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>>338474412
Who cares about Denuvo right now.
A more interesting fact is that internet service providers are threatening to turn off your internet if you download certain movies/tv shows.
If that happens to games, ALL HOPE WILL BE LOST.
>people still look forward to AAA games
>>338474554
switch service proiders then
Or threaten to switch, those limp dick faggots never bothered me again after I sent a letter in response to them
aw man, now I have to get a fucking job
>>338474412
>no crack for some of the shittiest hypefest jew tricks to come out in the last two years
This is fine. If I have the urge to play the worst Arkham, Far Cry, Dragon Age, or basically any game EA is currently miscarrying, I deserve to pay the $10 retard tax associated with paying for them.
>>338474554
Can they actually do that? Like don't they lose money by cancelling customers?
>>338474697
The problem is that Denuvo is going to become the norm at this rate
Right now though Doom is the only game I would even consider playing out of all the games with Denuvo
>>338474697
arkham was out ages ago though m8
>>338474554
It's only certain people (like HBO) pressuring IPs to shut down torrent uploaders and egregious downloaders. It's far and away not the first time people have tried this. I mean, they wanted to send Napster users to jail. Whether anything happens at all remains to be seennothing will happen.
>>338474554
source?
is that just in america or yurope too?
>>338474412
the amount of energy you spend caring about game cracks could probably get you a job. which would result in more games and better quality of life. have you stopped to consider that?
I'll just go and play something else.
I BOUGHT A PC SO I COULD GET FREE GAMES
/v/ TOLD ME YOU COULD PIRATE EVERYTHING
YOU FAGGOTS LIED
>>338474412
>not having friends to steam family share with
kek
>>338474697
>Maybe if i downplay it I won't have to be seen a cyber nigger
>>338474798
Then I guess I will just have to bunker down during the storm. I've got a backlog that'll last me a good 5 years or so. If this doesn't get fixed by then then I guess I'll will have been beat.
>>338474624
That is exactly what I wanted to hear. I will threaten to leave if they bother me again.
>>338474856
It's just HBO being asspained that hundreds of thousands of people would rather torrent Game of Thrones 12 minutes after it has aired than spend extra $$$/mo paying for the privilege of watching it live.
>>338474412
WHO CARES
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>friends
>>338474975
>using torrents
>>338474856
It happened to my family in America specifically for GoT.
Another guy on /v/ told me it happened to him for a movie "Mad Max"
>>338475068
I'll be moving to the usa soon where this shit might actually be a problem. What do you use?
>>338475068
Don't tell me you're a fucking normie who watches Netflix or Hulu or Prime shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5s0Pv38u4
>>338474975
>12 minutes after it has aired
Not to mention the episodes are always like 30 to 40 minutes late in the HBO Nordic website, the episodes are up on torrent sites before the episode is even watchable
>>338474412
And nobody gives a fuck
>>338475068
>le epic torrents are pleb tier meme
simpbly eric, anon ;^)
>>338474901
>downplay the 5 games that are barely worth playing compared to the literal tens of thousand other games I can pirate that are better by a power of 10
>>338475198
but doom m8, looks fun
>>338475114
If you're going for comcast/time warner, while overpriced, they will never fucking bother you about this shit.
soon
>>338475258
If I wanted to play a shitty slower version of Dood I'd play Brutal Doom
>>338474554
So, you just encrypt your connection through a proxy, and no one will be the wiser?
>>338475283
>Will use Denuvo
>Pirates will have to resort to calling it shit
>>338475198
>Still a cyber nigger
>Still trying to rationalize stealing
Try and justify it all you want, you're still a nigger
Daily reminder that most people would not have bought the games that they pirated
I'm fucking dirt poor, I only buy humble bundles and maybe a full price game for the multiplayer once a year.
>>338475260
at&t uverse or fios?
>>338475376
You could try getting a job.
>>338475317
HR didn't have denuvo and that was shit so I have a good hunch
>>338475356
I don't have to rationalize piracy to tell you that most if not all games using denuvo are terrible, that should be self evident.
>>338475438
>and that was shit
>I don't have to rationalize piracy to tell you that most if not all games using denuvo are terrible
>>338475198
What are you talking about? Look at these irresistible gems, kept pristine and unsullied by filthy pirates. Can't wait to play "Mirror's Edge sequel literally no one asked for", maybe I'll fill the time with "mediocre and inexplicably episodic Hitman game" or "low-effort uncelebrated Far Cry rehash".
Just Cause 3?
>>338475438
>HR didn't have denuvo
Do you know why? Because Denuvo was released in 2014 you dumbfuck.
>and that was shit so I have a good hunch
Good meme
>>338475417
I have one, and I pay all my own bills, that's why I'm fucking dirt poor.
>>338475310
I was wondering if this was possible.
But what do I know about what the ISP can see.
>>338475394
if I had to choose, I'd go FiOS simply because of the speed (FiOS is fiber optic IIRC), I don't know if they'd give a fuck about you pirating though.
>>338475536
Both are fiber optic.
>>338475490
>the list keeps growing
Glorious
>>338475307
I don't want this pixel fest shit. I'm not 6 like when first doom came
>>338475536
The ISPs themselves usually don't give a fuck until they receive court orders from copyright trolls.
>>338475487
>I don't have an argument
>>338475493
>Do you know why? Because Denuvo was released in 2014 you dumbfuck.
yeah no shit retard.
>>338475490
I hate how Ubisoft seems to be determined on using the Anno series as hotbed for their DRM bullshit.
>>338475490
>pirated anno
>pirated mad max but it was shit
>pirated batman
>NUH-UH NO CRACK EVER NEVER
it's just a matter of time.
>>338475490
I've pirated at least two of those games. What's this unpirateable shit?
>>338475686
>I don't have an argument
You neither,
Its shit its not a valid one.
>>338475490
is there some kind of criteria for using Denovo that states the games have to be shittier than their prequels? Or is it just a coincidence that greed-headed artistically bankrupt cash companies are attracted to Denuvo?
>>338475490
>maybe I'll fill the time with "mediocre and inexplicably episodic Hitman game"
>mfw it's pretty much the best Hitman game around next to blood money and all you can do is call it shit
>>338475528
When you use a vpn and the traffic is encrypted, the only thing your ISP can see is that you are using a vpn.
>>338474412
I really don't even care because I haven't pirated a game in five years. I just skip shit that doesn't interest and buy what does on sales.
>>338475725
Okay here I go
Its fucking poorly paced, repetitive, pretentious tripe with shitty gameplay that involves you holding crouch while going up behind someone to press a button to watch an animation or shooting the shitty peashooters at the guys who's peashooters are slightly better and the only reason you queers like it is because of the 9th grade level plot.
>>338475528
They'll be able see the data load but not what you're doing with it.
>i pirate games because its better
>i dont play new games
>I wait for them on sales
>Guess i will just stop playing games
>i buy cheap russian cdkeys
How fucking POOR are all of you?
>>338475490
I could buy access to a Family Share Steam account for a dollar, download the game and keep Steam offline, anyway.
>>338475770
Cool, let me know when the finish releasing the remaining 71% of the game.
>>338475778
Thanks for the info, it will truly come in handy for a poor person such as myself.
>>338475918
>he thinks people stay rich by spending money on videogames
>>338475983
>He thinks rich or actually "not poor" people will even feel losing $60 every week.
>>338475918
A lot of people splurge on their PC and then have no money for games.
>shilling for DRM
Man, it's fucking sad to see faggots like OP come to /v/ and just ruin the place even more than it already is.
>>338476046
>implying those people wouldn't rather spend the money on something else
>>338475918
I literally waited for flash sales to buy most of my games.
Some games go from $30 -> $5.
I am really fucking poor. I'd rather wait months for a sale than to buy it full price.
To people actually defending the dog shit that is Denuvo, why? Honest question.
>>338476140
Stockholm Syndrome
>>338476140
They're trying to get a rise out of people. no one who plays PC games actually fucking thinks DRM is anything but bad.
>>338475917
That sounds perfect then. I feel I should have started masking my actions ages ago.
>>338475918
There hasn't been a game that's worth 60 burgers in a long time for me.
I pirate games that look fun but have shit/dead devs.
>>338476140
>No fps drop
>No annoying perma online shit
How is it dogshit?
>>338476140
It's like asking why you would actually defend a cure for AIDS while all it does is kills niggers, coal burners and faggots.
>>338475802
Fuck, no place is safe.
I wouldn't mind it if there still were demo versions of games so I could try them before buying.
>>338476140
Revenge on pirates who brag about getting games for free.
>>338476140
Stay mad piratekek, there is literally nothing wrong with Denuvo. Only people mad about it are pirates.
>>338476140
Because some people actually enjoy PC gaming and despise pirates for nearly murdering it with their selfishness and greed.
>>338476407
>>338476308
It hampers modding
>>338475184
He's right though.
>>338476492
Source
>>338476481
>Nearly Murdering it
>arguably the strongest years for the platform were after starforce and securom lost relevance
>>338474554
So what VPN will you all be using?
>>338476492
paid mods brah
>>338474798
>The problem is that Denuvo is going to become the norm at this rate
This is a good thing not a bad thing, piracy should be stopped at once
>>338475918
/v/ was always pro-piracy until redditors like you arrived
now you can't even start a good thread asking about something before redditors post "it's on sale bro XD" "what? it's dirt cheap bro XD" "le what are u poor haha XD"
now reddit itself is better in this regard you can easily discuss piracy, latest cracks and latest news, the only one thing better on /v/ right now is anonymity
>>338476603
>Starforce got cracked around the time the Xbox 360 got really popular
>Strongest years for the PC
>>338476603
Bullfuckingshit... The whole pc gaming industry was on life support in the middle years of the 00's. Steam and and the rise of digital distribution is pretty much what saved it.
>>338476797
>moving goalposts
retard
>>338476693
Not at all. Companies will push shittier and shittier games because people will not have a way of testing them out since demos are a thing of the past and reviewers are cancerous
At least this is not an issue in Steam because of the great refund policy
>>338476606
Not sure yet. A lot of them cost money. Have to make sure to get one that has an encrypted connection.
Apparently some of them track your info so you best pick wisely.
>>338476603
All those dead franchises, PC shooters getting consolized, RTS, Space Shooters, Tactical Shooters all pretty much dead. Yeah, man those were the days...
>>338476810
You're forgetting that steam was fucking unusable in the early years.
>>338476720
>Being pro-shit is good
Wew lad.
>>338475490
>bought 2 of those games
>both were awful and left a bitter taste in my mouth
I've found that 100% of the time anything with denuvo is hot garbage not worth the money.
I might buy DOOM if I had the chance to try it.
I'm not risking £30 on a probable turd.
>>338476821
How am I moving goalposts? I am arguing against your claim that those were the strongest years. All the console port shit and Call of Dutification happened there.
>>338476563
Guys who are making mods are having trouble
Stuff like auto-updating, and preventing the use of script-extensions kill most mods
If you want literal links I can google
http://justcause3mods.com/heres-current-situation-just-cause-3-modding/
https://www.reddit.com/r/JustCause/comments/3uxb0z/just_cause_3_mods_were_working_on_it/
https://community.nanos.io/index.php?/topic/34-development-blog-week-1/
>>338476246
> no one who plays PC games actually fucking thinks DRM is anything but bad.
That explains the popularity of Steam.
>>338476932
I don't. Actually I only created my account in 2k4 because that shit was garbage and I never let go of CS1.5 anyway. But toward 2k6/2k7, Steam really got big beyond Valve titles.
>>338477072
>steam is DRM
This argument again
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
>>338477037
Ugly and can't fight and bother people n ugly as shit n smell like dog,poop
>>338474412
I wonder, is it jews making all of these threads? I can play any game I want, there is no such thing as an "uncrackable" game
I just can't think of anyone else who would defend corporations, like I give a fuck lol
>>338474795
My ISP, Cox Communications, said they would terminate my Internet service for six months if I commit another infraction. They've shut it off many times and I told them I was sorry to get it back on. Going to buy a VPN subscription soon.
>>338477147
>there is no such thing as an "uncrackable" game
So where are the cracks?
Uncrackable doesn't need to mean literally impossible to crack, rather that it is too hard to crack that nobody can or will do it
>>338475068
>streaming
not even once
>>338474412
Anyone else found it amusing that every game to date that's used Denuvo has sold like shit?
>>338477037
>nuh uh XD
haha XD
>>338477147
>I can play any game I want, there is no such thing as an "uncrackable" game
Gimme Crack for Doom pls
>>338475595
They don't. Utilizing their connection is business for them, and they want to keep you happy so you keep paying for service. Letters are only ever sent out in the most 'FINE GEEZ' manner possible, and they will rarely ever follow up on it.
Comcast is a special case as they not only provide internet but also own tons of media property themselves, which is why Comcast can be one of the least piracy-tolerant ISPs.
In the end it largely depends on your regional office, some are more lax than others, some are complete hardasses who send you letters the second they catch you.
>>338475734
It generally demonstrates a lack of faith on the publisher's behalf.
>>338477138
>Steam is not DRM
>>338475490
Warhammer is great desu
>>338474412
Well, publishers may just realize that piracy wasn't that big a problem in the first place, and that all the money they pour into Denuvo licence, they don't make it back with sales.
Worse, they may realize many of the pirates actually bought games, and without a piratable version to try it, they plain won't buy it.
Publishers will lose as always, because they're fucking retarded.
>>338477214
>Gay sex with HATS ON
I don't really pirate anymore, but I've not seen a single game that looks good use Denuvo.
According to that list in the thread Total War Warhammer uses it, so that might be the first one.
But so far using Denuvo seems to be a seal of mediocrity.
>>338477254
Yup
Steamworks is the DRM, Steam is just a distribution platform
But the way it supposedly works is that unless you specifically say you want it to be DRM free your game will have Steamworks by default on Steam
>>338477139
>>338477234
Not an argument.
>>338477212
>>338477236
Patience brother, it'll come eventually
>>338477276
But DOOM is a sucess so Denuvo s king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmJay_qdNc
>>338477254
Okay, since you clearly didn't fucking bother clicking the link I'll spoonfeed it to you
>This is a list of games and software available on Steam that do not use any third party DRM (e.g GFWL, Uplay, etc.) or the Steamworks CEG ("Custom Executable Generation") component, making them effectively Launcher-free once installed. This means that you can copy the game folder anywhere you want and launch the .exe program directly without being online or having Steam or a third party software running.
>Inb4 you have to install through steam so its DRM
You'd have to download it anyways queer, is GOG DRM because you have to download the installer?
I try all games before I buy them.
If devs make this impossible, you know for a fact it's because the game is shit and they don't want people to know it until after they've paid the price of admission and they bet on them being too indifferent to return them.
For me it only means I avoid a shit game, and if I STILL want it despite of that, I'll wait a couple of years and get it for spare change.
>>338477398
It probably won't, I don't think any group is even actively trying to crack it.
Last I heard 3DM gave up on Just Cause 3. Not that I want to play it but just an indication
>>338476140
Because its the only DRM to actually get it right by not being intrusive, or requiring additional launchrs/accounts, it's basically invisible to the end user unless you're looking for it specifically (in which case you're the exact person the DRM is intended to keep out)
People shit on DRM in the past for being obnoxious bloatware and wished it was like Denuvo, but when Denuvo delivers, everyone balks, showing their true colors.
The only reason to be mad about Denuvo is because it stops you from getting the game for free. It's that simple.
>>338477483
>I try all games before I buy them.
Good on you but most pirates pirate something finish it delete it and never buy it.
>>338477454
>You'd have to download it anyways queer, is GOG DRM because you have to download the installer?
You don't have to install GOG Galaxy or GOG downloader though so your point is moot.
>>338477185
>Cox Communications
Now I'm worried. Motherfuckers.
>>338477454
GOG isn't DRM because you can easily torrent their releases and it will work right out of the box.
With Steam releases you need cracks and shit.
>>338477185
I'm using them too. I only got my first warning. I need to find a good VPN now.
>>338474554
DAILY REMINDER
WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE "WESTERN" TIMES OF THE INTERNETThis is not a joke though
>>338477276
>Worse, they may realize many of the pirates actually bought games
Is there any truth to this? At best I see people pirating and then buying when it's 99% off.
>>338477582
>not living in Russia
lol kid
>>338477326
>Steam and steamworks are two different companies
stop trying to sound smart, you aren't
>>338477550
You'd still have to download the installer through them
>>338477579
>with steam releases you need cracks and shit
Thats if the devs don't disable steamworks. any game on that list can be torrented and work right out of the box.
>>338477405
I seriously doubt that
Less than half a million in 10 days is shit
No denuvo game broke a million, that's incredibly disappointing
>>338477610
Studies have shown that 1% of people who pirate pirate something like 90% of all content and that same 1% also spend 300% more on products than the average consumer.
>>338477582
I know, if I get the money... I'm outta this damn country.
>>338476140
redditors, normalfags, moralfags influx
>>338477610
None. He's just a butthurt faggot.
Pirates who used to buy on sales, will still buy on sales. If they really want to test the game they can just download it and test it for two whole hours before asking for a refund.
I dunno what it cost devs to get a license for denuvo, but it certainly isn't mindless.
Problem with people like him is that they are a breed of entitled selfish cunts who aren't nearly as smart as they believe they are.
>>338477241
Same with my provider Sky in the UK. They believe that it would be hypocritical for a content provider to be lax on piracy, so they've blocked all the pirate sites and always cave in to copyright owners and send letters out.
>>338477697
What was the last time a PC game broke a milion in a week?
Talking about big releases.
DS3 probably did it but including all platforms.
>>338477685
>You'd still have to download the installer through them
And? You don't need to download a program in order to do that. That's the point.
>>338477795
Fallout 4
>>338477717
>studies
>1% of people who pirate pirate something like 90% of all content
That statement doesn't even make sense or do you imply each one of them download thousands of time the same torrent just to boost statistics? Stupid.
>>338477717
Studies have shown that studies have shown arguments are pretty shit unless you can direct to the studies have shown studies at hand.You know who else relies on Studies have shown bs? Snarky Sarky.
>>338477872
That's the kind of bullshit you hear all the time discussing social equality and equity between genres with feminists. Are pirates confirmed sjws?
>>338477631
Well I live in France so we still have some good time left but Murricans are in for a wild ride
>>338477717
that wasnt a study that was a claim by the CEO or some shit of ubisoft. The figure he came up with was because of the number of games purchased vs free to play games on the market and people playing them.
Literally 2 numbers that have nothing to do with each other
>>338477981
>I live in France
Fuck this the only thing that made PC worth it was I didn't have to pay for games.
>>338475915
holy shit that bitch is a fucking dumbass...
>>338475490
I'm almost positive MGSV was cracked within a week of its release.
Why are people trying to shill Denuvo as being "Uncrackable" constantly on /v/ and shit?
>>338477582
>the beginning of the end
It well and truly over about 5 years ago.
>>338478163
Denovu is being constantly developed to be harder to crack
Uncrackable is not question of absolutes, but thresholds.
You make it hard enough to crack that the feat to do it becomes too much to bare.
>>338475490
Hol' up there nigga. First of all Mad Max was pirated so wtf?!
Secondly Warhammer Total War gonna be protected by Denuvo? hopefully the same way as Mad Max bcs I refuse to buy anything from CA bcs we all know those jews will put milions of DLC for the simplest of things after Warhammer Total War releases.
>>338476932
And almost nothing was on Steam in the early years.
>>338477521
>Because its the only DRM to actually get it right
see
>>338477042
>>338477214
Holy shit, this picture is absolutely perfect in every way. Thank you.
>>338478102
>That guy who's just standing there
0 fucks
>>338477582
In america maybe
in europe ISP never bothers with this shit unless court forces them to do it
besides downloading movies and shit is legal where i live, just uploading is not
>>338477454
Even if not all games on Steam use DRM, the fact is that most big titles do, provided by Steam, and they are popular.
>>338477631
>not living in Russia
>every website that has even a slight relation to porn or torrents, or even MENTIONS drugs is insantly blocked by roskomnadzor
Хopoшaя пoпыткa. Hpaвитcя плaтить зa пpoкcи?
>>338477214
That was 10 years ago m8
You can stream in high quality now
>>338478591
>school boy can't do anything about government restrictions
top kek famsmh
>>338478673
You can evade the blocks in any country retard, I'm talking about your point of living in Russia, which makes no sense since there's more blocked shit there than anywhere else. I bet only North Korea or Syria or Egypt have more.
>>338478584
That's no one's fault but the devs. the option wouldn't exist if there was no demand for it.
>>338474624
Fucking based.
>>338478648
>That was 10 years ago m8
just like his image
>>338474412
Your butthurt is so strong, you keep posting this shit for month or two.
>>338474412
dont care
>>338475918
By pirating i could afford myself shit like a 1100 euro pc or a 1300 euro big-ass tv.
Your shitty "lel u so poor" argument is retarded, i'll simply spend the money on other things.
>>338478864
did you not recieve the memo?
podracing levels are sky-high
>>338479697
>tumblr
denuvo is regularly getting cracked
even the company that makes denuvo stated that it isn't uncrackable
it just takes longer. i don't get where this idea that it protects games for years and years comes from
>>338479770
>what is google images?
>>338479818
the post in the image is literally a tumblr post
>>338476829
>great refund policy
Mediocre refund policy. 2 hours is not enough to accurately tell if a game is shit.
Game breaking bugs can occur only after the two hours, for example.
>I can't afford a 60 dollar games
It's like these fucktards don't know Steam weekend deals as well as their Summer and Winter deals doesn't exist. This alone makes any of your arguments invalid with the exception of the modding.
>Modding community
How about just straight out asking the devs? It's super effective.
>>338479928
>im going to rehost the image i found on google image because source isnt anon-approved
>>338474554
This is the emptiest of the empty threats. ISPs don't give a fuck what you do with your bandwidth as long as they're making money off you every month.
>>338479993
I'm talking about the actual fucking image itself is an image of a tumblr post, not that the image is hosted on tumblr (it isn't)
>>338479770
>dropping a LFG group.gif
It's already a proven fact, studied, that piracy in many ways helps the industry.
The industry wouldn't grow at such a phenomenal rate back then if it weren't for piracy.
Many people would not have discovered the joys of video games without piracy because the games were so expensive.
Also, those equating piracy to stealing is stupid as hell.
since this is a steam thread now
>go on steam for ck2 - 40 bucks
>check out some key site - 8 bucks
and it even worked, without VAT too
>>338480141
I do this exclusively
The prices even fall during steam sales to be even cheaper
>>338480096
why the fuck does it matter?
why do you have to be this fucking autistic?
>>338477185
>using cux
>>338480312
why AREN'T you this autistic?
>>338478119
Why?
I don't see anything weird
>>338474554
In what kind of shithole do you guys live where this is a thing?
>>338475712
>>338475721
>>338478163
>>338478271
The only Denuvo games that are pirateable are protected by denuvo v1. Denuvo v3 is already there and the scene completely gave up to crack denuvo.
>>338475490
Fuck...after seeing Warhammer on the list I just pre-order it, fuck it
The reason I tolerate AT&T is that they give a absolutely zero fucks what you do. They still throttle your connection to media sites like everyone else, but they make zero efforts to send you letters telling you to stop doing stuff.
Why do ISPs even do this? It's like they purposely want to lose customers.
>>338480130
>already proven fact, studied
I stopped there, then saw the last line..
>stupid as hell
Sums you up pretty well. Kill yourself.
>people actually think piracy affects sales
I just gonna stop playing games if piracy ever becomes an infeasibility.
>>338481035
>Hey stop disagreeing with me!!
>A-Also end your life because you have different opinions!
The edge is real
>>338477138
>this shit list again
>just a handful of titles compared to Steam's grand library
>out of this handful you'll be hard pressed to find many games that aren't indieshit
>Must delete/rename the following from the game folder
>Delete libSteamworksNative.dll (Windows) or libSteamworksNative.so (Linux)
>Delete or rename steam_api.dll
>Will launch Steam if client is installed; rename Steam.exe or uninstall client to run DRM-free
These aren't DRM free titles: they just have an implementation so weak that it can be cracked by filesystem operations. It's still bypassing the DRM, though.
>GAME WILL NOT SAVE OR LOAD IF RUN OUTSIDE OF STEAM
Several games don't save or have other major problems, probably just because the DRM implementation is even weaker.
Bottomline, you can bet your pretty little ass that Steam is DRM.
>>338476140
I don't understand, why are you trying to defend stealing?
>>338481141
>everyone is as retarded as I am
Anyway, no you won't. What's with pirates of the constant stealing and lying?
What /v/ wants you to think:
>IT'S HAPPENING
>THE WORLD IS ENDING
What is actually happening:
>thieves cannot steal video games any more
When did you grow out of stealing video games, /v/?
If your reply is in any way meant to imply that stealing intellectual property is not theft but sharing, then you have no valid argument, in law or theory.
>>338481217
Why are you calling a man's ass "pretty" and "little"?
That's super gay, man. You're gay.
>>338481282
A few years ago, but championing less options for people and more power to greedy publishers makes you an enormous fucking faggot. Just because we don't do it anymore doesn't automatically mean we have to be gigantic massive fucking faggots like you're being right now.
>>338481204
>opinions
You aren't giving an opinion when you start with the muh proven fact studies, pulled out of your ass, premises.
>>338481295
Well, maybe it's pretty.
>>338481373
>championing less options
I'm not. I'm just glad that thieves are getting BTFO.
If I buy a video game, I'm able to play it. That's fine.
Now you'll have to save up your NEET cash for another 2 weeks to buy your video games or upgrade your $2000 state-funded annual rig slightly less often.
Poor you :'(
>>338474554
>tfw you don't live in a third world shithole with only like 2 "competing" ISPs and data caps that blocks shit left and right because muh morals.
But there are already games that use Denuvo that got cracked. What's your point?
>>338481473
You are. Literally by definition of "less options" and the literal fact that piracy is an option, you are.
You lose this argument. Stop.
>tfw cant pirate on ps4, xbox one, and more PC titles in the near future
what the fuck do we do? Do you think there will be a "one crack" solution once a group finds a way to crack it? im being serious.
>>338481227
It's not stealing.
If we could duplicate food the way we can duplicate data I would argue for the right to copy food the same way I argue for the right to copy data.
Intellectual property as a concept is an improper tool at best, a completely outdated one at worst. Need to be done with.
And it will in time.
>>338480982
The money they get from massive media labels is way more than the money they lose from terminating piratecucks' services.
>>338481568
>the literal fact that piracy is an option,
Piracy is theft. Theft is illegal. Theft is an invalid option.
The only options:
Buy a game
Don't buy it
Borrow it
Stealing was never a valid option. Stop.
Pirates are faggots. test
youtu.be/GpWemN1YNTw
Working on it now, give me 30 minutes
>>338481657
Piracy is not theft.
>>338481568
I am not a thief, so I literally can't lose this or any further argument. It is a complete impossibility.
>>338481657
You sound as big an idiot as a Comcast marketer
>>338481228
I will. I mean, I'll probably buy a 5 buck cd key for a multiplayer game here and there, but I already do that. I'll simply play less games, and besides, the most recent game I've actually pirated and played was max payne 3, so that tells you how much I am interested in the current gaming industry.
Anyway, why are you so antagonistic? Why do you spew such vitriolic hatred towards people who pirate? What's it to you? I don't really understand the mindset behind this.
Guys a lot of people worked hard on DOOM why would you steal from them? Just my .02
>>338481701
Tell that to a judge. You don't make the rules you fucking prick.
>>338481769
>why do you hate people who lie, cheat and steal at the expense of everyone else
Really?
>>338481657
>being a moralfag
Who the fuck cares, if I could get away stealing tangible shit without any repercussions I'd do it too, just like most people. Get off your fucking high-horse.
>>338481797
Judges have ruled piracy is not theft
But it is still a crime
>>338481969
>just like most people
In niggerland maybe.
>>338477185
suddenlink has been doing this to me for years and they've never turned it off, but I got torguard after the first warning, I've had other warnings since then but they've said they only suspend my internet if I get six in a year I think, and I think I've had four total. so they've all been fairly spaced out I hope if I got two more they would be forgiving. I don't expect to get two more though.
be careful with chrome too, I had torguard on and used chrome to magnet link episode 3 of game of thrones a few weeks ago and got a warning so I think chrome ratted me out or something, idk I was kind of drunk I'm not sure how I fucked it up, I had the app kill configured if the vpn connection dropped so I don't know how they saw me. I got episode 4 no problem though but I used ie and I've been getting movies np also.
>>338481797
You tell that that to a judge. And the answer you'll be given back is that piracy is not theft.
And, in theory, I live in a democracy. Meaning I do get to make the rules. Not by myself, but supposedly I'm part of the process. Thee concept is probably alien to you.
Amusing fact: copyright was created to protect creators from editors, who would at the time rack money by selling books without ever paying the authors.
It's now used to protect companies from the public. Quite often at the expense of creators, who can even be deprived of their work.
So yeah, outdated tool.
>>338481657
>Stealing was never a valid option.
Says who?
>>338481969
>just like most people
Oh those illusions. Get a job and become an honest person.
Im seriously worried that denuvo will start offering their service cheaper and AA companies will use it..or do you think developers will realize that it harms players experience since it hinders performances on PC and SSDs
>>338481954
>at the expense of everyone else
But that's wrong. You're not causing any expenditure for the developers for pirating their games. It's the same as not buying it, and being unable to pirate it isn't a guarantee that you'll buy it. Most people pirate because either they're poor or unwilling to spend on games, and making them unable to pirate won't magically stop them being poor and unwilling to give money for games. They'll just stop playing them.
You could color it any way you want but piracy will never be the same thing as stealing in the mind of the average joe, nor does it have the same the same legal ramification as stealing, so I don't understand why people constantly make these parallels.
>>338482228
I can guaranfuckingtee most people don't pay for music and people with a half functioning brain torrent movies instead of using netflix.
>>338482030
In anyland. Economics major here. The very first thing you learn here is the concept of economic rationality, which boils down to "people will always want everything at the lowest possible price".
What's the absolute lowest price? Zero. Free. People buy things instead of stealing them only because the fear of retribution makes the prospect unfavorable from a risk-reward point of view.
>>338482338
>it hinders performances on PC and SSDs
>>338482338
Who cares about performance and meme drives, it's already preventing people from using unsanctioned mods. That's the biggest problem of Denuvo.
>>338482386
I would download more than I'd even watch if I could torrent and not get sent letters. But netflix is dumb too, it's too easy to sit in front of it all day for a small fee. At least torrenting takes work.
>there are actually impulsive retards who feel really effected by denuvo and now feel the need to buy every denuvo game to continue their habit of playing every game that's released.
>>338474412
I only buy denuvo games because I can just pirate the other games.
Anybody else do the same?
LMAO
>>338481526
That was because of an exploit in the Denuvo software, it was never properly cracked. They patched the bug in the latest versions
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>338482925
I haven't pirated in years, but I refuse to buy games with Denuvo. So I guess it's the opposite? Just instead of pirating I just don't even look at it.
I want to build a new computer but every time I come to /V/ I decide not to because they always give me a reason to hate videogames, thanks.
What happens when the people who crack games get a hold of and start utilising quantum processors?
>>338483893
we break RSA and SSL and cracking games is the least of anybody's worries
>>338483893
Then we're gonna see some serious shit.
Poorfags
>>338477545
And you think making pirating impossible make the kind of people who pirate buy the games instead?
>>338482947
>that last paragraph
fuck that guy
>>338484474
>animeposters
>>338480521
look at what she's holding
>>338484650
>stock photo posters
>>338484474
>Poorfags
>says a guy using a screencap of an anime without any permission from a copyright holder
Welcome aboard
>>338484650
>>338484886
You better pray your mommy pays the internet bill this month or else... YOUR LIVES ARE OVER!!!
>>338479697
>tfw you just want to podrace just one more time
>>338485030
>still using copyrighted material without permission
Only thing worse than a thief is a thief in denial
So how many GB of stolen material do you use for shitposting?
>>338477760
YOU are not nearly as smart as you think. little nigglet.
All of you inbreds that clap at the thought of no piracy anymore are short-sighted little fucks that will have rough awakening at some point down the line.
They will have us by the balls completely, if you think the industry is blatantly jewing the consumer now, wait and see what they are really capable off..
>>338484830
A gun?
I still don't get it
Guns tend to shot themselves?
>>338484848
>slaposter
>>338482376
You want the fruits of another man's labor but you proudly proclaim that you would never compensate him for it.
There's this concept in human interactions called "go fuck yourself". I am sure that to some degree, developers are warming up to Denuvo for this very reason.
>>338485282
>Changing the subject from Video Games piracy to this
That wont stop you from being poor. I bet you hate Overwatch. Not because its bad, but because you can't play it. Or maybe you stole money from your mommy you fucking cancer.
>>338485353
So you're as dumb as she is
Which one are you, /v/?
>>338485491
>pirating video games is wrong
>pirating anime is not wrong
??? huh???
They are taking their sweet time to crack it but I haven't brought a game in decades and I am not going to stat now. Besides all games are shit now and my back catalog is full.
>>338485454
>slaposter
>>338485542
I live in a country where not even cops carry guns
>>338485491
If you didn't notice, this thread is about piracy in general, not about poorfags
Not my problem you got a small dick so you compensate by throwing shit at anonymous people online and seeing what sticks
>>338485587
Please go back to /a/
>>338485704
I never held a gun either but I can see why unsafe handling of firearms is fucking retarded
>>338485479
>you want the fruits of another man's labor but you proudly proclaim that you would never compensate him for it
I couldn't give two fucks about faceless corporations to be honest, laddie:^) The devs receive wages, you know? Or are you actually retarded enough to think the profits of a game goes to the developers unless they're indie?
What's up with americans and their insatiable desire to bend over for the corporate dick?
>>338485802
Look at the hammer, there is no way that gun could shot, you just only shit on her because she is a womyn
>>338485716
That still wont stop you from being this poor.
You are POOR. P.O.O.R.!
prime example
>>338485479
I'm stunned by the sheer short-sightedness of you kids.
Piracy is our "go fuck yourself". and it never hurt good products, ever. No matter what medium, it always only showed growth. Guess who only benefits from denuvo, shitty developers/Publisher's.
Not the good ones and certainly not the consumer, that is us in case you inbred fuckups forgot about that. Good developers always only gained from piracy, never the other way around. And bad products always gained from anti-piracy/not spreading knowledge about the product.
i hate you kids so much, can't you just die? Pretty please just fucking die already. Whole genrations of fuckups and idiots bred by other fuckups and inbreds.
>>338474412
>no crack
Then how did I play Mad Max, Lords of the Fallen, Inquisition, Arkham Knight and The Phantom Pain?
>>338474412
>This specific version of denuvo has no crack and never will
>I know I said that about previous versions of denuvo as well as every copy protection before it, but this time I mean it.
>>338485769
>pirates anime and movies and TV shows
>Doesn't pirate video games because its morally wrong
???
You just talked yourself a corner you are either false flagging or mentally challenged
>>338485769
>>338485896
>lel so randum
>he's poor if I call him poor
Only poorfags spend time on 4chan randomly insulting people
>>338485936
>>338480840
I'm tired of you faggots
>inb4 denuvoshill
>>338485930
y-you're just a p-poorfag haah
>>338485930
Piracy has always been wrong, it's been like that for the past 10 years and it's only thanks to steam that buying games became a far superior option to pirating them due to how terrible pirated games are in how complicated it is to actually run them.
I'd rather be a good consumer that supports buying bad games than a thief that steals good ones.
>>338485831
>What's up with americans and their insatiable desire to bend over for the corporate dick?
They are by far the dumbest shits in 1st world countries according to studies. And they think they are number 1. That pretty much sums them up, dumb as shit and loudmouthed like a fat black women on the bus.
>>338485894
Believe that if you want
>>338486078
>piracy is stealing
>>338485831
>>338485930
>this amount of mad
I bet that if the Denuvo team somehow managed to create a version that works with audio and video (much larger reach than games) all hell would break loose. Entitled normies might even start sending death threats to publishers because they couldn't pirate their music anymore.
>>338474412
Might as well switch to console now.
>>338486071
???
>>338486092
>They are by far the dumbest shits in 1st world countries according to studies. And they think they are number 1.
Well they are number 1 according to even you. In being the dumbest shits that is.
>>338475915
I'm more bothered by the shitty unfunny text, please delete that garbage from your computer and save this instead
>>338486262
They wouldn't because they still have Youtube
>>338481418
>pulled out of the ass
Are you blind? And incapable of using google search?
A lot of devs and games even attest to this fact.
>>338486078
The problem you have is that you are partially right but also wrong in your standpoint.
Steam is a good thing, because it offers fair prizes and a review platform. A customer that feels treated fairly will want to buy. A customer that feels fucked over, not so much.
>Piracy has always been wrong
Just wrong, son. Piracy is a natural thing and it was always also not a problem, ever. Again, at least not for good products. Your false righteousness aside I respect your stance, but I think it's idiotic and childish.
There are actual videogame threads that get deleted on random whims before this shit and it's been on the front page for weeks now.
>>338486489
Don't bother, you're talking to the same kind of people as antivaccers, global warming deniers, moon landing deniers, etc
Even if you spoonfed him actual studies, he'd just handwave it all
>>338486489
>devs getting rich because of piracy
Give me examples. Right now.
>>338486262
>Entitled
There is this word again.
You know that it goes both ways, right?
You are not entitled to money just because you made something.
Let that sink in little nigglet. If you got a shitty product it won't sell, because it's shit.
The most important thing: contrary to popular belief, Denuvo is NOT a newly developed and modern super-protection! In fact, behind Denuvo hides the ordinary VMProtect, from Russian roots, with minor differences (like a kind of fork). The mythical “strength” of this protection is the lack of a good debugger for debugging x64 (64-bit executable PE files). The beloved OllyDbg debugger/disassembler works only with x86 executables, and it’s x64 version has not yet been released. The only (barely) suitable debugger is x64dbg, but at the moment it is still a very embryonic, weak and poorly-optimized product.
Ironically, Denuvo’s popularity gave x64dbg a huge boost in contributions from several programmers.
>>338486187
I tried training my shotgun to hunt by itself but it turns out guns don't work that way. Sorry leftard but the truth is guns only go off when you pull the trigger.
>>338486273
Don't bother, my console is caked in dust and regret.
I havent brought a video game in almost 5 months now
1. because fuck buying $60 AAA games with almost no replay value aka almost all games now
2. I can just pirate games, most of which i stop playing after an hour
3. I spend my money on other shit
video games are actually dead now, next game i will buy will be butterlord probably since that deserves the money
i would pirate DOOM but not cracked yet, fuck paying all that money for a 10 hour single player experience lol thats for idiots
>>338480548
Americant. Seriously, American ISPs love to treat their customers like criminals because there's often no alternative ISP in a givin' area and they can get away with it.
>>338486739
We wait for a bit and Denuvo is fucked, alright.
>>338481035
Not him, but I just wanna tell you how insanely ignorant and wrong you are. You know just in case no one told you yet little man.
also this a 18+ site, leave immediately.
>>338486713
>If you got a shitty product it won't sell
But apparently it is good enough that people want it anyway and will whine and bitch about how the crack is a few days late. It appears that all too often a game will be judged to be worth playing but not worth [insert generic price]; therefore the next step is to pirate it for free and never pay a cent to the developer!
There's also the problem of "nothing beats free", which affects even good products and good devs. Not that you care, of course.
>>338486739
are all denuvo games 64 bit? I didnt even notice that.
>>338485991
Your presumption is mentally challenged kid.
>>338486021
You're poor. Accept it. I'm not saying I buy all my games at 60 USD day 1. I'm just saying you're poor. Your game library consist of pirated games that you couldn't afford.
>B-B-But I was only testing the game!
LMAO!!!! I love this excuse you poorfags use all the time. Steam even gives you the ability to test the games you wont and fully refunding them without any hoops to go through. NO excuse, you filthy poorfag.
>>338474554
But anon, my corporate overlords said these guys were the REAL problem, and I shouldn't pay attention as their fingers gradually creep into our homes and daily lives. You wouldn't steal a car, would you?
>>338481282
>When did you grow out of stealing video games, /v/?
That's actually funny because I grew into it after I was as stupid as you. Because I realized I believed corporate myths and my indoctrinated self.
Well there is still hope for you too, son.
>>338487208
That's not what the steam refund system is for. I hate people like you that refund every game they buy because you're too stupid to research it and then complain when Steam warns them about making too many refunds.
>>338486758
>it's safe so it's okay to treat guns like toys
Sure
>>338486758
The four rules are not there for you to disregard because you think you're past the newbie zone.
>>338481282
>If your reply is in any way meant to imply that stealing intellectual property is not theft but sharing, then you have no valid argument, in law or theory.
Oh the irony
>>338486078
>I'd rather be a good consumer that supports buying bad games
Good goy
>>338487208
>you're poor because I make baseless assumptions
>steam refunds are for testing games
It's amazing how one person can be this wrong
>>338487174
>that people want it anyway and will whine and bitch
Yes people are shit, welcome to planet earth. That doesn't mean you should cater or arrange systems around those fuckups.
You are probably one of the faggots that cry rivers of tears when you see a post in here of someone bashing your favorite game and then go on a passive aggressive post rampage about how /v/ said your game is shit.
In short, just fucking end yourself. Free us from your useless self.
>>338487208
>anime reaction image
>retarded nonsense post
Like pottery
>>338487368
I love when noguns get all scared of guns. Why is it with you people that there is no grey area, either your gun is fully deactivated in a twelve inch thick steel safe with ammo kept on another continent or else you are literally three microseconds away from accidentally killing everyone on the entire planet?
I don't care how many action movies you've seen, guns do not go off unless the trigger is pulled.
>>338487174
>But apparently it is good enough that people want it anyway
How do they know it's good if they haven't even played it :^)
>>338487330
I fully research every single game I purchase. The fuck are you talking about nigger.
Let me be honest for second; I support piracy when it is used right - dodging bullshit practices that companies try to push onto their consumers.
But say; a game that comes with all of its content intact at no extra cost and yet you still pirate the game? Yeah, I'm against shit like this. You know who you are, you fucking cancers.
>>338487790
Hey, hey
Guess whatI'm not the one making Denuvo. Even when I die, it's not going to stop.
>>338481628
If we could duplicate money the way we can duplicate data I would argue for the right to copy money the same way I argue for the right to copy data.
>>338487208
>smug anime reaction pic
>LMAO!!!
>muh poorfag fallacy
>>338487174
>which affects even good products and good devs. Not that you care, of course.
Except it didn't. Ever.
You see you are talking out your scrawny little ass and I know that because I can look at the industry and how it only showed growth.
The only things that hurt good products in the past was wrong or none advertising, wrong release time or sheer dumb bad luck.
Just riddle me this you idiot, if what you are saying is true how come that every entertainment medium show'd only immense growth, since it started?
How can this be if piracy is the problem you make it out to be?
It's called deductive reasoning.
>>338487458
Okay let me explain things to you.
An unloaded gun.
is not dangerous.
Unless you club someone with it.
it doesn't matter how she holds it, even if she puts it up to her head and pulls the trigger, nothing is going to happen. Now stop being a fucking liberal cry baby who's so scared of guns.
>>338488030
That's not what you said mister backtrack. You said steam refunds are there for testign games and refunding them if you don't like them. That's not what the refunds are for at all. They're for games that work as advertised. using the refund system in the way you said is no different from piracy in the slightest.
>>338486758
>Sorry leftard but the truth is guns only go off when you pull the trigger.
I've seen videos of glocks (I think it was a glock) discharging on their own by just being shaken a little.
>>338486424
Can someone explain to a layman what is happening in this here photo image?
>>338488056
Yeah that's neato and all but what happened to your argument?
At the moment I can only assume you are realizing you were wrong all along.
>>338474554
This has been common practice for the last 20 years
They send you a warning and throttle your net to 1bit/s
All you need to do it ring them up and threaten to leave, full service gets restored in a day or so.
Because they want your money and dont give a fuck about some studio execs who dont pay them for lost customers.
>>338488326
Pointing guns towards yourself or other people when you don't have the intention of actually shooting them is generally a bad idea.
>>338487861
>I love when noguns get all scared of guns. Why is it with you people that there is no grey area
Oh yeah, label me and put me in a box while redirecting the issue to something else.
Discipline and procedural memory
Basically what this guy said
>>338487458
which you conveniently ignored
This isn't about gunfags vs nogunfags or womyn in the military. This is about a "professional" in uniform showing disregard towards firearms.
>>338488184
Oh, now you decided to reply. And the gun is unloaded. Accidental discharges never happen. And the other guy is a liberal crybaby now.
>>338488326
>gun is pointed at her
>never point a gun to anything alive if you do not intent to kill it. Number 1 rule.
>mfw I've had fun with all the games I've bought that have had denuvo on them
>mfw I preordered Total War Warhammer25% offand bought the second hitman episode
Apparently I'm killing the industry or something, but I'm having fun.
>>338488095
Really how did you get to become this retarded or were you born that way
>>338487748
>>338487820
>>338488118
I bet you nether of you play console vidya because you can't afford it. You tricked yourself into believing HURR DURR THERE ARE NO GEYMS when really it's just you being too poor to keep up with your console friends who out pace you.
>>338486935
Well that's funny, aren't americunts the most litigious people on earth? I'd thought they'd be the last people to put up with shit like that.
>>338475376
This. 99% of the game I pirate I would never buy anyway. Not worth the money. The only way Ill possibly buy it is if its massively discounted on a steam sale or something.
>>338488429
Note: doesn't matter if the gun is loaded, unloaded, safety on, etc
>>338488545
>more baseless assumptions that fall flat
>>338488545
Literally what
>>338488545
Except I own multiple consoles and all of them have been modded and hacked to play pirated backups
But good going mr assumptions. Thanks for admitting you're just a console war shitposter trying to meme it up in a piracy thread for the (you)s
>>338488545
Wait, this posting style looks awfully familiar, isn't this that shitposter from foolz or something?
>>338475376
>game its release
>download
>never play it
i remember doing this for a lot of games
eventually i play the game , its shit , and i delete it
>>338474412
Piracy BTFO
Every Denuvo game is a bestseller :^)
>>338486032
>the scene gave up
You're objectively a shill
>>338488480
unloaded guns will never go off. That is actually how it works. And I find it difficult to believe that anybody with an irrational fear of unloaded weapons is anything but a liberal pansy.
>>338488837
Piracy BTFO
Every Denuvo game is a bestseller :^)
>>338488663
The way you respond is so typical it can't be "baseless assumptions". More like the truth is hurting you.
>>338488738
I wonder how many honest games have you pirated for your piratebox.
>>338488869
>unloaded guns will never go off
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw
>>338488837
>>338488949
Holy mackerel Batman, literally game of all time!
>2016
>making a business selling copies of digital content
They're responsible for having devaluated their own work. They could have used their brains, studied the medium, and came up with something that could be sold, unlike mere computer programs. This is their own fault. And now that their business is taking a hit, they sink it so no one gets it.
Why don't they go sell sand in the desert?
>>338489295
>literally the first part of the video is him loading the gun
Well you sure showed me. Are all lefties this fucking stupid?
>>338489361
When they do that you get stupid shit like amiibo.
>>338489369
He made a mistake by greentexting the unloaded remark, but it's still a good point.
>guns do not go off unless the trigger is pulled
>>338489262
>honest games
so games were the developer didn't lie to sell it?those games don't exists
>>338489295
>>338489369
oh shit, my brain stopped working for a minute there, I meant to reply to this post
>>338486758
>guns only go off when you pull the trigger.
>>338474554
>americucks
>>338477634
This is bait, right? Nobody is stupid enough to think Steam is a company, right?
I actually played a cracked version of FIFA 15 like two months after release. But that's because the i5 2500k was their base CPU and they cracked that first.
It's crackable. You just have to crack it for every CPU. The scene should introduce some form of collaborative cracking where you volunteer your cpu/gpu to mine code to crack games.
>>338489578
So you only play triple A garbage. Ok anon.
>>338489536
Or games with an actually relevant multiplayer? Or games with an incredible collector's editions that aren't limited to 12 units and sold $8,000 by scrappers on ebay?
>>338489316
I was sarcastic. 400k sales for a triple AAA title is a flop.
Tomb Raider 2014 was considered a flop after more than 4 million sales.
Dead Space 3 is an example too.
And look at RoTTR.
Denuvo actually kills game sales. So bring it on. Can't wait for industry crash.
>>338489728
Like you already volunteer your PC to mine bitcoins?
>>338478648
You can stream high quality BR rips now?
>>338489907
Hey, that kind of technology is already blowing up in the financial sector, fintech they call it. It's gonna spread to every single thing imaginable.
>>338482338
>it hinders performances on PC and SSDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJZyeAR7H0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX379zScuZE
>>338477185
Simon?
>>338490287
It hardly kills SSDs, but it sure uses them more than if it wasn't there. Pirated games have superior performance, but there's nobody willing to test that because "hey let's defend DRM!"
>>338490704
To be fair none of the pirated game with denuvo has completely removed denuvo before.
>>338490704
>but it sure uses them more than if it wasn't there
No it doesn't, you can do the same test with a non Denuvo game an get the same results.
>>338489759
To be fair you just described 99% of console's library. The rest is mostly shovelware
>>338488991
You're so desperate to hurt anon with your assumptions it's pathetic.
>>338491391
I'm sorry but you lied anon. you don't own a console at all after that statement.
Seriously though, the easiest way to piss off a rich person is to own something expensive as a poor person. they literally think that they’re the only people who deserve nice things and will argue that you deserve to starve and die for it.
>>338491559
The way you respond is so typical it can't be a lie. More like the truth is hurting you.
>>338487208
>anime picture
>no real answers to any valid points
>only throws insults
classic /v/ enjoy the (you)
>>338491559
But I do. Literally nothing you say will change that.
God I love when consolefags try to use anti piracy arguments to shit on pc then get butthurt when it's turned around against them
>>338491767
The only thing (You) and your poor organization needs to know is that you are poor and butt hurt over companies using the strongest available asset to get rid of you.
>>338492115
>calls others ''poorfag''
>meanwhile he pirates movies, anime and TV shows.
You sure showed me anon
>>338489849
>Denuvo kills game sales
Shut the fuck up. Stop being mad and get a job. With your job comes money. Your animosity towards denuvo will go away
>>338492834
The funny thing is that with the numbers we have, that is to say given only Steam DRM games, we know that D44M is the best selling Denuvo game.
Think about that.
>weebs pretending to be rich with their autismbux or minimum wage while having no family, living at a 20m2 rented place and no other hobbies aside from vidya and weebshit
Lmao'ing @ u're existenceAnd no, i'm not implying that people who doesn't fit the weeb profile have legitimacy to pirate
>>338485330
>I know more than a billion dollar company because I post on 4chan
>>338492834
>being a wage cuck
i'd rather kms
>OMG PIRACY IS DEAD!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
No it's not, and it will never die. There is more than just video games ayy lmao.
>Movies
>Software
>TV Shows
>Music
And just about anything that has to be payed for digitally can and will be pirated.
>>338493279
Is that spunk?
>>338481475
Ironically third world shitholes are probably the best place to pirate/torrent because neither the government nor the ISP give two fucks about it
>>338474412
denuvo doesn't make me any more inclined to buy a game, in fact it's a good way to guarantee i won't
>>338486803
The problem is that you have actually contributed to the process by not voting with your dollars and rewarding the best game developers.
Lords of the Fallen
>"May 2015, over 900,000 copies of the game had been sold", crossplatform - Wikipedia
>Owners: 406,441 ± 16,031
Dragon Age: Inquisition
>"I can't really give any figures of course", "It's doing great", "a significant percentage of sales of DAI are digital and not tracked" - Jarrett Lee, Bioware employee
Battlefield: Hardline
>"very happy with the sales", "can't disclose the numbers", "80% sales are consoles" - Andrew Wilson, Electronic Arts CEO
Batman: Arkham Knight
>Is it even up for sale anymore?
Mad Max
>No sales numbers.
>Owners: 762,969 ± 21,952
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
>"By the end of December 2015 [...] 6 million copies", PC copies account for 1% of sales - Wikipedia
>Owners: 930,619 ± 24,237
FIFA 16
>"2.66 million units", crossplatform - GamesIndustry.biz
Anno 2205
>No sales numbers.
>Owners: 62,019 ± 6,265
Star Wars Battlefront
>"The company shipped 13 million copies by the start of 2016" - Wikipedia
>PC online player base 14% - Polygon
Just Cause 3
>"a solid start" - Squenix
>Owners: 575,585 ± 19,072
Rise of the Tomb Raider
>"By the end of 2015, the game had sold over 1 million copies" - Wikipedia
>Owners: 722,839 ± 21,368
Unravel
>Heh.
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
>Heh.
Far Cry Primal
>"It sells great" - Ubisoft
>Owners: 152,892 ± 9,836
Hitman
>"We're confident" - Squenix
>Owners: 197,168 ± 11,169
Need for Speed
>No sales numbers.
DOOM
>Owners: 434,632 ± 16,577
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>>338474554
Here's a tip. Don't seed.
>>338474554
threaten to switch ISPs
if you can't do that, get in on some private trackers
>>338474890
Don't worry its coming. Nothing is uncrackable. They said that about Arkham SJW Age, and a month later the crack was released. It took about a month but the publishers still went "AHA! It took you a month. WE WON!"
>>338493535
This guy gets it.
Newtype -> untapped -> effects the minority -> we are the bad guys
Human beings.
Feels good to be a demon.
>>338493535
> denuvo will be the last nail into the coffin of pcuck gayming
Finally
There. You can stop arguing now.
>denuvo thread
I love these threads and I always open them to see the pirate butthurt
>retards think I'll buy games full price when I can't confirm their quality or if they'll run well on my system
>in a time where absolute crap (gameplay and technically) AAA titles are incredibly common
I don't need to pirate, but I need to see if I like the game and if it runs well. If I can't do that, I won't buy the title because there are enough games around to have alternatives forever, as simple as that.
>>338493535
>people buy when they already have it downloaded for free
This is a fucking stupid meme.
>>338493481
People who buy bad games and support bad developers are causing more damage and contributing even less to the process of not voting witht their dollars
It's the modern consumer's only check on shitty developers and localization teams. You don't even need to do it, just the threat of piracy is enough.
>>338492834
I have a good job and more than enough money to afford games I want to play. My animosity towards DRM remains the same.
We need to take power away from ISPs. Is there any way for a person to connect to the internet without a service provider and without launching their own personal satellite?
>>338494215
>Not launching your own satellite
>Being this poor
>>338475497
word up man, 9 times outta ten the guy shouting "get a job" doesn't have a job. working costs money, living costs money, having a job does not mean you have money
>>338494054
Why wouldn't you? You get access to legit multiplayer (if applicable) and support games that you enjoy, thereby encouraging more games like that to be made.
All the crying and bitching on the internet are like pissing in the ocean, nobody gives a fuck. The one thing you can count on any company caring about is their income.
>>338494418
Pirating a game insist that you had no interest in the multiplayer to begin with, because there's no way you can test the multiplayer without giving them money. Thus, no one pirates a game for the multiplayer.
>>338494373
I got a job and i can't play vidya anymore. This sucks.
>>338494215
The ability to share information should be a human right, it should be illegal to monopolize on mediums of communication and should be considered tyranny to threaten people with exclusion for violating your arbitrary rules. What does anon even do anymore?
>>338494725
all pirating a game means is that I don't want to spend $65 on something until I've played it and know I enjoy it. If i like a game I'll save for it and add it to my collection and enjoy the multiplayer. If it's shit then I was tactful enough to avoid funding a shit developer.
>>338493535
that's basically all useless data
maybe if you had a parallel universe machine and you could compare in a universe where denuvo didnt exist it would be useful
>>338494725
You can test the gameplay though, you can also tell if the game runs well on your system or if it's broken shit.
>>338495005
Or maybe just compare with other AAA games that sell nicely?
Let's pick Spec Ops: The Line as just one example: 1.3m mil confirmed sales on Steam.
There clearly is a trend, you only need not to be blind to see it.
>>338493535
topkek, they all sell like shit even though it uses denuvo
>>338495283
except you cant compare like that because spec ops has been released for multiple years and was in many steam sales
>>338495427
>I don't have money to buy these games
>b-but who cares they are shit!
>>338494996
>>338495201
>"I was going to buy it, but during my test I couldn't stop playing. Game is incredible!"
Nonexistent, right? RIGHT?
>>338484650
That me laugh ANON
Lol gotta pay for it and u screenshooted everything ROFLLMAOXDD
ADD ME ON FACEBOOK
>>338495527
>denuvocucks confirmed for illiterate
>>338495496
Yet Spec Ops was a significantly smaller budget game, and it sold way more than all those AAAs.
Still, stay blind if you will. Denuvo protected AAAs have the shittiest sales of all, and that's a fact.
>>338495527
>teacher! anon doesn't pay for his games!
>>338493946
Here's how piracy actually works
There's no such thing as a lost sale, just a sale you haven't made.
>>338494054
I bought Stellaris after pirating the Codex release. You can suck my dick
>>338495948
i believe that too but we're trying to do science here
>>338495527
did you think stuttering greentext would change what he said?
>>338495616
This is the last game I pirated in order to try. I went through the tutorial where you play as Savan, then bought it because it ran wonderfully and the gameplay was fun. No regrets, amazing game.
I wanted to try RotTR and DOOM. About RotTR I see a lot of conflicting opinions and it seems to run poorly on systems similar to mine, so I'm simply not buying it. I tried the DOOM (MP-only) beta and not only was the game shit, it also didn't use both my GPUs. Supposedly the campaign is great, but my only experience with the game was shit and I cannot try the full, supposedly amazing, version, so I'm not buying it.
I tried the Overwatch beta though, that was fun and I pre-ordered a physical copy.
>>338495616
You're the one arguing that buying a game that was pirated is just a meme and nonexsistent.
>"I was going to buy it, but during my test I stopped playing. Game is boring and not worth the money"
Nonexistent, right? RIGHT?
>>338474554
VIRTUAL
PRIVATE
NETWORK
>>338496127
If you want to go by a college/university ideology of advertising, business, and sales: sure.
The reality, however, is if someone has the money and means to purchase a game, but doesn't simply because they can get it for free, the assumption is that they would have bought the game had the opportunity to pirate it not exist; thus, resulting in the loss of a sale.
Case closed.
>>338493976
meanwhile every denuvo thread full of butthurt shills and antipirates making absolute fools out of themselves exposing their own idiocy
>>338474554
Fuck, I don't know how you americucks do it. It's somehow worse than Looney Land.
>>338496627
Found the butthurt piratekek.
How's Denuvo stock btw ?
i want to invest to Denuvo till one denuvo game is cracked
>>338496527
>The assumption is that they would have bought the game had the opportunity to pirate it not exist; thus, resulting in the loss of a sale.
That's not reality though. Still just an assumption.
There is no such thing as a lost sale. You cannot claim loss on something that is almost entirely speculative.
You can bitch all you want about only being able to sell a game in China for $15 instead of $50-$100 (cry me a river, by the way), or you can shut the fuck up and actually deal with the market situations. It’s called business. Did no one go over this in those University of Phoenix Online classes from which the industry’s CEOs got their degrees?
>still can't play hitman or doom
there's no way I'm buying these without trying them first
>>338496443
THAILAND
HOOKERS
ALCOOL
IMMATURITY
LADYBOYS
ABUSE
NEUROPSYCHOPHARMACOLOGY
DICKS
Stop pirating from civilized countries guys.
>>338496742
>actually typing out kek
found the butthurt denuvocuck
>>338496965
Are you mentally challenged? This is important as I don't want to be a bigot before I call you retarded.
>>338497078
No I'm just saying that you could live in a country where the police knocks down your door to kindly request your pirated version of the latest GoT episode.
I'm not even kidding.
Bye guys
Im going to suicide.
Denuvo has causing suicide to a poorfags.
>>338497205
Smart frog poster
>>338497205
>this is what antipirate cucks actually believe
>>338493535
>Rise of the Tomb Raider
>>"By the end of 2015, the game had sold over 1 million copies" - Wikipedia
>>Owners: 722,839 ± 21,368
The most PC owners got their copy for free with a new gtx.
>>338497205
This is the first time I've seen a frogposter make a good decision. Bravo!
>>338496527
By this logic, demos are a cause of lost sales since people who have the money and means to purchase a game, but doesn't simply because they tried a sample for free and didn't end up buying it. Costing you those precious sales.
That's the kind of mental gymnastics you're using to defend an industry that could not give a single fuck about you beyond your wallet. Actively condemning pirating is like being a crab in a bucket, trying to pull the other crabs down with you.
>>338497343
Guarentee if RoTR was piratable you wouldn't be using that argument.
>>338496913
Isn't the first mission free, though? Regardless, Hitman for sure won't be pirated before it's complete: what their episodic model is doing, besides scaring away customers, is guaranteeing that even if a hole were found they'd be able to patch it in the next update.
>>338489849
>400k sales for a triple AAA title is a flop.
400k on PC in 2016 isn't a flop.
>>338497464
we wouldnt be talking about it either now would we
that's a stupid thing to say anon and you should feel bad
>>338493375
do....do you actually think they're doing this for the consumer's well being?
how young are you?
>>338497536
It is for a AAA title like Tomb Raider
If we were talking about an indie title then it would be a different story. For reference Undertale sold over a million copies
>>338493535
literally played every single game with a bypass
All game mediocore at best. Spend money total 0$.
feels good not be a nigger with limits
>people can easily copy what you sell
>keep selling and bitch when people copy it
That's how you know publishers are retards. They have dozens of ways to make their copies more worthwhile, but no they won't, let's just keep doing the same thing over and over expecting things to change.
>>338497536
I have no idea how the industry works , but im assuming not all the AAA games cost the same , and 400k might be a flop for some titles and not for others.
>>338497536
>in 2016
What changed really? Seems to me people are still willing to buy games, it's just they can't pirate them beforehand.
Just look at Dark Souls 3, it sold more than most.
>>338474412
Dog = Denuvo
Laser = Pirates
Testicles = Paying Customers
>>338497962
Development costs
>>338498027
Even if that was true, what does this change for sales?
>>338497609
>we wouldnt be talking about it either now would we
that's a stupid thing to say anon and you should feel bad
we absolutely would be talking about it if RoTB only sold less half than expected and was pirated. I guarentee you wouldn't be using the free w/ graphics card argument, because these excuses are somehow only valid when Denuvo is accused of causing lost sales instead of piracy.
>>338497856
>I have no idea how the industry works
Protip: the term AAA is generally associated with high costs
400k sales for an AAA is a flop on a platform where games regulary sell +1m copies
>>338497372
This amount of actual mental gymnastics and projection, holy shit.
>>338497536
What, it is. Games cost a lot more to make now and the PC audience has grown tremendously over the past 7 years, there are more than 13 Million concurrent Steam users and only 400K bought a game from a highly praised franchise that has been around for 2 decades. Which then brings me to the next point, and that point is that the core audience on PC is very small.
>>338498070
It means more games need to be sold to be considered a financial success (if the dev costs are higher)
>>338498218
You don't know what the word projection means. The "lost sales" argument is mental gymnastics.
>>338498218
Are you trolling or just really, really stupid?
>>338498206
>400k sales for an AAA is a flop on a platform where games regulary sell +1m copies
And who's to blame?
>>338498246
Oh, but that doesn't change the fact that Denuvo games sell like shit.
>>338498882
On the other hand it's impossible to prove that it's Denuvo's fault.
>>338498792
obviously its' entitled pcucks who aren't buying our highly marketed games when we put drm in them. they should stop being poorfags and get a better job so we can put in more drm and make it even harder to buy
>All this nonsense post
>Doesnt know that Gaming is already shit since 2009
>Tfw i enjoy games from 2009 & backwards
Mark my words, Video games gonna is crash in 2018
And never gonna recover,
Video games already dying in 2009
>>338499179
But it proves that piracy doesn't drastically reduce sales like some might believe
http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-gaming-has-around-a-93-95-per-cent-piracy-rate-claims-ubisoft-ceo/
>>338499179
But somehow possible to prove it's piracy's fault when games sell just as poorly.
>>338498219
You can't bitch about the "core audience" when you make a game that does shit the "core audience" dislikes. They had a beta that shat on the core audience and was wildly disliked, then there's no demo of the campaign. Of course the core audience isn't going to buy DOOM when all they've seen of the game is a dickslap in the face.
Better games with no DRM and no MP have sold way more than DOOM.
>>338491626
>>338493279
>Spending $60.00 = Being rich
Seriously, how poor are you? You can't make this stuff up. I'm just going to assume you're some kid still living with mommy and not some guy in the slums high jacking someone's slumnet with 56k dial up speeds.
>he pays for AAA triple DRM ridden titles who on purpose impact performance & shorten lifetime of ssd/hdds
>denuvo games 4/10 at best dropped after 1 week
>all denuvo games sell on launch day with a 60%+ off on resellers
>we are happy with our sales
the tears when 3DM comes back from their paid vacaction
>>338499346
The amount of projection that happens on this board is baffling.
>>338499291
Anon I'd be so happy if you were right.
But you aren't. Do you think an almost 4 billion industry is going to die? So fast?
>>338474412
No sales either.
Cant blame piracy now for bad games.
>>338499487
But there are people that are extremely upset because I can buy 60 dollar games and they can't.
>>338499675
You're just proving my point.
>>338499737
There is no projection. There is only truth.
>>338477580
wait for the warning to go away first, then get a vpn
>>338474412
Only shit games are protected :DDDD
Like multiplayer only game Battlefront.......
>>338499828
"People that are extremely upset because I can buy 60 dollar games and they can't." is not the truth. I can afford $60 games, so you are projecting.
>>338480075
yes they do you dumbass
it's a cease and disist order you faggot
>>338499675
It's the other way around, buddy. People are terribly upset that people pirate. I couldn't give less of a fuck what you do with your money.
>>338499959
>I can afford $60 games
Then you are NOT upset, nor are you their Superman.
>>338499589
Something gonna happen anon :)
I mean it ;)
>>338499675
i can buy i just dont want to
i have more than 40 games on my ps4
>>338500173
So how is it not projection again?
>>338484886
But looking at a screenshot- or indeed a clip- of an anime doesn't make you less likely to buy it. In fact, it makes you (slightly) more likely.
>>338474554
I've been receiving letters for the last decade every few years when I'm too lazy to turn on Peer Guardian. I don't know if some major company has stepped up the threats or something recently, but this is nothing new. It might depend on your ISP, but I've never had anything more than a letter which leads me to believe that more than anything else it's either a legal obligation or a scare tactic.
>>338476382
I think this might be the only person in the thread who's happy about denuvo.
>>338499179
Which was my question here: >>338497962
>What changed really?
>>338477521
>The only reason to be mad about Denuvo is because it stops you from getting the game for free. It's that simple.
What about playing legitamite backups? Denuvo doesn't work without proper activation.
If Mafia 1&2 had Denuvo fat chance you would be able to play even if you were willing to pay now.
>>338497962
>Just look at Dark Souls 3, it sold more than most.
Probably because it doesn't use Denuvo.
>PIRACY IS COST US ALL THESE SALES OY VEY IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH
>denuvo games sell only 400k
>B-but it's not denuvo's fault!
>meanwhile denuvo free games continue to sell millions including Fallout 4, Witcher 3, etc
honestly I'm loving it familia
Move here, Shillers
>>338485045
>>338485045
>>338485045
>>338478789
clearly underage
Eatern countries especially russia doesn't give a fuck about US laws
>my entire household combined torrents terabytes of goodies each year
>no one uses a vpn
>we never get a single letter
>mfw based fios
>>338500097
No. They are upset over anti-piracy assets being implemented into games that may have planned to pirate. I'm not sure how they would even win this argument.
>>338500205
>I buy the games I like/want
Then why are you even replying? Are you also a Superman? Just wanted to show your big cock off, big boy?
>>338500998
go fuck yourself nigger
fucking saged
>>338489849
Doom is a rather niche title. Of course it won't sell as many units as call of booty #32. I'm sure they've accounted for it and done projections and all the other shit accountants are paid to do.
TR2014 started slower than expected but ongoing sales were sufficient to justify the sequel.
>And look at RoTTR
okay
>Rise of the Tomb Raider’s first month of PC sales have almost tripled the number of copies sold on Xbox One in the same period of time last November.
Wow, such a flop! However will they survive?? The crash is surely incoming!
>>338501093
>Then why are you even replying?
Becuase he's proving you wrong.
Also anon is right. These "anti-piracy assets" are implemented into a fraction of games people actually want to play, and the vast majority of these threads are full of people who are upset that people pirate instead of spending their money.
>>338500974
That doesn't really seem like a fair comparison. The hype and anticipation for those games were massive and it seems like you're implying that if they had used better copyright protection they wouldn't have sold as many.
Generally that only happens with very annoying and intrusive DRM.
>>338501118
>Doom is a rather niche title
>>338501374
How is it not a fair comparision?
>non Denuvo games only sells +1m
>holy shit look at all these lost sales from piracy! if it wasn't for piracy we would have sold even more millions of copies!
>Denuvo game sells less than 400k
>....
