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Bonus points if it has great bossfights


pic absolutely related, more people should play this
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I'm not going to dis the combat, but that game has the worst voice acting this side of the original Symphony of the Night and Baten Kaitos.
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>>338514891
Look up a game called Chaos Wars.

On-topic: Legend of Dragoon.
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Just finished the game last week. Would be great if there are more anti hero team bossfight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bhoXyFwV4Q
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>>338514891

I've seen videos of the dub and I was laughing my ass off, but I was intrigued by the gameplay so I looked for the undub. I'm really enjoying it a lot
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Star Ocean 4 has some good ass gameplay a-and I liked the story,
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>>338515518
Is the gameplay of the previous games also good? Have they aged well?
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>>338515982
no star ocean is a garbage series through and through
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>>338515982
SO3 is fun.
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>>338516449
Looked up gameplay, looks a lot like "Tales of". Is that accurate are is there something more unique to it?
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>>338517036
Close enough, it's what got me into it.

OP, is the game playable on an emulator?
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>>338517146
Of course

Only problem for me is that the game starts lagging when too much 2D-HUD is on screen for some reason, for example in shops. Other than that it runs great

Can't show you where I found the undub though, sorry. Someone randomly posted a MEGA-link in a thread once, I don't think I have that link anymore
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>>338517146
Also I think if you like Tales-games you'll feel pretty at home with this, apparently part of the Tales-team worked on this. It definitely shows
>>338517256
I should try this out again. I tried emulating this once but the first area is completely clouded with visual bugs
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Graces F
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>>338519860
Posting Tales is cheating
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>>338520568

This felt a little simple if I recall. Was there depth within?
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Endless Frontier EXCEED
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It wasn't that hard unfortunately, one good boss fight.
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>>338514591
>JRPG
>great combat
Choose one.
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>>338517036
Series was started by some of the people who worked on Tales of Phantasma originally. SO as a series is pretty shit, though. 1 and 2 are kinda alright I guess but 3 is crap and 4 is a travesty.
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Shadow Hearts, Judgement Wheel is a great system, imagine a clock appearing on the screen for every action you perform in combat, and starting from 12 it ticks clockwise and certain areas are lit up that you need to hit the action button in, crits can be guaranteed if your good enough
>git gud at it
>here have this item that gives you double damage on all your attacks but the areas are invisible
>sequel
>here have this item that triples your damage but the dial is also invisible
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>>338521879
As opposed to WRPG like TES series? lmao
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>>338521879
>I don't like it, therefore its objectively bad
There's a lot of tactics that goes into it. I remember hating turn-based too until I realized that, + JRPGs tend to be the best packages when it comes to story, music, art and experience

Also due to how the gameplay is bound to menu-navigation you have a gigantic pool of good games that haven't aged a day
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>>338523129
>b-b-but muh WRPGs
So you can't post one? lmao
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>>338515345
KILLING YOU DEAD
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>>338514891

play the undub retard
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>>338523526
Gotcha good!
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>>338523683
post it retard
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>>338523791

both undubs for baten kaitos 1 and origins are on blackcats

arc rise is on tpb im pretty sure as well
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Raidou 2. first game is good too but not gameplay wise.
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>>338523791
http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?95345-MOD-Baten-Kaitos-Origins-UNDUB-NTSC-U

https://www.blackcats-games.net/details.php?id=67657&hit=1

https://www.blackcats-games.net/details.php?id=45783&hit=1
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>>338524171
I disagree. The only thing that sucked was beelezbub and you didn't even have to fight him
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>>338524221
not him but thanks
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>>338514891
Voice acting gets better as you go along oddly enough.
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>>338524469
>L'arc chooses Ryfia over her
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The last story
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>>338524221
Are blackcats easy to get into?
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>>338524806

i have no idea anymore, all i know is that you need someone who already has access to give you a code

i got an invite code like 4 years ago when some anon posted a bunch

the main admin of the site said he banned everyone who got invited using that guys codes, but i still retained my invite
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>>338524681
And he choose right. I mena holy shit Adele went into crazy town real fucking fast. Not to mention she had a prince in love with her and willing to also go into crazy town with her.

I mean really? Yu jump ship to the other side because your childhood crush isn't paying 100% attention to you in the middle of a fucking crisis while under direct orders from your counties' leader?
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>>338525179
Sounds like no. So much for ez access arc
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>>338525426

make a throwaway 4chan email and ill email you one if my ratio is ever good enough to get an invite code
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>>338524804
What is the combat most comparable to?
Looking at the gameplay and I can't tell if this is an action-rpg or more of a FF12 kinda deal
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Pokemon Fire Red.
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Appreciate the thought even if it goes nowhere, anon
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>>338525781
>>338525521
Forgot to click the reply thing
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>>338525426
What is that forum even, and why do you need special access? Never heard of this before
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>>338526575

its just a private video game tracker
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>>338526575
private game tracker. Wouldn't say it's great but if you were looking for undubbed arc its right there.
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>>338523791
lel
I just went into my browsing history and searched for "MEGA", look what I found:

mega:///#F!Fg1jDahZ!DN-wgJlisu8A7hl7tBiNOg
I hope the link works, mega tends to fuck them up for others for some reason. If it works; enjoy
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>>338527203
Huh, it worked.

So that's the game with the undub already patched in, right?
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>>338521669
It really needed opponents who could push combat system to its limit.
Double penguin gods in total darkness and loewe were pretty cool.
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>>338527378
99% sure it is
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>>338527203
Is this a full undub or the one that sitll keeps some english VA?
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Arc Rise Fantasia is my GOTYAY jrpg, I know the story is kinda cliché and characters are kinda tales-of-ish but the combat and boss fights are 10/10, also great music.

Leslie is my waifu.
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>>338527794
I'm 99% sure its the one I'm playing right now (17 hours in), and I don't remember any english lines in it. I think there might have been one humanoid enemy whose grunts sounded a little english, but even that might have been my imagination.
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>>338514891
is the dub really that bad?

i mean, sure, >dubs, but how bad can it really be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4ni-LQfmU
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> tfw euro

It's not fair
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>>338528597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9u340JERg
BEHOLD
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>>338528597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zygDzAkothQ

judge for yourself
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>>338514591
I liked how it wasn't afraid to try and kick my ass but its just so stale outside of boss fights that I didnt bother playing past the mushroom people forest.
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>>338514591
Growlanser IV and Radiant Historia both have fantastic battle systems and I highly recommend them.

I haven't played Arc Rise Fantasia but it's on my list because someone on 4chan recommended it to me a while ago. My only concern is that it's made by imageepoch and I dislike the Luminous Arc series. How similar to other imageepoch games would you say Arc Rise Fantasia is?
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>>338528597
I like the dubs on 80s anime and Arc rise was so bad that I just muted it
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>>338528662
I like the other themes much more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeegdviqdW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSjiDh-7Ok

Also holy shit this battle was brutal. I mean there wasn't even a save-point before this right? I had a savestate right before it, and I thought this was one of those "you're supposed to lose" battles after it wiped me out on the first turn.
I got it on my fourth try, but I can't imagine having to retread that whole dungeon for every single attempt
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>>338529173
>so stale outside of boss fights
Do you have to fight random battles in this game or can you skip them all and only fight bosses?
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>>338529467
Only bosses give you levels so yeah pretty much if you want to avoid everything but bosses it's probably doable
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>>338529467
Some grinding is obligatory, at least for the levels but also for weapon customization which is pretty satisfying.
You SHOULDN'T skip them, but random encounters are easily dealt with by auto-battle anyways so I don't get the complaint
>>338529173
The game keeps adding mechanics though, I'd recommend you to pick the game up again
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>>338515345
>TFW that fight boss against Weiss
Best part of the game.
The first fight against the lolis was pretty alright too, its pretty much the point when the game asks you learn how to play or get fucked.
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>>338529878
>The first fight against the lolis was pretty alright too, its pretty much the point when the game asks you learn how to play or get fucked.
Weird, I had less trouble against them than this fuck. Especially the second fight before you get the first Rogress, I felt underleveled even though I skipped 0 battles
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>>338521342
is this game full translated?
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>>338529791
>Some grinding is obligatory
Even if you git gud? That sucks. I hate it when JRPGs are poorly balanced. They should be designed for a skilled player to win without levelling and have grinding as an option for people who aren't as good.
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>>338530135
I got lucky when fighting Mr. Edgy and Niko took care of him for most of the time. The twin lolis, Weiss (because i had no dark magic on me) and Gula were the hardest bosses of the game for me. Special mention to Clyde when you fight him on the desert ruins. I forgot to spread my party and he oneshotted my team with his AOE wind slice attack.
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>>338530491
I played that stuff from start to finish without grinding random encounters once. Every single boss is doable without grinding, just be sure to stock on healing items.
Grinding is only needed if you want all those weapon arts/whatever they are called, and the money to upgrade both weapons/armors AND magic.
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>>338530491
Well I'm sure that if you're really skilled you can manage the game just fine by not grinding and not skipping any encounters. I wouldn't know, I grind a lot for my weapons because its fun customizing them (weapons have their own EXP-bars).

Grinding is very comfortable anyways, auto-battle can handle most random encounters just fine
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>>338530753
>Gula
I feel your pain, was there seriously no save-point before that? I would have liked to customize my weapons accordingly but my savestate was at the start of the fight so I couldn't without re-doing the whole dungeon
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>>338531272
Oh anon, you dont really know my pain. I played it on a Wii. No save states at all...
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I played arc rise underleveled most of the time, the only notable fight I had problems on for being underleveled was the blonde nigga on the beach. Fuck that was hard. Pretty sure I played the undub, combat was fun.

Shadow hearts had a unique battle combat I guess, I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>338530491
The only grinding you should do in Arc Rise Fantasia is for the weapon unlocks since the heart of combat is weapon customization. And in every major area there is a common mob that is easy and gives good WP.

Playing batman preptime with weapons got annoying but you could setup to deal with anything.
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XEnoblade X has my favorite combat system
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Main reason I'm interested is that mitsuda and the eureka seven artist were part of it
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Eternal Sonata. Had pretty simple combat but it worked well imo.
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>>338534000
whats it like?
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>>338533696
>>338530965
>>338531073
Maybe I'm weird, but whenever I play JRPGs I avoid all battles that aren't mandatory. Boss battles are usually fun, but any fight where the developers don't specifically try to balance is always boring and makes future fights less fun.
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ar nosurge was awesome
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>>338534867
brutal. Starts out trunbased and easy, but as you get better the team level rises, which starts making the battle system tougher.

Turnbased infinte time turns into having a timer that gets shorter as the team level rises. Enemies get nasty and need you to flank or backstab them.

Viola (archer girl) does more damage the FURTHER away you are from mobs AND you need to aim(fps aiming I believe it was) AND you have the turn timer going.

Once you get used to it the battle system becomes fast pased and fun but will fuck you up if you aren't paying attention.
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>>338534867
>>338534000
eternal sonata plays like most games with near/far combat ie: star ocean. once you get close to a monster your abilities change. There's also a twist the maps in battles also have a sunshine/shaded area which can change abilities too. at least I'm pretty sure the near/far range is a thing, it's been a minute.

>>338535154
It's okay I played it underleveled too. Usually i'll fight most battles until I get tired of just one shotting things, then it gets tiresome so I'll just run away.
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Best girl
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>>338535154
I tend to do the same just cause it gets boring. Older jrpgs are pretty abd at the needed grinding, newer stuff is much more forgiving.

Granted newer stuff lets you curstomize enough to make your characters broken even without level grinding.
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Bravely Default & Second
They seem like very normal systems at first, but when you get more jobs you can combine their skills for all sorts of disgusting setups.
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Dark Souls 1 2 3
Bloodborne
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>>338535493
haven;t touched my copy yet since I want to go through the slow english translation of Ciel. But man watching the vids for ciel make it so damn boring.
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>>338530109
SMT has the best turn based JRPG combat.
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>>338514591
I remember this being a good game that I finished but I don't remember shit about its story. Absolutely terrible dub.
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Pic related for me, I played this first and went back to try the older Grandia games but I dunno this one just stuck with me much more than the others. It's only issue was how easy it was
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>>338535721
>L'arc goes into cryo sleep to fix shit
>Ryfia follows so she'll be with him when he wakes up
>Cecille can't for 5 or so years
>She jumps back into cryo once she can so she'll be wake up with the other two at their same physical age

I really did like how they handled the ending. Would of been amazing to have a sequal to see all the changes in the world.
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>>338529445
Fighting that bastard without Earth Pendants equipped was suicide since he can petrify your party members and the game can end if all 3 of your members turn to stone.
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>>338517146
>>338518185
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7E039050D83FF1AE0F9C897436834436051B9508
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Mana Khemia
Grandia 2
Sen no Kiseki II
Digital Devil Saga
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>>338537127
>Sen no Kiseki II
Does II have something that I doesn't?
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Dark Souls get praised because it doesn't tell you what to do but this game doesn't

Ok this game has a shitton of flaw but for some reason i have a really good time playing it, probably one of the best

Also it has kicking OST
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>>338535537
>but as you get better the team level rises, which starts making the battle system tougher.
no thanks, not after I've tried playing Last Remnant
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>>338537482
Nothing major. The only addition is the Overrise system which is mostly a panic button (50% healing for two characters and 3 free turns). Also some nice new skills, your party is fully customizable for the most part of the game and there are some fun optional battles. The game is even easier to break than the first one though.
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>>338536995
MEGA-link >>338527203
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>>338538330
It's no where near as bad as Last Remnant, an as I said it works you into it.
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>>338537678
Dork souls is an action RPG and honestly probably much easier to understand mechanically than Remnant, particularly how enemies scale. Dark Souls get easier as you play, Last Remnant does not. In fact you can make it so much worse for yourself just playing normally like you would most other RPGs
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>>338521669
Trails in the Sky does the story and character really well while Cold Steel fixes and improves upon just about everything pertaining to the battle system at the cost of the story and decent characters.
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Okay but what JRPGs are actual perfection and excel in every element they present? I've yet to find a JRPG that has satisfied me in gameplay, story, characters, and world building.
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>>338540414
Chrono Trigger?
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>>338514591
Can't beat the witches in tournament, help.
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>>338540414
I might get a lot of >, but Persona 4 was like that for me. It rekindled my my love for vidya after I had played a lot of sub-par games on PS2.
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>>338540486
I never really liked squenix's ATB system, it makes their gameplay tedious.
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>>338514591
I never did finish that game but I did enjoy it. It had some pretty good music
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>>338540965
I miss casino mini games. I always took them for granite and now i haven't played anything with them since like 2011
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>>338529878

Alfonse beating Weiss was the fucking worst though. How the hell does some bitch boy like him beat this guy who was touted as being this god-like warrior? Pissed me off to end.

Worst still, they all pretend to be friends by the end of the game, even after all the killing he did.
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>>338540965
>>338541243
Actually, why did they even start removing casino mini games from JRPGs?
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>>338540414
This is subjective. There will never be one single game that everyone thinks is pefect. western stuff included.
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>>338541473
When they realized that very few people wanted to waste 10 hours on RNG simulator to buy crappy items.

Or when they realized people found out how to break the casino games and got too much money too easy.
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DINNER DINNER DINNER DINNER DINNER DINNER
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>>338541473
Well I believe most PAL terrority outlaw virtual gambling, and Japan itself doesn't like gambling, doing its very best to pretend pachinko isn't a serious thing there so maybe it's part cultural and part concerns about localizations.
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>>338515345

The dub was bad, but there were some gems. Ignacy was done well, in my opinion.

>Consider yourself privileged
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>>338515345
I am getting the undub, I hope it's good anon.
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>That third fight with Dynos

I have never been so mad, playing a JRPG. How the fuck are the mooks more dangerous than the boss itself? These assholes take away more than a third of your hp with each hit.
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>>338542620

It's a great game. The positioning is actually relevant and key to victory, unlike a lot of jrpgs. The first few hours of the game are kind of easy, and enemies are a little weak. But afterwards it gets really difficult, and bosses require a lot of strategy.
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>>338530326

No, it's still half done. Better to just learn Japanese, you'll be able to translate it faster than waiting for that guy to get around to it someday.
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>>338514591
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>>338528597
CAN'T HIDE FROM MY SNIPING!
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>>338527378
Also nicoblog.org has it as well. PRetty decent site for other undubs and translated titles.

http://nicoblog.org/wii-iso/arc-rise-fantasia-undubbed-edition-usa/
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>>338543134
>get to Alice's boss fight
>have to restart CONSTANTLY because it's actually unbeatable unless she starts the fight with Doll Triangle
game sucks
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>>338531073

This. You have to pretty much be a wizard at RPGs to do this without grinding. I'm sure it is technically doable, but every playthrough, I've found myself doing at least a little grinding.

Might also be because I don't fight literally every enemy though. Occasionally I'll skip a fight. Or maybe I'm just not that good. I don't know
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>>338543446
you can't handle the game because you aren't a Genius
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>>338529445

Gula, fuck that guy. Try playing this on the Wii. What I did was grind outside of the dungeon, and just skipped battles on my way to this guy.

I remember being in that dungeon for what.... a half an hour or so? Getting killed and having to do all that over again was pretty annoying. I remember thinking it was a story battle as well.
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>>338528938
kill em dead
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>>338543669
that's not funny

i actually liked the game up to that point you know
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>>338528843

Gecko OS, get it.
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>>338514591
Does this have dual audio or do I need to get the jap version to play without cringe?
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>>338543979
then try harder dude, I beat that boss even back then when there was no translation. The game really opens up in the second third.
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>>338527959

It never stops being challenging, that's the best part.
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>>338528843
Emulation, USB Loader, etc
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>>338544071
Undub has been posted in this thread.
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>>338544090
then it shouldn't have been so bullshit in the beginning

fuck it
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>>338529180

I'm not a fan of them either, and I can tell you this game is not like them. The battle system isn't even close to being similar.
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>>338544293

This one is still on the backlog. I bought it like... two years ago.
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>>338536752

The game didn't sell all that well I assume. That and getting anyone to publish ARF was a chore in and of itself. Damn good game though
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>>338542651
Is that the place right before the last area? Pretty sure they had some annoying monsters that did status effects.
>>338543134
loved this and DoD.
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Sure the combat doesn't evolve much past the first chapter and once you master the combat it pretty much trivialize the whole game but I never get tired looking how cool are the characters moving around stylishly while doing hero action.
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>>338527738

I remember when /v/ complained about underboob being removed. It was kind of annoying, but nothing compared to the overreactions that happen now.

Imagination current /v/'s devastation
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>>338544172
Thank you. I was just asking because if it had dual audio I would actually consider buying the game.
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>>338537678
This is one of the best jrpgs I've ever played. While it is pretty obtuse, once you get it and build the the team you want. It feels like your army is one well-oiled machine.
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>>338544837

Yeah, the place that was created by Real. And yes, it was full of monsters that inflicted some really annoying status effects on you. I remember dying in plenty of random encounters.
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>>338544847
Not to mention game did have a good story and great Engish VA as well.
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>>338544837
>>338545179

It's called the Verct Skywalk
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>>338527203
This isn't working for me for some reason, doesn't even take me to mega. Just acts like a regular google search
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Who felt free when they listened to this the first time? Finally getting your wings was the tits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoqMNYoZqCs
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>>338545096
Fucking this

Having an unstoppable army after days of worm grinding is the best feeling ever

Also it has a shitton of great optional bosses (The Fallen, White Conqueror, Enlightened Seven)
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>>338521342
My nigga.
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>enemy has Counter Defense
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>>338545193
And it's probably the only jrpg where the main characters are all likable.
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TLR. First run can be a shitshow, but after you get the hang of how BR works and your skills it's fucking fun. And it can still kick your ass.
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Endless Frontier EXCEED
Radiant Historia
Tales of Symphonia
Skies of Arcadia (Ship combat really makes it interesting)

>>338514591
I forgot I had that game. The dub was terrible, and I couldn't really get into the gameplay.
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>>338546289
/v/ used to have some really crazy threads about this game
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>>338546289
wut geam
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>>338546289
Having the last boss still be a threat and a challenge after grinding and beating the hard optional bosses, was a real nice surprise
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>>338546718
Last Remnant.
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>>338514591
>yfw during the beach battle
>dat music but holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bhoXyFwV4Q
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>>338547284
>tfw I got lucky with criticals during my party combo and one-shotted Alf

Man, that fight felt so good. This game had a lot of great moments. It's a shame more people didn't play it.
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>>338514591
One of my favorite games of all time.
RIP Imageepoch, I will always remember you fondly.

And I will always remember this huge fuck you moment in ARF.
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>>338547868
Have you finished your FC evo you cunt.
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>>338548107
Yeah a while ago. I'm on SC Evo now.
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>>338539308
you wish
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>>338514591
Isn't that turn based?
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>>338542042
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>>338514591
Dragon's Dogma
</eot>
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>>338546940
Thank you anon.
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>>338545431
MEGA fucks links up from time to time, I don't know how to counteract that
it seems to have worked for others for some reason, I can't really help you with that
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>>338546289
I loved the gameplay of that game but after getting stuck on my first run after 10 hours was too much for me.
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Both Bravely games
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>>338545431
>>338550345
mega.co.nz/#F!Fg1jDahZ!DN-wgJlisu8A7hl7tBiNOg
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>>338550345
Don't worry about that, I'll figure something out myself.
Thanks anyway!

Also, pic related for thread.
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>>338550716
Not the other guy but thanks, this one works for me.

Does pic related count? It gets more rpg-like with later entries.
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>>338544753
yeah well, Wii had a ton of shovelware and I don't think the original arc rise on DS did so well.

A hidden gem to be sure.
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All MH games.
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>>338544867
/v/ just finds any petty thing to complain about. And it was only her main outfit that got the minor censor. All her other stuff that was revealing stayed that way.

/v/ is the epitome of beauty is only skin deep.
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If someone wants Baten Kaitos - eternal wings and the lost ocean (undubbed), im uploading it to mega.

if thread is still alive
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>>338552629
Noice, thanks

Got Origins too? Should I start with that or just go straight to eternal wings?
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>>338552629
DO IT!
God damn it you just pushed my hype thrusters to max! I want to buy the original game but it's so god damn expensive.
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>>338547868
Ahh that moment, that hurt like a bitch. Serge and Leslie both got some redemption. Though mercs so it made sence and they realized their actions caused some fuck ups.

Adele went down the hole never to return. Prince took untill the very end to realize how much he lost even after losing it.
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>>338553185
Yes, Adele ended tragedly. I thought I wouldn't feel bad but I definitely did. Literally lost her damn mind.

Also the fight at the end of this dungeon was fucking hard as balls and there was NO SAVE POINT.
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>>338552930
Eternal Wings then play Origins.

>>338552930
>>338553117
heres the link for Baten Kaitos Origins (undubbed)~

https://mega.nz/#F!a1FTUTTK!LSz5-ZOIfVLbv4RNSC_OJA

It might take 40 mins to 1 hour to upload Lost Ocean
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>>338524171
I got Raidou 2 specifically because the combat was .hack//G.U. all over again.
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>>338553382
Excellent anon, thanks a lot
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>>338549439
laugh all u want. the only reason ppl are hating on it is the all male cast means they arent gonna be able to jerk off while playing. Will be one of the best FF in the series easily.
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>>338553382
Right now, you are a saint to me.
I will wait for Lost Ocean as well if you are willing to upload it.
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>>338514591
>Muted characters can't speak along the fact that they can't cast spells

TECHNOLOGY

also the bossfights are hard as balls, I love it
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>>338546940
>>338546289
>>338537678
>>338545096
>>338545824

My fucking niggas

Now have to reinstall this shit again
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>>338547868

L'Arc was a good dude, and it seems like everyone was just out to piss him off.
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>>338537678

I played it on X360 and the game was borderline unplayable. Sub 30fps all the time and FUCKING LONG LOADING TIMES WHAT THE FUCK. It poisoned my enjoyment of this game forever.

The soundtrack was pretty damn cool though. Same dude that did Romancing Saga Minstrel Song's ost IIRC (which is a 11/10 ost)
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>>338514591
The best thing about the combat in Arc Rise Fantasia is that, even when you're about 60% into the game it STILL chucks new battle mechanics at you, then you get one area to to learn it in random battles before the game assumes you know it or it rapes you to death.
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>>338554650
Don't ever be a good dude. Everyone will be just out to piss you off.
People love to hate good people, it's stupid but true.
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>>338552606

Yeah, some of the shit they bitch about here, fucking pointless.
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>>338554650
Yeah it was great.
Dude was like the one straight man in a sea of goofballs.
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>>338554872

No good deed goes unpunished.
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>>338554978
Why are people such fucking pricks?
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>>338553365
I felt sorry for Alf. Been in love with Adele for years. Loyaly supports her and sticks with her on the ride through crazy town only to watch her just lose everything.
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>>338535493
Im trying to make it through ar Nosurge but it feels like i just missed out on too much without playing ciel.
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>>338555208
They remind me of what Dominic and Anemone would be like if they got a bad end
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>>338554976

Indeed. I Liked the story but at the same time I was mad the whole time. Some of the mental gymnastics these guys performed to justify their actions, fuck.
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>>338555730
Haha I never took it in a bad way, it was just funny. The last dungeon's skits and scenes had me dying.
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>>338535961
Go play Ciel yourself if it's so damn boring watching the videos then.
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this was a top tier boss fight
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>>338553973
>Result screen
>character does his victory pose and says nothing because he's muted
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>>338520568
Aww...fuck. I forgot that I never finished that.
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Persona 2, and 4
SMT: Strange Journey/ Nocturne/ 4
Fire Emblem
Disgaea
Etrian Odyssey
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>>338555904

I like how Cecille talks in third person, it's kind of cute.

"Cecille has a message for Elena at the school, but can't find her way".
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>>338556170
Usually I'm not a fan of that, but Cecille only does it cause she thought of herself as a hero and was almost narrating herself, so I didn't mind. Plus she was a great character.

>>338556068
Same when their turn comes up and they speak but nothing comes out. Awesome stuff.
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>>338556170
I love that whole superhero thing she has going on

all while hitting like a truck
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>>338514591
can't name a single one.
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Hnnnnng this game
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>>338556312

Huh, I thought she was doing it because she was a little kid.

>>338556392

Yeah she hits like a fucking Mack.
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Goddamn why is this guy giving me so much trouble

Even with flame res+ buffs and decent earth res+ on everyone he wrecks my team and I can barely even scratch him
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>>338522417
Best part of using those items was to remove weapons from Yuri, make sure his attack stats are as low as you can make them, then use the item that allows you to just keep attacking...

...then sit back and relax during the final boss fight as you hit each of those ring slots and watch him do 1 point of damage per attack at best, punching fast enough to do about 10 attacks per second, until he depletes the boss of all his HP.

Good times...good times...

>>338521879
Nah, I'll choose both, and you can beg and cry as you fall asleep every night night that even one of your games had battle systems as great as many JRPG's have.
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>>338556630
That is a hard ass fight.
He does a suicide attack when you destroy him so becareful

>>338556574
That could be it too.
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>>338556630

Oh, this asshole. If I recall, parts of his body break off, rendering certain attacks useless at certain phases.
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>>338556630

What party members are you using, by the way?
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>>338556849
I haven't seen this trip in a minute. So you're still around, eh
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>>338556849

yeah, and you cannot fucking block it, that's the worst part. It's a phase that just happens automatically after the fight is done. You need to make sure you have enough health
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>>338556849
>>338556630
>This fucking boss
>Get him down to no HP
>Does a suicide attack
>Kills one of my party members

Fuck that fight.
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>>338555975
no habla moonspeak. Besides it's a giant VN that's ridicliously slow.
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>>338557539
ARF was one of those rare cases where I'll just be glad I won the fucking fight, rather than feel bad that I had one or two chars dead at the end.

>>338557421
Yeah which is tough when you've spent all your healing on just surviving that far.
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>>338556630
>fully prepared for this fight before hand
>still get royally fucked

And that's the casual filter than shows you why turnbased can still fuck you in the ass. Probably was overtuned but I can't think anything you get later that would make him eaiser other than another 30 levels.
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>>338557785

Don't we have above and beyond by the time we get to this point? I think that can be used if he's have some trouble surviving. I think. It's been a while.

Also yeah, I have no complaints about characters being dead after a fight in Arc Rise Fantasia. No way am I restarting, only to lose over and over again.
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>The thread is still up.
>All this ARF talking.

Sometimes, you guys are alright.
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>>338557973
Almost every fight in this game is a casual filter
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>>338557973

On top of Batman prep-time, you also need to be able to adapt. For the most part, fights are never over before they start, like in some RPGs.
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>>338558092

I know, I was about to go play video games and then I see this thread. I'm going to take the opportunity to talk and bump, because I know it will probably be another 7 or 8 months before I see another ARF thread.

These loli sisters man, I can't tell you how many tries it took for me to beat them. Funny though, the second encounter was a lot easier than the first, and they use their special Idol jpop attack regularly.
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>no one actually posting a game with actual good combat instead of >muh classic turn based
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>>338558092
Welcome to night time /v/! How can I help you, sir?
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>>338553754
>>338553925
oh shit its done uploading.

Heres the link for anyone that wants Baten Kaitos - Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean (undubbed)

https://mega.nz/#F!XkNG1AxD!zSkvnfdKlzzO4rgoeojWlw
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>>338558063
Yeah it's been a while so I'm not sure either. That final attack is more than a huge lolatleastyoutried than totally unavoidable though.

>>338558124
Especially they goddamn optional bosses. Lawd
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>>338558124
Well the boss fights. I don't remember the random being too bad unless you tried to auto battle everything.
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>>338558662
Anon delivers!
Pic related is for you, bro!
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>>338558725
I hated the optional fights because you couldn't tell whether or not they were a regular mob sometimes
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>>338556849
Good to know about that shit beforehand.
And good to know I'm not the only one having trouble with that guy. So what helps? More grinding?
>>338557245
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>>338558878

A few of them were just recolors, which I thought kind of sucked
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>>338558518
The combat is good, but it goes to shit levels of easy once you unlock the girl that makes blocking easy. I perfected the final boss thanks to that passive effect.
>>338558453
The only way for me to beat their first fight was using Niko, as i believe you can get 7ap as long as you have him on the party, instead of just 6.
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>>338558725
Years before PvZ was even thought up, sunflowers could kick your ass.
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>>338558984
Grinding doesn't help much at all in ARF. You get extremely low XP really fast, so eventually it makes it borderline impossible to overlevel in any given situation. Find out whats making the fight so hard, try to customize your weapons better, and pray.
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>>338558092
OP here, didn't expect this thread to pick up, I wasn't aware that this game was actually kinda popular here
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>>338558984

If you can, use above and beyond. It's life force + life force. Doubles your HP and fully heals you. Makes you able to withstand this guy's attacks more. After that, destroy the crystals.

He uses fire magic, right? I recall Chimera using powerful fire magic that makes your character confuses.
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>>338558518
>Ar tonelico
>good combat
It doesn't matter that it uses a unique system if it's braindead easy.
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>>338559414

People here like it, but often ignore the threads for some reason. I can't ever get a discussion going.
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>>338559414
It's not, this is the biggest discussion of it I've seen on 4chan. You got lucky tonight.
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