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>>338707843
might be
I dont know which the flashbang is, I don't play mccree
>>338708245
You should try. He's fun.
>>338708275
but if i want brainless combos for brainless kills ill just playpyro
>>338708334
Ah, so you're THAT type, I see now.
>>338708334
>pyro
people still comparing OW to TF2?
why it isnt even played the same the heroes are off and comparing hanzo to the lucksman is pure bs.
lucksman / huntsman is a weapon of luck and managin to do good with it is hard. Same goes for Hanzo but his bow can do far more...
like his ulti.
>>338707614
*presses left click*
*gets play of the game*
>>338708674
oh oh iho iih he hiii iiiih
>>338707614
"hang on, let me just stand perfectly still in plain view of 4 enemies with a nice loud callout, i'm sure that'll go over well"
>>338708674
>dying to bastion
You can only blame yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlS-VtssopY
>>338708657
there are obvious comparisons, but they arent mirror images by any means
unfortunetly ow doesnt have enough depth to make it last
>damage falloff
when does it start and what is max range?
>>338708768
You have no idea how much I'd barter for a useful widowmake ON MY TEAM FOR ONCEr that could stop most obvious. loud ults
>>338708768
>implying his ult is what makes him OP
He literally has a guaranteed kill button.
Press e then shift then right mouse button.
Bam, free kill.
Now just wait for the cooldown and repeat.
>>338708805
well blizzard is blizzard and see how hearthstone turned out
>>338707614
>try out Mcree in the arcade mode brawl
>rolling everywhere and flashbanging people like there's not tomorrow
I think I'm in love.
>>338708334
Just don't play that way then. McCree is arguably better if you're good at clicking on heads at medium range and only using the combo stuff if you have to. There's nothing more satisfying then deleting Tracer with two shots.
>>338708919
It's a class-based team-based game. You're not supposed to be able to 1v1 every hero with your "main".
It's McCrees role to shut down anyone in close quarter combat.
>about to kill reaper
>presses left shift
remind me why I bought this?
>>338708919
He's not saying that his ult is OP, he's saying that anyone with half a brain could avoid the ult since he's so vulnerable and loud
Learn to read please.
>>338708919
naw man i know. his problem is that he's so fucking simple that, depending on damage numbers, will always be either god-tier or absolute garbage.
>>338709042
>y
Mercy's Rez range needs a severe nerf. McCree that got waxed by me gets rezzed nearly a mile away from where Mercy was, then "lolgg" stun/hammer combos everyone into oblivion.
>>338709091
kek
>>338708797
I got a quintuple kill using D.va's special. I don't think le die die die man is that OP.
>>338708334
>pyro
>TF2
>>338709021
It's also his role to pump out consistent mid range damage and snipe people from long range with his ultimate
>>338709034
>avoid the ult
You don't need to avoid it, just kill the slowly walking glowing le high noon man.
Good McRees can do the wombo combo and also outshoot people midrange with their regular revolver shots.
>>338709128
pyro takes skill
>>338709286
possibly, but its the least skillful of the classes
>>338707614
Fanning the hammer needs nerf. Mei's range on freezing needs nerf. Bastion's turret mode needs more spread. Zenyatta needs at least 25 more health. Did I miss anything?
>>338709139
His ultimate is hot garbage unless your team makes an opportunity for you to use it. His midrange damage is solid, but Soldier will outgun him at midrange every time due to no falloff. McCree has his niche.
>>338709336
Fanning the hammer is ok. His mid-long range damage output needs a nerf.
>>338708919
It's a team-based game.
Lion in Dota 2 can just press R then click somebody to instantly kill a huge portion of the cast at level 6. And that's not including the damage from his stun if he stuns you. Not everybody is supposed to be equal 1v1 in these types of games. It's not a fighting game.
>>338709336
stop running around solo as genji and go help the team instead of trying to get your KDA up
>>338709145
>playing on that one payload map with the foliage at the end
>I ult while standing behind it since it's doesn't count as blocking but McCree's ult still locks on through it
>mfw High Noon like 4 guys behind a bush they can't see me through
>>338709425
Okay I'd actually nerf flashbang a little bit then. Maybe half a second less stun?
>>338709336
Zenyatta is fine, he's pretty strong already in good hands.
>>338709336
D.va needs everything
>>338709479
Then it would be a 0 second stun.
>>338709474
But I mainly play a tank or Zenyatta depending on what my team needs. Every game seems to be 5 dps and me being a tank or healer trying to keep shit together.
>>338709461
theres hard counters, and then there's a press of a button
>>338709504
I agree. I just don't like the combination of needing LoS to using his orbs and widowmaker one shotting him with a body shot. Maybe take 25 damage off of widowmaker's 100% charged shots?
>>338709021
so much for reaper
heh watch this kid
*spins around
DIE DIE DIE...
*kills eveyrone with dual shotgunz*
heh that was easy...
*turns into a ghost and soars away*
>>338709539
really? i've been getting pretty good spreads of 2 tanks, 3 damage, and myself as mercy or lucio. i did end up on a team of 4 people OLOLOL WINSTON STRAT xD but that's the only garbage i found
>>338709390
>but Soldier will outgun him at midrange every time due to no falloff.
Soldier 76 has falloff - all the hitscan "gun" classes do (except for Widowmakers assault rifle for some odd reason). At medium range Soldier's advantage has more to do with his speed (wiggling soldier is hard to hit sometimes), heal and burst damage from his rocket. That said, if McCree can click on heads then he can still win almost any offense vs offense 1v1 seemingly out of nowhere.
what's this mcgree combo I keep reading about? I just got the game, still in training mode testing every hero and its abilities
where's the cheapest place to buy this in the UK? can you only buy it from battlenet?
>>338709510
How? She's not really bad if you know how to use her. It's super easy to get multikills by boosting then using her ultimate. Boosting into people then meleeing them is also pretty effective.
>>338709504
>support that's expected to be near the frontlines to be effective
>has a massive hitbox and the least health in the game and zero mobility
>fine
He dies to a charged widow bodyshot, he is not fine. Why does fucking Lucio get 200 HP, constant regen, a speedboost and wallrunning while Zen has fucking nothing to help keep himself alive? Even Mercy can fly around a little.
>>338709474
>stop running around solo as genj
But that's what Genji is supposed to do.
You flank and harass enemies, leaving them with a choice to either turn back on the rest of your team, or risk their health being whittled down by your shurikens.
You charge your ult with harassment, then disappear letting the enemy team forget about you, and then you cut them to pieces when they're busy dealing with your team's attack.
>>338709662
Key sites but its shady
>>338707614
ITS HIG-
IT-
ITS HIG NO-
ITS HIGH NO-
>process repeats
>>338709643
you press E and then you right click on the head
>>338709531
>Stun Time: .7 second
Wow I didn't think it was that short... maybe just reduce it .2 seconds. It's just slightly too long.
>>338708674
Played for almost 7 hours straight once the servers went up and only saw one Bastion PotG, and it was someone on my team.
I generally make short work of Bastions.
>tfw still can't get the hang of McCree even though I want to play him a lot more
>tfw my friends make me tank all the time since I'm good at them
>tfw just wanna be a cowboy
>>338709613
Reaper is still a better tank-buster if they have more than one, and especially if they have more than two. McCree can blow up any tank in isolation but if you're playing KotH and getting piledrived by monkeys then Reaper's sustained close range damage is going to be a lot better.
>>338709613
Reaper isn't a frontline fighter. He's more of a tankier and slower spy/scout. You can't oneshot people with your shotguns, you have to catch them off guard and be able to get a few free meatshots on them.
>>338709727
Don't need a tank when the whole other team is dead anon.
>>338709727
>mfw my life is the same
>>338709710
>right click on the head
Fan the Hammer can never headshot. Aim center mass.
best class that is credit to team for a total beginner?
>>338709817
Lucio is pretty helpful even if you're bad and he's very powerful if you're good. No team will ever be upset that you picked Lucio because every team needs at least Mercy or Lucio.
>>338709817
Lucio
You benefit the team just by being near them and alive, if you can shoot some people that's icing.
>>338709815
>Fan the Hammer can never headshot
I'm pretty sure that's wrong.
>>338709817
probably zarya. shield yourself, shield your allies, right click for big aoe damage, set up your team to murder them with your ult
>>338709817
Lucio if you need a healer. 76 if you need dps (and he has pretty good heals too desu). If you suck don't be a tank. Nothing sucks like a bad tank.
>>338709862
>Mercy or Lucio
Being Symmetra or Zenyatta is suffering
Why is nobody playing Junkrat? I've been getting PotG since the servers went live on maybe every third match, just from spamming bombs in the general direction of a chokepoint.
The bear trap is a free kill, the mine has a short enough cooldown to be used basically as a main weapon and you can't get close to me because fuck, I'll just ALLAHU AKBAR us both anyway.
AND his Ult is a Team Kill by itself if you know where you're putting it.
>>338709945
Blame Tracer and Genji, since they were so good with healing orb or armor that Blizzard had to nerf Zen and Symmetra.
>>338709662
Good ol' Tesco my chum, I already have a £6 voucher from buying whiskey with that shit Tesco card thing, it's gonna be £40+ everywhere, It's £42 at Tesco
>>338709817
bastion or lucio
>>338709915
No, it absolutely cannot headshot. It's still 70 damage per hit at close range, so it doesn't need to headshot to kill almost anything.
If it could headshot you could kill Reinheart with a single FtH without even having to roll-reload and do it again, and since most tanks have huge heads it wouldn't even be hard.
>>338709921
>Zarya
>beginner friendly
No. You need to constantly keep your energy high, otherwise you're better off just playing Rein and holding down rmb for the whole match.
>>338709989
i was wondering the same. i always do well with the guy, and the few that i see are scary as all hell.
>>338710014
They're both still amazing in the right hands. There is a reason why competitive teams are running Zenyattas even with the nerf.
>>338709989
Literally every match has a Junkrat/Mei on the team.
>>338710030
Hm, you might be right, the wiki says the same.
But I could swear I've seen the red headshot indicator when I used it. Maybe they changed it or something.
>>338709989
Does he have any good skins? I think he's a solid (hero?) (character?) (soldier?), and has a noice potential with swanky plays
>>338710034
>>338709921
Zarya is definitely not a beginner character. Her entire playstyle is about balanced aggression, game sense, and knowing who can do what to whom at any given moment so you can counter it with the right timing. A new player's not even going to know what everyone can do much less when they're going to do it. Also, her laser's not the easiest thing to aim since it's pretty much just a point target hitscan.
>>338709474
>killing the enemy doesnt help your team
Spot the "pybro"
Buffs and nerfs needed:
Bastion: Not able to turret on top of moving objective
Mercy: Revives herself too
Symmetra: Ceiling turrets should be visible with sniper chick ult
Its what I have so far.
>>338710090
The only niche Zen has now is making a single target dead very quickly with Discord. He's great as a counter to the monkey, who is also very popular in comp for his disruptive potential.
>>338709325
I'd argue that heavy takes less since you just hold down left click and medics just magnetise to you and providing you actually play the game you can unlock an item that heals most of you or your medics HP.
>>338710101
Literally zero matches I've been in have a Junkrat before I pick him, and I've been waiting since the end of the timer just to see if anyone wants him. But I'm on EU so maybe we're just shitty over here.
>>338710102
If you played in very early beta and MAYBE the first stress test a bunch of things could still headshot that can't anymore. Even Zarya could headshot at the very start of the beta, shit was so dumb. I'm pretty sure that was changed by the first stress test though.
I made this mistake myself for a while but believe me you'd hear a LOT more bitching if FtH could headshot. You could just throw out stupid yolo right clicks and hope one of them randomly plinks the head and get kills basically for free at medium range.
>>338710164
Literally kill yourself on the first two, Symettra I could agree on.
>>338709336
damage dropoff on mei's right click
buff pherra to 150 health/50 armor
make junkrat's mine do damage to himself
increase damage on winston's ult
buff 76's ammo to 30 rounds
give reinhardt a quick melee
increase spread on widow's auto rifle mode and charge time on sniper mode
increase lucio's rate of fire
increase mercy's rate of fire
reduce spread on dva's mech guns
>>338710164
>Mercy: Revives herself too
That is easily the dumbest suggestion I have ever read.
>tfw you high noon at the same time as an enemy McCree does and kill him first
>>338710164
>Mercy revives herself too
that is unbelivably retarded and op, the only thing that makes her ult balanced is the fact that it cant do that
Bastion is already one of the worst heroes in the game
>>338710236
Maybe it's because I played the minute servers went up and everyone I played with knew the beta inside and out. But literally every team has a Junk/Mei combo. They may be defensive characters but they do way better than most offense characters and do not die.
>>338709989
>never played Overwatch
for a odd reason, i can't get my mind off RoadHog once i see Overwatch gameplay,
>Soaring across the map as Mercy
>Those bone-snapping noises when you hit or kill somebody with your hammer as Reinhardt (occasionally followed by double/triple/etc kill)
Is there anything more satisfying?
>>338710404
Do you want him to goosh goosh your boyhole
>>338710403
For real. Junkrat's my main now I think. Haven't seen a single Mei yet. Not one.
>>338710330
>damage dropoff on mei's right click
It does, though. It actually has more aggressive falloff than McCree, it goes down from 75 to only 22 at max range.
>give reinhardt a quick melee
Since quick melee allows you to animation cancel any other previous action that would be really broken. He could do 105 burst damage basically in an instant.
>>338710164
Nah to all of those. You have no idea what balance is.
>>338710476
mei is like a slightly slower to the draw mcree what with the freezing you and ice spike headshots.
survivability is nice though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWIYYDCZ7YU
>>338710481
The simple solution is to make Reinhardt's left click not melee-cancelable.
>>338707614
>tfw playing as medic in tf2 was satisfying and its actually rewarding through helping your team
>now playing as mercy i feel like healslut and constantly have to run away from rapes because mercy can't defend herself for shit
>>338710462
Oh god no,
its just weird how fat characters easily become my favorite out of that game/show.
>>338710529
She does do 75 instead of 70, though, which means 150 headshots which means one-shotting Tracer if you randomly land one. It's actually a big deal sometimes.
It also means she completely shits on Zenyatta, but that's hardly noteworthy.
>>338710585
What's the point of it then? If you can't melee quickly it's not a quick melee, and you're just swinging for less damage after the same delay.
Honestly I don't see why he even needs one. Rein's melee is already crazy good.
>>338710481
>He could do 105 burst damage basically in an instant.
so when reinhardt does it its broken but when roadhog does it it's by design?
>>338710330
Just fix the damn netcode and half of these things won't be problems. You have no idea how many times I get killed as pharah when I'm already in the air, but the game was so laggy that I was basically afk on the ground and an easy kill.
>overwatch is so cool yay megusta new better tf chichi
braindead game for brainded failures of real fps games
>>338710685
Yes because Roadhog is largely shite in every other area. He moves slower than Rein, can't stay alive and is the world's biggest target.
>>338710685
Roadhog doesn't have a mobility option and no giant fucking shield. His close range burst DPS and high health are all he has going for him.
>>338709336
I agree with none of those.
>Fanning
Only usable if McCree sits RIGHT in your face. Keep some range on him and he is mostly harmless. If he runs away into a building, for the love of good don't chase, He will sit around the first corner with his stun ready.
>Mei's freezing
I don't think so. Either use a movement ability to get away from her or shoot her in the face, Usually you can force her into her Iceblock, she is quite squishy. Same rule as for McCree. Don't run right up to her, that's where she is most dangerous. (you wouldn't stay in an open field when a Sniper sits on a tower, so why hug a close quarter fighter?)
>Bastion Spread
I know it's sometimes annoying when you get caught off guard by a bastion but really that should only happen once at best. Bastion has one thing he does well: Deny an Area by laying down hell downrange. Don't step into that area if you want to live Nigga! Most people fail here because they're too much in the mentality of "I picked this hero so I'm staying with him" This is the time to switch to a different hero!
>Use Reapers TP to shoot him in the back,
>Snipe him with Widowmaker
>Lay down some explosive whoop-ass with Junkrat or maybe Pharah.
If you're D.Va you can hold your E out while you fly into him. Or just plain throw your ult at him. If he's shitty you can usually get an easy kill thanks to Genjis deflect.
Basically: If Bastion is racking up kills, that means someone is playing like a god damn retard and just keeps running into him DSP style and then yelling "THIS IS BULLSHIT".
Remember for Overwatch: If something doesn't work out? Switch it up!
>Zenyatta
Sounds reasonable enough actually, alltough I'm not sure if it's really needed.
>>338710672
Useful for finishing off someone who isn't high enough to warrant a slow melee I guess?
>>338710685
Roadhog's combo is the only thing he has going for him. 90% of the time he's a liability to your team because he's just a big fat ult-charging battery for the enemy to build off of. He doesn't actually prevent damage the way all the other tanks do.
There's a reason why Reinhardt is the "standard" tank choice you usually build around. Blocking damage is always better than healing it after the fact in this game.
>>338709715
I played for 3 hours and saw at least 5 bastion PotGs. That said, it does seem way more even. I saw a Symmetra and a few Mercy ones for the first time. I also got one as D.Va because self destruct triple kill into team wipe with pistol. Most of the people I saw getting PotG did deserve it though.
>>338707614
Which one is the most embarrasing?
>DIE, DIE, DIIAAAGHGG
>I GOT CHUU IN MY SIAFHASFH
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM AAAAGH
>IT'S HIIIIGH NOOOooooooo
>[tank noises] [system error noises]
>MOOOOLTEN COOOUUAAGh
>RYU GA TEKI WO KURAAAAGH
>RUJIN WO KE WO KUREEEEGHhh
>>338710741
>play Hanzo
>fire frag arrow at Roadhog's feet
>he dies instantly every time
He's such a fatass target
>see Bastion camped up on a ledge in turret mode
>grenade his dumb ass
>pop up to the ledge he was on, put a bear trap in plain view, mine on the wall by the door
>few seconds later, get the alert that my trap was destroyed
>detonate mine
>Bastion comes flying through the air at half health
>grenade his dumb ass again
I love Junkrat
>>338710782
>keep some range on him
Maps are too small, too lienar, and capture zones/payloads are clusterfucks. Have you even been playing in groups? Every fucking game, there's a mccree with 20-25 fanning kills.
>>338710782
I concede that the top one is dumb and the other two are arguable, but extra health on Zen would mean a world of difference. Just a little bit more would put him out of one shot range by widowmaker and a lot of other damage ranges. He has no mobility and needs LoS so it seems fair.
How the fuck have they not nerfed Mei since the Beta?
I don't have trouble with any particular characters other than that fucking chink.
>holds left click for a couple seconds
>you are completely frozen
>she gets a free headshot, killing you
>manage to out maneuver her or get the drop on her
>start going ham, she almost dies
>she hits left shit
>completely invincible and immovable, heals back her health
>throws her ult
>your on the edge of it
>lol too bad, the slow is so strong you cannot run out of it before your completely frozen
What a fucking joke.
>>338709581
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Dying To McCree Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Guy Like Nigga Keep Some Distance Haha.
>>338710887
Is it part of the balance that characters announce their ultimate skill?
Because it just seems retarded to me.
>>338710887
Because of how Bastion's ult drains if he dies before he finishes trainsforming or even just slightly afterwards he doesn't lose any ult%. It doesn't even begin to drain until the animation is completely finished so killing him as he's transforming only delays it.
>>338710945
>See Mei
>pick Pharah/Roadhog/Jungrat
>laugh
>>338710740
I feel like it's more like super smash brothers than a first person shooter
But it's more of a first person shooter than it is a fighting game
>>338710945
The real problem is healing herself. Her ice should be absurdly vulnerable when she heals. It's one thing to have a self heal like bastion, it's another thing to basically have an invincible tank on a defense unit.
>>338709862
>no team would be mad when Lucio thinks he is some hot shit DPS punk and constantly dives into the enemy team solo without strafing or wallruns, and spends most of the game dead I.E. not healing
A rubbish tank or healer is more disruptive than a rubbish DPS, because one is a backbone, and the other can still create momentum by pressing Q.
>>338710658
It's because you're transfatget it?
>attacking, London map
>enemy team has Hanzo
>RYUU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU every 30 fucking seconds
I'm already starting to feel buyer's remorse.
>>338710976
yes
imagine how OP McRee would be if he had no sound indication for his ult
>>338711052
It is fucking horseshit and broken.
It is basically roadhogs self heal, only it also makes you invincible.
Have one or the other Blizzard, holy shit.
>>338711057
Good DPS is actually make or break in a lot of game it seems actually. You can get away with just decent tanking or healing, but you NEED good DPS to get anything done.
>>338709669
I've played quite a bit of DVa and it seems that she really shines when you use her mobility. Most people don't expect you to fucking jet up to a roof and plasma gun them in the face. Defensive matrix is a little slow cooling down but it can be really helpful if you use it correctly. I too feel like DVa is fine.
>>338711090
I mean, you already move slow as balls and glow like a fucking light bright.
>>338711090
>pick Dva
>as soon as you see an arrow launched from a location thrust boost into that area
>freshly served Hazno with vegetables
>>338710025
>>338709935
>>338709921
>>338709874
>>338709862
Thanks bros, god I'm hype, can't wait for my download to finish
>>338708797
>Soldier 76
>Not just headshotting Reaper with the Triple Rocket
>potg is mccree missing 5/6 shots, then completely missing 2 fans, then finally getting a single stun+fan kill
>>338711084
>complaining about an ult that is extremely easy to avoid
>>338708797
disliking for shilling own video
>>338711157
meant for
>>338711084
>>338711174
not when you're getting funneled through an alleyway, it's also grating hearing it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER gain.
>>338711057
While a stupid Lucio pressing his ult at a bad time is really frustrating damage dealers that just don't kill anyone and die for nothing are always more frustrating. At the end of the day it's an FPS and in an FPS you gotta kill the bad guys.
>>338711052
You have literally 3-4 seconds to lineup a headshot on her fat face the second she comes out of iceblock
She either quickly uses it to dodge an attack, gets very little healing but leaves herself less vulnerable, or stays in, heals herself, but 9/10 times gets skullfucked immediately when it ends. It's perfectly fine as is.
>>338710976
Yes, they even announce it differently from friendly versions, so that you don't get confused.
Everyone feels like a really noisy spy in this game. Its a headscratcher how it can be competitive when any decent FPS player should be able to pick off the idiot announcing his ult with a few headshots.
>>338711052
>>338711124
it also makes her a sitting duck for Widowmaker/Junkrat/Roadhog/Hanzo etc.
get fucking gud
>>338711173
>play of the game is widowmaker getting a headshot on phara while slowly aiming throughout Pharah's ult and doing literally nothing else
This actually just happened to me, in a game where reaper got 3 quad kills and a Mercy revived her whole team twice
>>338710645
>can't defend herself for shit
So just like TF2 medic then?
>>338711289
No, it is proper shit.
It shouldn't heal her, the invincibility is enough.
>>338711259
>>338711289
If you have 3-4 seconds to wait for mei to emerge while ignoring every other enemy, you're playing against scrubs.
This is the stupid shit about balance. You all talk about the game in a vacuum, like every fight is 1v1 even though its a team game where it's very hard to kill people quickly without ults.
>>338711174
Good Hanzo ults don't give you the opportunity. The best way to use it is the scan arrow a wall that you know enemies are somewhere on the other side of and then drop it RIGHT on that wall so the dragon literally spawns on top of them. There's spots on every map where you can do it if you're sneaky.
The arrow that turns into the dragon actually even goes through walls and can headshot people before the ult activates.
I'm not saying it's OP, but saying it's always easy to dodge isn't exactly true if you're playing against someone that knows what they're doing.
>>338710645
Her gun and melee attack can be pretty powerful if you use them at the right time. Players will always leave themselves exposed around Mercy (low health, standing still, etc), because she isn't usually focused on killing people. I've successfully defended a number times, even winning against people I should not have.
I found she excels when the whole team is loosely together. That way you can soar from one person to the next. Since she is so mobile and can still use her staff when out of LoS, you can also grab the medpacks from around the map pretty easily.
Is there no way to select what game mode you want to play? Really?
I don't want to play CP, I want to play payload
>>338711271
>Its a headscratcher how it can be competitive when any decent FPS player should be able to pick off the idiot announcing his ult with a few headshots.
What is teamplay? It's a lot harder to pick off the McCree charging up HIGH NOON when there's also a pissed off Winston jumping around in ult slapping your shit. Or a Pharah shooting off her ult while shielded by a Reinhardt.
>>338711417
They should add this eventually. I prefer control over other types. Hypest fucking shit happens on control maps.
>>338710645
>>338711350
Mercy actually does 100DPS with her dumb gun, with headshot capabilities.
She defends herself far better than the tf2 medic.
>>338711373
The thing is though, most Hanzo players are pretty bad. I can count maybe 2 or 3 ults that were actually placed well throughout every match I have played today.
>tfw getting commended as symmetra
makes my peepee hard
>>338711560
Right now, yeah, even the good Hanzo players I saw today didn't know the game in and out. With the MMR reset the matchups and skill levels were all over the place.
>>338711541
The TF2 medic is actually more mobile than everyone but the scout without needing teammates around though. If your whole team gets wiped in TF2 you're not going to automatically die if you're a medic whereas you will as Mercy.
>>338711518
>control map
>pick Junkrat
I know I'm in for a good time.
>>338711586
It's worse if the only other person to commend was a torb's turret kills.
SURE DO LOVE PLAYING RING AROUND THE ROSIE WITH REAPER AS MERCY WHILE NOBODY FROM MY TEAM HELPS
>>338711560
That's because a lot of bad players play characters that get them easy PotG. There are a lot of bad Mcrees, Reapers and Hanzos despite the players being really good in the right hands.
>>338711368
>Mei iceblocks anywhere where she's remotely exposed
>Iceblock ends
>Widowmaker casually headshots her, or Roadhog casually hooks her, or McCree flashbang and fans her, etc
If her team is covering her, sure, she can survive. But she's not accomplishing anything in that case, so you've effectively neutralized her impact at zero cost to yourself, especially since the ice block gives time for your team to maneuver away from her so she can't do shit when she gets out.
>>338711586
More likePOO
>>338710909
I disagree. I feel like every map has enough open area to not be in McCree stun range. If he's really wrecking the team why not try to counter him a bit more? A Widowmaker headshot or two body shots will straight up kill the guy. Throw in some Ice Walls, fly up and kill him with Pharah from range, Use your reinhardt shield. Bully him a bit. He has almost no defensive abilities and will go down like a bitch. It's the Bastion problem all over again: "Nobody does anything against this problem, so it's just mowing trough our team"
>>338710927
I guess that would be nice but I hate to admit, as much as I hate Widowmaker, I guess there have to be a few targets that she can one-shot. Such is life. Or some day we end up slowly removing widowmaker from the game by slowly upping HP until she becomes less and less viable to do pickoffs.
You could consider pairing him with Symmetra. The shield will move him out of one-shot range, giving you chance to react.
>>338711678
I really need to work on getting a premade together because of this shit. So many games where nobody is on objective and nobody actually cares to work together.
>>338707614
>Not pressing triangle
>Lose 5 games in a row because of retarded teammates
>Then get thrown into 2 games that have 5 seconds left before we lose
Oh man, I hope ranked doesn't turn out to be like this because if it does, I'm gonna be so mad.
>>338711464
>a lot harder
As compared to spy instagibbing half your team from behind quickly and quietly? While a heavy or soldier distracts from the front?
Spies are already plenty shit on the merit that if you shoot them, they die. Noisy spies that yell out ballagoos and shit before striking? If the autistic cs:go community moved over for a day, they'd murderrape every single one of these dumb streamer wannabes. By actually hitting things in the head when they shoot.
>>338711721
>symmetra
>poo in the loo
kys
>>338708674
UNGA
>>338711541
I think when he said she can't defend herself, he meant that when your team gets wiped because they're garbage, you're going to get wiped too. It's pretty hard to escape with her. The biggest bullshit about medics in general is that they're too easy to single out. Tf2 medics were a nightmare to get rid of, especially with uber.
>>338711713
Again, you're acting like this game happens in a vacuum.
>>338711736
But since there is no team deathmatch, all maps have objectives and thus close range clusterfucks. You don't even need to get a direct hit with the stun for it to work. It's absolute horseshit, there's 2 mccrees on every team.
>you will be removed from the match if you remain inactive
>stuck in a eternal loading screen
had this shit happen in beta, blizzard pls fix
>>338711771
In the beta at least people did actually communicate and try to build decent teams and counter-pick. People that didn't give a shit just kept playing Quick Play since the only thing getting better ranks got you was bragging rights.
That said Ranked probably will have rewards if it's gonna be a 2.5-3 month long season like they talked about today in the Q&A so we probably will see retards clogging up games, refusing to change heroes, etc.
>sneak up on Mei
>headshot her for good damage
>she instantly heals and stays safe while her teammates protect her
or:
>she instantly turns around, freezes you and your aim becomes too slow to finish off her little sliver of health left
It's just retarded how good her survivability and close range kill ability is
And then you have McCree's flashbang which means easy close range kills with no skill whatsoever needed
>>338711052
>play reaper
>chasing Mei
>she blocks.
>sit myself outside of her block, behind her.
>aim right at her fucking head
>4 secs are up
>dead Mei
This or something like this can be done with almost every fucking hero. Fucking hell, She only has 250HP. if she was made vulnerable during that time you would change her "OH SHIT" Cooldown to a "IMMA FREE KILL" Skill you fucking retard.
This isn't CoD. Play around the enemies abilities. Why do people not get that?
>>338709989
Because he isn't cute/cool.
>>338711980
is his grenade actually a flashbang, meaning it has an effect on enemies even if it detonates some ways away from them, or is it some concussion nade that requires more or less to connect the thing to the player directly?
>>338712025
You can repeat yourself all you want, but overwatch is not a 1v1 game. Fucking mercy can kill most offensive heroes in a 1v1. You're missing the fucking point here. In the middle of a large fight, mei can repeatedly heal herself while turning in to an invincible tank that, at worst, forces you to stop whatever you're doing, hide, and hope the rest of the team doesn't counter you while you wait for someone to switch to widow and ohk her. Oh and you'll have to keep doing this repeatedly since it's not even an ult.
>>338712120
It's AoE. You can hit multiple people, pop it around corners, even throw it above Rein's shield if he doesn't react in time (and it's practically impossible to react in time).
>>338712209
Dang sounds OP as fuck
>>338711825
objectives and thus close range clusterfucks.
Fuck you can still play around the nigga. Just pick Phara or Junkrat or Widowmaker or Genji or Reinhardt or Hanzo or D.Va and fuck him up.
What the fuck are you guys doing? Just constantly running straight into the guy? HE HAS 200 HP JUST FUCK HIS DAY UP NIGGA.
>>338712298
It's pretty frustrating sometimes, but it does have counters. Genji is really hard to deal with as McCree if the Genji is good enough, and his damage falloff is bad enough now that Widowmaker and Hanzo can really fuck McCree up if they just don't get close to him.
McCree is probably the "best" all-around offense right now but he's not a silver bullet. Really good Genji and Tracer players can just run circles around him and Tracer in particular does INSANE damage per second at close range (I think it may actually be the highest in the game other than Bastion).
>it's a Bastion behind Reinhardt episode
>>338712424
You act as though these mccrees are just running around on their own without any help. Everything is easy to kill 1v1 you stupid fuck. The issue is when certain elements combine into unstoppable waves. For instance, you want to hear the dumbest counter by far? Genji's reflect is actually the best counter to pharah's ult. You can block fucking rockets, which is absurd, and instantly kill her mid ult. All genji has to do is run into the blob you're shooting at and you're fucked. Ult denied, try again next time.
Certain combinations are really exacerbating the poor balance of heroes. With the exception of a few weird ones like zetyanni, almost everyone is overpowered in some capacity.
>>338712207
>fag is convinced that the worst character is the game is secretly op because he's a casual shitter that can't just kill her
every /v/ overwatch thread
>>338712425
I think Tracer is going to get nerfed because right now, she can solo kill anyone except Mcree or at least force a draw.
>>338712425
Genji isn't that good against him, the flashbang makes short work of him anyway. If Genji deflects the actual flashbang he's stuck in the deflect animation and can't capitalize. Swift strike lets you cancel it but then McCree is already out of stun.
>>338712651
If they do nerf her I hope it's something like a small damage reduction and nothing more. She's a tricky character to balance well and any nerf could easily make her garbage.
>>338712298
He forgot to mention that it has quite short range: https://youtu.be/agb-nlbdb40?t=44
you can't really throw it any further than that. basically "If you can spit on it you can stun it" and lasts for less than a second. It becomes a real fucking danger if you're retarded enough to run after him into a house or around a corner. other than that, it's fine. It's like getting caught by a Roadhog hook.
>>338712638
Bullshit. While some heroes do make for strong combinations, you can always fuck them up. You can ALWAYS fuck them up. I had teams where I said "fuck they're playing so much better than us, better co-ordinated, better reactions" but I NEVER had a game where I said "Fuck this combo is unbeatable" because there is no such fucking thing. You just need to git gud.
>>338712832
>Bullshit. While some heroes do make for strong combinations, you can always fuck them up. You can ALWAYS fuck them up. I had teams where I said "fuck they're playing so much better than us, better co-ordinated, better reactions" but I NEVER had a game where I said "Fuck this combo is unbeatable" because there is no such fucking thing. You just need to git gud.
This man speaks truth.
>>338712832
You've never seen a zaryu ult with a hanzo ult?
What's the lore implications of it being possible to have multiple of the same characters in one team?
>>338712970
Yeah I need to "git gud" with two entrances to the next part of the payload push. The map design is absolute ass.
>>338712739
I'm not sure she needs a nerf. She's a glass canon kind of character. With 150 HP she is quite fast to kill, You just have to hit her. I quite like playing against tracers.
I Imagine she's pretty shitty on consoles because of the turn time on analogue sticks. You blink past somebody and then you turn like a fucking ship.
>>338712638
Genji's deflect will have the same accuracy as whatever hit him, and Phara's ult is pretty inaccurate so it's not that simple
Besides, Genji's strength is turning the enemy team's defenses against them. If a Genji hears IT'S HIGH NOON then he should try to deflect those fagbullets back to mccree
>>338709989six hours played with junkrat
i got high noon'ed when i was already around the corner. come on bliizard, you are filthy rich, invest in better tickrates or whatever
>>338713058
>I'm not sure she needs a nerf. She's a glass canon kind of character. With 150 HP she is quite fast to kill, You just have to hit her. I quite like playing against tracers.
Yes and no - she can die to very quick burst damage quickly, but Recall means her effective HP is usually more like 250 since she'll usually use it around 30% or so.
I randomly got queue'd against some of the "pro" players a few times during the open beta and those motherfuckers are insanely hard to pin down and burst on Tracer. Every time you think you're about to get them, even if what you're doing is split second burst, they manage to react fast enough to recall out and leave or fuck you in the butt.
Honestly, the only real glass cannon in this game is Zenyatta, which is weird since he's support.
>>338713048
> two entrances to the next part of the payload push
please tell me which part of which map does that, because I've never seen that happen
>>338713048
Where is that
>>338713250
>>338713058
I should also say I don't really think she needs a nerf either since at the end of the day really, really good tracking does just flat out beat her.
The only character I'd actually like to see nerfed is Widowmaker. Bodyshotting people to death is so stupidly easy in this game. Headshot damage should be the same, but bodyshot damage should be like 75-80% of what it is right now.
>>338713298
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
This part is so fucking stupid. Just leave the fucking gate open.
>not high nooning to force the entire team to take cover so you can push the payload then cancelling and keeping 50% ultimate
>want to play Winston
>is a giant gorilla in a mechsuit
>has worst gun in the game
>gun is weak and has no range
>his 500 gets torn through quickly
>Ultimate just pushes people away from you so they can shoot you
>shield defends against like 1 shot
What the fuck.
>>338713452
4 entrances actually
>>338712984
Or Zarya ult plus Junkrat shots/ult
Or Zarya ult plus tracer ult
Or Zarya ult plus Pharah ult
Or Zarya ult plus Reaper ult
Or Zarya ult plus Reinhardt hammer hits
Yeah, Zarya ult makes for some strong combinations. But chances are if you're getting caught in it, and a DPS is near, you would have died anyway. No need to throw in that Hanzo ult. It's FAR from an unbeatable combo. Plus it has a ton of downtime. If your whole team gets caught in it, you might have done a retard.
>>338713508
>implying all heroes can jump up to the second level
>implying randoms will go a different way
>>338713058
>Hitting a Tracer
lol
>>338713589
a good bunch of them can and there are stairways up there anyway!
>>338713589
There are stairs up there...
>>338713636
You still have to go to the hill part and get fucked repeatedly.
>>338709461
this is wrong, lions ult at lvl 6 does 450 raw damage, considering lion is usually played as support he gets lvl 6 around 7-10 min mark, at that point everybody in the game except supports and retarded carry with midases have ~1000 hp. Lions stun doesnt do much damage either, in any case, you arent going to kill anyone from full hp alone, unless you hit lvl 6 real fast and you are targeting another squishy support.
On the other hand mccree can kill a fucking roadhog by pressing E - right click - shift - right click.
Also when the fuck is ranked coming, this game is unplayable garbage without any "skill" based matchmaking, unless you stack with friends
>>338713482
Stop fighting tanks. Leap behind everyone and assassinate the squishy healer in the back. Drop your bubble and leap away. Leap in and out of combat, it's a pretty short cool down.
And zap that retarded Reinhardt to your heart's content because he doesn't realize his shield doesn't work against you.
who else /autistically saving loot boxes/
>>338713452
>that
>two fucking entrances
are...are you blind? or just completely retarded?
>>338713589
>implying all heroes can jump up to the second level
There are stairs up there you complete and absolute retarded idiot
kill yourself
>>338713452
>t-there are only two entrances
there are four
>>338713589
>i-implying you can get up there
there are stairs
>>338713697
>b-but the hill
holy shit stop making up more and more excuses just to cover up your shitposting
pathetic
>>338711084
L O N D O N
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N
D
O
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why is torbjorn such a meme
>>338713482
it's because idiots like you think that Winston can just jump in 1v5 and get kills instead of getting blown up in a second
stay with your fucking team
shield your fucking team while harassing nearby enemies with tesla
if a squishy character is near half hp jump on him/her and get a kill
rinse and repeat
use ultimate when the enemy team goes for a large push only
>>338714225
what the fuck is the point doing that?
>>338714638
>new skins come out
>playing Mercy
>team is just fucking trickling into the enemy team
>keep spamming "GROUP UP WITH ME GROUP UP WITH ME GROUP UP WITH ME"
>our Reinhardt says "fuck we're getting demolished"
WELL I WONDER WHY YOU FUCKING RETARD
FUCK! I can handle losing, it's when I lose because my entire team decides to trickle instead of grouping up that gets me super salty.
The fuck do you think you're going to do 1v6? Score some SIK MLG KILLS BRA? Fucking idiots.
>>338713482
While winston can get some kills, He really shines in area denial. The wild ape is what you use to clear people from the spot and send them running so you can cap/prevent capping.
When playing overwatch, try not to think in terms of "how can I get the best K/D?" try "How can we best take that capture point" "How can we best push that cart" The Objective is so much more important than plain kills. You can go 20-0 and still lose because while you were playing Call of Duty someone else just took the objective. Happens on Hanamura a lot
>defenders go up to the enemies spawn
>engage in a fight there
>defenders kill and go past
>easy first point.
So yeah, Try to go for the objective over the kills. It racks up points too!
>>338714694
that is actually a fair point if the loot crate's content is not pre-determined
>>338714746
just switch to Lucio in that situation, and press in with boosted speed
team is guaranteed to follow you
>>338714750
>How can we best take that capture point
But standing on a point is boring, getting kills is fun. And no-one got POTM for standing on a point.
>the only character i like playing is roadhog
>sometimes the hook goes nuts and the target is pulled behind my back
>can't one shot him
>die like a scrub
JUST
>>338714876
>stay on stairs
>hook someone
>they stop at the bottom of stairs
>they run away
thanks
>>338714843
I suggest you go play CoD then instead, since this game is clearly not made for you
>>338714843
actually standing on an objective is a multiplier for POTG points so almost all POTGs are on points
>>338714746
Excuse me, but I'm TRACER the MASCOT CHARACTER. I can definitely take on a bastion + rein + mercy + 2 reapers sitting on the payload by running directly at it.
>>338714936
>see a soldier
>right click into hook into left click into melee
>he doesn't die, drops his medic and survives
JUST
Mercy should have a suicide button called Mercy Kill where she shoots herself in the head with her own pistol when you're stuck with a team of retards. Just to stop the enemy team getting the satisfaction of killing you.
>team has no support
ok let me pick one
>Lucio, aka wins the game by existing but your weapon is literally the least satisfying thing in the game
>Mercy, aka group up with me! group up with me! group up with me!
>Zenyatta, aka holy shit Blizzard just make the orbs distance based
>Symettra, aka I should be in defense but Blizz needs to pretend we have more than 3 support options
Sombra can't come soon enough.
>>338714876
That's to make up for every time you hook someone around a corner, through a wall.
>>338715113
>Lucio, aka wins the game by existing but your weapon is literally the least satisfying thing in the game
Learn to right click.
I've seen a lucio knock an entire team off a bridge with his right click in a highlight. That shit is CASH
>>338715129
Nothing more satisfying than dropping a big, fat left click right on Tracer's slag face
>>338715201
Hiiiighly situational.
>Team has two fucking widowmakers
>Play Winston
>25 fucking kills
>Multiple triple kills
>We barely fucking won thanks to me being the sole person on the team bothering with the objectives and an amazing Mercy backing me up while our two Widowmakers remained useless
>Play of the Game went to a Junkrat camping the spawn at the start and getting a whooping two kills
I'm beyond fucking furious right now.
>>338715454
Nooooooot really.
Have you actually looked around the maps? Each map has at least one area with a LOT of ledges and dropoffs very very close at hand.
Fuck there's a giant hole in the middle of one of the Greece maps. And Nepal has a control point with a fucking bottomless pit all around it. Lucio is KING on those maps.
>>338715504
>caring about PoTG
Autism.
>>338713974
To be fair my anti-Drow strat still works with lion
Even if she gets some moderate str items she can still be R-Q-AA to death at 6
Same with Nyx, you can really take drow to pound town with heavy nukes
Even easier with a Zeus mid thats paying attention
>>338714694
You're fucking retarded. If that happens, they will drop from NEW loot boxes that are the only ones that can drop new stuff.
Open them boxes faggot
>>338715504
PotG are there for comedic value - they're hilariously bad, and irritate autists.
>>338710150
>hitscan
>not the easiest thing to aim
I agree with you except this part. It just doesn't make any sense.
Zarya really shines when you have an actual team, preferably friends with voip communication. Her ult is the best setup your teammates could ever ask for their ults. And her shield is only really useful if your allies you put it on actively get in the harm's way to keep you charged.
>>338709619
its like they seriously took those memes and put him to a physical form. i want to see some cosplays of this character in the next year or two
>>338711327
POTG have different categories. That was a "Shutdown". The game decided Pharah's ult there would have been incredibly profitable but Widow shut it down.
There's a category for across map snipes (Sharpshooter) and one for racking up kills in quick succession.
This game should be cheaper.I can afford it, and it's no problem to me, however, I find it terribly stupid to do so, as the game has microtransactions, just like CSGO, Dota 2 and TF2. I'm fine with free games selling skins and the like, as long as it doesn't affect gameplay values other than looks. Why would I waste money on this? It has nothing else but a few maps (though, it has many characters) and a few gamemodes, there's nothing else to it.
>>338709619
Real talk though, Reaper feels like a living incarnation of "so bad it's good"
Not saying the edgemaster psshnothingpersonal is COOL, but it's so ridiculous it's funny in a charming way.
I love how he just whips out TWO NEW SHOTGUNS from his jacket instead of reloading his old ones. That's just so ridiculously over the top it couldn't possibly be made to be taken seriously.
>tfw you like McCree but are kind of shit at aiming wth him
How do I get gud? Can't seem to hit jackshift.
>>338707614
>justice rains from above
>heroes never die
>death comes
how come you´re not cringing all the time at the bad fucking dialogue? also none of the guns sound like guns there´s no balls to any of this overly polished turdy wannabe Unreal gameplay
ew/5
How to fix McCree and make him more fun at the same time
>Shift doesn't reload gun
>Cooldown reduced to 4 seconds
>Can shoot while rolling
Done. He can now be mobile in fights and saving rolling for double Fan isn't a thing
>>338716149
>aiming with Mcree
Get close, hit E, right click.
There's literally nothing more to Skillcowboy.
>Sees Bastion hunkered down shooting everyone
>*Presses E*
Psst... Nofingu Perusonaru
>>338716204
That's the least you can do with him. Although pretty easy to pull off, yes.
But his revolver is really strong at mid range too.
>>338716048
Yes that seems to be the general consensus in every Overwatch thread.
>>338708919
>He literally has a guaranteed kill button.
>Press e then shift then right mouse button.
There's more than a few who could come out on top if they're not on cooldowns already. Roadhog and Genji come to mind.
>>338716314
>That's the least you can do with him.
m8, that's so insanely effective that there's literally no point in trying to engage in a midrange fight.
Go flank, hit someone as they round a corner and instantly kill them. Why bother taking chances at range when you can literally just instagib anyone with two button presses?
>>338716208
He really needs a fedora skin
>>338709139
McCree isn't great at midrange. He's best at little ambushes around corners and shit at point blank range where he can e>rmb. Where he truly shines is around a corner.
>>338716385
>genji
>surviving being Skillcowboy'd
hue
Roadhog, D.VA, Reinhardt and Winston, I think, are the only heros who can survive a full on Skill to the face. Iffy on Zarya. Anyone under 400 dies.
>>338716048
I don't get these types of comments. Sure its overprized. Sure it does not bring anythin completely new to the table. But this is fucking blizzard ffs. What did you expect? They have NOT invented a new game format but they have taken the TF2 model and polished it so it feels both competetive and fun. I understand why people call it overhype but Blizzard has done a good job doing what blizzard does... look at hearthstone and diablo 3. two of the biggest games in their genre
>>338716385
Genji doesn't exactly counter McCree's combo.
If you reflect the flashbang, McCree obviously can't follow up with fan the hammer. It's an awkward situation.
>>338716385
>playing genji
>reflect mcgriddles pocket sand
>slice through him and finish him off with a melee attack
pssh
>>338714876
>tracer walks up and ults me
>just take it like a man and hook her
Feels good to be the king.
>>338716612
>reflect mcgriddles pocket sand
>slice through him and finish him off with a melee attack
But that only amounts to 105 damage, and McCree has 200 health.
>tfw just want to spam rockets but 80% of the time end up babysitting the shortbus as lucio or mercy
>>338716640
As a Tracer I fucking hate when this happens.
Her ult is so weak compared to any other ult in the game. Extremely short throwing range and a small blast radius and not enough damage to even one shot a tank it stuck to.
>>338716048
>It has nothing else but a few maps (though, it has many characters) and a few gamemodes, there's nothing else to it.
just like TF2 when it first came out, except it had even less character variety
>>338716887
ofc not you idiot your their to harass everyone else like bomb their turrets or bastion and gtfo not 1 shot a fucking tank
Zarya is really fun, but basically unplayable without Mercy or maybe Zenyatta on your team.
>>338707614
*Mexican Mission intensifies*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9q8DwBBus
>On demand, easy to land stun
>Complimented with the ability to deal enough damage during that stun to kill most characters
Good ol' Blizzard balancing
>>338717119
>bomb their turrets or bastion
Don't reply to posts ever again.
>>338711271
And that's why the CoD YOLO crowd dies so much in this game. It's not like there's an indication where the ult is coming from, just a loud announcement. If you didn't realize mcree was behind you where would you look? So far the only ult I've seen consistently shut down is junkrat's and that's mostly due to people not knowing that the tire can climb walls.
>>338716487
He can hit reflect once he's out of stun and then put some stars in you to finish the job.
I've had it happen to me, and done it myself a few times.
> We have to go in together!
>Proceeds to run off to the side and get their shit fucked by a Reaper
> WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING ME?
These people are braindead.
>>338716887
Oh man yeah it really sucks that Tracer can't 1 shot tanks...
>Triggered
Zenyatta buffs when?
>>338717173
the trick I found to playing Zarya is using your long-range attack constantly instead of your default attack, it does way more dps
>>338717173
Don't try to act like a meatshield, you're too squishy for that.
Save your retarded teammates with well timed shields, and keep your energy high to melt enemies with primary fire or bombard them with alt fire. Then set up someone else's nuke with your graviton ult.
>>338717302
>He can hit reflect once he's out of stun
He's not getting out of the stun.
If the Mcree isn't shit, he throws E and immediately hits fan the hammer, which does around 400 damage.
>>338717315
>buff HP to 300, no shield aspect
>His heal orb is now a damage share, any damage dealt to your target is halved and you take the other half. Heal rate is slower but heals both of you.
>Got 2 Play of the Games
>Still no 5 Player Acknowledgment
>>338717173
Mei syngerizies surprisingly well with her but you can't treat Zarya like a normal tank.
>>338716805
he had taken damage prior due to my deadly precise shuriken
>>338717315
i dont understand this he is already op. if they buffed his health they would nerf everything else, like being able to kill literally anything at any distance in four hits and heal as fast as mercy across the fucking map. learn how to use his ult, you are support not an army
>>338711627
You do know Mercy can fly and jet around right? She has the same mobility as Phara.
>>338710947
>Hear it's high noon
>Get behind cover
Do people really have trouble with this?
>>338717492
what is even the point of acknowledgement? you don't seem to gain anything from it, is it basically goodboypoints you cant spend or some stupid shit?
>>338717483
shitty idea.
>>338717358
>it does way more dps
No, it doesn't. Not on ONE person at least.
Don't get me wrong, I advocate using her alt-fire a lot simply because of the splash and being able to arc it, but go test it yourself.
It takes 2 full seconds to kill a training bot. It takes five shots, which is a FULL MAGAZINE and a RELOAD of alt-fire to kill a bot.
It definitely does more damage if it hits a couple people in the splash, though, but if it's you v 1 person, use regular fire.
>>338716640
>tracer sticks you
>pull tracer back hold her tight against your chest while the bomb ticks away
>she struggles against your muscles but to no avail
>screams right before she implodes into a shower of gore around you
>take a snort of that good stuff and get back into the fight
She couldn't handle the whole hog
>>338717627
They're both pats on the head for autists.
>>338717627
I don't know, I just want to hear the announcer say "EPIC" and then Genki's response.
>>338717381
I'm aware, but she's still based around being in the thick of things so you're going to get hurt no matter what and since you don't have the stall/escape power others have if you don't have a proper healer there are many better picks.
>>338717783
>being in the thick of things
Not really, alt fire range is really long.
And she's not any more based around that than any even less tankier offensive or defensive hero.
>>338717561
Then nerf his offensive qualities. I'll take being weaker offensively any day over dying to someone looking at you badly.
>>338717603
>Play D.Va
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE!
>Look up
>press E.
>Laugh my ass off.
>>338717561
Just make him faster. Gods sake, that's the only thing that's crippling him.
>>338717915
fuck that, its the only support with any good damage capability at all
>>338717915
Fuck you. They already nerfed the orbs, and if you want to be a healslut just pick Mercy or Lucio. When I pick Zen I do that do wreck the enemy team,including tanks, not to babysit retards on my team.
>>338717880
If you're just sitting there spamming alt fire then you're a shittier junkrat. Her main abilities are entirely based around being where people are shooting. Of course that doesn't mean just wade out into the open, but she should be on the front line.
>>338711768
Confirmed faggot.
>>338718010
>>338718098
>I play the pacifist zen buddhist monk robot to wreck face, not support the team!
>>338718168
>I don't get his point and I want him to be exactly like every support
He's fine as he is damage-wise and health-wise. If he wasn't slower than a glacier he'd be way more dangerous.
So after playing today I was browsing when I realised Overwatch has console versions.
If one thing stood out to me during my playing today, it's that I ahve to snap aim and turn a LOT in thisg ame, people are flying everywhere and flanking. So I decided to hit up twitch and find a console streamer see what it was like on consoles.
I felt physical fucking pain. This game does not work properly on consoles, it's slowed to a halt, classes that flank a lot are being used as frontal attackers because they can't zip around and be quick with controller turning. Watching Bastions and Tracers try to play properly was a terrible experience. Genji was a joke too.
Why the fuck did they even put this on console, it works worse than most FPS games on consoles.
>People think it's his ulti that makes him OP
No, stop being bad.. It's the flashbang and fan the hammer primar- I mean alternate fire.That no-skill cowboy needs to get gutted. Lucio is the only one who comes as close to being OP but even he's not as cancerous since you have to have some map awareness/knowledge to zip around
>>338718146
Obviously I don't mean spamming with 0 energy.
But you don't have to jump in front of a Bastion or McCree to get charged. You can shield Pharas or Tracers with suicidal tendencies, or collect stray bombs of an enemy Junkrat with your shield up.
You don't have to (and can't) block thousands of damage with your shields. They charge up pretty fast.
They should make Mercys ult range a little larger, make it refill slower.
>>338718168
It sounds strange but he is a very offensive support, except his hp and speed is a let down
>great attack/alt-attack
>orbs that don't require constant babying so you can focus more on shooting shit
>ult that negates most other ults entirely
then all of a sudden
>lowest hp in the entire game
>>338718324
I love posts like these, you can easily tell who the poster mains.
Who's the character that requires the least skill to use? I'm shifting towards Mei since all she has to do is press lmb in the opponents general direction
>>338718303
Making him deal a bit less damage while being capable of taking a bit more would do nothing to change his playstyle. At most it would mean you have to land one or two more orbs to kill someone. And the point of the Discord orb is to buff the damage output of the team, not only you.
>>338718442
Lucio.
>>338708334
>but if i want brainless combos for brainless kills
that covers all of Overwatch
>>338718442
Lucio and Soldier 69
>>338718457
>it wouldn't change the playstyle
>therefore it should be changed anyways
what a stupid idea of balancing you have. and even then it would change his playstyle. you seriously think being able to take more damage WOULDNT? having so little health is probably the only reason zenyetta is even near his teammates for most of it's users. he is support first and his current health is a good way to enforce that
>>338718431
I don't main any one character but I play Dva, Junkrat, and Genji the most closely followed by Mercy,Tracer, and Hanzo
>>338718303
His point is to heal and debuff enemies to take more damage. His point is not to be offensive, at all. The fact that he can be played like that is just a testament to the awful balancing job Blizzard has done with the game.
>>338718545
Let me guess, you're one of those kids who think they can easily get a free potg by just pressing Q?
I can't count how many times I've heard JUSTICE RA-argh and the like.
>>338718457
Then just say you want discord's debuff to be lowered and not the orbs. A slight speed boost would be the best thing for him.
>>338718442
Id say Junkrat honestly
Mei's need to be quick on the trigger with the Ice Block spell shit and this usually determines a good Mei from a great Mei
Junkrat can be helpful simply lobbing grenades across the map, the trap you just toss down in a unsuspecting place, and his ult is pretty easy to use if you know where the enemy is at
His sticky mine can be used for more advanced stuff but even then he is pretty simple
>use it to jump
>use it to push people
>finish off jumpy tracers/genji's
S76 is pretty simple as well
>rifle
>sprint
>medkit
>aimbot
>>338718712
he is perfectly well balanced. a capable fighter who can die in two shots from any unit. stick to your teammates shitter
>It's HIIII-UHHH
>>338718712
So I guess Symmetra should be re-classified as a defense hero instead of masquerading around as support.
>>338718657
You know how I know you're bad?
>>338709032
this so much
reaper is an assassin class with an integrated "woopsie, made a bad call, better retreat while invulnerable and try again :^)"-button
he can simply negate the outcome of a stupid gameplay decision, it's bullshit and shouldn't be possible for a glasscannon
>>338718781
i can't aim with soldier :(
>>338718736
The thing is that if I want to be anywhere near the action as Zen (and land discord orbs), I will be open to being shot at. With so little health that not even a fully charged widowmaker shot can instakill him, it's just not conducive to his intended playstyle for him to be as frail as he is.
Either they give him more health, or change the functionality of the discord orb so that it no longer requires Zen to enter the line of sight of his enemies.
>>338718712
>>338718457
Zen's a deep rear support, who can and should spam at a chokepoint with both his primary attack and discord orbs and occasionally throw a healing orb on your allies.
He's NOT SUPPOSED to survive at the frontline or if he gets flanked by a dedicated flanker hero.
>>338718304
because people will buy it anyway and blizzard only has to upload one console update for ever 4th or 5th pc update anyway
>>338718996
That whole point is contradicted by the fact that you can't stay in the deep rear if you want to land discord orbs as they require you to have line of sight to the target, which means that you will inevitably have to be visible to the enemy team.
>>338716086
what is this?
>>338718874
please elaborate
>>338719145
At any high level those are difficult to play, Soldier needs to do only headshots, Lucio needs to be abe to kite like a god or he will just die
>>338719112
you're supposed to poke in and out to reapply orbs obvs.
>>338716640
>tracer tries to ult me
>misses, tosses it on the ground
>teleports away
>chain her dumb ass
>mine explodes right as she passes over it
This guy is my new favorite
>>338718960
have you considered that maybe, he is so strong to face off in SELF DEFENSE? thats probably what they were going for with the monk shit anyways. zenyetta can face off even a bad reinhardt by himself in close quarters. you aren't supposed to go out and offensive everything, you are just supposed to be able to defend yourself when push comes to shove
Hey guys, want a hot Hanzo tip?
If you shoot an arrow straight up in the air it comes back down about 20 seconds later just a tiny bit ahead of your position.
If you are on defense, you can use this to set up a riccochet arrow that will land in front of spawn gates about 2-3 seconds after they open if you time it correctly. Probably won't kill anyone, but if you're lucky you'll do some free damage.
>>338719239
And when you do that, the enemy hanzo or widowmaker will just end you because you don't have enough health to survive either of their projectiles, even if they don't hit the head.
>>338719112
There's no contradiction. Max range of discord orb is the range you should be keeping at away from the action.
>>338718960
Your complaint about being clapped by Widows can be fixed by a speed adjustment and realizing that he's not a front line person.
>>338719112
But it's easy to tag people while being mid to back or is strafing an unheard of thing? You aren't trying to get into 1v1s with him are you? That's a dumb idea.
>>338718996
If what you say is true, what is the advantage of picking Zen over someone like Mercy?
>heals faster
>damage boost is more significant
>much more maneuverability
Only difference is that Mercy cant shoot balls of fury but if hes "deep rear" its not like hes gonna get the opportunity anyway
>>338709989
>Why is nobody playing Junkrat?
Maybe you aren't because you get matchmade with shitters.
>>338719310
>hanzo or widowmaker
First you want Zen to be able to tank on the frontlines. Now you want him to also be able to counter snipers? Aren't you getting a little bit greedy there?
>>338719295
That would make sense if his attacks weren't pinpoint accurate with no damage falloff at any range.
https://d1u1mce87gyfbn.cloudfront.net/media/reference/hanzo_reference.pdf
>5' 8"
Fucking manlets always thinking they're so tough.
>>338719310
Yeah that's called a hard counter. Sorry a support isn't good against snipers
>>338718915
You can easily chase him and shoot him when he becomes vulnerable again. It's not as bad as mei's ice healing
>>338719226
let me requote the original question
>Who's the character that requires the least skill to use?
not "who takes least amount of skill in high level"
it's "who is the easiest to play"
Soldier 69 is the barebone standard shooter character with a heal and sprint
Lucio is useful just by existing
>>338719356
Unlike mercy he can pick off stragglers. He definitely shouldn't be a team's only support though. I don't think anyone's denying that. He works best with a second support like Lucio or Angela, or with a team that can handle their own health in various ways so all he has to do is touch ups.
>>338719394
>conveniently omits the projectile speed
>>338719356
That question has already been answered. If you want to play a healslut you ARE better off picking Mercy. But don't try to homogenize support heroes just because you don't like to play their intended playstyle.
Just pick the heroes that best suit your needs.
>>338719356
mercy can't heal across the map, mercy does not have an ult that can change the outcome of the game, mercy cannot debuff tanks (but can buff them), mercy cannot heal and attack at the same time
>>338719390
How the fuck is wanting him to survive more than a fart in his general direction wanting to make him "tank the frontlines"?
>>338719518
>mercy does not have an ult that can change the outcome of the game
>>338719508
You mean the "comparable to Hanzo's arrows" projectile speed?
>>338719439
And Junkrat is 6 fucking 5 for some bizarre reason
>>338718915
>>338719462
You can also use the mist form to chase an enemy on low hp as a Reaper, since it has slight speed boost. And also you can immediately start unloading your ammo in their face when the mist form ends by just holding the left mouse button, while your target has to guess when it's the right time to maybe stop running at try to fight back.
>>338719518
What? I have won multiple games with a clutch mercy ult.
>>338719619
https://d1u1mce87gyfbn.cloudfront.net/media/reference/junkrat_reference.pdf
6' 6" actually
>>338719518
>mercy does not have an ult that can change the outcome of the game
Yes she can. Zen's might be more obvious to the intermediate player but Mercy's will forever be a game changer because of what it does and ease of use. To fully utilize Zen you'd some degree or coordination or being able to anticipate where your team is going to be.
>>338719619
That posture is a killer.
>>338719589
>gigantic invincibility sphere that affects all teammates
i don't even remember mercy's ult is how shit it is
>>338719626
and ive done the same with zenyetta what is your point
>>338719589
>team gets wiped by the enemy defenses
>res them all
>they're resurrected at the very spot they died, making them easy targets for a secondary kill
Lucio's and Zen's ult are so much better, because they prevent the wipe from happening in the first place.
>>338713004
The game isn't canon
seriously
>>338719518
>mercy does not have an ult that can change the outcome of the game
It charges faster than any other ult in the game so far and it is incredibly clutch in many situations
PASS THE WHISKEY
>Zenyatta has the least health in the game
>He has no movement bob, so landing headshots on him is a piece of cake
>His abilities require line of sight to their targets, meaning he has to show himself to use them effectively
>Slow as molasses
>Dealing a lot of damage (for a support) is supposed to offset all this, but that's not taking into account that due to his low health, he isn't exactly in any position to dish out that damage
Face it, Zen needs a buff
>>338719723
It's a mass revive. So gamechanging as well. Mercy's is better on defense and lets you completely reverse the tables and Zenny's is better on offense and allows your whole team to push deep hard and fast
>Activates Ult
>Kills everyone
This game has less counterplay than a Zed lane in League
>>338719619
The man is bent over and hobbles on bent knees.
>>338719723
Your point was that Mercy didn't have a game changing ult when it is so wrong it hurts.
>>338719891
You can be easily killed and are highly vulnerable when using every ult capable of killing everyone.
>>338719897
Yeah but he's a cackling goblin who should be a manlet not a giant.Better for fucking that way
>>338719761
if the enemy team is able to wipe your team twice in a row without suffering relevant damage then it is also able to wipe your team while it is equipped with lucio's shield
>NO ONE CAN 'IDE FROM MY SIG-UHHHHHHHHHHH
>>338719834
Maybe a slight change because his discord orbs were initially designed around him not having to be near his teammates and with the LoS nerf nothing was added to his defenses to compensate for the fact that he'll be more in the thick of things. As it is now you just have to utilize chokepoints and hallways where you're out of los of your enemy but can see allies even though hallways can be really dangerous too. He's just not going to be good on maps without a lot of cover
>>338719834
What if discord orbs were damage buffs for allies instead of damage amps for enemies?
This would mean that Mercy should get something else for her alternate fire, though.
>>338714843
>getting kills is fun
>caring about POTG
Back to cod
>>338720429
Discord orbs are fine. They're different ennough from Mercy's damage boost. They single out enemies and make them more vulnerable to your entire team rather than making one teammate more effective against the enemy team. Focus fire in a team fight for high priority targets is more effective than boosting one teammate in a team fight
Anyone else use the 'Hello' and 'Thanks' commands?
I just use 'Hello' if I ever feel like I got an ally out of a jam, like they were cornered by a Reinhardt or something and I saved their ass.
>>338719990
that was clearly not the point you were making
>>338720635
I was thinking from the perspective of Zen not having to show himself if that was the case.
>>338720659
Autism. I bet you spammed voice commands in TF2.
>>338711768
great now i gotta get them webums out
>>338719834
>what is jumping
>what is crouching
>what is being the smallest character in the fucking game
most of your complaints assume there is a million places to camp and that snipers would even spent so much time to watch a median support character when they would probably change their focus to the reinhardt moving down the middle or the pharah in the skies
>>338720089
>Roadhog and Junkrat
Can he take the whole hog though?
>>338720089
Just think of Jamison as a hobgoblin to explain away the height and how muscular he is.
>>338716167
>Deliberately cheesy one-liners.
>"Dialogue".
>>338719518
>mercy does not have an ult that can change the outcome of the game
>whole team gets instagibbed by a suprise Junkrat/Pharah/Tracer/Hanzo ult
>playing as Mercy
>press Q, everyone is back up, push the enemy back, win game
>playing az Zen
>beep boop
>defeat
Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that, [-].
needs a slight nerf
>Roadhog
>McRee
>Lucio
>Mei (just increase the CD on the range shot a bit)
needs a slight buff
>D.va
>Zen
>Symmetra
game is fixed
>>338721820
>play as zen
>they never died in the first place
Why do the maps suck shit?
>>338719439
>hanzo is called the most handsome character for months leading up to release
>it's revealed he's 5'8
>nobody cares about him anymore
>>338722216
good luck doing anything against an INSTANT FUCKING NUKE ULTIMATE with your healing over time
>>338722370
its more likely mercy would be closer to the other players than zen since she needs to be to do anything. if that happened you would die before you could revive the team but at least zen would survive
>>338722289
because TF2 maps sucked ass at the start as well
remember Hydro?
>>338722370
>anyone playing D.va
Iz good joke
>>338719439
That's average for a Jap though.
>>338722293
Excuse you, Jesse is the most handsome and forever will be.
>>338722447
>if that happened you would die before you could revive the team but at least zen would survive
because we all know how much a lonely Zen can push forward when his team gets nuked
stupid fuck, do you even read what you're writing before you hit send?
>>338722782
yeah a lonely zenyetta is perfectly capable. what is your point? 1 unit is worse than 0 units? a good zenyetta can face off against enemies i dont see your point
>>338718457
riot pls go
>>338722462
I loved playing for hours on Hydro
>>338723168
>what is your point? 1 unit is worse than 0 units?
if that 1 unit will die 20 seconds later, fall behind in the respawn qeue and subsequently come back into the teamfight later than if he would've just died with his team, yes
>>338723168
>a lonely zenyatta is perfectly capable of maintaining the frontline after the rest of his team got nuked by a lucky junkrat ult
>>338722465
what is Tracer
what is Junkrat
what is Bastion
>>338723168
>this post
my sides have left the moonbase
>>338723848
>>338724016
>>338724168
why do hero games attract such shit players? are you guys console players or something because it's pinpoint weapon is perfectly viable on pc.
>here comes enemy with more health than me!
>throw debuff
>hit him 3 times
>dead
wow. what situation would all units be in a position to die from a junkrat or nuke anyways? and why couldn't zenyetta use his ult BEFORE they die (like he is supposed to)? you keep throwing hypotheticals but this would never happen. as genuine as i can be, first time ive ever actually meant it, get good
>>338724881
>and why couldn't zenyetta use his ult BEFORE they die (like he is supposed to)?
because heal over time is pointless against a burst damage ulti
>you keep throwing hypotheticals but this would never happen
unlike a zenyatta holding off 2+ enemies on his own after his team got gibbed
>get good
top kek
you're oblivious to what's actually being discussed but still claim victory
hilarious
>>338724881
>what situation would all units be in a position to die from a junkrat or nuke anyways?
>>338725106
>because heal over time is pointless against a burst damage ulti
except it isn't. aoe weapons only kill within certain zones, most survive every single time. only time your team wouldn't be able to dodge a dva ult is if it was outside and she flew up first. there would never be this hypothetical situation where your entire team would be instakilled, most would survive
>unlike a zenyatta holding off 2+ enemies on his own after his team got gibbed
again completely viable
get good and stop trying to change characters you don't know how to use
>>338724881
>here comes enemy with more health than me!
>throw debuff
>hit him 3 times
>dead
>throw debuff at McRee
>stuns, slams trigger, you are dead
>throw debuff at Reaper
>phases right next to you, 2 hits from shotgun, you are dead
>throw debuff at Roadhog
>he laughs at your face, hooks you in, you are dead
>throw debuff at Genji
>reflects every shot, nothing personnel, you are dead
repeat with every single hero in the game except for maybe Symmetra because she sucks even more ass than Zen
Zen is literally the worst 1v1 hero in the entire game
I GOT MERCY POTG BOYS, IT'S ALL OVER
>>338725794
>Zen is literally the worst 1v1 hero in the entire game
Good thing 1v1 is literally at the bottom of the list of things to balance the game around.
>>338707614
>autoaim
>people will defend this shit
lol
>>338724881
>you keep throwing hypotheticals but this would never happen
so what you are saying is noone scored a multikill with a Junkrat ult for example, huh?
>>338726398
>this goalpost moving
holy FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8bjvoHOSFs
>6:03
>even non gamers like dat ass
>tfw blizzard will never allow overwatch ladies to make out button
>>338709915
Nah, he's right. Each shot from FtH, even if it strikes the enemy's hitbox for their head, will not proc a critical shot.
It would be hilariously overpowered.
>>338710976
Yes. Ults like McCree's would be hilariously OP without something to tell everyone in the area to take cover or kill him.
It also fits with his character; he's challenging the whole other team to a duel like in the movies. That archetype stands in the middle of the road and announces himself, rather than being sneaky.
Now, stuff like Genji, that's stupid. A ninja screaming that he's drawing his sword and everyone who doesn't want to get cut should run is a very bad ninja. It also takes away from the appeal of climbing behind their lines and cutting them down with a powerful melee when he screams about it before doing it.
>>338707614
I'm liking Zarya. Her charge is a bit of a bastard to build on pubs, and her hair still irks me, but there's nothing quite like completely shutting down enemy pushes (unless there's a two reinheardts to just shield them all) and hard countering Dvas.
>>338725794
>playing a support to 1v1
You sit on your team and get protected.
>>338713482
In competitive play, he's generally ranked top-tier, right under Lucio and McCree.
It's the inverse problem with Mei. The general player base calls her overpowered, but she's the lowest ranked hero in competitive. Winston is underused in pubs, but is essential in competitive.
>>338708953
A good game with some over the top nerf to core cards ?
>>338717627
It gives bonus xp
>>338707614
*builds Ice wall*
>>338715527
Pulling people into the pit as Roadhog is the best.
>>338717481
I reflect your flashbang. Now you're stunned, I throw shurikens at you and fuck off up a wall.
>>338709727
e, right click, left shift, right click
there now you killing assholes nonstop
>>338734115
>get pushed by mei
>manage to not get frozen, about to kill her
>turns into a block of ice before dying
>builds a wall instantly between us after her ice breaks
Well guess I just got outplayed by a more skilled player
>>338711736
>It's the Bastion problem all over again: "Nobody does anything against this problem, so it's just mowing trough our team"
I agree in concept but i think the extent to which it can be countered is pretty different. There are tried and true means of getting around a bastion that really didnt take long to figure out because the problem is straightforward. McCree is a little less so. We all know he shreds tanks and kills anyone in close range, but at mid range he still doesnt have to deal with damage falloff and headshots for a lot of damage. He can most certainly be sniped, but i think its worth noting that the only character who sees more play in the burgeoning competitive OW scene than McCree, is Widowmaker.
McCree isnt an absurd problem that needs to be wildly nerfedor anything like that, but i wouldnt be surprised if he got a few tweaks in the coming months
Winston kinda seems mediocre. Maybe slightly more useful than D.va.
>>338735319
He's good but he needs good team composition/coordination. Mostly used in koth maps where you play 2 winston and 2 lucio to keep the winstons sustained.
why the fuck does 76s ultimate even exist? makes me angry that they added something so blatantly brainless
>it's a "Two Hanzos on your team while Attacking" episode
>>338735521
so you need to play as a bunch of monkeys then.
McCree player here.
If you die to McCree you are garbage at the game. his stun lasts all of half a second and both his stun and his fanning are only useful if you let him ambush you at close range.
McCree is a tricky little sneak attacking shit and you should be more careful and check your pathing, instead of waltzing carelessly through that doorway and having a flash grenade shoved down your throat.
>>338736654
Right because thats why he's always picked in comp, because the other team is garbage and doesn't know how to counter him.
>>338736951
Basically. I don't wanna get too far into competitive autism here but the game is hot off the press, you know. The inevitable meta has yet to be fully developed and if McCree is giving comp players problems (I don't follow, I wouldn't know) he'll be snuffed out shortly and replaced with something that's actually a problem.
As for me, I play McCree because I like cowboys. Sue me.
>>338737284
Comp has been going since closed beta over a year ago.
>it's an "Attack round and someone picks Bastion" episode
>It's an "all your allies keep funneling no matter how much you spam group up" episode
>It's a "widowmaker ignores the enemy bastion in favor of missing three shots on roadhog before getting hot monkey dicked" episode
Wow another SHITFAGGOTS thread. You guys should be quartered off to a general.
>>338738347
>SHITFAGGOTS
Still learning how to meme, newfriend? You'll get it eventually.
>>338738569
>nu Blizzard fans
>not 10-15 year olds that only care about waifus and the game giving you shit to feel good.
>>338738569
Aren't you up with the new meme friend?
>Its a "Bastion holds left mouse button and murders everyone in the room" episode
I missed the beta and i dont know shit about the game, how are you supposed to deal with that fag?
>>338738759
Ironically, Zarya doesn't fill the niche of heavy at all.
Why is Reaper such an edgelord mexican?
Did Trump send him back over the wall?
>>338712573
its 2 bastions behind 2 reinhards and 2 winstons jumping to the back of our lines raping our supports episode
>>338710330
>buff 76's ammo to 30 rounds
Please do this so I get EVEN MORE KILLS with this admittedly broken character.
>>338710645
>can't defend herself for shit
git gud faggot. Her sidearm is very powerful and has a large magazine
>>338738929
>genji's reflect ability
>teleport behind him with reaper
>lob grenades at him with junkrat
>snipe kill him with widowmaker
So many ways to deal with bastion its not even funny
>>338717234
>mfw playing Timesplitters music while playing Overwatch
![[screaming internally].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VC9pycJ.jpg "[screaming internally]")
