Will Overwatch suffer the same fate?
>>338608684
yea.
>>338608684
Yes.
People will get bored of the same repetitive game every match
Of course it it's it's gonna TORTANIC hard amirite fellow /v/-men?This is literally you.
No because Overwatch has Waifus
>>338608794
>implying luke isn't best waifu
no because it's hyped literally everywhere
>people don't understand the difference between a shitty battlefield game and a fucking blizzard game
>>338608684
Mei is cute dammit.
>>338608876
??? tell me
>>338608684
The beta of battlefront looked amazing but that was literally it, the entire game is just nice graphics and nothing more.
Such a shame because i could have been Battlefront 3 instead we got Frostbytefieldstarwars with no fucking content at launch and a broken game.
>>338608794
Only /v/ cares about that.
Your average normie(The actual majority that companies actually care about) is just going to play, get bored and move on to the next big thing
>>338608684
wasn't it counting every login as a new player? So if you logged in 9 times, you count as 9 players
>>338608684
Never underestimate the power of blizzdrones.
People still play D3, and log in every season for ceaseless farm doing the same thing over and over and over again.
>>338608684
Unlikely, because OW isn't a franchise like SW is so it's easier for people to get into. Not to mention OW can run well on pretty much any computer as do all Blizzard games (aside from HotS which is badly optimized).
Also loot boxes keep it interesting.
STAR WARS vs TF2 RIP OFF WITH ASS
gee i wonder who survives
>>338608684
We can only hope
People actually liked the overwatch beta, so no
Your comparison is fucking retarded.
>>338608950
Pretty much the legs of this game comes from how comp and the other game modes go.
This thread is a perfect litmus test because literally anyone that responds "no" is an overfaggot.
>>338608950
moba's are on the way out.
TF2 popularized the concept 10 years ago so im thinking people will just go back to consoles, mmo's mmorpg's and casual phone shit
>This thread
More proof it's just filled with casuals and shills.
8get
>>338608778
Tortanic was easily the biggest cancer to this board. It was funny at the time but the board culture went to dogshit.
This thread
>g-guys shills are not real
I wonder what the guy who created Mei feels right now. Seeing the internet lose it's dick over her practically overnight.
>>338608684
I doubt they had those numbers playing it was probably more like 1-1.5 million since they pulled the usual shit where if you had a battlenet account you were in the open beta.
>>338609035
>>338609030
>>338608980
lie to yourselves all you want, but overwatch will be dead in a few months. I got tired of it after ~2 hours in the beta.
>>338609074
you're fucking retarded
know the difference between the console normie and tf2/ow/moba player audience
>>338608684
>Will Overwatch suffer the same fate?
Doubtful. It'll at least see more success over the long-term.
>>338608684
No, the Battlefront beta let everyone know the game was shit while Overwatch beta was actually fun.
Played the Battlefront beta - I did not buy Battlefront.
Played the Overwatch beta - I bought Overwatch.
>>338609183
>I got tired so the game will die!!!
eks dee
>>338608684
No, because it's a-mei-zing
>>338608684
Battlefront was complete shit in every way that mattered, I don't know about Overwatch, but I doubt it could be as disappointing.
>>338609091
>>338609067
I never even got to play the game and im sick of it.
tf2 clones where boring 8 years ago and this is just a knee jerk of blizzard to stay relevant.
>>338609185
Wait theres a difference?
I thought the most popular build on steam was a i5 cpu, intergrated gpu (inthell) and 8gb of ram
Let them play dogshite we dont have to fuck off with your 'muh differences'
>>338608950
I think you are underestimating how popular the waifu meme is with normalfags.
Good maybe all the casuals and 13 year old fags will move from TF2 to Overwatch and TF2 will be great again.
>>338609371
Are you implying SW is not popular with normies?
>>338608684
don't even mention those 2 in the same sentence bro
There is just no way it is going to live up to the hype, no game can. This game only got famous because of a certain controversy and heavy marketing, but i can already see people playing it for a month and then dropping it
As >>338608950 stated, normies are just going to check it out and then move onto something else
The market is saturated with these "futuristic FPS". The only thing that will keep this game going is the waifus and the porn, let's be honest. It is what kept LoL afloat for so long aswell
>>338609506
No.
>20 ticks per second
Yeah no this game will be shit.
>>338609438
TF2 wont be good until valve start making real games again so that will be never
Somewhere out there, a butthurt overfaggot is compiling posts from this thread to make the eventual "/v/ BTFO" pic when Blizzard posts some first-week statistic. Too bad he won't be able to post it in a couple months when this shit is deader than Super MNC.
>>338608684
Yes
>>338608950
I don't know. I saw a lot of people even here enjoy the beta a lot and will play it for a while.
As long as Blizzard can release constant updates to stir interest as well as make cash prizes for tournaments I am sure it will last quite a while
.
Battlefront sold almost 14 million copies...
>>338609571
jesus christ i find 60tick to be the bare min these days
People didn't really say anything about the lack of content in the Battlefront because it was a beta.
Then it was revealed that the actual game will only have 1 more map than the actual beta. New spread quickly.
Meanwhile, Overwatch's beta was systematically the whole game. The high quality that people have praised about will be there at launch.
>>338609074
>mmos
>ever coming back
Are you genuinely retarded?
Answer truthfully.
>>338608684
Yes, its even more shallow than this battlefront
>>338608684
>a-mei-zing!
>a-mei-zing!
Thats so funny lmfao!!!!!!!! XD XD
Tell me again how this game is not for casuals and waifufags
>>338609848
huh? I havent played them in over 6 years so my experiance these days is quite limited.
never liked wow anyway
>>338609863
>getting buttblasted by a small joke
Kek
If this game had a full male cast of characters like TF2 /v/ would give no fuck about this shit at all.
You can't prove me wrong because you know its right.
Waifufags are the cancer killing video games not normalfags casuals.
>>338609571
Its not gonna be a respectable competitive shooter anyway even if it didn't have that problem. Its fucking shallow as fuck.
>>338609863
It is.
>>338609571
>>338609769
It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
It doesn't even matter. Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed. Overwatch's netcode feels way better than TF2, even if TF2 on 100+ tick servers.
>>338609863
it is that's the target
>>338609762
And now it has less than 4000 concurrent daily players.
Overwatch is going to sell, easily over 7 million week one sales.
The Profit is irrelevant to us as consumers, It's if its playerbase going to last. It's a multiplayer only game after all.
>>338609965
I would agree but battleborn has waifus and no ones talking about that shit.
>>338609947
>nomal joke
You mean a joke to literal normalfags and retarded 14 year olds?
Cool meme
>>338608775
>People will get bored of the same repetitive game every match
By your logic every CoD game should be dead by now which they clearly are not.
Also the same goes for every BF game and many many other games from dif genres
>>338609863
I'm pretty sure this is bait but if you are serious... shit m8, you sound like a jaded, joyless person, goddamn.
>>338609980
Its a LoL like shooter as in the strategy lies in how teams can work together rather then raw mechanical aim. That is the biggest gripe most competitive players form other FPS's had.
>>338609134
>board culture
You're kinda the reason this board is shit anon.
>>338610034
>It doesn't even matter. Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed. Overwatch's netcode feels way better than TF2, even if TF2 on 100+ tick servers.
Sorry that sound like complete horseshit.
Tickrate is tickrate and i'd take Source engine over Blizzards 'amazing' netcode that cant even do 60tick to clients
the game is going to feel like laggy shit
20tick client = 20tick doesnt matter what fancy 60tick server they have
>Every thread being archived not even 30 posts
in
>6 Overwatch threads
>200 replies each
>11 Hours till release
>"Shilling doesn't exist xD!"
>Make a thread with this exact greentext
>"This thread has been pruned or deleted"
CAN'T
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP
>>338608775
Yeah it was getting stale on the third day of the Beta. I put in about 15 hours.
>>338610089
gee I wonder why maybe its because they are ugly as fuck and too westernish for /v/.
The overwatch girls are extremely sexualized and they don't look like some deviantart tier trash.
>>338609830
>Overwatch's beta was systematically the whole game
Really? I mean REALLY? After playing the beta for several hours and seeing all maps in all modes I got bored, stopped and thought - well this is just a beta and if the release version will have at least twice as much maps and modes then it will probably be fine. If this is not the case then the game is sort of dead on arrival. Shit gets repetitive really fast.
>>338610089
because gearbox
>>338610089
They're not aesthetically attractive though.
>>338610034
>It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
That's like saying when Battlefield 4 did that it fixed everything which it fucking didn't you retarded shill.
Battlefield 4 wasn't "fixed" til they had a clear 60Hz tickrate going on both ends, server AND client.
>Rating the quality of the online netcode by tick is like rating a GPU based on it's clock speed.
>that comparison
Fact is that the tickrate alone can make a huge difference, see Battlefield 4 which netcodes can be on the same quality level in delay as CSGO's when it runs at 60Hz or more
>>338610034
>It's a 60 tick, but updates are sent to the clients at 20 tick.
What you said is completely fucking irrelevant.
If updates are sent every 20 ticks, it's 20 ticks even if the engine worked with a million tickrate.
OW feels like hitboxes are absolute shit especially for headshots, but the problem really is the tickrate that's kindergarden-tier.
>>338610109
Oh poor you! Your waifuwatch meme game is getting criticized?
>>338610103
Then what kind of jokes do you like, anon?
>>338608775
Why do people still play mobas then?
>>338608684
Battlefront sold like fucking hotcakes dude.
The game's actual quality aside, the marketing and the hype surrounding it, combined with Force Awakens' was insane
No, because it's actually fun.
I find it to be dynamic and highly entertaining. It's nice to have a class-based team shooter that isn't a dick fest, too. It's funny that some people would complain about that.
Yes, the characters are a big reason why people want to play it. At the end of the day, it's all 1s and 0s, so you should be enjoying what you're looking at.
>>338608684
Overwatch has allready a more autistic fanbase so no
>>338610106
CoD and BF are like rpg with their unlock system. What does Overwatch have? Only cosmetic shit.
>>338608684
yep.
>>338608684
Obviously.
There's no longevity for a PC shootan gaem that doesn't have private servers, because then communities won't form and the handful of friends you started out playing with will slowly dwindle down as people get bored, and there won't be a way to make more friends to play with so then you'll be stuck with pubs who can barely count to 1.
>>338609253
This, people played the battlefront beta because they were excited for a new battlefront. When it wasn't what they expected plus the dlc bullshit, they jumped ship.
>>338610223
What is amazing is that these aren't actually shill threads. Not anymore.
They have marketed the game so hard that people are legitimately making constant threads. It literally has everything it needs that begets posting
>Waifus
>Console war tiered shitposting (comparisons to TF2 and Battleborn)
>Made by Blizzard
>Shit players complaining about balance
>Not F2P
It literally has all the things people love to shitpost about, so they make a thread and do so.
And because people hate those constant threads people make more threads in hatred which just makes things worse.
They shilled us so hard we became the shills ourselves, isn't that frightening?
>>338608775
I see so that's why Dota, league and CS:GO are so dead.
>>338609183
Screencapped
;)
>>338610323
BF4 still feels like shit even on 60Hz servers, I tried playing it recently.
>>338610130
Tons of fps already have team based focus on working together.
CTF already promoted it heavily.
UT have multiple multiple modes that encourages it heavily. Like Assault, Onslaught (ASSFAGGOT like battle over nodes linking to base), and Bombing Run, which requires insane amount of teamwork and coordination.
>>338608684
No, overwatch is a great game.
>>338610371
The gameplay is shallow and slow as hell. The skill ceiling is basically about as low as you can get.
>>338610089
The problem i can see with Battleborn without knowing jack shit about the gameplay is the art style, its really ugly and reminiscent of fucking stick figures
Who the hell would like that on their waifus?
If Overwatch doesn't get the depth it deserves, then it will sadly go the way of Battlefront. The largest weakness by far for Overwatch at the moment is the map design. Some maps are horribly linear. Some points are horribly OP towards a side. etc etc.
>>338610582
And guess what? Usually all those modes are dead and everyone is busy playing TDM.
>tfw newfags to pc gaming
>tfw never ever played a fps
>tfw buying this
I guess this game is for casuals like me.
>>338610582
nobody plays CTF or the other meme modes competitive its either duel or tdm.
>>338610618
Here he is, the man who besmirched the diablo franchise.
>>338608684
Blizzard games are never not popular.
>>338609183
Funny 4 of my friends pre-ordered after the beta and played the beta every day it was live.
>>338608775
What is Dota (1mln users online at any given moment), CS (600k online), TF2 (100k online), LoL (6mln online).
No. Blizzdrones are too many.
>>338610356
The ones that don't make me look like a retarded waifuweeb.
If you find this amusing good for you.
>>338610439
When you actually make the haters of your product to market it even harder than your followers you are doing something right.
That, or the whole population of /v/ is mostly retarded.
Eitherways, Mods are obviously letting people post 6 threads without punishment.
>>338610785
>Confirmation bias
Your friends are probably as casual as you are then.
>>338608684
I doubt it. Regardless of what you guys think, Blizzard puts a lot of time and love into their games, you can't deny that. Other then that fact, Battlefront was doomed to begin with; shitty business practices, a shallow core game experience, overall boring gameplay, all wrapped up in a comfy star wars skin. Overwatch is a brand new IP, and they still surprassed a STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT game in open beta numbers. I think that's saying something.
>>338610819
>TF2
>Repetitive.
>>338610439
>>338610767
How many people still play Diablo 3? What about Starcraft 2? What about Heroes of the Storm?
>>338610819
Seems like CS is slowly decreasing. And mobashit isn't that repetitive.
>>338610208
>game is GOING to feel like laggy shit
I played it, it feels better than TF2.
>>338610323
Battlefield 4's netcode wasn't a problem with tick. It had issues like people not pointing in the right direction, guns not firing, bullet damage not being sent, then all of it being sent in one single hit. Nothing to do with tick, it was just poor fucking net code.
If Battlefield 4 had none of those issues, no one would complain about the tick rate.
>>338610326
It makes a difference because it allows balance in instances where players do the same thing at the same time.
>>338610908
It says that you are a blizzdrone.
>>338610106
>By your logic every CoD game should be dead by now which they clearly are not.
CoD has actual progression and not just random hat drops.
CoD also has way more modes.
CoD also has a SP campaign.
CoD has some issues, but content and variation is not one of them.
>>338610994
I still play each Diablo season, it's fun for a short while as you try out new class builds but becomes tiring and repetitive real quick. It's much better than it was at launch it just does't reward you for consistent play.
>>338610867
It's a casual world we live in, anon. That only makes it more mainstream and less likely to die, but hey, i'll be having fun, how about you?
>>338608876
>MP only
>low content
What is the difference?
Also Battlefield 4 has like 200k+ players constantly across console+PC
>>338610663
I never found the gameplay to be shallow. That is clearly a subjective argument. As I play, I am constantly thinking of new ways to compliment other player's abilities with mine, and in many cases, opportunities arise at moments you simply cannot plan, you just need to have the mind to see how you can exploit them. Overwatch abilities are dynamic enough to allow for very unexpected tactical maneuvers.
The skill ceiling is really where you set it for yourself. You can talk about ults being cheap, too, but having the coordination to use them effectively against an intelligent team can change the outcome of a match drastically.
There are players who lower the bar for themselves. You seem to have been one of them. They're in every game.
>>338610819
What is Natural Selection 2, what is Tribes: Ascend, what is Titanfall, what is Heroes of the Storm, what is Left 4 Dead, what is Evolve, and so forth
>>338610908
>Blizzard puts a lot of time and love into their games
Overwatch is literally an MMO that failed to launch and was repackaged into a casual shootan cashgrab.
If they don't take a look at the 20 tick rate and lack of ultimate gain from being damaged, maybe.
Those are the two largest issues Overwatch is facing atm. One has you dying behind cover, and the other is the direct cause of the game's steamrolly nature.
>>338611151
>CoD also has way more modes.
That all dead.
Its all TDM with a smaller portion in Dom and miniscule handfulls in other game modes
And the progression is stupid as most people just prestige for the cosmetic look of the level icon.
>>338610504
Those games are fun because you actually work as a team.
>play TF2 on official Valve server
>scout is doing circles around me as heavy
>can't hit him with hitscan gun despite having crosshair on him entire time
>realize I'm playing a server side hit detection game
>aim in front of scout by a foot
>he melts to my minigun
WOW SUCH AMAZING NETCODE!!!! Overwatch can't compete with it's le 20 tick!
>>338611293
>Tribes
>Titanfall
Those games are even less repetitive than Overwatch, feature more content and have a higher skill ceiling, though. Or rather, had. RIP ;_;
>>338610908
>a shallow core game experience, overall boring gameplay
Sounds like Overwatch tbqh.
>>338608775
This. I was lucky enough to get into the very first beta wave before Genji/Mei/D.Va were in. There was nothing that brought me back to the game.
I also played when they were added but and suffered from the same thing.This game is awful to play without friends. Pugs are shit ;_;
>>338611321
>That all dead.
Like Overwatch will be 2 months after release?
Don't kid yourself, Overwatch is extremely low on content and is very shallow. To keep the game alive Blizzard will need to release constant free updates.
>>338611324
That's the whole point of overwatch.
>>338611170
>>>/reddit/
>>>/out/
>>338609863
This is true autism
Not like the insult people throw around but sheer full-blown autism.
I can't fucking wait until the game has been out a week and everyone is beyond bored of the handful of incredibly simple maps on offer.
Seriously, TF2 had more depth in its little finger at launch, with the promise of hundreds of maps to come. Sure, they eventually ruined it with retarded hats and weapons, but it was going great for a while. OW is an artificial hype machine sustained only by morons.
>>338608950
>IMPLYING half the reason LoL is huge has nothing to do with waifus
Just because the normal human don't go full autism writing fanfics, liking futa, etc, doesn't mean they don't appreciate an attractive cast of female polygons. Fuck, even the beta had a shit ton of Diva players, and you can bet your ass they just played her because she is a hot teenager (same age as OW's main target audience) gamer girl because she is pure garbage and you're better off with a 10 year old on Widow as replacement.
TL/DR: today's average gamer may function normally in society, but he still is a failure and awkward when it comes to interacting with women and getting laid.
>>338611526
I didn't get that feeling from the beta, it played like CoD, everyone was doing their own thing unless you were a dedicated healer.
>>338610762
Hey calm down man, no reason to get all worked up.
I only recently got into tf2 6s so the only interest I had for the game was playing with my normie friends.
Luckily I got the game for free since I wasn't going to pay for it. I'll probably play it for a week or two
>>338609136
>dead memes
>>338611293
Yeah except the reason why these games are not popular is clearly not the fact that they are repetative.
>>338608684
No because unlike EA, Activision Blizzard has shown a willingness to sink as much money into a game as possible to perpetuate it.
>>338608775
CSGO exists and it only has what like three maps actually played?
>>338610709
Let's not underestimate this. Undertale has waifus and it's game isn't all that aesthetically pleasing.
>>338611483
Titanfall sold very well. I guess that's blizzard goal - to sell the game, then milk retards with skins for some time. And they don't really give a fuck what happens next.
>>338611293
Left 4 Dead was massively popular for a VERY long time. It had a lot to do with being charming and having characters you could identify with in some way. The gameplay was very good, too, for what it did.
NS2 was a development-hell shit-show. That game wasn't even finished on release day, and I HELPED fund it.
Titanfall was another bland game with great gameplay and great hook -- having mechs in a FPS is a great crowd pleaser.
I don't really have to talk about Evolve's convoluted purchasing debacle. I think a lot of people lost interest simply due to how stressful the launch was.
>>338611507
>Don't kid yourself, Overwatch is extremely low on content and is very shallow.
This meme again?
>>338611539
Dude lighten up maybe you need to have a drink MEI-TE!!!
LMFAO I'm hilarious!!!
>>338610994
>What about Starcraft 2?
I still play that.
>>338611507
>Shifting way from what I was saying
I was only saying how crap CoD is.
Even then it is quite similar to Overwatch yet still has players.
Most CoD players use the current meta OP smg's and all play TDM so they can get the next supply drop hoping they get a cool new skin. In the heart of it its just running around shooting people, if CoD can be successful and only have that then surely Overwatch can too.
>>338611609
I played with friends and won 70% of my games, so I think team work is very important, or we're all gods at shooters.
Here's the difference, and it's fucking important.
During the SWB beta, every bit of feedback and people posting bullshit on /v/ was "this game is so fucking awful, they won't listen to a fucking thing they tell us, but it's only a beta".
Overwatch beta has been nothing but rainbow farts complete with a glitter confetti cannon.
>>338611472
Hitscan weapons are clientside. Maybe you should try lowering your sensitivity so you can track better 8-)
Overwatch is going to survive because it's actually fun.
The difference between Battlefront and Overwatch is 9.5 million for 1.6 billion minutes versus 9.7 million for 4.9 billion minutes. Battlefront beta players played an average of 2.8 hours per person, while Overwatch beta players played an average of over 8 hours per person.
My friends and I are without question going to pull out at least 40 hours from Overwatch, which is all it really needs. But I disagree with the tired gamer cynics; I think Overwatch will stick around for a while. That's how Blizzard runs things. They're going to do balance or content patches that keep people coming back to try it out. They do it for all their games.
>>338610504
110+ heroes with the same amount of skills and attacks with 100+ items to costumize rhem during matches
I mean if people are crying how casual mobas are then whats with overwatc? Or it doesnt count because the game has 3d aim instead of 2d?
Also mobas are free, and doesnt cost the same price as tw3, das3 or whatever game that actually worths its price.
>>338610847
>the whole population of /v/ is mostly retarded.
Are you implying /v/ is smart to begin with? Are you fucking kidding me?
/v/ somehow thinks its smart because they don't fall for Apple's iPhone and yet they buy the newest graphics card or console on the market.
I am talking as /v/ as a whole before you bring up shit like "but /v/ is not one person"
I got sucked up in all the hype... i bought the digital download for pc, but i already regret it due to the fact all the hype will be gone in about a month from now.
>>338611750
>This meme again?
How is it a meme? Are you telling the the opposite is true?
It's fulled to the brim with content and is hands down one of the deepest shooters ever?
You could see everything the game had to offer 2 days into the Beta and you can master heroes in minutes.
>>338608684
God i hope so I'm so tired of seeing all these paid shills shilling this game.
>>338611691
You are right but for some reason ugly humans with fucked up proportions are less popular than ugly non humans with fucked up proportions
I dont know why but thats what i can see
>>338611816
CoD is successful because it's a casual, twitchy shooter that rewards you for reflexes and feeds off your brain with dopamine every time you kill someone. That's why it's so popular. That's its main hook.
Overwatch has none of that. It's a team-based game with a gimmick of switching characters after you die to counter the counterpick someone from the other team pulled on you. Kills don't feel rewarding, and objective-focused modes are too hard for ten year old scrubs.
>>338610908
>nine point seven million open beta players
Patting yourself on the back for saving nine million people from having to pay to play your game is silly, and it's why I think the open beta was suicidal for Overwatch's success. I literally played, and experienced, every single thing Overwatch had to offer in a total of ten hours over two days.
To say the least, people flocking to play the free game, even for a limited amount of time, likely didn't have the kind of reaction Blizzard was hoping for. I can count on one hand how many people I saw claim that the open beta sold them on the game, but I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the amount of people saying that they got what they wanted from Overwatch's open beta.
>>338611472
>Shooting at something moving fast by aiming directly at it
>Ever
>>338608684
Is EA Blizzard?
Is Diablo 3 TOR?
Is Battlenet Origin?
The real main difference is blizzard actually puts effort into the game itself and then polishes it afterwards when things go wrong.
EA takes your money and runs. People have more faith in blizzard in this day and age than EA due to the fact they still update games and keep their teams around.
>Diablo 2 is still being updated
>>338608684
> sell 14 million copies, mostly from console peasants who don't know any better
Maybe, although thats way better than people wasting their money on literal shit like Battleborn, Doom or Call of Duty 2016.
I dunno why people are acting like Overwatch is going to lack content. They're already planning new character and map updates.
There's already almost 4 characters per class in the game. If people are not tired of the same 9 characters in TF2 after this many years, then I'm pretty sure Overwatch will be fine.
>>338610994
Just because /v/ don't talk about those games doesn't mean they're dead. In fact hots is actually growing thanks to overwatch
>>338612034
>TF2 had 9 classes, stock weapons only, and 6 maps when it released (oh and 0 cosmetics)
>Somehow 21 classes, 12 maps, and dozens and dozes of cosmetics and taunts are shallow.
>>338612151
D3 is still shit.
>>338611816
>if CoD can be successful and only have that then surely Overwatch can too.
Why don't you say that to all the dead games like it. I'm not just talking Evolve here either, but games stretching several years back.
>>338612150
Clearly playing shit games with unnecessarily high tick has ruined you, anon. Scout might be fast but he can't outrun bullet.
>>338610257
This looks incredibly generic.
>>338608974
Source? No? you piece of shit
>>338612217
Characters in Overwatch are much, much more shallow than TF2's, to the point you can more or less master them in like two fucking hours of play.
I have to say that the maps are designed horribly in overwatch. They are pretty for sure, but most of the time they are wide hallways that have a series of Chokepoints.
Which is to say I get the same feeling playing every map in OverWatch that I did playing Dust Bowl in Team Fortress 2. Bored out of my skull.
>>338612272
>In fact hots is actually growing thanks to overwatch
>>338610867
I'd rather be a casual and have fun instead of being a jaded retard.
>>338608927
they really had a lot of potential to work with and they totally just fucked it up in the worst way.
they forever sullied the Battlefront namesake. did they just not think people would buy a Battlefront 3 and that their fucking crapfest was any better??
>>338612162
Don't put Doom in with that lot you faggot.
>>338612217
People didn't get tired of TF2 because it had a very strong community base, lots of updates, and was fun to play.
Overwatch won't have the community base because there won't be private servers to play on, so it'll be popular for while, die, then be revived for a month or so after patches.
>>338612217
>They're already planning new character and map updates.
Blizzard can't even hope to imagine to even dream of putting out content in Overwatch fast enough to keep people playing. They'll have to drop huge monthly updates to keep interest high enough in Overwatch to keep seeing even a fraction of the open beta numbers they had, and I guarantee you they won't have enough people left on the development team for Overwatch to do that. They've probably already shifted most of the Overwatch devs to the next Blizzard project.
>>338612276
>Two healers are a different class
News to me
>>338612217
Almost all OW characters have more complex equivalents in TF2. Overwatch doesn't even have a spy equivalent because the game is so swallow.
>>338611975
>They're going to do balance or content patches that keep people coming back to try it out.
>Blizzard
>balancing
I play a lot of Hearthstone. They don't balance anything for shit.
>>338611052
>decreasing
not really and even if it is, you do realize that both dota and CS are well over 15 years old, right? They are both repetitive games which are in top 10 most played games for over 15 years now, clearly repetitiveness is not an issue.
>>338612276
TF2 came with like 3 other games at launch.
>>338612272
HAAAAHAHA
HOLY SHIT
HAAAHAHA
ARE YOU DRUNK DUDE?
>>338611916
It's easy to create a consensus on /v/. We're anonymous after all.
The posts below and above me could have easily been made my myself, How would you know?
It wouldn't be hard for a single person to give the perception that /v/ as a collective either support or reject something.
Image what a team of people could do.
>>338608684
Maybe, maybe not, Overwatch has more maps, free content in the future and actual good gameplay with lots of variety to make you comeback for more, so who knows, it might have a portion of the same success tf2 in longevity, before it went f2p.
>>338611970
I have a 144hrz monitor and I could clearly see the crosshair on the scout. When I placed the crosshair so the scout was on the far left of my screen, he died.
I have repeated this many times on many servers. It's just poor fucking game code.
Star Wars didn't have this kind of waifu power behind it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfPCxVMrY4
>>338612276
>are shallow.
When the heroes are designed like Bastion, a gimped engineer, etc. then yes.
TF2 was also one game packaged in Orange Box and was later sold seperately at 20$. The value is incomparable to a AAA title from Blizzard priced at 40-60$.
>dozens and dozes of cosmetics and taunts
How does this add any kind of depth to the gameplay? Most of them are recolors or shitty as fuck lines you froget about seconds after hearing them.
>>338612337
I think much of the shallowness of the characters is caused by how boring the maps are. Only decent ones I think are Gibraltar and otaku castle. For all the chest beating from Blizz about movement options they didn't create environments that utilize them in interesting ways.
>>338612162
>Doom
Go kill yourself, faggot. DOOM is literally the best shooter of 2016
>>338612276
TF2 actually only had 4 maps on launch.
Although it was bundled in a FUCKING 5 GAME PACKAGE FOR 50 DOLLARS. And it had mod support and the ability to make your own dedicated servers with custom content, something OW will never ever have.
>>338612475
Probably because perfect invisibility is fucking stupid.
If you are going to have it then make it halo style camo.
You need to kill yourself if you think spy is a clever class.
>>338610315
This cannot be real.
>>338612582
Watch closelly how fast will >>338612463 get deleted.
>>338612151
Warcraft just received an (compatibility) update recently too
>>338612384
>>338612554
>no argument
At the start of the new starcraft season there was about 50k people playing
Will Overwatch be the next Splatoon?
Should I be taking screenshots to post once the game becomes successful?
>>338612309
And Overwatch doesn't?
>cowboy
>ninja
>dwarf engineer
>knight
>samurai
>>338611970
>mfw someone in chat says "well at least Overwatch has hitscan"
>mfwnf
>>338608876
I wish ea battlfront was like battlefield, it would have been amazing.
>>338612005
yeah dota has more items and hero customization, but it's the same map all the time, overwatch on the other hand has different maps and different objectives, so it's more diverse in this area.
>>338612616
>$0.10 have been deposited into your Bank of India account
>>338611086
I used to be a blizzdrone. Back in the WC3/vanilla/BC days of WoW. I would watch videos of the making of their games. I would get excited about G4 WoW specials. It was clear that they loved their products, and even though they are half craptivision now, they still put effort into all their games regardless of some shitty business practices here and there like the real money auction house.
>>338611305
How is Overwatch a cashgrab? It's one of the cheaper games you can buy nowadays, and every hero/map is free. Call it casual garbage all you want, but it's not a cashgrab. I'm glad Titan failed. I don't want Blizzard to be "the MMO guys". I want them to be the guys that continue taking existing genres and mastering them.
>>338611485
Maybe, but at least they aren't relying on some super IP to sell copies. They seem to have a lot of people on board with their new universe/characters/lore whatever the hell.
>>338612119
I think letting everyone try your entire game for free for a weekend is a really ballsy move that you don't see at all these days. For better or worse, they let everyone get more than a taste of Overwatch, and I applaud that considering all the other stupid shit that happens in this industry.
>>338612691
>no source
keep going
>50k
LOL
>>338612709
Yeah
Popular at launch and 3 months later no one ever talks about it except for the porn that came out of it
>>338612709
/v/ will simply ignore the game and continue to pretend that it's dead
>>338610819
>f2p/super cheap
If these games were 40 to 60 like OW is at launch, they would have never done AS good. Add the fact that they are toaster games and anyome can play them.
Not to mention unlike OW, they are replayable as fuck. TF2 and CS have mods and shit that OW doesn't. MOBAs are replayable because they are based on teamwork and that is fun.
OW is a casual shooter trying to ripoff a f2p game. It getting half, nay, 25% of any of those listed games playerbase consistently is an impossible feat. Especially when we all know PC suffers when it comes to holding a playerbase when it comes to a multiplayer, multiplat, non f2p toaster game, which OW is. It and Battleborn will truly be dead in 2 months.
>>338612524
>>338612607
So other games count towards the content of a game now??
>>338612470
Going by your logic, priest, druid, shaman, monk and paladin healers are the same class in WoW.
>>338612607
Are we talking about game content or game depth?
You seem to be moving some goal posts there.
>>338612616
>DOOM is literally the best shooter of 2016
How much Bethesda pays per post? Are you based in Thailand or in Vietnam?
>>338612691
>about 50k people playing
Are you suggesting those are big numbers dude?
>>338610834
>I like the ones that dont trigger my autistic brain to go into spergmode
>>338612709
Sad thing is, Splatoon required more skill to play.
>>338612601
Is there an Overwatch thread this ISN'T posted in?I'm not complaining.
>>338612709
Another dead memeshit game that only contrarians on /v/ still talk about? Yeah, sure.
>>338612276
>class count
Meaningless.
>stock weapons
That was the best period of the fucking game, back when you knew exactly what you were up against in every encounter instead of having to guess which retarded loadout someone was running.
>6 maps
Including CTF maps which are miles more complex than anything OW has on offer, and CP maps with 5 points instead of 2.
Overwatch is like junk food. It's bright and reasonably fun, but it's not filling. A match lasts 2 minutes on a bad day, 10 on a good one. Meanwhile TF2 had matches that were far longer and had a far greater evolution of scale as the match went back and forth between the middle 3 points until one team managed to clutch the win.
The maps in OW are so tiny that there are really only 2-3 chokepoints to care about on any map. That gets old insanely fast.
>>338612524
4 actually. And those
The thing about Battlefront is that yeah 9 million people played it, but how many played one match and found it to be shallow and boring and broken? Then how many played Overwatch for 48 hours+ in the open beta and subsequently bought the game because of it?
>>338612662
>TF2 actually only had 4 maps on launch.
badlands
granary
2fort
hydro
gravelpit
well
>>338612807
>I want them to be the guys that continue taking existing genres and mastering them.
Sorry to break it to you but they are the guys who take existing genres and casualize them for the general public
>>338612307
TF2 is not a milsim, Heavy's bullets move very slowly(comparatively), you have to lead everything quite a bit. It has nothing to do with "netcode", it's just a fun game that's less about headshots than what you're used to.
>>338611185
Battlefront literally has 4 maps and two of them are a made of the same assets and barely different except for objectives.
Overwatch 12 multi-layered maps (some levels consist of 2 to 3 sub-maps).
Overwatch IS kinda low on content, but Battlefront literally has no content at all.
>>338612524
Are we talking about a single game or game packages here?
You guys seem to desperately move goalposts.
>>338612845
>So other games count towards the content of a game now??
You fail to grasp that TF2 was a small part of a big package and was later sold for at least half the price of Overwatch full price. It also had mod support.
Overwatch is a full priced AAA game that has barely more content than TF2 did.
If you can't comprehend why people consider this an issue then you're not very bright.
>>338612973
>badlands
I meant dustbowl whoops
>>338610130
Having to work together as a team makes a game a MOBA? Are you fucking retarded?
>>338608950
>normies
>playing on pc
>playing anything blizzard
Your definition of normie must be really broad
besides the /v/ that's committed to it, the rest of the majority will most likely be people that have bought every blizzard game past WoW to now
>>338610034
holy shit, overchildren literally believe this
>For Consolefags and Moviefanboys
>For PCgamers and E-sports athletes
>same
>>338612709
Difference is OW threads are already getting deleted unlike Shitoon spam last may
You guys are seriously underestimating how much people like this game and how active of a community it already has.
Battlefront was just a nice looking Battlefield reskin for a franchise that hasnt had an active game in years, while Overwatch has a built in Blizzard playerbase in addition to MOBAfags, waifufags, TF2fags, etc.
Just the fact that its made by Blizzard is evidence enough that it will do well for a few years
>>338613006
Battlefront has 4 big maps, there is like 10 maps total. However, there is like 9 game modes that can be used on multiple maps. 1 mode can be used on 2-4 maps for instance
In Overwatch, there is 12 maps but only 3.5 modes. Maps are TIED TO MODES. Why can't a hybrid map be used for Attack/Defend? Why can't they just slap a Payload on Attack/Defend maps? Why can't they make KOTH on Attack/Defend maps and have multiple points to stop camping?
>>338612807
>For better or worse, they let everyone get more than a taste of Overwatch, and I applaud that considering all the other stupid shit that happens in this industry.
I won't argue it's a ballsy move, but the idea of 'giving them a taste and taking it away from them immediately after' only works in specific circumstances. Blizzard leaving the closed beta mostly to streamers and Youtubers was fucking golden, because it accomplished what they were trying to do: give people a taste of Overwatch and entice them to buy it.
By having the Open Beta, they literally allowed almost ten million people to experience the game, and the vast majority of them said 'Well, I experienced everything from Overwatch that I felt I needed to experience.'. You're literally throwing away millions of sales to convince a few thousand people to buy your product.
>competiitive Overwatch
>Only 2 character of each team have to aim
>>338612421
> worst rated beta in the history of Steam
This is a daily reminder that Bethesda actually thought that Doom was going to sell primarily on its multiplayer mode.
>>338608684
Not after that killer pun.
>>338611539
>mu....muh waifugame is getting criticized!!!!!!
Kys you weeb. If you find this funny just kys.
>>338612879
>50k concurrently isn't big
Nice meme
>>338612805
>$0.10
Damn, Randy's personally giving me $0.05 per post. Guess I backed the wrong guy.
>>338612601
>neo
Lose every time
>>338612959
>I played OW a bunch so obviously EVERYONE played OW a bunch!
This game is going to sell well. Not because it's good, but because they've pulled out all the stops on advertising and carefully planned the beta to coincide with when people are most willing to buy the game, which is why there was a 2 week break between it and the launch.
Battlefront sold well too. But nobody is playing it a few months on, because it has a handful of maps and no longevity. OW is the exact same, no matter how much you want to pretend that the fun will last forever.
But hey, maybe you put 10,000 hours into 2fort, and you'll have loads of fun with OW.
>>338612870
>Are we talking about game content or game depth?
Both, but you lumped up content with depth. Taunts don't add depth.
Also whoop di fuck if you think anyone with a brain would give a shit about some shitty recolor you don't even see yourself when you play over having more modes and shit.
>You seem to be moving some goal posts there.
The only one resorting to logical fallacies is you here.
I have remained firm in that the game is low on content and shallow.
Also you completeley disregard the value. For what you pay you get almost nothing.
>>338612662
>dedicated servers
I can live just fine without it. Mostly because it's not F2P. In TF2 going to a pub means you'll get shitters and the like.
>custom content
Why do people bitch about this so much? Not every single fucking game needs to be modded like Skyrim for fucks sake.
Also, I rather let them keep it that way so we don't see retarded mods like those pony servers.
>>338612989
Oh yeah I forgot I was talking to the most strategic, mastermind, gods in all of the vidya world. Please just ignore my replies, I'm obviously not as good as you when it comes to video games so my opinion doesn't matter. Are you excited for the next KoF? That's probably more up your alley since you're so awesome sick nasty at video games that the scent of an easier game makes you gag. I bow down to you. All hail random guy on /v/ that's so hardcore he completely overlooks fun.
>>338613192
You are implying SW the biggest franchise in the world does not attract more players than something from Blizzard?
>>338611626
Yeah, fuck that loser!
>>338613129
I was comparing it to Lol soley because it relies more on team work then mechanical skill. That was the only comparison I was trying to make.
>>338612879
For steam and if you aren't using the two games that are a whole power of ten higher than the third most played game at any given moment in time as a standard like a huge retard, yes.
>>338612805
>>338612871
>2 DOOM threads each with 24 replies
>1 of them is negative
>10 Overwatch threads
just stop /v/
>>338612741
The art style looks generic, not the characters you moron.
Add a fucking PLAY NOW button to the image and it looks like any other iPhone game.
>>338613305
TF1 2fort for days and days.
>>338612670
>>338613338
People dont play Star Wars games for more than a few days anymore
They havent since BF2
>>338608684
Pretty sure EA was straight up lying about 9 million people playing the beta in a desperate attempt to drum up a little bit more hype before it died for good.
>>338613006
Overwatch has less content than either Evole or Battlefront. Blizzdrones wouldneat that shit up though.
