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What went wrong?
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>>338370693
The bigger question:

Who cares, or ever cared, about this game?
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No one involved stopped development at an early stage.
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>>338370693
DOTA is free.
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>>338370693
overwatch exists
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4,228 Dirty Bomb
4,128 Battleborn
4,109 Empire: Total War
4,088 Farming Simulator 15
4,066 Warface
3,975 Football Manager 2014
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>>338370693
Overwatch is better
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>>338370693
because of overwatch

i will give you the argument that there are differences between them, but casualfags will just compare it immediately to overwatch. the superior game
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Gearbox wasn't shut down after robbing Sega
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>>338371001
I can't believe they didn't switch to a F2P model after OW was announced. Shit is practically F2P grinding garbage anyways.
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>>338371451
It's Gearbox's fault. They tried to pretend like they were competing with Overwatch up until Blizzard's boot was on their throat.
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>>338371585
Oh shit

Absolutely and eternally stumped
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>>338370693
>battleborn viewers on twitch: 726
>overwatch REPLAYS viewers: 2025

Its pathetic
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Right now on Twitch

Live gameplay
Battleborn
771 viewers


Just replaying old VODs
Overwatch
2,025 viewers
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They tried to charge $60 for a game where all other games in the genre are F2P.
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>>338371693
>>338371740
kek
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>>338371451
This. The games are hardly even similar.
They decided it would be a great idea to go against a game with a company cult following, far more marketing, a cheaper price, a free beta, etc. Fucking stupid marketing decision. I like Battleborn more than Overwatch (even though comparing the two is retarded) but they probably killed it deader than hell.
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>>338371771
To be fair a year ago that was exactly what everyone was claiming they wanted.
Just goes to show that nerds on the internet are full of shit
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People currently playing Overwatch: 0
People currently playing Battleborn: Not 0
Cancel your Overbotch preorders and buy the superior game.
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Pretty much everything.
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This is legitimately the ugliest game I think I have ever seen, I genuinely can't think of any game that looked worse.
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>>338371585
So sad.
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>>338370693
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>>338371967
>Stillbornfag mad that he bought the obviously shitty game
>pls buy my game so I dont have to play against bots anymore
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>>338371740
>dead on arrival
I bet they will find a way to blame misogynistic nerds for that.
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>>338372425
holy fucking shit
its that anus again
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>>338371451

Pretty much, can argue they're different all you like it won't matter to the casual audience who will be the bulk of sales. All they see is an FPS and heavily stylised characters, and at a glance Overwatch is simply the more appealing product
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>>338371585
The absolute madman didn't stand a chance.
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>>338370693
What went wrong is that not one, NOT ONE, Battleborn fan has bothered to dump a paragraph explaining why this game is good.

Even a few of my ramblings have become pasta's for the usual bait 'hurr, it's a bad game' threads.

There isn't any discussion here at all.
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>>338372425
Never thought I'd see that again.
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>>338371819
Battleborn also had an open beta, but it just let people know it was trash.
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>>338370693
It's an unattractive mess.
JUST LOOK AT THESE CHARACTER DESIGNS
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>>338371819
They're both cartoony shooters, like how battlefield and call of duty are compared to each other
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>>338371528
No, it's not. You can unlock doods in story mode
>>338371771
Just like overwatch it keeps out the poor kids and the Brazilians
>>338373217
Fuck you i have and i will again
>>338373413
Those people went on and bought the game. Hence <5min ques
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At least the merch is of high quality.
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>>338373689
hi randy
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>>338371585
Honestly, I don''t even see how they would compete with each other, whoever wrote that twitter is such a retard, they aren't even the same kind of games.
I would say battleborn is more similiar to Smite but in first person, it's pretty much a MOBA in first person, while overwatch is just an arena shooter with objectives.
tl:dr 2 completely different games and yet gearbox decided that they had to compete
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>>338373187
>>338371967
>>338371740
>>338371693
>>338371585
>>338373689
Made this in about 15 minutes using LibreDraw, specifically for threads like this.

Enjoy.
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The matchmaking in this game is total garbage.
Basically if you're not in the US you can forget about getting into a game.
20 minutes for both invasion and story quests, couldnt even start once.
FUCKING DEAD
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>>338373528
Jesus christ
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Gearbox deserves to sink for their crimes.
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>>338373989
My friend said he couldn't play it in my country because of this which is the primary reason I'm not getting it.
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>>338373762
>figure is an improvement

woof
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>>338370693
>Tries to compete with Overwatch
>Games has the mechanics of a moba
>Same exact gameplay as Borderlands
>Nothing like Overwatch

Well gee wizz, I wonder.
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>>338374172
>Same exact gameplay as Borderlands
what, no
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>>338373528
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>>338370693
>Gearbox
Not even once
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this game came out 19 days ago? since when?

>£40 for a moba

when will they realise that this is never going to happen
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>>338374247
Well no shit amigo.
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>>338374247
That's pretty amazing, since Battleborn is still obnoxious as fuck
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>>338374384
What's wrong with Gearbox? :^)
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Possibly the worst time to launch. Terrible marketing. Battleborn ads were spammed during the NBA playoffs. That's normie central.
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>>338374368
Even Blizzard's token "women of color" are better.
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>>338370693
http://battlestillborn.ytmnd.com/
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>>338374349
What, Yes.

Unfornutatley I cannot refund the game at this point but it is Borderlands. The entire concept of the game is:

>WHAT IF WE MADE A MOBA GAME, BUT ITS ACTUALLY BORDERLANDS AGAIN?
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>>338373528
>that peanut head
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>>338370693
Released at the worst time possible.
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>>338371101
pretty much this
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>>338374580
please explain, when I played the beta it didn't look like it had actual gunplay or quests or loot
unless you mean the writing, which isn't gameplay
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>>338374575
YTMND is still alive?
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>>338374534
>that UI
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>>338374608
Battleborn launching during Overwatch's open beta wasn't Memebox's choice. They tried to start something on Twitter and Blizzard went for the jugular.
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>>338371585
its almost like a joke...but they really thought they could compete
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>>338374683
I'm not talking about guns, But the entire game just feels like you're playing Borderlands.

Half of the characters just feel like Brick using his special.

The shields, the health, the loot. I was seriously hoping that Gearbox didn't make another Borderlands, but they did. It's probably all they know how to make considering how they're sticking to one engine.
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>>338374451
so many buzzwords, is this heaven?!
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>>338374368
>not sexualized
>THOSE HIPS

On what planet is thick not sexy?
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>>338374534
>>338374795
It looks like that joke picture of the gunner underwater with the achievements and fingerless glove meter.
It wasn't a parody, it was a prophecy.
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>>338374943
On a planet without niggers.
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Just took this screenshot now
i hope this game hurts gearbox a lot
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>>338370693
they went up against blizzard.
>inb4 they're nothing alike
in that case- they failed miserably in their marketing
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>>338374575
the other shitty game got a free wekend though
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battleborns alright its just

overwatch is way better... simple
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>>338374993
Sorry for me being retarded but I can't understand if , for example,
players in the last 2 weeks: 95,876 +- 7704
means that 95,876 people played total in the last 2 weeks with an average of 7704 online?
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>>338374812
Blizzard just blew some air at them and they got fucked.

Changing beta date was hardly effort for them
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better then paragon open betas next week LOL l
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Why do you people even pretend to care about battleborn
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>>338374451
Actual legit question, what did gearbox did so wrong in the last years? I haven't played a game they made after BL2, which I enjoyed back in the day, and I was aloof about the whole burch writing back then. The thing that annoyed me the most was the improper level scaling in the DLCs, plowing down enemies that are 10-15 levels lower than you was not quite enjoyable.
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>>338375220
No, its an estimate of sales, with a margin or error of plus or minus
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>>338370693
>horrible bland character designs out of an f2p game
>terrible UI design choices
>bullet sponge enemies
>grinding for characters in a 60$ game
>very likely paid DLC incoming
>matchmaking is horrible
>directly provoking and challanging Blizz/Overwatch (releasing 1st char dlc on may 24th is not a smart idea to compete with Ow)


they practically killed their own game
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>>338375334
Aliens Colonial Marines
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>>338371230
>dirty bomb has more concurrent players
lmao
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>>338374534
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>>338371585
This post perfectly explains the second problem that Battleborn had (the first being that the product is shit.) An effective marketing campaign can definitely overcome a shit product by creating a strong brand for consumers to rally behind...the problem is that Battleborn's marketing was ineffective in building a brand (in part because the art is so generic.)

Faced with this reality, the marketer does what they can to segment and target what they view as the potential audience. Because Battleborn had really shitty marketing behind it, they targeted the potential Overwatch consumers. The idea was probably grounded on looking at the quarterly window in which the game was released...because consumer only has X dollars to spend on games annually (which is flawed, gamers will almost always find a way to pay for a good experience, regardless of how crowded the release window is. It happens every holiday.)

A healthier and long term view of the product...in which you would target gamers as a whole rather than a segment of gamers would definitely have been less poisonous to the overall Battleborn brand...shitty games get some love on /v/ all the time if even one aspect is good or well done. I could imagine an alternate reality in which someone had something good to say about this game...if they hadn't poisoned the well so badly.
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>>338375410
kek
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>>338370693
>Grim dawn has almost the same players as Battleborn
This game is fucking dead.
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>>338375410
>>338375462
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>>338375334
They haven't made a good game in about 17 years.
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First person view did not fucking help. It should have been a 3rd person view. After playing Gigantic, Battleborn felt insanely inferior and Gigantic is still in heavy development. Battleborn should have been a 3rd person moba.
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>>338370885
Fucking savage.
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>>338375462
Battleborn is the most eye cancer I've seen since BF3
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>>338374368
WHO GIVES A FUCK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>338371740
>>338371230

I'm somewhat mixed. On one hand I feel bad for 2K. On the other hand I'm grateful Gearbox get eternally BTFO.
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>>338375334

>stole art design from another person to serve as a basis for borderlands and never gave credit; before it was a grey semi-realistic shooter
>misappropriated money from sega to fund their own games
>in litigation with a cripple that has a wife with lupus; if said cripple loses in court he can't afford his medical bills and his wife dies

These are the things off the top of my head.
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>>338375334

>Stole the development money from Aliens: Colonial Marines and funneled it elsewhere.
>Lied to Sega about it constantly and then tried to blame them for such a shitty game.
>Showed footage that was no way an accurate representation of the game, etc etc.

Take your pick really, oh and Randy Pitchford is a massive egotistical cunt.

How people can still support them, who knows.
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>>338375837
Holy shit that design's amazing.
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>>338376124
>in litigation with a cripple that has a wife with lupus; if said cripple loses in court he can't afford his medical bills and his wife dies
That's related to Duke 3D right? I have no idea why this is an issue to begin with, since 3D Realms (or whatever's left of them these days) still has the rights to everything Duke related pre-DNF, and Gearbox only has everything DNF and future projects.

It was in the contract Randy you lying shitbag
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>>338375837
The art direction of Gigantic is barely a step up from Battleborn though and it'll keep people from playing it just the same.
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>>338374247
>>338374368
This fucking virtue signalling makes me sick
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>>338376776

The high skill ceiling will keep people away anyways. Gigantic isn't for shitters. Also I love the art design.
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>>338376776
BattleBorn lost because it didn't spark interest. Last thing people want now is a MOBA. The class based shooter thing, Overwatch does it better and the one major thing. People give overwatch free publicity, look at all the fucking cosplayers and people turning out fan art. Something click with people to Overwatch while Battleborn just looked painfully generic .
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>>338376967
>Something click with people to Overwatch while Battleborn just looked painfully generic .

non-repulsive character design
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>>338374575
>ytmnd
>In 2016
How?
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>>338376967
Battleborn characters are overdesigned mess. They look like things 13 year old would do, thinking it's look cool.
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>>338373528
This tbqh

If Battleborne would have only waifu tier characters, it would be more hyped than Overshill.
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>>338376084
>I feel bad for 2K
Why?
Looks what they did to mafia as well.
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>>338370693
They released it around the time Overwatch came out, and so a lot of sheeple faggots decided to shit on it out of an incredibly misguided sense of brand loyalty.

Battleborn just released in a perfect storm that would fuck it up as much as possible.
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>>338375334
Noting from a product standpoint is so offensive. Sure their games are kinda shit, but lots of games are kinda shit. The problem is that their marketing is so fucking awful. Just way beyond anything the rest of the industry does in terms of being awful.
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Show me the battleborn cosplayers having twitter fights. Show me the high quality porn. Battleborn is dead. RIP. That is what you get for being hacks.
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>>338377217
Or the game is shit.
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>>338375013
That hair tho
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>>338377217
You know Blizzard extended the Beta a day to fuck over their release?
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>>338377274
What's your opinion on Overwatch?
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Biggest shame about Battleborn is that the gameplay is actually kinda fun but everything else about it is absolutely atrocious.
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>>338377217
Nope. Just no. This is not actual buyer behavior. Maybe for the unwashed masses of /v/, but not actual human beings.
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>>338375837

Just looked up videos, when is it coming out?
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>>338377381
Shit also.
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>>338377449
Was that webm supposed to be indicative of the gameplay? Looks like just hitting melee button over and over and literally nothing else.
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>>338371870
I mean it is what I wanted, right now the community in battleborn is probably the best community in any moba ever, it's just so tiny it's unsustainable.
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>>338377732
H-have you actually seen the community
A delusional, toxic circlejerk does not make a good community
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>>338377561

It's actually fun, but he is right, everything else is just wrong. Art design, UI, bad view choice, and balancing.

>>338377467
Devs said they won't release till they have a 30+ roster and have more than 10 maps completed. Will be getting a ingle open beta weekend this summer and then a fulltime open beta in the fall. Til then try and get in closed beta, supposively they are going to be more generous with keys this time.
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>>338377452
There's a reason most reviews about it go something like "This wasn't as bad as I expected."

It's because there's already a narrative about stuck in the mind of consumers that it's poor-man's Overwatch, and it won't go away.

This is stuck to Battleborn like a cancer to the point that even reviewers are basically admitting they went into the game with the preconceived notion it would be shit.

So it's really no wonder everyone is shitting on this game so hard despite not playing it.

It's nothing more than a marketing disaster, and empty headed cretins are getting swept up in the zeitgeist of it.
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>>338377796
That's the great part, the "community" doesn't actually fucking exist because there aren't even really enough people for a major circlejerk that sustains itself across multiple sites. And with what little community actually is there, it isn't nearly as bad as other ones for mobas since there are almost no 14 year olds, brs, or cykas.
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>>338377937
S-shit you're right
I think this is the best argument for playing Battleborn I've seen yet
No joke
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>>338370693
They should have never stolen money from SEGA
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>>338377305
>>338375013
JUST
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>>338374368
I hate people that want women to cover up and not be sexualized, I hate them so fucking much.

Everything should be sexualized in a video game. Men, women, young people, old people, dogs, amoebas, lamp posts. It doesn't fucking matter, you insipid cunts, it's a bunch of pixels on a screen. Man, I am so sick of hearing this shit. Like making women wear burkas is so progressive. As a gay dude, I want to keep playing and seeing strapping half naked dudes in my games. Why should straight people be denied the same luxury? Plus if they are, they'll eventually come for me and my perverted fetishes. These people are literal fascists, despotically destroying our vidya one triggering at a time.
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>>338370693
Honestly I have to believe that Blizzard employees are responsible for those negative reviews. Nobody even bothered to try this game because of the catastrophic marketing direction they took. By all accounts from people who have actually played this game(the 5 of them that exist) it is actually a really fun game and not analogous to Overwatch at all. Blizzard just had to spend a micro portion of their marketing budget paying interns to buy keys and write shit reviews.
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>>338377561
During the open beta, I played as pic related, and that really was all there was to do.
It's just a really boring and uninspired game, that's what killed it for me.
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>>338370693

they wont shut up about sjw nonsense
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>>338378017
Also since there's no chance of it ever becoming "esports" you don't get those "I should be in the highest league but everyone I get matched with sucks" whiners in every other game since the only reason people are actually playing it is for fun.
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>>338378223
More likely a tiny fraction of overwatch's fans reeeing at battleborn's attempted competition tweets. Blizzdrones are very defensive.
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>>338378620
So you are saying the best thing about this game is that it is not very good and not a lot of people are playing it.
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>>338378620
A bunch of people saw it and were "nah that doesn't look fun" and they skipped it.
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>>338378620
A-Are you...
I don't know if you're seriously retarded or a master baiter.
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>>338370693
Obligatory.
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>>338373528
That's pretty fucking ugly, no matter from what standpoint you look at it.

Who okayed this?
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>>338374368
>impossibly big brawny man is shirtless

I guess it's okay to sexualize as long as they aren't female.
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They didn't patch it. It's a broken mess in terms of balance and progression and they didn't even hotfix performance issues on certain (new) maps that weren't part of the beta.
They have the option to quickly deploy patches on Steam but want to release the patches on all platforms, means Xbone, PS4 and Steam at the same time, therefore delaying any update until MS and Sony finish their lenghty approval and certification processes.

The game is unplayable right now if you face enemies who abuse the meta and pick certain heroes while your team doesn't. Half the heroes are also inferior to the other half as they fit the same role but perform worse.

That's before looking at how pointless and badly designed the PvE coop mode is - it shouldn't have been in a MOBA-FPS with heroes and limited character builds to begin with.

That said, I had a better time with the Battleborn multiplayer than with Overwatch because the concept is more interesting and the map are full of small objectives, pickups, turrets, enemies and stuff to do while Overwatch is just a TF2 clone with maps full of chokepoints and questionable hero balance.
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>>338374509
Partially because Blizzard never really did much virtue signaling with Pharah, Symmetra, D.Va or Mei (assuming Asians are PoCs this week.) Oddly enough, the only time they engaged in virtue signaling was with Zarya - a white woman.
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>>338375462
To this day, the question who even WANTED this game to be a reality remains to be answered.
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>>338375837
Question: When there are 100000 mobas, why would a studio make another one?
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>>338379234
I don't know how or you can hold questionable character balance against Overwatch while covering how broken Battleborn is right now
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>>338379234
they are not. The game is good as dead.
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It's made by Gearbox
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I actually played Battleborn during the beta some hours, but the game was incredibly unfun for me. And the graphics was utter shit.
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>>338379427
MMO logic. They want to be the next big hit that blows DOTA2/LOL away, but don't realize people who already have significant time/ money invested into the others are less likely to just jump ship.
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>>338371693
>it's pathetic
You mean twitch viewers in general? I agree.
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>>338379613
>but don't realize people who already have significant time/ money invested into the others are less likely to just jump ship

I can't habeeb it. This is literally the most basic conclusion when looking at the situation.

They know exactly what they are doing, and they should know exactly how hard they are failing. Why are they doing it anyway?
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>>338379498
Because both are disappointing in that regard. It's like asking which medicore game is better or worse - they just don't feel well balanced and designed and if character balance doesn't work out in a class based title it means something is wrong.
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>>338373528
The art style reminds me of early 00s low budget CGI

Anyone else?
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>>338377860
It is true that they brought by Pacific World and it's not by Microsoft's anymore?
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>>338375462
How could they failed that much?
They could have reuse the Borderlands UI, no one would have care
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Fucking Titanfall failed, and that game was fun as hell.
What chance did they think Battleborn had in a genre that already has two F2P giants that have swatted away other competition in the past? Holy shit.
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>>338379838
That picture was a blast from the past.

Never even watched that shit, but I remember it being on the same channel as... I think Pokemon and Xiaolin Showdown?
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I like it. There are some seriously bad decisions, but the overall gameplay is pretty fun, and it sucks that they won't drop the price down to a more sane 40 dollars.

Yet again, Bliz shills are in full swing to rip apart any game that could even begin to compete with their precious not quite as good as TF2 clone. I mean TF2 and even smaller arena shooters were basically a twinkle in people's eyes, yet somehow they are all shit compared to Overwatch. Hm.............

Anyways, it does some pretty fun things. There are some great characters with solid lines (ISIC, the sentry tanks for example), and it does a pretty damn good job of making characters feel unique and different, yet no matter the mode, no characters are really useless. (Unlike Overwatch's, although this is sorta saved by allowing hero switches.)

Personally, even though I hate the MOBA genre, the moba style gameplay is fun. I like a bigger emphasis on not dying myself.

Unfortunately, the biggest sin is that it's such a fucking grind to unlock the full roster, something I am finding INSANELY frustrating. I wish gearbox would just come right out and say "you are right - we fucked up. How do you want us to fix it?" I wouldn't be mad if unlocking maybe a 3rd of the roster was a little difficult, but from the start, only a 3rd of the roster is playable. That's unacceptable.

Also, there is a severe lack of modes, although that is allegedly being fixed in the next update.

I paid 30 dollars from a CDKeys website. I think that's a good price for it, honestly. I'm still having a pretty fair amount of fun, and honestly /v/ has been cherry picking pretty hard about this game, but really it's just "okay."
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>>338378934
And you'll never know for sure.
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>>338370693
The gameplay looks kind of fun, but I'm not willing to sink 70 dollars on it.
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>>338375465
This is actually a pretty good post, anon.
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>>338380260
titanfall sold plenty of copies, died fast but was at the very least a success money wise
this is not
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>>338379773
I think in Battleborns case it's that the FPS-MOBA "genre" is pretty much empty, so they think they can snare FPS players away from what they play with MOBA features, and give MOBA players something different with FPS features, and end up with a game bigger than MOBA+FPS combined.

It comes down to arrogance on Gearboxes part.
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>>338380339
>Bliz shills
It's my first Blizzard game, though, anon :^)
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>>338378620
It pains me to admit that this is actually a sound argument
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>>338380513
You don't even need to play video games to be a shill anon (^:
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>>338374575
>YTMND
Well, I know how I'm spending my morning: rewatching the classics.
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>>338380903
>Battleborn figures image
I had to look it up, I couldn't believe it.
How could they fuck up that badly?
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>>338379427
Games take time to make. They started development when there weren't as many competitors.
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>>338380035
I would have preferred if Battleborn was an FPS MOBA version of Borderlands. Its humour might be cancer, but at least the gameplay was alright.
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>>338378206
Meh, it's hardly fascism if a creator changes his work to be something he wants to see more.
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>>338381196
By being cheap.
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>>338380903
>tracer fig
Anon, I...
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So when is Gearbox gonna go out of business? Sure at some point people are gonna get tired of fucking borderlands
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>>338378940
Is this for real? Did people actually buy this bs excuse? As if splitscreen isn't all done on the same account?
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>>338381298
>Those lips
what the fuck
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>>338380903
Wait, what's the story behind that Square Enix crossover art?
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>>338370693
Bad release date
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>>338381298
A mediocre face and good everything else is better than a shit face and a mediocre everything else, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNeh7Rg3t4U
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>>338378940
>months for split screen
Alright that's understandable, if you can't do it you can't do it.
>But don't worry we followed the basic standards for pc ports :)
Fuck em.
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>Call Battleborn "Shitty Overwatch ripoff" whenever I see it being discussed on places other than /v/ (pissing in an ocean of piss, etc.)
>Huge tantrum ensues
Who /devilish/ here?
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>>338381416
It wasn't a bad release date, anon. Blizzard just decided to murder Memebox's chances at their game not flopping by moving their open beta to Battleborn's launch.
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>>338379838
my god this show
fucking korea i swear
The robot was rad as fuck tho
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>>338379238
That's because everyone flipped their shit over it. Blizzard wasn't gonna ignore free advertising.
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>>338375708
Fuck you I liked brothers in arms.
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should have been just a new Borderlands-ish game, only this time with 20 something kooky kharacters saving the Universe and shit

FPS-MOBA is a brain fart idea, the should have been shit canned the moment someone said "you can stun people in a first person shooter"
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#41 most played
#44 best selling this week
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>>338374509
Having a pretty face is problematic.
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>>338376776
I personally can stand neither BB nor Overwatch but am fine with Gigantic.
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>Grinding in a game that's full retail price

This is their biggest sin and why I refuse to purchase it.

Don't try to half-ass this fucking shit. If it's F2P then you have a valid EXCUSE for shilling characters. Not every game lives off hats like DOTA can, I don't expect you to. But I drop $60 on a game and you STILL expect me to grind for content? Piss on an electric fence.
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Gearbox, who has a garbage rep for apparently being staffed entirely by assholes, thought they can make a MOBA and announce halfway through that they were going to switch to Memelands 3 as soon as they were done. Read: No post launch support.

Couple that with characters that aren't nearly as interesting or gameplay nearly as engrossing, and you've got yourself a recipe for Gearbox signature garbage.
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>>338377449
>gameplay is actually kinda fun

>Everyone is a huge bullet sponge
>Levels have almost no verticality
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>>338381668
What was the original date for the open beta? I can't find it.
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>>338370693

Overwatch has a lot going for it competitively, but if anything it also has the cinematechs going for it casually which could easily grab someone's eye. Sorry, but Gearbox just isn't as talented as Blizzard when it comes to getting you hyped with Pixar level CGI work.
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It's an FPS MOBA, but because of Gearbox's awful marketing people thought (and the vast majority still thinks) that's it's a Hero Shooter a la Overwatch/TF2. This is what killed it.
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>>338382232
This, what the fuck? I just about understand having to buy heroes in LoL, but in a game you pay full price for? That's fucking irredeemable.
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>pay 60 bucks
>still have to grind in-game currency to unlock stuff
yeah, how about no
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>>338375837
I wanted to play Gigantic because of the art direction.
Then W10 only came and now I want to see it die.
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>>338372427
It's an obvious joke, anon.
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>>338375334
They stole money that Sega gave them for Aliens: Colonial Marines and used it to make Memerlands 2.
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>>338383168
Isn't it not W10 exclusive now? I thought I heard they were getting rid of that restriction.
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>>338383168
damn that looks comfy
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>>338383384
I remember wanting to play the closed beta for ages, and when it finally happened, they announced a partnership with Microsoft and W10 exclusivity. I haven't seen anything about the removal of that retriction anywhere.
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>>338383538
>>338383384
https://www.gogigantic.com/en/news/perfect-world-partners-with-gigantic
Holy shit you were right.
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>>338383538
Apparently they got a new partner that doesn't have Microsoft's sick wedged firmly in it's asshole so they were able to abolish that restriction.

Too bad it's fucking Perfect World Entertainment

https://www.gogigantic.com/en/news/perfect-world-partners-with-gigantic
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>>338383620
Thanks for the heads up, nerd
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>>338383620
Yes it is.
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>>338381298
Hi Brianna.
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>>338371585
>blizzshills still pretend it's because overwatch and not because there's tons of f2p garbage on the market already
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Man, I just can't help but think everything that is going wrong with Battleborn is something Gearbox did on purpose because they have an ego that fucking huge it can't be described in words.

I bet during one of their meetings to decide stuff like release day and price they were like "lets release it before Overwatch, we'll get it out early and dominate the market because we're Gearbox fuck you Blizzard!".

You just know something like this happened because that is how arrogant Gearbox is.
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>>338381196
They were cheap freebies with gamestop preorders. Doesn't excuse them being quite as terrible as they are but you'd be insane to expect them to be high quality.
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>>338375013
That emblem on the side looks strangely similar to goatse
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>>338383939
Honestly a lot of the game's choices feel like they only make sense if it was a big hit that people couldn't stop playing. It's frustrating to say the least.
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>>338383934
>Blizzard moving their open beta to Battleborn's launch had nothing to do with Battleborn flopping
Anon, are you retarded? There was even a Battleborn dev complaining about it a few days ago.
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Gearbox. They had the chance to, right off the bat make it clear that OW and BB don't compete. They should have made sure everyone knows the difference.

But they didn't. Instead they, as most western Devs would, assumed their product was flawless and that they could do no wrong. Their arrogance told them to 'btfo blizzard' since they were so sure that their zany and BADASS characters are much cooler than OW and that their progressive designs would win the fans over.

And here we are now. They deserve every bit of it. I hope the game is dead within a month after the OW release.
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>>338384141
Holy shit
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>>338374993

Some things to consider.

Of the 108k users who own the game, 102k of them have at some point played the game. This is 94% of it's owners. Despite this, it struggles to maintain 5k concurrent users.
What this means is the game is just bad. The people who actually own the game are not playing it much anymore. It is not an issue of sales, nor is it an issue of "y-you didn't play it, people who played it love it!". It is literally people who own the game are just not playing it anymore, most likely because it's not a good game.

Let's not get into the actual statistics of the game (about 420k sales across 3 platforms, has made back about 1/3rd of it's total budget and is probably never going to make it all back).
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>>338383620
Don't try to run away from your autism, bro. It will not go away.
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>>338379838
this fucking show
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>>338383620
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Here's a question,

If you want to be the next League or CS GO in terms of dedicated playerbase, why would you host your game on a platform you didn't have complete control over?
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>>338384675
Because unless you're a major publisher using an extra client that's not steam can keep people from playing your game.
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>>338384376
Good post.
People can't even call you a Blizz shill.
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I'm currently playing it since I have nothing better to do (Other than studying) until overwatch comes out.

It's literally just a moba in first person, it's fucking terrible.
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>>338378940
>Randy Varnell
>Randy

Every time its a fucking randy
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I really want to enjoy Battleborn. The campaign is a lot of fun.

Gearbox really fucked themselves though in a few ways, one of which was releasing it so close to Overwatch despite the games not playing the same at all.

The unlock system for heroes is kind of annoying because it means you have to grind to play the ones you really want. It's not an F2P game so there really isn't a good reason for this.

I'm not going to go into the performance issues much, but because it's basically tied to PhysX, it runs like shit on anything that isn't an Nvidia graphics card, and it's probably worse about it than shit like Arkham City despite not even looking half as detailed.
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>>338370693
Blizzard shills
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>>338384376
This
I own the game and I can tell you that this anon is 100% correct
It was fun for a little bit, but all the little cracks and flaws in literally everything, plus the constant low amount of players, pretty much killed it for me.
Gearbox will need to literal miracle work if they ever want this game to do okay past this month
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>>338378268
>play melee character
>complain when you do melee attacks
Fucking retards.
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>>338378940
>No Borderlands 3 split screen
I'm fucking mad. Just make it like Borderlands one without that multiple account bullshit.
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>>338374368
Man, glad I'm not that guy
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so who's money will Gearbox steal to stay afloat this time?
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Bad artstyle.
Bad marketing.
Bad QoL.
Bad Publisher.
Fun game.

Fun can only outweigh so much.
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>No one playing
>Already half off on key sites
>Overwatch comes out in 3 days

Fucking retarded Gearbox. Hopefully they fuck off from the industry now
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>>338385015
It's not a good post. The logic is fucked.
If you have 100k people who own your game and 5k people who play it at a time, that means 1/20th of the people who own it are playing it at once. That's pretty good, technically EVERONE owns TF2 and Dota, but not even 5% of steam users will be playing those games at a time. And for most games, if you can get 5% of your customers to play it together all at once, that's pretty good.

Afterall, it's been noted many times that people who buy games might not play them, especially on Steam. Those that do play them, likely won't even finish them.

But the logic is even fucked beyond trying to make a strong player base look like a weak one. Because it assumes that the 5k pool of players are all the same people all the time. In a 12-hour time span, it is not the same 5k players playing anymore, it's a different pool of 5k players. Which means that, at worst, it's more like the game that sold ~100k copies on PC has ~10% regular players who bought it, which is an excellent player base.

/v/ is a board that likes to talk about how TF2 is dying, but I only wish the games I regularly played online had as many concurrent players as these supposedly dying and weak playerbases.
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>>338375410
>Fingerless glove meter

Gets me every time.
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>>338385259
I own it to and I always find players almost immediately. Are you playing Meltdown? because only scrubs play Incursion.
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>>338385607

Game was half off on keysites before it was released.
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- Terrible visuals
- Nothing does damage because moba
- Most fights are not won by skill but by team member participation (moba)
- Melee is just a cluster fuck
- 100 fov is not enough
- keep left click clicked melee feels TERRIBLE
- single player is boring as shit
- normal co-op is boring as shit
- single non-moba mode is still not fun because, well, see point number 3

The game just doesn't work, at all. I regret the 30 bucks I spent on it.
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>>338385165
HEY

not all randys
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>>338385763
I had no problems finding players too when I played Yes, I did play Meltdown
The problem is that having a good playerbase size is the life blood of a multiplayer focused game.
Having only 4k players after release does not bode well for longetivity
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>Game has super original line-up and inventive outside the box gameplay
What a tragedy this game was released says /v/
>Game has THE single most ripped off cast, gameplay, and story, EVER.
Please glorious Blizzard masters, feed your shitty cashgrab to me
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>>338385861
>shitting up vidya with your persecution comolex politics bullshit

Fuck off, sage/not vidya
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>>338385928
Go to bed Randy
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>>338385616

You can't compare this shit to DotA 2 because like you said, technically everyone owns it. There is no accurate statistic for how many people actually have played it.
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>>338385587
They're part of a multi-billion dollar corporation.
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>>338385865
literally all those points apply to Overwatch to some degree
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>>338385616
>complaining about logic
>trying to compare a $60 gearbox games' statistics to F2P games with 100x the userbase and no buy-in

fuck off.
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>>338385914
It's still a baby. They want to be a competitive moba. I think it'll pick up as more modes and characters come out. It's really a very well made game. And it has a heavy hitting af studio. I have hope. It's not like Evolve
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>>338385713


I don't understand why "fingerless glove meter" is funny, am I missing some reference ?
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>>338386059
Except they don't.
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As leery as the Japanese are of Overwatch, at least they care about it.
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>>338371585
savage
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>>338374368
>Women, want respect? Dress and act like a man!
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>>338385865
You can easily carry BB matches with skill, if you are good. Hitboxes are tiny and game is super fast. If you can land your shit consistently you are basically op in this game
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Memelands fatigue.
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Why even try to compete with Blizzard? You KNOW anything they put out(because it's so rare they finally launch a game) is going to be supported for 30 fucking years. Wal-Marts still sell Starcraft 1 and Diablo 1&2 as new titles to normies, and it actually moves. Original Blizzard fan's KIDS are now old enough to buy their own copies of Blizzard games, and are.

It's stupid to have even tried
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>>338373762
what the fuck is that face. Who designed it???? WHOOOOO
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>>338374368
>Unironically saying man/woman/person of color
Jesus Christ, no wonder everyone's glad they're not that guy
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-Gearbox has a reputation for being bad at making games that aren't called Borderlands
-While the first-person perspective does put a new spin on it, it's still fundamentally a MOBA and that's a pretty saturated market right now (more importantly, its competition in that space is all F2P)
-It launched within a month of another online multiplayer game played in a first-person perspective with a colorful/"cartoon-ey" art style that had much more hype behind it mostly due to the fact that its developer has a much better reputation

Had it launched a few months earlier (or later) than Overwatch it might have had a chance to at least be decently successful, though I don't think it was ever going to be The Next Big Thing in online MP.
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do people really think that overwatch is the reason why battleborn bombed?
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>>338386163
it's absurd, that's all
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You know I don't have either game, but from everything I've seen Overwatch is just heinous. Like this game is a black sin on the gaming industry. I've lost faith in the gaming community that people are eating that shit up. Little kids man.
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>>338386149
I hope you're right about this.
I may be buying into the "Needs to sell a gorillian copies to do well" meme more than I thought.
But Gearbox has a lot of de-fucking work to do with this game
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>>338386035
Yet they still steal money.
>>338386232
Stop posting this already.
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Game could have been good. Then they decided it has to be a moba.
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>>338370693
they tried to market themselves as competing with overwatch which is a completely different game and way more polished

they shot themselves in the foot from the get go
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>>338386475


Yeah that's what I tought, I was intrigued by people constantly saying "kek lost it at fingerless glove meter", but I was pretty sure they were doing that because that's everybody do when this pic is posted.
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>>338375837

I tried the Gigantic beta when it was on the xbone expecting nothing but it turned out to be really fucking fun and I dont even like ASSFAGGOTS. Aisling was my favorite hero by far coincidentally.
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>>338386492
They are releasing free modes soon. We'll see when the modes come out if they can keep it from going stale. There are players who are level 90 already too. Which is sooooooo much play time. As long as the diehards keep the servers up while new content comes out. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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>>338377449
>They reused Cloud's victory animation for no reason
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>Battleborn threads
>shit steam statistics, shilling, Blizzard bashing, more talk about developers than actual gameplay

>Overwatch threads
>huge amounts of fan art and memes of many different styles and artists, memearrow stories of matches games & situations, character balance and team compositions, future development brainstorming
>zero comments about BB/Gearbox

It's easy to see which game has players, and which game is furious & failed social marketing. Which is amazing considering one isn't even released yet.
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>>338385763
Maybe the fucking retards at Gearbox should have made the game modes similar enough to justify having only one queue, like Overwatch did. Or they could have focused on only one game mode, like MOBAs do.

Personally I refunded after trying two of the three modes. I think Meltdown is the one I missed. Maybe I would have liked it? Who knows, I had 1.9 hours played in a shitty game and I wasn't going to lock myself out of a refund by trying a mode that maybe might not suck ass. Gearbox fucked up bad by hiding their "good" game mode instead of shoving it in their player's faces.
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>>338377449
Is gameplay suppose to look that janky?
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>>338376530
Not anymore.
Sadly, the whole IP went to Queerbox after another court case with 3DR but the EDuke32 dev still legally has the license for the mobile port which Randy thinks he owns, too.
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>>338386149
>it'll pick up as more modes

They would be suicidal to release any more modes. They already have too many.
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>>338377449
why do people compare this to overwatch again? it looks way more like a first person smite
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>>338386920
It's even worse when you actually play it, don't worry.
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>>338386813

BUT IT'S A REFERENCE XDDDD
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>>338386918
Meltdown is the basically the standard 3 lane moba mode. But instead of attackable towers with hp, the towers have a creep counter. Imo its a very original way to do tower pushing in a moba.
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>>338387173
So it's the main game mode that the characters are designed and balanced around, and they decided to put it at the bottom of a list of three. Lots of smart decisions went into making this game.
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>>338387018
People only really play 2 of them
And basically experienced players play Meltdown, noobs play Incursion. Once you play a bit you understand how things work better.
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>>338387173
>basically standard
>very original
x-D
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>>338370693
gearbox wanted competition and decided overwatch was the best candidate
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>>338387292
Because it's the last mode you're supposed to play the other two are like practice for Meltdown basically.
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>>338377449
Uh did that first person even know they were being killed?
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>>338381298
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>>338386525
>Stop posting this already.
What? Why?
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>>338387659
Because it's a fake translation.
It's funny, but fake
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>>338384219
source, i want a good laugh.
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>>338387292
I don't feel like there is a main game mode. There're three game modes, and they're all reasonable. Incursion is the one that takes the most amount of time.
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>>338386232
All of the translations I bothered checking were completely made up
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>>338387723
The Japanese translation actually says "did they get the rights from Kojima Products and Konami? Because that's a direct ripoff."
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>>338386232
Good point. Why CAN'T americans make japanese characters who aren't ninjas or yakuza?
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>>338387723
So?
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>>338378206
Equal Opportunity Fanservice for all.
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>>338374368
Her entire character design looks retarded though. She looks like an oddly shaped human chicken hybrid with a flappy spaghetti arm that contorts so she can hold her pistol in that silly ghetto-blasta way.
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>>338378206
Damn those sexy lamp posts, looking like degenerate strip poles!
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>>338387726
I don't remember which thread it was in specifically, since there was a Battleborn dev crying about his game failing on here for several days.
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>>338388114
Gearbox's modellers can't do proportions worth anything, which is why. Borderlands suffers from spaghetti people too.
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>>338387859
That's the main reason I hate Overwatch. Characters so fucking generic I can't believe they weren't sued a few times.

Whatever you say about BB the characters are original. Or self-aware of who they are ripping off at least with jokes and dialogue.

Overwatch is like playing as John Marsten along side a COG of war. But Blizzard acts like they invented them.
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>>338386382
it looks like that one tranny /v/ is always talking about
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>>338388223
>But Blizzard acts like they invented them.

Proofs?
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>>338371230
9,700,000 Overwatch
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>>338371585
How to get your ass fired as a social media manager.
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>>338388241
It's also not far from the character designs from said tranny's game.
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>>338388328
I don't see them licensing the characters from their studios. I mean just fucking look at this.
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>>338373528
I just have no fucking clue how somebody thought that giant motherfucker with a tiny head looked good.

I guess it's supposed to be distinctive and unique? It sure is, it makes me wanna hurl every time I see it.
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>>338388701
Blatant
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>>338388764
it's only bad as a joke :)
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>>338388701
didn't know generic cowboys are copyrighted
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>>338388868
blatant
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>>338388701
>>338388868
Oh wow, they're fucking cowboys. Such blatant ripping off.
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>>338388868
only rockstar is allowed to make scruffy cowboys?
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>>338388335
>9700000 players in a free open beta
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>>338388984
I don't see his cybernetic breast plate, robo arm and flashbang
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Bought it - played for 6 hours, realized it's absolute shit and playing paladins instead.
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>>338379838
>That fat retarded ginger was called Mong
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>>338374880
How does the loot work? Do you pick up new guns and shields?
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>>338373894

Battleborn is pretty much a first person Monday Night Combat from the in game bantz, to the free roaming arena with minions.

I miss Monday Night Combat.
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>>338389101
>Bought it - played for 6 hours, realized it's absolute shit and playing paladins instead.
How is Paladins? I heard it's shit too, even less polished, and p2w to boot.
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>>338386895

The biggest sign that your game is in trouble is when your fanboys all have complexes about your game's competition. See also: every failed MMO being filled with people talking about how their game is so much better than WoW.
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>>338370693
The HUD and overbearing graphics. Can't see shit, cap'n.
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>>338371230
>>338388335
>>338389071

+100 milions in League of Legends.

So what?

Does this mean lol is better you autists?
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>>338389001
>>338389009
>>338388939
They could have done anything to make the fucker not look like carbon copy. I'm sorry but he looks like shitty John Marston if there was an N64 RDR port
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>>338388701

Blizzard's characters might be derivative but at least they succeed from a basic design standpoint.

Battleborn's art direction is fucking disgusting. Look at box art red sword man, I can't get over how shitty his armor looks. It's such an uniconic, undistinct look, it tells you nothing about his character, and he looks like a generic enemy from another game. Literally no thought or intention in the design.

On the other hand we have minigun man with generic armor and a disgustingly over stylized tiny head, a lady who flies while wearing a dress for some dumb reason, and le epic steampunk man.
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>>338389273
The issue with Paladins is that the CEO forces people to do what he likes
If he playtests a character and loses, he has it get a massive buff
If he gets a "genius" idea while taking a shit, it's implemented even if it ruins the game
It can be good one patch and absolute trash the next
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>>338389315
You're attacking somebody who holds the same stance as you buddy.
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>>338389332
he looks WAY more like >>338388984 than >>338388868

it's almost as if they're both based off the generic cowboy
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>>338389273
Well, it's better than battleborn, it's still not great though. Worth the 80 cents I put in to get into the beta.
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>>338388415
Is that suit on the heavily tattooed girl see though?
cause I think I see complete tattoos.
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>>338389382

Forgot image
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Is the shooting as terrible as it looks? 'Cause it looks like it feels terrible, I just get the impression that it feels like you're shooting fisher price toys at bulletsponges for days.
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>>338389506
Yes it is.
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>>338389273
It rips off both Battleborn and Overwatch, while feeling more mediocre than both. Attacks have no hit feedback, maps are pointlessly large, and they pulled some slimey scumbag move with the card system. The characters are ripped off from both games. I'd avoid it.
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>>338389382
At least you can't say look at that Master Yi rip-off about Rath. And he has Vegeta's American VA. IDK about any flying dress ladies. Not in Battleborn.
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>>338386232
Those translations are wrong. Don't see a point of making this image when most people on this site have a basic understanding of Japanese
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>>338387726
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>>338389706
>most people on this site have a basic understanding of Japanese
Haha, no.
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>>338389695
>>338389506
Oh I see your knowledge of the game is based mostly of that picture.
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>>338375837
I'll be playing this now that it's not W10 exclusive anymore
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>>338389803
>Perfect World Entertainment
Enjoy your chinese spyware and guaranteed pay-to-win .
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>>338389746
>"Competition is real!"
>His tweets in general
Don't fucking say that stuff online, say it in private and see how to avoid your potential fuckup
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>>338373528
i kinda like the dapper robot personally
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>>338389782
There's threads of learning Japanese for video games so yes i would think most of those people would know how to read Hiragana and Katakana
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Because it looks like a modern Bubsy 3D, I'm really not one to complain about graphics but Battleborn's art style is fucking disgusting.
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>>338389802

My knowledge of the game's character designs comes from looking at the game's character designs.

>>338389695

You can't say anything about Rath because he literally has no design elements other than RED SWORDS. RED SWORDS is, quite literally, all the visual substance there is to his character, the rest is an afterthought.

Flying dress lady here:
>>338389506
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>>338375837
so it's a loli with a stand? kinda neat
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>>338390070
Rath has a story, I just haven't unlocked it in the game yet. You get chunks of lore for completing challenges. His story is probably less generic that any Overwatch characters.

That dress lady doesn't fly. Which is why I said you must have learned everything you know about the game from looking at character art.
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>>338379238
what the fuck is virtue signaling
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>>338390337
He's talking about the design you gigantic fucking retard.
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>>338378940

It's funny because Serious Sam 3 has 4 player split screen and it probably cost half as much to make than Battleborn.
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>>338387859

I think it's more that if you want to make a ninja/yakuza type they pretty much have to be Japanese, and if you're making a non-ninja/yakuza type you could maybe have them be Japanese but they already *have* two Japanese characters so it makes sense to have them originate from a place that isn't represented yet.

Also keep in mind that the game's two American characters are a cowboy and someone explicitly designed to be a stereotypical American shooter soldier type. So it's not like they're stereotyping everyone but themselves here.
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>>338390337
Actually, she does fly. Floating above the ground is effectively flying.
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>>338390349
some bullshit jargon by gender politics activists no doubt
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>>338373762
why does it look like their character designs are drawn by that fucking tranny who made that god awful game
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Holy fuck this thread is still going.. maybe the game isn't that ded after all.
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>>338390349
"Look at how virtuous we are!!" at a guess.
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>>338390404
How can you comment on the design without knowing the characters story? And as generic and unremarkable as Overwatch characters are, having a gimmick like big red swords is still a step up.

>>338390465
Please, she cant fly, she can teleport, and glide. Benedict flies thats a pretty clear distinction.
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>>338390337

I'm not talking about the lore you dumb braindead fucking retard, I'm talking about the visual design. Whatever the character's story is (and I'm sure it's shit), his design is fucking awful and relays nothing about his background. He's just generic sci fi soldier man but RED SWORDS.

If dress lady doesn't fly than I can only say it's very strange that official promotional art depicts her as flying through the air. Imagine if Overwatch's cowboy character was just flying through the fucking air like superman on the cover art/promo art etc.

You're starting to sound an awful lot like a fucking shill too.
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>>338390875
Come on, anon. /v/ is nothing but shills.
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>>338390979

The game to me is distinguishing between the obvious falseflagging, the ironic meta shilling, and actual shills.
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>>338390839
>How can you comment on the design without knowing the characters story?
Are you fucking serious?
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>>338390349
It's exactly what it sounds like, saying or doing stuff to show how virtuous you are to your peers. Usually consists of making a big deal out of saying how good you are or making a big deal out of openly saying how bad something else is to show how good you are for decrying it.
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>>338390875
Calm your tits scooter. Visual design is a matter of opinion first of all. You can't fucking say whether his gear relays anything about his story, because you don't know his fucking story.
And bruh, taking cover art literally? Autism detected.
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>>338389901
I will! Thanks, buddy
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>>338391306
Yeah, thats called judging a book by it's cover you small minded fuck
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>>338391094
>Shilling on /v/
Man you guys really think this site is more popular and important than it is.
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>>338376084
>Feeling bad for 2K after Evolve

Why?
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>>338389506
On the one hand, I'm glad they didn't straight up steal the art and IP of an independent artist this time around.

On the other hand Christ in Heaven, Battleborn is utterly uninspiring to look at. It saps the will to live right out of me.
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>>338391371

Visual design is NOT a matter of fucking opinion. IT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE MAN is what people who don't know the first fucking thing about design say. Although art has certain subjective qualities, it also has formal elements and this holds true for design in particular.

I can say his gear says nothing about his story without knowing his story, because his gear conveys nothing at all. That's the point I'm trying to make. Unless his story is generic space marine, because that's what his design imparts.

I'm not taking cover art literally, I'm critiquing the design choice of having a dress wearing character fly through the air when that makes no sense, on a visual level.

Any other questions?
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>>338391461
>I can defend this bland design of a character because maybe he's from blandistan, where people have to look as generic as possible and are only allowed to have one defining feature about them!

Yeah, sorry about that, our bad. Swear to god you people are retarded.
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>>338373528
They're supposed to be uniquez and artisticccc! xD But somehow they all look like they were designed by a preteen
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>>338389746
Based Notch is at it again
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>>338384141
Fuck, your post needs more (you)
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>>338391815
>>338391752
You don't like it in the same way, you might see a singer and say wow he looks like a pussy, and write off his band because of it. You're already biased about it for various reasons. Alternatively someone who for example loves DBZ and recognizes the Vegeta VA, is biased in the opposite direction. That's how opinion works.
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>59.99
considering all the negative response and the release date very similar to overwtach, gear box should be paying and begging for people to play the game
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>>338392445
Paid 30 and still feel ripped off.
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>>338390349
Pretty much if pharah or mei or whoever was constantly spouting off about girl power! Or "sorry boys! but you just got beat by a girl!" And shit like that. Basically how most games write their females when they begin pandering to the sjws.
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>>338392285

Already biased about it? Is this when you accuse the haterz and the people buying Overwatch of deliberately trying to sabotage your precious game?

I was very interested in Battleborn for all of 5 seconds. I saw the open beta, thought it looked interesting, downloaded, told my friends about it, then played it for about 2 hours before being completely turned off by it - and the art direction was a big reason why. I also have 0 interest in Overwatch.

I went into the game with an open mind and gave it a fair shake, but I don't have any problem calling a spade a spade. I'm glad you like Vegeta's VA anon, that's pretty neato but again, that has nothing at all to do with the appalling and uninspired art direction.
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>>338384141
jej
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>>338378940
>Rocket League has split-screen online on pc
>Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed has split screen online on pc
>Sorry guys it's not possible at all on Steam :^)
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>>338392504
WOW DUDE did you get to play the game early? Are you from another dimension where you can't get a fucking refund?
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>>338392861
Didn't get it on steam, you fucking retard.
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>>338392726
I'm not defending the design I'm saying its a matter of opinion. Which it seems we more or less agree on.
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>>338392987
You can't refund a game you don't own yet???
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>>338393148
what the FUCK are you talking about
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guise,my 4chan is blinking with 4chan activated,wuts habening i'm scared
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>>338393329
See >>338392134
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>>338393086

Sure. I actually think the game has a lot of cool, fun things going as far as the gameplay and such. Personally art direction has a big impact on my enjoyment of a game, but if you don't care about design and are more engrossed by other aspects of the game then more power to you.

Opinions, opinions.
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>>338380339
I'm ripping the game apart because
1. It's fun to shit on something worthy of being shat on
2. It's failing so hard it's laughable
3. It's memebox, fuck them and their sjw pandering
4. The game is shit and I'm glad I refunded (my friend begged me to play it with him, since he loves borderlands and tried to sell me on it being a better borderlands)
And a little bit of it is that I'm hyped for overwatch and knowing how badly battleborn wanted us overwatch drones just makes it even more fun to shit on their game.
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>>338381657
One of my friends tries to defend this game to death while simultaneously begging anyone to play it with him. We all proceed to just talk about overwatch instead and how shit stillborn is, mainly to give him an autism stroke.
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>>338386136
>>338386025
>missing the point
>grasping at straws
'kay
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>>338389332
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>>338374534
All dat buyers remorse faggots in denial lmao
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>>338389506
I'm seeing this red guy a lot. Are they seriously using Cutter from Antz as the poster boy for the game? They don't have anybody else.. I dunno more appealing?
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>>338395380
Well their most "appealing" character in the whole game is a fucking bird man.

I dunno why but for some reason in the battleborn community the most popular character in the game based on character alone is Benedict.
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>>338396223
He's an annoying as shit redneck. What the fuck, man?
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>>338396535
look up porn of battleborn.

All you will find is either foot fetish fuel of the elf. Orendi Shadman porn. Or birdman.
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>>338389506

Mere proof that originality isn't the most important thing when it comes to character design.

Is Overwatch's cyborg ninja more original than a mushroom ninja? Absolutely not. Does it fit with the setting better and make for a more approachable character? Damn right.

None of the Battleborn characters look like they belong in anywhere near the same game.
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>>338370693
It's a schizophrenic shooter that wants to be borderlands but doesn't want to be borderlands, wants to be dota but doesn't want to be dota, wants to be a single player experience but doesn't want to be a single player experience, wants to be tf2 but doesn't want to be tf2, and has a cast of all sorts of different boring characters that nobody cares about that all say this overdone #ironic shit.
>kill vampire dude
>heheh suck on this

>kill girl
>feminism rox

>kill Mexican dude
>something overtly racist but it's cool when liberals do it so who cares

Battleborn is what happens when being your kid to work day extends over a 2 year period.
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>>338381485
>A mediocre face and good everything else
No, its really not good at all.
Unless its $10 in the bargain bin, why would you waste your money on something that looks so bad?
Buying a figure is for aesthetics, you want something you can look at a think, man that looks cool, instead of, man I fucking hate that ugly face
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Randy you fat fuck put on a shirt and fuck outta here.
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>>338388335
>thinks this is actualy correct
>a free beta is somehow the same as a 40€ video game
>some poeple including myself totally didn't disliked the game or found it boring after about 10 hours of gameplay
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>>338396223
>bird wearing combat boots
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Why the fuck would moba players that play for free finally fucking buy a moba?
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>>338398150
but bruh don't you see how they are cut off for his claws?

ain't that original lmao xD
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If there's one thing that truly dumbfounds me it's the story's premise. I get that story is a minor point in gearbox games and in this one in particular, but honestly, THE LAST STAR IN THE UNIVERSE is such a fucking grandiose and dramatic concept, why couldn't you just make it a simple story? Can you not see how severely that clashes with your fucking visual design?
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>>338375462
Stop posting fake one
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>>338388701
Stereotypes are easy to understand and relate to, that's why they are popular. Perchance do you complain when Arabs are shown as terrorists in movies?
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>>338388223
>The characters are original
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>>338370693
Art style absolutely KILLED my interest in this game. Looks like a 5 year old ate paint and vomited everywhere.
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>>338373894
Overwatch suffers from the ASSFAGGOTS cancer though with the whole abilities on cooldown and ultimates bullshit.
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>mfw seeing battleborn for the first time

someone should fire everyone working on the game
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>>338374451
>>338375334
They're murderers.
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>>338375334
They made this.
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>>338396223
There's something wrong when furbait is one of your most popular characters.

I honestly thought the rapier chick would've been the most popular because she's at least salvageable for porn.
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>>338370693
>that art style
>those characters
>Gearbox
>MOBA

You tell me
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>>338399598
see: >>338396638
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>>338375837
I really want a proper 3rd person Team Fortress 2. All that character design and customization is wasted when you can't see it.
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>>338372425
Did the designers not notice this?
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eh I dunno, I've got my 200 hours of fun out of it. The multiplayer has some problems, but it's fun to learn the characters for most effective play.

I'm also guessing most people in this thread didn't actually play the game, but are basing this image on a few cherrypicked images and whatever stupid shit the devs spouted out.

I bought both BB and OW, and they're not even similar enough to be compared other than both are cartoony and released the same month.
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How the FUCK did battleborn manage to make a game with more ugly generic and uninspired visual design than Wildstar?
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You know what's really fun? Feeling like attacks do N O T H I N G
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>>338400406
>That UI

You're going to have to pay to get the vomit cleaned out of my carpet.
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>>338400774
What's bad about it?
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>>338390875
>>338391752
Phoebes dress is telekinetic and hovers, additionally thats what she looks like when lunging through the air.
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>>338400406
>I'm also guessing most people in this thread didn't actually play the game

I very much played it. It's like a bad f2p moba. What now?
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>>338400908
If you can't see how it's shitty then I don't know what to tell you bruv. Get some glasses or something

Prolly just a shill anyways
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>>338389746
Man fuck notch. Pretentious fatass.
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>>338400406
Eh, I played bb and found it lacking in the extreme.
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>>338385897
Fuck off, Randy.
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>>338401758
Yeah, you've got a sound argument.
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>>338401758

This is literally the exact response I expected. Congratulations, retard.
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>>338401890
>>338401947
Shills at it again!
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>>338401141
Too bad, I guess? I enjoyed it, you didn't.
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First Evolve now this, 2K just cant into multiplayer fps
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>>338402001
>anyone who disagrees with me is a shill!

That much mean there's a whole Blizzard marketing department on this board right now
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>>338402265
How much are they paying you?
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>>338402001
>"grrrRRAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWRRRRR STOP T-TALKING ABOUT GAMES I CAN'T AFFORD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>>338402363
Enough to cover all expenses for your mom's escort services, faggot
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>>338370693
Not enough bird husbando.
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Alright, 11 hours played. Can say I enjoyed not a single one - was hoping for it to click with me but nope. Doesn't work.
Can't get beyond the bullshit of dealing no damage because it's a moba. How can they fuck up both gunplay and melee?
Man, I'm actually salty about the money I wasted.
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lmao this game sucks ass
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>>338402683
git gud, seriously
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>>338402801
Fuck off. Shots deal no damage, melee attacks deal no damage. Encouters take forever, simply because it's a fucking moba and not a real action game. It just feels wrong.
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>>338402404
Why would you buy a game that's not worth money?

>>338402487
They're paying you with mutual love and enough time to know that you're the right person?
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>>338402964
>Why would you buy a game that's not worth money?
Because the worth of entertainment is subjective
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>>338370693
>People still defending this $60 garbage

I just don't get it.
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>>338403075
I'm sorry for your shitty taste then friend. I guess some men were meant to gargle diarrhea wherever they find it.
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>>338403137
Some people enjoy things that you don't. Might come as a shock, but you'll live.
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>>338370693
They somehow thought releasing right near overwatch while not shilling there game anywhere at all was a good idea.

They blew more money on this than borderlands yet didnt advertise it at all. Did they use most of that money to jack off or something?
Even more surprising since they shilled Borderlands everywhere
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>>338371585
i like how shitty the bb pic looks, while overwatch in game screenshots look better than bb promo art
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>>338403137
There are people who love fat women.
There are people who think Islam doesn't breed terrorists.
There are people who believe holocaust happened.

So i can accept that some odd guy can defend gearbox games.
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>>338403231
You seem bitter and angry. Are you ok?

I'll just be enjoying video games over here
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>>338370693
At this point Battleborn is a lolcow in game form.
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>>338403256
who is this cutie.
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>>338403649
>can only see about 10 percent of your screen
>rest is taken up by weapon model on the whole right half and the shitty fisher price UI everywhere else
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>>338403649
Watching someone play a shitty game is like watching a friend legitimately talk about suicide.
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>>338403649
Why does the gun need to take up 1/4 of the screen? There might be bad guys hiding behind the gun

It's not even realistic, you don't hold a gun up to your face like that
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>>338372425
i gotchu bruhj
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>>338403801
>cartoony game with cartoony characters
>realistic
pick one

>>338403795
But you're not my friend, suicide all you want
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>>338403801
Consoles.
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>>338403575

Christ, don't hurt yourself with that edge.
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>>338403881
Why is the cartoon man purposely obscuring the screen like that?

It only serves to add needless clutter to the screen
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>>338403575
Do you also believe the world isn't round?
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>>338404080
he has a big gun and he's not afraid to show it
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>>338381298
>>338381485
>>338397752
You guys do realize they sent a replacement entire figure to everyone, it was literally a recall
now i have 2 figures and i dont know what to do with it
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>>338385865
Being able to team-fight is a skill.
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>this feeling when i legitmately like this game and just wished it never had been labelled as a gearbox game, because now people shove it in with all the crap choices gearbox did and use BB as their own punching bag podium for revenge against gearbox.
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>>338404507
Indeed. It sucks.
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>>338404383
Congratulations.
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>>338404507
Don't worry about all the /v/ shitposting, anon. If the game's fun, then just enjoy it. I bought both BB and OW and I expect to enjoy both a lot.
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>>338375465
Is this a pasta?
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>>338404507
>implying Borderlands 3 is going to fix the shit stat scaling
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>>338400774
>>338401758
>>338402001
Is there a shit poster flow chart image? Because this is fucking it.
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>>338404624
Thanks, all in a day's work.
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>>338404507
But even without gearbox it'd be a bad game.
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>>338370693
Gearbox
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>>338402948
I can kill marquis in 5 punches with Attikus.
What the fuck are you doing wrong retard.
What you tried AIMING?
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>>338404756
Congratulations.
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http://www.kinguin.net/product/436384/battleborn-firstborn-pack-steam-cd-key/
24 euros
If you are even remotely interested in this game, you no longer have an excuse in not buying it.
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>>338404862
>You can kill squishy fucker in 5 hits

Are you trying to make a point for me? Because that's terrible.
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>>338404753
Shills are out in force today lol
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>>338405051
Retards are out in even bigger force, though
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>>338405018
Please don't do it. I did that and regret every penny.
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>>338404743
Wait what, i never even thought of such a thing.
>>338404625
>dont worry about /v/ shitposting.
>when that is literally all there is to /v/

>>338404780
Yes but they'd be bad games with likeable qualities, like most mp games. Itd have a small and stable community.
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>>338405127
No you didn't, fags like you have no money to begin with.
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>>338405130
>dont worry about /v/ shitposting.
>when that is literally all there is to /v/

Exactly why you shouldn't worry about. People here are contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
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>>338405204
Right.
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>>338370693
Well I just hate the character design. That nerdcore look they're going for just kinda rubs me in all the wrong ways. The marketing was annoying and the humor is borderlands. I don't like it, and I don't want anything to do with it. It doesn't matter if the gameplay is good, I don't like having my senses bombarded by garbage all the time.
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>>338405114
You're right, people who would defend this trash are retards AND shills.
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It's been awhile since I've done this /v/.
>tfw you will never ever be Anthony Burch
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>>338405432
You're such a fun person to be around, anon.
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>>338394256
see anon now nobody will take you seriously.
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Top kek, why is this game so goddamn ugly?
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Easy, really. Gearbox isn't as wealthy as Blizzard so they had no more money left after development to spend on shills and marketeers on the internets. Have you ever seen a Battleborn shill thread? Yeah, me neither.
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>>338375837
God i want to play it more but
>Those fucking wait times
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>>338405529
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>>338371451
This actually.

During this NBA playoffs both OW and BB ran pretty frequent commercials

Everyone in the gamethreads said battleborn looked like a discount overwatch
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>>338388701
Reminds me of Graves
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bggjl71csY
At least the prologue song isn't that bad...
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>>338388335
That's not concurrent players, anon. That's spread out over 5 days.
The average playtime for each person would need to have been 7 hours in order to match what CS:GO (which unlike the beta isn't free) gets on a daily bases long after its hype has died down.

7 hours might not seem like a lot to you, but a cross an entire playerbase it's extremely significant. Go take a look at the stats for games that have achievements for completing the first chapter. Portal 2 only records 70% of players as having completed the fucking opening sequence. Many other games are even under 50%. That means 50% of the people who played the game didn't even play long enough to make it through the first chapter. Some of them are even as low as 10%. And again, these are for games people paid money for. If you think a free game would have better numbers then you haven't given your argument much thought.
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>>338406029
Average playtime on overwatch beta was 8 hours iirc

Which would mean that it was bigger than CS:GO?

Of course, free beta with added hype would mean that it was likely much higher than normal, but still impressive for a new IP.
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