>the only difference being that the guns found in Far Harbor have a left-handed loading gate
You had ONE FUCKING JOB TO DO.
>New Vegas had better looking repeaters
What went wrong?
>>338535806
The whole art direction and design in 4 is shit
>>338535601
>implying guns being left handed is the main issue
>>338535945
>Fallout 4
>art direction
Guys I already finished the DLC but the Brain Dead quest never showed up. Is it bugged?
>>338535990
Got teh one where the shell loops back into the gun during VATS?
>>338535990
Holy shit it's worse than I thought.
This is next level laziness. A dev team half the size on an older engine managed to do round-by-round reloading.
>>338536161
Ye
>>338535990
Why is it even possible to put a fucking reflex sight on a lever action rifle?
>>338535990
Did they literally just make a semi-auto?
>>338536217
>A dev team half the size on an older engine managed to do round-by-round reloading
Obsidian actually said that making round-by-round reloading depended on how many rounds are still left in gamebryo was one of the hardest part of the development.
They also wanted to make it so ballistic fist consumes shotgun shells on each succesful strike, but couldn't get it to work.
>>338536313
With bubba, anything is possible.
>>338536525
I can imagine. They still did it though.
>>338535990
>shoot 1 bullet
>reload 5
don't tell me.
>>338536645
Well it just goes to prove that Bethesda is going to put exactly as little effort as needed for game to sell.
What I don't get though is why the made the PC drive the bolt forward in all reloading animations, even though it was dobe right in F3 where PC would let go after driving it back.
>looping reloads on gamebryo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjH4s06XXQY
>>338536934
Fallout 4 doesn't use Gamebyo at all though, it uses a brand new high tech Creation™ Engine. The gun reloads like it does because it was stylistically designed to be that way.
>>338536934
I like that Sawyer is not afraid to actually talk about how the development process goes, even if there are things that he might not be proud of.
He went full autism when balancing Pillars of Eternity but I still like him.
>>338535601
With the complete lack of effort put into the new dlc weapons, you'd think that they'd have been able to make more than 6.
>>338537081
>The gun reloads like it does because it was stylistically designed to be that way
They were stylistically designed to loop brass, load all 5 rounds without any regard to how many are still in the magazine?
>>338535806
it being made by bethesda
>>338537081
Oh. You mean it's a feature?
>>338537530
Yes. It's an anti-gun statement. Means, Bethesda game designers aren't some firearm-obsessed school-shooting nerds.
>>338537579
It is!
>>338535806
Obsidian actually cares about how their weapons look and feel.
>>338537530
You seriously didn't detect the sarcasm in that post?
>>338537530
quick tip: he added a ™ so you it has to be a joke
>>338537789
>>338537791
Sometimes I just don't know anymore
Missed that ™
>>338535806
>The wood on a 2008 engine looks more detailed
wew lad
>>338537673
I'm not defending the design of fo4's guns but.
>>338535601
No, they stopped trying after morrowind
>>338537673
>Dude isn't the Maxim gun really cool?
>Yeah but it doesn't really fit the future-retro aesthetic.
>Lol who cares the 1880s are in the past just like the 1950s what are you a fuckin' nerd?
>But...
>Shut the fuck up and tune the graphics on level 3
>>338537948
>comparing a rifle caliber machine gun to an intermediate caliber assault rifle
>>338536235
haha oh bethesda
this is train on head retarded
>>338537948
The problem is that FO4's water cooled weapon isn't a crew served machinegun but an infantry assault rifle.
This is coming from a company that made a CETME and AK47 clone in their previous game, and even had that AK47 clone burried in FO4's game files.
>>338538001
Its jarring how much more effort Bethesda put into the world of Morrowind vs Skyrim. Bandits had fucking names and tombs belonged to families. Not to mention all the extra weapons and spells.
>mfw Admiral's Friend
>>338538241
The funny thing is that FO4 actually has different raider factions with their own leader who have fights with the other leaders and are even aware when one of those leaders die.
You just can't interact with them.
How a company THAT lazy can get away with it?
Games way more detailed with better game mechanics get trashed, and they just manage to go trough every criticism with their shitty skyrim and FO4.
>>338538124
It's not really retarded. It's a way to save resources by still using the same brass instead of making a new one.
It's just incredibly lazy if not downright disrespectful given that they knew it's going to be visible in VATS.
See, they did simliar thing in F3 DLC where a metro during a custceen was actually a helmet.
But in that case it's fine and actually clever because the player is not supposed to see it and can't see it without cheating.
>>338535601
Why bother putting in effort when the masses will eat up your shitty games like pig slop anyway?
>>338538419
Not to mention the gunners.
>Oh cool a mercenary group I wonder if I can hire them or if there is some questline where you can buy them off for the minutemen or something
>Nope they're just reskinned raiders with better weapons
>>338535601
>Bethesda
>Knowing anything about guns
Anyone wanna watch this GDC '12 Fallout 1 talk about it's development by Tim Cain?
I thought it was really interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa5IzHhAdi4
>>338538552
>That pic
High lel.
>>338538875
Just as the Talon mercs from F3.
>>338538953
This shit gives me Stalingrad PTSD flashbacks.
>>338538552
this is actually so fucking amazing it hurts
The updated survival mode is fun as shit and I like fallout 4 now. Fight me
>>338539428
I wouldn't want to accidentally step on you todd
>mods lock out achievements
>console commands don't
I guess???
>>338539428
why not just play one of the 10 million early access games? they lack just as much content and polish of a Bethesda game at a tenth of the price.
>>338539682
>mods lock out achievements
That's not even lazy. Straight up malicious.
>>338538552
why do you think I said "train on head"
>>338539360
>that gif
>my dog while playing Bioshock Infinite
>>338539052
>Talon mercs
>Even as far as mercenaries go, these men and women are vicious, killing anyone who does not wear their emblem (similar to raiders).
>The reason for this is simple: in 2277, they are working for an unknown third party, with simple orders: keep the Capital Wasteland a lawless, disorganized place.
BRAVO BETHESDA
>>338539998
Still not retarded.
Train on head was a clever way to bypass how shitty Gamebryo is, without affecting gameplay in any way.
>>338540141
I still don't really understand why it was necessary. Back when I fucked around with the Morrowind construction set, you could move objects around just fine.
>>338540445
that would require work
>>338540445
Saved resources.
That's like one of the first rules of programming. If you can do it easier and with less recources without any drops in quality, do it.
>>338540074
can you ask your dog to help me out on this one
>>338539798
You assume I spent money on this game. The last Bethesda game I bought was Oblivion.
>>338540832
What resources does it actually save, though? You've got one NPC more and one moveObject or whatever call less.
>>338539682
Quest fixing and noclipping through objects when you are stuck using the console is why. You do remember that this is a Bethesda game, right?
>>338535990
How hard would it be for a modder to make proper animations for it?
>>338541036
>You've got one NPC more
How? It's the PC who wears the helmet.
>and one moveObject or whatever call less
I would imagine implementing a moving object would be more taxing that just a running PC with a flat texture helmet. Don't know the exact math though.
>>338540953
woof
woof woof
woof woof
arf?
>>338541073
Obsidian said it was hard to implement reloading a specifc amount of rounds based on how many are left in the magazine.
So, probably hard but possible.
>>338541073
considering bethesda is payed for it, and they aren't, harderfinancially, but easy as fuck in reality
Why stick with Gamebryo? They have access to better engines, and can build their own.
>>338541320
Fucking Gamebryo.
>>338541003
>I pirated it so it doesn't matter that i enjoy shit
did I get that right?
you can play literally anything thanks to piracy so why fucking fallout 4?
>>338541313
fuck..... fuck I knew it. god damnit I've spent all this time trying to figure it out...
Give your dog a treat, on me
>>338541320
Wait, are there no guns in Fallout 4 that do that?
I could have sword there was like a pump shotgun or something.
Maybe they could use the system the laser musket's loading mechanism does.
is the harbour shit out yet?
>>338541520
Because I don't find it shit, you fucking retard. Do I need to dumb it down further for you to comprehend?
>>338541658
apparently, yes. I haven't checked myselfeven though I own the season pass
>>338541320
I feel like that's bullshit but idunno.. even The Division has reload animation glitches sometimes when reloading marksman rifles.
>>338541735
you must be easy as fuck to please
>>338541769
yea same, i've even loaded the game up recently but it didn't tell me anything about it, like a radio signal or whatever showing me how to access the DLC
>>338535990
Looks as lazy as Uncharted 4
The same shitters play both these games, don't they?
this is what it looks like when the developer actually gives a shit. if you look closely you'll see even the ejection rod is modeled and animated.
>>338542074
I still haven't even beaten the game yet. Not because it's too good or has tons of content but because it's such a mess of nonsense and meaningless shit I don't care about.
I was never a hardcore silent protag/core RPG guy but having the dialogue wheel and a MC with a personality (a bland one) really fucking killed it for me.
>>338541553
Yep. They already had the fundamentals in place, plus it would be pretty cool to have to reload shells individually, but no.
>>338542086
obsidian fallout 4.5 when
>>338535990
>a full mag, shoots one and ejects a shell
>reloads 5 rounds in
>ejects shell in chamber even though it was already ejected after the last shot, wasting ammo.
How the fuck is Bethesda even in business? Or is this a running gag that they fuck up literally everything in their gun designs?
>>338542020
Make sure the ESP is checked.
Also, restart Steam.
>>338542452
>Hey, the gun is supposed to spit out a bullet when you reload it right
>Sure, whatever
-is how the conversation probably went
>>338539360
that is adorable and smart
>>338540141
It's a joke originating from "pants on head" retarded popularized by Zero Punctuation.
>>338535601
Another left-handed weapon.
>>338542452
>How the fuck is Bethesda even in business?
When has DLC ever been good?
>>338542708
the sad part is that you're probably right
I mean Fallout 4 has a LOT of problems but even a person like me who doesn't know a lot about gun intricacy is still bothered by all the twilight zone shit they pull.
It's like a person who has never seen a fire arm reloaded or just the general basics was put in charge of animations, that's honestly how it looks like a majority of the time.
>>338543076when has a recent bethesda title ever been good
>>338543115
As someone with a passion for medieval weapons, this is how I felt about skyrims animations. Its like they have no idea how someone swings a sword, and didnt care enough to at least google it. Fucking Morrowinds simplistic weapons attacks were better.
>>338542086
>tfw you will never live in a world where all modern Fallouts are as good as New Vegas
>>338543362
>What is RAGE
>What is Dishonored
>>338542086
I´m impressed
usally they just stuff the shells into the chanber, without ejecting the shot ones
>>338543474
>>338543542
>Bethesda made Rage and Dishonored
>>338543542
>id
>Arcane
>>338543542
games published by bethesda, why are you asking?
>>338543469
>>338543115
>>338542708
>>338542452
That's what happens when the devs don't hire a military advisor / gun expert.
Shit on Metal Gear all you want, but at least the gun stuff is pretty on point, starting on MGS2.
>>338541985
just like your mum
>>338543469
they added dual wielding
they aren't even trying to be realistic
>>338543542
>rage was good
>>338543950
It was a better Fallout 4 than Fallout 4, and a better Borderlands.
Story still sucked arse.
>>338543542
bethesda is not the same as bethesda you faggot
>>338535945
No, the art direction in F4 is actually very good, definitely better than the one in NV.
It's just that the actual modelers and texturers and animators are fucking bad, so they can't bring the art direction to life properly.
Please learn the difference.
>>338543853
>That's what happens when the devs don't hire a military advisor
No, this is what happens when your animators and modelers are useless, lazy fucks. There is no doubt the people at bethesda know better: they just don't care.
>>338537081
>BRAND NEW
fuck off, mate
inb4: u dun't know how 2 code, m8
What I do know, is that they didn't need these chunks of code at all.
Also, creator of ENB, Boris Vorontsov, said that the render in F4 is complete shit, and Besthesda "continues to slap things on top each other"
>>338544125
Pretty much this. Fo4 has a very strong aesthetic, it's just horribly utilized by any of the people remotely involved with gunplay. Although, it's honestly probably too strong.
>>338543853
They don't even need a military advisor, literally could have done a better job if they just watched a 10 minute youtube video. Thats how little effort Bethesda puts into its games.
>>338544335
One more
>a game is now officially ruined because of a gun flaw
>>338535990
This can't be real.
>>338544518
It's been ruined, famicom.
>>338544518
No, the game is ruined because the developers are lazy, malicious and incompetent. Not a huge stretch tbqhwyf.
>>338544476
>>338544335
holy shit lmao, I knew fallout 4 was a skyrim reskin, but this is just too much for me
>>338544518
it was ruined since release
>>338544125
>liking MUH 50'S XD more than cowboys and rome
>>338544518
it has been ruined since the first gameplay footage was released
I literally lost all interest in it at that point
>>338544476
those are oblivion holdovers
wew lad
>>338535601
i go away from /v/ for a month and i still find ways to hate this game more than i thought possible
>>338541320
Most things would be hard for Obsidian since they can't even finish a single game.
>>338544693
>>338544476
waaaaaaaaaaaaaait
skyrim doesn't have classess
holy shit they're reusing oblivion code
how
fucking
lazy
can
you
be
>>338544335
>>338544476
this isn't even funny anymore
>>338544935
witnessed.
>>338544335
That's fucking pathetic.
>>338535990
this video is edited.
>>338538552
>people still fall for this
>>338544820
It's a really bad game.
The worst part is that the parts of NV that were bad were bad mostly because of engine limitations whereas fallout 4 manages to be bad in spite of the vastly improved engine.
>>338544476
W-wait
Is that fucking oblivion code
>>338538994
>>338544335
So you're saying the people that make this game are completely incompetent and lazy?
>>338544335
>>338544476
not the first time they've done this. If you use the editor in New Vegas, and by association i guess Fallout 3, there is a value for Frost Damage in there.
>>338545142
I like the way it swinges to the sides
>>338544059
>that makes rage good
ok
>>338545282
there's some references to VATS in the CK
>>338545348
Besides the awesome guns.
>>338544335
Are they for real ?
>>338543474
It hurts, guys. It fucking hurts.
>>338544518
Those are not gun flaws, those are flaws at a logical level.
>>338544476
that just looks goofy. why won't they trim this? i don't know about anything about code beyond if/then statements, but can't this be optimized rather easily?
>>338545131
I can't even just say it's nitpicking or "stop having fun" anymore. They lied to everyone. They swindled everyone. They really did.
We got cheated out of a real game made by hardworking folks with integrity and passion.
>>338537682
That's the main problem since 2007 games are not made for nerds anymore
>>338546645
wh....wha...t but todd would n..never
>>338535990
I thought everyone was mad at this webm because the shell casings or whatever were being ejected into the character's face, which is insanely retarded.
What's the problem here? Pretty much every FPS has 1 reload animation regardless of how many bullets you shoot.
>>338546645
>>338538521
They rely on first impression and hype
Does this shitty game have cyberpunk augs yet?
>>338546905
Maybe before 2001.
The worst part is that this worked just fine in the previous instalment.
>>338541872
Gamebryo is a shit engine with shit limitations.
You want a close combat weapon that can use limited ammo to inflict more damage? (the ripper) Too bad. Either it always uses ammo, or it never uses ammo. If you look, you'll see that all the powerfists, rippers, ballistic fists, and so on actually have small energy cells, microfusion cells, or magazines, but they couldn't bypass gamebryo's binary shit rules.
I don't know how obsidian managed to implement their lever guns. Are there any videos of them talking about it?
>>338546905
most games have 2 reload animation
this is just lazyness
>>338546905
Because the issue is magnified when coming dropping features previous games had and what other games are too lazy to do doesn't make any player feel better about the decision.
Man, if reloads weren't cancelable or shell by shell, I'd never use a pump or level action. It's a huge issue of viability for single and multiplayer.
>>338546905
The problems here are:
Mirrored guns, as you said
The fact that he loads all five rounds even though he only shot one, meaning there are still 4 more in the magazine. This goes beyond being just a cometic detail, as that reload takes 5 times longer than it should.
PC works the lever at the end of reload, even though he always does that after each shot, meaning that the gun would actually eject a live round rather than brass.
The second thing is the main issue.
>Pretty much every FPS has 1 reload animation regardless of how many bullets you shoot.
No. Most FPSes take into account how many rounds are left in the magazine (NV did), not to mention things like if there is a round in the chamber or not.
>>338543559
The guy in charge of the project took the time to buy guns, study guns, talk to people who use guns, learn about mormons, and get a 1920s ratpack expert employeed to get the Vegas feel just right.
Meanwhile, Bethesda has infinite money and time, and can't even be bothered doing the most basic of work.
>>338547254
Yeah, see >>338536934
>>338547515
and to think obsidian did all this with way less time and money than bethesda
>yfw you'll never see a fully developed obsidian fallout
>>338537275
If you're still here, Sawyer gave a talk this year where he talked about PoE development and some of his decisions and things he did not like/was looking to change
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1023481/Gods-and-Dumps-Attribute-Tuning
>>338546905
Most FPS games have a fuckton of reloads.
Look at something like the crysis games. Sure, they're kinda old now, but you have different animations for all the suit modes, whether or not you have ammo left in your boxmagazineclip, and if you're 'in cover' or not.
That's a lot of fucking reload animations, anon.
>>338548152
Thanks.
>>338536536
Is that a sawnoff nugget?
>>338548603
Yes.
>>338542086
I'm not a expert on firearms, where's the ejection rod?
>>338548926
pushing the casings out. You may have to pause it to see it.
I guess it could be worse.
so the real question here is, when is a modfag going to optimize FO4 so my microwave can play itas it should already be with those graphics?
>>338548926
Look closely and you can see there's a small rod protruding out of the chambers every time a spent casing is ejected. It pushes out the empty cartridge.
I'm no expert but I assume that is the ejection rod.
>>338548926
>>338549329
Basically this.
it's under the barrel, you can see his finger pushing it
>>338547515
New Vegas is actually a miracle.
In addition to all that, in just 18 months they managed to make what is considered one of the best (if not the best) Fallout games AND the single player game with the most lines of dialogue recorded.
1 8 M O N T H S
Bethesda takes some 4~5 years between games. Can't even achieve 1/4th of that.
>>338549167
Neat.
>post yfw you did not buy Fallout 4
>>338549854
>post yfw there will never be another non-bethesda fallout again
>>338549770
Please keep in mind that a lot of the heavy lifting for New Vegas had already been done for FO3 in the form of existing models, textures, gameplay systems, code, etc.
As good as New Vegas is, its essentially one really big total conversion mod for FO3. It wasn't made from scratch like 3 and 4 were.
>>338550027
dumb frogposter
>>338550224
>It wasn't made from scratch like 3 and 4 were.
>like 3 and 4 were.
anon please scroll up
Fallout 4 has Oblivion code in it
then fuck off
>>338549770
Pretty sure out of those 5 years, 4.9 years are spent blowing money on hookers, drugs and fast cars.
Just imagine there being a 24/7 orgy at beth HQ for 4 years and 11 months and then they just take the code from their last game, slap some shitty free textures and anims on that shit and done.
>>338550224
please keep in mind that had bethesda not restricted obsidian to 18 months, they probably would have made all new shit, hell, probably even a new engine.also have you read anything in this thread at all
>>338538953
What in the name of FUCK did Bethesda do to that PPSH
Do most enemies still hold nothing but shitty pipe weaponry?
>>338535601
Why is the stock so tiny on that thing. You can't properly shoulder fire that thing.
>>338550389
Anon please stop being stupid for 2 seconds.
Yes, Bethesda has been using the same engine since fucking Morrowind. And they've been building their new games on top of their old ones. Of course there'll be old code in there somewhere.
But each new game they make still requires writing new code, recording new audio, making new models and textures. FO3 is one such case.
New Vegas was built on top of FO3, so it uses a lot of FO3's assets and code. Hence why it was put together so quickly.
>>338535806
Because the FNV guys actually looked at a gun for more then five seconds from google images instead of Bethesda where they think of a gun then try to model it from their memory.
>>338549854
>mfw I plan on buying fallout 4 next week when I get paid
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/v4n9xn9.png "latest[1].png")
>>338540115
Caution: sharp edges
>>338550820
FNV also has a lot of new code for work arounds and shit that Bethesda didn't bother to fix.
It also has a new assets and much more dialogue.
FNV still required writing new code, recording new aido, making new models and textures.
>Grrr guns in video games aren't perfect representations of real world weapons!
I'll never understand the depths of autism when it comes to gunfags.
>>338544125
>No, the art direction in F4 is actually very good
If you want your Fallout to look like Army Men.
Everything looks like it's made of plastic.
>>338536313
Modern Marlins sometimes have rails on them. So yeah. Nothing wrong with that imo. Respect for the aesthetic is up to the owner and those sights are undeniably effective.
Source: some /k/ommando posting his post-2010 Guide Gun.
>>338551052
>FNV still required writing new code, recording new aido, making new models and textures.
Not on the same scale as FO3.
>>338550894
post yfw you realize it's worse than this thread makes it to be.give it a day or so
>>338551171
Did you read the rest of the post, you stupid asshole?
>>338535990
They have to be doing this intentionally right, how could they fuck up this bad...
>>338551208
you're right, it was on a much bigger scale
since FNV has 4x the dialogue of Fallout 3. Probably twice the text and double the perks.
Oh they also changed how Skills work. And dialogue.
>>338551137
>it's fine to have shitty unprofessionaly designed unrealistic guns in a game where guns are the core element of the gameplay
Consider suicide.
>>338551292
Yes. Do you need me to repeat myself?
>>338550224
There was very little heavy lifting.
All the old fallout 3 weapon and armor textures stick out like sore thumbs, as do their shitty designs.
Compare the LAER to the bethesda made laser rifle, or look at all the riot gear armors and compare them to the raider armors the fiends wear. Even their skull helmets are more detailed than their clothes.
The world is bigger, it has more stuff in it, and there's far more shit going on under the hood than in bethesda's games. They made their own script engine, they implemented 'literally impossible!' lever reloads, and incorporated all these other things that Todd said was impossible, like thrown melee weapons, seecondary attacks for unarmed and melee weapons, put in ironsights, secondary ammo types, crafting... Saying it's a conversation is a bit of an insult.
It wasn't true 6 years ago, and isn't today.
To illustrate, here is a picture. Also, there's more 12 gauge shotgun ammo types than there are ammo types TOTAL in fallout 3.
>>338546395
They'll want it in there when they copy/paste to make the next Elder Scrolls.
In all seriousness, I'm no professional coder but I'd imagine when you have so much code, it's a lot safer to disable chunks of it instead of outright deleting it in case something unforeseen breaks. They could eventually go back and clean things up, but at this point the entire code base has to be such a fucking mess they're afraid of touching anything.
>>338546905
>What's the problem here? Pretty much every FPS has 1 reload animation regardless of how many bullets you shoot.
You are out of your mind.
I can't think of a single game in which the incorrect amount of ammunition is loaded one round at a time. Not every shooter I've played actually has one-round-at-a-time reloading animations, but of those that do, literally EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM does it correctly. This video is a first, for me.
>>338551137
>grrrr stupiud gunfags ruining my perfect logically impossible airsoft kid's brain child weaponry
>>338551137
>design a math game
>make it so 2+2=5
>LOL ITS JUST A GAME YOU MATHFAG CONTAIN YOUR AUTISM IT'S FUN GET A LIFE xD:Dddddxxx
>>338544476
>>338544335
I look at things like this and weep at the thought that people still defend Bethesda as if they're game making Gods.
>>338551634
That might be an acceptable reason if Oblivion was the previous project or something.
Oblivion was developed 11-13 YEARS ago. Over a decade. That's enough time to say hey, it's time to rebuild this pile of shit.
Tood Howard is just a huge piece of shit and Fallout 4 is a legitimately bad video game. I'm sure it sold tremendously to all the 12 year olds though.
>>338544518
LOL
It's been ruined from WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than this.
Why don't you fuck off,Todd, you faggot manlet fuck.
>>338544335
MAGIC CONFIRMED CANON IN FALLOUT
>>338551542
>Compare the LAER to the bethesda made laser rifle
Bethesda's Laser Rifle design is much, much better.
LAER looks like a toy.
>>338552039
with the amount of lore destruction bethesda did to the series, it might as well be
*cough*
Hey /v/. Does my recovery wonders seeing you guys talk about my game. I hope you're having *cough* fun.
>>338549293
is this farcry2?
>>338552196
Shut up and die, you bald manlet fuck.
YOU AND YER LIES
>>338551846
Bethesda gets a pass because to the average normie, Bethesda and Bioware are the only two RPG devs in existence. Obsidian, CDPR, Larian, inXile, they all might as well not exist.
>>338552196
Oh, you poor poor man.
Is there any way I could help you?
>>338552196
I'm just sorry the doctor was unable to get spears working to combat your illness, Todd. The hospital just wasn't designed for spears
>Show a known bug in the BETA LEAK of FH
>/v/ chimps out because they don't actually play video games and so had no idea
pottery
>>338552079
Bethesda's laser rifle is a hideous hunk of metal with a horribly anti-ergonomic stock and grip. At least the LAER has the makings of a (playfully stylized) weapon.
>>338552589
>playfully stylized
Toy.
>>338552520
>implying it's the only thing wrong with the guns in F4, yet alone with the whole game
Try harder
>>338552079
have you seen the original fallout energy weapons? That could fit in to any 1950's scifi movie.
>>338551542
That image is hilariously disingenous.
>>338552759
No, I didn't imply that at all actually.
Try reading a post next time, champ.
>>338552749
Shit Anon you could say modern bullpups look like toys.
Not much of an argument.
>>338552791
Yeah I've seen them.
They look like shit.
>>338542994
>playing farcry 2
>apparently everyone in africa is left handed
>>338552791
Goddamn I love the original laser pistol design.
It looks like it'd be really comfortable to hold.
>>338552079
Looks like a piece of shit. The LAER fits the future-tech world perfectly, while this is some unergonomic monster.
It does look a bit better when you put all the Obsidian made weapon mods on it in NV.
>>338552889
>>338552749
>>338552520
>>338552079
c'mon guys, are we really falling for it?
>>338539360
To this day I can't figure out how the dog got it through.
Look at the length of the branch to the right, and when he turns it to get it across the bridge.
It literally fazes through the green column.
You can even see the length of it the frame before and the couple frames after the dog does it that it's indeed too far out to be able to just go past the green column, it fazes through it.
Testing.
Testing.
Whacky.
Testing.
>>338553059
Shit, just remove the weird tube that connects the front to the trigger and make the whole trigger area less retarded and it'd look fine.
Maybe put some padding on the stock, or widen it at the very least.
>>338552347
Wow. That was rude :(
I guess you're having a bad day. Hope you feel better.
>>338552387
Well...maybe...maybe buying my game wouldn't hurt. *cough*
>>338552514
I know. The hospital director hired a buddy to implement it but he just can't handle the job. Despicable.
Say, do you feel a draft?
>>338553175
Advanced Dogonometry.
>>338553031
Obsidian brought many of them back for NV, and upgraded them further with extra weapon mods in GRA.
Here, look at this fallout 1 styled plasma pistol. Meanwhile, Bethesda's plasma pistol is like the deus ex nanokey ring with a crystal array on the other end, and some tubes.
I just don't know how they can fuck up old fashioned super science, especially when they have all these old games to look at.
>>338552986
Fuck off then, the LAER fits the look that the series has had for energy weapons while Beth's designs stand out like a sore thumb.
>>338553175
holy fuck what the shit
this is like the 7th time I've posted this and I still hadn't seen it
>>338553357
God, I love the Plasma Defender. It's such a sexy gun.
>>338553357
Fuck were they thinking with this shit?
>>338553175
Holy shit
>>338549854
>>338535601
Guns guns guns
I only pull 'em out when I'm facing more than one in the danger zone.
For those moments, Overseer's Guardian is best guardian.
For the rest of the time, Pickman's blade it is.
>Pickman did nothing wrong.
>>338535806
You mean what went right?
>>338537782
>>338550845
You can tell Obsidian really tried and loved having a shot at Fallout. Like seriously, Sawyer went to test fire guns for New Vegas.
>>338553517
>>338553357
FO4's plasma pistol looks better.
That thing just looks like a fucked-up glock.
>>338553517
>that trigger
>>338553898
>Take the Glock 86 and glue tubes to it
I don't have an appropiate reaction image for this.
>>338553898
Plasma defender was actually designed by Glock in Fallout universe.
>>338553898
>JUST ADD TUBES
lol
also
>That thing just looks like a fucked-up glock.
It was literally designed by Glock. It's the Glock 86.
>>338535990
that is a boring ass animation
Can anyone make a webm of the NV marksman carbine going through its jam animation?
>>338553898
Because it is a fucked up plasma glock, you nigger. It's the glock 86. Gaston Glock, the pre-war owner of glock, uploaded his mind to a computer, and kept making guns longer after the world exploded.
>>338535990
I honestly thought this shit was a bug. We had individual round loading in NV, so what the fuck man
>>338553898
>that copper tube that leads to fucking nowhere that the inside of the grip couldn't go
Yep, that's Bethesda
>people think this looks like the Fo4 Plasma Pistol
Oh, I get it now.
You're all just incredibly delusional.
>>338553898
What is it with Bethesda and awful triggers?
>>338554783
Because they have never fired a fucking gun in their collective lives and prioritize stylistic trappings over actual functional weaponry.
See the retarded PPSH "combat shotgun" in FO3 and the billions of retarded pipe weapons in FO4
Keep in mind you are discussing the people who though a shoulder fired nuclear catapult was a good idea.
>>338554783
DUDE
APOCALYPSE
LMAO
>>338553898
>That thing just looks like a fucked-up glock.
yeah because it was a fucking glock
