Will Overwatch suffer the same fate?
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Will Overwatch suffer the same fate?
>>338608684
yea.
>>338608684
Yes.
People will get bored of the same repetitive game every match
Of course it it's it's gonna TORTANIC hard amirite fellow /v/-men?This is literally you.
No because Overwatch has Waifus
>>338608794
>implying luke isn't best waifu
no because it's hyped literally everywhere
>people don't understand the difference between a shitty battlefield game and a fucking blizzard game
>>338608684
Mei is cute dammit.
>>338608876
??? tell me
>>338608684
The beta of battlefront looked amazing but that was literally it, the entire game is just nice graphics and nothing more.
Such a shame because i could have been Battlefront 3 instead we got Frostbytefieldstarwars with no fucking content at launch and a broken game.
>>338608794
Only /v/ cares about that.
Your average normie(The actual majority that companies actually care about) is just going to play, get bored and move on to the next big thing
>>338608684
wasn't it counting every login as a new player? So if you logged in 9 times, you count as 9 players
>>338608684
Never underestimate the power of blizzdrones.
People still play D3, and log in every season for ceaseless farm doing the same thing over and over and over again.
>>338608684
Unlikely, because OW isn't a franchise like SW is so it's easier for people to get into. Not to mention OW can run well on pretty much any computer as do all Blizzard games (aside from HotS which is badly optimized).
Also loot boxes keep it interesting.
STAR WARS vs TF2 RIP OFF WITH ASS
gee i wonder who survives
>>338608684
We can only hope
People actually liked the overwatch beta, so no
Your comparison is fucking retarded.
>>338608950
Pretty much the legs of this game comes from how comp and the other game modes go.
This thread is a perfect litmus test because literally anyone that responds "no" is an overfaggot.
>>338608950
moba's are on the way out.
TF2 popularized the concept 10 years ago so im thinking people will just go back to consoles, mmo's mmorpg's and casual phone shit
>This thread
More proof it's just filled with casuals and shills.
8get
>>338608778
Tortanic was easily the biggest cancer to this board. It was funny at the time but the board culture went to dogshit.
This thread
>g-guys shills are not real
I wonder what the guy who created Mei feels right now. Seeing the internet lose it's dick over her practically overnight.
>>338608684
I doubt they had those numbers playing it was probably more like 1-1.5 million since they pulled the usual shit where if you had a battlenet account you were in the open beta.
>>338609035
>>338609030
>>338608980
lie to yourselves all you want, but overwatch will be dead in a few months. I got tired of it after ~2 hours in the beta.
>>338609074
you're fucking retarded
know the difference between the console normie and tf2/ow/moba player audience
>>338608684
>Will Overwatch suffer the same fate?
Doubtful. It'll at least see more success over the long-term.
>>338608684
No, the Battlefront beta let everyone know the game was shit while Overwatch beta was actually fun.
Played the Battlefront beta - I did not buy Battlefront.
Played the Overwatch beta - I bought Overwatch.
>>338609183
>I got tired so the game will die!!!
eks dee
>>338608684
No, because it's a-mei-zing
>>338608684
Battlefront was complete shit in every way that mattered, I don't know about Overwatch, but I doubt it could be as disappointing.
>>338609091
>>338609067
I never even got to play the game and im sick of it.
tf2 clones where boring 8 years ago and this is just a knee jerk of blizzard to stay relevant.
>>338609185
Wait theres a difference?
I thought the most popular build on steam was a i5 cpu, intergrated gpu (inthell) and 8gb of ram
Let them play dogshite we dont have to fuck off with your 'muh differences'
>>338608950
I think you are underestimating how popular the waifu meme is with normalfags.
Good maybe all the casuals and 13 year old fags will move from TF2 to Overwatch and TF2 will be great again.
>>338609371
Are you implying SW is not popular with normies?
>>338608684
don't even mention those 2 in the same sentence bro
There is just no way it is going to live up to the hype, no game can. This game only got famous because of a certain controversy and heavy marketing, but i can already see people playing it for a month and then dropping it
As >>338608950 stated, normies are just going to check it out and then move onto something else
The market is saturated with these "futuristic FPS". The only thing that will keep this game going is the waifus and the porn, let's be honest. It is what kept LoL afloat for so long aswell
>>338609506
No.
>20 ticks per second
Yeah no this game will be shit.
>>338609438
TF2 wont be good until valve start making real games again so that will be never
Somewhere out there, a butthurt overfaggot is compiling posts from this thread to make the eventual "/v/ BTFO" pic when Blizzard posts some first-week statistic. Too bad he won't be able to post it in a couple months when this shit is deader than Super MNC.
>>338608684
Yes
>>338608950
I don't know. I saw a lot of people even here enjoy the beta a lot and will play it for a while.
As long as Blizzard can release constant updates to stir interest as well as make cash prizes for tournaments I am sure it will last quite a while
.
Battlefront sold almost 14 million copies...
>>338609571
jesus christ i find 60tick to be the bare min these days
People didn't really say anything about the lack of content in the Battlefront because it was a beta.
Then it was revealed that the actual game will only have 1 more map than the actual beta. New spread quickly.
Meanwhile, Overwatch's beta was systematically the whole game. The high quality that people have praised about will be there at launch.
>>338609074
>mmos
>ever coming back
Are you genuinely retarded?
Answer truthfully.
>>338608684
Yes, its even more shallow than this battlefront
>>338608684
>a-mei-zing!
>a-mei-zing!
Thats so funny lmfao!!!!!!!! XD XD
Tell me again how this game is not for casuals and waifufags
>>338609848
huh? I havent played them in over 6 years so my experiance these days is quite limited.
never liked wow anyway
>>338609863
>getting buttblasted by a small joke
Kek
If this game had a full male cast of characters like TF2 /v/ would give no fuck about this shit at all.
You can't prove me wrong because you know its right.
Waifufags are the cancer killing video games not normalfags casuals.
>>338609571
Its not gonna be a respectable competitive shooter anyway even if it didn't have that problem. Its fucking shallow as fuck.
>>338609863
It is.
>>338609571
>>338609769
It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
It doesn't even matter. Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed. Overwatch's netcode feels way better than TF2, even if TF2 on 100+ tick servers.
>>338609863
it is that's the target
>>338609762
And now it has less than 4000 concurrent daily players.
Overwatch is going to sell, easily over 7 million week one sales.
The Profit is irrelevant to us as consumers, It's if its playerbase going to last. It's a multiplayer only game after all.
>>338609965
I would agree but battleborn has waifus and no ones talking about that shit.
>>338609947
>nomal joke
You mean a joke to literal normalfags and retarded 14 year olds?
Cool meme
>>338608775
>People will get bored of the same repetitive game every match
By your logic every CoD game should be dead by now which they clearly are not.
Also the same goes for every BF game and many many other games from dif genres
>>338609863
I'm pretty sure this is bait but if you are serious... shit m8, you sound like a jaded, joyless person, goddamn.
>>338609980
Its a LoL like shooter as in the strategy lies in how teams can work together rather then raw mechanical aim. That is the biggest gripe most competitive players form other FPS's had.
>>338609134
>board culture
You're kinda the reason this board is shit anon.
>>338610034
>It doesn't even matter. Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed. Overwatch's netcode feels way better than TF2, even if TF2 on 100+ tick servers.
Sorry that sound like complete horseshit.
Tickrate is tickrate and i'd take Source engine over Blizzards 'amazing' netcode that cant even do 60tick to clients
the game is going to feel like laggy shit
20tick client = 20tick doesnt matter what fancy 60tick server they have
>Every thread being archived not even 30 posts
in
>6 Overwatch threads
>200 replies each
>11 Hours till release
>"Shilling doesn't exist xD!"
>Make a thread with this exact greentext
>"This thread has been pruned or deleted"
CAN'T
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP
>>338608775
Yeah it was getting stale on the third day of the Beta. I put in about 15 hours.
>>338610089
gee I wonder why maybe its because they are ugly as fuck and too westernish for /v/.
The overwatch girls are extremely sexualized and they don't look like some deviantart tier trash.
>>338609830
>Overwatch's beta was systematically the whole game
Really? I mean REALLY? After playing the beta for several hours and seeing all maps in all modes I got bored, stopped and thought - well this is just a beta and if the release version will have at least twice as much maps and modes then it will probably be fine. If this is not the case then the game is sort of dead on arrival. Shit gets repetitive really fast.
>>338610089
because gearbox
>>338610089
They're not aesthetically attractive though.
>>338610034
>It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
That's like saying when Battlefield 4 did that it fixed everything which it fucking didn't you retarded shill.
Battlefield 4 wasn't "fixed" til they had a clear 60Hz tickrate going on both ends, server AND client.
>Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed.
>that comparison
Fact is that the tickrate alone can make a huge difference, see Battlefield 4 which netcodes can be on the same quality level in delay as CSGO's when it runs at 60Hz or more
>>338610034
>It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
What you said is completely fucking irrelevant.
If updates are sent every 20 ticks, it's 20 ticks even if the engine worked with a million tickrate.
OW feels like hitboxes are absolute shit especially for headshots, but the problem really is the tickrate that's kindergarden-tier.
>>338610109
Oh poor you! Your waifuwatch meme game is getting criticized?
>>338610103
Then what kind of jokes do you like, anon?
>>338608775
Why do people still play mobas then?
>>338608684
Battlefront sold like fucking hotcakes dude.
The game's actual quality aside, the marketing and the hype surrounding it, combined with Force Awakens' was insane
No, because it's actually fun.
I find it to be dynamic and highly entertaining. It's nice to have a class-based team shooter that isn't a dick fest, too. It's funny that some people would complain about that.
Yes, the characters are a big reason why people want to play it. At the end of the day, it's all 1s and 0s, so you should be enjoying what you're looking at.
>>338608684
Overwatch has allready a more autistic fanbase so no
>>338610106
CoD and BF are like rpg with their unlock system. What does Overwatch have? Only cosmetic shit.
>>338608684
yep.
>>338608684
Obviously.
There's no longevity for a PC shootan gaem that doesn't have private servers, because then communities won't form and the handful of friends you started out playing with will slowly dwindle down as people get bored, and there won't be a way to make more friends to play with so then you'll be stuck with pubs who can barely count to 1.
>>338609253
This, people played the battlefront beta because they were excited for a new battlefront. When it wasn't what they expected plus the dlc bullshit, they jumped ship.
>>338610223
What is amazing is that these aren't actually shill threads. Not anymore.
They have marketed the game so hard that people are legitimately making constant threads. It literally has everything it needs that begets posting
>Waifus
>Console war tiered shitposting (comparisons to TF2 and Battleborn)
>Made by Blizzard
>Shit players complaining about balance
>Not F2P
It literally has all the things people love to shitpost about, so they make a thread and do so.
And because people hate those constant threads people make more threads in hatred which just makes things worse.
They shilled us so hard we became the shills ourselves, isn't that frightening?
>>338608775
I see so that's why Dota, league and CS:GO are so dead.
>>338609183
Screencapped
;)
>>338610323
BF4 still feels like shit even on 60Hz servers, I tried playing it recently.
>>338610130
Tons of fps already have team based focus on working together.
CTF already promoted it heavily.
UT have multiple multiple modes that encourages it heavily. Like Assault, Onslaught (ASSFAGGOT like battle over nodes linking to base), and Bombing Run, which requires insane amount of teamwork and coordination.
>>338608684
No, overwatch is a great game.
>>338610371
The gameplay is shallow and slow as hell. The skill ceiling is basically about as low as you can get.
>>338610089
The problem i can see with Battleborn without knowing jack shit about the gameplay is the art style, its really ugly and reminiscent of fucking stick figures
Who the hell would like that on their waifus?
If Overwatch doesn't get the depth it deserves, then it will sadly go the way of Battlefront. The largest weakness by far for Overwatch at the moment is the map design. Some maps are horribly linear. Some points are horribly OP towards a side. etc etc.
>>338610582
And guess what? Usually all those modes are dead and everyone is busy playing TDM.
>tfw newfags to pc gaming
>tfw never ever played a fps
>tfw buying this
I guess this game is for casuals like me.
>>338610582
nobody plays CTF or the other meme modes competitive its either duel or tdm.
>>338610618
Here he is, the man who besmirched the diablo franchise.
>>338608684
Blizzard games are never not popular.
>>338609183
Funny 4 of my friends pre-ordered after the beta and played the beta every day it was live.
>>338608775
What is Dota (1mln users online at any given moment), CS (600k online), TF2 (100k online), LoL (6mln online).
No. Blizzdrones are too many.
>>338610356
The ones that don't make me look like a retarded waifuweeb.
If you find this amusing good for you.
>>338610439
When you actually make the haters of your product to market it even harder than your followers you are doing something right.
That, or the whole population of /v/ is mostly retarded.
Eitherways, Mods are obviously letting people post 6 threads without punishment.
>>338610785
>Confirmation bias
Your friends are probably as casual as you are then.
>>338608684
I doubt it. Regardless of what you guys think, Blizzard puts a lot of time and love into their games, you can't deny that. Other then that fact, Battlefront was doomed to begin with; shitty business practices, a shallow core game experience, overall boring gameplay, all wrapped up in a comfy star wars skin. Overwatch is a brand new IP, and they still surprassed a STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT game in open beta numbers. I think that's saying something.
>>338610819
>TF2
>Repetitive.
>>338610767
How many people still play Diablo 3? What about Starcraft 2? What about Heroes of the Storm?
>>338610819
Seems like CS is slowly decreasing. And mobashit isn't that repetitive.
>>338610208
>game is GOING to feel like laggy shit
I played it, it feels better than TF2.
>>338610323
Battlefield 4's netcode wasn't a problem with tick. It had issues like people not pointing in the right direction, guns not firing, bullet damage not being sent, then all of it being sent in one single hit. Nothing to do with tick, it was just poor fucking net code.
If Battlefield 4 had none of those issues, no one would complain about the tick rate.
>>338610326
It makes a difference because it allows balance in instances where players do the same thing at the same time.
>>338610908
It says that you are a blizzdrone.
>>338610106
>By your logic every CoD game should be dead by now which they clearly are not.
CoD has actual progression and not just random hat drops.
CoD also has way more modes.
CoD also has a SP campaign.
CoD has some issues, but content and variation is not one of them.
>>338610994
I still play each Diablo season, it's fun for a short while as you try out new class builds but becomes tiring and repetitive real quick. It's much better than it was at launch it just does't reward you for consistent play.
>>338610867
It's a casual world we live in, anon. That only makes it more mainstream and less likely to die, but hey, i'll be having fun, how about you?
>>338608876
>MP only
>low content
What is the difference?
Also Battlefield 4 has like 200k+ players constantly across console+PC
>>338610663
I never found the gameplay to be shallow. That is clearly a subjective argument. As I play, I am constantly thinking of new ways to compliment other player's abilities with mine, and in many cases, opportunities arise at moments you simply cannot plan, you just need to have the mind to see how you can exploit them. Overwatch abilities are dynamic enough to allow for very unexpected tactical maneuvers.
The skill ceiling is really where you set it for yourself. You can talk about ults being cheap, too, but having the coordination to use them effectively against an intelligent team can change the outcome of a match drastically.
There are players who lower the bar for themselves. You seem to have been one of them. They're in every game.
>>338610819
What is Natural Selection 2, what is Tribes: Ascend, what is Titanfall, what is Heroes of the Storm, what is Left 4 Dead, what is Evolve, and so forth
>>338610908
>Blizzard puts a lot of time and love into their games
Overwatch is literally an MMO that failed to launch and was repackaged into a casual shootan cashgrab.
If they don't take a look at the 20 tick rate and lack of ultimate gain from being damaged, maybe.
Those are the two largest issues Overwatch is facing atm. One has you dying behind cover, and the other is the direct cause of the game's steamrolly nature.
>>338611151
>CoD also has way more modes.
That all dead.
Its all TDM with a smaller portion in Dom and miniscule handfulls in other game modes
And the progression is stupid as most people just prestige for the cosmetic look of the level icon.
>>338610504
Those games are fun because you actually work as a team.
>play TF2 on official Valve server
>scout is doing circles around me as heavy
>can't hit him with hitscan gun despite having crosshair on him entire time
>realize I'm playing a server side hit detection game
>aim in front of scout by a foot
>he melts to my minigun
WOW SUCH AMAZING NETCODE!!!! Overwatch can't compete with it's le 20 tick!
>>338611293
>Tribes
>Titanfall
Those games are even less repetitive than Overwatch, feature more content and have a higher skill ceiling, though. Or rather, had. RIP ;_;
>>338610908
>a shallow core game experience, overall boring gameplay
Sounds like Overwatch tbqh.
>>338608775
This. I was lucky enough to get into the very first beta wave before Genji/Mei/D.Va were in. There was nothing that brought me back to the game.
I also played when they were added but and suffered from the same thing.This game is awful to play without friends. Pugs are shit ;_;
>>338611321
>That all dead.
Like Overwatch will be 2 months after release?
Don't kid yourself, Overwatch is extremely low on content and is very shallow. To keep the game alive Blizzard will need to release constant free updates.
>>338611324
That's the whole point of overwatch.
>>338611170
>>>/reddit/
>>>/out/
>>338609863
This is true autism
Not like the insult people throw around but sheer full-blown autism.
I can't fucking wait until the game has been out a week and everyone is beyond bored of the handful of incredibly simple maps on offer.
Seriously, TF2 had more depth in its little finger at launch, with the promise of hundreds of maps to come. Sure, they eventually ruined it with retarded hats and weapons, but it was going great for a while. OW is an artificial hype machine sustained only by morons.
>>338608950
>IMPLYING half the reason LoL is huge has nothing to do with waifus
Just because the normal human don't go full autism writing fanfics, liking futa, etc, doesn't mean they don't appreciate an attractive cast of female polygons. Fuck, even the beta had a shit ton of Diva players, and you can bet your ass they just played her because she is a hot teenager (same age as OW's main target audience) gamer girl because she is pure garbage and you're better off with a 10 year old on Widow as replacement.
TL/DR: today's average gamer may function normally in society, but he still is a failure and awkward when it comes to interacting with women and getting laid.
>>338611526
I didn't get that feeling from the beta, it played like CoD, everyone was doing their own thing unless you were a dedicated healer.
>>338610762
Hey calm down man, no reason to get all worked up.
I only recently got into tf2 6s so the only interest I had for the game was playing with my normie friends.
Luckily I got the game for free since I wasn't going to pay for it. I'll probably play it for a week or two
>>338609136
>dead memes
>>338611293
Yeah except the reason why these games are not popular is clearly not the fact that they are repetative.
>>338608684
No because unlike EA, Activision Blizzard has shown a willingness to sink as much money into a game as possible to perpetuate it.
>>338608775
CSGO exists and it only has what like three maps actually played?
>>338610709
Let's not underestimate this. Undertale has waifus and it's game isn't all that aesthetically pleasing.
>>338611483
Titanfall sold very well. I guess that's blizzard goal - to sell the game, then milk retards with skins for some time. And they don't really give a fuck what happens next.
>>338611293
Left 4 Dead was massively popular for a VERY long time. It had a lot to do with being charming and having characters you could identify with in some way. The gameplay was very good, too, for what it did.
NS2 was a development-hell shit-show. That game wasn't even finished on release day, and I HELPED fund it.
Titanfall was another bland game with great gameplay and great hook -- having mechs in a FPS is a great crowd pleaser.
I don't really have to talk about Evolve's convoluted purchasing debacle. I think a lot of people lost interest simply due to how stressful the launch was.
>>338611507
>Don't kid yourself, Overwatch is extremely low on content and is very shallow.
This meme again?
>>338611539
Dude lighten up maybe you need to have a drink MEI-TE!!!
LMFAO I'm hilarious!!!
>>338610994
>What about Starcraft 2?
I still play that.
>>338611507
>Shifting way from what I was saying
I was only saying how crap CoD is.
Even then it is quite similar to Overwatch yet still has players.
Most CoD players use the current meta OP smg's and all play TDM so they can get the next supply drop hoping they get a cool new skin. In the heart of it its just running around shooting people, if CoD can be successful and only have that then surely Overwatch can too.
>>338611609
I played with friends and won 70% of my games, so I think team work is very important, or we're all gods at shooters.
Here's the difference, and it's fucking important.
During the SWB beta, every bit of feedback and people posting bullshit on /v/ was "this game is so fucking awful, they won't listen to a fucking thing they tell us, but it's only a beta".
Overwatch beta has been nothing but rainbow farts complete with a glitter confetti cannon.
>>338611472
Hitscan weapons are clientside. Maybe you should try lowering your sensitivity so you can track better 8-)
Overwatch is going to survive because it's actually fun.
The difference between Battlefront and Overwatch is 9.5 million for 1.6 billion minutes versus 9.7 million for 4.9 billion minutes. Battlefront beta players played an average of 2.8 hours per person, while Overwatch beta players played an average of over 8 hours per person.
My friends and I are without question going to pull out at least 40 hours from Overwatch, which is all it really needs. But I disagree with the tired gamer cynics; I think Overwatch will stick around for a while. That's how Blizzard runs things. They're going to do balance or content patches that keep people coming back to try it out. They do it for all their games.
>>338610504
110+ heroes with the same amount of skills and attacks with 100+ items to costumize rhem during matches
I mean if people are crying how casual mobas are then whats with overwatc? Or it doesnt count because the game has 3d aim instead of 2d?
Also mobas are free, and doesnt cost the same price as tw3, das3 or whatever game that actually worths its price.
>>338610847
>the whole population of /v/ is mostly retarded.
Are you implying /v/ is smart to begin with? Are you fucking kidding me?
/v/ somehow thinks its smart because they don't fall for Apple's iPhone and yet they buy the newest graphics card or console on the market.
I am talking as /v/ as a whole before you bring up shit like "but /v/ is not one person"
I got sucked up in all the hype... i bought the digital download for pc, but i already regret it due to the fact all the hype will be gone in about a month from now.
>>338611750
>This meme again?
How is it a meme? Are you telling the the opposite is true?
It's fulled to the brim with content and is hands down one of the deepest shooters ever?
You could see everything the game had to offer 2 days into the Beta and you can master heroes in minutes.
>>338608684
God i hope so I'm so tired of seeing all these paid shills shilling this game.
>>338611691
You are right but for some reason ugly humans with fucked up proportions are less popular than ugly non humans with fucked up proportions
I dont know why but thats what i can see
>>338611816
CoD is successful because it's a casual, twitchy shooter that rewards you for reflexes and feeds off your brain with dopamine every time you kill someone. That's why it's so popular. That's its main hook.
Overwatch has none of that. It's a team-based game with a gimmick of switching characters after you die to counter the counterpick someone from the other team pulled on you. Kills don't feel rewarding, and objective-focused modes are too hard for ten year old scrubs.
>>338610908
>nine point seven million open beta players
Patting yourself on the back for saving nine million people from having to pay to play your game is silly, and it's why I think the open beta was suicidal for Overwatch's success. I literally played, and experienced, every single thing Overwatch had to offer in a total of ten hours over two days.
To say the least, people flocking to play the free game, even for a limited amount of time, likely didn't have the kind of reaction Blizzard was hoping for. I can count on one hand how many people I saw claim that the open beta sold them on the game, but I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the amount of people saying that they got what they wanted from Overwatch's open beta.
>>338611472
>Shooting at something moving fast by aiming directly at it
>Ever
>>338608684
Is EA Blizzard?
Is Diablo 3 TOR?
Is Battlenet Origin?
The real main difference is blizzard actually puts effort into the game itself and then polishes it afterwards when things go wrong.
EA takes your money and runs. People have more faith in blizzard in this day and age than EA due to the fact they still update games and keep their teams around.
>Diablo 2 is still being updated
>>338608684
> sell 14 million copies, mostly from console peasants who don't know any better
Maybe, although thats way better than people wasting their money on literal shit like Battleborn, Doom or Call of Duty 2016.
I dunno why people are acting like Overwatch is going to lack content. They're already planning new character and map updates.
There's already almost 4 characters per class in the game. If people are not tired of the same 9 characters in TF2 after this many years, then I'm pretty sure Overwatch will be fine.
>>338610994
Just because /v/ don't talk about those games doesn't mean they're dead. In fact hots is actually growing thanks to overwatch
>>338612034
>TF2 had 9 classes, stock weapons only, and 6 maps when it released (oh and 0 cosmetics)
>Somehow 21 classes, 12 maps, and dozens and dozes of cosmetics and taunts are shallow.
>>338612151
D3 is still shit.
>>338611816
>if CoD can be successful and only have that then surely Overwatch can too.
Why don't you say that to all the dead games like it. I'm not just talking Evolve here either, but games stretching several years back.
>>338612150
Clearly playing shit games with unnecessarily high tick has ruined you, anon. Scout might be fast but he can't outrun bullet.
>>338610257
This looks incredibly generic.
>>338608974
Source? No? you piece of shit
>>338612217
Characters in Overwatch are much, much more shallow than TF2's, to the point you can more or less master them in like two fucking hours of play.
I have to say that the maps are designed horribly in overwatch. They are pretty for sure, but most of the time they are wide hallways that have a series of Chokepoints.
Which is to say I get the same feeling playing every map in OverWatch that I did playing Dust Bowl in Team Fortress 2. Bored out of my skull.
>>338612272
>In fact hots is actually growing thanks to overwatch
>>338610867
I'd rather be a casual and have fun instead of being a jaded retard.
>>338608927
they really had a lot of potential to work with and they totally just fucked it up in the worst way.
they forever sullied the Battlefront namesake. did they just not think people would buy a Battlefront 3 and that their fucking crapfest was any better??
>>338612162
Don't put Doom in with that lot you faggot.
>>338612217
People didn't get tired of TF2 because it had a very strong community base, lots of updates, and was fun to play.
Overwatch won't have the community base because there won't be private servers to play on, so it'll be popular for while, die, then be revived for a month or so after patches.
>>338612217
>They're already planning new character and map updates.
Blizzard can't even hope to imagine to even dream of putting out content in Overwatch fast enough to keep people playing. They'll have to drop huge monthly updates to keep interest high enough in Overwatch to keep seeing even a fraction of the open beta numbers they had, and I guarantee you they won't have enough people left on the development team for Overwatch to do that. They've probably already shifted most of the Overwatch devs to the next Blizzard project.
>>338612276
>Two healers are a different class
News to me
>>338612217
Almost all OW characters have more complex equivalents in TF2. Overwatch doesn't even have a spy equivalent because the game is so swallow.
>>338611975
>They're going to do balance or content patches that keep people coming back to try it out.
>Blizzard
>balancing
I play a lot of Hearthstone. They don't balance anything for shit.
>>338611052
>decreasing
not really and even if it is, you do realize that both dota and CS are well over 15 years old, right? They are both repetitive games which are in top 10 most played games for over 15 years now, clearly repetitiveness is not an issue.
>>338612276
TF2 came with like 3 other games at launch.
>>338612272
HAAAAHAHA
HOLY SHIT
HAAAHAHA
ARE YOU DRUNK DUDE?
>>338611916
It's easy to create a consensus on /v/. We're anonymous after all.
The posts below and above me could have easily been made my myself, How would you know?
It wouldn't be hard for a single person to give the perception that /v/ as a collective either support or reject something.
Image what a team of people could do.
>>338608684
Maybe, maybe not, Overwatch has more maps, free content in the future and actual good gameplay with lots of variety to make you comeback for more, so who knows, it might have a portion of the same success tf2 in longevity, before it went f2p.
>>338611970
I have a 144hrz monitor and I could clearly see the crosshair on the scout. When I placed the crosshair so the scout was on the far left of my screen, he died.
I have repeated this many times on many servers. It's just poor fucking game code.
Star Wars didn't have this kind of waifu power behind it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfPCxVMrY4
>>338612276
>are shallow.
When the heroes are designed like Bastion, a gimped engineer, etc. then yes.
TF2 was also one game packaged in Orange Box and was later sold seperately at 20$. The value is incomparable to a AAA title from Blizzard priced at 40-60$.
>dozens and dozes of cosmetics and taunts
How does this add any kind of depth to the gameplay? Most of them are recolors or shitty as fuck lines you froget about seconds after hearing them.
>>338612337
I think much of the shallowness of the characters is caused by how boring the maps are. Only decent ones I think are Gibraltar and otaku castle. For all the chest beating from Blizz about movement options they didn't create environments that utilize them in interesting ways.
>>338612162
>Doom
Go kill yourself, faggot. DOOM is literally the best shooter of 2016
>>338612276
TF2 actually only had 4 maps on launch.
Although it was bundled in a FUCKING 5 GAME PACKAGE FOR 50 DOLLARS. And it had mod support and the ability to make your own dedicated servers with custom content, something OW will never ever have.
>>338612475
Probably because perfect invisibility is fucking stupid.
If you are going to have it then make it halo style camo.
You need to kill yourself if you think spy is a clever class.
>>338610315
This cannot be real.
>>338612582
Watch closelly how fast will >>338612463 get deleted.
>>338612151
Warcraft just received an (compatibility) update recently too
>>338612384
>>338612554
>no argument
At the start of the new starcraft season there was about 50k people playing
Will Overwatch be the next Splatoon?
Should I be taking screenshots to post once the game becomes successful?
>>338612309
And Overwatch doesn't?
>cowboy
>ninja
>dwarf engineer
>knight
>samurai
>>338611970
>mfw someone in chat says "well at least Overwatch has hitscan"
>mfwnf
>>338608876
I wish ea battlfront was like battlefield, it would have been amazing.
>>338612005
yeah dota has more items and hero customization, but it's the same map all the time, overwatch on the other hand has different maps and different objectives, so it's more diverse in this area.
>>338612616
>$0.10 have been deposited into your Bank of India account
>>338611086
I used to be a blizzdrone. Back in the WC3/vanilla/BC days of WoW. I would watch videos of the making of their games. I would get excited about G4 WoW specials. It was clear that they loved their products, and even though they are half craptivision now, they still put effort into all their games regardless of some shitty business practices here and there like the real money auction house.
>>338611305
How is Overwatch a cashgrab? It's one of the cheaper games you can buy nowadays, and every hero/map is free. Call it casual garbage all you want, but it's not a cashgrab. I'm glad Titan failed. I don't want Blizzard to be "the MMO guys". I want them to be the guys that continue taking existing genres and mastering them.
>>338611485
Maybe, but at least they aren't relying on some super IP to sell copies. They seem to have a lot of people on board with their new universe/characters/lore whatever the hell.
>>338612119
I think letting everyone try your entire game for free for a weekend is a really ballsy move that you don't see at all these days. For better or worse, they let everyone get more than a taste of Overwatch, and I applaud that considering all the other stupid shit that happens in this industry.
>>338612691
>no source
keep going
>50k
LOL
>>338612709
Yeah
Popular at launch and 3 months later no one ever talks about it except for the porn that came out of it
>>338612709
/v/ will simply ignore the game and continue to pretend that it's dead
>>338610819
>f2p/super cheap
If these games were 40 to 60 like OW is at launch, they would have never done AS good. Add the fact that they are toaster games and anyome can play them.
Not to mention unlike OW, they are replayable as fuck. TF2 and CS have mods and shit that OW doesn't. MOBAs are replayable because they are based on teamwork and that is fun.
OW is a casual shooter trying to ripoff a f2p game. It getting half, nay, 25% of any of those listed games playerbase consistently is an impossible feat. Especially when we all know PC suffers when it comes to holding a playerbase when it comes to a multiplayer, multiplat, non f2p toaster game, which OW is. It and Battleborn will truly be dead in 2 months.
>>338612524
>>338612607
So other games count towards the content of a game now??
>>338612470
Going by your logic, priest, druid, shaman, monk and paladin healers are the same class in WoW.
>>338612607
Are we talking about game content or game depth?
You seem to be moving some goal posts there.
>>338612616
>DOOM is literally the best shooter of 2016
How much Bethesda pays per post? Are you based in Thailand or in Vietnam?
>>338612691
>about 50k people playing
Are you suggesting those are big numbers dude?
>>338610834
>I like the ones that dont trigger my autistic brain to go into spergmode
>>338612709
Sad thing is, Splatoon required more skill to play.
>>338612601
Is there an Overwatch thread this ISN'T posted in?I'm not complaining.
>>338612709
Another dead memeshit game that only contrarians on /v/ still talk about? Yeah, sure.
>>338612276
>class count
Meaningless.
>stock weapons
That was the best period of the fucking game, back when you knew exactly what you were up against in every encounter instead of having to guess which retarded loadout someone was running.
>6 maps
Including CTF maps which are miles more complex than anything OW has on offer, and CP maps with 5 points instead of 2.
Overwatch is like junk food. It's bright and reasonably fun, but it's not filling. A match lasts 2 minutes on a bad day, 10 on a good one. Meanwhile TF2 had matches that were far longer and had a far greater evolution of scale as the match went back and forth between the middle 3 points until one team managed to clutch the win.
The maps in OW are so tiny that there are really only 2-3 chokepoints to care about on any map. That gets old insanely fast.
>>338612524
4 actually. And those
The thing about Battlefront is that yeah 9 million people played it, but how many played one match and found it to be shallow and boring and broken? Then how many played Overwatch for 48 hours+ in the open beta and subsequently bought the game because of it?
>>338612662
>TF2 actually only had 4 maps on launch.
badlands
granary
2fort
hydro
gravelpit
well
>>338612807
>I want them to be the guys that continue taking existing genres and mastering them.
Sorry to break it to you but they are the guys who take existing genres and casualize them for the general public
>>338612307
TF2 is not a milsim, Heavy's bullets move very slowly(comparatively), you have to lead everything quite a bit. It has nothing to do with "netcode", it's just a fun game that's less about headshots than what you're used to.
>>338611185
Battlefront literally has 4 maps and two of them are a made of the same assets and barely different except for objectives.
Overwatch 12 multi-layered maps (some levels consist of 2 to 3 sub-maps).
Overwatch IS kinda low on content, but Battlefront literally has no content at all.
>>338612524
Are we talking about a single game or game packages here?
You guys seem to desperately move goalposts.
>>338612845
>So other games count towards the content of a game now??
You fail to grasp that TF2 was a small part of a big package and was later sold for at least half the price of Overwatch full price. It also had mod support.
Overwatch is a full priced AAA game that has barely more content than TF2 did.
If you can't comprehend why people consider this an issue then you're not very bright.
>>338612973
>badlands
I meant dustbowl whoops
>>338610130
Having to work together as a team makes a game a MOBA? Are you fucking retarded?
>>338608950
>normies
>playing on pc
>playing anything blizzard
Your definition of normie must be really broad
besides the /v/ that's committed to it, the rest of the majority will most likely be people that have bought every blizzard game past WoW to now
>>338610034
holy shit, overchildren literally believe this
>For Consolefags and Moviefanboys
>For PCgamers and E-sports athletes
>same
>>338612709
Difference is OW threads are already getting deleted unlike Shitoon spam last may
You guys are seriously underestimating how much people like this game and how active of a community it already has.
Battlefront was just a nice looking Battlefield reskin for a franchise that hasnt had an active game in years, while Overwatch has a built in Blizzard playerbase in addition to MOBAfags, waifufags, TF2fags, etc.
Just the fact that its made by Blizzard is evidence enough that it will do well for a few years
>>338613006
Battlefront has 4 big maps, there is like 10 maps total. However, there is like 9 game modes that can be used on multiple maps. 1 mode can be used on 2-4 maps for instance
In Overwatch, there is 12 maps but only 3.5 modes. Maps are TIED TO MODES. Why can't a hybrid map be used for Attack/Defend? Why can't they just slap a Payload on Attack/Defend maps? Why can't they make KOTH on Attack/Defend maps and have multiple points to stop camping?
>>338612807
>For better or worse, they let everyone get more than a taste of Overwatch, and I applaud that considering all the other stupid shit that happens in this industry.
I won't argue it's a ballsy move, but the idea of 'giving them a taste and taking it away from them immediately after' only works in specific circumstances. Blizzard leaving the closed beta mostly to streamers and Youtubers was fucking golden, because it accomplished what they were trying to do: give people a taste of Overwatch and entice them to buy it.
By having the Open Beta, they literally allowed almost ten million people to experience the game, and the vast majority of them said 'Well, I experienced everything from Overwatch that I felt I needed to experience.'. You're literally throwing away millions of sales to convince a few thousand people to buy your product.
>competiitive Overwatch
>Only 2 character of each team have to aim
>>338612421
> worst rated beta in the history of Steam
This is a daily reminder that Bethesda actually thought that Doom was going to sell primarily on its multiplayer mode.
>>338608684
Not after that killer pun.
>>338611539
>mu....muh waifugame is getting criticized!!!!!!
Kys you weeb. If you find this funny just kys.
>>338612879
>50k concurrently isn't big
Nice meme
>>338612805
>$0.10
Damn, Randy's personally giving me $0.05 per post. Guess I backed the wrong guy.
>>338612601
>neo
Lose every time
>>338612959
>I played OW a bunch so obviously EVERYONE played OW a bunch!
This game is going to sell well. Not because it's good, but because they've pulled out all the stops on advertising and carefully planned the beta to coincide with when people are most willing to buy the game, which is why there was a 2 week break between it and the launch.
Battlefront sold well too. But nobody is playing it a few months on, because it has a handful of maps and no longevity. OW is the exact same, no matter how much you want to pretend that the fun will last forever.
But hey, maybe you put 10,000 hours into 2fort, and you'll have loads of fun with OW.
>>338612870
>Are we talking about game content or game depth?
Both, but you lumped up content with depth. Taunts don't add depth.
Also whoop di fuck if you think anyone with a brain would give a shit about some shitty recolor you don't even see yourself when you play over having more modes and shit.
>You seem to be moving some goal posts there.
The only one resorting to logical fallacies is you here.
I have remained firm in that the game is low on content and shallow.
Also you completeley disregard the value. For what you pay you get almost nothing.
>>338612662
>dedicated servers
I can live just fine without it. Mostly because it's not F2P. In TF2 going to a pub means you'll get shitters and the like.
>custom content
Why do people bitch about this so much? Not every single fucking game needs to be modded like Skyrim for fucks sake.
Also, I rather let them keep it that way so we don't see retarded mods like those pony servers.
>>338612989
Oh yeah I forgot I was talking to the most strategic, mastermind, gods in all of the vidya world. Please just ignore my replies, I'm obviously not as good as you when it comes to video games so my opinion doesn't matter. Are you excited for the next KoF? That's probably more up your alley since you're so awesome sick nasty at video games that the scent of an easier game makes you gag. I bow down to you. All hail random guy on /v/ that's so hardcore he completely overlooks fun.
>>338613192
You are implying SW the biggest franchise in the world does not attract more players than something from Blizzard?
>>338611626
Yeah, fuck that loser!
>>338613129
I was comparing it to Lol soley because it relies more on team work then mechanical skill. That was the only comparison I was trying to make.
>>338612879
For steam and if you aren't using the two games that are a whole power of ten higher than the third most played game at any given moment in time as a standard like a huge retard, yes.
>>338612805
>>338612871
>2 DOOM threads each with 24 replies
>1 of them is negative
>10 Overwatch threads
just stop /v/
>>338612741
The art style looks generic, not the characters you moron.
Add a fucking PLAY NOW button to the image and it looks like any other iPhone game.
>>338613305
TF1 2fort for days and days.
>>338613338
People dont play Star Wars games for more than a few days anymore
They havent since BF2
>>338608684
Pretty sure EA was straight up lying about 9 million people playing the beta in a desperate attempt to drum up a little bit more hype before it died for good.
>>338613006
Overwatch has less content than either Evole or Battlefront. Blizzdrones wouldneat that shit up though.
>>338613219
You can experience most of any multiplayer only game in a weekend, if not less. The draw is how much fun you are having/ how much you miss the game when it's no longer in open beta, not how much content there is to chew through.
>>338613443
Gotta get paid somehow.
The only reason why overwatch is big is because its pandering to everyone.
>muh diversity for the SJWs
>muh waifu for the dumb weebs
>muh fun randumb shooter for the normalfags
Blizzard know how to make everyone their slaves.
did i fuck up?
>>338612871
20 baht per post senpai
>>338613305
I know lot of people, myself included that decided to buy the game after playing the open beta, but there are many people who said they won't because something wasn't right. Not one person I know said he won't buy the game, because it got boring, because it didn't. Games are not too long, meaning that you can hop on and play 1-2 games as a break and that's what really is going to make it last a long time imo.
>>338613219
> and the vast majority of them said 'Well, I experienced everything from Overwatch that I felt I needed to experience.'.
But that's wrong, anon.
>>338613192
Blizzard doesn't mean anything anymore. The WoW coffers are dry, and most fans now play a free children's card game that revolves around nothing but RNG. The failure of HotS should be evidence enough for that.
This game might capture the Blizzard diehard fan for a few weeks. They'll leave instantly if the game actually picks up any steam as an FPS and they're slaughtered by decent snipers and soldiers, because Blizzard fans are well known to be complete shit at games, it's why they love Blizzard.
MOBAfags also hate anything with any level of skill, so they'll drop out. Waifufags don't play games. TF2fags are the only potential audience, but they have a free fucking game to play with 100 times the map count.
This game will be dead in 6 months unless Blizzard suddenly announced support for user servers (which they won't), mod support (which they won't), custom maps (you get the picture), and slash the price in half.
>>338613602
>0
yes
>>338613537
>my opinions are facts
Sure thing buddy.
>>338613004
I have to lead my shots when the enemy is 6 inches from me?
>>338613040
>You fail to grasp that TF2 was a small part of a big package
Except there was a standalone version
It's like saying that Super Mario Bros 2 has less content than SMB1 because SMB1 could come with a 3-in-1 cartridge
>>338613602
>43.29
Yes.
>>338613537
They also have less porn than overwatch.
>>338613602
Yes you fucked up majorly.
>>338612918
>That was the best period of the fucking game, back when you knew exactly what you were up against in every encounter instead of having to guess which retarded loadout someone was running.
The additional weapons and items added flavor to the game that was missing. It allowed you to specialize your class so you could do something specific that the stock class isn't able to do/can't do well normally. If you truly miss the old stock experience, go play vanilla TF2 servers and then come crying back to the game as it is now. TF2, back in its 'hay day', was only nostalgic to you because you had nothing better to play and you played hours upon hours of it, and the game never evolved because it wasn't receiving the love it did later on.
And I mean, it's not hard to figure out what loadout someone is using. The weapons are distinctive enough that, in most cases, you can tell who's using what from afar with little difficulty. Almost everything is distinctive enough visually to make out who's using what.
I guess you're just retarded, or the rose-tinted glasses are too thick for you.
I FUCKING HOPE OVERWATCH DIES SO FUCKING FAGGOTSO N /V/ CAN KILL THEMSELVSE. ITS A SHIT FPS GAME.
>double the maps
>more weapons EABF will ever have
>free maps and heroes like TF2
>pve mode that everyone wants for EABF is on OW on day 1
>actually fun like TF2
Literally nothing could go wrong
>>338613616
>I know lot of people, myself included that decided to buy the game after playing the open beta, but there are many people who said they won't because something wasn't right. Not one person I know said he won't buy the game, because it got boring, because it didn't. Games are not too long, meaning that you can hop on and play 1-2 games as a break and that's what really is going to make it last a long time imo.
Dude. I was excited for Overwatch and had it pre-ordered.
2 days into the beta (which I got early access to because of my pre-order) I got so bored with it I uninstallted it and canceled my pre-order.
If you think that no one got bored with the game and say stuff like the game is shallow and low on content then you're delusional.
>>338613545
Not really. Most MP games have unlocks or progression that effect gameplay. Or open betas usually only have a a small amount of maps.
They gave everyone the full game for a week, I put over 50 hours into it and don't feel like coming back anytime soon.
>>338613813
Try containing your autism please.
>>338613813
I FUCKING HOPE OVERWATCH DOESN'T DIES= SO FUCKING FAGGOTSO N /V/ CAN KILL THEMSELVSE. ITS A GOOD FPS GAME.
>>338613616
I don't think it's feasible to get bored of a game like this over a few days. My experience with FPS games would suggest that I'd be sick of OW in roughly 2-3 weeks, depending on how much time I put into it.
That's what's "not right" about the game. There's nothing to make people keep coming back.
>>338613859
KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING NIGGER SHILL.
>>338613819
Battlefront had a PVE mode though, day 1
>>338612709
Splatoon is much better than Overwatch.
With Splatoon at least you're given a genuinely innovative and interesting new way to play a shootan, but with Overwatch you literally just get TF2 if it was designed by DeviantArt with somehow even less depth than the thing it's ripping off.
>>338613192
>You guys are seriously underestimating how much people like this game and how active of a community it already has.
What? just because a handful of people re-traced some maymay reaction images it = a community.
Welcome to any game with "Characters" ever. Go to /vg/ and open any general, it's full of that garbage.
>>338610106
> 1942 was like Vietnam was like 2 was like 2142 was like Bad Company 1 and 2 was like 3.
wew lad
>>338613471
lol and overwatch looks like a generic pixar movie
Fuck this guy --> >>338613813
>>338613602
Not unless you suck at video games.
>>338612918
>That was the best period of the fucking game, back when you knew exactly what you were up against in every encounter instead of having to guess which retarded loadout someone was running.
Amen to that
That's actually one of the biggest reasons I like OW, it reminds me of vanilla TF2 in that regard
Instead of adding dumb new weapons, they'll just add new heroes
>>338613830
I don't think no one got bored with it, I onlysaid that I don't know anyone who did.
I've got nothing on ya if you think it's boring, because everyone can have their own opinions.
It's just that my experience is, that most people liked it.
>>338612807
>How is Overwatch a cashgrab?
By being the end result of cramming all the unused assets from the games they never released, dumping the budget into marketing, and then shoving it out the door?
>>338608778
>TORTANIC
nah
it aint gonna make $100 million every year
Overwatch aint that profitable
>>338613743
>Except there was a standalone version
Yeah, later and not at release. It was sold at 20$ and the game had more content then.
Overwatch is sold at 40-60$, is a AAA game with heavy marketing and has only slightly more content than TF2 did back then.
How can you not understand that people think Overwatch is overpriced and poor value?
>>338613327
Nah son, you quickly changed subjets. Skins, taunts, voices lines and even those sprays are considered content no matter how hard you try to deny it.
I see myself enjoying those 3 months you guys are saying the game is going to be alive.
That's already enough value to me.
>>338613812
I feel like the balance was very much tainted by giving short ranged classes long range alternatives and vice-versa. What was an instant recognition became delayed.
>>338610439
TORtanic V2 When?
>>338611674
thats pretty fair
>>338613476
God why is the artstyle for that game so shitty
>>338614034
>only slightly more content than TF2
More than double the amount of content that launch TF2 had, actually; and for $40, which is double the price, which is fair to me
>>338613004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8_d79V-o20
>>338614062
If the game goes to /vg/, it'll just be filled with shills and morons jerking each other off. At least here we can laugh at the retarded kids and their first ever FPS launch.
>>338614062
Hear this anon for he is right
>>338613967
Comparing it with Pixar is bad now?
I thought this board wanted a game that had toy story level graphics.
>>338613330
Holy shit dude you need to calm down. I understand that you really really like Blizzard but there's no need to get this upset over someone stating facts.
Just look at
Magic -> Hearthstone
LoL -> HotS
TF2 -> Overwatch
You see the trend here? It doesn't mean that the games aren't fun. Fun is entirely subjective but Blizzard's games are objectively simpler
>>338608684
Comparing 2 totally different games and genres.... Peasant Logic....
>>338614009
You mean unused assets from unreleased games appeared magically and they didn't work on them at some point? Also, literally only Tracer is confirmed to be from Titan.
>>338614034
pretty sure tf2 had fewer maps at release
>>338613967
Now that I think about it, it does look like a Pixar game.
Thanks Anon, now I like the game even more.
>>338614038
>Nah son, you quickly changed subjets.
Sure, right now I'm talking about american football and not how shallow and low on content the game is. You're totally right.
>Skins, taunts, voices lines and even those sprays are considered content no matter how hard you try to deny it.
Yeah man, fuck stuff that actually keeps people around like modes and shit. So long as we got that sweet taunt and recolor I'm all set to play this game for 2 years straight.
>>338609438
Holy shit i never thought of this. TF2 used to be awesome when it was P2P. I dropped it shortly after they released hats and went F2P.
Im about to shill the fuck out of overwatch to get these turds out of TF2.
Make TF2 Great Again!
>>338614163
TF2 had more than the launch content when it was sold as the standalone $20 version, you fucking blind motherfucker, just like the post you're responding to said.
>>338614163
>>More than double the amount of content that launch TF2 had, actually;
Not only is this clearly not true if you had actually played the game instead of just directly comparing numbers like a child, but even if it was true, double the content today will be 1/100th of the content in 6 months because Blizzard won't allow custom maps or gamemodes.
Double the heroes means fucking nothing. Games with a single fucking class have more depth and content than OW.
>>338613329
>Why do people bitch about this so much? Not every single fucking game needs to be modded like Skyrim for fucks sake.
Because you're now completely dependent on Blizzard for content.
How's that working out for WoW players?
How about Starcraft 2 players?
Diablo 3 players?
Surely it's working out for Heroes of the Storm players? Right?
It's almost, like there's a running trend of content stagnation for modern blizzard games... Strange.
But, It's going to be different this time! Because this games super hyped and popular and will generate loads of money... just like... all those other games...
>>338613859
Do you suppose people on him really are legitimately mad about this, or are they just going for some easy yous? Hard to say with this site. But I like to think they are so furious and will eventually get fed up and quit the site while we continue enjoying ourselves.
>>338613819
>No private servers
>No combat depth
>Switch2Win hero countering
If this pile of shit didn't have MUH WAIFOOS and a gorillion dollar marketing budget then nobody would care about it.
>>338614150
It's what Gearbox deserves.
Gearbox is basically deviantart.
>>338610106
I know using CoD/BF as comparison examples is the norm but in this case CoD is actually more varied
Overwatch is gonna be the first western game that im buying since Warcraft 3.
Why is Blizzard marketing so good?
>>338614416
>having more options for heroes doesn't mean anything because I said it doesn't
>>338614427
I legitimately think he's for real, but even if he's not, it didn't take too much to respond lol.
I just look forward to these guys keep denying that Overwatch is gud even after it turns out to be gud.
>tfw Overwatch will literally be the greatest game ever made
>>338614540
They should have the marketing team make the games, maybe they would be fun then.
>>338614425
Those games are all doing fine tho
>>338614150
You mean an artstyle that is not targeted to weeb waifufags?
>>338613838
50 hours is quite a bit anon... Seems to me like you enjoyed the game a lot. I'll cya on Overwatch when they add a bunch of heroes and maps to incentivize your purchase.
>>338614221
Do you think I'm freaking out or something? I'm just bored as hell sitting here before my shift starts. I'm in a really good mood for a change, probably because Overwatch and Total War are coming out very soon and I don't have work tomorrow. I agree that they simplify their games to an extent, however I wouldn't fault those games for being simpler. I don't see how TF2 is more complex than Overwatch though. Overwatch seems like TF2 on steroids, but it's been a while since I've played that game.
>>338614314
>Start talking about game content
>Change subject to gameplay depth
>He thinks he's not moving goalposts
lol
> taunt and recolor
Why are you ignoring the skins though? A lot of them change minor details like projectile model or the weapon model.
Alternate outfits were a big deal back then when you didn't had to pay a dime for them. People loved them and it added a nice replay value to the game.
>>338608980
I have a shit computer and I get like 90 fps with medium settings
>>338614540
Because you're not seeing it as marketing at all.
If you see it for what it is, filtered information to show you only the good sides and make you want to to buy their game, you'll see that you're getting baited pretty hard bt people who do this kind of thing for a living.
Marketing, specially viral marketing, is a science. Falling for it is your own damn fault.
>tfw just pre-ordering it now
WISH ME LUCK /V/
First time getting on the hype train since Rome 2
>>338614695
Shitting on post RoS Diablo 3 is the most hilarious meme of all time desu, servers are literally full of people since seasons are a thing kek.
>>338614768
Talking about HotS btw
So do you think Valve will actually work on TF3 now that their market share might possibly be threatened by Overmeme or what?
>>338614723
>>50 hours is quite a bit anon...
For a MP FPS, it's absolutely nothing. Most people put around 3-10,000 hours into TF2 before getting bored.
They could add another 20 heroes, and I wouldn't give a shit. They could add a dozen maps, and I wouldn't give a shit. The content gap between TF2 and OW is the fucking grand canyon.
I cannot be the only one that cares more about the PreRec review of Overwatch than the game itself.
>>338609438
>13 year old fags will move from TF2 to Overwatch
13 year old fags plagued TF2 because they made it free to begin with.
How do you expect them to move to OW if they have to go through a paywall?
And not all of them have mommy's credit card to begin with.
>>338614864
>/V/
You'll get no luck from me.
>>338614723
Overwatch has lots of autoaim and press to get kill ultimates and stuff like that. Makes it easier for people who are bad at videogames
>>338614927
When will you start providing facts to back up your argument tho?
>>338612794
Yeah but people can spend years learning the ins and outs of that one map. I doubt the same will be true of overwatch.
>>338614723
>50 hours is quite a bit
Are you retarded? Its fucking nothing for MP.
>>338614939
13 year old fags that ruined tf2 when it went f2p are now 18
>>338614927
50 hours for a beta WEEKEND is quite a bit, man. TF2 has also been out for 10 years or so, I'd be blown away if Overwatch had more content. I feel like you're telling yourself all this shit so you don't have to spend money, but whatever.
>>338613004
You just think that because server side hit detection is shit. In TF2's defense the game is ten years old so I'm not about to fault it for it. The minigun is indeed hitscan. It should hit whatever you aim at. If it doesn't it's because of the networking.
Wishing Overwatch should emulate TF2's shortcomings is just insane, frankly. The sad display of a man whose mind is governed by memes.
>>338614924
During the OW beta TF2 had a playerbase hit of 10%.
They can recoup that with a new update with nothing but fancy hats.
You guys know your supposed to only play video games for 45 minute at a time with 15 minute breaks and stop after 2 hours per day at most or you overdo it and get bored right?
>>338614924
>TF3
There's been no sign of Valve working on a TF3, but we've gotten plenty of hints for shit like L4D3. I can't see them caring about Overwatch enough to start pouring money into TF3.
>>338615008
As if you couldn't avoid literally all of them lmao.
>>338608684
>heroes
>a mei zing
ok thats it im done with the cringe. i wont buy this or other blizzard games ever again
>>338612470
20 classes is still greater than 9
Except demo and soldier are basically the same so it's more like 20 > 8
>>338613931
True but not a whole team like ow has, even older bf games had it and a mode strait from battlefield conquest, eabf has just 2 players.
Battlefront community has been begging for it since it came out and for some reason they still haven't given them that,.
I'm still baffled how dice or ea didn't just bake a battlefield star wars seeing how previous battlefront games where pretty much star wars battlefield
>>338608775
They will add new maps for free. TF2 had the same maps for years and it lived perfectly fine.
>>338608684
Probably but I will play it until it dies or probably just until Battlefield 1 comes out. I will play it on and off when no mans sky comes out. If no mans sky is a disappointment then I will go back to over watch until BF1 for sure.
>>338613004
>hitscan
>bullets move very slowly
>>338614927
OW is releasing with more maps than TF2 did at its launch.
Also you can't fault a game for having "less content" when the older game has been out for nearly a decade
>>338615118
OW has worst tick rate and larger hit boxes than TF2.
>>338614723
>I don't see how TF2 is more complex than Overwatch though.
I guess you didn't play TF2 then.
>Overwatch seems like TF2 on steroids
Sure, that's a reasonable comparison. But the way your brain works, you have about 10 times the fun in a hard-fought, slower paced 40 minute game of back and forth than you do with a 5 minute cart ride popping ubers like pills, then waiting another 2 minutes to find another server where you may or may not be instantly pubstomped.
It's a far simpler game with much less potential for the construction and development of chokepoints over the map. In my time with OW, I found that every map always wound up having engagements in the exact same areas, because anywhere open was impossible to defend.
>>338612805
>>338612871
name a better one.
Let me guess.. Battle born? :^)
>>338615094
>50 hours for a beta WEEKEND is quite a bit
>he played 50 hours out of 48 hours period
>>338615237
You don't get it, they foresee the future. :^)
>>338615074
It's not like new f2p 13 year olds ever come to TF2 or anything like that. Nope. Not at all.
>>338615062
Holy fuck, we're talking about a open beta weekend. Are you so homestuck that you have absolutely no concept of time? 50 hours is nothing if the game is out and available at all times, but putting 50 hours into a game for a weekend is a lot. That's like playing the game nonstop almost.
>>338615159
>Except demo and soldier are basically the same
This is the worst bait in the thread so far.
>>338615119
>>338614924
>>338615124
They are finally working on proper ranked matchmaking along with balance and UI changes
>>338610393
Now only to prove that the unlocking is what people actually want the most, to which I can present the fact that people complained most about not seeing a completely irrelevant K/D statistics, supporting that people truly only want to see an arbitrary number increase, and not much else.
People hated that they would have to get to a certain level to unlock certain weapons in CoD, yet they still restarted the prestige level counter repeatedly, again underlining that they really only want meaningless numbers to grow to feel a slight sense of superiority.
Pretty much everything else associated with it the majority, at least the vocal one, hates.
>>338615215
>If no mans sky is a disappointment
>If
>>338615237
My point isn't "oh, OW has a little less content". It's that OW will always have A MILLIONTH OF THE FUCKING CONTENT BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH BLIZZARD.
>>338615334
>50 hours in two days
Are you retarded?
>>338615258
>b-b-but muh tick
Like you I'm no network engineer so I don't really know what it does. The point however is that OW feels great playing. Even the guy (who is an actual network nerd) who composed the gospel of tickshitters says in his video that OW plays great and that he is overall impressed.
But just because the one thing the TF2 server browser says about networking is tick it's the only thing you think could possibly matter. It's not. Just watch Blizzard's own explanation of their netcode.
>>338615278
I'm assuming he didn't play an exact 50 hours, because I'm not a retard that takes things literally all the time.
>>338614695
/v/ thinks this is alive but blizzard's games with ten times the players are dead. Also conveniently left out hearthstone
>Valve decided to add Comp
>It's 6v6
I thought valvedrones were saying that 6v6 was bad.
>>338615353
>They are finally working on proper ranked matchmaking along with balance and UI changes
I forgot all about that. Not sure I'll use it much, but it'll be fun to try.
>>338615397
I think you are forgetting that SC2 arcade exists.
>>338610994
yes, what about them.
You seem to know some intricate details so present them.
>People actually think vanilla TF2 had depth
lol
>>338615397
custom content is not always better than nothing
VALVE SHILLS NEED TO LEAVE!
YOU RUINED YOUR GAME WHEN YOU MADE IT FREE!
>>338608978
It's a ARPG. Path of Exile is the same thing.
Blizzard make good game, shame WoW went that way, but HOTS and Overwatch are great. Diablo 3 is a good game, just a bad sequel.
>>338613812
>The weapons are distinctive enough that, in most cases, you can tell who's using what from afar with little difficulty.
except there are loads of non-main primary weapons which you have absolutely no way of knowing that they're being used before they're actually unsheathed
>>338615484
>cherrypicking Quake from all games
Try harder next time, shill.
>>338615397
That's like including Skyrim mods as part of the content
>>338615497
>I thought valvedrones were saying that 6v6 was bad.
It is. We don't get to decide what Valve puts in their games, friend.
>>338614749
>>Start talking about game content
>>Change subject to gameplay depth
>>He thinks he's not moving goalposts
See >>338611507
Here I'll quote myself
>Overwatch is extremely low on content and is very shallow
I have never stopped discussing this. You on the other hand keep throwing out logical fallacies instead of countering arguments. Do you know why? Because you can't counter them yet don't want to openly concede.
>> taunt and recolor
>Why are you ignoring the skins though? A lot of them change minor details like projectile model or the weapon model.
Because shit like taunts do not extend the life of a game or fix any of the gameplay problems. Additional modes helps the game stay fresh and varied.
That kind of content is 100x more relevant than your character having different color or shaped hands holding the gun when we're talking longevity.
Now I know you're very excited to play Blizzard's next game, but turning a blind eye to all the issues the game has and why many people are turned off by the game is blind fanboyism and is something any sensible person avoids.
>>338614062
Dark Souls, splatoon and mgs was shill to death here and no one complained, let people talk about games, that's the whole point of this board
Not every upcoming game= shill, specially if you don't like it.
>>338615094
>>338615094
>weekend
It wasn't a 2 day weekend. 5-10th.
>>338615457
>OW feels great playing
Spotted the console fag.
OW plays like any generic shooter. It just feels slightly off due to the awful tick rate.
>>338615497
Highlander mode was 6v6 too no?
>>338615342
>he thinks they're different
I know right, one shoots rockets, the other shoots grenades, one rocket jumps, the other sticky bomb jumps, night and day really.
But no really Gabe you need to leave this thread.
>>338615159
>Except demo and soldier are basically the same
Yes, they both have weapons that go BOOM, right?
>>338608775
What multiplayer games are not repetitive?
>>338615563
>but HOTS and Overwatch are great
What did he mean by this?
>>338615720
Dota.
>>338615570
He's right though. When you play 6 v 6, the numbers of players you need playing a game is 12. Anything over that is "useless" because you dont play with them. If 600 players is alive and well then why wouldnt 6 millions?
>>338615645
Every single netcode analysis said that it's pretty good, but no, they were all wrong and anon on /v/ is right lmoa.
>>338615526
A feature that was heavily publicised before launch as a way to get old SC players to move over. There hasn't been a single peep about custom stuff in OW, when it's clearly the absolute most important feature of an arcadey FPS like this.
>>338615545
Kill yourself.
>>338615576
You're saying that there wasn't anyone who bought Skyrim because they knew modders would fix all the retarded shit?
>>338615565
>except there are loads of non-main primary weapons which you have absolutely no way of knowing that they're being used before they're actually unsheathed
Then you have to prepare yourself for those possibilities. Even if you die to a secondary weapon because you didn't consider the possibilities, you at least know better for next time.
And anyway, the secondaries/melees don't usually really vary in extremes from the stock weapons. The ones that do have some huge, glaring weakness that makes them situational. If you find yourself in that specific situation and die, well, that sucks. Play better next time.
>>338615159
>Except demo and soldier are basically the same
nigga shut the fuck up
>>338615526
>I think you are forgetting that SC2 arcade exists.
Which few people care about because anything anyone makes is property of Blizzard.
>>338615278
>>338615483
Open beta was the 5-10th
Also there was a fairly public closed beta in April, they opened that shit up to alot of people
>>338611609
Fuck off Array
>>338615613
It's pointless, this is the way /v/ is now. They will scream shill at anything that is remotely popular.
>>338615563
>HOTS
>great
>>338615497
>I thought valvedrones were saying that 6v6 was bad.
It is, TF2 tourneyfags are less than 1% of the total population of the game, and most of them got banned dueing the recent banwave anyway.
Blizzard making decisions around esports is what killed SC2 and what will kill OW.
>>338615757
Stop it with this meme.
And I meant they are great. HOTS is different enough from other MOBAs that it's fun even if you dont like the others. More casual, simpler with clear goals in mind.
Overwatch is TF2 with 21 classes instead of customable 9 classes like TF2 started with. Really fun.
>>338615768
he posted it the absolute mad man
>>338615497
>>338615585
Highlander is more like highly organized pubs that force you to use classes that are only situationally good at all times. Your own skill also makes less of an impact because deaths aren't as important when there are 3 more people on each side
>>338615613
Thats because those are actually good games.
>>338615590
As someone who plays on dustbowl 24/7 I can frankly tell you I don't give a fuck about other modes.
>CTF
Only one or two players actually going for the briefcase. The rest is in deathmatch mode.
>Payload
Same thing, except at least there's a little bit more trying to move the cart. Once it gets stuck it turns into deathmatch.
>Hydro
One of the best modes and valve kills it.
>Degroot
One of the best modes and only 1 map exists.
I won't bother answering your logical fallacies and backpedaling.
>>338615645
Being engaged in this awful debate I've learned more than I ever cared to about what tick is and isn't. And it's embarrassing how little you tickshitters actually understand.
The main reason tick doesn't matter as much in Overwatch is that it uses a mix of client and server side simulation/detection that makes it work completely differently to typical source games with server side simulation and detection where tick and ping is alpha and omega.
Again, just watch the video where they explain it. And watch the video the networking nerd who "exposed" the tickrate made.
Would 60 tick be better? Yes. Noticeably so? No. "Feeling" the tick in OW is bullshit on the same level as tarot and electromagnetic sensitivity.
>>338615854
Why is it not great? It's a more casual friendly quick game that look great, control great and does not need guides to make you a okay player.
>>338615708
>>338615808
>Still shilling for TF2
>>338615891
TF2 didn't start with customizable classes.
>>338615787
You mean every single jobless youtuber that Blizzard paid off to shill for them.
can access steam right now
if this is $60 how much is TF2 going for?
>>338615921
Git gud. There are shitloads of builds, items and teamplay actually matters. Its a better game than Overshill in every possible term.
>>338615789
>You're saying that there wasn't anyone who bought Skyrim because they knew modders would fix all the retarded shit?
Well, a lot of people bought Skyrim on consoles, so...
>>338616056
It's not for sale anymore but you can try the shadow of what it once where for free.
>>338615957
Wait, wasn't literally everyone disappointed with MGS?
I'm thinking of buying Overwatch. I'm a competitive players so hopefully this game won't get dull for me and I had fun playing Soldier alot, but I'm gonna learn all the characters well enough. This can replace CS:GO for me I hope.
>>338615971
I like payload maps actually. but yeah Dustbowl is my favorite.
Is payload race still a thing?
>>338615891
>HOTS is different enough from other MOBA
>>338616052
Exactly. TF2 started with only 9 classes, and that was it. Then they added items.
>>338615987
but it's not muh dota
did you see how the guy posted a picture of a dota pro with a goofy face? that means you lose the argument
>>338615585
>>338615869
Then why are valvedrones exited for it? I've seen /v/tards praise it a lot.
>>338616083
I didn't say everyone, I said anyone. There were a lot of people who bought the game with the expectation of modding support. Hell, there are a lot of FO4 kiddies screaming about mods not being enabled for their consoles nowadays, too.
>>338616052
>engineer can't pick up building
>vanilla demoman
>pyro with shotgun and stock axe, no airblast
>>338616131
It is. Different maps, different goals. You have maps where you cant even enter the enemy base and have to go after points instead.
Makes the whole experience different from Dota, LoL
>>338615891
>HOTS is different enough from other MOBAs that it's fun even if you dont like the others. More casual, simpler with clear goals in mind.
>"eyo boi how many friends did u bring to capture the objective"
>"ayyy only 2 my compadre"
>"tooo baad my meng"
The more you casualize a game by diminishing the importance of solo play and individual skill the more it goes to shit.
>>338616131
You can't actually deny that it's different. the fact that it has more than one map instantly sets it apart.
>>338615974
>using such an outdated image
Nice try shill.
>>338616069
Yeah, you can totally win the game alone in Overwatch. Oh wait.
>people saying TF2 has more depth than OW
AHAHAHAHA. Please. Stop. The worst CoD has more depth and requires more skill than TF2.
TF2 is literally baby's first PC FPS.
HAHAHAHAHAA. What fags.
Pic related: for TF3 fags.
>>338616069
And it's mindnumbingly boring to learn because it's still the same downgraded RTS garbage with nonsensical mechanics outside the context of balance.
>5-6 playable maps, everything else is filler shit to mask lack of content
>no ranked
>impossible to play solo
Not looking great, familia.
>>338614703
Who is it targeted to?
>>338616174
It's still like that on Xbox 360 and Ps3.
>>338616226
Go play CS if you're interested in carrying a team. MOBAs are supposed to be team games.
>>338616226
But MOBAs are entirely about removing personal skill and thus culpability from the equation. You can always blame your team for not helping enough instead of the reality your own shoddy play.
>>338615987
Hello, Polygon! How is your Doom review going? Did you learned how to aim properly? Oh yeah, it must be good to know that Overshill hitboxes are just as big as your mom's anus so this new aquired FPS skills of yours will be completely useless in it. Casual power, fuck yeah!
>>338615926
Highlander is fun, in my opinion. It encourages stronger teamwork because you can't stack certain classes to make up for weaknesses in your team.
>>338616123
Ever since valve killed dedicated servers it stopped being good.
One team always get the upper hand. Always.
Only once I was able to experience a close match and it was the best.
Wish the game had never gone f2p.
>>338616069
Except it's a boring fortress assault game with one map where you click somewhere and your guy walks over, and 99% of attacks are homing. As opposed to a better genre like FPS where moving, attacking on so on is inherently engaging. FAGs are just a bad genre.
>>338616153
Because /v/ is full of brain-dead idiots that think that TF2 is viable as a 6v6 game and think OW is a good game.
>>338616251
You alright man?
>>338616276
>16 maps
>yes ranked
>possible to play solo
What now, memers?
>>338608684
yeah shit gets old quick
>>338616069
It's still the same thing again and again.
I've never been able to play games like that again and again, they have to be quite open ended for me to play a game for a long time.
>>338616056
Best version is still 60 brand new.
>>338616267
>boring to learn
>dota
>boring to learn
Fuck, this place reeks of fucking casualry right now. What the hell happened to /v/ holy shit...
>>338616226
What? How is that not like this in Dota too?
>5 vs 1 with 1 minute death timer
>Enemies go for the base
>They win
Wow. HOTS make you collect stuff, this mean the jungles can do mercs and collect stuff or kill the minions for objectives alone while the team defend.
Instead of 1 top, 1 mid, 2 bot and 1 jungle, you actually play with other players in the first 20 minutes of the game. I know right, weird.
>>338616410
Well, you clearly wasn't in closed nor open betas, shill.
>>338608684
Overwatch has pretty girls.
Through dick, unity.
>>338616362
>valve killed dedicated servers
This is the most wrong post I have ever seen in months.
Also if you cannot pubstomp you need to consider getting good.
>>338609371
>waifu is for normal people
I want 2008 back...
>>338612005
Anyone who calls mobas casual is a fucking idiot.
>>338615971
There difference here though is the map quality. Overwatch match are terribly designed. But this isn't anything that stands out since poor game design has plagued neo Blizzard ever since SC2.
>I won't bother answering your logical fallacies and backpedaling.
Please point them out, I'm eager to be proven wrong.
>>338615989
I haven't played TF2 in years and if you call me of all people a Valve shill then you're not very bright. I am very open with my distaste for Valve. I consider them lazy jews that are not even proper game devs anymore. I have gone on several rants for how much I dislike Valve.
But please, throw around the word shill willy nilly when it is more relevant to yourself. I'm sure you'll win lots of arguments that way.
>>338616513
The closed beta had ranked towards the end. Open didn't. It will be back for release.
I played mostly alone and it was fine. And I like most of the maps.
>>338616332
>anon accuse you of being a website
Well that's a first in 8 years.
>>338616463
If someone doesn't enjoy the game to begin with they're not going to stick with it to git gud are they?
>>338616513
Ranked mode was available in closed beta
They only disabled it for the open beta week
>>338616374
>one map
Are you retarded? There are shitloads of modes, very popular modes, mind you, with a shitload of maps. And still you're probably bad enough to even memorize main map to play like a man and not a stupid brazilian ruiner.
>>338616556
It still baffle me how the concept of waifus attracted this much normalfags.
>>338616301
So consoles actually have the better version?
>>338616251
Doesn't even matter if they're both as shallow. Blizzard actually tries to sell Overwatch as an esport with loads of depth, which it simply doesn't have.
Like with Evolve, they're trying to force esports, which is stupid.
If the game is good enough and the community is willing then esports will form on its own.
The devs should only be concerned with making a great game.
>>338610618
HOLD THE DOOR
>>338616676
Sure. Go play on consoles with nobody. You have less maps, less weapons and less choices.
>>338616513
Saying that there are 5 maps is fucking retarded, no matter how much you deny it maps are not going to disappear.
Closed beta had ranked. It was removed from the open beta due to heavy criticism (on a side note it was actually mindblowingly retarded, and I really hope they implement the same system they are using in Starcraft and Hots).
If you can't play solo, you just fucking suck and you should an hero.
>>338616342
It's just too chaotic for my taste and I'd say it encourages less teamwork since there's just too many people.
Not sure what you meant by weaknesses in your team. In both modes the teams are identical for the most part since offclassing in 6s mostly happens at last holds or stalemates
>>338610034
literal retard
>>338610106
BO3 has a shit ton of unlockables though.
>>338616712
The problem with Evolve was that it had fuckton of DLC tho.
>>338616673
>4chan is the literal scum of the internet
>edgy kids try to copy them
>4channers get mad at what they have created
maybe stop being fucking retards I don't know
>>338608684
no it has waifus that faggots can pretend to be married to, it will last longer. probably too long.
>>338616543
>Through Porn. Unity.
FTFY
>>338616560
Are you an expert in map quality or some shit?
I happen to like most of the maps. And that's because it's called an opinion and not fact. Congratulations, you just learned you don't find the OW maps appealing.
Learn the damn difference.
>
Please point them out
Yeah nah, we'd be going in circles.
If they make starwars BF dlc with playable Rey waifu I'd play it all day long
>>338616424
>New interesting builds each cup
>New metas
>New modes for tired casuals every month
>New hot patches now and then with actual gameplay changes, sometimes groundbreaking changes
Just admit it that you're a bad player that got salty over your teammates shitting on you because of your feed or something.
Which hero is the not-Soldier of not-TF2?
I don't plan on getting the game for at least 2 weeks to a month after release. Just going to wait to the initial wave of blizzdrones and shitters to get tired of the game and move on.
>>338616676
I hear bad things for ps3 version, which is weird cause valve seems to prefer PlayStation over Xbox back when they actually released games.
Could be wrong though.
>>338616909
How new
>>338616278
OVERWATCH IS TARGETED TO CHILDREN ITS A PG GAME FOR KIDS AND YOURE BEING A TOTAL CUNT TO ANYONE WHO DISAGREES COZ THE OTHER AUDIENCE WEEBS ARE INSECURE BETAS.
>>338615149
Ok. See you tomorrow on Overwatch.
>>338611321
PC cod isnot representative of its life on console where niche modes do get a bit of play
>>338610106
everyone shits on cod, but they have like 30 modes. I wouldn't shit on cod, but damn, can overwatch have at least 6 modes, not 3.
No, because it's $40, not $110.
>>338616945
It's still the same gameplay though.
>>338616950
blue bird lady
Enjoyed her the most as a soldier main as well
>>338617030
I've just realized that I have every Blizzard game despite saying they are shit for 5 years
>>338615771
It's all about match making queue time, and its degradation over time.
My Heroes of the Storm queue times are 8-12 minutes currently, no idea how many concurrent daily players the game has, but it must be abysmal. Could also be a MMR placement issue. Who knows, but its frustrating.
For comparison, in beta and at launch the queue times were 15-45 seconds.
The game is also F2P.
Even in the Overwatch Open Beta, with 9 million apparent players, I was still having queue times of 3 mins or so, sometimes even upwards of 5mins, maybe most people didn't notice this because they got put into a Skirmish/LFM players mode to fuck around.
Maybe that was just my experience though.
I just don't really want to play another game, where queuing, players all loading, pre-match setup, endgame scorescreens roundup, all combined take longer than the actual match of the game itself.
>>338608684
YES. Without a doubt.
>>338616560
>trying to tell me that soldier and demo were totally distinct classes and that TF2 is better thabn Overwatch
>not a shill though
>>338616571
>>338616652
There will be no ranked on release. Not in a form it was in closed beta. It was shit.
>>338616751
I played over 150 hours of OW in closed beta and constantly queue into pros, so your git gud argument doesn't really work. Ask any pro, at high level having a coordinated team will win you more games than just having a bunch of 360-noscopers.
>>338616734
Vanilla tf2 360 is still pretty active and better than pc
>>338612498
Sorry I didn't mean to imply that Blizzard were going to achieve balance, but rather that balance was going to be changed, thus inviting interested parties to partake of these changes.
The game doesn't necessarily have to be better after a balance patch, just different.
Also, remember Overwatch is not Hearthstone. It is not a card game. It is not based on the investment and collection model.
Sorry Blizzard, my shekels are reserved this month for Doom, Steamworld Heist, Ratchet & Clank, TMNT, Witcher Blood & Wine and Total Warhammer.
>>338608684
Goddammit now i'm actaully rethinking about buying this shit
>>338617205
>at high level having a coordinated team will win you more games than just having a bunch of 360-noscopers.
so literally every team game
>>338616463
>MOBA
>Thinking you're super hardcore
There's very little mechanical skill, visual appeal, or obvious sense of progression to it outside a few heroes.
Why should I fucking bother with "gitting gud" when I can learn Gran Turismo, Smash, shoot em ups, Pokemon, DMC, and in the same months it would take me to learn the fuckton of setups?
Since unlike what people shitpost about fighters, you genuinely need to know a bunch of little details that looks exactly the same to people shitting around in pub fights.
>>338617176
What? My queues are 2-4 minutes in HOTS. Weird. Overwatch was in closed beta though. And sure it had matchmaking problems if a player left, but that's far from all the players the game will have.
>>338616751
And yeah, a lot of maps so terrible you don't even want to play them (most point capture maps like hanamura, volskaya etc.).
>>338608775
Unfortunately
I'm probably going to dive when it gets on sale
>>338617228
>buying Total Warhammer
Wait and see if it isn't shit first mate.
>>338617251
>Italian alien
No grazie
>>338617228
>Total Warhammer
>Giving CA money before launch with their track record of terrible releases
>Giving them any fucking money after Rome 2
You're worse than Overwatch fags. I really hope you die in your sleep tonight.
>>338617375
People have been playing it and streaming it for like a week
Why would you need to wait even longer
>>338616463
DOTA's community is toxic. Someone said GG after beating me the other day and I nearly had a panic attack. From now on I only play LoL
>>338617345
If you fucking suck, of course. :^)
>>338616915
>Are you an expert in map quality or some shit?
I have played competitive shooters since like 97. I can only compare the maps in Overwatch to the ones I've played and they don't hold up.
If you have played far fewer MP shooters and thus is less experienced and critical then good for you. But I can't pretend to have fun.
>Yeah nah, we'd be going in circles.
So there are none, glad we cleared that up.
>>338617450
>watching someone else play is exactly like playing it yourself
>>338617345
hanamura is literally my favorite map, and volskaya is up there. some people have different onions anon
>>338617450
>Why would you need to wait even longer
Because reviewers and streamers never play the game enough to pick up on bugs even if they're staring them in the face.
Valvedrones are worse than blizzarddrones, literally sjw tier of no one can enjoy thing if they don't.
>>338617473
You seem to be the problem. GG is Good Game. It's only polite.
>>338615974
Well, I'm glad to see that the reasonable side of this discussion has fine taste in anime girls.
>>338617593
>Play it before you play anon!
>>338617192
>>trying to tell me that soldier and demo were totally distinct classes and that TF2
So Farah and Junkrat are identical, glad we cleared that up.
>TF2 is better thabn Overwatch
I had fun with TF2 before I stopped.
I got bored with Overwatch 2 days into the beta and canceled my pre-order.
I'm sorry your shill powers aren't working and you can trick me into thinking I actually had fun playing Overwatch and didn't get bored with it.
>>338617473
>nearly had a panic attack
Why?
http://instasync.com/r/v4c
>>338617612
>The Rome 2 reviewers that didn't even play 2 hours
>>338617665
>not pirating it first because there's no demo
do you buy a book based on the cover too?
>>338617604
The point is I don't wanna play shit maps, but being forced to. Even fucking shitstain games like dirty bomb have map filters.
>>338617626
>Valvedrones are worse than blizzarddrones
This is true
At least Blizzard is actually making games still
>>338617743
I couldn't handle people talking to me. I left out the part that this was over voice chat. I had to go to LoL where there's no voice chat.
>>338617753
>promoting v4c here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjcp3gfw1H8
:3:
>>338616670
Like what, overthrow? Regular dota only has one map.
>>338617868
>i posted it again!
>>338617743
Because it made me remember all my inherited oppressions suffered by my spiritual ancestors.
>>338617395
I said reserved, if the game is shit at launch then naturally I won't buy it.
After SC2 (all 3 shitheaps), D3 and HotS Blizzard won't get anymore money from me until they step up their game. Overwatch didn't step it up.
>>338617562
It's called being open to change and experiencing new things. Also why are you comparing competitive shooters to a casual shooter anyways?
Hell, why are you even in Overwatch threads?
>So there are none, glad we cleared that up.
I already pointed it 3 times, won't point it a 4th time. Move on.
>>338614112
Now, Overwatch has to deliver as 8/10 or the general playerbase outside of /v/ will leave.
Look at Street Fighter V for example. If it turns out to suck, then it will die in a month, exhonerated by media articles, and will be momentarily revived for a few days as new characters drop.
>>338617712
Due to unlimited ammo and much more potential with vertical aiming, not at all, no.
It's like trying to say Ryu and Ken are the same in SFIII as they are in SF1.
>>338617945
you do know that everyone who wanted to play it has played it and knows what the game is like, right?
>>338617830
>At least Blizzard is actually making games still
Too bad they're bad and worse than their prior iterations.
>>338608775
/thread
>>338617891
Yes. Literally thousands of players in Overthrow only.
>>338618062
idk man the thread went on for 540 posts afterward so i think you might be wrong
>>338617868
But that's mostly true,both are cancer.
>>338618118
overthrow is fun shit but it has fuck all to do with teamwork
>>338618062
Tf2 seems to be doing just fine with 24/7 dustbowl servers after all these years
>>338608684
It's fun and $40.
>>338617936
>It's called being open to change and experiencing new things.
Which I am. I love change and new experiences. I love to travel and my work has to be varied or else I can't do it.
Overwatch however isn't as fresh and new (to me) as you seem to think. To me Overwatch is wasted potential and I expected more from it.
>Hell, why are you even in Overwatch threads?
First off, are you saying only fanboys are allowed here?
Secondly, I'm killing time while sorting through some new music.
>I already pointed it 3 times, won't point it a 4th time. Move on.
You didn't point out a single thing. Not one.
All you did was spout
>hurrr logical fallacies!
without specifying where or what. Instead you have constantly resorted to red herrings and backpedaling (like you're doing right now). If I really were shitting out logical fallacies left and right then it would be extremely easy to point them out, which you fail to do. The logical conclusion to this is that there are none and you can't point them out, but don't want to admit that you, of all people, could be wrong.
>>338618008
Ok, Soldier and Demo are identical but Farah and Junkrat aren't. Very funny. You live up to your title of Blizzard shill.
>>338618132
>idk man the thread went on for 540 posts afterward so i think you might be wrong
People are going in circular arguments.
>overwatch is x
>nu uh! it isn't!
ad infinitum.
If this thread represents the quality of the game then it's frankly terrible.
>>338615123
I know right?
>I PUT THIRTY OR MORE HOURS INTO OVERWATCH IN THREE DAYS
>THEN I GOT TIRED OF IT, SHIT GAME IM NEVER TOUCHING AGAIN
Do these idiots listen to themselves talk?
>>338618564
famalam, what are you talking about
i'm saying /thread after a thread reaches bumplimit is retarded
>>338618478
I don't see the point coming to a thread to talk about something you don't like.
Glad we're wasting each other's time then. I am stuck at work waiting to go home and play some Overwatch.
Replying to morons is a great way to make time go by fast.
>>338618686
>I don't see the point coming to a thread to talk about something you don't like.
It's called having an opinion. Very strange, I know.
>oh no this person doesn't like overwatch, this makes him a moron!
Fascinating. Yet you have yet to point out ANY of my supposed logical fallacies after being so adamant about me shitting them out nor countered any of my arguments. Sounds like the mark of a very intelligent person to me!
