>you fell for the "if you practice, you'll be good" meme
Why do people say this? All that matters is natural skill.
Being able to practice is a natural skill too
Nice static mindset cuck.
>Practice makes permanent
>>338272554
You're a moron that's probably not practicing the right way
Doing something for 8+ hours a day will make you a god at it, unless you're genuinely retarded or physically incapable
>>338272554
Aaaand thats why you will remain bad, alot of the time, experience trumps natural skill. You dont even need to fully go off and practice, just work on proper tactics and proper play as you go, go for the harder fight and dont quit, you should be good in no time. Also not raging when you get your ass kicked helps, a calm, forcused mindset can make you play better.
Scientifically proven false, idiot.
But you do have to practice correctly, and always push yourself.
you'll never be good with that attitude, anon
Of course, the natural ticket is almost all that matters
But practice is just as useful.
You know what's your problem? You practiced without gaining any knowledge. Your practice was just repeating the same mistakes all over again.
>>338272554
kill yourself frogfucker
>>338272554
in games, just like in real life, there is no natural skill.
Natural skill and talent are excuses mostly used by salty losers who are too lazy to work their ass off towards a goal.
>>338272910
>609 hours in CS:GO
>never got past AK rank
>almost always go negative
>any headshot I land feels like luck
I'm incapable of playing this game at a decent level
>>338275503
>implying 609 hours are enough to be good at csgo
>>338275553
>implying you can't hit global in less
Of course, then there's also the shitlord argument of "Is the top 1% rank REALLY good doe?!".
i laughed
good frogpost
>>338275790
There are some people who can reach global with 300-400 hours too, of course.
But for the rest of us (which is the vast majority) who don't always have 4 not retarded friends to play with and rank up 600 hours are not enough. Hell I got 1600 and I never got past supreme
>>338275503
practicing won't help you with RNG.
You have to learn how to learn. You can do the same thing for 2000 hours and never improve if you don't know how to learn.
Take two people playing a fighting game.
One guy just grinds out ranked moves from one game to the next and never really thinks about what he's doing. He'll improve but he'll plateau.
The second guy does ranked, but he also does longer sets, watches his replays with a critical eye and goes online to exchange or steal strategy and combos etc.
The second guy will blow the first out of the fucking water even if the first started at a higher level due to reflexes or some shit.
You can see this by looking at the players who do well when a new fighting game drops vs the ones doing well years later. Some guys can do well for the first year or so but fail to improve and evolve.
Basically you're just making excuses for your own failures.
>>338272554
>>338272792
>>338272910
>>338273060
>>338273064
>>338275170
>>338275380
Perfect Practice makes Perfect
>>338272554
>>338276009
>implying practice didn't make you good
i'm still didn't learn how to alt+f4.
>you fell for the life meme
>>338272554
>Being this fucking bad at life
you should probably just kill yourself
>>338272554
>All that matters is natural skill
''Natural skill'' is a meme, there is no natural skill to anything, there's familiarity and adaptability, both are traits you improve with time and effort, it's all about how well developed these traits are, familiarity helps with new things that are similar to older things, if I play a lot of Doom I'll be ''naturally'' good at quake, they're not the same, but the basics always are.
People should stop making excuses and git gud.
But it's true. Though you gotta seriously practice, doing stuff is generally not enough in a game. You gotta really think about what it is you're doing.
>>338277182
>and you rolled male
>>338277482
>There's a difference between "practicing" and actual pracitce
That whole philosophy is what seperates the 95% from the 5%. And everyone on /v/ loves to think they're a 5%'er.
>>338275993
TL;DR: The reason the vast majority doesn't get to the high ranks is because they're under the illusion that playing the game for 8 hours every day is enough and aren't actively trying to improve.
Admittedly I reached Global prepatch, started playing the game casually and downranked to Supreme postpatch which puts me in top 2%.
Outside of the very last game where I hit Global after a pretty long streak, I played solo most of the way. Probably up to 75% of my last 100 matches.
Think I had put in around 700 hours, first 500 with a laptop that averaged 30 fps and locked me down to DMG.
I fully believe that if any player who is of average quality, i.e. normal reflexes, not retarded etc., puts in enough time AND approaches the game correctly he can at the VERY least reach top 2%. Probably even Global.
I have a friend who still plays the game and claims to play to get better. But whenever I play with him and point out what he's doing wrong (like buying a CZ on a previously won round and enemy eco) he gets 1) butthurt 2) claims to know he's doing something wrong 3) do the exact same thing the very next time the same scenario comes up.
There are way too many players who avoid identifying their own mistakes and blame it on something else.
That friend I just talked about admittedly doesn't complain about his random teammates that often. Instead he keeps practicing smokes and flashes for hours. Even though me and several other of his highly ranked friends tell him his weaknesses lies in being unable to stay calm in stressed situations, being insecure in his playstyle which makes him do stupid decisions and general game sense.
During the last 3 months or so he hasn't done anything to try and improve this. Just keeps mindlessly playing competitive and praticing utility which he pretty much never actually use in pratice.
>>338272554
I practiced my ass off in modern warfare.
I started the game on veteran and died at least 1000 times. By the end of my 2nd or 3rd playthrougb I was crushing it and beat Mile High Club on veteran and that m16 with stopping power made me a God online
>Play vidya since i was a wee babby
>"GEE ANON, WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD AT VIDYA"
>>338277748
I don't know if I'd say that this is what seperates people, but I do know that it's worked for me. And with games I think it's more pronounced than with other activities because the physical skill, which is something you do improve even if you're just doing stuff without thinking about it, is capped very low. It's not hard to press buttons.
Final lap I'm on top of the world
And I will never rest for second again
One more time I have beaten them out
The scent of gasoline announces the end
They all said I'd best give it up
What a fool, to believe their lie-ie-ies!
>>338272554
>Able to gitgud at video games
>Make the same mistakes in real life over and over again
>>338278627
Real life is hard and no fun. Obviously it's easier to git gud at video games,
I have never failed to complete any video game challenge. Im not gifted, I just keep trying.
>>338272554
Natural skill is a big part of how good we can get, but even bigger part is the speed of which we can learn shit. Some people can learn stuff twice or even thrice as fast as normal people, and some seem to never be able to learn at all. OP I'm guessing you're just shit at learning.Most vidyya players can actually learn shit pretty fast, control schemes stick to our heads like gum. That's why young people who play games can learn how to drive a car faster than some people who don't.
>>338272554
Depends on what genre you're talking about.
For example: Strategy games require natural strategic thinking but Shooters like COD require 0 skill.
>>338279498
It's hilarious watching people explain why their game of choice is the only one that takes skill.
No reflex fags will always explain to you how reflexes and timing aren't skills.
Reflex only fags will explain to you how strategy etc isn't a skill.
Yer all dummies.
/thread
what did he mean by this? (pic related, the guy who we need to find out what he meant by this)
>>338279498
>>338279914
Not only do you need reflexes in COD, you need to be able to spot a lot of shit in a very short time, kinda like while driving. I'm not defending COD as a game, but saying it doesn't reguire skill is retarded.
>>338275380
I don't know senpai I was naturally good at Halo and hack and slashes, but I continually get wrecked in racing games and fighting games. I can never get good enough in them.
>>338275380
Claiming there aren't progedies is retarded. Some people are just naturally better than others at something, but practicing will make you better than a natural who never practices.
>Natural skill meme
Don't believe those faggots. Actually, you could be good at your favorite game if you weren't such a fucking stupid idiot that has already set his mind to "this shit is not serious shit", so you not only gain nothing but waste time and effort too.
Literally nobody is born with skill, you're rather as skillful as your surroundings let you be.
>>338275380
Sorry, but what your elementary school teachers told was wrong. You could practice as much as Micheal Jordan did and never be as good as him. Some people are just destined for greatness.
>>338272554
you need to git gud at practicing.
Practice makes Mr. Perfect
Natural Talent is shit compared to Experience and Good Training
Besides a lot of folks who are gifted on a certain skill STILL need to practice so they can fully use their talents
Boxers fight to git gud
Musicians plays to git gud
Students study to git gud
y r u not playing nigga
Tbh natural skill is really fucking important at the highest level of play but none of you will ever reach it. Also, being naturally 'good' will accelerate your learning.
The bottom line is even an average 100 IQ pleb can reach top 1% of any player pool if they try.
>tfw beating people who've played this game way longer than I
Is this what it means to be superhuman?
>>338282217
If we consider the ability to learn and adapt a basic human skill then you're probably beating subhumans as a regular human.
>>338275380
>Be professional soccer player
>Practice every day, 8 hours a day, since some jew rescued me from a favela at 6 years old
>Never be able to play like Messi
>In fact, I look like I never played soccer before when Im near him
t. every soccer player that is not Messi
Practice is important and needed, but innate talent is a thing.
>>338283052
Nah I'm definitely superhuman m8.
>>338283213
Yeah, only 1% or less of people ever reach the level where it really matter though that's why we have the olympics.
>>338283487
Ok fella I'll let you have this one.
