reset on rolls. Would actually mean he has to aim shots instead of just running and spamming shots at people all day.
except that would fix literally nothing because no character can survive flashbang+fan
>>338803624
Nobody plays perfectly
"Just never die" Isn't an argument. Even the shittiest players on earth will get a kill at least once, even just by chance. You're just shitposting at this point.
>>338803624wow how'd you know?
>>338803676
My point being that all ults have counter play in just fucking kill the person with the ult.
>>338803286
>Yes, but it sounds like you have no issue with McCree or Reinhardt :^)
McCree is horse shit, but at least he doesn't slow an entire team on a whim and fuck up their mouse sensitivity before stunning for free head shots. You can also just hop over his ult Reinhardt's ult, but I'm sure a wanna-be pro like you knows that. Meanwhile Mei's will freeze anyone vertical to it as long as they're in LoS, so that foot you have hanging over the edge of a balcony gets you frozen and killed.
>>338802909
not only this, but Roadfags always think they're hot shit
say anything about nerfing roadhog and they'll throw a tantrum
>>338803712
>>338803676
You are aware that she can fly both to dead bodies and team-mates right? Its ridiculously easy to get to your team to rez as her. The argument of "Just kill her" isn't good enough. Play against a compotent team thats actually communicating and see how much more of a daunting task this is.
>>338803132
I'd fully charge Zarya if you know what I mean
>>338803406
Marston's stun grenade is fine. If he needs any changes, it's that his combat roll shouldn't reload his gun.
>Mei isn't overpowered!
t. Mei main
>>338801684
She's bad, stop being a shitter, work together with your team and/or shoot her from far away
>>338801684
If she was truly as unstoppable as you would have us believe, why aren't there teams of Mei x5 tearing games apart?
>>338803758
That's what he is supposed to do, he's a fucking duelist. The problem is that outside of his cooldowns he can still spam down people with 420 damage fans without flashbang or his roll. If they slapped a cooldown on his fan that was rather lengthy he would at the very least have to consider when to burst rather than just throwing it out there every time flashbang comes off cooldown.
>Mei deploys her ult
>fly up in to the air as DVA/Pharah
>freeze anyway despite being all the way at the top of the skybox
>get killed with a single headshot
Okay.
>>338803859
You are aware that most offensive characters can kill her before she gets to a dead body mid flight. I can't count how many times a widowmaker has shot me out of the air duckhunt style.
>>338801684
>bitching about Mei instead of one of the actually overpowered characters that need a nerf
SOMEBODY'S just BAD
>>338803775
Your Louises are not very cute. In my opinion, good fanart of Louise is few and far between.Most of the good stuff I have seen was on /d/. It was good in terms of portraying the character, but horribly lewd at best and disgusting at worst.
>>338803736
Have you seen pro McCrees? They are fucking insane. There's one in particular I strongly suspect actually cheats.
>>338803770
Well, I've been shitposting since my very first post in this thread. But that's beside the point. I'm not telling you to not die. I'm telling you that if Mei gets you in a corner close-range, she's gonna beat you. That's not because of you, that's because Mei is a very strong close range fighter. I don't get why you are getting mad when this happens. I don't get angry when McCree or Mei or an ulting Genji kill my stupid ass close-range.
>>338803961
>he's a fucking duelist.
duelist implies that some kind of battle is taking place. Not instantly killing anyone that is within 30 feet of him because he can throw a flashbang in their general direction.
>>338804007
I dunno genius maybe don't fly out into the open next time.
>play zarya
>mei is now completely worthless
thats a hot tip for you guys
>looking for balance in a blizzard game
LMFAO
>>338804086
>She can rez anywhere anytime
>She can't survive out in the open
wew
>>338804071
He excels at 1v1. That is his purpose. You outrange him he's done. I won't argue that his flashbang combo isn't fun to deal with, but that's literally what he is designed to do.
>>338804027I hope you don't mean giving her a dick by good fanart. Or something worse!
>Mei's Ice Block now only heals 50
there fixed
>i cant counter this fat chinese white girl so i need to whine to the company instead of gitting gud
The most OP hero is the matchmaking that finds you 5 retards to babysit.
>>338804176
>You outrange him he's done
no if you outrange reaper he's done. McCree is a completely broken close range character while still being an average mid to long range character. That's why every team brings two of them at high levels.
>>338802809
overwatch """"pros"""" lmao
>>338803062
At least when Mcree runs around a corner, I die instantly.
For most characters if a Mei walks around a corner, you're already dead, but it's still going to take another 5-6 seconds.
The problem with her isn't whether she's overpowered or not, it's that she isn't fun. She isn't fun to play against, and she's definitely not fun to have on your team. Ally Mei walls are almost never helpful.
>>338802282
>Losing a 1v1 against Mei as a tank
Reinhart charge oneshots
Hook + shot kills her
Zarya outlasts and outdamages her
Winston outlasts her
Dva outlasts and outdamages her
Her freeze icicle combo literally does nothing to tanks. If you're at full HP it takes 3 or 4 headshot icicles to even kill a tank and they take so long to wind up.
Unless you get caught by Mei at low HP or you got stuck in her ult, you literally shouldn't lose to her in a 1v1.
>on defense in Egypt
>doing a good job holding the last objective
>feels like an eternity (my team was holding for around 10 mins)
>last 10 seconds
>a D.Va uses her ult and kills us all at the point
>suddenly enemy team rushes in and they won at the last second
One mistake was it all it took.
>>338804027
Post a pro mcree video
I'm not convinced that one trick pony is better than a real american hero
>>338804261
They take him because choke-point/close-quarters watch allows him to pump out damage faster than any other character. His long range is fine, his fan is the problem. Every pro game revolves around them getting people close enough to fan down repeatedly.
>Hes completely broken at close range
This the fucking nerf on Fans cooldown to a point where he cant just lean on it to win every single close range encounter. You realize the majority of top level play Mcree kills are just raw fans right?
>>338804176
You just described Reaper not McRee.
>>338804180
Well, mostly what I consider good art involves a face that actually looks like Louise.
The rest of the art is bad, at least on /d/. Really, really bad. But that was a qt Louise, I'll add that to my collection. Thanks friend.
>>338804086
See, this is what I mean. You should know when Mercy is going to try and rez. If she's not already on top of her teammate's corpses, she's got to run there or fly there. Either way, you should have no trouble stopping her.
>>338804317
I can try and find a good one showing you what I mean. Most competitive videos are just long match videos.
>>338804129
>She can rez anywhere anytime
>She can't survive out in the open
>She doesn't need to survive she just popped ulti and won the game
this is basically how you play mercy
>>338801905
I'm not one of the people crying abut nerfing everything but torbjorn turret is crazy.it's instant lock on targets make killing it without bait impossible. It should take some time to lock on like the tf2 turrets.
>>338802809
>Lucio
I'm amused how everyone thinks Lucio is fine, and also uses Lucio
>>338804182
i like this
>it's a Blizzard thinks stuns in an FPS are fun episode
lol
there is a reason why the Sandman doesn't stun anymore, it's because nobody wants to play a game where they watch themselves die helplessly over and over because of stuns
>>338803336
Tracer and Mei ults are also bullshit for the same reason. Tracers is a "You die" button with no counter play, because you sure as hell aren't going to stop her from closing the distance to you.
Meis ult also comes out instantly and can't be stopped. It also has the same problem as her M1 in that if you get so much as brushed by it, you're done unless you have a movement ability.
what is it about this game that brings out the know-it-all in players? How useful a character can be is consequential to team composition and the map. There's not one single answer as to how to deal with a character. Mei is shitty sometimes and fucking overpowered other times. Telling someone to get good is just admitting that you have no real advice because there is no real advice for every scenario you could face
>>338804467
Blame Tracer, every single annoying mechanic can be traced back to her. Rewind and blink are retarded mechanics to put on one character.
>>338803062
McCree is the most one dimensional character. Literally all he has to him is stun and dump. Its fucking not even fun to play as. I can understand why its desired in """"competitive"""" though because its a guaranteed kill.
>>338804518
>Meis ult also comes out instantly
Wrong.
Ive parried it as Genji before and fucked her team up.
>>338804525
This.
All these "Just kill her" comments are completely devoid of any thought process and just shitposting
>>338803124
>skill shot
It really isn't, it's some weird hitscan variation. As long as the crosshair is on the person when you throw the hook, it'll hit.
I'm wrecking shit with symmetra.
When the characters were first revealed she looked the most interesting to me. Then I heard all the stuff about her being shit and got pretty disheartened.
She is pretty weak but goddamn if you place her turrents right people dam near ignore them and end up getting btfo by them.
Also the teleporter is helpful as shit. Her armor buff is kind of ass, and her secondary fire on her gun is way too fucking slow but I've done the best with her out of everyone I've played so far
Her main fire damage isn't that bad though but it sucks you have to pretty much be kissing their nose to hit them
I'm glad I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would after hearing all the negative shit about her
>>338804518
Tracer ult takes a decent amount of doing/retardation to get decent results.
Mei ult is certainly annoying but Zarya, support ults and anyone with decent mobility can get out of it.
>>338804451
You know.I think all of your Louise's are very cute and I'm saving them all.
>>338804618
say no more
>>338804518
>Tracers is a "You die" button with no counter play
except there are multiple ways to counter it and make the ability worthless. Flashbang is a "You die" button with no counterplay because not even the tankiest characters can stop it and you cant use any defensive abilities
Tracers bomb wont even kill a fullhealth roadhog or reinhardt
>>338804518
I don't like mei's ult but a lot of heroes can get out of it before they freeze. I'm not going to bother listing them though.
>>338801684
Mei is fucking shit.
>oh no a hitscan character
>dies
>oh no a tank
>dies
>this shitty ass alt fire
>maybe i should use my shitty ass ice wall to impede the team and block heal beams
meis are always fucking garbage. its even funnier when they try to block the payload with her icewall and keeps moving.
>>338804596
no that's valid for chars who aren't just gimpy useless snipers outside of point blank range
if you think mei is even a little good you don't understand angles or engage ranges
>>338804315
It's annoying as shit when this happens
It should take way more time to cap a point, in return give attackers a larger time limit to cap it
>>338804618
Her teleporter helps more than people think, especially for slow ass characters, and I think her turrets could use a slight buff.
Still I think she is a bit more hated on than she deserves. She can be really useful if someone uses her right
>>338804467
I wouldn't mind if Torb's turrets had a small lock on/rotate penalty like Sentries do in TF2. The thing is, a level 2 Torb turret is way, way, way weaker than a level 2 Sentry Gun (to say nothing of level 3). Tbh I feel like Torb turrets are a nuisance at worst unless he's in Molten Core. They are easy to deal with.
Putting them on moving platforms, however, is absurd. That's some silliness right there.
>>338804596
But when it comes to Mercy this is LITERALLY the case. Lucio too, even Zenyatta. They are supports. You have to kill them.
Especially Mercy. If you don't kill her, it will take tremendous pressure to bring down her teammates without just giving Mercy a bunch of ultimate for free.
>>338804653
I pull lots of them directly from the show, so there's a high retention of her perfection. I also have some non-Louises (attached is a semi-Louise) for the occasional shitpost, also pulled from the show.
>>338804782
I wish Symmetra was a little stronger. For first point defending she's incredible, but she feels like a worse Torb in almost every other situation.
>>338802809
How can you fully trust a "Pro Scene" opinion when the only players were those involved in the beta?
That's not enough game-play to establish a true competitive meta.
Bastion's super-low TTK and exaggerated vulnerability to counters make him no fun for anybody.
He counters everyone but his own counters, which ruin him.
That kind of polarizing Rock Paper Scisors bullshit has no place in any sort of FPS game, even if switching to Scisors from Rock is easy.
Anyone that says Bastion is fine the way he is can fuck right off for riding e-sports dick.
McCree in his current state can also die in a fire.
>>338804274
That actually made me xD
Most casual fps i've seen. Overkiddies don't realize watered down it is. Blizzard knows how to make a successful game and it ain't by targeting people who like a challenge.
>take Mei out of the game
>problem solved
sending blizzard my resume as i type this
all i want is the fucking invulnerability heal to go away. its not fucking fair she can walk her fat ass on an objective and be unmovable for 5 seconds.
>>338804315
>>338804731
All capture point maps are designed terribly. Point A is always a huge choke-point but the attackers get the advantage of respawns. Point B is always 3 choke-points but the defenders spawn on top of it.
A middle neutral spawn point and more match time would solve so many problems with cap point maps it wouldn't even be funny.
>>338804315
Playing reinhart on that one tower map
>d.va ult into our team
>charge and take her and her nuke with her
>team wins the game off of it
>still no potg
I felt like a hero, that game made me realize that I should have some recording software since then highlights don't get them all.
Nerf nothing, buff Pharah just a bit.
>>338804782
>>338804618
Her primary fire not being bullets is kinda fucked up. You shouldn't have to be in someones face as a fucking support, unless you're mercy and you're in your teammates face..to heal them.
>>338804518
D.Va's shield used to absorb Tracer's ult. Not sure if it does anymore.
>>338804848
It's worth noting that 1/4th of them were also caught cheating
>>338804836I never save any pic that isn't 100 percent just her.
Sorry, I'm afraid I cannot keep that image
>>338802809
>reddit goes for the nigger
pottery
>>338804518
Zarya shield completely stops slow down
Its almost sad how much it trivializes Mei
Fuck nerfs, who desperately needs buffs?
D.va
Symmetra
Genji
Anyone else?
>>338801684
>pls nerf Mei because I am shit
>>338801905
I agree Mei is not the problem so much the lack of effort to shut her down. Every time I see her dominating in games it's because the opposition is too fucking stupid to group so they get picked EZ.
>>338801684
Is this some kind of meme? Not only does she NOT need nerfs, she's one of the three worst characters in the game.
What's with all the Mei whining? McCree is objectively the most powerful character in the game, and it's not even close.
>>338805127
h-hanzo...r-right?
>>338805048
Okay, that sounds like a personal problem. More Louise for me, I guess.
>Louise's face when you imply that any hairstyle is superior to long, pink, and glorious
>>338805145
That's not even a Mei problem. Lucio, Windowlicker, Mercy, Tracer, Torb... what you said, I see with all these heroes. Even my friends do it.
>>338805127
holy shit dude no, make your own thread
>>338805127
a good chunk of the defense classes outside of widowmaker. bastion could use a tweak too.
>>338805127
D'va needs a smaller headshot hitbox, that's it.
Symettra needs a new shield ability cause 25 is fucking garbage.
Genji is fucking fine, get better.
Zenyatta needs more HP, but less discord damage boost.
>>338804946
>give pharahs jetpack a bit less fuel but a bit more acceleration and speed
there, just turned a 7/10 into a 9.5/10 and she's still balanced
>>338805145
that's the nature of a character that's impossible to fuck up
she also has 0 skill ceiling other than getting generally better at the game and any time you spend playing her is wasted
>>338801905
>t. mercy main
Jesus that's gotta get boring. It just has to eventually..don't deny it
The only thing I really give a shit about with Mei is her ice wall. Make that shit significantly easier to break. That is an ability that should reward clever play, not something you just poop out wherever because it's essentially invulnerable
>>338804535
She's fragile as fuck and gets shredded if you can aim. Rewind has a long cooldown and doesn't go very far so you can just chase her down
>>338805161
This is reminding me of that one dark souls image
>mei is Overpowered please nerf
>you think mei is overpowered mcree is the true cancer
>any idiot can deal with mcree bastion is where the problem is at
>>338805260
Yeah, just needs a way to quickly get out of sticky situations, or slightly higher HP.
>>338805127
the fuck is the point of D.va? her hits do shit damage unless you are up close but she dies easily despite having a lot of health
>>338805319
Well, two of my best friends are very good at Pharah.
When I'm solo queueing, yeah, you better believe its boring. I usually play Tracer or Zenyatta instead.
>>338805246
I said this in open beta and I'll say it again here.
Symmetra's ability should give 25 shields, and convert 50% of the hero's non-shield health into shields. So someone with 200 HP becomes 100 HP and 125 shields.
People will tank the same damage as they already do, but in the long run people who get away from the fight will have a much bigger amount of regenerating health, which will actually make Symmetra somewhat of a healer.
>>338805225I would never imply that her long, pretty, pink and glorious hair is superior to her long, pretty, pink and glorious hair
>blizzard
>favors a blizzard character
what's the problem
>>338805348
Of all the things about mei you complain about the icewall? It's a breather for both teasm no matter where it's used.
>>338805370
Play against better Tracers. Also your statement doesn't refute the counters that blizzard implemented being annoying to deal with.
Torbjs turret is auto-lock and shoot because of her.
Mcree stun-fan combo is built to stop her(any everyone)
Mei freeze/slow is built to kill her
>>338805127
Dva is easily the worst character in the game so she could use it.
>awful ult that accomplishes nothing
>awful damage
>awful tanking
>have to stop moving just to fire rubber bullets that do nothing
her only "perk" i guess is that she can be hard to kill for good
>Favorite character is Mei
>mfw all this butthurt over her
>>338804291
>Freeze tank
>headshot it until it unfreezes
>Freeze again or heal up with bullshit iceblock thing.
>Enemy either waits for you or runs away
>Either way you win.
or
>losing
>run a bit because with the slow they'll never catch up
>Ice wall
I'm a Dva/Genji. I only harrass Mei, killing them is not worth my time. I only kill them if I'm flanking them.
>>338805235
I'm sorry. I misheard. Did you just perhaps imply bastion, of all fucking people, needs a buff?
>>338805471
That would make her busted as all shit. You either burst them or you literally can't kill them. She'd be auto-include on every single team regardless of any map or objective.
>>338801684
HAHAHA!!
Not even a week ago Mei was "low tier" and Meifags were getting the rib for loving their waifu...
... now she needs nerfed.
Fucking PvPers. This shit writes itself.
>>338804525
>overpowered
Try a different word. Like strong. Characters have strengths. A character is only overpowered only works when their strengths trump everyone else's strengths.
She gets beat by any tank (or anyone with over 250 hp). She gets beat by anyone that can outrange her or keep her away. She gets beat by anyone with good burst damage/can kill her before she freezes them. She gets beat by people who can avoid standing in the M1 for too long (anyone with a movement option).
If your character is getting hard countered by her, either avoid her or switch your damn character.
It's super annoying to hear people complain about a character being good and that they dare have to switch their playstyle in order to deal with a character. Fucking play against her and you can beat her.
>>338805472
Gosh, that is one cute Louise. Makes me feel guilty for how many lewds I have.
What do you think of Louise's sister? I don't like her very much.
>>338805496
My only complaint (compl-mei-nt?) is when teammate Meis use Ice Wall at a completely inappropriate time and save enemy lives.
>>338805529
I used to play a LOT of Mei. I could feel the anger in my enemies as I jammed their heads full of ice. My friend started playing Mei today (a week ago he spent an hour raging at me because he hated Mei so bad), and immediately felt the same way.
>>338805435
to be annoying I guess? I have never ever run into one that gave me trouble. Even as much weaker characters.
Just nerf her ice block heal that way shes less of a 1v1 beast but still fine with a team
>>338805582
Fuck, dude, he definitely doesn't need a buff. He's pretty much fine as he is.
His non-turret mode kind of sucks, and turret mode works if positioned well while easily countered by Genji, Pharah, or Reaper.
>>338802184
junkrat shits on a lot of them, but Tracer, samus bitch and cowboy bitch shit on him
>>338805525
d.va's perk is that she's more combat effective while outside her mech. nigga's never expect to die after they pop the little korean girl out her her mech.
>>338805592
>You either burst them or you literally can't kill them
So, the same thing that happens when Mercys on the team?
>>338805435
she's a character for teamplay
she does too much damage to be ignored in close and defensive matrix can make picks like bastion/torb/widow/hanzo useless on defense while her team quickly closes a gap
don't bother picking her for pubs, everyone will just focus you while your team runs in circles and you'll never get anything done
>>338805481
made me chuckle
I just got the game pretty much.
Do gametypes happen at random?
I literally have played like 20 matches and only 1 was payload or whatever.
>>338805764
Except mercy has to actually be around trying to heal them. Same with Lucio. She'd be the best support bar none in terms of keeping people going with minimal investment on her part. Now couple this with a Mercy or Lucio and the fact that you can heal shields. It'd be even worse to deal with because you have a team of people who are being healed at all times across the entire map.
This game fucking good or "fun"/ worth a buy??
>I pre-ordered brink way back and since then never went back to the TF genre.
>>338805516
>Play against better Tracers
Literally just aim better. You can 2 hit her with most characters in the game and instantly kill her with a few. She's dead within a fraction of a second in Bastion or 76's rifle fire, dying so fast they probably won't be able to react to Rewind.
>>338805645I don't like anything that isn't Louise. I especially dislike that fat princess
>>338805886
FUN ISN'T FUN YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>338801684
Yes she should. And she normally wouldn't if you didn't suck ass at video games.
You are bad.
I was honestly pretty salty about all the OW threads on /v/, because they had zero content thay wasn't shitposting and I just wanted to talk about the game, but now that they've evolved into babies crying about how much they suck, it's pretty great.
>>338805902
I'll say it again because you're not getting it. Play against better Tracers.
>>338801684
Doesn't she have zero ranged capabilities you whiney cunts?
>>338805246
>Genji is fucking fine, get better.
He is literally the weakest offense character in the entire game he is no way near fine.
I will keep posting this until you faggots fuck off
>>338805904
But just look! It runs in the family!
At any rate, you should expand your horizons. After all...Louise belongs to me
>>338805886
As a bitter, jaded TF2 fag who hates what TF2 has become, I like Overwatch a lot. Give it a spin m8.
>>338806009
Sounds like you're bad at Genji. He's gr8 m8
>>338801905
>mercy main
>it's an animeposting beta faggot
I'm shocked I tell you
>>338805991
>75 damage icicles with fuckhuge hitboxes in a 20 tick game
She's got that too.
>>338806009
genji is high skill friend ;)
maybe try someone easier since this is your first fps game?
>>338805087
Stop trying to fit in reddit, fuck off.
>>338805985
I'll say it again because you're not getting it. Stop sucking mountains of cock at the game.
>>338802809
>Reddit thinks Bastion is OP
Can't make this up
>>338806009
Way to out yourself as being shit. Genji is great.
>>338805991
I've entered a few games where people are pretty much using Mei as a sniper so no mate
>>338805902
>bastion
everybody is dead in two bastion shots, cause bliz can't balance for shit
>>338805886
You won't like it for the first few matches but then you'll realize you played 30 matches.
>>338801905
>tfw I've taken a liking to mei and roadhog
FUCK
>>338806084
/v/ does too so /v/ must be literally reddit
>>338806075
Not once did I say she was overpowered projecting image poster. Just that she's the reason for all the annoying mechanics in the game.
But please, continue to waggle your dick around on the internet with arguments that don't apply.
>>338801684
>all those nerfs
Holy fuck she'd be shit
>>338806118
Maybe use one of the million fucking counters?
>>338806009
>literally blocks projectiles
>weakest offensive character in the entire game
That's not how it works
>>338806037No, I want my Louise. Nothing else can come close to her.Then why do I have her in my pc?
>>338805565
You only get one icicle shot for a freeze. I don't understand how you get frozen twice in one encounter with her because you have more HP outright then her + her freeze heal gives her.
>Dva
Get in her face and shoot her. She won't outlive you and she won't out damage you.
>Genji
Dash through her and strafe around her to be hard to catch
If she cyrofreezes back up and snipe her with shurikens
If she ever cyro freezes just back off
>>338805127
Zarya. Definitely.
>>338806183
You didn't outright state she was overpowered but you were blatantly implying it.
I'm not the kinda guy to yell nerf but man it's incredibly annoying he that she can solo Reinhardt
>>338806330
Never once implied. Get some reading comprehension or stop swatting at invisible demons.
>>338806324
The only thing I would change about Zarya is how slow her ult charges, but it's so good I can understand it.
>>338801905
What exactly is a counter to mie?
Because I went up against a team of mei spamming freezing and walls and couldn't get within 20 feet without being frozen within a second or two from 3 mei shooting you at once.
I am not good but I'm certainly not terrible enough that I should be completely shut out. I seriously can't think of a single character that is a hard counter to a mei on defense.
>>338806009
Are you actually serious.
I've wiped the entire enemy team alone as genji, he is an absolute pub stomper. He was even worse before his shuriken nerf.
>>338806230
Because you're a thief? Beats me.I have lots of her in that Bustier, but, most of it I cannot post without being banned
I attached the wrong Louise to my last post. Forgive me.
>>338806324
Zarya is fine m8. Hard to use effectively. Once you get a good Zarya on your team, and I mean a truly good Zarya, you'll see what I mean.
>>338806408
Pharah, Windowlicker, Hanzo, Roadhog, D.va, Tracer (if she's good), Bastion
Sure, most of these will lose to Mei close-range... but that's the point. If you expect Mei to be hard-countered by close range fighters, you've got another thing coming - only Roadhog and D.va are beefy enough to do that.
>>338806394
>Tracer isn't overpowered she dies easy to most characters in the game
>PLAY BETTER TRACERS
>no, it isn't a case of playing more skilled Tracers, she's still not overpowered
>PLAY BETTER TRACERS RETARD
>>338801905
Bastion's gatling gun needs to be nerfed. It does far too much damage too fast. I can sit completely safe and see a 3 pixel wide opening where people might walk by and kill anyone with less than 300hp in the half a second they're walking by that spot
I can play D.va just fine.
Shes not a take damage or defend the team kind of tank.
You gotta fly around, flank, amd get people in 1 on 1.
Crash into people, punch, then shoot.
You're welcome.
>>338806408
shields give mei problems. stops freezing and she does no damage to get rid of it.
>>338802547
>too fuckign stupid to do the basics
Don't know why it's so hard. kill the healer, always fucking kill the healer. The HEALER prevents you from killing others because they are HEALING.
Why are yo go for the bad dps first instead of the healer who keeps everyone alive? It was the same way back in TF2, spys were made to keep healers and engineers in check since they could get through to the back lines.
>>338806324
Yeaah, buff that shitty haircut right?
Mei is complete garbage but her iceblock needs to stop being a point capture. It's the stupidest shit in the game.
>99% into overtime with .1 seconds left into point cap for win
>hurr iceblock to contest :^)
>>338806514
Hmm, maybe I am. After all I keep taking away your rare Louise pics and adding them to my collection.Thanks oniipham.
>>338806590
>hate the normal pink haircut
>the legendary goth skins are somehow worse
fucking Blizzard
>>338806365
Literally anyone can solo Reinhardt if they can keep him out and dodge his charge.
Sounds like you just don't like getting countered.
>>338805471
>Zarya can now regen three-quarters of her health
>Fucking Roadhog
"No"
>>338806525
This. It should be a suppressing fire deal, not an instakill.
Alone, Bastion's not even that much of an issue. It's when his team decides to play PROTECT THE PRESIDENT that he's an issue.
>>338806297
As I said, if the mei is smart, she will run away if im fighting her as dva, and i'd rather kill more important objectives
And for Genji
>Dash through her and strafe around her to be hard to catch
>snipe her with shurikens
If she's bad sure, but if not, she's not worth the damage I'll be recieving, I'd rather leave the Mei to a Zyra, Mcree, Hanzo, Phara, or even a Widowmaker.
She shouldn't be as tanky as she is. And Cryo shouldn't heal or at least not the amount it heals.
Fucking South America
>>338802703
>baddies gets pissed and won't switch to a counter character
Entire point is to adapt to your enemy if having trouble, not sick through on 1 character.... what an idiot.
>>338806706
Those are home-made Louises. They will always be mine, just as Louise herself is.
But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.M-maybe I could be your Louise tonight?
>>338806807
>If the Mei is smart, she will run away
If you recognize that this is what you're supposed to do, why do you struggle so much to do it?
>>338806542
D.Va is fucking garbage and is worse than any other tank in the game. She's if like a shitty roadhog and a shitty reinhart had a child
>>338806807
It really sounds like you're bothered simply because you can't kill her with the characters you like to play.
That's not a reason to call for a nerf especially when you listed a bunch of characters who can easily deal with her.
>>338806937Not only do you want Louise to yourself, you also want to actually be her?? My word, what in the world is wrong with you?
>>338803859
This sounds like some of the arguements I've heard in the part for nerfing the medic in tf2. Mercy is fine. Git Gud.
>>338801684
Aren't your bros missing you on Halo?
>>338806632
fucking this. this is absurd that she can do this shit. its totally viable just to switch to mei in an overtime situation and just sit on the point.
PSA: STOP SHOOTING ZARYA'S BUBBLE SHIELDS!
Just like with Genji, have some restraint and stop shooting.
>>338806938
No, you just suck.
>>338806938
D.Va is a harasser. Learn to play her right and enjoy that infinite life because muh "summon meka" every time you should be dead.
>>338807029
I thought after the /d/ remark this would stop coming as a shock to you. You want to talk about messed-up Louising, you go there.
Just thinking about some of that stuff is making me shiver.
Well it's been fun fellow Louisefriend, I must continue studying now so I can play more overwatch. I've been Louiseposting for far too long I'm afraid. I'll leave you with my favorite Louise, I think it's cute (and also a fair summary of season 1)
>>338807206
Yeah, this is also true of Winston and Tracer. So what?dont respond cuz im leaving
>>338803062
>Genji slash up to him
>Pop that deflect
>Baddies will fan themselves to death
>Good players will drop their stun, resulting in them getting stunned
If the former, free kills, if the latter, kite that nigga to hell.
>>338807294
It seems like a fair summary of all of it 2bf.
Farewell my Louisefriend. I hope to see you again some day.
>Meis frosty frost doesn't lower turn speed
Seriously who thought this was a good idea, why have an ability that stopped a player from aiming?
>>338807206
>>338806632
Can't Reaper and Zenyatta do the same? Can't Zarya/Winston just shield at the last second? Can't Genji just deflect all projectiles at the last second to contend? Can't Tracer blink in to start OT and rewind out?
>>338807250
>>338807248
she's legitimately bad though, anyone with explosives can kill her before she even has a chance to get near you.
>you suck
not an argument, I have never seen a D.va do a job that a winston, reinhart or roadhog can do better
>>338806708
>Not liking Arctic Zarya.
>>338807294
winston and tracer have COUNTER PLAY and can be killed off the point, its just difficult.
this is a fundamental thing to shooters, and why Mei is so fucking infuriating. she is an awful garbage character for everyone involved.
>>338807294
Also don't call her a pig whore.
It's very rude.
>>338807437
Genjis block only works for projectiles, Winston, Zarya have to physically fight, reaper dies before he can even get in there, Tracer's rewind resets OT, Zenyatta has to ult
btfo
The reason shit like Mei, McCree, and Bastion will forever ruin pubs, is because the fucking retards you play with will never switch. They all want to play whatever the fuck they want, and only that. Fuck their team wants, fuck what the enemy team picks. Which is why once a Bastion/Reinhardt/Mercy sets up shop in a casual game, it's over. Or if a really good Widow or McCree is on a team, the game is decided then and there.
Also
>Your team
>Gets fucked countered
>Never ever switches
>Their team
>Switches at the drop of a hat to shut any strategy before it even starts
This is every fucking game.
Eliminations are such shit. They're glorified assists.
>>338806009
I think Genji's reload speed on his shuriken's should be buffed. That's it though.
>>338807403
>>338807582
You will. Just look for your images that I've saved :^)
As for the pig whore remark, I didn't actually call her that. A true Louise lover would have known the secret code. I guess you fail to meet those specifications?
ok now im actually leaving
>>338807560
So can Mei, once her ice wall wears off. What's your point? Winston and Tracer can hop/blink on and off repeatedly (with Winston dropping a shield) and extend Overtime even longer than Mei can.
>>338807727
No wait, tell me.
Come back!
Hard counters are really stupid.
>love Zarya's playstyle
>can be most irritating son of a bitch on the entire team to the enemy
>but hate her stupid hair
I just wish I could change its colour. And her nails. I don't like her winter costume all that much because it hides too much of her.
>>338807727
ok, mei just ran on to the objective and turned herself into ice. lets go over what can be done to rectify this situation:
>absolutely fucking nothing
this is only once aspect of why mei is a fundamentally shit character,
>>338807798
Please, stop dragging me back. I really have to study.
I'll enter the code again. If you can't see the real message, you need to meditate on proper Louises. Improve yourself - I've included a complimentary Henrietta (laughing at you) to get you started on the long road toward improvement. Pig whore
>>338807928
In a game with 21 heroes, that's kind of to be expected, isn't it?
Hard counters keep it fresh and give you options to respond to challenging situations. What's not to love
>>338807970
Yeah but then you kill her right after. If she lives long enough to ice block a second time, and your whole team couldn't stop her from doing this IN OVERTIME, your whole team is really, really bad.
Tracer and Winston will stall for much longer than a lone ice block.
>>338806525
that and /or he needs a longer transformation time and a slower turn rate when in turret mode.
had a game last night where I tried to ambush a bastion only for him to transform, 180, and blast me away all within one fucking second.
>>338807219
why tho :)
>>338806525
run up to bastion facing him with genji and hold e. you'll be happy it does so much damage
>>338807653
>Genjis block only works for projectiles
Still enough time to start OT if you have to walk up to melee range
>Winston, Zarya have to physically fight
What? No. They only have to be in/at the objective and are effectively invulnerable for more than "0.1" seconds to trigger overtime
>reaper dies before he can even get in there,
Reaper has better mobility and at the same amount of HP. He can even ghost walk into the point so you can't even stop him from reaching it.
>Tracer's rewind resets OT
Source. No where I read says this happens. And if so, she can just blink in and then out.
>Zenyatta has to ult
So he can still do it the same thing? Cool.
>Calling btfo on your own posts
That's not how it works.
>>338807984
StudyingFormed school?
>>338807219
Does it break faster if you shoot it or is it just invuln?
Mei is designed to be anti fun.
>>338808141
by your logic, iceblock stalls are balanced because every hero can walk into the zone
once again
BTFO
>shield yourself
>shelf teammate
>pull everyone in together
>tether gun
>3 star difficulty
The fuck?
>>338808148
H-how did you do that
I already used the appropriate Semi-Louise for this situation.
Now I have to stay. What the fuck m8
>>338808210
It absorbs fixed HP so it will break quickly if you apply pressure. But, it lasts a very short time so its usually better to just stop firing so you don't give Zarya more damage.
That said, if you're in such a dominating position that the extra damage won't matter, go for it. Note that it can be pierced by shield-piercing abilities like Winston's primary
>>338808051
ONE MORE TIME the point is that it has no counter play. having no counter play means unhappy players, because things happening to you that are out of your control ARE FUCKING TERRIBLE. which is why mei is a terrible character.
>>338808403
I can't be telling you my secrets for all of /v/ to see now can I, my dearest Louisefriend.
t. pro 4Channer
>>338808391
Did you know those shields only last 1.5 seconds and have 11 seconds of cooldown
>>338808464
What the fuck are you going on about? Okay fine, it has no counterplay. She also accomplishes nothing but a little bit of overtime stall, less than Tracer or Winston could do.
>>338808487
No, you gotta spill the beans. That was too good of a guess. Are you an elf?Only an elf could be so in-touch with my crippling depression, elven scum
>>338808341
No. I'm talking about heroes who are already there and they can stall like, Zarya, Winston, Zenyya, Reaper, and Genji and other characters that can easily force OT like Mei can with no way of being stopped assuming their in the right position.
So yeah, nice try.
It's really beginning to sound like you just don't want to get better or even have a discussion at this point.
>>338808391
I think people are still bamboozled at how her masochist gun works.
>>338808608
Ok maybe I will, but only if you give me the best hug of my life!
>>338808629
considering you equate a 10 second cd to an ultimate, It's pretty clear there is no discussion to be made with someone who has never even played Mei
>>338808464
Two questions.
What the fuck is "counter play"? You keep saying it.
How are you counter playing a blinking Tracer and a leaping ulted Winston out of the control point?
NERF EVERYBODY TO 1 HELATH
NERF ALL GUNS TO 1 BULLET WITH 40 SECOND RELOAD TIME
NERF ALL ABILITIES TO 5 MINS
MAKE ALL ABILITIES LAST .0001 SECONDS
YOU LOSE ULT BUILD UP IF YOU DIE
Fix your game blizz
>>338808608
>>338808745
>people who are probably fat IRL
>zaryas shield me before I go into combat
>zaryas shield me when no one is shooting at me, so now everyone sees me instantly and targets me
>zaryas shield me when I'm walking to the point because shielding helps team moral
>zarya shields me after the fight
How hard is it to play zarya, you litterally just watch your team mates and fucking shield them when the enemy team looks at them. Or just shield them when they're ulting.
Having two Lucio is fucking gamebreaking, it's impossible to kill that shit.
>>338807495
If I had nickel for every time I had carried the slack of a Road hog or Winston as D.VA, I could retire. Winston seems to only do his job as disruption when and only when he gets his ult, where as dva, I can come from much more unexpected places and so more damage behind lines, and road hogs will forget that they are need to stay near the payload or point and go hide to fish for kills to break up the group when that's my job and then I end up having to hold of the rest of the other 3 to 5 enemies while he's struggling with the one he's caught
>>338808745
Please. You are giving me a heart attack with that Louise. I can't hug you if I die of cardiac arrest, can I?
I am home-making a response Louise as I type this. Please wait.
>>338808801
I could probably stand to lose a few pounds, desu. But, I'm not unhealthy. Playing Overwatch all day isn't helping, as of late.
>>338808883
You ever play 6v6 Lucios? That was a real blast. 9 minute Overtime.
>>338808753
Stop backpedaling. The cooldown was not the reason the other person (or you) complained. They only said that she could cyro freeze to force OT and that was bullshit. Stop tacking on stipulations.
And even if you tack on that stipulation, that only rules out Zenyatta out of the 5 other heroes who can do the exact same thing.
It's like you're so retarded that you couldn't just say "Well I don't like those guys either".
If you're trolling the only thing you're doing is wasting both of our time because I'm legitimately only trying to point things out to you.
>>338808772
>Tracer
Whittle her down with another hitscanner or predict where she's going and slap her for it
>Winston
Don't know.Not the guy you were responding to, I don't even play the game. I'm assuming the guy is complaining because ice block has no response other than waiting it out
>>338802791
You are, without a doubt, the biggest retarded on this board
>>338808883
Y'know, that gives me an idea... I wonder what 6x Lucio, spread out enough so rockets won't shit on all of them but close enough to always be healing, would be like. If you were super good you could coordinate Es so there's always at least one upped heal rate.
Would the healing stack six times?
>all these people want d.va buffed
>can easily kick plenty of ass as d.va already
>a buff will make it even easier.
Sure, do it.
>>338808918
>>338808985
im sorry anons. i regretted it as soon as i posted it.pls forgive desu
>>338809053
Yeah, and? Any ult could do that. Zarya's would be QUICKER to do that. None of those were even unsupported kills.
>>338808772
you are some stupid mother fuckers. have you never played an online shooter in your life?
things that you could not have prevented at all are fucking shit. thats what counter play is. having the opportunity to actually do something.
tracer is blinking around on the point, its annoying but can be prevented if you're good enough. winston is going ape shit on the point, its annoying but he can go down if you're good enough.
mei is invincible on the point. wait 5 seconds until you can do something.
this is liking pissing in the ocean with OW though because it has many things like this that are just awful.
>>338809026
You fell for it, black Lex Luthor.
>>338809090
No.
>>338808918
heres your hug m8
>>338809053
Half of the ults in the game would have had the same effect even faster.
>>338808985
Ok
>>338809090
I forgive anons that ask for it.
>>338809206
for christs sakes now i gotta waste a post just for Louise, at least the rest of my posts have been about Overwatch
>>338809212
That's a cute cat. Can I pet her?
>>338809150
It was pretty good coming from someone who despises Mei's playstyle, unsupported or no
>>338807536
It's got shitty goggles and the cape clips like a bitch
Why is Reinhardt so perfect?
>Retards arguing about who needs nerfs and two autists anime posting
What the fuck happened to this thread
>Open a loot box
>Bunch of awesome shit including a legendary
>Pretty much everything for a character that isn't a tank and only serves as a target dummy to build free ultimate charge
Fucking hate how roadhog is designed with these ultimates.
>>338809206
Uh. that's a hug? I've never seen one before, but I didn't know they were so "empty".
>>338809326
Yeah sure.if you tell me what that 5000 meant.hours played?
>>338809370
In Louise's defense, I've been animeposting since literally the very first post. Also, the whole thread has been arguing about nerfs. So, nothing has changed, really.
I hated, and still hate, her pink hair enough that she wasn't even on my radar cause I figured she was going to be a phoned in SJW.
But then I played her and realized she's one of the most fun characters in the game.
Now I would willingly become zarya's man bitch for hot amazoness sex.
>>338801684
>Might as well strip her down and take away her gun
>>338809370
It is called "Louiseposting."
>>338809463Lewd cat
This thread isn't thick enough.
>>>338809443
>So I opened a lootbox
>BUT MAN DOES ROADHOG suck
what
>>338809459
What 5000? You lost me.
Have you confused me with another medschoolposter, or am I just forgetting something? Elven magic is so strange.
>>338809557
>Implying most of /v/ doesn't want to strip Mei down
That was a poor choice of words.
>>338809538
Yes, I think she got a bad rap with the whole SJW thing (I'm even guilty of this). Now that I play the game a lot, I think she's fucking rad as hell. One of my favorite heroes to pocket, and one of the best at helping my fragile ass not die. I do hate her hair though. Even not for the grrl power thing, it's just ugly. There's only one way to do pink hair.
>>338809624She's humble enough to be embarrassed about being exposed to /v/ like this. I forgot to spoiler
>>338809206
But that's where one of Mei's few feats of "skill" comes into shine. Like you said half the ults can get the same results much faster because they don't require any set up unlike that webm even though it was initially just a monopolized opportunity
She doesn't need a nerf she needs a removal, you automatically lost when you're in close quarters with her. And lord knows none of your teammates are gonna be around or paying enough attention to help your ass.
Mei is fucking useless against a good team.
>>338808119
Reading comprehension: do you have it?
He plays Bastion and admits that his DPS is retarded high.
>it's a daily shill thread
>>338809754
You forgot so soon huh.
Well, it has been like 5 months since then.
You know what's strange?that weird tongue you used back then.Us it again.Please
>>338809668
>Open lootbox
>See legendary
>It's for a person I hate playing
>>338809821
Well, even if she freezes the whole team, Mei's ult is more about denial than actually killing. So, I guess it's not fair to compare it to another ult that would have wiped that point like Pharah.
>>338809959
No, you actually do have me confused. I didn't start stressing about med school until the end of April this year m8. 5 months ago I wasn't medschoolposting.
Are you telling me there are more Louisefriends?
>>338810016
In Open Beta I got three (3) Zenyatta legendary skins, but never played him.
Now, he's my second-most played. I'm pretty bitter about that. I got a legendary Widowmaker skin in my first loot crate, and I hate Widowmaker. I got a legendary Reinhardt skin earlier today, and I never play the guy.
It's not fair goddammit.
>>338809891
>get slowed by mei
>tracer has my back to help me
>mei just slightly wiffs her so she can't kill her instantly
>she freezes me
>misses her headshot
>just sprays me some more and kills me
>tracer finally kills her
At least pyro killed you outright.
>>338810080
hmmm, seems I was wrong. Forgive me, Louisefriend. It seems my elves sense is failing me.what does it mean
>>338801684
Most char don't really need a nerf . Blizzard just need to block the multi-selection of the same champ.
>>338810375
What does what mean? I'm genuinely curious. The only time I have ever used that number in conversation on /v/ was to describe roughly how manyhours of my life I've wasted on WoWbut I do not ever recall doing that in a Louise-based atmosphere. So, that isn't what you are talking about.
>>338810379
I don't know about this. I don't think multi-pick blocking is a good choice. Maybe limit to two of one hero. The thing is, most any multi-pick strat can be countered somehow. There are a limited number of 'cancer' strats (2x, 2x, 2x of 3 heroes on one team) and cheesy shit like Protect the President that could be fixed with individual hero changes (read: CHANGES, not necessarily NERFS), instead of just banning multi-picking.
Besides, 6v6s are way too much fun if you can organize a pub to actually do it.
>>338807248
>Eliminations
you mean enemies you hit for 2 dmg with your rubber bullets and your teammates finished off?
This hero is fucking shit, might as well not be in the game.
>as Reinhardt
>>338809150
Zarya could only do it quicker if she was already pumped up from people attacking her shields.
>>338810634
ur shit and might as well not play
>>338810634
POO
>>338810563
No No NOWHAT DOES IT MEAN
Cutesisterbtw
>>338810634
DESIGNATED
>>338810671
>All Heroes
Anon, this is pathetic
All these people bitching about overpowered stuff and no mention of Mercy? I just got done watching a POTG where she ressed and had nearly 50% charge for her next one before the POTG recording was over. Absolute fucking insanity.
>>338801684
And a really good player will still shit on your casual ass and you will still cry about her
>>338810738
I have 3 sisters. You are confused m8
As for the pig whore, I cannot just tell you. You have to be one with the Louise. I am flat out telling you, you just can't process it properly
>>338810796
Look up earlier in the thread. Some idiots came thinking Mercy is hard to counter and were promptly laughed out of the thread.
>>338810778
I switched to him at the start after i realized the rest of the team was retarded
>>338810876but which one was watching that dog show?
>>338811023
Dude. I'm not playing coy this time. You are actually confused.
Although my youngest sister does watch Dog with a Blog.
>>338811103
Ok fine. I'll tell ya my tricks.
You got a steam? I can't let such magic out on /v/.
OFFICIAL SHITTY HERO LIST
D.Va
>Literally just a walking atom bomb
>Primary guns suck
>Shit health for a tank
>Crit location is in her center
>Boosters help for mobility but not enough for her to capitalize on it for anything other than her ult
>Counter-measure only blocks in one directs and you can't fight back while it's active
Zenyatta
>Every healer can do his job better than him
>One could argue him being a more combat oriented support hero, which is true but 50 health + 100 shield makes him about as durable as wet paper
>Ult that does fuck all except make a pretty light show and a healing aura that nobody bothers to stand in anyway
>Harmony/Discord orbs just fly back to you arbitrarily, even if the targets don't die first
Symettra
>Primary is surprisingly effective for close range but being so close with a weapon that requires a LONG time to kill is very dangerous for how squishy she is
>Alt fire is ok for covering areas but only retards or unaware people would run into it
>+25 shields is practically nothing
>Turrets are more an annoyance than anything, having 6 set up in a corridor is cool but is really a 1 trick pony with only having 1 health
>Teleporter only has 6 uses
Would argue Phara as well with how weak her primary is in terms of splash damage and the illusion of mobility but I've seen plenty of decent Pharas that I'm probably just a shitter
>>338811297
>Harmony/Discord orbs just fly back to you arbitrarily, even if the targets don't die first
If you lose line of sight they return after a few seconds.
Also pharah is goat.
>>338811258
>Tfw no chain Louise
>Tfw phoneposting so I can't add Louises
I do. You have to tell me yours~
>>338811297
D.va is fine. She is built around teamplay, she is also excellent at ambushing, quite different from other tanks.
Zenyatta needs help. He is still very, very strong but way too fragile. Every time I play him, I feel like I can't accomplish anything if I don't have a Symmetra on my team. He's shut down too hard by some heroes, namely Widowmaker. You should see his drop in the Tier List. I know it's wrong to compare pro play to pub play, but he literally went from the very top of the S tier (rank 1) to the very bottom of the F tier (rank 21), due primarily to Symmetra shields being nerfed and his LoS requirement nerf.
Symmetra is also fine, but I feel like she's not a very compelling pick beyond first-point defense. That said, she is second to none when it comes to first-point defense... maybe that's good enough?
Pharah is more than fine. Phara is goat m8
>>338810634
Tfw she replaced her arm with a robotic one after her hand fell off from the rot due to wiping her own shit so much
>>338811535
Dammit mutt, you don't get to request anything.
Now post it!
It's not like I'm gonna do anything weird with it!
>>338811258
Louise is my waifu
>>338811497
>>338811535
Ok then how do you play Phara? As someone who was pretty good at soldier in TF2was more of a sniper mainI just can't seem to get the hang of her, 200 health just doesn't seem like enough to get anything done either
>>338801684
Mei's freeze isn't even OP, it's just boring as fuck, going from a quick paced gun fight to being totally static is fucking boring
>>338811736
Oh look. It's another Louisefriend.
Hello Louisefriendo.
>>338811297
>Pharah
>bad
lmao
>>338811736
Go away.
>>338811729
Now THAT is how you get information out of a Louisefriend.W-what ARE you going to do with it? Besides your elven magic obviously doesn't work since you had me confused, so I see little reason to give it to you
>>338811816
Well, being airborne with Pharah is more critical to the job than it is for Solly. Other than that they really are the same hero, you should just practice with her. Soldier skills translate really well to good Pharah skills, and as a Mercy main I love to see good Pharahs. The biggest thing to shake is the mentality that you're beefier than everyone else - that's not true in this game, like it is in TF2 (barring Heavy of course)
>>338801905
>plays mercy
>calls others bad
Nigger, there's no telling if you're good when you play Mercy. It's such a braindead hero. So you might be a pro or a scrub just like OP. We don't know.
>>338811816
learn how to hover, don't just fly up into the air with the jump, use it as an escape.
Also scare the crap out of them with your damage. They'll more than likely run away when they lose almost all their health after eating 1-2 rockets.
Also Get good at landing direct hits.
>>338806408
I went up against a 6 Mei team during the beta. They're kind of slow, so lining up headshots with Widowmaker was easy. I could easily pick them off, and when they used ICS block I threw my mine at it. It would automatically poison them as they left it.
>>338811994
I don't claim to be a god at Overwatch, m8. But I've played for more than long enough to know that Mei is just fine. Only bad players think Mei is OP, and they stop thinking that when they aren't bad anymore. Same thing with Bastion.
Am I wrong about that? I'd love to see what you think about it. I included the fact that I main Mercy to highlight the fact that getting killed by Mei is a very common frustration of mine, but I still don't think she needs a nerf.
>>338812039
This, too. Direct hitting is pretty important. If you've used the DH in TF2, I think that's a little closer to Pharah's rocket launcher than the stock Solly launcher is.
>>338811936I wanna add you up and teach you my jewjitsus.But mostly talk. Talk about Louise maybe and the possibility of a continuation of znt
>>338810876
>>338810738
Definitely fat irl
Any tips for an absolute scrub?
I'm not denying I'm bad, but it's not like I'm a blabbering retard.
First of all, I already know I need to work on my aim. The only one I can hit succesive headshots with is Hanzo. Not a suprise that's my favourte hero ATM.
But yeah, any advice would be appreciated.
>>338801684
Mei blows. She has so many counters.
Can we all agree that DVA needs a buff?
>>338812218
Why must /v/ always be so rude.
How the fuck is Zarya supposed to work? I understand that shield damage -> more pew but every time I play her I completely suck ass but every one I encounter absolutely fucking ravages my entire team
>>338812304
Stick with your team.
I know you might think this is obvious, but seriously. Don't play against your enemies, play with your team and protect them.
>>338812342
What did you expect?
>>338812304
Well you gotta be more specific than that, m8. Do you want tips on a particular hero? If you're going to be that vague, my advice is pick a hero, git gud with it, play it often, but do NOT be afraid to pick other heroes if the situation calls for it.
Especially Hanzo. He's a great addition to a team, but ONE sniper is more than enough.
>>338812193Give me yours. I don't take orders from elf scum. Also, I heard a while ago that they will finish the novels despite the author's death, meaning that ZnTF is no longer the only closure we have. Tbh I've been out of the loop for a while, it's been years since I last re-watched the show though I still have each episode saved on my external right now
>>338812218
m8 please i already told you this, i just looked at a BMI chart and im healthy, though uncomfortably close to 25
>>338812443
Civil discussion about pornographic related topics and content.
>>338806324
she has 3 stars in difficulty for a reason
whats the easiest way to deal with torbs turret?
>>338812635
Pharah, Junkrat, Widowmaker. Even reaper or winston can just teleport/leap to it and kill it before it can kill them.
>>338812514
Louise is NOT an elf and she most certainly is NOT SCUM!Last I heard his assistant would finish it off
pixel spray stickers when
>>338812635
shoot it until it stops working
half of the cast shits all over the poor thing. torb turrets are squishy.
but they can be effective, especially against certain heroes.
you can also place them on moving platforms. like i said earlier, that's some goddamn silliness.
>>338812635
Peak them with a hero with good burst damage.
Also bait torb out to try and deal with you. A lot of them will leave their turret to 1 v 1 you when you're trying to kill the turret.
Also team mates help.
Seriously how the fuck is this russian dyke supposed to fucking work I'm so incredibly mad right now is she reliant on having at least a semi competent team or what
>Mei's ult is now destroyable
>Widowmaker has to unscope before she can take another shot
>McCree's right click has slightly more spread
There I just fixed the game.
>>338812858
>put shield on teammate and self when under fire
>get huge damage buff
>>338812775
Yeah, all I read was that after some time to grieve his family approved the rest of the novels to be written under his name. I haven't seen past the 12th, to be honestwhichever one ends in implied lesbian Louise/cow maid goodness, I think it's 12 at any rate. Having read them makes me appreciate how badly they borked the anime. Skipped the whole 8th novel, which is seriously the most important one in terms of developing the characters of Louise and especially Saito (and also making it so that Tiffa isn't a COMPLETE deus ex, just a minor one)
Also I ain't talkin' about Louise. You are the elf, you are the scum. Give me your steam id, elf scum
>>338812858
Yes, sorry. She's also reliant on having a competent player. She is hard to play well m8 but don't give up, a good Zarya is a godly addition to a team.
>>338812916
Giving it spread doesn't make sense. Its recoil is already pretty gnarly, but maybe you could increase that? If you want to address McCree, I'd either give him moderate fall-off or moderate inaccuracy at range.
>>338812635
Genji
>>338805127
>who desperately needs buffs?
>D.va
>>338813008
I've already told you what I am gonna do with yours, but what are you gonna do with mine, huh?
>>338812858
My only problem with Zarya [spoielr]from gameplay perspective[/spoiler] is her gun. It feels extremelly weak no matter the charge and high charge decays almost instantly. Aiming it is just awkward and it's range is really bad.
It be perfect if it has some minor aoutoaim like Symmetra's, but less prominent. It's pretty much an inferiror version of Symmetra's pistol anyway.
Am I imagining it, or is Bastion weaker than in the open beta? Feels like he has higher damage dropoff and less accuracy.
>>338812916
>Widowmaker has to unscope before she can take another shot
Pointless, scoping is instant.
I've seen Widowmakers using quicksope macro instead or remaining scoped and it actually gave them a great advantage,
>>338811297
I have been pub stomping with D.Va pretty hard, she is great at taking out widowmakers and bastions on high positions. I have been pretty effective so far playing her as a backline disruptor as you essentially never die with her ultimate.
>it's a "spread weapons are a light caress from more than 3 meters away" episode
As reaper a Pharah literally just pressed shift when I was in her face and then killed me, on the killcam I could see my shots do 10 damage each
>>338813183
Add you to my friend collection, just as I've been adding your Louises to my Louise collection.
It's rare to come across another man with good taste.
>>338813042
Reflecting the turret isn't that productive, it doesn't do that much damage. Genji is usually better off flanking/peeking it, though reflecting isn't a horrible choice if you don't need to save reflect for a different enemy, I suppose.
>>338813285
See, that's one thing that D.va excels at. People try to play her the same as Reinhardt or Zarya, which is why they think she's bad.
>Find game
>12 seconds left
>Defeat while running up to obj anyway
>Everyone leaves
>Quitting game because not enough players
>Find game
>12 seconds left
>Defeat while running up to objective
>>338813282
Hm, fair point.
Maybe just reduce the charge up speed.
Mei is Overweight.
>>338813502
she's perfect
>>338813369
D-don't you think you're gonna sweet talk me into posting it, s-scum. Your compliments do nothing to me NOTHING.
I also don't like how you said "friend collection". Does this imply I'm gonna be forgotten in a river of hundreds of other steam accounts in 4 days?
>>338813607
No, I only talk to 4-5 of my steam friends on a regular basis. I'd like to make it 5-6.You have to tell me anyway, so I know which friend request is yours. Might as well do it now~
>>338813502
This is fact
>>338801684
Nerf this
>>338813042
the turret doesn't do enough dps for reflect to kill it. Genji is just better off spamming shurikens
>>338812604
>>338806514
If you need to put extreme effort to make character do things that other characters do with little effort, there is a problem.
>>338813685you ever watch korean desk car?
>>338813810
>Defending the point on King's Row
>Our D.Va launches her Ult
>Explode
>Turns out enemy D.Va launched hers at the same time and I confused them
>It's PoTG because apparently 3 more people did the same mistake
>>338801684
9/10 bait
made me reply..
and pray to god you arent such a stupid piece of feces
>>338813950
Does she say the same thing as the enemy and ally?
seems like a decent place to ask
does anyone have any advice for Zarya?
I like playing as her, but I can't for the life of me do any damage with her
even when I'm almost at full charge, I never seem to do any damage
>>338813879
No. What's that? I've googled it, and now I wish that I didn't. Did you bring this up because of the pink-hair bitch?
Post the ID already. We're running out of time in this thread.
>>338813873
She's high-skill, high-reward. I don't know if you've played with a good Zarya, but it sounds like you haven't. In the right hands Zarya is a point-cappin', ultimate-ability-synergizin', payload-pushin', Mercy-shieldin' death machine.
I know that "you're just bad" and "you haven't met a good one" is a weak argument, but then, good Zaryas are pretty rare. She's a pretty underplayed hero, at least in my experience, I think people don't like her because of the skill it takes.
Where can I get some r34 on Mei senpai?
>>338814041
No. "Nerf this!" for an enemy/self, "Activating self-destruct sequence!" for friendly. But since the anon in question was playing D.va, basically he would have heard "Nerf this!" twice, which is amusing to think about
>>338814041
No, everyone has different lines
>Ally: Activating self-destruct sequence
>Enemy: Nerf this!
Doesn't help when both happen simultaneously.
>>338803624
>How do you expect to make a grenade not AoE? If it only worked on a direct hit it would be worthless.
Would it though
>>338814041
Yes and so does fucking McRee, IT'S HIGH NOON, "Dude is thst yours or his- " BANG
Has ANYONE played a game in which the attacking team managed to capture the last Egypt checkpoint?
I have literally never lost Egypt while defending and never won while attacking.
>>338802676
Also, why does a fat fuck Chinese chinks face look like she was born in America to American parents?
>>338814079
No it was a hint for finding me.
Well this makes it difficult. I don't know what kind of hint to give you.
>symmetra on team
>doesn't shield anybody
>>338814161
Friendly McRee's ult is not high noon though.
It's some unremarkable line that I can't even remember.
>>338806632
It's the point of her though, she's all about being an objective whore
>icewalling the enemy team out while capturing point or pushing objective
>icewalling to extend overtime
>freezing everyone in close quarters to cheat some more time
>>338814329
You could give me your ID you mongoloid.
Or keep giving more hints, I guess I can start searching through steam.
>>338814420
Step on up!
All it needs is 'pardner' to be more generic. Actually, I can't recall a single line where McCree says 'pardner'. What a shame.
>>338806807
Genji gets completely fucked by Mei if he's dumb enough to get anywhere near
>>338801684
How to balance Mei:
>Make her slowing ability still slow the enemy, but not slow their aiming until absolutely frozen
Fixed.
>>338814518
wow rude don't bully me please.
You give me hints too. Once we add somebody that responds to a message with pig whore we are united.I'm in the gurumin group!
so we can all agree zenyatta is best healer right?
>>338814665
The big one or small one? Why don't you enter the chatroom cutie pie
>>338814701
Nonsense. Nobody does it better than Mercy.
Zenyatta is fuckin' rad, though. Stuffin' niggas full of discord and destruction
>>338808391
>shield yourself
For 2 seconds, wait 11 to do it again.
>shelf teammate
He retreats, wait 11 seconds to do it again
>pull everyone in together
And fail to kill anyone, sine your teammates retarded and you deal o damage.
>tether gun
That does not register damage half of the time due shitty tick rate.
Painfully slow reload every 2 seconds.
Also, her beam range is melee and grenades are slow and easily avoidable.
>3 star difficulty
Blizz thinks that her gimmick that easily countered by not shooting at her for 2 seconds makes her strong but difficult.
>>338814768
Big one I suppose.I'm not onlineI'm also quite shy!
>>338813795
Pretty sure they said overweight not obese you filthy fucking degenerate
>>338814768
>can heal from afar and helps destroy tanks
although he his squishy but i mean he needs some kind of downfall.
>>338814228
My thoughts, never seen so caucasian chinese.
>>338814853
Hurry up, god damn. This will be quick. I'm already in the stupid thing. There's some other dork in here. I want to share my love of Louise with another.
>>338814953
No, he needs a buff. He's way, way, way too squishy, and the LoS nerf means he has to be in the thick of combat a lot more to be effective, which makes him easy prey.
>>338815035
>>338814228
Supposedly the chinese players hate her because of this. Whereas everyone else hates her because she's frustrating to go up against.
>>338814846
>Shield self, walk out, shield worn off before you leave cover, die hilariously while the rest of your team fucks around somewhere else
Soloqueue general
>>338815136
I can see that. What does he say?
>>338814228
Because an actual Chinese face isn't attractive
>mfw fighting Mei asfucking anything
>>338815165
He's away. Now be a good little Louise and get in~
>>338808840
Teammate shield is useless, people do it out of boredom.
>>338815136
i don't know. after spending time with him i feel like buffing him could make him too good. i feel like he's in a good spot as it stands.
>See a McCree.
>One of two things happens.
>A. McCree throws his flashbang and misses, then dies.
>B. McCree throws his flashbang and right clicks and kills you
Stuns in FPSs are cancer.
>>338815226
I'm nervous.
>>338801684
>Make her deployable ult destroyable
>Make her ice heal not invincible
These are the only two I'd do.
>>338801684
Mei is the literal worst hero in the game. I can't believe how many bad people play this game. Learn to aim you fucks
>>338806574
>since they could get through to the back lines
Protip: nobody in overwatch can do this well. Small maps and linear design only worsen the problem, and the most mobile characters (dva, genji, winston) have such terrible dps that even mercy can outkill them. Never mind the fact that you are never fighting mercy on her own since she's healing someone and is probably behind a reinhardt or roadhog.
>>338815312
As long as you keep posting cute Louises, I don't care what you are
>>338815272
Just wait until you see a Zenyatta main pick something else because they have a competent Widow
>>338801684
Once you get good with most of the roster and you actually start counter-picking instead of using "m-muh favourite character!!" you'll realize you're full of shit.
>people pick 2 snipers and 2 offensive instantly
>have to pick either tank or healer
>retards who absolutely had to pick damage classes first can't fucking aim and try their absolute hardest to avoid killing the enemy support, completely ignore torbjorns turret and bastion
>have to change and take care of them yourself
>fucknuts start whining "omg why did you change we need tank!?!? nuub!"
Fuck this game
Hanzo needs an rof nerf.
>just boost into snipers with dva or winston, you'll wreck them!
>spam charge shots or weakly strung arrows
>mech dead before they're even down to 20%
>>338815634
>Mei
>Having a counter
Ranged characters are better at dealing with her, but to say she has a counter is laughable. Genji to Bastion is a counter. Who is Mei's Genji?
>>338815472
>the most mobile characters (dva, genji, winston)
>>338815752
Tracer
>>338814079
>I think people don't like her because of the skill it takes.
and her hair is bad
>>338815737
>Hanzo needs a nerf
No, D.Va needs a buff. She is far too weak.
>>338815646
>Playing with randoms and not friends
Don't know what you were expecting.
>play of the gameIts bastion
>>338815752
Zarya
>>338815795
>Implying.
Tracer gets hard countered by Mei.
>>338815752
Honestly the best counter to Mei is another, better Mei.
>>338815752
There are no counters in this game period.
Roadhog and Tracer give Mei the most troubles in 1v1
>>338815848
Jesus you are so shit at this game
>>338815762
Well, those 3 are among the most mobile. What's your point?
>>338815752
Windowlicker, I guess.
The problem is, nobody can hard counter Mei if she's close enough. But a LOT can counter her at anything longer than close range
>>338815823
Dear god, this too. I mean, I get it. She lifts, and she's a soldier. Hair would be counterproductive. But I still hate it.
>>338815897
How am I shit? I play Mei and I shit on Tracers all day. They try to snake away and by that point they're frozen and fucked.
>>338815887
Widowmaker counters Zenyatta ferociously m8.
Genji counters Bastion. Tracer counters Lucio. Pharah counters Torbjorn.
What are you even talking about? I couldn't even list all the examples
>>338815762
Prove me wrong faggot. These are your best options at getting past a tank and straight to mercy. Unless you're seriously going to imply that pharah or tracer can run through the entire enemy team, have the tank ignore them, and pick off mercy without dying in the process.
>>338815826
Who are you quoting? I said rate of fire nerf, not just a generic nerf. Hanzo is fine except for his rapid fire bullshit in close range. He has absurd dps that works as a hard counter to any anti sniper.
https://twitter.com/ScrubQuotesX/status/735385519631241216
>Shielding team as Reinheart, on payload
>Bastion protected, mowing down everyone
>Mercy keeping us topped up
>76 keeping the sidelines clear
>Entire other team is fucked
>Single mei strolls in with her ult, that unlike other ults you have no chance of getting out of dodge
>Uses her overpowered right click to headshot everyone to death
Yeah no, Mei is totally fine and not at all overpowered. Its perfectly acceptable to shut down an entire team and kill them solo
>B-but high noon!
Lock on time, can line of sight
>Reaper
Just kill him
>D.VA
Line of sight.
etc etc, Mei's ult will always work, its so babby shittier mode, needs to have a way to get out of it like every other ult in the game.
>>338815917
>I still hate it.
I swear, the employee they based Zarya on probably sucked a few dicks
why else would they allow such an un marketable character even in?
>>338812514
You say I need to be specific but already gave very valuable general advice.
>one sniper is more than enough
Thanks
>>338812407
You too
>>338815993
>I play Mei
I play everyone, you shitter.
A half decent tracer can ruin a Mei's day if you're desperate. But I don't have all this trouble fighting Meis that a few whiners seem to be having.
>>338816160
Nigga, I never said I ONLY play Mei. Jesus, calm yourself. Mei isn't that good, but I have no issue killing Tracers as Mei.
>>338816113
You thank me now, but if you seriously plan on maining Hanzo (especially if you become very good) this will be your biggest frustration. I don't call Widowmaker Windowlicker for no reason, most people who play her are fucking retards who REFUSE to play non-snipers. Hanzo also has this problem.
A-and why are you complimenting me? You're such an idiot... jeez.
>>338816091
>group up
>get fucked by aoe ult
Increase proficiency
>>338816005
There are plently of circumstances and ways for your prey character to easily kill the supposed counter.
There's just no way in this game for one character to have a 100% chance or even simply a solid edge in winning against another regardless of skill levels or circumstances such as cooldown, teammate intervention, map features, objectivies, etc...
>>338816091
>Entire other team is fucked
You don't understand the irony in your own post.
You need a Mei for when the enemy team is stupidly huddled together and the rest of the team can't do much because of it.
If you don't want to be wiped, spread out.
The AOE of Mei's ult isn't that big.
>>338816219
"Mei isn't that good"
Yes I know, glad we came to an understanding.
>>338815752
>McRee
>E
>M2
>shift back if needed
>>338816335
Okay maybe there's no 100-0 matchups, but consider Zenyatta vs. Widowmaker. I honestly think this is the worst matchup in the game. What would you put it as? I'd say at least 80-20.
And I'd say anything 70-30 or worse is a hard counter.
>>338816259
Because I usually get less than zero advice when asking on 4chan. Been here long enough to expect nothing else.
>>338816091
>I have to make up green text stories to make my point
Even full freeze of BLizzard is not enough to kill more than two-three of weakest characters with headshots. Yet alone even a single Reinhardt or Bastion. Mei's ult is harmless unless there are teammates to abuse it.
Playing as Mercy my teams Lucio always seems to get more healing done and gets the commendations, is this what being cucked feels like /v/?
>>338810379
Go back to league
>be near McCree
>lose
Stun + Fan the Hammer is really one of the only things in this game that pisses me off because it just can't fail. I just have to pray that if I am ever in an enclosed space I never see that nigger.
>>338816567
>Mei's ult is hameless unless there are teammates around
Fuck off Mei shitter.
>>338805145
she's too easy to evade any attempt to fuck her up, she literally has 2 crutches that allow her to escape any situation on a relatively short cooldown.
I see girl who whites but originally brown when it sucked me. But why was brown?
>>338816448
That's definitely the worst, but then it's more about strategy. Zenyatta should not put itself into potential sniper line of fire, never stick out in the frontline. Zenyatta should hang around teammates that should protect him. Or well, at least draw Widowmaker's fire.
My point is "Counter" is just a bad buzzword.
>hear Mei start to talk
>activate deflection
>deflect Mei's ultimate back onto enemy team
>activate glowing ninja sword ult
>have my way with them, leave Mei for last so I can make her watch.
>>338805752
Wow
Wait
Are you saying that this game has counters for different characters?
Woah...
>>338816724
>smug anime face
>calling anyone a shitter
>>338816865
Nice retort have some more anime.
>>338816865
>he got owned by a smug anime
>>338816834
>Hear Mei start to talk
>Die
Here I fixed your bullshit.
The only things that need a nerf are...
>Widowmaker
Simply because she's better than Hanzo in 99% of situations as is
>McCree's flash
Hammer is fine, it's supposed to be powerful while extremely inaccurate. Problem is that e->right click requires 0 skill on the hand of the player, and cripples everything short of tanks.
>Lucio
He's so good the entire meta centers around him.
>>338814227
more junkrats
>>338817008
>>338817002
>14x
Neo/v/eddit please go.
>>338817110
>Lucio
I mean he's annoying but not a problem
>>338817078
You can deflect her ult, bruh. It's magic when it happens and I usually have his ult ready because I tend to hold onto it.
>>338817002
Chokers are my fetish
the only huge issue i have with overwatch is multiples of the same hero on one team. its either really good or really bad, and i think it should be left to a weekly brawl game mode or something.
>>338814075
first things first, you're an off-tank. don't be the main tank. you're best damn off-tank in the game, but you're still an off tank.
second, use cover. half of your health is shields, give them time to recharge every once and a while. this combined with point number 4 will make you an ever present force on the frontline.
third, use your projected shield liberally. whenever it looks like a teammate is gonna take damage, use it. it has twice the health of your personal shield and its cooldown is 2 seconds shorter. this'll be your charge maker.
fourth, save you're personal shield for when you really need it. without this shield you are surprisingly vulnerable. with no mobility and a largish frame you can catch a fair amount of flak. as a general rule of thumb, use it when your shields are gone if you're still in the thick of it. only other time is when you start hearing ults go off. oh, and also when you use your ult. whenever you use your ult everyone caught by it will probably shoot at you. dont use your ult unless you have your personal barrier.
lastly, use alt fire if you're having trouble hitting. generally i reserve beam usage for static targets and tanks, everything else gets the grenades. I know the beam does more damage per ammo and per second but the grenade is generally a more reliable option.
Thats the best I can give you in so many words. ults probably the easiest part if you talk to your team at all.
>>338817212
It's not that he's a problem so much is that he makes the other supports have less of a point to them.
The only reason, reasonably, to use another support is mercy's revive ultra for payload. Point cap / koth Lucio is far better.
>>338817202
Well shit. sorry that pic didn't exist back in your times, gramps.
>>338817110
I find that Hanzo is a much better offensive sniper
His arrows have a strange drop to them so you have to get used to it but his ricochet instagibs many lightweights and the sensor can be very useful for your team
>>338802703
These guys are the biggest faggots. Obviously if getting close to Mei with your shield up doesn't work the first time, maybe stop doing it?
>>338809651
My NIgga
>>338806009
he's fine in most situations but becomes dogshit when the stars align and the enemy team is a deathball that has mccree, roadhog, lucio and whatever. then he can't do shit
>>338814075
oh and one more thing. more of a state of mind type thing, think of your barriers as more of active block rather than a shield. if you've ever played chivalry, the mindset is similar.
>>338817460
The problem is that WM's charged shot already instagibs lightweights and her ult is a thousand times more useful for a team.
>>338817460
>His arrows have a strange drop to them so you have to get used to it
just aim between the top and middle dots on his crosshair for long shots, for anything longer don't even bother.
>>338806205
>block
>good offense
are you literally stupid?
>wanna play something fast
>entire enemy team anti fun and anti fast
>fucking Mei, mccree, roadhog, symettra, torb
>have to work around their picks because Thas just how things work
>>338817589
But WM has to aim and charge the shot and on offense thats very hard
Imagine your getting harrased by a junkrat/tracer at a clse-mid range and you have to aim-charge-shoot a single thin projectile to kill them while under pressure
Hanzo is much easier to twitch out a fast ricochet arrow with a higher chance to kill them
As for the ult, it is objectively better but its still an ult compared to Hanzo's being a 20 sec cd
Enemy defense are usually always in a predictable spot anyway so you can get more mileage out of your arrows
>>338817821
>He doesn't know reflect is a huge portion of genjis damage
>>338817821
It reflects it and hits them, doing you know, damage to them, and you know, none to you. Are you fucking brain dead?
/v/ whines and cries about nerfing characters and doesn't even now how they fucking function
