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>Nerf her health by 50
>Make her deployable ult destroyable
>Make it take longer to freeze tanks
>Make her have to break through shields from Symmetra, Lucio etc before she can freeze
>Make her ice heal not invincible
>Make it so it can't contest
>Make it so it doesn't heal and just gives invuln
>Make icicle shot do 50 damage instead of 75
Any one of these would fix this fucking awful overpowered cunt.
She should not be able to contest points solo or devastate entire teams it's fucking bullshit
Fuck you Blizzard
>>338801684
Nerf Mei is just like Nerf Bastion or Nerf Torbjorn.
It is literally the calling card of the bad player. You are bad, and eventually you will stop being bad (or stop playing heroes hard-countered by Mei, if its a continuing problem), and your opinion will change
t. mercy main
my man even if you wanna legit call for nerfs you can't just nerf everything at once, like have some control
>>338801905
glad you mention mercy, because past the whining of mei bastion and the rest, mercy needs a nerf to her ult accumulation.
>>338801684
>Make her useless
That's all you really had to say, OP.
>>338801684
realistically she needs a nerf on long-range icicle damage
ok, so she's supposed to be strong against people who get too close and get frozen, fine. She doesn't also need to be a sniper.
>>338801684
ideally, one would neither nerf strong character nor buff weak characters; one should simply learn how to operate in any situation with who you roll.
>Junkrat, Reaper, and 76 shit all over her
>people still cry for nerfs
Calm down Somilo
>>338801684
only think she needs nerf is that ice block self healing. she already has powerful kit
>>338801905
>mercy main
>anime icon
Not surprised. Just wanted to let you know she is the most useless hero in the game. Even Symmetra has her place but not Mercy. Her healing is worse than Lucios, Her damage buff isnt as good as Zenyattas defense debuff
>>338801968
no read the post, he just wants at least 1 of those changes, not all of them.
>>338802191
They already nerfed the iceblock by making her unable to contest points while frozen
>>338802058
It sounds like you are also bad. As a Mercy main my favorite thing is when the whole enemy team focuses on my patients instead of me so I can build my ultimate very, very fast. That only happens if you are ignoring Mercy, and if you're doing that, you and/or your team is bad.
It's not hard to stop her from building ult, and it's also not hard to stop her from rezzing 3-4 people at once.
>>338802142
Long-range icicle kills are almost always incidental. This isn't a recurring problem. If you want to talk about short-range characters who are strong at long range, you should be talking about McCree.
>>338802210
Okay. I wasn't going to add anime to this post, but, if you insist m8
Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that, [-]
>>338801905
>stop playing heroes hard-countered by Mei
>stop playing 3/4 tanks
>>338802142
How much damage does it do? 200? It does as much as Widows charge shot which is ridiculous
>>338802058
>Ult in a team fight
>Start healing them all during the teamfight
>After this one fight im already 50%
Mercy is stupid strong, theres a reason "competitive" teams run her and three winstons, they are the true cancer.
>>338802058
>Mercy ult is unstoppable and accumulates % at staggering rates to the point where you could literally solo rez people and have it back in the time it would have taken them to run back.
Her ult needs a huge fucking nerf in terms of how fast she build charge. We're talking 300% nerf or some shit. Its hands down the most powerful ability in the game but it has zero counterplay beyond "just dive past her team and kill her"
>>338802263
Please post more cute anime girls lifting a finger.
>>338802263
the problem is that past the deaths she manages to get enough charge extremely quickly.
I wouldn't bitch if her ult animation actually mattered, however.
>>338802389
She doesn't need a nerf you just need to learn to prioritize killing the healer
>>338802469
>Just kill her
Love this meme.
>>338802282
Mei killing tanks usually takes a breddy long time. What I really meant by that was Genji. D.Va and Reinhardt have too much armor for Mei to be a mei-jor threat.
>>338802320
Even with that logic, you're still wrong. Do you want to talk about overpicked heroes in competitive? Again, you should be talking about McCree (and Lucio). These two heroes have over a 100% pickrate, ie, you can expect to see more than one per team per round.
>>338802408
Louise is a pig whore. She is not cute. Also, I'm limited in this department.
>>338802389
That isn't the counter-rez, play. That's the counter-Mercy play. If you don't kill Mercy and try to kill her teammates instead, you are literally the reason she is rezzing so much. This is a problem with you being bad.
>>338802453
Well, it DOES matter. Just, not enough. You can kill her within the first maybe quarter second of her ult and you will interrupt it, for what that's worth.
>>338802263
>and it's also not hard to stop her from rezzing 3-4 people at once.
You're right it's impossible. You can't interrupt it and there's no casting time. The second she presses q is the second they get up.
>>338801684
It is possible for genji to counter and reflect her ult. The iceblock healing her is important since she is on the low end of characters to heal immediately.
If you make her ult destructible why not make Dva's or Tracers? Why not cancel Widowmakers after she dies?
Mei is great but not the most OP character in the roster. Stop crying about it.
I could go into every point but I'm drunk and stopped caring.
>>338801684
>>Nerf her weight by 50
This.
Why the fuck fat nerd is in death tournament?
>>338801684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Mp5gE0HSw
>>338802259
No they didnt. I've lost 6 games today alone because an invincible frozen Mei contested a point and the entire enemy team made it back during that time. Literally an hour ago it happened.
>>338802582
>anime poster meme's hard about their waifu
>>338802389
Anon diving mercy literally works though.
>>338802210
>icon
>>338802469
>Just kill her
But this is sexist.
Also she is a woman so high chance gamer's also a woman, so you literally suggest to rape a real woman.
>>338801684
>Make her deployable ult destroyable
It already is, you just have to be fast. If you could destroy it while its just sitting there it would never, ever go off, it'd be easier to kill than an ulting Phara. Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about.
>>338801684
>mei is OP
t. scrubs who refuse to improve
>>338801905
this
>>338802710
This is fair. She's still physically on top of it and it is easy for the opposing team to pick on her.
I think the rate of healing may have been nerfed but I can't confirm that.
>>338802724
Start playing against better teams. You dive, they kill you while she floats to someone else. Shitters think its as simple as "just dive her!"
Even this is a footnote in how bullshit she is, doesn't matter if you kill her a dozen times, all it takes is her getting an ult off once and it swings the game.
>>338802210
r u dum or just stoopid
>>338802721
Did you mean Mercy or Louise?
Incidentally, I do have more Louise saved than Mercy.
>>338802628
The fuck are you talking about? Kill her stupid fragile ass. If you want to stop her from rezzing 3-4 teammates, that means 3-4 of her teammates are dead and she should be easy prey. If you can't stop her from zooming in and rezzing it - and if you aren't EXPECTING her to do exactly that - you are bad, and should spend less time shitposting and more time improving.
Please refer to >>338802724
>Zenyatta can turn invincible
>heal himself
>That's his ultimate
>Mei turns invincible
>heals herself
>That's not her ultimate
Nerf Roadhog
>hook combo is an instakill, pulls through walls, extremely easy to hit
>heals half of his health in less than 2 seconds with a cooldown of 8 seconds
easiest instakill combo next to mccree
>>338802582
wow how rude.
>>338802582
but thats my point, when its up theres no stopping it. ONLY other ultimates i can think of doing that is zenyatta and mei off the top of my head.
saying this isn't a problem is far from the truth.
>>338802823
I think you Mei be right about the rate of healing.
They've absolutely changed her freeze ray since open beta though; now it takes less time to freeze someone, but they thaw out quicker.
>>338802887
Zenyatta's lasts longer, heals allies, he can move.
I'd agree on lower health just because she has a self heal. If anything else I'd make it take longer for to freeze or shorten the distance of it.
>>338802835
>all it takes is her getting an ult off once and it swings the game
This could be said about many heroes
>>338802909
>pulls through walls
this is a tickrate issue
Same with widows headshots
You can at least have a fighting chance against Mei in close quarters.
You know who you can't win against in close quarters?
Mc-fucking-Cree.
No one gives a shit if Mei is OP or not. She's just not fun to play against.
Period.
FPS games do not need AoE multi-second stuns. Ever.
>>338802857
Oops, I forgot Louise.
>>338802887
Maybe you'd have a point, if Mei's freeze healed her teammates for 100/sec
Zenyatta is a cool mofo.
>>338802971
I don't think ti has been nerfed. To be honest, it was never that good to begin with. That said, I played ~10 hours of Mei in open beta and 0 games as her since Monday.
>>338802952It's not what it looks like
>>338802909
It can only work through walls if the opponent has shit internet. Even then it is super-rare. His hook goes waaaay farther than it used to. It used to be pointless but now it's useful. It's a skill shot and has a middle-length cooldown.
>>338802909
>Played Zarya tonight.
>Hooks me or team mate by me.
>insta-shield myself or ally.
>Full charged in no time.
It's pretty great.
>>338803062
Yeah this I used to think that everyone was balanced and people just bitched a lot but I never got to play against a """"good"""" McCree in beta.
>>338803062
flashbang really shouldn't stun with splash
Just make it blind video/audio for a second or two. Give some sort of resource to the hero hit by it.
knock her health down by 25
That's all I'd do.
OR
Make it so she has to physically power her ultimate with her gun, instead of it being a deployable.
So she cant just freeze the entire capture zone on control maps and single handedly kill the entire enemy team
I pull this off constantly and its bullshit
>>338803023
the only other ult that swings the game with no counterplay is literally meis ult. tracer maybe, but thats only if you realize the bomb too late.
>>338803067Then what is it?
>>338802971
The freeze length may have changed. I don't have any footage of my own but I think I used to be able to get off three icicles instead of two.
>>338803063
Yes, but it sounds like you have no issue with McCree or Reinhardt :^)
>>338803062
Comes down to whether or not you dodge a flashbang. Pretty aggravating imo, but then, playing Mercy as much as I do I expect to get killed by McCree a lot.
>>338803132
My favorite part of Zarya (and also Genji) is when you're attacked by someone who doesn't know when or how to stop pulling the trigger.
>>338803215Stop Louiseposting, you will get us both banned
>>338803023
Not nearly as much as hers. Every other ult that swings games has some sort of draw-back or an oppertunity to counter it.
High noon: you can kill him and he has to charge it, stop it with CC or LoS
Justi-aaaugggh: You can shoot her out of the sky, counter ult with any support, or LoS.
Reaper: CC, kill or literally use any support Ult.
Rat tire: You can kill it pretty easily and can hear it coming
Dragon: walk to the left.
Mercy ult is instant, and you cant kill her out of it, if she hits the button they are rezzed. Its the most broken ult in the game and anyone denying this is fucking delusional.
Although I don't like her design honestly my only gripe with her is that her ice wall has ridiculous range to set up. I don't recall it being like that in the beta
>>338803062
His fucking stun grenade shouldn't be an aoe. The fact he just hast to throw it around your feet is fucking stupid.
>>338803063
>No one gives a shit if Mei is OP or not. She's just not fun to play against.
>
>Period.
This. THIS.
Who cares if she's OP or UP. If there's a Mei on the enemy team I Instantly have less fun.
Every death feels cheap and "wow I'm a fucking retard". Not once do I feel "haha that Mei player is really good!"
I just get pissed at myself for being a retard, and Mei for being so fucking obnoxious and annoying to kill.
>>338803286Can't stop won't stop
>>338803179
If it didn't stun Tracers direct counters would drop to Torbj. I say direct counters because he does it easily whereas other characters can certainly do it but Tracer can easily make it difficult.
Just make Mcrees fan have a cooldown like Lucios right click, let it reset on rolls. Would actually mean he has to aim shots instead of just running and spamming shots at people all day.
>>338803195
Drop her HP by 50 and don't let her contest points in ice block. Done and done.
>>338803406
How do you expect to make a grenade not AoE? If it only worked on a direct hit it would be worthless.
IMO the only reasonable thing you could do to McCree is make him less effective at long range.
>>338803432
Well, it sounds like if you stop being retarded, Mei will stop killing you.
I don't get why you get mad when Mei kills you close-range. It's supposed to happen like that.
>>338803448
Lucioscum eh? Louise would be ashamed, despite the similarities between their names.
>>338803336
>High noon: you can kill him and he has to charge it, stop it with CC or LoS
>Justi-aaaugggh: You can shoot her out of the sky, counter ult with any support, or LoS.
I understand what you mean that you can't kill her while it happens but you simply have to kill her first. As someone who plays mercy I can tell you that nothing is more frustrating than seeing you teammates about to die, getting excited about a PoTG rez and then dying to a genji who was smart enough to know that once your team is dead you'll probably rez them.
>>338803336
>Mercy ult is instant, and you cant kill her out of it, if she hits the button they are rezzed. Its the most broken ult in the game and anyone denying this is fucking delusional.
She has to be fairly close to use it though. It's not like she can rez teammates capturing a point from the base. On top of that, it's as simple as shutting her down. She's easy to kill and you fuck the team over and stop her from building up her ult as long as you focus on her and not just leave her alone like a retard. Most matches I've played as Mercy where they left me alone, we won and I got to pop off 5+ rezzes. Matches where they gunned for me fucked us over and I got about 1 rez attempt.
>>338802809
>McRee above S76
Pros know nothing
>>338803624
He throws it at someone's feet missing them completely and stunning 3 people on the team.
That shit is ridiculous.
>>338803558
>Just make Mcrees fan have a cooldown like Lucios right click, let it reset on rolls. Would actually mean he has to aim shots instead of just running and spamming shots at people all day.
except that would fix literally nothing because no character can survive flashbang+fan
>>338803624
Nobody plays perfectly
"Just never die" Isn't an argument. Even the shittiest players on earth will get a kill at least once, even just by chance. You're just shitposting at this point.
>>338803624wow how'd you know?
>>338803676
My point being that all ults have counter play in just fucking kill the person with the ult.
>>338803286
>Yes, but it sounds like you have no issue with McCree or Reinhardt :^)
McCree is horse shit, but at least he doesn't slow an entire team on a whim and fuck up their mouse sensitivity before stunning for free head shots. You can also just hop over his ult Reinhardt's ult, but I'm sure a wanna-be pro like you knows that. Meanwhile Mei's will freeze anyone vertical to it as long as they're in LoS, so that foot you have hanging over the edge of a balcony gets you frozen and killed.
>>338802909
not only this, but Roadfags always think they're hot shit
say anything about nerfing roadhog and they'll throw a tantrum
>>338803712
>>338803676
You are aware that she can fly both to dead bodies and team-mates right? Its ridiculously easy to get to your team to rez as her. The argument of "Just kill her" isn't good enough. Play against a compotent team thats actually communicating and see how much more of a daunting task this is.
>>338803132
I'd fully charge Zarya if you know what I mean
>>338803406
Marston's stun grenade is fine. If he needs any changes, it's that his combat roll shouldn't reload his gun.
>Mei isn't overpowered!
t. Mei main
>>338801684
She's bad, stop being a shitter, work together with your team and/or shoot her from far away
>>338801684
If she was truly as unstoppable as you would have us believe, why aren't there teams of Mei x5 tearing games apart?
>>338803758
That's what he is supposed to do, he's a fucking duelist. The problem is that outside of his cooldowns he can still spam down people with 420 damage fans without flashbang or his roll. If they slapped a cooldown on his fan that was rather lengthy he would at the very least have to consider when to burst rather than just throwing it out there every time flashbang comes off cooldown.
>Mei deploys her ult
>fly up in to the air as DVA/Pharah
>freeze anyway despite being all the way at the top of the skybox
>get killed with a single headshot
Okay.
>>338803859
You are aware that most offensive characters can kill her before she gets to a dead body mid flight. I can't count how many times a widowmaker has shot me out of the air duckhunt style.
>>338801684
>bitching about Mei instead of one of the actually overpowered characters that need a nerf
SOMEBODY'S just BAD
>>338803775
Your Louises are not very cute. In my opinion, good fanart of Louise is few and far between.Most of the good stuff I have seen was on /d/. It was good in terms of portraying the character, but horribly lewd at best and disgusting at worst.
>>338803736
Have you seen pro McCrees? They are fucking insane. There's one in particular I strongly suspect actually cheats.
>>338803770
Well, I've been shitposting since my very first post in this thread. But that's beside the point. I'm not telling you to not die. I'm telling you that if Mei gets you in a corner close-range, she's gonna beat you. That's not because of you, that's because Mei is a very strong close range fighter. I don't get why you are getting mad when this happens. I don't get angry when McCree or Mei or an ulting Genji kill my stupid ass close-range.
>>338803961
>he's a fucking duelist.
duelist implies that some kind of battle is taking place. Not instantly killing anyone that is within 30 feet of him because he can throw a flashbang in their general direction.
>>338804007
I dunno genius maybe don't fly out into the open next time.
>play zarya
>mei is now completely worthless
thats a hot tip for you guys
>looking for balance in a blizzard game
LMFAO
>>338804086
>She can rez anywhere anytime
>She can't survive out in the open
wew
>>338804071
He excels at 1v1. That is his purpose. You outrange him he's done. I won't argue that his flashbang combo isn't fun to deal with, but that's literally what he is designed to do.
>>338804027I hope you don't mean giving her a dick by good fanart. Or something worse!
>Mei's Ice Block now only heals 50
there fixed
>i cant counter this fat chinese white girl so i need to whine to the company instead of gitting gud
The most OP hero is the matchmaking that finds you 5 retards to babysit.
>>338804176
>You outrange him he's done
no if you outrange reaper he's done. McCree is a completely broken close range character while still being an average mid to long range character. That's why every team brings two of them at high levels.
>>338802809
overwatch """"pros"""" lmao
>>338803062
At least when Mcree runs around a corner, I die instantly.
For most characters if a Mei walks around a corner, you're already dead, but it's still going to take another 5-6 seconds.
The problem with her isn't whether she's overpowered or not, it's that she isn't fun. She isn't fun to play against, and she's definitely not fun to have on your team. Ally Mei walls are almost never helpful.
>>338802282
>Losing a 1v1 against Mei as a tank
Reinhart charge oneshots
Hook + shot kills her
Zarya outlasts and outdamages her
Winston outlasts her
Dva outlasts and outdamages her
Her freeze icicle combo literally does nothing to tanks. If you're at full HP it takes 3 or 4 headshot icicles to even kill a tank and they take so long to wind up.
Unless you get caught by Mei at low HP or you got stuck in her ult, you literally shouldn't lose to her in a 1v1.
>on defense in Egypt
>doing a good job holding the last objective
>feels like an eternity (my team was holding for around 10 mins)
>last 10 seconds
>a D.Va uses her ult and kills us all at the point
>suddenly enemy team rushes in and they won at the last second
One mistake was it all it took.
>>338804027
Post a pro mcree video
I'm not convinced that one trick pony is better than a real american hero
>>338804261
They take him because choke-point/close-quarters watch allows him to pump out damage faster than any other character. His long range is fine, his fan is the problem. Every pro game revolves around them getting people close enough to fan down repeatedly.
>Hes completely broken at close range
This the fucking nerf on Fans cooldown to a point where he cant just lean on it to win every single close range encounter. You realize the majority of top level play Mcree kills are just raw fans right?
>>338804176
You just described Reaper not McRee.
>>338804180
Well, mostly what I consider good art involves a face that actually looks like Louise.
The rest of the art is bad, at least on /d/. Really, really bad. But that was a qt Louise, I'll add that to my collection. Thanks friend.
>>338804086
See, this is what I mean. You should know when Mercy is going to try and rez. If she's not already on top of her teammate's corpses, she's got to run there or fly there. Either way, you should have no trouble stopping her.
>>338804317
I can try and find a good one showing you what I mean. Most competitive videos are just long match videos.
>>338804129
>She can rez anywhere anytime
>She can't survive out in the open
>She doesn't need to survive she just popped ulti and won the game
this is basically how you play mercy
>>338801905
I'm not one of the people crying abut nerfing everything but torbjorn turret is crazy.it's instant lock on targets make killing it without bait impossible. It should take some time to lock on like the tf2 turrets.
>>338802809
>Lucio
I'm amused how everyone thinks Lucio is fine, and also uses Lucio
>>338804182
i like this
>it's a Blizzard thinks stuns in an FPS are fun episode
lol
there is a reason why the Sandman doesn't stun anymore, it's because nobody wants to play a game where they watch themselves die helplessly over and over because of stuns
>>338803336
Tracer and Mei ults are also bullshit for the same reason. Tracers is a "You die" button with no counter play, because you sure as hell aren't going to stop her from closing the distance to you.
Meis ult also comes out instantly and can't be stopped. It also has the same problem as her M1 in that if you get so much as brushed by it, you're done unless you have a movement ability.
what is it about this game that brings out the know-it-all in players? How useful a character can be is consequential to team composition and the map. There's not one single answer as to how to deal with a character. Mei is shitty sometimes and fucking overpowered other times. Telling someone to get good is just admitting that you have no real advice because there is no real advice for every scenario you could face
>>338804467
Blame Tracer, every single annoying mechanic can be traced back to her. Rewind and blink are retarded mechanics to put on one character.
>>338803062
McCree is the most one dimensional character. Literally all he has to him is stun and dump. Its fucking not even fun to play as. I can understand why its desired in """"competitive"""" though because its a guaranteed kill.
>>338804518
>Meis ult also comes out instantly
Wrong.
Ive parried it as Genji before and fucked her team up.
>>338804525
This.
All these "Just kill her" comments are completely devoid of any thought process and just shitposting
>>338803124
>skill shot
It really isn't, it's some weird hitscan variation. As long as the crosshair is on the person when you throw the hook, it'll hit.
I'm wrecking shit with symmetra.
When the characters were first revealed she looked the most interesting to me. Then I heard all the stuff about her being shit and got pretty disheartened.
She is pretty weak but goddamn if you place her turrents right people dam near ignore them and end up getting btfo by them.
Also the teleporter is helpful as shit. Her armor buff is kind of ass, and her secondary fire on her gun is way too fucking slow but I've done the best with her out of everyone I've played so far
Her main fire damage isn't that bad though but it sucks you have to pretty much be kissing their nose to hit them
I'm glad I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would after hearing all the negative shit about her
>>338804518
Tracer ult takes a decent amount of doing/retardation to get decent results.
Mei ult is certainly annoying but Zarya, support ults and anyone with decent mobility can get out of it.
>>338804451
You know.I think all of your Louise's are very cute and I'm saving them all.
>>338804618
say no more
>>338804518
>Tracers is a "You die" button with no counter play
except there are multiple ways to counter it and make the ability worthless. Flashbang is a "You die" button with no counterplay because not even the tankiest characters can stop it and you cant use any defensive abilities
Tracers bomb wont even kill a fullhealth roadhog or reinhardt
>>338804518
I don't like mei's ult but a lot of heroes can get out of it before they freeze. I'm not going to bother listing them though.
>>338801684
Mei is fucking shit.
>oh no a hitscan character
>dies
>oh no a tank
>dies
>this shitty ass alt fire
>maybe i should use my shitty ass ice wall to impede the team and block heal beams
meis are always fucking garbage. its even funnier when they try to block the payload with her icewall and keeps moving.
>>338804596
no that's valid for chars who aren't just gimpy useless snipers outside of point blank range
if you think mei is even a little good you don't understand angles or engage ranges
>>338804315
It's annoying as shit when this happens
It should take way more time to cap a point, in return give attackers a larger time limit to cap it
>>338804618
Her teleporter helps more than people think, especially for slow ass characters, and I think her turrets could use a slight buff.
Still I think she is a bit more hated on than she deserves. She can be really useful if someone uses her right
>>338804467
I wouldn't mind if Torb's turrets had a small lock on/rotate penalty like Sentries do in TF2. The thing is, a level 2 Torb turret is way, way, way weaker than a level 2 Sentry Gun (to say nothing of level 3). Tbh I feel like Torb turrets are a nuisance at worst unless he's in Molten Core. They are easy to deal with.
Putting them on moving platforms, however, is absurd. That's some silliness right there.
>>338804596
But when it comes to Mercy this is LITERALLY the case. Lucio too, even Zenyatta. They are supports. You have to kill them.
Especially Mercy. If you don't kill her, it will take tremendous pressure to bring down her teammates without just giving Mercy a bunch of ultimate for free.
>>338804653
I pull lots of them directly from the show, so there's a high retention of her perfection. I also have some non-Louises (attached is a semi-Louise) for the occasional shitpost, also pulled from the show.
>>338804782
I wish Symmetra was a little stronger. For first point defending she's incredible, but she feels like a worse Torb in almost every other situation.
>>338802809
How can you fully trust a "Pro Scene" opinion when the only players were those involved in the beta?
That's not enough game-play to establish a true competitive meta.
Bastion's super-low TTK and exaggerated vulnerability to counters make him no fun for anybody.
He counters everyone but his own counters, which ruin him.
That kind of polarizing Rock Paper Scisors bullshit has no place in any sort of FPS game, even if switching to Scisors from Rock is easy.
Anyone that says Bastion is fine the way he is can fuck right off for riding e-sports dick.
McCree in his current state can also die in a fire.
>>338804274
That actually made me xD
Most casual fps i've seen. Overkiddies don't realize watered down it is. Blizzard knows how to make a successful game and it ain't by targeting people who like a challenge.
>take Mei out of the game
>problem solved
sending blizzard my resume as i type this
all i want is the fucking invulnerability heal to go away. its not fucking fair she can walk her fat ass on an objective and be unmovable for 5 seconds.
>>338804315
>>338804731
All capture point maps are designed terribly. Point A is always a huge choke-point but the attackers get the advantage of respawns. Point B is always 3 choke-points but the defenders spawn on top of it.
A middle neutral spawn point and more match time would solve so many problems with cap point maps it wouldn't even be funny.
>>338804315
Playing reinhart on that one tower map
>d.va ult into our team
>charge and take her and her nuke with her
>team wins the game off of it
>still no potg
I felt like a hero, that game made me realize that I should have some recording software since then highlights don't get them all.
Nerf nothing, buff Pharah just a bit.
>>338804782
>>338804618
Her primary fire not being bullets is kinda fucked up. You shouldn't have to be in someones face as a fucking support, unless you're mercy and you're in your teammates face..to heal them.
>>338804518
D.Va's shield used to absorb Tracer's ult. Not sure if it does anymore.
>>338804848
It's worth noting that 1/4th of them were also caught cheating
>>338804836I never save any pic that isn't 100 percent just her.
Sorry, I'm afraid I cannot keep that image
>>338802809
>reddit goes for the nigger
pottery
>>338804518
Zarya shield completely stops slow down
Its almost sad how much it trivializes Mei
Fuck nerfs, who desperately needs buffs?
D.va
Symmetra
Genji
Anyone else?
>>338801684
>pls nerf Mei because I am shit
>>338801905
I agree Mei is not the problem so much the lack of effort to shut her down. Every time I see her dominating in games it's because the opposition is too fucking stupid to group so they get picked EZ.
>>338801684
Is this some kind of meme? Not only does she NOT need nerfs, she's one of the three worst characters in the game.
What's with all the Mei whining? McCree is objectively the most powerful character in the game, and it's not even close.
>>338805127
h-hanzo...r-right?
>>338805048
Okay, that sounds like a personal problem. More Louise for me, I guess.
>Louise's face when you imply that any hairstyle is superior to long, pink, and glorious
>>338805145
That's not even a Mei problem. Lucio, Windowlicker, Mercy, Tracer, Torb... what you said, I see with all these heroes. Even my friends do it.
>>338805127
holy shit dude no, make your own thread
>>338805127
a good chunk of the defense classes outside of widowmaker. bastion could use a tweak too.
>>338805127
D'va needs a smaller headshot hitbox, that's it.
Symettra needs a new shield ability cause 25 is fucking garbage.
Genji is fucking fine, get better.
Zenyatta needs more HP, but less discord damage boost.
>>338804946
>give pharahs jetpack a bit less fuel but a bit more acceleration and speed
there, just turned a 7/10 into a 9.5/10 and she's still balanced
>>338805145
that's the nature of a character that's impossible to fuck up
she also has 0 skill ceiling other than getting generally better at the game and any time you spend playing her is wasted
>>338801905
>t. mercy main
Jesus that's gotta get boring. It just has to eventually..don't deny it
The only thing I really give a shit about with Mei is her ice wall. Make that shit significantly easier to break. That is an ability that should reward clever play, not something you just poop out wherever because it's essentially invulnerable
>>338804535
She's fragile as fuck and gets shredded if you can aim. Rewind has a long cooldown and doesn't go very far so you can just chase her down
>>338805161
This is reminding me of that one dark souls image
>mei is Overpowered please nerf
>you think mei is overpowered mcree is the true cancer
>any idiot can deal with mcree bastion is where the problem is at
>>338805260
Yeah, just needs a way to quickly get out of sticky situations, or slightly higher HP.
>>338805127
the fuck is the point of D.va? her hits do shit damage unless you are up close but she dies easily despite having a lot of health
>>338805319
Well, two of my best friends are very good at Pharah.
When I'm solo queueing, yeah, you better believe its boring. I usually play Tracer or Zenyatta instead.
>>338805246
I said this in open beta and I'll say it again here.
Symmetra's ability should give 25 shields, and convert 50% of the hero's non-shield health into shields. So someone with 200 HP becomes 100 HP and 125 shields.
People will tank the same damage as they already do, but in the long run people who get away from the fight will have a much bigger amount of regenerating health, which will actually make Symmetra somewhat of a healer.
>>338805225I would never imply that her long, pretty, pink and glorious hair is superior to her long, pretty, pink and glorious hair
>blizzard
>favors a blizzard character
what's the problem
>>338805348
Of all the things about mei you complain about the icewall? It's a breather for both teasm no matter where it's used.
>>338805370
Play against better Tracers. Also your statement doesn't refute the counters that blizzard implemented being annoying to deal with.
Torbjs turret is auto-lock and shoot because of her.
Mcree stun-fan combo is built to stop her(any everyone)
Mei freeze/slow is built to kill her
>>338805127
Dva is easily the worst character in the game so she could use it.
>awful ult that accomplishes nothing
>awful damage
>awful tanking
>have to stop moving just to fire rubber bullets that do nothing
her only "perk" i guess is that she can be hard to kill for good
>Favorite character is Mei
>mfw all this butthurt over her
>>338804291
>Freeze tank
>headshot it until it unfreezes
>Freeze again or heal up with bullshit iceblock thing.
>Enemy either waits for you or runs away
>Either way you win.
or
>losing
>run a bit because with the slow they'll never catch up
>Ice wall
I'm a Dva/Genji. I only harrass Mei, killing them is not worth my time. I only kill them if I'm flanking them.
>>338805235
I'm sorry. I misheard. Did you just perhaps imply bastion, of all fucking people, needs a buff?
>>338805471
That would make her busted as all shit. You either burst them or you literally can't kill them. She'd be auto-include on every single team regardless of any map or objective.
>>338801684
HAHAHA!!
Not even a week ago Mei was "low tier" and Meifags were getting the rib for loving their waifu...
... now she needs nerfed.
Fucking PvPers. This shit writes itself.
>>338804525
>overpowered
Try a different word. Like strong. Characters have strengths. A character is only overpowered only works when their strengths trump everyone else's strengths.
She gets beat by any tank (or anyone with over 250 hp). She gets beat by anyone that can outrange her or keep her away. She gets beat by anyone with good burst damage/can kill her before she freezes them. She gets beat by people who can avoid standing in the M1 for too long (anyone with a movement option).
If your character is getting hard countered by her, either avoid her or switch your damn character.
It's super annoying to hear people complain about a character being good and that they dare have to switch their playstyle in order to deal with a character. Fucking play against her and you can beat her.
>>338805472
Gosh, that is one cute Louise. Makes me feel guilty for how many lewds I have.
What do you think of Louise's sister? I don't like her very much.
>>338805496
My only complaint (compl-mei-nt?) is when teammate Meis use Ice Wall at a completely inappropriate time and save enemy lives.
>>338805529
I used to play a LOT of Mei. I could feel the anger in my enemies as I jammed their heads full of ice. My friend started playing Mei today (a week ago he spent an hour raging at me because he hated Mei so bad), and immediately felt the same way.
>>338805435
to be annoying I guess? I have never ever run into one that gave me trouble. Even as much weaker characters.
Just nerf her ice block heal that way shes less of a 1v1 beast but still fine with a team
>>338805582
Fuck, dude, he definitely doesn't need a buff. He's pretty much fine as he is.
His non-turret mode kind of sucks, and turret mode works if positioned well while easily countered by Genji, Pharah, or Reaper.
>>338802184
junkrat shits on a lot of them, but Tracer, samus bitch and cowboy bitch shit on him
>>338805525
d.va's perk is that she's more combat effective while outside her mech. nigga's never expect to die after they pop the little korean girl out her her mech.
>>338805592
>You either burst them or you literally can't kill them
So, the same thing that happens when Mercys on the team?
>>338805435
she's a character for teamplay
she does too much damage to be ignored in close and defensive matrix can make picks like bastion/torb/widow/hanzo useless on defense while her team quickly closes a gap
don't bother picking her for pubs, everyone will just focus you while your team runs in circles and you'll never get anything done
>>338805481
made me chuckle
I just got the game pretty much.
Do gametypes happen at random?
I literally have played like 20 matches and only 1 was payload or whatever.
>>338805764
Except mercy has to actually be around trying to heal them. Same with Lucio. She'd be the best support bar none in terms of keeping people going with minimal investment on her part. Now couple this with a Mercy or Lucio and the fact that you can heal shields. It'd be even worse to deal with because you have a team of people who are being healed at all times across the entire map.
This game fucking good or "fun"/ worth a buy??
>I pre-ordered brink way back and since then never went back to the TF genre.
>>338805516
>Play against better Tracers
Literally just aim better. You can 2 hit her with most characters in the game and instantly kill her with a few. She's dead within a fraction of a second in Bastion or 76's rifle fire, dying so fast they probably won't be able to react to Rewind.
>>338805645I don't like anything that isn't Louise. I especially dislike that fat princess
>>338805886
FUN ISN'T FUN YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>338801684
Yes she should. And she normally wouldn't if you didn't suck ass at video games.
You are bad.
I was honestly pretty salty about all the OW threads on /v/, because they had zero content thay wasn't shitposting and I just wanted to talk about the game, but now that they've evolved into babies crying about how much they suck, it's pretty great.
>>338805902
I'll say it again because you're not getting it. Play against better Tracers.
>>338801684
Doesn't she have zero ranged capabilities you whiney cunts?
>>338805246
>Genji is fucking fine, get better.
He is literally the weakest offense character in the entire game he is no way near fine.
I will keep posting this until you faggots fuck off
>>338805904
But just look! It runs in the family!
At any rate, you should expand your horizons. After all...Louise belongs to me
>>338805886
As a bitter, jaded TF2 fag who hates what TF2 has become, I like Overwatch a lot. Give it a spin m8.
>>338806009
Sounds like you're bad at Genji. He's gr8 m8
>>338801905
>mercy main
>it's an animeposting beta faggot
I'm shocked I tell you
>>338805991
>75 damage icicles with fuckhuge hitboxes in a 20 tick game
She's got that too.
>>338806009
genji is high skill friend ;)
maybe try someone easier since this is your first fps game?
>>338805087
Stop trying to fit in reddit, fuck off.
>>338805985
I'll say it again because you're not getting it. Stop sucking mountains of cock at the game.
>>338802809
>Reddit thinks Bastion is OP
Can't make this up
>>338806009
Way to out yourself as being shit. Genji is great.
>>338805991
I've entered a few games where people are pretty much using Mei as a sniper so no mate
>>338805902
>bastion
everybody is dead in two bastion shots, cause bliz can't balance for shit
>>338805886
You won't like it for the first few matches but then you'll realize you played 30 matches.
>>338801905
>tfw I've taken a liking to mei and roadhog
FUCK
>>338806084
/v/ does too so /v/ must be literally reddit
>>338806075
Not once did I say she was overpowered projecting image poster. Just that she's the reason for all the annoying mechanics in the game.
But please, continue to waggle your dick around on the internet with arguments that don't apply.
>>338801684
>all those nerfs
Holy fuck she'd be shit
>>338806118
Maybe use one of the million fucking counters?
>>338806009
>literally blocks projectiles
>weakest offensive character in the entire game
That's not how it works
>>338806037No, I want my Louise. Nothing else can come close to her.Then why do I have her in my pc?
>>338805565
You only get one icicle shot for a freeze. I don't understand how you get frozen twice in one encounter with her because you have more HP outright then her + her freeze heal gives her.
>Dva
Get in her face and shoot her. She won't outlive you and she won't out damage you.
>Genji
Dash through her and strafe around her to be hard to catch
If she cyrofreezes back up and snipe her with shurikens
If she ever cyro freezes just back off
>>338805127
Zarya. Definitely.
>>338806183
You didn't outright state she was overpowered but you were blatantly implying it.
I'm not the kinda guy to yell nerf but man it's incredibly annoying he that she can solo Reinhardt
>>338806330
Never once implied. Get some reading comprehension or stop swatting at invisible demons.
>>338806324
The only thing I would change about Zarya is how slow her ult charges, but it's so good I can understand it.
>>338801905
What exactly is a counter to mie?
Because I went up against a team of mei spamming freezing and walls and couldn't get within 20 feet without being frozen within a second or two from 3 mei shooting you at once.
I am not good but I'm certainly not terrible enough that I should be completely shut out. I seriously can't think of a single character that is a hard counter to a mei on defense.
>>338806009
Are you actually serious.
I've wiped the entire enemy team alone as genji, he is an absolute pub stomper. He was even worse before his shuriken nerf.
>>338806230
Because you're a thief? Beats me.I have lots of her in that Bustier, but, most of it I cannot post without being banned
I attached the wrong Louise to my last post. Forgive me.
>>338806324
Zarya is fine m8. Hard to use effectively. Once you get a good Zarya on your team, and I mean a truly good Zarya, you'll see what I mean.
>>338806408
Pharah, Windowlicker, Hanzo, Roadhog, D.va, Tracer (if she's good), Bastion
Sure, most of these will lose to Mei close-range... but that's the point. If you expect Mei to be hard-countered by close range fighters, you've got another thing coming - only Roadhog and D.va are beefy enough to do that.
>>338806394
>Tracer isn't overpowered she dies easy to most characters in the game
>PLAY BETTER TRACERS
>no, it isn't a case of playing more skilled Tracers, she's still not overpowered
>PLAY BETTER TRACERS RETARD
>>338801905
Bastion's gatling gun needs to be nerfed. It does far too much damage too fast. I can sit completely safe and see a 3 pixel wide opening where people might walk by and kill anyone with less than 300hp in the half a second they're walking by that spot
I can play D.va just fine.
Shes not a take damage or defend the team kind of tank.
You gotta fly around, flank, amd get people in 1 on 1.
Crash into people, punch, then shoot.
You're welcome.
>>338806408
shields give mei problems. stops freezing and she does no damage to get rid of it.
>>338802547
>too fuckign stupid to do the basics
Don't know why it's so hard. kill the healer, always fucking kill the healer. The HEALER prevents you from killing others because they are HEALING.
Why are yo go for the bad dps first instead of the healer who keeps everyone alive? It was the same way back in TF2, spys were made to keep healers and engineers in check since they could get through to the back lines.
>>338806324
Yeaah, buff that shitty haircut right?
Mei is complete garbage but her iceblock needs to stop being a point capture. It's the stupidest shit in the game.
>99% into overtime with .1 seconds left into point cap for win
>hurr iceblock to contest :^)
>>338806514
Hmm, maybe I am. After all I keep taking away your rare Louise pics and adding them to my collection.Thanks oniipham.
>>338806590
>hate the normal pink haircut
>the legendary goth skins are somehow worse
fucking Blizzard
>>338806365
Literally anyone can solo Reinhardt if they can keep him out and dodge his charge.
Sounds like you just don't like getting countered.
>>338805471
>Zarya can now regen three-quarters of her health
>Fucking Roadhog
"No"
>>338806525
This. It should be a suppressing fire deal, not an instakill.
Alone, Bastion's not even that much of an issue. It's when his team decides to play PROTECT THE PRESIDENT that he's an issue.
>>338806297
As I said, if the mei is smart, she will run away if im fighting her as dva, and i'd rather kill more important objectives
And for Genji
>Dash through her and strafe around her to be hard to catch
>snipe her with shurikens
If she's bad sure, but if not, she's not worth the damage I'll be recieving, I'd rather leave the Mei to a Zyra, Mcree, Hanzo, Phara, or even a Widowmaker.
She shouldn't be as tanky as she is. And Cryo shouldn't heal or at least not the amount it heals.
Fucking South America
>>338802703
>baddies gets pissed and won't switch to a counter character
Entire point is to adapt to your enemy if having trouble, not sick through on 1 character.... what an idiot.
>>338806706
Those are home-made Louises. They will always be mine, just as Louise herself is.
But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.M-maybe I could be your Louise tonight?
>>338806807
>If the Mei is smart, she will run away
If you recognize that this is what you're supposed to do, why do you struggle so much to do it?
>>338806542
D.Va is fucking garbage and is worse than any other tank in the game. She's if like a shitty roadhog and a shitty reinhart had a child
>>338806807
It really sounds like you're bothered simply because you can't kill her with the characters you like to play.
That's not a reason to call for a nerf especially when you listed a bunch of characters who can easily deal with her.
>>338806937Not only do you want Louise to yourself, you also want to actually be her?? My word, what in the world is wrong with you?
>>338803859
This sounds like some of the arguements I've heard in the part for nerfing the medic in tf2. Mercy is fine. Git Gud.
>>338801684
Aren't your bros missing you on Halo?
>>338806632
fucking this. this is absurd that she can do this shit. its totally viable just to switch to mei in an overtime situation and just sit on the point.
PSA: STOP SHOOTING ZARYA'S BUBBLE SHIELDS!
Just like with Genji, have some restraint and stop shooting.
>>338806938
No, you just suck.
>>338806938
D.Va is a harasser. Learn to play her right and enjoy that infinite life because muh "summon meka" every time you should be dead.
>>338807029
I thought after the /d/ remark this would stop coming as a shock to you. You want to talk about messed-up Louising, you go there.
Just thinking about some of that stuff is making me shiver.
Well it's been fun fellow Louisefriend, I must continue studying now so I can play more overwatch. I've been Louiseposting for far too long I'm afraid. I'll leave you with my favorite Louise, I think it's cute (and also a fair summary of season 1)
>>338807206
Yeah, this is also true of Winston and Tracer. So what?dont respond cuz im leaving
>>338803062
>Genji slash up to him
>Pop that deflect
>Baddies will fan themselves to death
>Good players will drop their stun, resulting in them getting stunned
If the former, free kills, if the latter, kite that nigga to hell.
>>338807294
It seems like a fair summary of all of it 2bf.
Farewell my Louisefriend. I hope to see you again some day.
>Meis frosty frost doesn't lower turn speed
Seriously who thought this was a good idea, why have an ability that stopped a player from aiming?
>>338807206
>>338806632
Can't Reaper and Zenyatta do the same? Can't Zarya/Winston just shield at the last second? Can't Genji just deflect all projectiles at the last second to contend? Can't Tracer blink in to start OT and rewind out?
>>338807250
>>338807248
she's legitimately bad though, anyone with explosives can kill her before she even has a chance to get near you.
>you suck
not an argument, I have never seen a D.va do a job that a winston, reinhart or roadhog can do better
>>338806708
>Not liking Arctic Zarya.
>>338807294
winston and tracer have COUNTER PLAY and can be killed off the point, its just difficult.
this is a fundamental thing to shooters, and why Mei is so fucking infuriating. she is an awful garbage character for everyone involved.
>>338807294
Also don't call her a pig whore.
It's very rude.
>>338807437
Genjis block only works for projectiles, Winston, Zarya have to physically fight, reaper dies before he can even get in there, Tracer's rewind resets OT, Zenyatta has to ult
btfo
The reason shit like Mei, McCree, and Bastion will forever ruin pubs, is because the fucking retards you play with will never switch. They all want to play whatever the fuck they want, and only that. Fuck their team wants, fuck what the enemy team picks. Which is why once a Bastion/Reinhardt/Mercy sets up shop in a casual game, it's over. Or if a really good Widow or McCree is on a team, the game is decided then and there.
Also
>Your team
>Gets fucked countered
>Never ever switches
>Their team
>Switches at the drop of a hat to shut any strategy before it even starts
This is every fucking game.
Eliminations are such shit. They're glorified assists.
>>338806009
I think Genji's reload speed on his shuriken's should be buffed. That's it though.
