This will be the year, r-right guys?
>>338275113
"Hey remember all thoose titles stuck in development hell, remember how good they allways turn out?"
Yeah no, its going to be shit.
>>338275113
No. First they gotta make DotA3, then they gotta make CS4, then they gotta make more hats, then they gotta make portal 3.
HL3 will only happen when Steam starts to fail. HL2 was made on the success of HL1, it's purpose was to start people using steam, that was it. It worked, so no HL3.
Not this year. But it is coming really soon.
Nah, Valve won't release Half-Life 3 until they start hemorrhaging money or their profits plummet,, and that's never going to happen because they make money by doing literally nothing with the item marketplace.
It's their tump card.
https://youtu.be/Jt0w9YP_wZ0
Have you accepted the fact that Valve is now entirely self-sufficient on Steam and microtransactions and that Episode 3/HL3 is never, ever EVER happening?
>it's been 10 years since episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt0w9YP_wZ0
>>338275227
This game has been in development hell for nearly 8 years. Go fuck yourself.
>>338276780
It also got scrapped entirely. The DOOM we got is not DOOM 4.
>>338276780
restarted development in 2011
Get it through your thick skulls, HL3 is NOT coming out. Valve is making so much money selling other people's games and cosmetics it would actually be a waste of money for them to make HL3 and Valve is so money grubbing that they don't want to do that
>>338277129
Eveyone knows that, OP seems to be the only one that doesn't.
We live in a world where Duke Nukem Forever came out 5 YEARS AGO, and where Kingdom Hearts 3, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and the goddamn FF7 Remake are actual things that are happening
and we STILL have nothing on Half Life 3
It's dead, Jim
>>338275426
HL3 will be a VR exclusive and will make people want to the the vive
Seeing how the right logo was finally posted, probably.
Most of the underages here don't really understand the concept of development hell and how problems in development can make a game shit, people like to use Duke Nukem Forever as an example even though they've got no idea of how the development of that game came to be.
Same thing applies to Episode 3 / Half-Life 3, go back and listen to the developer commentary track in Episode 2, Episode 3 was right around the corner, same for the spin-off nicknamed "Episode 4", which was being developed by Arkane Studios. We probably would have seen Episode 3 by 2008-2009 if the "change of plans" hadn't happened at Valve and they hadn't cancelled the Arkane spin-off.
Did everyone just forget those script files found in the Dota client?
>>338275227
>remembering how that happens with every valve game
They all turned out great
>>338277690
I don't think they'd release it when the Vive is still in it's infancy. They'd more likely wait until it's much more refined.
>>338276893
whos to say the same wont happen/has already been done with hl?
Probably coming out or being announced next year to coincide with the ten year anniversary of episode 2.
I genuinely feel that the want for another Half-Life title is low. It's just a joke now. If it were to ever come out it'd be subpar to all the years of hype and waiting. Valve waited way too long.
>>338276893
I wish they would release the build they had for Doom 4 for free. I'm curious to see how that would have been.
The real question is why should Valve spend a retarded amount of time and money developing a game like Half-Life 3, when they can just create a digital book, with some cosmetics and other flashy, insignificant features, that can generate insane amounts of money without the developmental cost/time that would be required for a full game?
>>338278668
They literally called it Call of DOOM in-house, you do not want it.
>>338277665
We also live in a time where Doom 4 came out and it turned out good, what a time to be alive.
>>338279027
>We also live in a time where Doom 4 came out
It didn't, it's a different game entirely.
Gaben is the GRRM of gaming
>>338277743
After 2011-2012 they slowly started to despise people who really liked what they did with Half-Life and Portal. And I think it was last year a few of their employees decided to pull a prank on the fans by making a red-herring ARG during one of the sales, basically joining in on the "pretentious douchebag or straight up asshole" wave of the late 2010's.
half-life and half-life 2 were released 6 years apart
9 years isn't that much longer
whats the likelihood that they were waiting for Source 2 and the Vive to start actual development?
>mfw I have literally designed the entire game on my head by casual daydreaming
>Every level, every dialog, every weapon placement
I'm not sure I even want it to come out since the version in my head is perfect.
>>338279481
I think they're waiting for the Vive to lower in price, they know no one's going to spend $600 to play one game.
>>338279481
No reason to wait for Source 2 to start devving since it's mostly the same engine, there is no difference when it comes to scripting. A "new engine" doesn't mean they throw everything out, it's much more incremental than that. You could consider the Portal 2 engine a "new engine" compared to HL2's, for example. Obviously they'd have to wait for it to be finished before finishing the game, but they could start working on it much earlier.
As for Vive Chet said last year the game wouldn't be VR, though that could of course change if the game stays in development for several more years.
>>338279705
the VR will be optional though hopefully, just makes the game a lot better
>>338279705
This and the Vive needs more games supporting it
>>338275113
No, we need L4D3 first.
>>338279703
Dude, maybe you should send a proposal to valve. You could be the lead writer.
>>338279481
You're really, really slow if you still have not understood that they've been developing this over a large period of time. This current incarnation probably has been developed since 2013, or whenever VR headgear started getting a buzz and Valve decided to get into that, if we can take any of the "leaked" code files found in DOTA 2, the game is going to be very different from anything we've seen in a HL game before, supposedly with a hint of an open world and quests, it's obviously going to be using VR.
>>338275113
I can only hope, imagine them closing the lights, and then they open them and show Gaben on the scene, it's gonna be a pop like The Rock or Stone Cold just returned in the Attitude Era
>>338279760
What's the state of VR support for the other Half-Life games?
>Valve
>In charge of a story and not crowd sourcing a project to death
Literally, why even bother with caring. Half Life 2, especially the episodes, were mediocre as fuck.
>>338279913
I have not tested it since I don't own VR gear but every HL2 game has a "VR support" checkbox in the settings. You could probably find a video on youtube.
>>338277690
nah, valve said hl3 won't be a vr game
>>338279837
>not Ricochet 2
>not realizing Valve will release a box containing HL3, TF3, L4D3, Dota 3, Ricochet 3, Counter-Strike 3 and Portal 3
>>338280058
>le edgy contrarian opinion meme
just commit suicide
>>338280127
it seems pretty safe to assume that hl3 would probably have some sort of support for vr then
>>338280164
But CS:GO is already the third game in the series.
>>338280225
Yes, I mean Valve has been pushing VR a lot lately, if Half-Life 3 ever comes out, it will have VR support, maybe.
>>338280332
that's like saying Condition Zero counts as CS2
>>338280164
They're never releasing as many games as they did on the Orange Box ever again.
>>338279478
This. Valve is just one of those companies with really long development cycles. I think the reason it got delayed so long is because they went from doing just another episode to an entire new game.
>>338280225
Eh, I don't know. I think it's going to include support for VR headsets, but it wont be a "VR game". If you look at current VR games none of them have a good enough movement system for a game with the scope of the HL games. There's no way they're going to use that lame teleportation system from the lab for an HL game.
>>338280332
Source doesn't count just like Half-Life: Source doesn't count.
>>338280198
Kid, I'm not the one using the "contrarian opinion meme" meme.
HL2 has objectively weak pacing, terrible plot, laughable characters, and mediocre game play. I couldn't get through episode 2 because it was just so fucking repetitive.
>>338275113
I can't imagine the shitstorm after this shit really happens. I can't imagine what happens to /v/. I can't imagine all the huge uproar of internet videos and craziness. I just can't. It would be too much for the internet to handle. It would be like... the creation of a new age sort of like Jesus is the point of BC to AD.
>>338280605
could it be the best selling game ever if it's actually good?
What about fallout 5, guys? Maybe it'll be in minnesota? Or china?
>>338280591
>kid
wew lad
Trying to fit in a little too hard on the 4chans.
Anyone like the idea of there being some sort of portal gun on the Borealis?
>>338280539
What wishful thinking. This is the same company that regretted Portal 2 for not having enough means of inserting lucrative micro-transactions.
>>338280605
I wonder how the fuck they're even going to market the game before release. I just can't even imagine what it looks like. How do they even announce it? It seems like one day it'll just be there on the Steam frontpage.
>>338280591
name a better FPS that came out in 2004
>>338280739
It would be like an atom bomb. It would affect everyone. It would change the internet as we know it.
>>338280783
when have has valve ever even hinted at this?
>>338280813
Anything but FUCKING HALF LIFE 2
>>338280739
No, most people don't give a shit about Half Life. It's just a meme now like Duke Nukem Forever was.
>>338280849
They said when Portal 2 released that in the future it was unlikely they'd do "pure singleplayer games" which to a lot of people seems to mean "we're only doing Dota and CS from now on".
>>338280898
not an answer retard
>>338280819
Hmm atom bombs... You guys think fallout 5 wilk be good right? You guys gonna pre-order?
>>338280948
I think they probably just mean that their games would have multiplayer (like every half-life) or co-op features
>>338280813
JFK: Reloaded
>>338280904
>>338280898
>>338280591
Its not a meme. The game had perfect pacing. The game had super believable natural looking characters. Nothing put you into the character better than HL2. Fuck you shitposters. You either have not played the series or not played long enough to see the holyshitfuck that cliffhanger ending.
Fuck you. It ain't even funny. Fuck you.
>>338280948
HL3 would obviously have a Deathmatch with weapon skins and shit
>>338280813
Riddick.
>>338280948
Half-Life was never a pure single player game, it always had a multiplayer component.
Hmm... Deathmatch... You guys think deathmatch would be good in fallout?
>>338281079
I've played HL since the first game but I'm not deluded enough to think the modern market cares nearly as much about HL3 as you think it does. HL3 is genuinely just a meme to a lot of people.
>>338281110
>>338281059
>>338281202
Yeah I know, I'm not upset about them saying that. I just remember a lot of people shitting themselves when that was first posted.
>>338280819
>>338280605
I wish these underages would stop posting this stupid over-reaction meme.
>>338280948
Aren't you doing a little wishful thinking yourself? They never said anything about not having enough micro-transactions in Portal 2, they even said that Portal 2 was a good example of how they are going to do single-player games in the future.
http://www.giantbomb.com/valve-corporation/3010-1374/forums/valve-clarifies-last-single-player-game-statement-494753/
>>338281246
Yeah it is just a meme to a lot of people but they still have a huge fan base. Same exact deal with Portal.
I don't even fucking care anymore.
And I know everyone's just gonna say shit like
>Yeah, you say that now but if they announced it you'd go back to being hyped.
You can claim that all you want but I wouldn't.
The story has been ignored for so long all tension is gone and I don't even care what happens anymore. As far as I'm concerned they may as well have pulled a Sopranos 'cut to black ending' and ep2 was it.
Then, from a gameplay standpoint, what made HL2 so magical was, for the time, the physics puzzles were innovative and the game looked great.
Nowadays, physics puzzles aren't anything special and i doubt the graphics would surpass anything we havent seen already.
No matter what direction they take the story, of how they'd change the gameplay it could NEVER live up to all the speculations and expectations people would have for it.
They sat on it for way too fucking long, they were really lazy and unprofessional and now it's all fucked.
They make hats now. Get over it.
>>338281395
HL1 was popular without the physics gimmick. The franchise never hinged on that.
>>338281320
No. I am legit that excited to see a half life 3 release. the cliffhanger too big and I want to see what the fuck those worm bean things are and I want to see what they can do. I want to see the borealis and how it all ties together. I really really want to see it.
They're releasing a new engine. Please hl3 please?
>“So, if somebody becomes the group manager of X, they’re going to really resist it when X is not what you want to do in the next round of games. You don’t want them to sort of burrow into that — you want them to recognize that being really good at Half-Life level design is not as nearly as valued as thinking of how to design social multi-player experiences. You’ve had them feel like they have an organization and title tied up to something when the key is to just continue to follow where the customers are leading.”
lol
Thing is, would half life sell? I reckon it could, there's always a market for nostalgia and Half Life 3 would make a fuckton of cash. It'll come out, but Valve don't want to generate hype too early out of fear that it'll just turn out a disaster
>>338281395
>get over it
>AHUH!
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-closure
Here we go, let's make it official, even though the story seems to have been written by a child.
>>338281395
This is an 18+ website.
>>338281640
That looks really bad.
>>338275113
I just want the engine and the mods.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lZNEXw0_KJHe9aSnPn4ioSvTmeENKuxRl0DnxZcy_5M/edit
>>338281586
>>338281665
Good arguments.
didn't Naughty Dog say they would make it if Valve didn't want to and let them?
>>338280849
>"But you know if you want to do another Half-Life game and you want to ignore everything we've learned in shipping Portal 2 and in shipping all the updates on the multiplayer side, that seems like a bad choice. So we'll keep moving forward. But that doesn't necessarily always mean what people are worried that it might mean."
i.e.
>We couldn't milk shit from Portal 2 and don't want to do another game like that until we can figure out how to turn it into a constant revenue source
>>338281996
>i misinterpret everything so i can use it for my own, badly formed, arguments
Nice one.
>>338281914
Doesn't the Dota 2 SDK basically give you access to Source 2 already?
>>338282185
What's there to misinterpret? The only thing that's really applicable from Portal 2 was their failure of a cash shop in the multiplayer mode.
>>338277665
/thread
They need to figure out a way they can make it free to play with tons of forced microtransactions, then theyll release it.
>>338280164
>Ricochet
Ut was a shit game anon.
>>338281963
You've given up hope that Valve is ever going to release an interesting single-player game again, that was your whole point, there's no argument to be made that can possibly turn your underage self from the malformed view that you set your mind to.
>>338282487
It*
>>338275113
No, nor will it be any other year. HL3 is dead.
>>338282425
They'll release a barebones FPS title, let people make their own maps and mission for it, monetize it all through a revival of their paid mods plan and use the deus ex machina known as G-Man to pull a "all wads are canon" like Doom did.
>>338282406
What are you talking about? The in-game shop was barely thought about and was put there to customize the two playable characters, there were other updates, like the "sequel" for the original co-op campaing and a bunch of other test chamber creation updates.
>>338282723
valve isn't bethesda
>>338282425
>>338282723
It's like you people never played Portal 2.
>>338282231
It gives you access to Dota 2 modding. Basically what you can already do in Source 1 games (custom maps, skins, etc.)
I'd jump on it, but I have no interest in ass faggots. Literally any FPS game Valve has and I'd mod the fuck out of it.
The engine itself will be released eventually which is also cool.
>>338282819
You're right, Bethesda still makes games.
>>338282742
That's what they've learned, make the microtransactions more important. The Portal 2 updates didn't generate the revenue and longevity than their microtransactionfest games have. That's what they can't ignore when making a future Half Life title.
>>338275113
They're waiting for Nintendo to reveal the NX
>>338276660
>>338276685
>August 2008
>I'm not saying anything about Episode 3
>August 2011
>oh boy it's time for that question again
They gotta make a third entry for something at some point
>>338282921
It's probably coming out with whatever is the next game Valve churns out, have they actually released the Vive and the Steam Box console thing and controller? We'll probably hear something about it once those are all out, maybe on E3.
>>338283097
You're ignoring everything else that there was in the multiplayer component of Portal 2 to whine about the cosmetics shop. You have to know what the game will look like and if it will even have a multiplayer component before you cry your heart out about those.
>>338283137
>had a 10minute talk with Gabe Newell at TI5 last year
>didn't ask about Half Life 3
Did I do right? As we all know everyone on the internet "lies".
Doctor Kleiner is the main villain
>>338283542
>You're ignoring everything else that there was in the multiplayer component of Portal 2 to whine about the cosmetics shop.
It can be ignored because it doesn't apply. It's pretty obvious in context what they're getting at
>"The only reason we'd go back and do like a super classic kind of product is if a whole bunch of people just internally at Valve said they wanted to do it and had a reasonable explanation for why [they did]," he said.
>"But you know if you want to do another Half-Life game and you want to ignore everything we've learned in shipping Portal 2 and in shipping all the updates on the multiplayer side, that seems like a bad choice. So we'll keep moving forward. But that doesn't necessarily always mean what people are worried that it might mean."
More "social integration" is in their games is what they're looking for, and it doesn't take a genius to see the obvious reason why a business would want that.
>>338283856
>Kleiner wants to use what ever is in the Borealis
>Alyx wants to destroy it like Eli did
he actually could be an antagonist
>>338283760
or maybe you're just a little bitch and too scared to anger him.
>>338281395
This. I don't give a shit anymore because it's impossible for neo valve to actually make a decent game now
>look at the credits of HL1 and 2
>realise most of the people who made those games good have left Valve and its now just people making slot machine bullshit and failed hardware projects
>lead writer left Valve
>no Viktor Antonov, who specifically cited working on stupid bullshit rather than groundbreaking AAA games as the reason he left
It's like people just want a game labeled 'Half Life 3' and don't actually care what it is or who directly made it.
>>338284385
partly true, I didn't want to disrespect by asking the question everyone bothers him about. Awesome time though, learnt that Dota2 has a new editor being worked on for making maps (not hammer) and Pitlord model is completed.
Reminder that HL3 is about 70% done and it still has a team of 5 working on it full time. Allso hl3 files were uploaded into steams database in some dota update. It's not dead yet
>>338284385
What's the point? He's not going to tell you anything you don't already know. You'd just be wasting both your time.
>>338279705
i spent $460 on Bloodborne
>>338285460
even if true, how will HL3 compare with other recent games in terms of graphics. A beautiful art style may make it shine with great lighting, but it be behind on graphical advancements at the rate of development
>>338275113
>muh half life 3
I love how idiots misinterpreted the "we're moving away from the episodic model" and combined that with 9 years and it's called Half Life 3 for some reason
silly
>>338278257
Just like Source 2 amirite?
>>338285460
Still a long way to go if it's only 70% done and there's only 5 people working on it. It takes entire 100+ man studios years to make a game.
>>338285575
i'm actually considering buying a ps4 just for bloodborne and the next kojima game
>>338280813
Unreal Tournament 2004, faggot
>/v/ :video games
>>338286143
ut 2004 does beat hl2 for singleplayer
Probably not.I am really sad about this as I'm one of HL2's biggest fans. That game absorbed all my teenage life, especially in Gmod. I loved that shit.
>>338281079
Fucking this
I hate memesters and kids who don't understand how massively influential and brilliant HL2 was. Alright, so HL1 revolutionised FPS, and it was incredibly important, but what HL2 did was make things flow.
we just need to sacrifice enough virgins to Gabe so we should just start killing ourselves until half-life 3 comes out
>9 years since episode 2
>yfw probably thousands of people who expected to play 3 in their lifetime have died since
>>338277821
this
>>338276893
>>338277096
same shit happened to every game that was shit that was in "development hell"
this is essentially what just happened here
>Doom was good and it was in development hell
>Right, but you're forgetting that it was in development hell
>>338275227
Would half life 3 even classify as development hell?
Development hell usually means studios are trying to get the game made but valve isn't even trying
Sorry, but the cake HL3 is a lie.....
>>338281079
absolutely this
it got pacing right more than any other game ever made
for the first time, I don't even want it
Valve has been making nothing but bad decisions and half-assed, underdelivered promises the last 5 years. The development team is gone. Gaben doesn't make games anymore. DOTA, CSGO, TF2 holy trinity of "competitive gaming" is what they want, and we'll be playing the same verisons of these games in another 10 years
>>338287202
yeah, my buddy killed himself just a week ago today
>>338287573
It's boring shit nobody here played a second time and literally nobody played in multiplayer other than one disappointing time.
>>338288570
oof, all those bad opinions there
>>338288570
>nobody here played a second time
I play it once a year at Christmas time just to remember what a well designed game looks like
>>338290059
So you admit to being a brainwashed shitter who's never played a good game in his life.
>>338290182
>le Half Life 2 is bad meme
Getting really stale
>>338280813
>>338290473
Go ask your shit friends to
>fully name a character from hl2 that isn't gordon freeman
>literally spell out a location's name from hl2
>name one sequence of levels that actually had any kind of plot progression and no gimmicks
>name one enemy that was actually challenging, the likes of dark souls' bosses are the first time you meet them
HL2 wasn't a bad game but it wasn't the godsend sinergy of gameplay elements either. It had best graphics and animation for a shooter in its time, that's it. The singleplayer is a completely forgettable experience full of cutesy props instead of action set-pieces the first one was renown for.
>>338291846
>best graphics for a shooter in its time
It was released after Doom 3.
>>338291846
>The singleplayer is a completely forgettable experience
That's because you have a bad memory, unlike other games, I remember almost all of the HL2 campaign from the flaming barrel coming down the stairs set by the combine next to trail way, to the point where you make your antilons attack the couple of zombies next to that fire on the hill leading towards the prison, and so many more moments it's not even funny. HL2 is not only good, but it's one of the best games ever, and the best one to come out in 2004.
>>338292812
>moments
Exactly, gimmicks. Oh you made the cute dogs attack zombies or the barrel go down some stairs. That's all you got, loser, because that's all HL2 was, an expanded techdemo. It had no genuine writing or seamless gameplay.
You do remember the whole cliff bit from HL1 though or how fucking annoying Xen was or those helicopters, fuck them. At least HL1 didn't pretend to have characters, lol.
>>338291697
>>338293331
>N-no !! I just said that HL2's campaign is a forgettable experience and the fact that you remember this experience does not count!!!
How about Black Mesa loser? The fact that the teleportation is fucked up by a headcrab pet, and instead of being send to Black Mesa you just end up outside of the building, and you have to go through all that shit to get there, ended by that helicopter fight which was a pain in the ass your whole journey.
>>338294743
Sounds just as boring as how you've written it, unlike the "insert item into lazer for resonance cascade" which is iconic in all of gaming.
>>338283123
I don't understand why they didn't launch their Steam machine thing with HL3 as flagship.
It would have sold like crazy.
>>338291846
you have autism
>>338280813
None
HL2 Deathmatch was fucking great.
The custom maps and brand new engine guaranteed thousands hours of fun.
>>338295024
You sound like a faggot desu
>>338285460
>and it still has a team of 5 working on it full time
TF2 updates has/had a similar team size and they work at a completely insubstantial rate even though they don't design the models or maps they add now. 5 full time people is fuck all for a game like HL in a studio like Valve.
