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Leave the resolution at highest dipshit
>>338433473
is tat fallout boy 4
Not TOO bad, except forthe fence
>>338433473
so this........... is the power.................. of computer video games..........
Doom 3 patched to run on a Vooodoo 2
>>338433970
That's not lowest.
>>338434250
It's the lowest everything but the resolution. I don't think you can really see anything if it's a 640x480 resolution picture
>>338433834
>lowest settings
>B-but not the resolution!!
END YOUR FUCKING LIFE DIPSHIT
>>338433473
>The idiots who also put the game at the lowest res
someone post the skyrim lizard. He's the fucking cutest
>>338434530
idiot you can't see the differences if the resolution is tiny
>>338434324
Please...176
>>338434663
end life
dipshit
>>338434530
You can force a resolution the size of a postage stamp
But these threads are about appreciating shittiness, not making pictures for ants
>>338434705
cant see differences
if tiny
>>338434770
>>338434705
>>338434663
It's really like I'm on XBL. Fuck off kids.
>>338434897
no difference to be seen when tiny
>>338434701
don't mind the captcha fail -.-
>>338434530
>comparing graphics settings of images without the same res
>>338433473
Looks like a screenshot from the canceled psp version. Hmm...
>>338435324
>Hmm...
Are you implying that they're passing off a PSP screenshot as a PC/Console screenshot? Because OP didn't go to the trouble of fucking with the aspect ratio just to mildly bamboozle you.
ultra low vs ultra
With some config fiddling
>>338436223
Tell me your ways.
Pick up that pixel
>>338434230
>No, John, you are the demons
>>338436223
post moar tf2 n64
>>338436638This actually looks better.
>>338436446
http://clugu.com/tf2mate/
Mess with this a bit and you can get pretty close to that screenshot.
>>338436960
I think it looks better on low, actually. I can actually fucking see.
>>338433473
It still looks absolutely stunning, just like I remember it being the first time I played it. Truly a masterpiece.
>>338436638
It looks like Jedi Knight without an accelerator.
I love that the textures actually look like Playstation 1
>>338434324
I actually kind of like that.
>>338434454
We need to go lower
>>338437974
Looks like some art house shit. Looks like I could play it on my HP Mini 1000, honestly.
>>338438083
Carmack is a fucking god.
>>338437660
I fucking love Jedi Knight.
>>338438083
top looks better, the bottom image is obnoxiously bloomy
>>338433970
>>338436638
>>338437974
I-Is it possible to go even lower than this?
>>338438083
>34 fps
>>338433473
This is Dark Souls forced to play at the resolution of a PS1 game
dorf fortress
>>338438225
Best vertical level design ever.
>>338438336
Holy shit, that bottom one looks like a Jaguar or 32X game.
>>338438336
>>338437974
>Ultra low
Looks like the 3d equivalent of indie pixelshit
>>338438371
The screenshot is from some guy who managed to get Doom 3 running on a Voodoo 2 SLI system.
http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?topic_id=1462
>>338438371
thats the average most peoples pcs run on
>inb4 m-m-muh $4000 rig
>>338438475
The nostalgia makes it look better than the actual game, can you post a webm?
>>338438475
>PS1 games played at 4K
OK.
>>338438336
Shit, the bottom one is unsettling.
whats weird is that having played these old games when I was a kid, when I look at them its hard to identify what's 'missing'
they look fine even with their visible pixels and no lighting
my brain was programmed into accepting them as they are, I wonder what else I'm brainwashed into accepting
>>338438567
It's only a matter of time before the market is flooded with a glut of sub-par indie poly-shit.
>>338438913
It's happening. No man's sky is an example.
>>338438736
It does look good in motion. I didn't bother to record, unfortunately, but I'm sure I have the dsfix.ini around somewhere with the modified resolution
>>338438852
Nah, the internal resolution is PS1 level. I'm playing on a 4k monitor, so it's expanded to 4k for display purposes, and therefore my screenshot is such.
>>338438860
it looks like an ~~artistic~~ ~~ stylized~~ indie game.
>>338438852
Oh, and the internal resolution is 320x240, in case you were wondering
>>338438913
where have you been?
all the kids who grew up with it are now adults creating it
>>338438913
>>338439008
I actually liked polygon graphics before hig res 3d accelerators. It looked way better than massive, warping, blocky pixels smeared over everything.
>>338436638
I would buy the shit out of Half Life DS.
>>338439310
DS games actually had fairly good models and textures
They just happen to be impossible to see without emulation
I wish I had a picture, but my buddy had trouble running the new Mad Max game, so we set it to the lowest possible resolution in order to get it to work. The text in game was so unreadable that it looked like that text that goes across scouters in Dragon Ball Z. Completely alien.
>>338439509
That's actually really surprising, never expected that there was so much detail hidden behind the lego resolution.
>>338439509
DS and 3DS suffer from the same problem: low resolution
>>338439280
I love graphics like this because everything is so easily visible. Your imagination just fills in the gaps.
>>338437696
can you make any game look like that?
>>338439778
Only if the game supports changing back to Directx 8 i guess
>>338439718
Exactly.
>>338435039
>-.-
kys
>>338439283
boke
>>338439947
are you a girl, if not don't kiss me
>>338439778
I'm not sure. A lot of other games don't really let you peek at the insides of the game as easily.
>>338439632
PSP had a problem with it too
Only stuff like Bravely default or Legend of legacy don't go full retard with models the hardware shouldn't be handling in the first place
This is somewhat relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxOcFXcTN-o
>>338434701
that looks like fucking myst
cabin in the woods n everything
>>338438083
pfft they go higher
>>338433892
That would be a cool Easter egg idea; set the settings to the lowest and get the original game graphics, has any game done something like that?
Wow its fucking nothing
Its the lowest I could get just from the regular options
>>338440659
The closest I can think of is the Shadow Warrior reboot from 2013. There's secret areas in the game that are modeled with assets (don't know if they're the original assets, or re-created) from the original titles. Those spots are easily some of my favorite easter eggs.
>>338440960
I can't even tell which is which. It's like all those graphics options Fallout 4 has are just there as a placebo.
>>338439864
>>338440121
yea i don't think it's possible with BF2
>>338440960
fucking idiot
you forgot to post higher graphics to compare it with
>>338441282
The top one is maxed out :^)
>>338440960
>that neck
>>338440960
god damn what a terrible looking game, skyrim with enb destroys it.
Wow its even more fucking noothing, this time with more shadows :)
>>338441470
welcome to EB games
>>338435912
What game is this? Google gives me nothing
>>338442253
Looks like Saints Row 3 or 4
>>338443490filename
>>338438336
AAAAAAH LOWER
>>338438225
Jedi Knight was great, and watching speedruns makes you realize just how much the game let you do. It's fucking mad how fast you can go.
>>338438336
>fence becomes wall
>>338444514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d473wSBUG8U
>>338438336
>dat middle one
>literally PS1 graphics
How do I do this?
>>338439280
A-10 Cuba
The theme song is my shit!
>>338444737
Kek ulfrics coat looks like it's inflatable
>>338437779
Used to be big on CS 1.6 huh?
>>338445110
Believe it or not, ENB is used in that mod.
>>338444847
This is the closet that I've been able to come to that:
Besides lowering the regular graphics settings to the lowest, put these in the autoexec.cfg in the game directory
mat_showlowresimage 1
mat_fullbright 1
r_picmip
mat_bumpmap 0
mat_diffuse 1
mat_fastnobump 1
mat_fastspecular 1
mat_filterlightmaps 0
mat_filtertextures 0
mat_mipmaptextures 0
mat_parallaxmap 0
mat_picmip 10
mat_showlowresimage 1
mat_specular 0
r_dynamic 0
r_lod"8
r_maxmodeldecal 0
r_teeth 0
sv_robust_explosions 0
>>338445110
>>338445246
It even uses ambient occlusion.
>>338445259
Thank you anon
>>338438336
How do I get my game to look like the bottom one?
>>338439718
>Your imagination just fills in the gaps.
Goddamn you just said exactly why old 3D graphics are appealing and I could never find the words myself. Thank you.
>>338438083
This game was amazingly mindblowing... fuck. Doom 4 is just a fucking disappointment.
>>338438326
ARRY PORRER
>>338438083
The highest settings is using sikkmod so it doesn't count.
>>338440960
The worst part is it runs like shit too.
>>338437974
How can I make any game look like PS1 games I love this asthetic aside from the fucked sky.
>>338444127
Even the character portraits are pixelated.
QUICK
SOMEONE POST THE TF2 THREAD
WE NEED THAT IN THIS THREAD STAT
>>338446357
it doesnt really look like sikkmod it looks like one of the gazillion other graphics or shader mods for doom3
not saying it couldn't be sikkmod since everything is customizable, but its not using soft shadows which is like sikkmod's biggest and original 'selling' point
This is how skyrim was meant to be played
>>338444514
looks like shrek
>>338447357
You sure that ain't your graphics card comitting suicide?
>>338447357
>I'm in.
>No Jedi Outcast in this thread
>>338447637
No, this was just a screenshot i took of skyrim the day it released, when it was the most unoptimized piece of shit out there, now it looks just fine. See?
reminds me of Vagrant Story
>>338436223
i used to play TF2 on a PIII 800Mhz pretty much like this.
>>338447852
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES
>>338447852
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
>>338448331
>>338448078
I just love the nice scenery outside whiterun boys
>>338448539
This sure is a fancy looking gate
>>338448396
>Fort Greymoor looks completely normal
What
This thread makes me miss playing cs source before r_lod was a cheat cvar.
Anybody know why they did that?
>>338438336
half life 2: workprint edition
>>338448680
The water also looks perfectly normal
>>338448805
Same with the sky
>>338436638
Really makes me wish devs had held off on texture filtering until the 7th gen.
>>338448805
>The scenic Dirt Falls.jpg
>>338448902
and with this final screenshot my game crashed, and I was never able to replicate the same effects
>>338438567
More like the 3D equivalent of an Atari 2600 game.
>highest setting
>bloom everywhere
>reflections distracting
>ugly fucking textures making everything a fucking texture-filled mess
>overbright colors if there are any real colors beside various shades of brown
High settings is fucking ugly. I don't care if I had a goddamn supercomputer, I'd still play on lowest every single time just to get rid of that ugly goddamn shit.
>>338448979
But I was able to closely replicate it with gta v
>>338434324
Wow it looks like a decent PS2 game.
>>338448805
>>338448902
>>338448979
I've always wanted to make a game during some eldritch apocalypse and the game world looks like this since it's the only way the world ending via unknowable evil can be processed.
>>338447852
IT
JUST
WORKS
>>338433834
Theres no point in low setting if the res isn't native dumbass
>>338449342
lel
>>338449342
noice.
>>338449345
>native
its a pc there is no native resolution you can run it at whatever you want
its not like screenshots care about your monitor upscaling
>>338449572
He's referring to the monitor's native resolution
>>338447852
>Halk
>>338437831
You cheeky cunt that's YSFlight Simulator. I'd recognize that game anywhere.
can someone do this to csgo?!?!!?!?!?!?!
>>338444514
>Skyrim on Wii U
>>338445950
Are you on drugs
>>338450236
you have no idea how many hundreds of hours i sunk into that game during college courses
>>338440960
This is like one of those "spot the difference" images except this one was made to troll people.
>>338453664
i see what you did there
>>338438336
>pick up that cube
>>338438083
>highest possible setting
>it's modded to shit
At least be honest.
>>338453664
is this minecraft
>>338440960
is this what bad optimization looks like?
>>338433473
that looks pretty comfy, post more.
>>338448979
Are you honestly sure it wasn't your graphics card committing Jamunji?
>>338438336
GO EVEN LOWER
>>338437831
Heh, reminds me of Wing War.
>>338440960
the floor and ceiling textures are different
the lamps on the top are brighter
>>338436927
>and then john was a demon
>>338453981
no thats doom 3 barebones
its just real game companies didnt focus on making fluffy shooters like fear and doom 3 with bloom textures which look great on consoles.
they have to make middle of the day in a warzone shooters and to make that look realistic looked goofy back in the day, this is why you got games like crysis doom3 fear and dead rising 2 for a lesser extent
>>338438336
we need to go further
>>338453981
I want to fuck Starfire so hard that somehow human and Tamaranean DNA somehow becomes compatible and she becomes impregnated by me.
my character. played a couple hours, uninstalled, it was shit, but character creation was great
>>338454340
I've played Doom 3 dozens of times maxed on PC. The original Doom 3 did not have any blur effects on the weapons. What benefit do you get from lying about it or are you just cucking for ID software?
>>338440482
This is a modded screenshot.
>>338454515
good taste my african american friend
>>338441636
that looks like shit
>>338440198
PSP had that problem 10 years ago, 3ds has that problem now.
>>338434237
What the fuck?
>>338455113
Now give me that in binary.
>>338454907
please fucking source me right now.
>>338440960
...so the bottom is low settings, right?
>>338455163
bro how the fuck do i run ds3 without lag. i already tried gedosato and it didn't really help
my friend couldnt run wow on his laptop and he sent me this.
>>338455269
>literally posts the title page
>SAUCE? SAUCE? SAUCE?
This is why /a/ is right.
>>338455263
01111000 01111000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 01111000 01111000 01111000 00001010 01111000 01111000 01111000 00100000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 00001010 00100000 00100000 01101111 01000111 01100011 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00001010 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 01000110 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00001010 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000 01111000
>>338455269
you see that arrow in the top right of the post. Click that, then image search, then google.
>>338455561
holy shit
I used to play wow on a literal toaster and it never looked that bad
I probably should have turned down the settings, but I initially played at 7-9 fps
I got a newer computer later on and was able to get it up to 12-13 fps, the difference was like night and day
Finally I managed to make my own gaming pc and was able to play with max settings and constant 60 fps, I thought I was going to die
>>338455561
so that idiot decided to reduce texture resolution, which has virtually no impact on performance, but leave up the output resolution, which is bound by fillrate, where laptop GPUs really suck
>>338455561
might want to turn off the second screen while playing
>>338455640
These graphics are sick
>>338455640
my toaster couldn't handle that, can it go lower?
>>338455996
._....________._.___._.__._....._
>>338455483
I don't know, friendo. I barely keep 30fps on low, and Dragonslayer Armour is literally undoable for me alone because it drops into the single digits.
>>338444127
>The clouds still look nice
>>338456514
lower the resolution
>>338456605
Absolutely never.
>>338456653
then suffer. Resolution is one of the most effective means to improve performance, because the weak point with these engines is usually shader throughput.
720p is less than half the pixels of 1080p, which can double your framerate if you're entirely fillrate-bound
>>338456653
>>338456853
conversely, if you insist on driving a 1440p screen, get a GPU that can actually drive it
>>338457025
Waiting for 980ti prices to drop.
>>338444737
I'd honestly play the fuck out of that. That takes me back to the good ol days.
threads like these might be my new favorite thing
>>338435912
I honestly prefer the top one.
>>338456653
can anybody explain this to me? Why is resolution so sacred? People would voluntarily disable all lighting, cripple drawing distance and remove shadows, before dropping resolution? Do you pay attention to individual pixels while playing?
For me the pic as a whole matters. If I can get it slightly more pixelated, while retaining all the visual features, that strikes me as the far better compromise
I'm a pixelated man and a half! Don't need textures, textures are for wussies!
>>338436960
Apparently better quality = more bloom.
>>338456418
finally, something my AMD can handle
>>338458120
top one looks considerably cleaner, but I think this is one case where excessive bloom and reflections are necessary. The game tries to convey an atmosphere of downtown neon lights, a swirl of flashing colors and logos everywhere. Bottom one does that considerably better than top one
>>338458254
Or exposure, or whatever you know what I mean.
>>338458238
are there any good untextured fps games out there? Plenty racing games, some flight sims, but shooters?
>>338458213
To me shitty textures, lighting, and models are more acceptable than having the entire picture be blurry/pixelated.
Having games look sharp is really important to me
>>338456591
it looks like the skybox texture is unaffected
>>338458238
but do you play dwarf fortresswith no graphics?
>>338439509
wow what game?
>>338436223
Fuck, this just reminds me of playing TF2 back in the day at sub-30 FPS on my toaster.
>>338458464
>Having games look sharp is really important to me
why? I honestly don't get it. What's the benefit? You can see a flat brickwall perfectly crisp, I see a bump mapped torch-lit brickwall with slightly lower resolution. Hell, I could probably identify the brickwall as such, because of its surface. Why should I care that the mortar on it is 3 pixels thick, instead of 4? What do I gain from crispness that makes up for the severe loss in definition?
>>338435912
All that fucking bloom
>>338439947
He is a CoD kiddie.
>>338445259
>r_picmip
You didn't assign a value. Try a really high number for this one, if it's anything like Quake your wall textures will turn into soup.
>>338458425
You might try Id's first FPS, Hovertank 3D. I haven't played it myself but look at this untextured action!
>>338458668
Dude, chill. I was just explaining why I lower that stuff first. It's entirely subjective.
>>338459232
but it's using billboards for enemies
>>338459239
sure it's subjective, I just have a really hard time getting the motivation, and it's confusing me
>>338455784
Oh fug off.
Your average WoW player isn't going to know that.
>>338439509
why do i feel like ive read this before
>>338447887
>414 fps
always gets me
>>338433970
How does Half Life 2 still manage to look good today?
>>338450236
Except you're wrong, because its Flanker 1
>>338459846
baked in lighting, well made textures
>>338447887
>if you were from where I was from, you'd be fuckin' dead
>>338440960
Even after several months it still runs like shit with unremovable mouse acceleration.
>>338459719
you need to run Source games at double your monitor's referesh rate.
So with 144hz monitors you actually want at least 288fps at all times.
>>338454912
Well at least it doesn't look like melted plastic.
>>338459986
actually kinda looks like Dark Forces
>>338459393
>billboards
Is your translator broken?
>>338433473
b..but i always play at the lowest settings...
>>338460150
>need to
Why? Is it a timing thing like the Quake 3 engines' magic numbers (like 125fps)?
>>338460453
>Billboard, a 3D computer graphics sprite that is always facing the viewer
Wolf3D, Doom, Duke3D, etc, they all use billboards for everything that's not walls or floor.
Quake uses polygonal 3D objects for them
>>338445950
Nice try faggot
>>338460524
so think of it as a screenshots thread and post away
>>338460524
such is life as a toaster
>>338460524
I played skyrim at 480p 20fps on my single core laptop, got at least 50 hours in it
>>338460793
you dont understand..thi-this is what im used to
>>338460627
Its just source engine being shit, you don't "need" to but at 144fps a source game will not look smooth compared to 144fps on another engine. You need double your monitor's referesh rate to make the game not have any micro frame stuttering and seem truely smooth. As well as this, having higher fps decreases input lag.
Luckily, its easy with modern builds to get extremely high fps in source games.
averages about 50-60 fps at 1440p with my 7850.
>>338455163
Why is the T-1000 disguised as a fountain?
Just playing through Far Cry 2 again, low settings....
Someone post WoW screenshots maxed vs lowest please. I haven't played in a long time.
>>338440659
Just buy Doom off steam. They ONLY sell original graphics.
You have to get third party software just to make the game playable.
>>338461179
...and highest
>>338461170
I wanted to buy Doom but I'm scared my weak ass 6870 will explode as soon as I try to turn it on.
>>338461079
I understand just fine. I'm playing on 8 year old hardware. It just doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother you.
I'm usually in these threads to see what games actually change around internally when they try to offer better performance. Not like I can play these games, or want to. It's just a technical interest
>>338461170
That doesn't look like it's being rendered at 1440p.
>>338461179
>again
>he was able to actually play far cry 2 without getting bored 5 minutes in
>>338438475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAdZXH0KEmQ
>>338461331
should be fine at 720p, also it's a 40gb download, and you can always return it if it doesn't run well
but buy your ass polaris 10 or an AM4 APU when they come out soon
>>338461372
resolution scaling at 50%, it's so the menus don't look like ass running it at 720p
>>338461372
duh?
>>338461416
Amazing that /v/ has the talent of taking something completely irrelevant and shitposts a statement about it.
>tfw my CPU is almost 10 years old yet it's still holding it's shit together by playing pretty much any modern game at low, some times even medium.
The Q6600 really is a golden chip.
>>338461541
how are games supposed to saturate your CPU anyway? Most of the progress in games is in torturing the GPU
>>338461461
>>338461467
Right, then you should've said 50-60 fps at 720p.
>>338461618
GPU driver overhead mostly
>>338461346
oh well it doesnt exactly "bother" me its just kinda..underwhelming
>>338461535
because it gets him a (you) so how about you just ignore it retard
>>338461742
Don't reply to me ever again
>>338439280
I used to love the fuck out of this game and Red baron, holy shit.
Also A TAXIWAY IS NOT A RUNWAY
>>338461735
You could play games that fit the capabilities of your machine. You could change your machine to fit modern games. There are options. I picked up the first option myself
>>338461829
Not him, but why?
>>338461278
Far Drive 2 looked pretty great for a game that came out in what, 06?
>>338458238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIdiHh6mW58
>>338461618
My GPU really is the biggest bottleneck, but it's still pretty impressive how powerful the Q6600 is, and I'm not even overclocking it
>>338461641
But it looks better at 1440p scaled vs 720p standard, especially text is much sharper
>>338456605
sadly, you can't drop it below 800x600
>>338461987
I'm just saying, in my experience games don't saturate CPUs, unless they're dealing with a lot of complex physics. Any decade old CPU could hold up pretty fine if you play the right genres
>>338461918
>Far Drive 2
Kek, and it came out in 2008 but yeah you're right it still looks pretty nice. The fire propagation was really nice and it's a shame they dropped it in later games.
>>338461925
>tfw you can even emulate doom on this little piece of hardware
What device can't run doom these days?
>>338462068
that anon is playing 2560x1440. Even going down to 1920x1080 would be about half the pixels, 1280x720 would be exactly a quarter of the pixels, and clean bilinear filtering with no loss. 800x600 would be overkill, at least if the machine manages to not die at native resolution
>>338444127
>>338444224
I want to play this shit more than with real graphics.
>>338462015
You're not rendering at 1440p, so a benchmark of '50-60 fps at 1440p' is misleading/wrong.
>>338462218
you can not emulate doom on this machine. You can, however, write a raycaster engine for it, and give it doom-like textures/sprites
>>338462102
You're right on that count I'd say. The only games that rely on CPU power more than GPU would be emulation or things like Minecraft, where a lot of processing is done on the fly that isn't related to drawing junk on the screen.
Was just playing it. This is graphics atmax
>>338462232
>2560x1440
holy shit
>>338461987
Ah, I had a Q6600 years ago.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2125877/tape-mod-bsel-mod-intel-q6600.html
That actually works if you have a mobo that won't allow you to overclock. I never had any stability problems or overheating issues with a stock cooler so I'd recommend it if you're not a pussy.
I was too poor to actually upgrade at the time.
>>338462218
anything with processor chip can run it, even if there's no screen to actually see what you're doing
>>338461896
you're right i guess it's time i do something about it
thanks man
>>338462321
physics, really. Perfect way to murder a CPU. Especially clothes and particle physics, but also simulation-level driving physics. Emulation certainly works too, good point.
>>338438475
This is amazing
>>338462321
RTS also goes heavy on CPU due to computer AI, especially shit like total war where it has to keep track of thousands of units at once.
>>338462218
>emulate
You never need to emulate doom, just port it.
https://youtu.be/FbmnePiXycw?t=19
>>338462304
I'm rendering text at 1440p :^)I actually forgot about the scaling part of it
>>338462218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8RAbWs1yo
>>338462445
good example as well, yeah. AI is right up there as CPU killer
>>338462445
it doesn't help that CA don't know how to into optimization for the Total War series.
>>338462503
how do you suggest to optimize such an AI? What have you found in the game that smells of lack of optimization?
>>338459846
Simple city environments are extremely easy to replicate. Its when the game goes into natural environments things fall apart.
>>338438336
I really like the middle one
>>338436927
I kekked
>>338459846
Art direction is more important than polygons and high res texture when it comes to aging.
>>338462609
While I can't comment on Empire and onwards, since I never played them, mods were released that fixed numerous issues with the AI for Rome 1 and Medieval 2, some of the more important fixes stopped loops in the AI scripts which just ate processing power for no discernible reason.
>>338434701
Those aren't the lowest graphics though, that's the shitty 360/PS3 backwards port/demake that I have no idea why it was released.
>>338462445
I wouldn't think that would be all that different from a standard RTS as far as AI goes. The units are only controllable in blocks of about one hundred or so most of the time and there's virtually no autonomy for each of the individual soldiers. I wouldn't think there was a lot of ai calculations between what are essentially just set piece fights between the blocks of units.
>>338462639
It's part of good game design to pick environments that don't expose the weakness of your engine. Lots of devs forget that
>>338462801
The blocks are just the command/input structure. The units still have individual locations on the screen, they die individual, they have direct unit-to-unit interactions. All these need to be done by the AI. Even if it's a dumb-as-bread AI per unit (while being smarter as a block), it's still hundreds of these dumb units, and that adds up
>>338462125
Far Cry 3 and 4 still have it, it's just the burnt plants don't look fucking burnt.
>>338462905
I didn't know serious sam was on the n64
>>338462801
Yeah, but each individual unit has it's own pathfinding and collision being calculated in real time.
Heck, just see the sims 3. Due to how broken the code is, a pathfinding sometimes bug out and cause massive memory leaks
>>338462905
>there's actually more game info in the lowest settings hud
neat
directx 8 mode with low res pack
>>338433473
>>338463013
Bullshit
>>338463048
what extra info?
>>338462929
Well that just sounds like poor optimization. It shouldn't be difficult for your pc to keep track of a few variables per individual soldier even if there are a couple thousand.
Could you guys do it with some ps1-ps2 game?
>>338463048
Fun fact: That's actually SS1:TSE's original hud. It just swaps the two out.
>>338463153
>Console games
>Graphics settings
>>338463140
keeping track of them is not a problem, updating them is. Think of these soldiers as "more complex particles". Particle engines with a couple thousand particles are already quite stressful
>>338463031
The newer games don't have personal collision, which would be considerable less resource intensive than the current system in which every unit constantly runs checks to make sure it and another unit aren't occupying the same space as opposed to making them both physical things that occupy a space that is impassable to other units normally
Both methods end up with similar results but one is more resource intensive than the other.
>>338462820
Like FromSoft in DS1.
I have a lot of good memories of Darkroot, but god damn did it look and run like shit.
>>338436446
The flamethrower is a custom model.
Low settings Fallout 4
>>338463087
Its like future Runescape
High settings Fallout 4
>>338463226
In emulator of course.
Low settings Battlefront.
Aside from textures, doesn't look too different from what I remember. Maybe I'll try a different map.
>>338463428
>>338463502
I hate games that scale like garbage.
>>338463565
Looks pretty sparse to me.
>>338463565
God dammit
>>338463265
Well that's graphical and doesn't really have as much do with the ai. I'd completely agree that a Total War game can be very stressful on the gpu as long as the cpu isn't already bottlenecking.
>>338463087
Planetside looks so good at max settings that it's a shame people play it at minimum.
>>338463570
how is it scaling badly? Seems like it has an actual impact on the used resources
>>338463428
>>338463502
What the fuck, low settings has better shadows than high
There we go, now it looks like shit.
If you can barely tell the difference between low and high, you've got shit devs
>>338463013
Why is there heavy ghosting on the high settings?
>>338463664
>meme resolution
>>338463664
Because the game runs like a fat person at max.
>>338463640
>Well that's graphical and doesn't really have as much do with the ai
We're probably thinking different things when we mean AI. I'm not talking about a decision making AI, that's equivalent to a thinking person. The AI we're talking about at this level is little more than "follow path, attack other unit". Because that's about all you can do in the time you're given, to the number of units you have to deal with. The decision making happens on a block level, it's the reasonable thing to do. But the individual units still need to be moved. That's work the game can not skip. I doubt the units are moved through a shader program. I'd expect that to be all CPU
>>338463715
better shadows? where?
Not my image, but rainbow 6 siege.
Can't even see the walkers.
>>338463754
both screenshots are in motion, only high has motion blur
where is dead space min settings, that shit changes it completely
>>338458557
You pretty much have to if you want to play new versions regularly.
>>338463764
PS2 is CPU bound and runs like complete shit on AMD processors which is probably why it gets so much flak. It used to be a lot worse.
>>338463724
if you think that's minor changes you might need to get your eyes checked. That said, modern engines tend to keep polygon count and texture resolution constant. The changes are in the shaders. The difference is pretty harsh in terms of consumed resources and framerate, but often marginal in terms of visual changes. Does that make them shit devs? Should they cut textures and polygons just to satisfy a demand for visual change, when it has no impact on performance?
>>338463923
is this a portal to the 80s?
>>338463945
You are supposed to use the force
>>338458238
That looks like my graphics when I used to play Action Q2 on my 56k modem.
>>338464014
>AMD
Well shit might redownload then.Does Briggs still have players?
>>338464069
>not comparing it with classic runescape
>>338464071
yes
I want my games to look like dogshit on low so goys will buy new hardware:^)
>>338464014
>friendly blue
>meme resolution
>not even posting on topic
No wonder everyone in the general fucking laughs at you
>>338463945
>Can't even see the walkers.
That's a big no-no for low quality settings. Sometimes it's inevitable that settings affect gameplay, but in general it should be avoided
>>338463817
It's just hard for me to imagine that those basic instructions put much load on the cpu. I can see updating and communicating positions to the gpu as stressful, but that is only indirectly related to the ai.
>>338461416
>having shit taste
>>338436019
Tfw everyone happy and clapping on low, ultra everyone is mad and want to get out of the rain
I'd prefer low for the atmosphere tbqh
>>338463923
what the fuck is going on in this image?
>>338464481
We're still not quite sure, his GPU temps were fine after the fact, but he played through the entire round like that (until he crashed.)
Best we could figure out was it was just a really weird glitch..
>>338464273
>It's just hard for me to imagine that those basic instructions put much load on the cpu
individually they don't. A couple thousand times, they do. It's why pathfinding AI in RTSes is so retarded, why SimCity 5 has such small cities, etc.
>I can see updating and communicating positions to the gpu as stressful
oddly enough, not really. The GPU doesn't care if it's unit locations or other meshes. The data sits in memory and is just piped to the VRAM for the GPU to pick up and handle. There's very little actual "work" involved in that. It's a reason why GPUs have such fast memory interfaces, because of the sheer volume of data, but that's about it
If collision meshes were lowered as well this game would run so much better.
>>338455695
nice spoonfeeding how about you wipe his ass and change his diaper while you are at it
>>338464014
It's the only game where my bottleneck is the CPU and not the shit GPU, and it's a fucking i7
>>338464593
oh yeah, city builders are terrible with that shit. Traffic simulation consumes absurd amounts of processing power when not well optimized.
>>338464697
can't do that, that would affect gameplay
>>338464770
most of the time traffic simulation is statistical for that reason. SC5 tried to go a different route, with a more agent based approach, but it meant severely scaling back the ... scale
>>338434230
Thats actually impressive that the game will run at all.
>>338464952
Well, voodoos were god tier GPUs for their times.
>>338456418
what is this morse code?
>>338464593
>oddly enough, not really. The GPU doesn't care if it's unit locations or other meshes
I meant more for the CPU. I've been playing Planetary Annihilation recently which uses a very simplistic artstyle to try to take the load off the GPU, but with enough units, which is usually a few thousand, it doesn't really matter whether you're moving these units at all or not. Eventually my CPU hits 100% and the FPS tanks. I'm using an older CPU(2500k) with a newer GPU(970) so that's why I made the observation in the first place.
>>338436019
Those cardboard cutout spectators on low.
I've been playing the FFX HD remaster on steam and it was funny seeing cardboard characters in the background of a few scenes. I never noticed it on PS2 because they were too blurry to notice.
>>338436223
>TF2 minecraft edition
>>338436223
Is there any game where the low settings is just hit boxes and collision boxes?
>>338433970
This is probably close to Half Life 2 on the original xbox, even then it had framerate drops. The fact it ran on that console at all was impressive.
>>338465124
good chance what's killing your fps is that the game needs to update more units (maintaining the position IS an update, the CPU needs to handle that unit, if only to figure out that nothing changes). Good engines reduce update rate for units not on screen.
>>338465306
You laugh now, but this is literally why PC is superior. The ability to mod shit and lower a game to your specs so you can run it.
>>338465462
Graphically there aren't many areas in HL2 that are very demanding just because it's basically a corridor shooter without many areas upping the draw distance. The physics calculations in that game could've made the Xbox shit itself, but usually it was just shoot saw or barrel with phys gun and maybe a ragdoll and a couple of things go flying.
>>338465376
never. Collision primitives are not drawn
>>338460724
So, a regular sprite in every way. Why come up with a silly term like 'billboard' when it has the exact same definition as the normally used term 'sprite'?
>>338442709
goddamn i heard the ps2 version was gutted but sheeeeeeeeeeeit
>>338463923
i thought this was geometry wars for a good 10 seconds
>tfw toaster
this is my world
>>338462125
Far Drive sounds like Test Drive Unlimited set in a Far Cry universe. Ooga booga spearmen on motorcycles and a MG mounted Ferrari parked under your sweet hut, worth 2 million rocks.
>>338434237
Dos Souls
>>338448009
Is this real life?
Someone post some croteam stuff
Talos principle can go from absolutely stunning to "I can't believe it's not DS" in no time and I love that. The serious engine is pretty damn flexible and my toaster loves it almost as much as source
>>338438679
bait harder
>>338465835
sprite itself is a 2D concept. A billboard is a 3D concept with a very specific movement (they actively rotate towards the view plane or camera). Also in contrast to objects that are made of textured planes, but do not exhibit this behavior. For example the grass and tree foliage on this screenshot, are textured planes, but not billboards
>>338462218
Still waiting for the TempleOS port.
>>338466146
Or is this just fantasy?
>>338462483
That is incredible.
>>338465835
just in case, I did not "come up" with this name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_%28computer_graphics%29#Synonyms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_%28disambiguation%29
http://www.opengl-tutorial.org/intermediate-tutorials/billboards-particles/billboards/
>>338461138
Thats interesting never knew that, like you said thankfully the source engine is optimized so well and getting FPS that high on todays hardware is easy.
>>338465710
how would modding the graphics of your game not get you VAC banned
they have no real way to tell what you did to the textures, as far as they know you replaced the spy cloak texture with a bright green flashing texture
>>338433473
Oldblivion was a pretty cool idea.
>>338433970
They might have wanted to model in the tiles.
>>338462905
Not the same game, try again.
>>338436960
She's turned into Aubrey Plaza.
why is there always that one pedantic autist who insists that resolution be set to lowest? nobody wants to see that postcard
>>338461416
>Not playing Far Cry 2 with Dylan's Far Cry 2 Mod.
Pleb
>>338464103
Yeah, Quake2 has a drawflat mode too, with software graphics. I used it myself for extra frames before I had a 3D graphics card.
>>338466292
I didn't actually mean to imply that you were the one who came up with the term, just that I didn't understand the need for what I thought was a redundant term. Now I understand a little bit better and that's cool.
>>338462483
That's amazing
>>338455561
It's funny to think back to when I used to play vanilla on my family PC and got like maybe 20 frames at all times. I didn't know any better, but it was stillfun. I miss it.
>>338436019
Man, that's one ugly game regardless of setting.
>>338466190
Do you honestly think there are more advanced rigs out there than there are pre-built ones with onboard gfx?
>>338436446
The models are Tommy Tallian's low poly TF2 crew. I'd imagine, at least.
dey's bredy kul
>>338438083
Toggling off lights and normal maps would be easy.
But replacing all the decorations with 2D decals?
That's a pretty nice gesture.
>>338438336
I'm still seing a light source and what appears to me to be 16-bit textures, so yeah, it should be possible to go a notch lower.
>>338466618
>Dylan's Far Cry 2 Mod
That's easy mode, though
http://www.moddb.com/mods/realmode
>You take as much damage as the enemy
>APR and UFLL actually fight each other
>AI can use any weapon, even 'player only' weapons like the USAS 12 and the MGL-140
>>338467156
>But replacing all the decorations with 2D decals?
They are 2D decals in Doom 3. Just using specular maps, normal maps, and on later versions, parallax maps. Pretty powerful stuff
>>338464697
what is this game?
>>338467312
>800x600
http://exhentai.org/g/524768/9dba1b011b/
Source
>>338467156
>>338467302
To give you an idea about the power of parallax mapping, see the attached picture. ALL four examples are a single flat polygon with a texture/decal. No geometry was added. This is all shader-level magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5zwj1pBR94
>No one posted FEAR
>>338467536
Is there a game that uses steep paralax right?
Every game that does it makes the texture look like water ripples
>>338465710
PC is my platform of choice you don't have to convince me anon.
>>338458563
Tales of Innocence.
>>338467679
there's no real way to use it right. The water ripples are just the nature of parallax mapping. For best effect you apply parallax mapping sparingly, just to model ridges and stuff, like done in that doom screenshot. If you need more than that, you're better off using tesselation
>>338466296
Good thing it's a shader then
>>338466296
I don't think VAC checks for modified game files (modern warfare 2 and 3 being the exception) so yeah you could modify your wall textures to be see through with no risk of a ban.
>>338467679
STALKER Call of Pripyat uses them alright. Only problem is they don't go around steep corners very well.
>>338445127
>Buy a 468
>>338462324
Looks like last Gran Turismo without photo mode.
>>338467765
Dear god, I've gotta play through JK2 like that
>>338468215
It can't go around corners because it's a texture manipulation. The polygons are still perfectly flat
i despise streamers but i would love if someone streamed with the settings marked all the way down like this
>>338436223
TF2 works on PS1?
>>338434389
>football manager
>not called boring cunt simulator
>>338434897
He repeated himself multiple times and you still dont get it? Fucking... I hope you actually have some kind of mental illness because i wont like it if youre allowed to be integrated into society. Fucking thick skulled goober
>>338466296
This was years ago. You could turn TF2 into a flat textureless game using mods that reskinned everything. It REALLY helped with FPS. Since that sv_pure shit, it's no longer possible I think. The way I understood it, the spy cloak was something different entirely that didn't rely on skins. Mods/skins, etc being a big part of TF2 custom servers so I can't imagine it's bannable unless it's engine hacking itself.
>>338447852
Thanks for the nightmare fuel.
>>338447852
>JVK1166z.jpg
>>338468628
Euro's eat that shit up.
>>338468953
>peak 1 million
hot fucking damn i never realized how popular that game really is
>>338438475
Looks like a PS2 game
>>338461170
can an R7 260x handle this game?
>>338438551
> I've never seen a Jaguar or 32X game
>>338463763
>Playing on windows mobile ultra pc
>>338454621
>character creation was great
>looks like the default guy
>>338441407
No shit retard. Learn how to appreciate intellectual humour.
>>338438475
Reminds me of Resident Evil because of the camera angle and the way the environment looks compared to the character model.
What games do you can play on this phone?
>>338464724
>helping someone figure out how to avoid being spoonfed in the future is bad
kill yourself
>>338462483
Fucking hell
>>338467602
Yes they did: >>338458172
Apologize.
>>338433473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsjXo4XHbnU
Just tried to gimp TPP for half an hour.
Failed, it still looked pretty good even with modded low settings.
Have a Peace Walker screenshot instead.
Also music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO_5R_DMCJA
>>338464724
how about you suck my dick while you're being a little bitch
>>338470112
>>338469934
if he can't do something as simple as that he is just retarded
>>338468953
>>338469058
It's basically Europe's fantasy football.
Not in form, but function, and the closest thing we've got to the phenomenon.
>>338464145
yeh famila,
>>338470114
A phone. With full blown x86 PC architecture running windows 7.
>>338446862
seconding this, would love to hear from someone who knows this shit
>>338470230
>look ma im being elitist on 4chan!
refer to my earlier instruction senpai
>>338446862
>>338470413
you can't, simple as that
>>338470468
no wonder /v/ is so shit
>>338470620
oh oh spaghetti-o
Guess I'll just google and rely on graphics annihilating mods
>>338435912
Huh, so SR3 on lowest settings looks like SR2. Interesting.
>>338470723
ah, so you were just shitposting to begin with. Knock yourself out, I guess
>>338470682
>/v/ is shit because i like to act like knowing how to source images is some sacred knowledge only to be passed down only within the bloodline
good hyperbole bro
>>338436638
Kek'd heartily
>>338470869
Not at all, I still really enjoy the aesthetic and would love some insight from people, just like the guy before, but like, how else am I supposed to react to a "you can't" comment?
>>338471004
less hostile? Whatever. Go find your mods, you got it all figured out anyway
>>338468215
Yeah but they didn't wrap their flat textures around corners properly wither it looks like. At least the parallax one has enough depth to distract you from the corner line.
>>338471061
Oh, uh...I didn't really wanna come off as being hostile, if it's any consolation, I'm sorry I came off like that
>>338438475
t. Someone whose first console was a 360
>>338470905
/v/ is shit because it's filled with retarded kids posting memes and the same shit over and over
>>338438886
Accept my balls in your mouth feggit
>>338466218
That's literally impossible.
>>338459846
every single update that was made for counterstrike, team fortress 2, whatever else shares the same engine, was retroactively applied to ALL the source games. if you REALLY want to see what half life 2 looked like at release, youd need to find the original 1.0 version. remember that lost coast mini single level they released? where you talk to the old man and fight up a cliffside? that was LITERALLY a demo level to show off reflective shit and dynamic lighting...which they added back to half life 2 itself.
>>338471502
>/v/ is shit because it has been like it has since its inception
wow i bet you thought you were smart when you thought that lmao
>>338471868
Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>338449342
Those breasts. It looks like they made them decent size and then they were all like:"We better dont anger the feminists - our "core" demographic." And made them flatter.
>>338471993
>i have no rebuttal thus i will spout a boring and tired comeback
gg scrub
>>338472114
okay meme supporter
bye
Doom 2
>>338472184
>running with your tail between your legs
seeya faggot
>>338433892
>>338472219
Doom 4 should have had a "tiny viewport" option to appeal to the old school crowd
>>338467332
early access schlock, beamng.updates slower then molasses in the matrix. but its cool. its all about cars deforming correctly, no premade damage. everything bends like it should, but dosent tear yet
outside of that its got like nothing but free roam really
>>338436223
This is how I played it on my shittop and it still lagged a bit
>>338472630
Thanks
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