Why does Doom's SP feel crisp and clean, but the MP feels like some clunky bullshit from three gens past?
They even look different. I don't see how this is even possible. They actually look like completely different games
different teams
Gotta get that quick buck from them childrens, booy.
Peace in the middle east!
>>338350752
They weren't made by the same team.
Anybody else surprised that SP is good?
>>338350897
>Peace in the middle east
Guaranteed replies
>>338351091
yea, after watching my friend play im definitely getting this game eventually just for the campaign, the story seems really cool with all the fanservice, i was quite surprised
The multiplayer was outsourced to a dev that did CoD and Halo multiplayer modes. That's why.
>>338351091
I was very surprised. I expected nothing and got a really fun reboot of Doom.Still a bit iffy on the glory kill mechanic though.
>>338351091
>Anybody else surprised that SP is good?
Yeah, but it's good for reasons that should have translated into a fun MP: movement and shooting are responsive and fluid
>>338350752
MP is pretty fun.
Not very competitive, no rank or anything like that.
And snapmap looks very promising
>>338351145
You always have my back, anon.I would've gotten more if had posted the image
>tfw no doom
>>338350752
same reason Deus Ex is fucking amazing but the boss fights are moronic game breaking shit
outsourcing
>>338351334
really? i don't care for the movement at all, ledge grabbing is inconsistent and you get stuck on minor shit.
>>338350752
Actually the SP feels like it's from 2 gens past, especially with the Nintendo-like bosses. Not that that's bad.
>>338351630
patience my son.
i'm annoyed that weapons have alternative fire modes, because it's an id game.
am i autistic?
>>338353534
Yep
>>338353534
Just a little. I'm used to it because every fucking weapons mod for Doom 2 has alt fire.
>>338353534
If you've played enough Doom weapon mods that include shit like alt-fires and reloading, then it isn't too bad. It's just calling back to roots like so much in the game does.
Because the multiplayer team is the same team responsible for Halo 4 Multiplayer
>>338353534
'Fraid so. The alt fires were a nice touch - the trip-shot function on the basic shotty was satisfying as fuck.
It's definitely not classic Doom, but it's still a fucking great FPS.
My only gripe with this game, apart from the glory kills, the way it just looks like Quake 2-4. Imps, cacos and so are OK, but the guys with the red vertebrae and the grunts are just like stroggs. Everyone has this techy futuristic suit that is upgraded by strangely designed USBs, the knights from the end just got out from Quake, the double barreled shotgun is recycled from Fallout and Wolfenstein...
Heck, they even got the railgun (or something like that) into the game and the third weapon (the one that shoots blue balls) is just lacking an alternative lightning fire to be just like that one in Unreal Tournament.
Still... I guess I kind of enjoyed it. But the story made no sense.Was she a demon or something? Was she just brainwashed? Crazy?
Because instead of making quake live in the doom engine they outsourced it to former halo devs
>>338351630
> tfw Doom is 44GB and my download speed is 128KB/s
>>338354014
Story in a game is like story in porn its expected to be there but its not that important
>>338354014
id historically doesn't give a shit about differentiating their franchises. Take Quake 3/Live for example.
>>338354210
You're just plainly wrong.
Doom was about a near-future marine with realistic weaponry apart from just friggin' cool stuff (plasma weapons) battling demons in hell.
Quake was about a badass medieval grunt with epic weapons (although he got access to some crazy shit like grenade launchers and a ray casting weapon) killing fantastic creatures in a gritty and grim version of D&D.
They differentiate in everything, but the hud.
>>338353506
I cant. I want it now
>>338354207
>Story in a game is like story in porn its expected to be there but its not that important
You're right, but still, if you're gonna put it, you better answer those questions or give me a reason to fucking care when that plot tweeeest go by, even if it was obvious from the start.Seriously, why the fuck should I fucking care he's got a sword now?
>>338354678
I cared because DOOM Guy failed to realize the fact it was a massive fucking sword. I wanted to slice demons with that massive god damn thing when I saw Samuel turn it on.
>>338354678
Expanding on that last spoilerMaybe I should care because there is going to be a Doom 2 where I have to stop him and retrieve the sword? But why? I don't fucking care. I just got resurrected, I'm bloody fucking angry and got to curb stomp a fucking ton of shitty demons. I'm no fucking hero, I don't care if the UAC starts experimenting with hell energy again. They can do whatever they please, it won't make me any harm nor good letting them continue nor stopping them. A "revenge" theme for the next game would be sooo unnecesary.
>>338354831
I guess it's a way to look at it, yes. But I don't think that's the way the developers wanted that to be interpreted. But it doesn't make sense, keep your fucking sword, I'm good with the BFG.
Is DOOM's SP really that good.
Can you guys honestly recommend to me spending $60 on a good half of a half shit game?
>>338355427
I spent 30€ and kinda liked it. I don't know if it would have been the same for 60 or 70
>>338355427
You could always just rent it. You can beat the SP in a weekend.
>>338355427
The SP is really fucking fun, and it plays really well. As usual the main complaint is the glory kills, but the game is fast paced and fluid, it's pretty neat. Is it worth 60 for you? Thats up to you bruh.
>>338355427
Id/Bethesda usually are pretty generous with sales pretty fast so if you have the patience/self control to wait a few months to a year you could probably get it several times cheaper.
It's not like the multiplayer is worth a shit where you would want to play it while the community is at its peak.
>>338350752
Fuck off Dewey I'm killing demons.
I'll be honest, I'd unironically love the glory kill mechanic if the animations weren't just punches. Like eye gouging, spine ripping, and disembowelment.
Also what's with the bodies disappearing so quickly? I get its for performance and all, but those gibs and basic wounds are very detailed; let me at least have a second to appreciate them.
>>338355584
>playing an FPS on console
Why does Doomguy destroy argent energy, but save Vega?
>>338356294
Because we Halo now
>>338356278
Well if you wanna play it on PC right now, you gotta pony up 60 bucks cause of the piracy protection at the moment. You can always just wait for a sale too if the piracy protection doesn't get cracked anytime soon.
>>338354014
Why don't you read the datalogs and stop being a retarded faggot
>>338356294
Doomguy directs his anger where appropriate. VEGA didn't do anything wrong and helped him the whole time. Didn't even turn into an evil AI.
Who killed Doomguy's rabbit this game?
>>338356450
>pony up 60
>What is greenmangaming
>What is amazon
>What is g2a
>>338356450
What is g2a
>>338356450
>what is g2a
>>338356659
Olive Purse
>>338356659
Daisy is still dead from before. It's why he spent years killing demons in hell.
>>338356450
Or just pay $30-40 on a key site. There's literally no reason to rent it when you have to make it unplayable by using a controller anyway.
>>338350752
Fuck off shill, your game is shit.
>>338354542
>I haven't played quake E1 or Quake 3
>>338356516
I'm supposed to read that shit? What's this, pokemon?
>>338356929
It's actually pretty good. Don't be so bitter, faggot.
>>338353534
I was thinking about this, to be honest without the alt-fires, the weapons would get really old really quick, and every fight would feel like it becomes the same
things have come very far since the 90's in a lot of ways, you CAN'T do a 1:1 remake of doom at full price and expect it to be good
>>338356932
>I haven't played quake E1
Of course I did. And what part of the castle is the one so techy? The pool with the zombies? The yeti like creature in that pit? The knights with their swords? Or that fucking giant ass magic familiar at the end?
>>338356929
It's understandable that you feel that way with how they mishandled the marketing, but it's actually good.
>>338353938
I'm glad it's not classic doom. Not that there was anything wrong with it but we already HAVE classic Doom so nothing wrong with little change ups and updated graphics/animations to keep the game fresh
>>338357087
I don't know, the dudes with CHAINSAWS on their arms?
Or the grenade launcher?
>>338357135
Magic.
Also, one kind of enemy, and two rocket fueled weapons (you can also argue that a nail gun isn't medieval enough) doesn't invalidate the fact that the game has Cthuluesque themes and it's fantasy as shit. Castles, swords, magic. The only thing it lacks is a princess.
>>338351630
This.
I have no machine that is able to run it.
I don't see the problem with the multiplayer
It's typical of modern FPSes but that doesn't make it inherently bad. They could just get rid of Hack Modules and Demon Runes or add "Hardcore" modes where that stuff is disabled by default and it'd be fine
I kinda like the glory kill mechanic. It encourages you to get stuck in to a fight and not just snipe from 50 miles away.
>>338357361
It's literally Halo, it's fucking trash like all modern FPS multiplayer.
>>338357361
Post Carlton.
>>338357419
You mean it forces you to watch a brief cutscene to kill every enemy or waste ammo finishing them off for less reward. I'd have no problem if you could turn them off so you just melee'd the enemy and they died instead and it was mechanically identical. The animations are admittedly pretty short but when you pretty much have to watch them for EVERY ENEMY you don't kill in one hit it gets ridiculous.
>>338357361
>It's typical of modern FPSes but that doesn't make it inherently bad.
It's halo without any sort of map control. Run around the map and snatch up as much armor as possible or grab a super gun ever minute.
>D44M
>good in any way, shape, or form
wow, just how much is Bethesda spending on shills?
>>338357469
its literally Quake 3 Arena if the graphics weren't shit
>>338356294
he didn't destroy argent energy (physics dictates this to be impossible anyway), what he destroyed was the means to farm it, because it is hell energy, and by keeping that connection to hell, they risk being invaded and fucked AT ANY TIME
VEGA was 1) sentient (when he dies, he says to Hayden that he has regrets) 2) completely helpful, even when the plan required his sacrifice
doomguy is only mad at hayden for fucking around with hell energy, and demons because fuck hell
>>338357586
Yeah, it's Quake III except the graphics aren't shit, it's slow as fuck, it has a terrible upgrade system, all player models look fucking stupid because armor all looks like trash, the game plays like shit, it has some shitty loadout system, and it isn't remotely competitive sure.
>>338357582
(you)
>>338353252
That's a competence thing. I rarely get caught up on terrain and climbing is exactly as you expect it to be
>>338357664
is the quarter worth embarrassing yourself, even if it's anonymously?
>>338357639
>doomguy is only mad at hayden for fucking around with hell energy
[citation needed]
>>338357582
>I only watched the previews
>I haven't played the game
>I can't formulate my own opinion
Am I the only one that found the vertical platforming level annoying as fuck? The one where you have to be jumping all the fucking time across holes in the ceiling and shit. I don't know who designed that level, but it was clear from the first jump that Doom isn't made for first person jumping nor climbing.
Also,
>GREEN IS FOR CLIMBING. CLIMB ME. CLIMB ME.
>>338357805
Considering Doomguy's purpose is to expel demons from Hell, yeah, I'd be upset with someone making my job more difficult.
>>338357991
but if you expel demons from Hell then they'd go to Earth or Mars
>>338357947
>shilling
>>338357087
>what part of it was so techy
The first part? Retard?
Mutliplayer was made by ex-Bungie employees
>>338357991
>Considering Doomguy's purpose is to expel demons from Hell
[citation needed]
He's just curbing and stomping demons. Letting someone keep a doorway open to a infinite source of demons? I'd be pleased, not upset.
>>338357978
The green did get obnoxious, there are better ways of getting a player's attention and they went the lazy route.
>>338358104
keeping a portal to Hell open is why his bunny died, he's not gonna let other people lose loved ones
>>338358084
I'm having fun with D44m because I gave it a go.
You're not having fun because you listen to /v/ and spend your spare time shitposting in threads about a game I'm having fun playing.
Bad luck, buddy.
>>338358085
e1m1 techy? Seriously?
Also, one fucking level doesn't change the fact that all the fucking game is about fantasy
>>338351303
>The multiplayer was outsourced to a dev that did CoD and Halo multiplayer modes
Yeah, nobody ever plays CoD or Halo MP because they must suck...
>I-I think they suck
Sour grapes.
>>338354542
Actually Quake is a quite rare beast, if you look you will find soon enough lovecraftian touches here and there. Also you should get informed about quake because that's not a medieval guy at all, but a future guy and then portals happen.
>>338357087
Remember when this game came out and everyone thought this game might as well have been called Doom 3? Oh wait, you weren't alive then.
>>338358338
They do suck, casual consolefags eat that shit up because it's slow-paced enough for a controller but it's shit compared to actual competitive shooters, even boring ones like Counter Strike
>>338357582
People are liking a game thats getting universal praise and your response is that they are shills.
You are a complete faggot.
>>338358252
good work, you're up to 50 cents now in your bank!
>>338358338
>Also you should get informed about quake because that's not a medieval guy at all, but a future guy and then portals happen
Well, maybe. But he's going through fantasy realms with magic, knights and shit, nigga.
>>338358408
>They suck because they're not arena shooters.
You don't say.
Street fighter sucks because it's not an anime fighter.
Puzzle Bobble sucks because it's not tetris.
Final fight sucks because it's not Cadillacs and Dinosaurs...
>>338358460
>universal praise
Gone Home and Uncharted did too, shill.
>>338358518
Yep, it's the future, portals happen and he has to face that shit, also, as I said, lovecraftian themes.
They should totally retake this formula.
>>338358363
>everyone thought
>I thought, so everyone must thought the same
No one thought that in my circle of friends and the BBS I dwelled by. Try harder, kiddo
crack when
>>338358564
Go outside Australia
>>338358564
Uncharted is a legit good game, Gone Home only received praise from actual people who wanted to shill it to defend their interest, this is not universal praise.
https://youtu.be/ArEULrpYqqI
picked up
>>338358508
Christ, kid.
>>338350752
fucking bethesda shills all over itt esemaych teebeeaych
>>338356278
it literally doesnt even matter. so long as developers make FPS for consoles first, the movement system will always be trash. why do you think "cover shooters" became a thing. Because of consoles. Doom and Quake had interesting movement. Even today DOOM has more advanced movement mechanics, because of sr50, than any other FPS out today. Same with quake and bunnyhopping. With consoles you can't do sick movement like that. So what do you? Make the games slow as fuck and the enemies retarded. How do you make that interesting? Throw in some dumbass cover mechanic. Hell they did away with level design completely for years in favor of MUH TRIPLE AAA STORY HALLWAY SIMULATOR because consoles and faggots literally can't handle that shit.
Advanced movement is what its all about and its something these console babies will never be able to grasp because they are casual trash.
>doom-4-3dm-crack.silk.co/
So is this legit or just some bullshit?
>>338358651
Just buy it, it's worth it
>>338358783
Looks legit
>>338358607
>it's the future
Maybe, but you cannot think seriously that levels like this one are in the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QlZgXcSuXQ
And all Quake is that way. Maybe the main character comes from the future, but he's going through fantasy zones.
>>338358752
>why do you think "cover shooters" became a thing
Because Gears of War was legit fun, cooperatively and online.
Then they fucked that up.
>>338358910
Those levels take place in another universe, though.
Anybody got a dl link to the OST? I heard it's the bee's knees.
>>338357805
both interactions with Hayden prior to the title screen show that doomguy was willing to listen to him until he finds out that Hayden was in charge of the facility and INTENTIONALLY harvested hell energy, then he disregards him anytime they don't meet face-to face (throws the monitor against the wall, punches the fuck out of the elevator panel)
>>338359097
>Those levels
You surely meant to say "Almost all levels", don't you?
>>338359247
>both interactions with Hayden prior to the title screen show that doomguy was willing to listen to him
So that's why you smash the tv at the beginning and the game has to strip your guns down in the office so you don't kill him like you did to anything else? That's a weak excuse.
>>338359370
Yeah, every level that takes place in Quake takes place in Quake.
>>338358910
Anon, play the fucking game, you literally cross portals to go to these places. (You even cross portals to choose how hard the game will be, even hidden portals for the hardest difficulty).
>>338359370
Hayden has a use, in the sense that he knows much more about the teleport technology and about how HIS base operates (for instance doomguy never would have figured out that blowing VEGA could help him close the hell portal), so doomguy can't kill him just for being a fucking idiot, but that doesn't mean he has to treat him well
the end of the game would be the final straw though, that shows that Hayden is unrepentant of his actions and is willing to make that risk again
side note: has doomguy ever canonically killed a sentient human? would hayden be the first non demon-corrupted enemy he would kill?
>>338359456
>you literally cross portals to go to these places
I don't deny that. I'm just saying that every Quake level is based off a fantasy setting with Cthulhuesque themes. Therefore, it was really different from Doom back in the day.
Then Quake 2 came, the Strogg came, and Doom 2016 is now doing the same thing Quakeifyng the franchise
>>338353534
Yes, the alt-fire modes do nothing but add to the game. I get a real kick out of switching through weapons and blasting away with everything I've got.
>That heavy machine gun mini-rocket launcher
>Plasma burst
>Lock-on rocket targeting
>Fucking mobile gatling turret rape mode
It's fucking stronk.
>>338357582
>>338351091
I honestly expected it to be a piece of shit, but then tried it from family share, and was pleasantly surprised. Finish SP in like 2 days.
>>338359718
>Hayden has a use
What? Hayden does say that he's using you. So Doomguy is dumb enough to kill and destroy everything in sight but smart enough to think "let's let this plated ass use me so I can use him later"? It just doesn't hold up, sorry.
Also, for the side note, I guess the cannon fodder from this game and the pistol/shotgun zombies from Doom 1 and 2 count as sentient humans, so... also, although he doesn't actually do ithe was totally after Olivia Pierce
>>338355427
Wait for it to drop, unless you really want some great SP action right now.
>>338358910
>open video
>HEY EVERYBODY
>close video
fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC4Xp0F8law
>>338351234
What it lacks is romance/boobs and some deeper emotional connection between main characters. There is also too much unjustified violence but otherwise it is a good game, first 2 levels are insane.
>>338355051
[Spoiler] Doomguy hates hell and everything related to hell. Beep boop man stole a hell toy and will open portals to hell. He must be ripped and torn. [/Spoiler]
>>338360008
>What? Hayden does say that he's using you.
doomguy probably thought he was bluffing, and he could out-ruse him
for instance, shutting down the argent tower, doomguy used hayden to guide him to the filters, and hayden thought doomguy would remove them, but he just smashed the fuck out of them, making them completely unusable for the future
>>338360156
>open video
>ayeverybodywelcomebacktonorthernlionplaysthebindingofisaac
>>338360262
>He must be ripped and torn
But that's not a logical conclusion. It's not like he's he one in charge of hell. It's not like hell is gonna disappear if he kills him. Revenge is unjustified, as much as him "imprisoning" DG at the end.
>>338360317
>but he just smashed the fuck out of them
Because his only goal is to rip and tear everything he comes across. He has no ulterior motive. He's just angry and destructive. Stop trying to make a hero out of a psycho, he is not one and he doesn't need to be one.
>mess around with snapmap for the first time
>spend like 5 hours perfecting my stupid map
>scores of people just uploading a blank tile for the achievement
does anyone actually care
>>338360413
He is going to turn into a Cyberdemon in a DLC and then there will be no issue about riping and tearing him.
>>338360413
>Next game doesn't have you stop him
>It has you teaming up with him
>You get to play as him in coop and use that huge fucking sword
>>338355427
>Is DOOM's SP really that good.
its decent
but its not worth full price
it lacks replayability, the story is fucking shit and ends on a cliffhanger
and the game is so piss fuck easy you can tell it was designed for console users
all unlockable secrets give resident evil type of models to view in 3d, nothing more, and all of them are easy to find in your first run
bonus oldschool levels are shit and not worth your time
rune challenges are a handful of short 15-90 second time trials you will do once and never touch again
game suffers also from lack of any balance, some weapons are better while other are pure trash, starting pistol feels like a joke, and gauss gun is the weapon you will probably use 24/7 late game as it 1 shoots everything and never runs out of ammo
some runes are broken, you will get one that gives infinite ammo next to one that allows you to make executions like 5% faster
everybody talked about multi already, its just awful in every way possible, 0 balance, forced few minute breaks between matches that can last not much longer, broken op demon runes and buffs, half of weapons do no damage and overlap in how they work, everybody just run chaingun shotty
hack modules, like ones that allow you too see through walls are the icing on teh cake
interface and ui, extremely short match games make it impossible to create a stable community
snapmap entries so far are simplistic jokes you would expect from someone who first touched and games sdk, tool feels limited and aimed 100% at console community
overall it feels like budget game, at 30$ i would maybe recommend it, but at 60$ its a fucking insult they want that much from you
>>338360517
it's been a week. community-driven content takes months before anything worth mentioning comes out
Custom Games in DotA 2 were garbage when Reborn first came out, everyone just played 10v10 and Overthrow
>>338355569
>30€
>less than 60 U.S.
Last time I was there it was more than sixty. What the fuck did you guys do to your money?
>>338358634
>I was in middle school then or the BBS's I browsed sucked ass
>>338360490
>Stop trying to make a hero out of a psycho, he is not one and he doesn't need to be one.
>He backs up VEGA when he gains nothing from it
>>338360008
Personally I'd say Doomguy doesn't harm Hayden because he's human, not a demon. Hayden's a stubborn idiot asshole, but he's not evil.
>>338360579That would be pretty cool.
>>338360490
>He's just angry and destructive
so why did he back up VEGA? it didn't benefit him at all, and he would probably never see VEGA again
and why did he save the human space-ark in doom 2?
I don't know why you think he has to be completely psychotic or a paragon of justice; you can be a friend to your allies and an absolute cunt to your enemies at the same time
>>338360579
Still unnecesary, because there is nothing I find more hateful that having to wait for an AI partner in a FPS, but... fun. I guess I should try it before judging it.
>>338360704
It's the equivalent to $30. But yeah, at this rate, buying american shit with euros is like being a millionaire.
>>338360712
>I'm out of reasons so let's try projecting my case and insecurities into her!
>>338360748
>He backs up VEGA when he gains nothing from it
As I said earlier
>Because we Halo now
Also, he spends the entire game collecting those USBs from corpses, why not grabbing that last one too?
>Personally I'd say Doomguy doesn't harm Hayden because he's human, not a demon
Now that's more feasible than the "I'll let him use me to use him later" plot
>>338358679
ost of this game in general is awesome but some tracks are just too crowded with noises and instruments. wish they kept it a bit simpler t.bh
>>338361579
that tracks not even in the game
>>338360413
Doomguy is not a very logical person.
>>338351091
I feel like saying that it is "good" is WAAAAAY underselling the SP campaign. "Good" doesn't even begin to describe it, this is like a perfect translation of bringing old-school Doom into the modern era.
>>338361741
what i meant was in general to all tracks in the game though. some of them are absolutely awesome and some of them are underwhelming.
>>338359736
How is Doom 2016 "Quakeifying" the franchise? They didn't make any changes in design or setting, the just updated it all. We're still fighting the same Hell demons, just better looking versions. We're still on Mars, just a better looking version. We're still in Hell, just a better looking version. It isn't like Doom 2016 is rewriting the franchise the same way Quake 2 rewrote the original Quake game.
Why is there no achievement for finishing the game on Ultra Nightmare?
>>338362023
I disagree 100%.
The nu-Doom is yet anothet butchered reboots that try to be cool and modern, totally disrespecting the OG titles.
Some morons just have let their standards drop so slow, that any game without regen HP and 2 gun limits is instant GOTY.
Serious Sam 3 has been the ONLY actually successful modern sequel to classic shooter, staying very true to its roots.
>tfw Croteam confirmed more SS being in works yesterday
>>338362241
>muh cheevos
Kill.Self
>>338362402
>spending time doing something for no reward
>>338362467
Yes, that is video games
And life
>>338362546
>achievements aren't awards
literal retard
>>338362650
re*wards
And yes, they are worth nothing
>>338354542
>Quake was about a badass medieval grunt
>medieval
Learn about the game before you post about it. Or simply hang yourself.
>>338362812
>worth nothing
Literally awarded an achievement for accomplishing a task within a game
you're fucking retarded if you think the only things with "worth" are monetary.
If you think nothing is worth anything, why even play games in the first place? You should probably just kill yourself since nothing has value in your life.
>>338363078
>instantly assumed "worth" meant money
Oh ho ho, spotted the child.
>>338363124
Go on then, what did you actually mean. Since you just got your shit pushed in. I'll wait for your shitty reply
Face it faggot, Achievements are optional challenges that are nice badges on your account. Not being rewarded with an achievement makes it less interesting.
>>338362391
Well, feel free to disagree, but you're wrong. What exactly did they butcher? The monsters look like appropriate updates of the originals (eh... minus the Cyberdemon). The levels are big, filled with secrets, non-linear, and packed with enemies. The music is thumping, the storyline is Doom-enough without outright copying the typical teleporter-gone-wrong schtick. All the guns are there, and they are more fun than ever with their mods and the ability to upgrade their effectiveness. Where did they butcher this, and where did they fail to stay true to the series' roots, because I'm not seeing it.
>>338351091
I actually watched all SP content and story from videos. Tempted to buy this, because it looks great.
>>338355427
The fact that so many of you are talking about the sp as if it were an add on and no the real game is why we can't have nice things. This is why games suck. Why tale time to make a campaign when all the drooling retards will just eat up multi-player over and over again. Hell, it's become such a malignant cancer that the doom devs had to throw in this afterthought multi-player because a game without multi-player is just untenable to younpeople
>>338363228
How does it make it less interesting? I just finished upgrading the Praetor armor. I got an achievement for it. How is this more interesting? They're giving me a virtual pat on the back for something that was going to happen through the course of playing the game. I didn't do anything special, and that is the case with most achievements: you're being rewarded for fucking mundane shit that is just going to happen through the course of playing the game.
The problem with the MP is you can spawn with whatever weapon you want so the maps all play the exact same. I cant lie though, when im actually playing it and not criticizing it, it plays ok and is enjoyable.
>>338363613
>look at this easy achievement, achievements are pointless
You're a fucking clown. Obviously finishing the game on ultra nightmare is an achievement, doing easy shit and getting achievements is fucking retarded
>>338354014
No the Super Shotgun is straight out of Doom you fucking retard
>>338363476
We're not talking about the SP as if it were an add-on, we're talking about it like it is a completely different experience than the multiplayer, which it is.
>>338363668
>that feel when you gib someone with an up close Super Shotgun blast
>then dance on their corpse
>>338363735
So you recognize the magnitude of beating Ultra Nightmare, even though the game doesn't give you a virtual pat on the back? What's the big fucking deal then? Prior to the original XBox, achievements didn't exist at all. Did you just not have a sense of accomplishment before that?
>>338362220
Let it go. He's just too stupid to figure out that you can't have an foster in 2016 that has bothe good graphics and 2nd sprites
I'll never understand all the people who want a carbon copy and claI'm it's a great shooter but not a doom game. Boy are they in for a shock when the find out about doom 3
>>338363401
-RPG elements
-platforming
-cinematic shit that halts game play
-checkpoints
-reliance on Glory Kills / chainsaw for supplies
-totally inconsistent and plain ugly art-directing. Half the stuff looks out of place and/or over designed.
-crap weapon sounds.
-those fucking "combat arenas". Next to no preexisting mpnsters on maps.
-all that handholding
-MP+SnapMap are shit.
>>338350752
They should have done same as Wolfenstein New Order did. Focus to single player only and leave mp out completely. I'm glad this still ended up having great sp experience.
where the fuck is the crack, I want to play this shit
>>338360185
Either very hard troll or you have no idea wtf you're talking about and are stuck in modern Hollywood affected media.
>>338363992
>-RPG elements
Which made the game better and improved replayability.
>-platforming
Yeah, that sort of thing happens when you take a game like the original Doom and add JUMPING.
>-cinematic shit that halts game play
Uhhh... barely?
>-checkpoints
Play Ultra Nightmare.
>-reliance on Glory Kills / chainsaw for supplies
As opposed to just putting tons of ammo in the level?
>-totally inconsistent and plain ugly art-directing. Half the stuff looks out of place and/or over designed.
At this point, you literally don't know what you're talking about. Really, hell demons from an alternate dimension look out of place in a technologically advanced Martian research center? Please, tell me more.
>-crap weapon sounds.
They sound like weapons...
>-those fucking "combat arenas". Next to no preexisting mpnsters on maps.
Well, you're not entirely wrong about this one.
>-all that handholding
Turn off tutorials.
>-MP+SnapMap are shit.
Agreed.
>>338351349
>And snapmap looks very promising
Maybe for consoles. Snapmap is shit with the limitations it has, if we could get some proper tools we'd be able to make far better levels and perhaps even have it reach some of the popularity of doom wads
>>338362220
See
>>338354014
>>338362989
Yeah, of course, because mistaking a medieval suited rude man with a fucking helmet with a medieval grunt is nonsense
>>338350752
>crisp
good joke
>clean
Clean in how clinically boring it is.
>>338364439
>RPG elements
>improving anything
I hate the modern Far Cry audience with passion now.
> jumping
Douk, Blood, and Quake got jumping, and they didn't make you scale a fucking tower for 10 minutes.
> uh... barely
every 3 deconds = barely?
> play like this n that, disable half the game, etc, to make it bearable!
Sign of shitty modern "games". I would expect to get the optimal experience without self-inposed challenges or plain pretending.
> putting tons of ammo on lwvel?
Doom and such used to have a strict but sufficient supply economy, which was tested by devs before release. D44M does not.
> dont know what you're talking about
yeah, most casual consolikids know jack shit about designing games or art. The visual design of the game is inconsistent and ugly.
> they sound like weapons
no, they don't. They're literally weak-ass "pew pew!" and "pow!" In D4.
> turn off tutorials
wont shut up the robodude or mission reminders, compass, itemshimmer...etc.
>>338357754
I guess even that would be less pathetic than you embarrassing yourself over and over again on a fucking image board
>>338357582
I didn't like nuDoom, but since fucking when everybody else who liked it is a shill? Someone explain this cancerous /v/ parroting.
>>338357582
SHILL YR A SHILL, SHILL, STOP SHILLING YOU FUCKING SHILL
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So what do people think of Doomguy in Doom 4?
>>338366236
Doomguy/10
>>338354542
>Quake was about a badass medieval grunt with epic weapons
that was the intent, but because carmack was an incabaple piece of shit and too lazy to create a good engine that would support hack-n-slash mechanics, it was scrapped for yet another doom clone.
>>338366887
>but because carmack was an incabaple piece of shit and too lazy to create a good engine that would support hack-n-slash mechanics
100% not the reason.
2/10 I replied.
>>338366236
Literally an edgelord brother of Master Chief
>>338367270
So, Doomguy?
>>338351303
>>338358338
CA didn't do the modes, they did map packs, mainly for Halo.
>>338359172
bumping
I get that the SP outshines the MP but do you guys seriously think it's that bad?
It sure as hell isn't some super competitive game like Quake was but it's still a lot of fun aside from those bullshit demons. Am I literally the only person to think that way?
>>338365432
>"pew pew"
>Super Shotgun makes a loud ass BOOM
go get yourself some nice headphones you fucking poorfag
>>338357582
>people enjoy a new game
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
I know most of it is just shitposting, but I think some anons are being genuine, which is fucking pathetic.
>arrow to the knee meme
I LOLED irl so hard when ive seen this. Epic.
i enjoy the MP
its not that great yes, but still fun
>>338363228
Holy fuck you're pathetic, NOBODY will look at your achievements ever, nobody will give a fuck about them, and if it's just for you, then you don't even need it, since you know if you completed some retarded challenge or not. Fuck, and I thought I was a fucking nerd.
>>338367945
I got a nice 2.1 sound set with 15 inch speakers, and the audio effects are just tame as fuck.
