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DirectX 9 games on Windows 10 (and 8) cannot use more than 4gb memory.
It works fine on Windows 7, but Microsoft intentionally crippled DirectX 9 on Windows 10 to push DirectX 12, which is Win10 exclusive.
If you "upgrade" to Windows 10, you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
Even if you buy one of Nvidia's new GPUs, where 8gb VRAM is now the norm, you will be unable to use it.
Be warned.
>wanting to play skyrim
dont know that feel bro
>>338747987
Don't be a fucking moron. Even playing something like rainbow six siege with the uhd turned on uses 4.5gb of vram. Microsoft is trying to push me to Linux idk why
>2016
>still playing dx9 games
what next, glide, opengl? it's time to move on
>not using GWX control panel
>>338748249
>>338747987
Shills
>>338747987
Skyrim is pretty neat.
>>338747789
What about S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?
Got a "Your Windows 10 upgrade will begin in 8 minutes" pop-up yesterday, despite declining the upgrade every time. Went in control panel, turned off automatic updates, removed the checkbox next to Windows 10 in recommended updates. Start my computer this morning
>"Your Windows 10 upgrade will begin in 8 minutes"
Why the fuck do they want me to upgrade that badly? I don't fucking want it and the more they push it, the less I want it.
>>338748623
I got that too.
>Source: my ass
>>338748623
Go into your installed updates, find KB3038853 and uninstall it, after the restart, hide this update.
This is the one that tries to make you upgrade to Windows 10 every day.
>>338747789
>you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim
but I can
I don't understand
>people didnt disable windows update after using dazloader
I'm lmfaoing at your life
>>338748623
http://serverfault.com/questions/695916/registry-key-gpo-to-disable-and-block-windows-10-upgrade
>>338747789
You got a source there pal?
>>338748623
They're pushing Windows 10 hard as fuck, to the point that a lot of new updates for 7, 8 and 8.1 are new ways for Microsoft to try and install Windows 10 on your computer.
My guess is, they've got plans for Windows 10 and before they announce them they want as many people as possible using the OS.
I cant believe all the people saying to just install some third party program or edit the registry. You shouldnt need to do that stuff to not get updated. Fuck M$.
>voat dot co/v/technology/comments/853510
>run script
>no win10
>>338749440
>I cant believe all the people saying to just install some third party program or edit the registry. You shouldnt need to do that stuff to not get updated. Fuck M$.
>not a single person has said this ITT
>>338749364
Win10 will be a rolling updates OS anon, so the "last" windows as they aim for it.
Get as many sheep inside, close the gates, unleash the Windows Store exclusive shit.
And who would want to be an Xbone10, wait a Windows1....whatever the two will be one and the same, a bad console.
>>338747789
>No source
>Everyone's talking out of their ass again
I hate this board.
>>338749587
Are you blind???
>>338749440
I agree, but you are using theirs software.
unless you want to use Linux
get ready to be cucked
>>338749302
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36367221
No seriously I need a source.
>>338748623
Different anon, the funny thing about my laptop is that I don't think I can upgrade it at all because the C drive is so fucked up. I have the Windows 10 box but the automatic upgrade never comes up.
>>338749702
>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36367221
Thanks but it doesn't say anything about ram or DX, I was more hoping for a source on that stuff.
>>338749642
>Win10 will be a rolling updates OS anon, so the "last" windows as they aim for it.
I'll believe that when I see it, but even if it turns out true, how the fuck are they going to make profit anymore if they're not selling OSes? Clearly they have a plan, and this plan requires lots of people be stuck on Windows 10.
My guess is they're going to try to monetize people being on Windows 10 somehow. Maybe some kind of subscription fee of some sort.
>>338749905
>how the fuck are they going to make profit anymore if they're not selling OSes?
Probably paid subscriptions for updates.
>>338749905
Most of their money comes from business licenses, the home sector doesn't bring much profit
>>338749905
Theres many many ways anon.
Ever thought how hard it would be to become the competitor of Steam?
Gog has like less than a 10% share of the market and they are the 2nd.
Well imagine that you can just "roll out" your gaymen store to all Win10 PCs at once.
Suddenly you are the biggest competitor - and they can stuff it full of exclusive games - hi gigantic and quantum shit
>>338749905
>how the fuck are they going to make profit anymore if they're not selling OSes?
Make it free to home users but make businesses and OEMs pay. Plus the money they bring in from other things like Xbox.
>>338750086
That is essentially how Ubuntu earns money for canonical (though when I checked a few years back ubuntu was a money pit, but things may have changed) - they give the OS away but sell support contracts and whatnot.
>>338749830
https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/1263324/gpu-memory-allocation-limit-on-directx9-windows-8
>>338749478
https://github.com/th3power/aegis-voat/archive/master.zip
>not just linking the github
>>338749642
Funny thing is they said the same thing about Vista, and look how long that lasted.
They aren't going to make future updates free forever like they claim. From a technical standpoint it would be impossible. But the real reason will be the fact they aren't going to give up those delicious shekels from Windows sales.
>>338750086
They're still losing a huge chunk of profit. If the claims of 200+ million Windows 10 users are true, and the average OS sells for like $100+, that is billions in lost profit.
Clearly they're not going to just throw away billions for nothing. They have some sort of plan in progress that will end up in them making much more profit.
>>338747789
I'm not saying MS isn't pushing 10 down people's throats, but isn't using a 4gb patcher the standard?
I've used it for new Vegas and skyrim when getting out of memory errors in win7 & 8.
>>338748249
>still buying every new piece of garbage because it's new.
>>338749905
>how the fuck are they going to make profit anymore if they're not selling OSes?
Selling your information to companies?
>>338748623
If you by accident upgrade, you can go into control panel -> security and update to roll back to the previously
>>338748623
disable wuaserv
>>338748623
download never10
dont have to worry about fucking with install updates
>>338747789
Weren't Bethesda games locked to 4gb anyway? So much that people had to patch it out?
>>338750286
I don't even remember the slightest rumour of vista going for rolling updates
Probably they'll sell upgrades - it'll be just the same OS all the way, probably gonna even copy the naming convention off Apple
There would be a lot of money saved for them if they only have to provide support for just one OS instead of several at once.
>>338747789
no thanks, with vulkan, we don't need dx12, it's basically the same shit but proprietary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_I8an8jXuM
look at that cpu usage
>>338748249
haha, fucking retard, opengl is as advanced as dx 11, the fuck are you talking about? your prolly too uneducated.
>>338750291
Note that they say users, not number of units sold. Very few individuals actually buy Windows, most people either have it pre-installed on their computer or just pirate it. Most of the money comes from selling licenses to businesses. The home market is all about selling Office.
I don't get it, you guys are literally getting a new OS for FREE and you don't want it?
You save like 200 quid
>>338750217
Wait, so the source on this is just a support ticket? Not trying to be a dick, but one dude's memory issues aren't necessarily indicative of MS gimping DX9. It seems like something they would do, but I'd be interested in seeing more substantial evidence.
>>338748623
That happened to my desktop a few days ago, except the second day I wasn't fast enough and woke up to it being 80% through the update process to become Windows 10.
Well played Microsoft.
>>338750508
Listen, Pajeet, I know its your job to shill things on here, but please try to gain a sense of humor.
>>338748623
>Why the fuck do they want me to upgrade that badly?
So they can datamine your information and sell it to advertisers who will then send your targeted ads within the OS
Microsoft no longer sell OS', now they sell you
>>338750618
>tfw can't get windows 10 for FREE because on linux and most recent version of windows you own is win95 and it won't let you upgrade to windows 10
it's not fair
>>338748623
>tfw I have never seen a single box demanding that I update to W10
Maybe it's because I disabled auto updates years ago.
Jokes on them, they can't update your computer if you just don't turn it on.
>>338747789
What about DX10?
>>338750807
Just pirate 7
>>338750618
A buggy spyware-ridden OS, what a wonderful chance.
>disabled automatic updates since two years ago
>MS never bothered me trying to install its botnet without my permission
>will stay on 8.1 forever
feels good man
>>338750618
I can give your wife a child for FREE and you don't want it?
You would be saving yourself from a lot of effort anon.
>>338750618
You're an idiot, have you never heard of the expression there's no such thing as a free lunch?
>>338750373
>spend $2k on a computer so you can play gamse released in 2005
>>338750898
>install OS
>turn off UAC
>turn off Updates
My routine since 2006.
Never fails, 8.1 works okay for now.
>>338750978
And what's wrong with that if the game is good? Does that hurt your consumer culture indoctrinated brain?
>>338748623
Turn off automatic updates.
Uninstall and hide KB3038853.
Did this a couple of months ago and haven't had anything about windows 10, system tray icon is gone.
They're cheeky cunts though, they republish KB3038853 every now and then to try and slip it past you.
I'm still using Windows 7 and my computer is fully updated.
>Not just not installing the W10 updates
>>338751082
This is fucking ridiculous. Why is it that we have to go out of our fucking way to NOT upgrade? How are they getting away with this?
>>338750745
I'm not trying to shill anything, microshit. It's funny, because if you read your manual you'd know not to slander opengl, it's a stupid practice. Cause opengl/vulkan is made by the Khronos Group, which is a consortium of companies including, but not limited to Microsoft, Nvidia, AMD.
Vulkan is the standart of today and the future, proprietary graphics api has no place in a gamer's life.
>>338750618
>paying for a OS
hello shill
no one in their right mind pays for a OS
I guess the reason I'm not getting these is because I haven't updated in like 2 months. I wonder if peoples systems got wiped because of the new OS install or how does it work? I would have been so pissed of that I would have shat and pissed all over the nearest microsofts office HQ.
>>338748249
>he doesn't glide
fuck off degenerate
>>338751187
Who will tell them no?
The internet police?
>>338747789
>Microsoft intentionally crippled DirectX 9 on Windows 10 to push DirectX 12
good, maybe now developers will finally start living in 2016
>>338751007
this
I don't understand the criticism against 8.1, it's basically 7 with better memory management, a better task manager and native ISO virtual mounting
yea there's the metro menu, which you can easily deactivate in the settings if you are not a retard
then there's Windows 10, Cortana is useless, "Virtual" Desktops are a fucking scam and the Start Menu is a piece of shit
>>338750508
>no thanks, with vulkan, we don't need dx12, it's basically the same shit but proprietary.
more like its the same shit but no one will use it as MS will pay devs to go dx12 exclusive. just get win 10 faggot. its literally free.
>>338750618
You can get AIDs for free too.
>using kebab currency
Don't you have a game of thrones reaction video to make or something?
>>338751198
In an ideal world, sure.
But then we have been under directx lockdown for decades.
>>338751198
>Vulkan is the standart of today
Seeing as exactly two games currently use it, that seems like a bit of a stretch.
I'm on their site right now trying to figure out how to actually contact customer support to tell them to eat a bag of dicks.
>>338750978
If i'd want a system without backward compatibility, I'd get a console.
>>338750978
I have a $70,000 car and still go for walks
Tough luck cuckieboys. Windows 10 WILL be installed on your system, and you WILL enjoy it.
>>338751308
It has its issues I'd say, but all in all it improves in places over 7 - but fails on other ones.
Honestly if you are happy on 7 I see no need to go onto 8.1, I just don't see the need to go back either.
>tfw pirated windows and it doesn't try to force me to upgrade
>>338751419
Why do you think that telling some minimum-wage customer service representative to eat a bag of dicks is going to accomplish anything?
>>338751601
Indeed - always make sure to ask for the manager first.
Won't accomplish more but atelast the CSR gets a breather and a laugh at his boss.
>>338751601
It's constructive feedback from their customers regarding their current business practices.
>5 years from now on
>win7 and win8.1 support dropped and don't even work on newer hardware and filled with issues
>most new games are UWP or dx12-only
>vulkan never took off
>none of the newer games work on Linux even with Wine due to bullshit
>Windows 10 still the latest windows that's just getting a bunch of updates rather than increment the version
will you still still be sticking to win7 by then?
>>338749905
Selling your info nigga. They already do it.
>>338751363
What ideal world?
Mobile all use opengl and will use vulkan.
Half of the consoles(if nintedo doesnt do a new console) use opengl and will use vulkan.
As well as macs will suport it.
Not only that, but windows 7 through 10 will support it as well.
We're not under "directx lockdown", it's just that devs are too lazy to develop for opengl, that means nothing most of the time, though as major engine makers do develop their engines for opengl, so in the end it doesn't matter. You can compare the list of games for Windows with the list of games for either Mac or Linux, they are getting bigger by the day.
I personally don't mind dx12, as it is the same thing as I said previously, but what I don't want is windows 10, I will never upgrade my win7, my next os upgrade will be to linux, the last time I gave up on linux, cause it didn't have codecs for hd video, that was when ubuntu was released I think or little before that.
>>338751750
Yes. No games released then will be worth playing anyway. I still have enough games to last me several lifetimes and that's just the PC library.
>wangblows 10
>>338751820
But I live in a country where the law states for someone to sell my information they have to explicitly contact me first and tell me the terms of the deal and then ask my permission to sell it.
I don't ever remember getting an email, letter or phone call from Microsoft asking me this kind of thing.
Updated to 10 six months ago, the world didn't end and everything works better and faster. Don't listen to all the paranoid retards spouting misinformation based on rumors and twisted facts
>>338751750
Probably yes.
And Valve will probably push their SteamOS if Microsoft is misbehaving again.
Honestly, the PS4, Xbone and Win10 altogether could not manifest a single game I MUST play in all this time.
I doubt they'll do so much better in the next 5 years that I would give up the freedom I have now.
>>338747789
This makes me happy
>>338751936
>GNU/Toejam
>>338751945
You're pretty fucking naive.
>>338751945
>But I live in a country where the law states for someone to sell my information they have to explicitly contact me first and tell me the terms of the deal and then ask my permission to sell it.
You honestly think they care? That is adorable
>windows updates
lol
>>338751945
I doubt your country would risk having themselves get banned from such giant like microsoft.
Year of Linux desktop fucking when? I'm tired of dualbooting.
>>338752103
>>338752053
>>338751945
>>338751820
>>338749905
>ITT: Paranoid kids
Microsoft isn't selling you're data you stupid fucks. We wouldn't do that.
>>338751838
Neat and logical on paper but when 99% of the relevant market is on windows, its logical to not bother with an opengl or vulkan version too.
These companies are saving money on everything and a version that brings in next to nothing is nipped into the bucket very fast.
So while Microsoft is baiting everyone with DX12 to get into their Win10 garden..... what is the competition?
Where is Vulkan being utilized while also offering an OS matching win7/8?
Who will make it?
Valve in Valve time?
>>338752103
>>338752176
This makes me VERY happy
>>338752220
have a (you)
>>338751950
>upgraded 6 months ago
> since then Win10 shilling propaganda just appears on my computer
>realized whenever I post one online I get 0.05 dollars in my bank account
>>338752186
Bad reply, there's no connection between windows and linux, linux is the superior operating system, just developers don't code for it as much as they do for windows, but it's slowly changing. Also linux is hard for some retards, but its way better in some ways.
>>338752176
My country sued the fuck out of Microsoft for hundreds of millions though.
>>338752376
t. microcuck
I have't =gmkl;,sdfklgkldf
I haven't updated my Win7 on my desktop and laptop for well over a year now. I had it set to only notify me that updates were available and that I had to manually download them myself.
Something strange happened last month though, and I swear Microsoft pulled a lever or pressed a big button somewhere:
My desktop is by no means a toaster, but I noticed some weird slowdown watching a Youtube video. Investigating it, I saw that a process called "svchost.exe" using half of my available RAM. Worse so than Pale Moon.
Discovered the process was related to the service "wuauserv" which is responsible for the Windows Update. I manually disabled that service, and sure enough "svghost.exe" shrunk immediately back down to 10-20 MB.
The issue popped up on my laptop about a day later. Sure enough, it was the same exact issue with svchost.exe, and wuauserv. Disabling it fixed it.
Mygirlfriend'scomputer suffered the same exact issue as well. Same method fixed it.
This thread will be dead by the time I post this, but if not, can ANYONE tech-literate explain what the fuck happened, and if it happened to anyone else with non-updated Windows 7 installs?
>>338752194
Linux is great for everything aside from content creation, gaming and CAD/engineering. Unfortunately that's what most people use desktops for.
>>338752359
>linux is the superior operating system
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Oh dear God, haven't laughed this hard in a while.
A patched up hackjob of standard-breaking shit that barely works properly half the time and needs a team of computer guru to fix it and can't even work on most hardware is the "best operating system"!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THANK YOU ANON! I NEEDED A LAUGH!
>>338752376
Fuck off shill
just let it happen, it'll be over quick
Guys... I disabled automatic updates in august and haven't manually updated.
Should I be worried?
>>338752376
hi pajeet
>>338752263
You're retarded, a bigger part of the market is on opengl, just not in games, but a larger part than you think are also dx/opengl, you just don't know it, how do you know, have you checked for all games?
Overwatch, Diablo 3, Dota2, LoL are all games that support or are opengl.
So is every PS4 game. All ps3 and ps4 games support opengl. So do 3ds and wii games(i might be mistaken on the nintedo ones).
>Don't want MS to datamine me
>I use Outlook
Fug
>>338752742
>>338752617
>>338752547
Epic shitposts. I like it.
>>338752798
What does outlook do?
>>338752782
1. Nobody gives a shit about non-pc platforms, its meaningless in this discussion.
2. So? the second most supported OS is fucking OSX man, what a great alternative to Win10 right
>>338752376
You are fucking retarded if you believe in this shit. They want your information not because they want to fap to your pictures but because they will sell it to advertising and marketing companies.
>>338752557
Windows update hogging up RAM, probably to download windows 10, what's not to get.
I disabled updates a while ago, nothing like that happened.
>>338752852
botnet
>have windows 7
>it ends up updating to 10
>been using 10 for a few months now because don't feel like re-installing everything
I wondered why my modded skyrim dropped some frames when it upgraded. Is it really that bad or could Microsoft come out with a fix to increase memory used?
>>338752595
bit even if everything you said is true, it's still better than Windows 10 and Mac
and once gamers move to Linux en masse Linux will get better
let the console fags go to Windows 10
>>338752936
What's the best way to disable it?
I swear I've done it before, but after some time, it reinables itself again.
>>338752991
>could Microsoft come out with a fix
kek
>>338751945
You agreed to the EULA and the ToS. They can do whatever the fuck they want with the information.
>>338752948
>implying using any currency does not botnet you
>>338752595
Linux works on a lot more hardware than windows.
Most finished software works perfectly on linux, ie. it's not in a alpha.
Commercial software and games are growing on linux. Web devs have been developing on linux for ages, due to its superior server/db support.
I'm still trying to find an ide better than visual studio, but I'm finding it hard nowadays to find one that is as laggy as visual studio.
What windows is missing out of the box and will never have - screen cube, package manager, interconectivity with anything without proprietary drivers, no need for preinstallations(ie. no cluttering and shitfilling), good looks, nice community, tech-savvy community
why would you need more than 4gb of ram on a dx9 game? besides modded bethesda games
>>338753007
Wanna know a reason why linux will never be dominant?
Because it can't keep up with the hardware and with it's own bugs.
Nobody in his right of mind would want to game on something that is 5 years late in hardware support and needs patches upon patches upon manual fixes to function.
If i want to play i want to install the game and play, not having to dig for a fix for whatever the fuck one of 10000000 packages is doing that doesn't go well with the other.
Microsoft instead? Click->run
>>338752595
Dumb gamerfag detected. Linux is far, far superior to anything else aside from maybe BSD for servers and embedded systems. Unix systems are generally better for coding and software development. Linux has bretty good equivalents to general Office software. The only thing Microsoft has is DX, which gives them superiority in CAD and games.
>>338750618
And when you swap out enough hardware, you can't just install that free W10 but first have to install your old Windows and then "upgrade" again.
>>338747789
>If you "upgrade" to Windows 10, you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
I literally played a heavily modded skyrim on windows 10 yesterday
You are an absolute gobshite
>>338749364
>tfw haven't updated my Win7 for 2 years or so
did I do good?
>>338753129
Never had updating re-enabling itself.
For the Win10 notification, I heard good things about GWX Control Panel http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/
or maybe this, saw it posted earlier in the thread
https://github.com/th3power/aegis-voat
+ there are tons of win10 notification disablers, just check google.
>>338752902
>Most played AAA games support opengl.
>Some of them linux/macos.
>This isn't relevant to the discussion.
You don't need to port your game to linux or macos in order to use opengl, opengl is on windows as well and it works fine and it's as easier to develop for it as it is for dx. Also, for games that are also multiplats - dark souls, diablo 3, etc, it means that there is already an opengl version. SC2 too.
>>338751308
the best part about 8l.1 is how fucking fast it is.
My shit laptop has a boot up time of 25 seconds from on button to browsing the internet and I don't even have an SSD.
>>338753450
This, I upgraded my mobo and had to buy a fresh copy of Windows. Which is better honestly, a retail copy is probably better than an upgrade. Although there's still a lot of bloat which is retarded.
>>338751950
$0.02 has been added to your MS Wallet, Pavel.
>>338750448
>>338751820
There's fuckall money in selling info btw
>>338752991
Isn't this a problem with the games themselves? It's been a while since I've modded those games but I thought you needed to download a 4gb patch for beth games?
>>338753690
you don't seem to understand what it does during shut down and boot
it doesn't really shut itself off when you shut down, it's some weird hybrid sleep and hibernate
so when you boot up again of course it feels faster
>>338750923
>You're an idiot, have you never heard of the expression there's no such thing as a free lunch?
But there is
>>338753838
That's why the two information collecting giants, Google and Facebook, are struggling in the gutter.
>>338753435
Fun fact, many CAD softwares draw with opengl, but remain a windows-only software, cause due to market research they found out most potential users are using windows anyway.
>>338753418
That can easy change with Vulkan and Steam on linux, but I really don't care about linux, I don't care if I use dx12 or vulkan, but I don't want to use win10, win7 was a shit upgrade from my beloved xp and I hate it, I literally don't see a difference compared to xp, it's the same shit.
someone post the screencaps of the guy from some 4chan board who claimed he worked on win10 and they did not know what they were doing
>>338753973
Really? I even hear the HDD platter stop and click into the stop position when I shut down.
I guess it makes sense though.
>>338753838
false, you would know this if you worked in a company that specializes in sending out not only spam but the kind of flyers and ads you see crammed in your mailbox
thank fuck I'm out of there
*unsheathes gwx.exe*
you don't stand a chance, grandpa
*teleports behind you and installs Windows 10*
heh, nothing personnel
*it was a recommended update*
>>338747789
Good thing I click "cancel or reschedule" like someone who's not a dumbass
Fuck this gay ass Metro bullshit.
>>338753683
Yes, all irrelevant as long as performance is negatively impacted.
Which it is.
And moving to another OS will also do that, because they can't support all hardware nearly as well as a company giant like MS could, because our gpu drivers aren't pushed out day 1 onto any other OS.
And because theres a thousand more ways to throw something into your wheels and make you fall over before you get to your "ideal OS with vulkan support"
Also if you can't read - don't reply either, because your last green line did not come out of my posts.
>Implying the big bad boogeyman doesn't already have all the data they want on you from your smartphone, your "off the grid" computer, your Google/Bing/whatever searches, etc.
Just upgrade already and get it over with, we already know everything about you.
>>338754358
If ya wouldn't be a dumbass you would never've gotten the suggestion either.
>last update was august 2015
>>338753353
>linux
>nice community
>any question you ask they answer with rtfm
>they don't even pointer where in the fucking manual that particular clause is
Did you try anything that jetbrains have churned out? Their PHP and Java IDEs are a blessing from higher beings. Holy shit.
>>338749654
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36367221
>>338750618
>free
this free has a massive price tag though.
the most obvious are
>they monitor what you do
>they display ads based on that data
>they sell your data to companies
Also you as a non company are basically beta testing Windows 10 for the business versions. So there's a real chance there especially if you use exotic hard/software that someday and update will brick your PC. And there's nothing you can do about it because Windows 10 only listens to Microsoft, not to it's user.
We also don't know what Microsoft is planning for the future, but as of right now it looks like Microsoft has the potential to go full apple style walled garden with windows 10. So there might be some additional costs in the future, like special versions of apps for a higher price, upgrade fees, monthly fees etc etc...
If you install Windows 10, you surrender your PC and your Data to Microsoft.
>>338750618
Why would you willingly discard this amazing piece of programming for something that looks like a glass window?
>>338751308
The same argument can be said about Windows 10 but hey just call me a shill and ignore everything.
>>338748249
Designated street shitter found
>>338754370
>Yes, all irrelevant as long as performance is negatively impacted.
It's not, though, opengl games don't run worse than dx games, they run the same.
>because our gpu drivers aren't pushed out day 1 onto any other OS.
Microsoft doesn't develop gpu drivers, vendors do - Nvidia, AMD and Intel.
>ideal OS with vulkan support
Ideally I want to remain in w7 for a few years, then move to linux with a steamos boot or something wacky like that. Literally the only reason I'm not moving to linux right now is visual studio and solidworks, not some stupid games. I play diablo 2 and dota2 from time to time and some new games. But I'm pretty okay with dropping new games if they are win10 exclusives.
As someone who games both on Arch Linux and Windows 10, here are the problems I've discovered with Linux gaming that need to be fixed before widespread adoption can happen.
>Needs more games. (This is getting better though) Wine is still hit or miss and fails at 64 bit applications.
>GPU issues with DE's, almost never plug and play. Need to write scripts to get most DE's to stop screen tearing
>Nvidia proprietary drivers dominate Linux because AMD doesn't support the latest version of OpenGL. With Vulkan this will matter less but it's still worth noting that as an AMD user you will typically be at a performance disadvantage.
>ALI/Crossfire support is virtually nonexistent. Don't even try. Screen tearing/stuttering out the ass, almost zero game support. It sucks on Windows but it's worthless on Linux. If you have multiple GPU's sell one or set up a VM with passthrough.
>Cool Nvidia/AMD features like downsampling typically aren't supported even with proprietary drivers.
>Good luck with nonstandard hardware like Freesync/gsync monitors or weird laptop tech. My bluetooth controller still doesn't work with Steam despite them saying they would add SteamOS support in January.
>Even good ports generally don't have mod support, even if they supported mods in Windows. 3rd party mods like SweetFX sort of work in Wine, but there's really no direct equivalents to a lot of popular Windows software.
VISTA WINS AGAIN BABY
>>338754652
>not spoonfeeding every retard means that somebody is not nice
Nice newage problems, sjw liberal shitter.
>>338752220
Hi Bill Gates. If I install Windows 10 will you buy me the new Doom?
>>338753690
That's because Windows 8 dumps some data on your RAM when shutting down as far as I know.
RAM ofc is a fuckton faster than an HDD, so it takes a lot less time to boot.
>>338750508
OpenGL is shit mate.
>>338749116
This thread is for the people that believe every lie they read on the internet. Find a different one.
>>338747789
I was forced to upgrade because I fell for skylake meme :c
>>338755063
I doubt that the manual has every workaround for very specific issues.
Like some packages randomly breaking/removing your ethernet/wireless drivers.
>>338749478
>voat
Might as well link to /g/.
>>338754969
In case you use AMD on Linux, use the community drivers. They're better than the proprietary ones
>>338754969
Really, theres a gigantic ecosystem of stuff that relies on Windows being the one platform it is all on.
In the worst case this'll force us onto a pile of shit like win10
But even in the best case it just fragments the market and we'll need a decade until shit comes together again.
Log onto Xbox app because I had to check something, sets computer password to my xbox password
>>338754505
>last update was never
>disabled action center
>>338755063
(not the same anon)
Installed lubuntu on laptop, on FF webms (and other embedded stuff) didn't work, needed to toggle a FF config but doing so broke flash (youtube videos).
No answer found, all posts from 2013-2014 at best, all pointed towards older versions of FF or told to install packages i already had (and the very first version to boot, not even the updated ones)
Now the laptop has died for good (was kinda old) but sure as hell i'm not trying linux again
>>338754337
>*it was a recommended update*
>>338755696
It specifically asks you if you want that. While it is retarded and annoying that they're trying to tie your PC account to your XBox account, you're equally retarded for not paying attention for what you're doing with your computer.
>>338747789
>going above win7
topkek
it's win7 or no windows at all
linux looks more and more interesting, vulkan will also help alot
>>338747789
>It works fine on Windows 7, but Microsoft intentionally crippled DirectX 9 on Windows 10 to push DirectX 12, which is Win10 exclusive.
>If you "upgrade" to Windows 10, you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
Source: Your ass
do i have to format all my HDD to whatever linux partition or can i just partition my OS instead?
>>338748623
So glad I'm not a tech retard and learn to read changelogs. Kill yourself.
>>338747789
Yeah, I saw this when I tested my VRAM with this enb vram+ram testing tool. On Windows 7 I get around 11GB Vram+Ram but on Windows 10 I only got 4GB
>>338750903
>raising someone elses child
C
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>>338752693
You have updates beyond KB3038853 so find it and delete it.
Otherwise no you are ok.
>>338756315
Nobody said I would raise him, its just a free kid for you.
Its FREE, how could it be bad?
>>338748623
>Why the fuck do they want me to upgrade that badly?
M$ makes money off of Win10 users due to built in spyware
>>338750676
if you google
"gpu memory allocation limit directx9 windows 8"
you will know people get
D3DERR_OUTOFVIDEOMEMORY
error when vram usage exceed 4GB
>>338747789
>Pester users for months to switch to Windows 10
>They say "No" again and again
>Force the upgrade unless they use some third party tools to disable it
This seems flat-out illegal.
>>338749905
I guess we'll find out once they reach their 1billion doomsday mark.
I suspect they'll just roll out ads to everyone or something. You can't even stop it if they wanted to, microsoft can make any update mandatory now and the only way to stop them on windows 10 is to not connect to the internet
>>338747789
>believing things you read on /v/
>believing things you read on /v/ with no source
>>338756495
They are above the law
>>338756205
You don't have to format the whole thing, your distro installler will let you manually partition it so you can have multiple OS's on the same drive. Just be careful you don't accidentally your whole hard drive.
Also remember to always install Windows first.
Windows Vista and DX10 came out 10 years ago. DX9 is not important to anyone any more.
>>338750768
they do that on win 7 and 8.1 too genius
>>338752376
(you)
>>338756671
And Windows Vista and DX10 were never important to anyone ever.
>>338749905
Google makes billions with just a fucking search engine.
Imagine what a company would pay to know every program installed on your computer, every word you've ever typed on any website you've ever visited, when you're on your computer, if you paid for the software you're using, and a million other potential uses from having constant status updates sent back to MS HQ.
I'd rather burn my fucking computer and live innawoods than upgrade to 10.
>>338756261
Yes, that's exactly what I did yesterday. And the "windows 10 upgrade in 8 minutes" thing still popped up today. Fuck off.
>>338756690
They're showing me targeted ads on 7?
Where?
>using more than 4GB vram anyway on DX9
>skyrim
Yeah, keep trying to find a reason cucks.
>>338756738
It's kinda funnyseeing so many games on Steam that require either DX9 or DX11. It's like developers just skipped DX10. I imagine it will be similar with DX12 to an extent. Square Enix is playing it smart by adding optional DX12 support.
>>338754704
I don't see the big deal. They have my data, they throw a small, barely noticeable ad I only see when I bring up the task bar menu. There are small bugs here and there, but I have had no issues with Win10, it plays my vidya perfectly fine and runs the programs I need perfectly fine as well.
>but muh data
Keep tipping your aluminum fedoras
>>338756943
Well it brought very little to the table.
>>338753973
>>338755226
Actually windows 8+ just has a faster boot time
http://www.techspot.com/review/561-windows8-vs-windows7/page2.html
>>338756775
They make billions with AdSense, which helps advertisers (With easy, cheap, widespread ads), small websites (With ad revenue cuts) and themselves (Obvious reasons).
Their money all comes from adsense pretty much and also Nexus and Play Store sales, I guess, but they aren't worth much
>>338756261
I have some bad news for you anon...
hope you enjoy windows 10!
>>338751007
>Turn off UAC
I remember when everyone used to recommend that, /g/ included, because it's annoying and doesn't actually do much anyway. Then a few years ago I saw a bunch of people on /g/ saying that not using UAC is retarded.
>>338750826
I didn't disable all updates on my desktop until after this shit started happening and I still never got it.
Had to delete the GWX.exe bullshit from my laptop but that was before it started trying to force upgrades.
>>338747789
In which way does directx12 get pushed if games that don't support it, nor are to be supported forever as they are very old and use outdated, buggy technology?
Let me tell you a new one.
Sega Saturn intentionally cripples megadrive games, as it does not have a compatible cartridge slot.
>>338757428
So /g/ became stupid a few years ago just like this entire site.
Makes complete sense - people who cant handle their computers should never turn it off.
To this day I regret turning it off once for my dad.
>>338747789
Name one D3D9 game besides Skyrim that uses more than 4GB
>>338747789
>DirectX 9 games on Windows 10 (and 8) cannot use more than 4gb memory.
In fact, Directx9 games on windows 7 don't even use directx9, as it is a legacy product and it is only emulated, which is what has caused bugs for people that got fixed sometimes and others not.
>>338748249
> talking shit about opengl
It's a mess of an API but OGL4.5 has the same features that D3D11 has
>>338757323
They also charge to lift limits from their API, more space in your google disk and custom domain for your gmail address.
It's amazing how much google achieved in only 20 years.
Fucking hilarious seeing all these delusional tinfoil hatting dips still trying to preach sourceless bullshit.
As if any agency or software service doesn't already monitor you and your shit, that phone you use everyday yeah..
I think it's just salty poorfags with toasters in the end who are upset over this shit.
I've yet to see any ads or issues with 10 after upgrading and I was one stayed with 7 for the longest.
>>338757428
Vista stigma
Vista asked you for everything, 7 was a lot better at knowing when to ask
People still shit on Vista when it was pretty good after SP2
>>338748249
Let's see, I got six (You)s, not as much as I hoped but it'll do I guess.
>>338748623you should at least upgrade once, then roll back to 7, so you'll have reserved the upgrade in the off-chance you ever do in the future decide to upgrade, because if you don't by july it'll have to be a paid upgrade
>>338747789
Huh, that suddenly explains why I've been having problems with Path of Exile on Windows 10 with my current settings.
Had to reduce the amount of stuff it holds onto in memory despite me having 32GB of ram, because it kept crashing when I ran mapworks for awhile.
>>338758080
>I was one stayed with 7 for the longest.
Hah!
Still windows 7 here.
>>338747789
Wait, I can't play modded Skyrim on Win10?
>>338758129
>because if you don't by july it'll have to be a paid upgrade
They're going to extend the time, just you watch they're fucking desperate to get people to upgrade
Why wont you update? Havent we been through enough? Its not fair, all we want is to make a profit sharing your information. Please update
>>338747789
>If you "upgrade" to Windows 10, you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
You wot m8? I played a lot of heavily modded Skyrim on Win10 with no issues. Well, no more than the usual at least.
>>338756943
A lot of DX11 games could run on DX10 cards with reduced features
>>338758125
Please don't antagonize the autists.
This is a safe space
Well, I tried getting one of the processes over 4GB but I couldn't. As a matter of fact I had trouble getting both combined over 4 at all, which is weird. I hit once 1.4GB on TESV.exe and 2.8GB on enbhost.exe, and that was the highest.
I guess most RAM problems with Skyrim are long-term memory leaks.
This was my first running Skyrim on Win10 anyway, this installation had been untouched since late October of last year, and it ran perfectly.
At any rate, I wouldn't write off the possibility of MS having fucked up something, they are often careless and uncaring when it comes to backwards compatibility, but this thread is obviously alarmist Linuxfag bullshittery.
>>338747789
> If you "upgrade" to Windows 10, you will no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
completely false, i recently re-installed skyrim with about ~80 mods and it works fine
I want to play KI on win 10
How can I VM or DB or make another partition?
I want to keep win 7 still not fully give into win 10, i just want win 10 for one fucking game.
If it wasn't for games i'd be using linux years ago.
>>338747789
thank god I got my windows 7 disk for install. fuck this shit im downgrading now
>>338758396
>that 6
and I don't mean the one on your post anon
>>338758396
I get over 10gb ram usage when I play Skyrim
>>338758475
Upgrade and block the following through your router.
vortex.data.microsoft.com
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
choice.microsoft.com
choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
df.telemetry.microsoft.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
telemetry.microsoft.com
watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
telemetry.appex.bing.net
telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
survey.watson.microsoft.com
watson.live.com
watson.microsoft.com
statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
compatexchange.cloudapp.net
cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
a-0001.a-msedge.net
statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
corp.sts.microsoft.com
statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
pre.footprintpredict.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
feedback.windows.com
feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
feedback.search.microsoft.com
134.170.30.202
137.116.81.24
204.79.197.200
23.218.212.69
65.39.117.230
>M$ artificially limits how much memory DX9 games can use
that's so M$ can sell you "HD Remaster" versions of DX9 games on the Windows App Store that do nothing besides unlock the dx9 limiter they put in place.
>linuxfags still upset
aww poor babbies :(((
>>338753435
>dumb gamerfag detected
>he says this as he's on fucking /v/
Get the fuck out of here you /g/ autist
>>338758685
Holy shit.
>Want to get a new laptop
>Literally every one comes with windows 10
>Some don't even have drivers for windows 7 anymore
>>338758475
>or make another partition
EaseUS Partition Master
>tfw still on win7 because the win 10 upgrade notification never ever came up
>>338748623
how can so many people get this but not me? I own 4 running windows 7 pc's, 3 of them are up-to-date with the OS, so why have I never experienced this focred windows 10 update?Is it because I live in germany?
Hey guys i dont into computer very much
Why window 10 so bad??
>>338758475
Dual booting Windows 7 and 10 is easy, both have UEFI support and use NTFS partitions (which means you can share files easily) and Windows Boot Manager is good at recognizing other Windows partitions. (It's shit at identifying anything else). I'm not sure how to do VM with GPU passthrough on Windows 7, almost every guide is for Linux. UnRAID is a great paid solution but that's probably not what you want.
>have win7
>leave PC on for torrents and go to bed
>wake up
>welcome to windows 10
>canceling and recovering win7 takes 30 minutes
Installed Never10 the instant I logged on.
What? I got Win10 and a HEAVILY modded skyrim. Take the tin foil hat off OP, it's just a operating system update. It would have been a Service Pack if everyone didn't shit on Windows 8
>>338758396
yo that game is 32 bit so it cant use more memory. blame the devs more than microsoft.
This shit is ridiculous. It downloaded the files without even asking.
>>338758129
>if you don't by july it'll have to be a paid upgrade
I assume it will still be piratable. If not then it's Linux any way. Fuck Windows 10.
>>338758947
Fucking Xavier
Lol M$
>>338758897
Try craigslist? Unless you want it for gaming, I guess
>>338759027
built in keylogger, every click is sent to microsoft, pretty much built in NSA. Never trust something "free" from a Corporate entity that's sole purpose is profit.
I've had Windows 7 for like 3 years now and have not once received an update saying to install Windows 10. I wouldn't fucking do it, but I'm feeling a little salty Michael Microsoft doesn't think I'm good enough to join his new world.
>>338759070
that worked great. even got rid of the files. god bless the internet.
>>338748249
Funny joke, but kinda mad that they kept the 8-ball color scheme instead of making it an actual 10-ball.
Wut
>>338758685
You forgot the most important of them all:
104.16.68.203
>>338758609
I'm glad someone noticed, I spent a lot of time building a PC capable of a stable 60FPS modded Skyrim.
>>338758626
I don't know what to say, I used to get massive RAM usage too. I ran around Whiterun and Windhelm (including the bridge outside for which I have a mod that adds a clusterfuck of merchants and generally knocks my PC to the ground) but it kept freeing up memory as soon as it could. At a certain point, it actually was under 0.5GB, and that was after hitting the 4.2 peak.
It must be something that builds up over time, since I spent only about 10 minutes on this and I'm not in the mood of playing Skyrim.
>>338759109
Skyrim itself actually crashes after 3.6GB because Bethesda's incompetence. What we do with modded Skyrim is use ENB to offload the RAM usage. This allows the game to go over the limit.
I run a Ubuntu/Win 10 setup. Ubuntu for general computing and Win10 for gaming. I block all traffic on the Win10 install and only allow IPs on a per game basis. So it's a bit of a pain to set up for every game but i'm about as secure as you can get on a Win10 OS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUiYyZyoOH0
Microsoft has always been friendly to the modding scene.
OP is just a shill.
>>338759248
The tinfoil is real.
>>338747789
I got fooled by this bullshit yesterday. X'ed out of the popup before it even loaded in, so I didn't even read it and notice it was different than from before. 15 minutes later I started updating for no reason, well into a good fap. I've never been so angry.
>>338759343
Down to core it's the same 8, except with more robust phoning home.
>>338747789
Damn. Does this mean Witcher 2 is crippled too?
>>338753690
>Slightly faster boot times
I never understood why this was a major selling point for people when it's such an insignificant difference. Who fucking cares if your PC boots up in 90 seconds or 30?
>>338759456
The x button is a confirmation, anonymous. It's a feature :^)
>>338759459
Yes, but MS is trying to promote it as new and exciting, so the outward appearance would make sense to change.
Microsoft did the same thing that started all of this shit storm
Windows 95.
They made a lot of companies make their PC games Windows 95 exclusive and the rest was Bill Gates history
>>338759414
>friendly to the modding scene
>no Windows apps have mod support
>can't even use 3rd party mods that hook into the executable, so no SweetFX, recording programsor framerate monitors.
>>338759417
Tell me, What does microsoft stand to gain by handing out win 10 for free besides making it easy for them to collect and sell data on mass?
>>338750136
And an antitrust suit comes down on you faster than you can say "Microsoft".
>>338759545
when is X ever not the confirmation button anyway?
unless you're some kinda weeb with reversed controls
>>338759753
Lol.
>>338750807
What are you talking about?
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10
Offers a free download, regardless of if you even own any windows products prior. There's a very good reason why Windows 10 is free and forced onto people.
>no longer be able to play heavily modded DirectX 9 games, like Skyrim.
Oh no whatever will I do?
>>338759632
It still uses flat design and Metro equivalent stuffed into start menu instead of having it take up whole screen like it did in 8. Probably an "advertisement" in the background would suffice.
What rustles my jimmies the most is that they patched a registry key that restored normal start menu and disabled metro on windows 8 and got away with it.
>>338751945
>What is a EULA
>>338759709
Fat stacks from Uncle Sam for all of the ezpz peepholes into people's private lives.
>>338759980
something that has no legal value in a court unless it is a copypaste of local laws on the matter?
I'm using Windows 10. It's alright. Looks cleaner and once you get used to it (like all OSes) functions just as good if not better. It still has a lot of shit I needed to remove, much like every bloated piece of shit OS that has come out of Microsoft. It's a shame they are doing this though.
The problem is that Chronos Group still hasn't gotten their collective heads out of their collective asses. If all games supported OpenG, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. Now it seems they are dead set on making the same mistakes with Vulkan.
There are no heroes left in man.
>>338759839
You're retarded.
The download is free, but you still need to pay for a key unless you're using the download to upgrade from legit 7 or 8.1
>>338759709
Nah, they're definitely doing it so they won't need to waste their time keeping an older OS updated, pretty sure even businesses went with 10 too.
Of course it isn't a waste of time but forcing updates like this is only giving me the urge not to update ever. I'm sure making it easier to see what people are doing is a boon to governments though.
>>338751729
I hope you have a pleasant conversation with Pajeet, anon.
>>338748623
>Why the fuck do they want me to upgrade that badly?
Because they don't want to support 5 different operating systems at the same time (Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10), especially the ones that have little market share.
>>338758109
Vista SP2 + Platform Update really is 99% equal to 7, you can even mod Aero to enable transparency on full screen windows. The only major feature missing for consumers is TRIM support, but you can use your SSD program to manually send the command every few days.
>>338759709
I don't know anon, I'm no business man. Maybe by getting people onto the latest Windows they can push other stuff up front, like their Win10 Store and Office applications.
But if you're worried about the collection and selling of data then you shouldn't be using the internet at all.
>not making your windows 7 return to glorious XP
>>338760253
It's just not the same, anon.
Shit like this is why, even though I HAVE a Windows 7 key, I'm not gonna bother using it so I can get scamware updates.
>>338752186
I know you're strawmanning but that metal box car looks SWAG. AS. FUCK.
Put some rope lights on that baby, it'll be THE car.
>>338747789
I-Is that why I'm crashing every time I get close to Solitude..?
>>338760154
>won't need to waste their time keeping an older OS updated
they already have defined support end dates, win 7 loses support in 2021 and 8 in 2024
>pretty sure even businesses went with 10 too.
Almost all businesses still use windows XP on closed systems
>>338760334
It's not, but it keeps the light lit faintly inside.
>>338760359
Install Never10 and you'll only get actual updates and none of the scamware shit.
Massive toaster piratefag here, how fucked am I if I install windows 10?
>>338760438
You do get telemetry updates which are the actual spying part of Windows 10 that got backported to Win7/Win8.1.
>>338760515
It runs slightly better than 7. I have tons of pirated shit and I haven't been arrested yet.
>>338759709
Massive adoption. I don't think you realize how expensive it is to support 3 OS in a single generation. With W10, they want everyone to use it so they can consolidate their operations on one platform. They are also pushing for a Windows Store exclusivity because they saw how massive Apple profits from its official store is.
>people don't upgrade because muh spyware *tips tinfoil*
>keeps using google and social network sites
>maybe even owns a smartphone
how do you take these guys seriously?
>>338760515
I'm sure they will sell that info too
>>338760635
>yet
>>338760253
7 is/was fine.
7 will be the last time I touch anything made by Microshit, they're a lost cause. I didn't think it was possible to become worse than Apple, but they managed it. I'll keep running 7 and make a partition for Ubuntu.
I can only hope that M$ goes down in flames in the next decade.
>>338760687
You don't, just enjoy laughing at them freaking out until they eventually forget and notice nothing changed.
>>338760687
they don't upgrade because they hate change and need some excuse to justify it while not actually caring for it
>>338759980
Anything written in a EULA that goes against a countries laws are void though.
Or else I could put a "if you download my program I can fuck your mother and kill your dog" into my EULA and have no repercussions.
>>338760873
If I hated change I would never have upgraded to win7.
>>338760687
They think they're beating the man, or something.
>>338760687
>do none of those
In the end all i win is freedom. And by god, let me tell you goys. It is oh so sweet.
>>338760889
>Anything written in a EULA that goes against a countries laws are void though.
Not if you're an Americuck.
Yeah, they accept that.
>>338750142
And the new "app store" will charge users for basic shit anyways.
Good thing even developers are against this archaic, greed-driven design of a future.
>>338760993
>do none of those
How are you posting on 4chan, then?
>>338747789
But I play heavily modded Skyrim just fine.
>>338760253
>not superior Windows Classic
Seriously. It's why I'm using 7 and not 8 right now.
>>338760683
why is M$ playing catchup with Apple
>>338760734
https://archive.is/b0mru
>// The specific idiot in this case is Office95, which likes
// to free a random pointer when you start Word95 from a desktop
// shortcut.
>>338760993
>Posting on 4chan
>Thinking the jap isn't selling your data right now
Windows VM with GPU passthrough master race. Near native performance with no dual-booting or malware issues. Only downside is it takes a decent amount of effort and you probably need a new CPU and mobo. But it's worth it once you get everything set up.
>>338761152
I don't want to go back that far
>>338760687
>owns a smartphone
>uses social media
Did you not finish your PHD? I thought nerds were supposed to be smart, anon-kun?
>tfw the update icon never even appeared to me in the first place
>>338760687
>>338760853
>>338760873
samefag harder
>>338758129
>if you don't by july it'll have to be a paid upgrade
>forced update
>a paid forced upgrade
This is what smucks really believe.
>>338760959
win7 hardly changed anything though, it's mostly just straight up improvements without any massive changes
>>338761102
superior linux
flip phone from japan
doesn't use google or facebook
>>338756514
God I actually wish someone would just make an initiative to make Linux and Mac support more games... Well maybe just Linux (Mac is already the gated hell that we fear Microshit will become). That way people have an actual choice of a platform to go to.
>>338747789
And here I thought Apple were maximum jewbag shitlords. This is a new low for Microshit. And to think I used to be huge Microcuck fan.
>>338760687
Just because I keep my curtains open doesn't mean I have to have my door ajar and unlocked.
>>338760687
I heard that Windows 10 has poor support for non-Unicode programs and fonts.
Those happen to be extensively used in eroge.
At the moment there's no fucking way I'll leave eroge behind for some lousy OS update.
>>338761339
If you post on 4chan you're using Google.
>>338756495
no one is forcing you to use windows or own a pc
>>338761102
>>338761226
I post exclusively on Nippon media, not Israel media. They will kick, they will scream, and superiour Japan will march boldly into the 22th century without either goygle or facegoy influence thanks to superiour Samurai technology.
>>338760687
None of those literally transmit your browsing history and keylogs directly to Microsoft.
I don't give a shit if Google has my search history, I can just use a VPN. I don't give a shit if some company can gather advertising data off me if I had a Facebook.
With Windows it's baked into the OS. They'd have in-depth logs of every depraved thing I do in private.
>>338761379
It will never happen with a free market and by free, I mean a free market of Direct X based games.
>>338761331
Yes, I do enjoy improvements.
>>338761210
I'm so jelly. If I wasn't a poorfag I would get on that right now. It really is having your cake and eating it too.
>>338761415
>If you post on 4chan you're using Google.
What the actual fuck am I reading?
>>338747789
>b-b-b-but W10 is objectively better in all regards
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU NOW WINKEKS?
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
>>338747789
>Skyrim
Lol. Still, that's shitty of microsoft.
>>338761605
Captcha.
Or did you seriously buy a Pass?
>>338761605
He's just being a huge faggot. He's saying since moot works for Google now, that 4chan is somehow associated with it.
>>338761415
>not paying once to get rid of captcha
>>338761415
Are we being le epic trolled??
>>338761452
Is this why the jews fear the samurai?!
>>338761403
For me it goes.
Microsoft>Google>Nvidia>Intel>Apple>can't bother thinking any anything else.
Apple is shit because they bring about annoying design decisions and have expensive stuff. But I wouldn't say they are evil the way MS and Google are.
>>338751243
Honestly the courts should. There is this thing in law that says if you don't agree to the terms you have every right to decline (your access to the NEW software will be revoked but they can't take away your access to the old because those are on old terms) and keep your access to the current software as-is.
I recently got fucked into upgrading, whatever, I thought I'd try it out, it fucked over all of my driver settings, fucked my basic controller settings and fucked my graphics card (failing to wake, bluescreens due to them moving drivers around ect) by the time I tried to downgrade it was too late, tried a fresh install of 7 then Microsoft blacklisted my Windows 7 Pro key that I bought when 7 was new, and told me I needed to purchase another key to downgrade.
Thankfully playasia has windows 7 pro keys for $18 so it wasn't a huge loss, but fuck microsoft, literally the worst company on this earth.
>>338761757
No, you're being flamed, you fucking faggot.
You lose 1 internets.
>>338761687
Except for using me for menial work, how the fuck is captcha collecting any of my data?
>>338761379
Problem with Macs are they have good monitors and bad GPU's, which is horrible for gaming. There's no point in buying a 4k monitor for computer with less graphical power than a GTX 970. A hackintosh is really the only way to game.
I thought Steam would be the savior of Linux gaming, but look how that turned out. I wish someone like Blizzard or Riot would support Linux, that would definitely attract some attention.
>>338761796
That's exactly how the W10 upgrade works. It installs W10 first, then asks you to accept an EULA, and if you say no it reverts to your previous installation and stops nagging.
>>338761605
>>338761757
>>338761835
Captcha, you mongoloids.
>>338747789
>DirectX 9 games on Windows 10 (and 8) cannot use more than 4gb memory.
I have 8 bro. You lyin.
PS: 10 is shit anyway
>>338761687
The fuck is this shit? Captcha has nothing to do with google fucking tard.
>>338747789
>source: my ass
>>338761605
>>338761757
That minigame you're playing before hitting the Submit button, you've never wondered who's running it?
Gee, for a tinfoil hatter, you're sure shit at it.
>>338759138
And even though it's shit Windows 8 is still there if you absolutely have to play some garbage.
>>338761828
>Thankfully playasia has windows 7 pro keys for $18
>paying for Migrosoft Wingdows
>>338761828
>MS fucked me over so I bought another Windows key
What is wrong with you?
>updating Win7
>ever
>All these retards who don't turn off automatic updates
>>338761959
What minigame are you talking about? Who are you quoting?
>>338757630
Sage Saturn didn't eat your old Genesis so you couldn't play them play those games anymore, though.
>>338761959
>>338761890
>hurf durf solving captcha is using google
If anything it's google that's using you. And that's in ways that's completely irrelevant to data collection.
>>338761857
combined with the fact that IPs are logged, since mods can see IPs attached to posts, using the successful captcha you solved makes it easier to identify you
>>338748249
>New stuff is always better!
kill yourself millenial cunt
>>338761924
What. You mean apart from being fucking owned and developed by google?
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html
>>338761890
Google might sell me which of their streetview pictures are real or not. Oh, nooooooo.
Or maybe i don't look at that gay shit. How dare Dare DAre DARE DARE i, huh shitlord?
>>338761924
>4chan use recaptcha rather than its own captcha
>recaptcha developed by google and functioning through google servers has nothing to do with google
what the fuck am I reading
>>338761983
>>338761982
I called them like 5 times and the last time they hung up on me. I almost ran a pirated version but didn't want any bloatware that comes with it.
>>338750826
>>338750898
>>338754505
>>338755728
I'm not getting windows 10, but jesus kids you're computers are probably extremely vunerable and filled with malware
>>338762123
>mods can see IPs
>this is somehow related to captchas
I honestly have no idea where you're going with this.
>winter of 2016
>microsoft has become even more desperate
>neverwindows10 6.2 on my PC, a camera focused on it 24/7 for me to watch the footage from my bed, elaborate peewee's playhouse contraption designed for me to disable the update from my bedside whenever I notice it
>wake up in the middle of the night hearing strange noises one day
>it's coming from the attic
>grab a baseball bat and stealthily bring down the ladder and climb up
>there's an old man rummaging about in some of my old stuff
>roar and swing at him, he teleports behind me
>"heh... you're too late... my man..."
>disappears
>I check what he was doing
>brand new hardware installed on my fifteen year old tower running windows 98
>>338761890
>>338762120
>>338762248
you'd be surprised
http://uk(.)businessinsider.com/google-no-captcha-adtruth-privacy-research-2015-2
>>338748623
The more people get their "Free" OS the more they can sell the "anonymous" data to make a profit.
AKA, fuck your privacy and fuck you
>>338762063
>tfw still on SP1 with no updates
If I can choose between a slightly higher chance of getting malware, or deliberately installing the malware myself? It seems like a no-brainier.
Just do it.
>>338762304
>installing windows updates
heh...pleb...
>>338762303
>I almost ran a pirated version but didn't want any bloatware that comes with it.
The activator doesn't come with any bloat at all. Neither does the official M$ isos that you can get off a digital river mirror site, digital river being the old official windows 7 distributor online. What are you smoking?
>>338756821
If you had done it six months ago you would be fine, Also all you have to do is remove the offending update(s). It takes literally 10 min to google them and remove them, but that is far to hard for you. Instead you bitch and moan about it on the internet. Windows 10 was designed with tech illiterate retards like you in mind, they install all the updates automatically because you are literally incapable of making these decisions yourself.
>>338762123
>they can see where you used a computer!
>stop using computers and kill them with a spear once they come looking for you
Are you too fat to operate a pointy stick, tumblr?
>>338761210
Whenever I get a GPU that can DX12 that's the plan. As it stands there's no point to now (why Win10 if you can't DX12?), but my tinfoil will be more comfy if I know M$ is only datamining what Valve already datamined in the first place.
>>338762286
Seriously though, why don't we get something else?
Why do I have to spend 5 minutes continuously clicking on images of mountains that will still give me a error? It used to be you wanted it because it was smooth and easy compared to other captchas, but now it's so fucking contrived and hard you might as well just use anything else.
>>338761863
Blizzard is already "unofficially" supporting Linux in that they ensure most of their games run well in Wine. Don't know if that's the case with Overwatch too but WoW, HS, D3 and SC2 all run only slightly worse than they do on Windows for me. I think they prefer to keep it like this since people can still play the games and buy their card packs and whatever but they don't have to put any effort into training their support people to work with Linux and such. I agree that it'd be much preferable to make it official but doubt it'll happen until Linux gains another couple % of the market.
As for Riot I have no idea desu, I thought they were rewriting their client and all the tech they use seems like it would be compatible (assuming they're throwing out the Adobe cuckware) so it seems like a prime opportunity to port it, but I guess not.
But still, "look how that turned out" is a bit unfair, I mean we are getting games like Witcher 3, Civ 6, Metro 2033/LL, etc.. The situation now compared to just a few years ago is an incredible improvement. Before Steam, what did we have? Just a bunch of indie garbage. AAA publishers would never even consider it. The last time I remember Linux having any kind of "big company" support before Steam was like, Unreal Tournament 2004.
>>338762806
>not using legacy captcha
>>338762585
All Microsoft has to do is plaster anime girl mascots all over their advertising and 4chan will download it. But no, they leave that shit in Japan.
>>338762421
They are getting paid by someone, there are still cuckholds who would be tricked by that.
But me? No. I know their game so well theid offer me eight figures just to be rid of me.
>>338761924
>The fuck is this shit?
Can you explain to me why you would act this way when you clearly don't know what you're talking about? Why? Why did you just assume that guy was wrong when you didn't know in the first place?
Do you really think you know everything?
>>338762806
switch to the old captcha
most of the time you only have like 4 numbers to enter
>>338762884
I used to but recently I've been getting words so long and jumbled it takes a team of the worlds top 20 scientist and cryptologists to decipher it.
>>338762937
>But me? No. I know their game so well theid offer me eight figures just to be rid of me.
>>338748623
I'm getting a ton of calls lately about peoples computers just upgrading to windows 10 this weekend out of the blue, and had it happen to a couple coworkers and my own machine tried it as well. This whole windows 10 ordeal is scummier then hell and there's something disconcerting about how hard microsoft is pushing 10 given that windows 8.1 came out not that long ago.
>>338749113
I've done this, disabled automatic updates, hid the update, and still had the machine automatically install that update. Shit's weird.
>>338763083
>not just clicking it until you get a number
90% of the time I just get some 4 digit shit I type in once and it's done.
>>338762858
We should probably tell blizzard to stop that since tumblr told me that linux is problematic for being too hard to understand for minorities.
which is the updates to avoid again? I'm on a fresh install of win7 and I don't want the constant win10 update shit.
I actually tried out Windows 10 just because downloading it was more convinent but Photoshop and ZBrush ran like absolute garbage in it. I was constantly having issues doing the most minor of stuff and it turns out that they overhauled the tablet interface from Windows 8 on wards and it was causing me all sorts of problems. Ever since I reinstalled Windows 7 they've all gone away, could be because I'm using a Intuos 4 but I can't imagine that would be the problem.
>>338763156
Don't you think I tried? I would spend like more time clicking refresh than it would take my to just do one of those picture ones.
>>338762304
I don't think you'll trick them that way, MS.
>>338751950
>they've been doing it before so it's okay if they do it more or worse now!
I wish everyone one of these posters dies in a terrorist attack.
>last update 5.12. 2014
kek
>>338762893
You're probably joking but I'd totally do it. I don't care. I'm 30 and I'm still here. I have no shame.
>Will have to upgrade one day
>Will have to go through the pain of backing up and restoring all my anime porno games
I fear the future.
>>338763257
I had some periods like that, but it seems to even out. I hardly even think about the captcha nowadays.
>>338752186
>Top car actually drives and works
>Bottom car doesn't move or work
>>338750485
Locked to 2gb, I thought.
New Vegas had a patch to go up to 4gb.
>>338763183
run system config and un-tick windows update service altogether
>>338763390
Don't worry, you won't have to since Windows 10 doesn't allow the fonts needed for them to work properly
>>338762858
Yeah I'm probably selling Valve a little bit short, there are a lot more ports than before it's just I get annoyed whenever there's a hardware issue with Steam or the client or game isn't working properly.
All i got from this thread is that windows 1O is probably malware. As master race this interests me but this thread will probably still be deleted for seeming to be something only /g/entoo posters would be interested in. Maybe the janitors who do it for free are all console-shills? Just a thought. And a correct one.
>>338763361
Step it up.
>>338762304
>no anti-virus
>no windows update
>computer still works great
>>338763390
I was worried about similar shit. I just want to play my heavily modded oblivion in peace along with 3dcustom maid 2 and AA2. Is that so much to ask without microsoft trying to force its swollen drm cock down my throat?
>>338763365
I'm not joking, anon. I'm not joking about anime mascots. /a/ would be all over it if there was a 400 chapter manga and an on-going anime. /m/ would get on board if there were giant robots. /h/ for the doujins, and /c/ for cuteposting.
>>338749905
The free upgrade isn't forever, and is only from 7/8 to 10. Everyone else has to pay to go to win 10. The OS isn't free.
>>338763486
I want the security updates man I need miicrosoft to protect me
>>338763390
You probably only have those Rustle doujins on your harddrive by mistake! We'll just send that off to..oh well..someone else to decide what to do with your info! Good google, goy!
>>338763709
>not having Common Sense 2016
>>338763361
>>338763537
You guys reminds me of anti-vaccine supporters.
>>338763646
>3dcustom maid 2
I will not upgrade due to how much stuff I've pumped into that game since some nips are really private with their mods.
It's a headache not worth going through twice.
>>338763701
Enough people will end up being forced to update that they will have a large enough install base to roll out whatever shit scheme they have planned and most normies and people who were too careless to protect themselves will take it in the butt
>>338763183
kb3035583
>download any MS iso and don't activate it
>log into uni wifi
>windows is not regs
>wifi pops up
>uni will offer to pay for the license for free
This works for win 7 but I wonder if I can get enterprise copies for free so I don't have to deal with the 10 botnet.
>>338763792
Why take the vaccine when it's been proved to cause autism in 100% of all cases?
The OS is yandere. Avoid like the plague.
>>338763635
no shit, youre clueless. Probably have shit mining information on your PC and sapping processing power for a botnet as we speak. It's called stealth malware and its goal isnt to alert you to it.
You're a clown.
>tfw still using 7 when 10 is now a thing
Now I know how the japs felt when they're using XP when 7 was a thing
>>338763892
Enterprise still has botnet though.
my computer installed windows 10 whilst I was having dinner last week
shit's ridiculous
I declined the Tos but I still had to wait for it to roll back to 8
dumb shit
>>338762123
>Current mod team is smart enough to read different IPs
My sides.
You forget they carpet delete whole threads with one or two shit posters?
>>338762893
>put anime girls everywhere
>pay for froms next game to be on windows but has to be ran with dx12
There, now 99% of /v/ will upgrade to 10.
>>338763981
How long do you think 7 will last until we pull the plug? I don't want to say goodbye.
>>338763785
I know not to run virus.exe but there's still security vulnerabilities through web pages and shit I don't want to accidently open the wrong page and get a virus I guess I'm spoiled by my mac!
>>338763967
>probably
Unless you're retarded you'd actually run regular scans and not open dubious files outside of a secure environment.
>m-m-muh safety
You get any malware you're as fucked as I am.
>>338763905
Because having an autistic kid is better than having a dead kid.
>>338764008
Isn't it easier to remove the botnet because its less anal about itself?
>>338763792
You remind me of a Tuskegee Syphilis Study "patient"
>>338764153
I'd take my chances. 1% chance of a dead kid or 100% chance of an autistic kid.
>>338763967
It works fine right now, and I've noticed no drop in performance. I have no personal information saved. Anything outside of that is irrelevant.
>>338764153
No, i'd rather see my dead retard pushed out of my gf than an alive one. kthx.
>>338764110
I don't even know what I'm gonna do when I have to abandon 7. It's the only OS since XP that hasn't been complete shit. Apparently making a good OS got too hard for Microsoft lately.
>>338764129
What the fuck are you even trying to say? How do you run scans without virus protection software?
You do know there are a thing called drive by downloads, right? You don't need to save and open files to get malware.
Jesus, people here are so uneducated.
>>338764115
Security vulnerabilities inherent to your browser you mean?
It won't be an issue unless you're running fucking IE.
>>338764115
change user-agent to apple when browsing the internet on windows, malware sites end up offering .dmg files to download instead of .exe
>>338764215
Maybe a bit, but I think most of that stuff can be "disabled" using programs.
Granted no matter how much you disable it still sends a bunch of information. You have to go really deep and mess around with your router and VPN's to get to a sort of acceptable level.
>>338764274
Well, you remind me of the babe.
also if Windows10 doesn't display non-unicode fonts properly how the fuck does Win10 even work in China, Korea, Japan?
>they're all literally still using XP
oh that's probably why
or are the pajeets at M$ trying to lock OS into geographical gardens? >you can't use moonrunes because you're not in Asia :)
>>338764296
>It works fine right now, and I've noticed no drop in performance.
No shit. Its stealth malware. Designed to trick people just like you. You're not running a completely unprotected PC and simply not getting malware. You have it.
>>338764331
>It won't be an issue unless you're running fucking IE
Simply not true.
This happened to me last week. I left my computer for an hour to talk with my dad. When I came back, the computer was in the middle of actually upgrading to Windows 10. The upgrade failed midway and reverted to Windows 8, at which point I decided to make sure this never happened again so I searched for solutions online and solved it by downloading and running win10wiwi.
>>338764319
I'm probably gonna go full Linux and getting a VM setup for games. Even if I have to get a bunch of hardware for it.
>>338764319
>I don't even know what I'm gonna do when I have to abandon 7
jump ship to debian stable or debian testing, ubuntu is based on debian and so is steamos, in fact a lot is derived from debian
>>338764328
Oh, I didn't actually read the reply chain. I wasn't that guy. I do run regular scans but I never, ever, get anything beyond some shitty tracking cookies.
If I want to check some download I run it in a sandbox. Literally all you need.
>>338764416
What. Unicode supports character sets from other languages.
>>338764434
>YOU GOT MALWARE FROM ONLY BROWSING STEAM AND 4CHAN
k
>>338764416
>also if Windows10 doesn't display non-unicode fonts properly
Where did you get this from? I write my moonrunes on my W10 lappy and it works fine. Garbage default font but still readable.
>>338747789
>DirectX 9 games on Windows 10 (and 8) cannot use more than 4gb memory.
thats not because of Directx 9 thats because of which they developed under, 32 bit or 64
>>338764636
>>YOU GOT MALWARE FROM ONLY BROWSING STEAM AND 4CHAN
Who are you quoting? Besides, you browse much more than steam and 4chan.
>>338747789
I understand what you're trying to do but
directx and game architecture use system memory, vram on graphics cards is different and caches frames and textures
what you said is dumb
>>338764516
But it is? Or do you have some concrete evidence of OS vulnerabilities that aren't covered by your browser?
>>338764721
>>338764741
Honestly, you think people here would be a little more knowledgeable.
>>338764723
I wouldn't bet he does. If he doesn't go on anime search binges it's frighteningly easy now to only browse Steam, 4chan, twitch and youtube
>>338764636
BUT ANON... THE DOUGHNUT AND PANIC.
Still laughing after all this time to the retards that trusted a .exe file from a Malaysian knitting website.
>>338747987
He's just bringing up an example, you autist.
>>338764319
>the install-base of 7 is enormous
>the feature set of 10 is not revolutionary or useful outside of DX12
>Vulkan works on 7 anyway
>numerous driver and software incompatibilities and irreconcilable issues moving from 7 to 10
There is no reason for anyone to upgrade. It has to be "free" because the cost to users of old, stable software and hardware is significant.
>>338764698
The Babe Ruth with the power.
I think everyone should try installing ubuntu or mint in a vm or on a partition on your hard drive. Even if you don't use linux as your daily driver, at least you have your foot in another os so if Microsoft goes full walled garden you know how to switch. Get used to Linux now so when 7 extended support dies you can switch easily enough.
>>338764636
With a computer that behind on security updates you're vulnerable without going to shady websites.
Learn how to computer
>>338764636
>>338764962
Dance magic ruth dance magic ruth dance that magic windows 10 on you!
>>338764434
>Its stealth malware.
This is great.
>>338750898
>>will stay on 8.1 forever
>feels good man
>>338765123
>implying I don't have VMs forarchandosx
>>338765130
No script would stop any and all that shit from running without my permission
and even then thats not a windows vulnerability that'd be a browser vulnerability
>>338765235
>not having a Plan 9 VM
Get out of my sight, pleb.
>>338750898
Windows 8.1 is a very comfy OS
>>338765235
Installing arch was pretty great. Ironically the only real difficulty I had was getting it to dual boot with windows.
>>338765123
Already done, but I will never abandon Win7 as my workstation while so much of the software I use is exclusive to that era of NT.
My daily may have to become Linux at some point, but I'll be keeping 7 around just like I keep my Amiga.
>>338765139
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
http://www.cnet.com/news/stealth-malware-found-spying-on-telecoms-energy-sectors/
http://invisiblethingslab.com/resources/training_usm/UnderstandingStealthMalware-program-1.4.pdf
Isnt it?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-symantec-malware-regin-idUSKCN0J70SH20141123
>>338763658
why is windows 7 the best mascot
>>338765523
Is this article going to say that Symantec software is malware? That's how I read it.
>>338748623
They wan't their modern botnet on as many computers as possible. Normies will fall for the auto-update easily.
Why? Probably wanting to build their database to have files on activities for every computer. Would make sense since NSA uses some insane search engines for their shit, so they'll be able to sell/use all that info easily.
But really, who gives a fuck. I know I don't. I just play vidya gaems.
>>338765139
>Malware may be stealthy, intended to steal information or spy on computer users for an extended period without their knowledge, as for example Regin, or it may be designed to cause harm, often as sabotage (e.g., Stuxnet), or to extort payment (CryptoLocker).
It's a real thing, anon.
>>338760180
>especially the ones that have little market share
Like 10?
>>338765523
Oh, I'm scared, bro. Hold me.
>>338765249
>No script would stop any and all that shit from running without my permission
Wrong. There is none such thing as the perfect anti-malware software. Even with kapersky and noscript you are not 100% protected from it. There are more malware writers, then there are people writing/upgrading prevention code.
You are naive.
>>338765249
noscript is glorious
fuck java
>>338765807
sucks to be proven wrong
>>338765881
>there is no such thing as the perfect anti-malware
well its not going to run if no-script doesn't allow ANY scripts to run
>>338765881
I'd like to see malware go through my browser without using javascript.
>>338765546
3 reasons why nanami is the best:
- she's cute !!
- she's an operating system !!
- I love nanami !!
>>338765685
>malware so sneaky, it inexplicably pops into memory and executes the moment you download your first packet from another computer on any port
brb downloading all the anti-virus apps
im gonna have to quit 4chan completely in about two weeks after using it since fucking lanced jack
how do i do this
>>338749905
>how the fuck are they going to make profit anymore if they're not selling OSes?
By selling the personal information of the stupid fucks that updated to Win10.
>>338766181
kys desu
>>338766181
Cold turkey.
>>338765976
>>338766014
If you haven't updated windows in over a year and you run zero virus protection software, browser exploits are the least you have to worry about.
Educate yourselves.
>>338765779
BUT LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT UPDATED*!
*Warning: People that updated may not have actually wanted to update at all.
>>338766168
You're a clown
>>338766313
>browser exploits
well I'm not gonna get a browser exploit since firefox runs automatically and I'm not gonna get a script to run when no-script blocks ALL scripts regardless
>>338766313
Here's your (you).
>>338758125
you're even more of a faggot now
>>338766410
>no-script blocks ALL scripts
Might want to look into uBlock. It'll give you a bit more flexibility on a case-by-case basis as opposed to just source un/blocking.
>>338766410
Like I said, browser exploits are the least you have to worry about.
>>338766426
k kid
>>338766313
I've been using a combination of common sense, sandboxes, noscript and regular scans for the last ten years without a single problem.
The only things that would infect me are the things that would infect you too, regardless of how updated your OS is.
>>338766313
most of the security updates are patches to vulnerabilities in MICROSOFT SOFTWARE like Outlook or MS Office
I don't use shit like that, so I got no problems
>>338750618
Because no matter what they say it's not compatible with my laptops.
>>338748623
for some reason my pirated win 7 never gets win 10 update garbage, but does get the normal updates. even though i haven't really cracked this version at all i just use a watermark remover
>>338766581
>Like I said, browser exploits are the least you have to worry about.
But your original claim that I'd get a malware installed from shady websites has nothing to do with windows rather the browser itself
No-script would block any script that attempts to run anything regardless of the website
>>338747789
>directx9 works fine on windows 7
sounds like it doesn't effect anyone with a brain.
>>338766581
o i am laffin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw
>>338766584
>common sense, sandboxes, noscript and regular scans for the last ten years without a single problem.
No shit. You're doing the things you should be doing to prevent malware. The only thing you could do better is regularly update windows.
And no, i do all of that as well as update, you're computer is more vulnerable than mine.
>>338766692
quit arguing with pajeet, one of the marketing tactics to get you on windows 10 is so-called software "vulnerabilities" in so-called "outdated" operating systems like 7
>>338766584
>The only things that would infect me are the things that would infect you tooit's a troll, anonor a very paranoid tyro
>>338750041
>>338750448
>>338751820
>>338756775
>>338766239
Actually the plan is to sell stuff through the Windows store. Also >>338750086
Also it saves money to have more people on one OS than have some % on 7 and some % on 8 and some % on 8.1, etc. Eventually they'll only need to support Windows 10, because it's their last release.
I'm not denying that they sell information but the average person's information is worth like $5 or something, they're not strictly going that route.
>>338766621
thats not true
>>338748249
>opengl
Imagine not knowing shit about anything
>>338764153
Trust me it's not. The child might be happy but your life will be over.
>>338766350
But you are forgetting all those million bajilion devices of the current and future that came with W10 preinstalled, Anon. That surely counts, right?
Oh, and let's not forget some manufacturers not providing drivers for any Windows sans 10 for their new hardware, so that even if you get a laptop without OS, you will still have trouble getting it up and running on any W that is not W10. I was truly baffled when a friend came to me with a laptop like that a month or two ago.
>>338766975
except it is true, M$ has patching ranked in tiers, theirs obviously comes first then ibm and everyone else
>>338766902
I would rather risk getting my computer infected with Malware out the ass than upgrade to that piece of shit Windows 10 where I know for a fact the entire damn OS might as well be malware.
Fuck off shill.
>>338767094
>feeding the troll
>>338767167
this thread going down in flamers and flames like it's 2005
>>338763792
Or maybe I just don't want an operating system that I dislike.
>>338748623
They want to be advertise their services to everyone possible and have everyone be on the same OS so they have to put less work (money) into making them.
MS makes way more money on their services like Office than they do on Windows sales so forcing everyone to be on a system compatible with those services where advertisements for those services are will probably lead to more sales for those services
>>338749905
i imagine something like an app store
since microsoft allready dropped their hallmark as a middle ground between linux and apple with win 8, they're on a slippery slope to becoming apple wannabes
goddamn apple has every tech company in the world wanting a slice of the juicy normie tablet pie so much they abandon their own biggest fucking distinction from apple
face it, everything from now on will be apps, apps, apps, fancy shiny touch screen compatible buttons, and last but not least horrid freemium/pay-for-no-ads wankstain
nanami is cute! CUTE!
>>338756775
You don't actually think Google (the company) is just a search engine do you?
So what are the benefits to choosing 10 over 7?
There must be SOMETHING.
>>338767841
Aside from planned obsolescence shit like DX12 there isn't.
>>338767841
linux grade virtual desktops without having to install 3rd party versions or the sysinternals virtual desktop tool
dx12
that's about it
oh and support for 2TB of RAM with OS versions higher than Home
>>338768012
>>338767930
Do I have to do a lot of shit to make it look like 7?
I figure I might as well try it before the end of the free upgrade.
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