Does this guy have an original bone in his body?
MGS2:
>another cyborg ninja
>exact same torture scene
>electrified floor
MGS3:
>literally a James Bond clone
>Raidev
MGS4:
>actually go back to shadow moses
>ANOTHER cyborg ninja
>all the bosses are clones of Foxhound bosses
>explains the magic away with nanomachines
>foxdie
MGSV:
>XOF
>explains the magic away with parasites
>otacons dad
>le sexy sniper woman :D
I honestly don't understand why he isn't a movie director. He would probably amazing at making his own brand of capeshit
MGS2 is intentionally a rehash of MGS.
It's one of the reasons the fanboys lap it up so much as teenagers think meta elements make everything a work of deep intellectualism.
>>338250845
Honestly this would be the best thing for Kojima to do but most of his fans are retarded and think the work he does is some high brow social commentary which obviously got to his head when he shat out the turd that was MGSV's story.
>>338250652
He's not known for his originality, nor his actual writing talent.
He's known for bat-shit crazy moments, a blend of realism and anime-tier bullshit, memorable scenes and dialogue, cinematography and direction.
As a writer he's mediocre at best, but what people like is his presentation.
>>338250652
yes, MGS1
>>338250845
because he failed to become a movie director
failures from other industries come to video games because anyone can work on them
>b-but reference
>b-but homage
The kult of Kojima is pathetic
>>338251028
fuck off
i don't find it deep or intellectual
i just think it makes mgs2 a unique spin on sequels
you need to stop your bullshit assumptions
>>338251434
good for you, contrarian snowflake!
>>338251804
>I can't create a genuine response so I'll use meme buzzwords! That'll show him!
also blatantly sexis
>>338251871
I was originally going to state that normalfags, casuals, and edgelords flock to psuedo-deep/intellectual works and you're really no better for spring spouting to everyone that you're different and that's somehow better. But you would have had a spergfit either way, so I took the easy way out.
>>338252363
It must suck that you can't find enjoyment in things
>>338252363
You sound very insecure
>>338251343
>because he failed to become a movie director
This. He literally admitted in an interview that he always wanted to be a movie director but found it too hard to break into the industry so he took up video game development.
>>338253227
>>338253332
I never said I wasn't a normalfag nor a casual, now did I?
>>338253576
It's not really how to break in the industry that got him, Kojima is clueless when it comes to movies and his taste is actually really trashy and on par with mainstream teenagers with the occasional good film.
He salty as shit and likes others on his team to call him by the Japanese word for "film director" because he thinks he's on the same level as Kurosawa or Ozu. He's a stuck up failure and a good example of the dunning kruger effect.
>>338253576
He never actually tried to get into movies. The jap film industry was turning to shit as he grew up so he said fuck that and got into economics and then video games.
>>338253818
>dunning kruger
Except, you know, people do shit on him all the time and consistently call him a hack. Any dissonance he's experiencing had a very obvious source, such as this thread.
>>338250652
MGS2 was supposed to be the same as MGS1 lol
>>338250652
He's done more than MGS.
>>338254310
that proves the point, does it not?
He's like Tarantino. He doesn't really come up with anything groundbreaking be he knows how to combine certain elements in a way that feels fresh und unconventional.
>>338250652
Boktai was great.
>>338256389
>key founder of the stealth genre (MSX MG and especially MG2:SS
>For better or worse blended cinematics and gameplay seamlessly and influenced the current industry
>nothing groundbreaking
Ayyylmao
>>338251262
Firstly, there is nothing realistic in anything he does.
/v/ kiddies just like him because of cuhrazyyy animeshit and hamfisted philosophical and sociological themes mixed with sophomoric teenager humor. There is nothing redeemable about his franchises as there is always another franchise in the same genre that's better than his. For example, splinter cell has always been better than metal gear.
>>338257863
this faggot didn't invent cutscenes. they've been used on the snes decade before.
what's worse, he's praised for cutscenes here, but he never invented integration of cutscenes into gameplay. Face it, Kojima is an unoriginal hack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP2xTiu8lVc
>>338250652
Well they call him the Tarantino of vidya.. and when keeping in mind that everything Tarantino does is quoting other movies.. it fits.
>>338258592
by integration of cutscenes, I meant seamless integration of cutscenes and exposition.
This hack just made the game stop every few seconds to answer a 3 hour long codec call staring at a screen and then watch a 4 hour long cutscene of a guy's speech about war and intertwined fates then have a guy shit his pants in the next scene. Fuck Hackjima.
>>338258592
I'll face the fact that you're an emotional, frothing mess.
Cutscenes also go back further than the SNES. Try Ninja Gaiden on the NES for starters.
My statement was more about seemless integration of cinematic elements with gameplay.
>>338253576
Except he also said that he can do things with videogames that he couldn't possibly do with movies. He's not a movie director reject, that would imply that he does videogames because he wasn't good enough for movies and that movies hold more value than videogames, when in fact its videogames being the same as movies, but interactive and better, that drives him to make them.
>>338258609
>>338256389
Nobody compares Kojima to Tarantino though? Suda51 gets compared to him a lot, which is wrong still, but whatever.
>>338250652
And MGS1 was a rehash of MG2: SS.
>Have to move to certain areas to change a card key
>A character that was an ally from the previous game returned as a cyborg ninja
>Fight a Hind as a boss
>Meryl was Holly 2.0, even had the same Codec number
>Deal with someone calling themselves "Deepthroat"
There's almost certainly more I'm forgetting. MGS1 copied a ton of shit Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake already did.
>>338259981
Suda51 is more like a slightly saner version of David Lynch.
>>338259483
There's nothing seamless about staring at a screen after being interrupted by a codec call every 5 minutes.
>>338250652
>every spy thriller is a james bond ripoff
>>338258435
>Firstly, there is nothing realistic in anything he does.
Aside from cyborgs, Metal Gears and supernatural shit/nanomachines/parasites, it's pretty authentic, especially all the military stuff.
Even the sci fi stuff isn't batshit insane and impossible, exoskeletons, nanomachines, gene therapy, optical camo, railguns, even bigass robots are all currently being researched somewhere.
>/v/ kiddies just like him because of cuhrazyyy animeshit and hamfisted philosophical and sociological themes mixed with sophomoric teenager humor.
Most of /v/ grew up with MGS and MGS1 was most likely their first contact with the series.
Unless you were Japanese or the stars aligned, you easily missed the first 2 MG games.
>>338260945
MGS3 was inspired a lot by Bond. Kojima and his team admitted that. Snake Eater, the opening theme, is James Bond as fuck on purpose. I don't see it as a negative unlike cuck OP that can't accept that everything humans create is derivative. He's clearly never tried to make something in his life.
>>338261668
no most of /v/ only likes the series for memes.
most of /v/ jumped on the bandwagon with 5 and then played the series.
>>338251028
It's a novel idea that he executed, but it is pretty fucked that he made it so similar.
I wish MGS5 had a ninja.
>>338251262
Giantbomb would love you.
Also fuck off.
>>338255458
No that proves you didn't understand the message Kojima was giving to the player.
>>338261827
>most recent game gets most attention
No shit
>>338252160
>likes titties
>pervert and sexist
>>338262024
No it proves it's a dumb message and not conveyed in a good way at all in the slightest.
It's hardly even a novel idea. DUDE MEMES LMAO
>>338250652
He ended MGS the same with policenauts and Snatcher; he got tired with them and wanted the player to imagine what happens next
It's Hacky but that's Kojima.
>>338251028
nailed it
>>338251343
>>338253576
You're thinking of David Cage.
Kojima had different motives, just like >>338259738 says.
>>338252160
Every character in MGS is oversexualized as fuck. Including male characters. Stop pushing your agenda.
>>338263191
Shut up, you cis white straight male scum. You wouldn't understand.
I always felt like the idea of MGS was for it to be cyclic because there's no escaping from the horrors of war or shit. I thought that was why you basically play the same story with big boss, solid and raiden.
>>338263336
>cis white straight male scum>implying i would fuck Solid in a heartbeat given the chance
>>338263021
Metal Gear games are barely even interactive and are pisspoor easy, so how is he "utilizing the medium" exactly?
>>338263383
Wow, it's like, so deep maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Face it, metal gear is pretentious college-tier schlock. And you're probably in college.
>>338263759
Nope. Replying from my job.
And i wasn't saying it was good, i just thought it was supposed to be cyclic.
MGS4:
>MGS1 Screenshot Simulator
>>338263759
MGS2 is still the deepest story I've seen from a game, eat shit.
>>338264017
You're mistaking depth for pretension and hamfisted themes.
>>338263634
Did you ever even play them?
Tell me how you make the Psycho Mantis boss battle in a movie
>tfw every Metal Gear thread these days are just faggots shitting on the games
>We'll never go back to the pre-MGSV days
I just want another thread where we discuss Ocelot's homolust for BB, please.
>>338264204
And you're a fucking idiot who hasn't presented a good argument, only shallow insults.
>>338251262
>He's known for bat-shit crazy moments
Yeah something that MGSV did not have except for the very first fucking part of the game where you can't do shit except follow some rails.
>>338264337
Sahelantropus disagrees
>>338264228
Blame mustard rice. Seems like ever since they finally got MGS, all they've done is shit on it and blame the series as a whole.
>>338264387
>1 lousy bossfight
>>338264454
>ever since they finally got MGS
You mean since the year 2000?
>>338264456
Quiet headshotting a jet pilot was pretty crazy too
>>338264547
sure is funny and crazy
>>338264294
Here, I can sum up Kojima like this for your feeble brain.
>Kojima
Oh boy, can't wait for more cinematic bullshit with clunky college freshman-tier philosopical dialogue, overly padded and convoluted exposition, and teenager-tier sophomoric "humor" like JOHNNY SHIT HIS PANTS LMAO and DUDE MERYLL'S BUTT LMAO XD
Not to mention stealth is handled far better in Thief, Tenchu, and Splinter Cell.
>>338264534
We don't speak about that abomination.
>>338260598
Careful, you can't be bringing facts into these parts.
>>338264630
Once again, more childish insults, and no real criticism of the supposed "college freshman philosophy".
btw this is my first time on /v/ and ages and thanks for reminded me why I don't visit this shithole.
Also, I've played the first few Splinter Cell games and thougt they were fucking horseshit that nostalgiafags pretend to like.
Good day.
I like all of his games. Suck a cock faggots.
Actually, i do like almost all videogames.
Actually, I'm off to playing some Crash fucking Bandicoot as my boss still isn't here.
Bye guys.
anyone played the Acid games?
Any good?
>>338265303
Fuck off, Hackjima PR shill.
No one gives a shit about your cinematic unoriginal garbage.
>>338265551
lel now he's copying Unfarted
>>338265303
2 is great if you like some turned based stealth with cards and ridiculous story shit. Don't bother with the first
>>338250652
MGS1 was an upgraded remake of MG2 you fucking ignorant cunt.
If you're going to criticise a series, at least know it inside out rather than shouting from the sidelines. What are you, a Polygon ''''''journalist'''''?
Don't forget
> Made a lackluster portable game because his wifes son couldn't show off the PS2 games to his friends
>>338252160
>games are brimming with strong, independent, capable women with their own agendas, ideas and story
>sexist
You are the sexist one if you can't see past dem tiddies and dat ass
>>338265682
KOJIMA PR FORCE LEAVE!!!
WE DON'T WANT YOUR TRIPLE A GARBAGE!!!
>>338265817
Quiet is a shit character that serves only to insert his ugly horsefaced gf though.
>>338265659
sounds intetesting, thanks
![73lBPLiu0ULgF1EykNOP7ClmIErMpBNnRwUnuMYRcYc[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IOdafHY.jpg "73lBPLiu0ULgF1EykNOP7ClmIErMpBNnRwUnuMYRcYc[1].jpg")
>>338265884
>>338250652
Kojima is actually a master of repetition. Play P.T. to see a condensed example of this. Even those slightly versed in literature or film know that repetition is a very powerful narrative tool, when used right. It's shame that most video game players can only see it as a negative, because it's really quite exciting what Kojima has achieved through repeated motifs and scenario elements.
>>338264630
Name a deeper and more intelligent game than MGS2.
>>338266010
MGS4
>>338265817
>story is about dude memes lmao and nuclear proliferation
>stupid
you are the stupid one if you can't look past all those jokes about diarrhea, women's posteriors, naked men cartwheeling, and terrible stilted voice acting.
>>338266010
Gone Home
![tOf0gLJz_400x400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/X1JdrlF.jpg "tOf0gLJz_400x400[1].jpg")
>>338265902
>he doesn't like the Jooster
>>338256389
Video games today would be virtually unrecognisable if it wasn't for MGS1. Kojima uses a shit ton of references and homage in his work but teams under his lead have also made significant leaps in technology and scope. Tarantino is influential but he hasn't advanced movies in the same way Kojima and co have advanced games.
>>338266010
It's not about being deep. It's never about being deep. It's about being compelling. And Metal Gear is a terribly told story. Being deep never counts for jack shit. Do you watch Godard films or something and contemplate your life while making jokes about diarrhea and acting like an immature doofus? Oh you do? Well, nevermind then, Hackjima is the GUY for you!
>>338266184
In what fucking way has Kojima "pushed" games?
He didn't invent the cutscene, so what the fuck did he do? Invent the neverending cutscene??
>>338266361
>Metal Gear is a terribly told story.
Now it is, yeah. It wasn't when MGS2 was new though.
Not that you've given a proper answer anyway.
>>338266160
> Joosten
> Joostar
> Joestar
N-Nani?!
>>338262179
No, it just means you're stupid and found an easy pickings in berating MGS2 for being similiar to MGS1 even though that was the point because you're either so desperate to fit in or you're baiting.
Either way, you're a faggot.
>>338260723
What exactly do you define "seamless"?
>>338267623
oh I don't fucking know. Implementing exposition into the GAMEPLAY and not on a little codec screen tha pauses the game and makes you listen for hours on end. That's not a GAME
>>338266361
You write like you're underage, all you do is insult and never present an actual argument, and name drop directors like you actually think it makes you look smart amd insightful.
This site is 18+. Leave.
>>338267923
The irony.
>>338264454
> M-muh mustard race boogeyman!
Sure blame PC. It's the only way you can cope with the fact you wasted money on an underpowered gimped PC for, what? 3 games?
I'll let you in on a little secret though:
> I played MGS1 for the first time in 07'
> On a PC
>>338268059
Yes, quite ironic. Nice pepe man, I see you keep up with the latest and hottest memes around. U goin?
>>338267813
voice overs are terrible. Blade Runner proved this conclusively.
>>338268183
It's a stock photo.
Now fuck off.
>>338267813
How would you have long and complex conversations otherwise? You can't really do that in play as you have to be focused on the actual game and you'll miss alot of details and nuances.
It's why PW and MGSV have such shallow talks over the radio, you can't have the conversation going on while sneaking around base.
It's seamless because it's interwoven into the game. Outside of childish hyperbole, convos don't take an hour, 10 minutes at best and that's only the really long ones, and they happen in intervals. 80% of codec calls are optional and you can progress without them and understand everything perfectly fine.
They do help to better realize the world and characters though.
>>338268410
U first foccboi.
>>338268567
Nah, get to class, Jimmy.
>>338266010
*nods respectfully towards you*
>>338266361
>compelling
this is the cinematic equivalent of "comfy," it's a meaningless buzzword
MG2 is the only remotely original thing Kojima has thought up
MGS was literally a rehash of MG2
>>338266010
MGS2's deepness is an equivalent to the beginner shit of a freshmen year high school philosophy class
The only remotely impressive part of it was the technology, because the writing was just fucking retarded and his big "prediction for the future" was nothing that hadn't already been said countless times in other mediums
MGS2 fans need to read a fucking book or something
It's ok when From does it.
>>338269341
kek
Kojima literally got lucky with 2
>>338250652
He hyped people up with amazing trailers
>>338251262
> presentation
that's it right there pretty much
it's a mediocre story writen over TWO decades, and only slowly revealed over that TWO decade period, each time with some sort of bizzare twists in them
Kojima is pretty much the vidya dev version of J.K Rowling
nothing original, but pretty good concept, you might say they 'pioneered' their own genre into something fresh for the new generation
>>338268760
Don't have school anymore Tim. Unlike you, I graduated in time.
What Kojima really did brought was his vision of 'espionage' gameplay mechanics
Yes there are military and even spy games before the 1986 MG, but none of them actually played like MG
If anything we owe him that.
Fuck every stealth games ever.
Fuck Sam Fisher.
Fuck every cult favorite late 90s RPG FPS that featured stealth gameplay.
None does it like Metal fucking Gear.
>>338252160
>sexis
I guess putting attractive women in games or movies makes it sexist. If they had put an attractive woman in Ghost Busters it would be offensive, so they didn't. All the games with attractive women are sexist right? Don't be an SJW scumbag like Anita Sarkeesian.
>mgs 3
>literAlly jame bond
You wouldn't have said that if the codec never mentioned james bond. Nor if you decided to piggyback off some other autists comment.
>>338268567
>wait to keep the hottest memes ready for action
>posts a meme
Laugh at this retard.
:Generic lol picture meme :
