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Is he going to be the only real counter to Bastion?
You can just cornerpeek with any long range hero and waste him
>>338493765
And widowmaker
>there are people on /v/ right now who still think bastion is the hardest thing to counter.
Within two weeks people will realize and start complaining about the real op characters like Tracer and Widowmaker.
McCree
Roadhog
Widowmaker
Tracer
>>338493765
McCree
Roadhog
Widowmaker
Tracer
Genji
Mei
Reinhardt
You can counter Bastion with literally anyone if you're not a huge faggot.
>>338493765
Yeah, you're right. Genji is the only character in the whole roster who can counter Bastion.
The best counter to Bastion is having a brain
i will buy this game when they add a 3 second delay before you can switch heroes right after you spawn. quick switching to winston or dva when your last point is getting capped just to meat shield off a point is retarded
>>338493765
>Junkrat
>lob grenades at stationary target
>????
D.Va counters bastion easy as well, anon.
>>338493765
>See a stationary turret
>If I stand in front of him I may die
>Let's try and see if I can't kill him first
>Nope :(
Man, this game is so fucking hard. No way it'll sell well if they can't balance things in my favor.
>>338493765
Why is master yi wearing the crisis suit?
>>338493765
Literally Raiden
widow shouldnt even exist in a team based arena shooter
>>338493896
>in less than 48 hours we'll have "Bastion is OP" threads again
how do i counter bastion counters as bastion? Do i reposition myself every few kills?
how is genji a bastion counter?
>>338494528
You press E.
>>338493765
He's easy to counter now that he doesn't have a shield. You can easily kill him with most medium to long range heroes.
>>338493896
This, Bastion is just a casual filter. Tracer on the other hand is only killable when the one playing Tracer fucks up hard.
>>338494417
McCree shouldn't either.
(By your logic)
>>338494570
and bastion waits for your E to end then shoots you and kills you in less than a second, bastion can see when your reflect is activated
>>338494501
Normally you can't counter what counters you, anon.
That's why it's a team game.
>>338493896
Tracer isn't OP because there are many weapons that can 1 shot her. Plus her dps is much lower than most other attack characters.
She is mainly an annoyance character. This doesn't make her OP.
Widowmaker is OP as a sniper however. If anything, Hanzo should get some kind of close range option due to having the more difficult to use long range weapon. Widowmaker should have to deal with her sniper, or make the AR piss weak like the TF2 sniper's smg.
>mowing down retards on the enemy team as Bastion
>see Genji
>literally tap M1 to bait out his deflect
>mow that nigger down a few seconds later
>>338494501
Get your hand m1 while he is trying to deflect your bullets than shoot him
>>338494585
WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS WHERE'S THE SHERIFF
Pharah with her rockets
Junkrat with his grenades
Roadhog with his grapple (only on occasion)
Tracer with her ult
Widowmaker
McCree with High noon or just a few good shots
>>338494585
>shoot tracer enough to deal 50+ damage
>she'll rewind
>just remember where she was 3 seconds ago
>shoot there
>ded
Wow so hard.
>>338494679
>implying the majority of Bastion players are smart enough to do that
>>338494758
watch me swooce right in
>>338494501
Dont shoot to gengi when he reflects. Yeah i know its hard to focus but try it.
>>338494107
>>338494173
>>338494585
>>338494728
Just post more Overwatch memes
>>338493765
Roadhog is a bastion counter if Bastion doesn't have a Reinhart holding his hand.
>>338494708
Hanzo DOES have a close range option. Scattershot at close range aimed at the feet will oneshot any attack hero.
>use orb of discord
>literally anyone can 2-3 shot bastion now
zenyatta is fun
>>338494790
>shoot tracer enough to deal 50+ damage
>she'll rewind
>just remember where she was 3 seconds ago
>shoot there
>she blinks away to get more health
woah
>>338494790
if you shoot tracer enough to do 50 damage then you shot her enough to do 150 damage. she cant dies the moment bastion looks at her that's why she has to use her bomb. If she cant kill him before bastion turns around she dies.
>>338493765
No, shitposting is.
Did somebody order Overwatch memes?
The only problem with bastion is the fact that he gets potg for doing nothing.
>>338494980
If you deal 150 damage to Tracer she can't rewind, period.
>>338494929
Blinks don't restore after a rewind. She'll probably have used them up in the fight as you deal the 50+ damage.
>>338495039
TF2 salt is best meme
>>338494894
>get orb of discord'd
>get slaughtered by a series of headshots the second I move slightly out of cover
A good Zenyetta is fucking scary depending on the map/team comp.
>>338495039
Posting what I have.
>>338495147
>not building an Ice Wall to cuck McCree out of his ult
>>338493765
Does Blizzard have ANY and I repeat ANY fucking creativity left in them? Jesus fucking Christ if I was american I would be suing their asses.
>>338495125
I have TF2 meme too.
>>338495125
I think there's less salt than people like to think.
Also, I, and other TF2 fans should be glad there's another game in the genre we like to play. I certainly am.
I'm also glad it will likely force Valve to get off their ass and develop TF3.
>>338494894
I preferred him in the first beta. Now he gets picked off too easily and his orbs are worse.
>>338495205
You could. Or you could just ice yourself and fuck over your teammates.
>>338495250
>>338495330
Some McCree for you memers
>>338495346
Do you think Reaper is tongue in cheek? Even just a little?
>>338494362
try Literally Grey Fox instead because that's what Raiden is.
My biggest problem with Bastion is surely Pharah should counter him? Just move into vision and shoot rockets at him from range, moving back behind cover to reload or between shots.
Yet, he seems to deal more damage than you from long range with absurdly high accuracy.
>>338493765
nah mate. that'd be the viraler. nobody beats the viraler.
>>338495205
>Mei
>helping her team
HAAH WAW
>>338493765
>>338494847
>>338495124
>She'll probably have used them up in the fight as you deal the 50+ damage
Thats why I said tracer is only killable when the one playing her fucks up, you shouldn't just spam your blinks while fighting someone. If you rewind and then have 0 blinks, then yeah you'll probably die, but you should save one for escapes like that.
But Blink has a pretty short cooldown anyway so like I said, you arent going to die as Tracer unless you really fuck up.
>>338495124
No most tracers always have one
>>338495557
Darn. Was about to post that but you cucked me.
>>338495219
Does Battleborn shitposters have ANY and I repeat ANY fucking creativity left in them? Jesus fucking Christ if I was american I would be suing their asses.
There's only one OP in this game, and it's Zenyatta. You litteraly cant counter his Discord Orb, and he doesnt even have Cooldown on it. Discord Orb is making every Tank a little faggot, and everything else like wet toilet paper. Having one Zen in team already makes him one step closer to win.
>>338493765
The best counter to Bastion is playing the game semi-competently.
>Overwatch is now playable]
Fuck you, Blizz client
>>338495640
Better version
>>338494427
Its a magical time anon
Related to the topic.
>>338495617
The text should be mirrored
>>338495618
You also aren't going to get any kills unless the enemy fucks up (or it's mercy).
Tracer is just an annoyance enemy against anyone but shitters.
It changes a bit when you get to pro level, but she has hard counters like Winston that can lock her down.
>>338495731
>You litteraly cant counter his Discord Orb
Step out of his line of sight for three(3) seconds and it falls off
How do you counter a team of all Tjorbjorns on that Russian level?
>>338494157
nobody cares lol
>>338495689
Drone in a nutshell. I don't think battleborn was even mentioned in this thread
>>338495783
>killing people with the charge
>>338495039
>>338495841
Then it means someone else have Discord Orb, and you are out of combat, what means weaker team. Gi Gi <3
>>338495786
Nope
>>338494847
>>338495445
No character like Reaper gets designed by adults without being a little bit tongue in cheek.
>>338493765
junkrat can lob grenades over obstacles at him, killing him or at least forcing him to get out of turret form to move away
phara can shoot rockets accurately from a distance as well
>>338493765
Genji may be the easiest to counter bastion with but there are a ridiculous amount of ways to get rid of bastions.
>>338495445
Dunno, Blizzard's humor tends to be pretty shit but they did make Soildier 76 so.
>>338494847
>>338495731
>be anyone
>look in the general direction of zenyatta
>left click
There,it is solved.
>>338496096
name some besides
>>338496082
and roadhog's hook forcing him out of his turret
>>338493870
>Implying cornerpeek even works in this game.
I'm not sure how many memes I have left.
So are they ever going to nerf hanzo's e? If you shoot it at someone's feet, it will always one shot them, even if they're roadhog or something.
>>338495807
Her damage is pretty good if she gets close, and she obviously has little problem escaping. Maybe she isn't a hero meant to get solo kills but she still hurts, and is very hard to kill, not to mention how quick her ulti builds up. There's a reason why most pro teams use two Tracers.
also
>hard counters like Winston that can lock her down
Maybe to scare her away for a couple seconds, but he doesn't do much damage and Tracer can easily harass him outside of his range.
>>338493765
Winston isn't a hard counter like Genji or Widow but he can fuck with Bastion. But no one plays Winston so people don't know that.
>>338496193
Widow and Hanzo can snipe him out
Depending on the angle they're attacking from, they can even hit the weak point on his back even if they're not behind him
>>338496106
Soon....soon....soon...
>>338493870
I fuck up Bastion on the reg with Junkrat ricochet Nade spam
>>338496165
You are really clever anon...
>>338494107
>Flank Bastion
>Start shooting him.
>Bastion immediately flips 180 degrees and kills me in half a second.
>Try to pop-up attack with Pharah.
>Bastion kills me before I drop back down, even though I'm not gliding.
>>338496301
They already nerfed it, it used to be able to headshot
I'm over my Bastion hate but I hope they tweaked POTG so we won't see him every match again. Also once I learned how to not get killed by Bastion I began hating Widowmakers and McCrees for the most part. A good position for the w.maker makes killing stuff safely stupidly easy, coupled with her xray vision it can be ridiculous. McCree has the stun bomb to rmb bullshit.
>>338496298
Meme sterben nie.
>>338496298
If we're out of memes, maybe this thread could go in another direction.....
>>338496298
I shouldn't have laughed at this.
>>338496153
>filename
Hehe that's pretty good Anon
>>338493896
>Tracer
>Op
Nah dude. She can't do much without her bomb. She's an annoyance at best until.
>>338496440
>>338496302
>If she gets close
If she gets close enough for good damage, she's in the range of dying instantly to shotguns, rockets, or in under a second to someone like S76.
>>338496439
We'll get to that eventually. More memes incoming.
>>338496439
Need more of the cast in casual clothes.
>>338496424
>mei
>trump
Pic very related
>>338496517
>Steven Universe
>>338496407
Yeah didn't Bastion have smaller fields of fire in the earlier betas? I feel like they should go back to that.
>>338494790
>Remember where she was 3 seconds ago
Think about how retarded you are. Most of the time people just come out towards you from corners. Multiple people in the heat of the moment you aren't going to guess right where the Tracer was 3 seconds ago and she will regain health and force you to move well another teammate is most likely helping her by then.
Its not a counter to rewind because in a real situation it hardly works.
Time for some play of the games
>>338496517
autism
>>338494501
Bait the Deflect, then punish. If you get killed, or they set up multiple counters to you, switch characters.
>>338496645
Could only rotate 180 degrees but he also had a shield at that time. His weak spot was 3x damage instead of the current 2x.
>>338494894
>play zenyatta
>die to single widowmaker bodyshot
not fun
>>338496645
He also had a Reinhardt shield
>>338496645
Yea, he had a cone
Problem was that his shield made him pretty OP from the front and had less counters (though Tracer used to be his hard counter).
>>338496629
Forget the ass, that face makes me fucking diamonds
I couldn't be happier that VR and by extension, VR porn is starting to be developed at the exact time that Overwatch, and by extension, Overwatch SFM models are being released
Last one, later guys.
>>338496221
is it physically possible for someone to draw the scout without a le epic silly face xd
>>338496705
>>338496439
>>338496629
YOU FUCKING BLUEBERRY
>>338494679
Then you use your E as a gap closer or don't use it like a fucking retard.
>>338496537
maybe if you run right at them in a straight line, but they're not going to turn around and shoot you in time if you flank them like you're supposed to. Plus, her range is still pretty decent, its not garbage like pic related or something
>>338495552
This. Bastion needs more falloff. Right now he qualifies as a sniper.
That or they need to make Pharah a straight up Unreal eightball ripoff and let you load multiple rockets at once.
>>338493765
do people actually like the blue futa slut?
>>338493765
Roadhog sneaky hook worked fine for me.
>>338496705
please tell me theres a
>PLAY OF THE GAME
>HANZO / WIDOWMAKER
>SIX MISSES AND THREE BODYSHOTS
>>338496741
>>338496749
>>338496757
Yeah I know he had the shield so I guess giving him wider fields of fire is to "make up" for him not having the shield any more, but I still think that he shouldn't be able to look straight up.
>>338496862
Saved, thanks.
Pharah and Hanzo counters him hard though.
>>338496850
Reaper's range is supposed to be garbage because he does absolutely insane damage if all of his spread hits you.
>>338496863
He IS a sniper. That is his role.
Keep in mind that if you were to nerf Bastion, you would have to give him something in exchange
>mfw playing bastion and mowing down genji players that think they are a counter
how many times do you need to run in and die immediately after E wears off to realize it's not going to work
So what areharacters' opinions about omnics? all the evil characters and Sara re "gas the robokikes"
As far as I acan tell
>>338497121
That's not how nerfs work, anon. And giving him some kind of damage fall off or something like that to reduce his effectiveness after like 100 feet wouldn't be unreasonable.
>>338495783
"EARTHQUAKE KILLS THOUSANDS, DESTROYS SEVERAL LANDMARKS"
Lol fucking makes me laugh every time
>>338493765
bastion became a lot easier to counter when they took away his shield
>>338495783
>When you learn you can use Reinhardt's ult in the air
So, you counter Bastion by basically trying to surprise him by attacking him from multiple angles. What if there's another Bastion looking at those angles though>
>>338497230
All I know is the dwarf hates them.
>>338495783
>TFW you realize Reinhardt is a Dividing Driver away from being Gaogaigar.
Lion themed skin, giant hammer, barrier, charges into enemies to kill them...
They really need a Black and Red version of the Lionhardt skin.
>>338496234
>Implying cornerpeeking isn't insane in a 20 tick game
>>338493765
No, awareness is.
>>338497274
So how would you compensate him for that?
>>338496193
That's already 4, and not even all of them. Why would you need more in a game based around switching characters and playing in a team?
>>338494847
>>338497230
Pink Hair Mc Tumblr hates them
Reaper hates them
Widowmaker. Hates them
Soldier 76 might hate ten due to his past
RoadHog likes killing
junkrat likes blowing things up
>>338497152
genjis who run directly at bastions do it wrong. throw shurikens from a safe distance and bait out their shooting. And if the bastion bait out the counter (ie immediately stop firing after a couple of shots) the genji retreats
but I know that a lot of genjis have heard that counter is automatically a counter to them and think it will kill the bastion every time instead of treating it like a mind game tool
Last meme.
Hope you enjoyed the ride.
>>338497230
>evil
Pretty sure most of the characters who are anti-chromedome got fucked over by them.
Overwatch as an organization was founded because Omnics would just flood cities with Bastion units and wantonly slaughter the populace.
>>338493765
The best counter to Bastion is not being an idiot, but alternatively you can play Roadhook and hook the motherfucker out of turret mode, then blast his face off.
>>338497063
yeah but every other attack hero can do high damage at close range without being totally garbage beyond 10 feet
>>338497342
Dual Bastion can be a lot of fun if you like shitting on idiots, but I believe Genji can still counter them both and you could always (still) hook em as Roadhog or shadow float over them as Reaper to either kill them yourself or distract them so that your teammates can get in there.
>>338496783
>>338497446
D.va hates them
>>338497561
If two bastions shoot at a genji countering then he will reflect twice the damage back to whichever bastion he's aiming at right? should be an instakill
>>338497438
He doesn't have to be compensated, it's not like blizzard gave Zenyatta anything nice when they made his orbs line of sight or lowered his HP.
>>338493765
*unsheathes katana*
I will do what I must
Is the Hero animation out today?
>>338497683
>He doesn't have to be compensated
Sure he does
He's already weak at high levels of play
>>338497541
Not D.V.A. I think Roadhog's damage is pretty shit too beyond a point, even with his alternate fire.
>>338496783
>loud tire screech
>>338497590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXMAIL0p5w
>>338497504
>because Omnics would just flood cities with Bastion units and wantonly slaughter the populace.
Well, at least Bastion m1 is justified by the lore
>>338497810
in 1 hour
>>338497152
>My face when going against players like you I just spam throwing stars until you get pissed off enough to fire, then use E which finishes you off
>>338497834
>>338497541
Symmetra's damage is pretty shit too at far range unless you catch someone off guard and motionless. Winston doesn't even deal damage until you get close.
>>338497810
1pm est
>>338497834
A T T A C K H E R O
>>338494501
You don't. Just get used to that fact or you're going to be ripping your hair off as soon as it becomes common knowledge how to deal with him which wont take more than a couple of weeks. If you're getting countered, you switch, that's it.
>>338495595
Why does Genji have the best ass in Overwatch?
Bastion gets fucked by Reinhardt. You can aim your fire at him easy since he can't dodge it, then when he has to heal you can charge him down, or if he's above you you can just walk by.
>>338495509
>your face when there are people that don't even know Grey Fox
>>338496407
You move too slow when you're flying and there is literally zero cover because you're fucking flying nigga. Stay on the ground
>>338495445
reminds me of aatrox from league of legends
>>338497951
It's pretty simple, fire at genji until he E's, then stop firing then he does. It isn't that complex.
>that feel when teleporting behind widowmakers when they're scoped in
nothing personnel
>>338497446
McCree is indifferent
Hanzo is indifferent
Tech Support is indifferent
Foxy grandpa is indifferent
Tracer likes them
Zen likes them
Bastion likes birds
Genji likes Zen
>>338495783
Why is roadhog crying when he fucks over reinhardts?
>>338498148
>deadbabies69
I think that one is joking.
>>338498264
>Tech Support
You mean Symmetra?
Cause she wants them dead, she's one of the bad guys.
>>338498183
The time between those two has you take about 150 damage due to the rate of fire.
>>338497834
thats why I specified attack hero
>>338498183
If the enemy team is retarded enough to not use that distraction to murder you, that is.
>>338498238
Hey, they should give reaper a Malthael skin. Maybe give Soldier 76 a Tyrael on.
>>338498238
Best feeling
>>338498342
She's not evil just autistic.
>>338494107
only winning move is to not play
or beat that nigga to the punch
>>338495445
Tracer literally has a voice line where she makes fun of him saying "Death comes" in a stupid voice.
Of course its self-aware.
>>338498281
It's an odd matchup.
Reinhardt makes his job harder by making hooking Reinhardt's teammates more annoying. Roadhog however can just pull a Mcree and walk past the shield, dealing really high damage.
I don't think one roughly counters the other.
>>338497681
Genji would need to be shot from the front though. But I guess that happens in most situations, so not like it's an issue really. And you need to direct the shots as Genji obviously.
>>338498403
They usually are, at least from my experience in the open beta.
I don't really care though, as my defensefu is Junkrat.
>>338495783
How to win payload on attack: 5x Reinhardt, 1x Lucio
>>338496545
why is she australian and not british
>>338498512
theres also one where Winston jokes that not even kids would be afraid of Reaper
>>338497619
Well D.va was Pacific Rimming them up when they pulled her out of pro video games at age 16.
>>338495425
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>338498572
Of course. I wonder if there is any limit to the damage output of deflect at all. Like if you had an enemy team of five bastions in sentry mode and a genji deflected all of them, would his deflected damage output actually be 5 times of a bastion which is already insanely high? Has there been any testing to see if there is a cap
>>338497681
Yes. Also,
>be bastion, other teammate also bastion
>see lil ninja
>stop shooting because I'll kill myself
>other bastion lays on the trigger and killing me in the process
This game is fun
>>338495425
>that pull cord on Genji
If I pull it, will he say a voice line?
Is he secretly just a plush toy?
Reinhardt and Bastion is the best buddy combo for point defense.
>>338496091
thanks for meme friend
>>338498727
Well that's funny because Blizzard themselves had a tip during the early beta that said "just ignore Winston, he's a distraction"
>>338498759
These dudes need 100% more YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>338498663
then just make entire defending team pharah or junkrat
Genji isn't even the best answer to Bastion in the first place.
>>338498817
Thats a good situation to just stop playing bastion and switch to junkrat or something.
>every hero gets called OP
Genji is green
Hanzo is blue
RYU GA WAGA TEKI WO KURAU
>>338499010
Well besides Symettra, yeah.
>>338498817
I don't think people know about Deflect at all. Feels like I'm always hit when I see a Genji using it, but I always stop soon enough.
>>338498663
>>338495783
Reinhardt is just the best character in this game. Idiots can contribute to their team by holding RMB. Skilled players can fucking annihilate the enemy with charge and ult.
>Patch went out yesterday
>No news on what was in it
>Probably balancing fixes
Make your predictions for who got buffed and who got fucked with the Nerf Hammer.
>>338499165
I want to lob grenades above them so badly.
>>338499096
symettra is underrated
>>338498639
Yeah, that's how it always was at the beginning of play tests, 2 weeks of "Bastion op!" by complete retards, then people figure out how to actually play the game.
It'll be the same again when the game gets released.
>be pharah or widowmaker
>strafe around corner and pop a shot off within .1 second
>2 shot the bastion and he is forced to turn into a shitty recon with no health left
>3 shot the bastion if he stays in turret form
>>338499165
>No bastions to mow through those shields in a second.
>>338499185
>Buff
Hopefully Zenyatta with a little more hp or higher healing.
>Nerf
Probably Mei with all the complaining people do about her.
>>338499165
>5 junkrats against them
>>338499165>NERF THIS!
>>338496783
>>338499325
>Zen
Yeah, 150 is too damn little when a Widow can do 150 bodyshot.
>>338495731
>You litteraly cant counter his Discord Orb
You counter his discord by fucking killing him, which is really easy to do because he has almost no health and no mobility.
>>338499338
or 5 reapers
Junkrat and Reaper have insane DPS and are mobile enough to not instantly get pinned.
I'd throw in one pharah so rheinhardts have to coordinate whose shield will be facing skyward or level.
>>338499325
I would certainly hope Zenyatta at least got 200 HP, and Mei having a slightly increased time before she freezes someone might be a good thing.
>>338499360
>Implying
>>338499595
Just don't get into her field of view :^)
>>338499723
Does the discord orb still go away after he loses line of sight for a few seconds, or is that just the healing one?
