>Gwyn's theme kicks in during the second phase of the fight
I GOT CHILLS
>lol you guys remember gwyn XDDD
Fuck off hackazaki, the first phase of the fight was much better
Wear a coat buddy.
>everyone loves the second phase when gwyn's theme starts playing
>I really loved when he ninjaflipped backwards and gave himself power within
That really gave me nostalgia. Like I was fighting every DaS1 character.
>>338241350
Shame the fight is shit.
>>338241350
I didn't want to kill myself in the fight. Chosen Undead was a good boy! He dindu nuffin wrong!
>>338241350
THEY'RE MULTIPLYIN'
>>338241350
I wish the second phase was harder. All the moves are so telegraphed it makes the fight trival
My ultimate dream for the final boss was that itsearched your hard drive for a Dark Souls save, and if you had one it would import your old character as the boss, but this was pretty good too.
That's the point. The Soul of Cinder starts spamming Gwyn moves out of desperation, believing that he's the greatest soul and his best chance. And honestly, seeing that his moveset is very predictable and he even has less health, I doubt it.
>>338241350
>I GOT CHILLS
I did too, and its weird because I only get chills and shakes playing eve
>>338241480
but it isn't
>>338241474
>gets down to zero health
>doesn't die
>health shoots back to full
Including the hackers apparently
Which boss in DaS 3 was the typical souls boss where they can barely fight back for lore reasons?
>>338242629
This wouldn't happen cause consoles
>>338243020
No first phase was the chosen undead.
Second was gwyn.
you know. at the end you kill gwyn. Your souls sort of fuse I guess.
>>338242980
I beat it the first try with only 1 summon, had like 8 estus sips left. Sick final boss bro, especially for a """"hard"""" game.
>>338243071
only boss I can think of that does this is king allant
what other bosses does this?
>>338243071
Invaders
>>338243191
Do you suppose solaire was in there too?
>>338243071
Lothric
So is there any in-game lore explaining what the whole eclipse thing is about?
Is it supposed to be the sun "melting" away as the last of the fire fades?
Why doesn't it appear in Archdragon Peak? Does this mean Archdragon Peak is in the past or something?
>>338243071
Lorian and Lothric
>>338243210
Isn't Pinwheel really underwhelming in DaS ?
>>338243192
>lol this game is so easy and I'm so much better then all you lol it's not even hard.
doesn't need to be hard to be a fun fight faggot.
>>338241350
/v/ Rule #5: Purposeful spoiling of a game's plot or other details may result in post deletion and temporary ban. Use spoiler tags where appropriate.
>>338243071
Phase 1 Consumed King or Abyss Watchers (since they're too busy killing each other)
>>338243192
It's a shame you steamrolled him, the fight is meant to be experienced alone.
>>338243272
the Archdragon Peak you visit is a dream
>>338243192
where did I imply it was hard? it could've been a bigger challenge yes, but it's still a boss with cool visuals, really wide moveset and really fair and fun fight
>>338243324
>>338243324
They only respond to those posts within the first month
DS3 has been out 2 months
Intentional spoiler: Sephiroth kills Aerith
>>338243192
1 summon
>>338243272
I wonder if the sun being so strong in Archdragon Peak was meant to be a hint about Nameless King?
>>338243249
I know don't want him to be in there.
The thing that made him special sort of was that he wasn't actually special. That is why I was always against him being gwyn's firstborn.
Everyone else is the chosen one of something and is sent there on some mission or another. He is just this really nice guy with a weirdly out of place personality.
I don't want him to have a special soul.
>>338243192
>only 1 summon
this is b8
>>338243192
>with only 1 summon
Wooooow so impressive.
>>338242090
AND I'M LOSING
>>338243302
yeah, but he can still really fuck you up if you take him on early and he gets to spawn alot of clones
It's kind of amazing how much summoning changes his fight. Alone he's pretty formidable. With summons he looks like an old man chasing kids off of his lawn, and failing.
>>338243404
Who the hell is the Nameless King supposed to be?
I thought it was meant to be an old bad assOrnstein, but is it he just legit nameless dude that was a super bad ass, or is it just straight upGwyn?
>>338243542
Gwyns firstborn, the one depicted in the broken sunbro statues
>>338243542
Its gwyn's firstborn. There are like 20 references to it.
He is the sunlight statue. He got removed everywhere in lordran because gwyn denounced him after he essentially joined the dragons.
>just passed 50 hours played
>haven't beaten the game yet
I keep making new characters, at least now I feel good with a pyromaner. Cleared the cathedral and on my way to abyss watchers.
>>338243471
CONTROL. CAUSE THE POWER YOURE SUPPLYING
>>338241350
I was impressed at how shit ds3 managed to be
At least ds2 didn't need to feast on ds1's corpse to make a complete game
All of ds3's memorable moments, with the exeption of ithrill or whatever the fuck, are copy pasted from ds1
How did this game get the praise it did?
How the fuck do some of you niggers even like this?
>>338243386
Yo what the fuck. You fucking dick.
>>338241350
I felt like the second phase music was just a bit shit. Only having a few seconds of piano that call back to the fight against Gywn is pretty shit when you're fighting a boss who has no build up and no effort to get to. It simply makes you remember a boss fight which was far more engaging.
There is no Kiln to fight through to the first flame, nor is there a long run towards the final boss. Its just a short run up a slope to a grey field.
The same can apply to pretty much all of DS 3 with Aldrich being the exception.
>>338243741
You answered your own question anon. Cause we're niggers.
God how stupid can you be?
>>338243729
IT'S ELECTRIFYING! YOU BETTER SHAPE UP
>>338243404
>>338243542
>>338243608
I keep seeing this, and I see the evidence, but I still think Andre is more likely the firstborn.
>it was originally supposed to be him in the first game, cut for time
>physically resembles him
>Giant's Coal dialogue shows he personally knew the giant blacksmith in Anor Londo
>Clearly thousands of years old, hasn't aged a day
>>338243698
>almost 500 hours in
>can't stop playing
Call me if you find a cure for trying out different builds.
>>338243741
>How did this game get the praise it did?
>How the fuck do some of you niggers even like this?
Simple, DS3 is a greatest hits album that only manages to get a few good songs in.
>>338241350
I liked, it was the perfect final boss
a first phase that used almost all weapon movesets and magic, to conmemorate all the players that linked the fire
then the first piano note chimes in, and you fight Gwyn with his full power, although he's easier because there is no bullshit unending combos, I liked when he just shoots the sunspear to the air and a thousands fall from the sky
>>338243698
creating characters is so much fun tho and every time you play the start you get more and more efficient
>>338243848
I get that, but originally planned canon doesn't change current canon.
>>338243848
>but I still think Andre is more likely the firstborn.
No no no no no.
Come on!
They confirmed nameless is the first born.
There is no fucking chance in hell he isn't.
This is not debatable.
>>338243151
>He doesnt play on the Xbone
>>338241480
it's better than gwyn and miles ahead of the shit that was nashandra. still nowhere near gehrman
>>338244010
>its better than gwyn
The first phase maybe, but the second phase is a fucking joke
And even then, the first phase was only hard because of the spear, all the other weapons he uses are easy as fuck to dodge
>>338244010
>herewegoagain.jpg
>>338243848
>a nobody dwarf with no fighting ability or special powers is the son of a god and lord of cinder
>>338243914
The boss is great, yeah. But it had no context which simply make it an odd boss.
The simple question of 'why?' kind of ruins the boss.
>>338243020
I lold
>>338244084
spear was easy, just circle around him, he will try to lock you but fail
now, the scimitar, we can talk about bullshit there
>>338243936
No, but it does give you an idea of where the creator's intent might've been headed.
>>338243948
>confirmed
If it doesn't say "He was Gwyn's firstborn" then it's not confirmed. Do we have that in writing? If not, what's the most direct proof we have?
>invasion failed, timed out
>summoning failed, timed out
does this keep happening to anyone else? hope the patch fixes it
>>338244010
I respectfully disagree
>>338243191
no, the first phase was all the people that linked the fire, including your chosen undead, you can read about it in the soul of the boss
it was meant to represent all the players that choose to link the fire
>>338244084
>he goes into magic man mode
>switches back to spear or scimitar
>has those fucking energy balls still
>one hit and you end up dead by balls + melee
Fucking shit.
>>338244289
>He didn't bait the homing soulmass
It's like you wanted to get hit by it.
>>338244196
I did that, but he circles too much when attacking
I didn't use a shield though because that makes the game too easy, maybe it was that
I found the scimitar to be really simple, you can punish him after all his combos reliably with the exeption of one where he some times throws a 3rd attack in because fuck you.
>>338244289
I had a bug (or maybe it's not a bug) where he kept summoning the magic balls while holding another weapon
it would be fine but he just didn't launch all at once, he always had one in reserve to stagger you
>There's people that use summons on Soul of Cinder fight
>>338243848
>>338244202
>his soul confirms he was a god of war
>curved sword confirms he was from the age of gods
>Dragonslayer Sword confirms the power of lightning comes of his heir
>Leo Ring tells us Ornstein learned from Gwyn's firstborn
>Ornstein Armor is found after his fight and he searched him out
>dragonslayer spear is incredibly similar to the dragonslayer swordspear
I am sure I am forgetting something and there is more.
And yet there are still people who think he might not be the firstborn.
I think you are genuinely retarded. Like you were dropped as a child.
So if he isn't the firstborn.
That means there were two god of wars during the age of gods who both were heirs to lightning able to shoot lightning bolts.
I finally get why everyone hates soulsfags.
>>338244271
>represent all the players that choose to link the fire
Are you telling me that the boss...evolves it's weaponry, tactics, and looks as more people beat it and link the flame?
>>338244289
>he goes into magic man mode
>you can drop random attacks in without fear of getting punished
I think that it was a nice touch, having to fight all the possible incarnations of a DaS1 character + the original Lord of Cinder.
Even though I still like Gwyn's fight over this just because how impactful was for me to fight him.
Out of all the DaS1 bosses, he is the one that actually feels like a challenge without the parry meme of course.
>>338244350
>implying I didn't try to bait it
>he wouldn't fire them off until he landed a hit on me and then I was insta killed
>>338244479
>Can't roll or block the first basic attack
>>338242629
>Get to the end of DS3
>Hyped for what the game has lead me to
>Suddenly some fucker wearing a giant's dad mask jumps out of the bonfire with a zweihander jump attack
>Fat rolls everywhere chucking sunlight spear spears
>Poise tanks and sips all damage I do
>Constantly emoting and dodge rolling when I get near
You can call Giant dad meme cancer, but he was sure fun as fuck to play when the stars aligned. To be fair, I would of accepted a giant dad ultimate as the final fight just fine.
>>338244439
Not a bug, when he summons the first magic balls he gets a blue buff, I imagine thats what keeps summoning it even when hes in another "mode"
>>338244479
>he can't into pressing the roll button
Post DaS feels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DGe4RtPmWw
>Soul of the Lords.
One of the twisted souls, steeped in strength.
>Since Lord Gwyn, the first Lord of Cinder, many exalted lords have linked the First Flame, and it is their very souls that have manifested themselves as defender of the flame.
Do people not at least even read the boss soul descriptions? LI checked out on most of the story but there's no reason people should be in thedarkabout who/what the Soul of Cinder is.
Is there a general best type of element buff in dark souls 3? Like flame or lightning?
Or are all the enemy weaknesses spread average across?
>>338241350
>get to the end
>expecting some manus level shit, huge monster or something
>they must've learned with their previous fuck ups, right?
>big guy in armour with a few weapons
GOTY 2016
>>338244650
Bleed
>>338241350
I was a little disappointed, at first I was like literally who is this? Then figured, oh it represents all who linked the bonfire.
I hope the DLC has pontiff being around still, out of all souls games he has the most shit revolving around him
>>338242629
>+10 Paladin Knight with +5 Silver Knight sword, +5 grasscrest shield and a plethora of powerful pyromancies, sorceries and miracles
Fuck that would so fucking cool.
>>338244451
no
Dark souls 3 happens a long time after Dark souls 1, there has been ton of ages of fires and ages of darks, the soul of cinder is the embodiment of all the people that linked the fire
that's why Gwyn is the last one he encarnates, because he's supposed to be the one who linked the first flame
the first phase of the boss is meant to be remembered to all people who linked the fire
>>338244443
>!!!!!FUCKIGNSOULFAGSIHATEYOUYERDUMB!!!!!111!!!
I obviously haven't read all the material, which is why I was asking what the best evidence was. How could you possibly stand being this much of a sperg? Kill yourself.
>>338244730
>no carthus rouge bundle
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FROM
>>338244451
That's a running theory, although unconfirmed.
>>338244451
he would evolve into estoc r1 spammer
>get spoiled something like gwyn is in the game
>groan, move on, only thing i'm remotely spoiled on
>fight literally all the game, beat nameless king and assumed someone just fucked with me because all he did was the spear charge
>final boss
>the piano kicks in
>kills me with his 6 hit combo after he transitioned i was so surprised
>>338244010
You can turn a pretty average boss fight into a truly great one with proper context, the same can happen in reverse.
Gywn is mentioned throughout DS1 as this exceptionally powerful giant who linked the first flame, whether you found the fight hard or easy it has weight because of the character and build up. Same applies to Gehrman.
Its also why a lot of DS2 bosses felt meh. They either had no proper build-up or offered no real challenge.
>>338244650
For PvE it has to be fire, quite a few enemies react to fire so it is handy to have.
>>338244782
>I obviously haven't read all the material
Oh sorry I thought with.
>and I see the evidence
You meant you have seen the evidence and not exactly the fucking opposite.
>>338244676
>i need a big huge world-eating monster as a final boss or it doesn't feel climactic!
>>338243432
Actually, i think that Solaire was the chosen undead of his own timeline, he just was in yours because time and space is convoluted because first flame bullshit, so he would very likely be part of the SoC in the case that you finished his questline with the good ending.
But don't worry, i don't think that makes him anymore special than CU was, considering they're then both part of SoC.
>>338244831
Noice, I'm close to the catacombs too.
>>338244782
>I have no fucking idea what I am talking about but let me tell you why nameless isn't the firstborn
>REEE how dare you correct me with the information I asked you for you sperg
>>338244913
There are different timelines?
Suddenly I don't care about any souls lore at all anymore.
>>338244676
>he didn't understand the point of the final boss
better go back to your michael bay games big guy
>>338244985
it's not confirmed (like everything) but seeing how NPC's can also invade you I think the PVP mode is meant to represent the different timelines/realities
>literally 3 keys on the piano is pressed in a particular order instantly brought me back to DS1
music is a hell of a drug
>>338243071
Ancient Wyvern maybe.
>>338244927
Flame is ideal for the swamp and cathedral. Beyond that go for whatever floats your boat.
>>338244913
>>338244985
They said about this, it was something like 'if you made sure Solaire survived he'd go on to link the fire in his world'.
>>338245061
Then everything is dogshit and meaningless.
>>338241350
>3rd installment in dark souls series
>still no capes
WHAT THE FUCK FROM
>>338244987
>>338244879
>Yes! I want more of the same move sets I see in every other enemy!
>Weird and diferent? No! thats too lame!
I bet you faggots liked ds2
>>338244985
Did you do any of the sidequests? You help Sirris and Anri kill bosses in their own worlds, one even being Aldritch, yet he's still alive in your world after that. I guess everybody lives in their own universe and likes to travel to ours for shits and giggles.
>>338244936
Hey, retard, if you ask an honest question and as a reply someone says you were dropped on your head as a child, how is that not being an autistic splerg? You're no better than him for defending such socially inept behaviour.Not that anon, btw/
>>338244985
Every undead lives in his own timeline and it phases in and out of sync with other undead's timelines, eg solaire.
The links between worlds can be manipulated to join other undeads or invade them for their humanity.
>>338245093
anon pls
>>338244831
>You can turn a pretty average boss fight into a truly great one with proper context
This is the crux of a good boss fight, at least in a Souls game. If I go through an area and get to a boss I've never heard of before in-game, I just kill it and move on without much thought. On the other side of that, when you're fighting through an area and each item you pick up has a description that briefly mentions some named character, and any NPCs you find in the area mention them as well, you start to build up an image of this character in your head which in turn makes having to battle them that much more impactful. It's why fights like the Pontiff or the Princes or Aldrich were my favorites; they had great build-up if you were paying attention.
>>338241350
>Gwyn's theme kicks in
>die 5 seconds later before it really sets the mood for the fight because the Lord of Cinder is set to use the ultra telegraphed fuck-everything-around-me combo immediately after phase 2 begins
>>338245193
So how can you meet non summoned NPCs?
I would agree with that theory if every npc worked like dusk.
>>338245101
There are loads of capes though. Unless you mean capes seperate to armor?
>>338245093
well, that's the point, the age of fire and dark are just going to happen again and again in a cycle even if you do nothing
the jew serpents are behind all this
>>338245268
Again, the different universes of each undead phases in and out of each other constantly, so it causes many chosen undead to meet at different points in time.
>>338245387
That to me means there is time travel.
Not different universes.
Huge fucking difference.
>>338245268
They just sorta show up in your world at points where the worlds overlap. NPCs congregate at Firelink Shrine because it's a point of convergence of different timelines/worlds/whatever, but outside of there you have to summon them to your world because you're all separated.
Anyone else can't get online in ds3?
>>338241350
There's literally no happiness in the Dark Souls universe. The world is a living hell full of fucked up shit, and even the "friendly" people are batshit insane. What's the protagonist even fighting for? He has no family, no friends, no love interest. The world has no beauty of goodness in it. I'd honestly just commit suicide. His actions will do little to improve the world and it's only a temporary "improvement" anyways.
>>338245443
None of this is ever explicitly explained so it's very unclear as to whether it is in fact time travel or alternate universes or facing worlds or whatever you wanna call it
>>338244826
>>338245262
I didn't have any problem with his sick-ass air combo, what armour were you guys using on your first playthrough? Even if I didn't dodge one of his swings I would still come out of it with a 4rth of my health.
>>338245253
I wouldn't say that not having context for a boss makes it a bit bad. Because people always remember bosses like Capra Demon or Vordt because they were unexpectedly hard and the majority probably died at least once against them. Its about making you feel like you're doing something awesome, whether it be through building the boss up to be this strong opponent or simply making it a hard boss.
>>338245504
>Siegmeyer's endings.
No, just no.
>>338245579
My favorite boss was the dragon on Archdragon Peak for opposite reasons. Instead of typical over the top bullshit and just going in slashing you actually had to think outside the box and use the environment to your advantage. That and I wasn't expecting a single plunge attack to 1 hit KO so I was actually laughing when it did 10k damage.
>>338245504
Well in all three Dark Souls games, the protagonist is literally immortal, the whole issue with being undead. You have two ways out of it:
A) Keep fighting until you kill the thing that keeps you immortal so you stop being immortal and can finally die in peace.
B) Go fucking crazy.
So that's the character's motivation: "My choice is to either struggle to end my suffering or give up and lose my sanity."
Pretty shitty, yea.
>>338244550
>giant dad twinking at the burg pre-1.07
never will I have more fun. it was literally PERFECT enough for you to get 50% equip weight with the ninja flip ring at like level 14
>>338243836
BECAUSE I NEED A MAN
>>338243071
Old Demon King is having a hard time with that fading chaos flame and shit
>>338245449
I imagine that youre just one of many various planes (worlds) of existence and every invader, friendly or otherwise, is a variation of yourself. In the end all of your characters on every plane will decide on its own whether to link the fire or abandon it.
In this way, the player is Anri, Solaire, Longfinger Kirk, and the other NPCs all interacting with themselves on another plane of existence. And each plane has a constant link to eachother: Firelink.
>there are people who don't like alternate realities
>>338245443
each undead is in their own universe, it just phases in and out of other undead's universes too.
So when you meet solaire in undead burg it just means your universes are in sync.
Invading and summoning are ways to force your way through the barrier between universes, but you can't fully transition hence why you're a phantom
>>338245754
Damn, that's even more fucked up. Makes sense though.
So I'm guessing the "YOU DIED" messages aren't considered part of the true canon, and it's just to try and get under the player's skin?
definitely my favorite boss of the game
favorite theme and armor set too
and the more i think about it, Das3 might be my favorite souls game
>>338245721
Mine throughout the entire series was Vendrick. The fight itself was shit, but the music and backstory just sold it to me. The DLC made Vendrick by far one of the best NPCs in the series.
>>338245938
It makes everything worthless.
Yeah you killed gwyn but there is a different universe were the undead curse doesn't exist.
Why not try to attempt to travel there.
>>338245950
Well, you're still dying. You're just coming back because of your curse.
>>338245340
>Unless you mean capes seperate to armor?
yes. i want cloaks and shit
>>338241350
>You will never fuck Sieglinde through a small slit in her onion armor
>>338246034
The alternate realities is the explanation for why you have online interactions. I'm just happy They've managed to salvage the lore rape of Dark Souls 2
>>338246034
>but there is a different universe were the undead curse doesn't exist.
nah
the universes only diverge after the flame starts to fade and people become undead.
Each undead has his own universe, but his universe only diverges from the true 'real world' when he becomes undead
>>338246034
>Why not try to attempt to travel there.
Because it is the curse that causes the barrier between worlds to fade.
>>338246156
But time travel across one timeline would make more sense and wouldn't make everything stupid.
>recycle boss movesets, character animations and even the music from a game that came out 5 years ago
>the shit eating fans love it because MUH NOSTALGIA
Miyazaki is a genius.
>Tfw don't remember any of the music from any of the games
That little tune that plays in Majula from 2 is like the only thing I can recall.
>>338246216
>But time travel across one timeline would make more sense and wouldn't make everything stupid.
How? The multiple-worlds approach works on many levels, how do you explain online play with one timeline?
>>338244441
>there are people who summon for every boss fight
Wish we had more bosses like the rat king in 2 where you can't summon people
>>338246034
Everything is fucked in every reality.
>>338246271
>"wow this bowser dude was in the previous mario game, fuck the guy for making us eat this nostalgia riddled recycled piece of shit boss battle"
>>338244170
It's the ashes of all past Lords of Cinder given form. Unless you're wondering why you're fighting it in the first place, since by all means the Lords of Cinder would want you to link the fire as they did.Unless they are trying to stop you.Gwyn most of all.Lothric is the only sane Lord of Cinder left, and he chose the very same thing. But not for himself - he clearly know's he'll die atop his castle instead, in the same room he's been in all his life, cursed and enfeebled.Lorian used to be a knight-captain and saw the sense to his brother's actions, so much so that he decided to share his curse.
>>338246389
I would have to make a graph.
Do you want me to make a graph? I totally will.
Does gnaw work in pve at all?
>You will never shirk your duties and hide in Firelink Shrine for eternity fucking Karla and forcing Yoel to listen
>>338246517
That isn't even close to the same thing.
I bet you liked the reskinning that DS2 had.
>>338246563
not that anon. But you're misunderstanding what he's saying.
When he says multiple timelines he doesn't mean time travel, just multiple parallel universes. When 2 or more undead are at the same point in the timeline of their universe, they can phase into eachother. This is how you meet solaire and various other npcs.
The only way to 'time travel' in the sense of the game's lore is to be summoned or invade, but you can't make the full transition into the other universe, you are just a phantom there and easily banished
>>338241350
I cringed
>>338245504
Ashen One fights for his Firekeeper waifu.
>>338246543
But fighting what is basically the essence of the fire flame is stupid because it has to both be preventing you from linking the fire and extinguishing the fire.
In DS1 Gywn is hollowed and we both know what hollows are like.
In DS2 Nashandra wants power and to get as far as you did means you are powerful.
>>338246563
If you can come up with a simple graph showing how other players can fit into a set timeline then go ahead.
>>338243848
Right, but at the Sunlight Altar, the statue clearly has the Swordspear. There's no debate for it to be anybody but Nameless King.
>>338247043
It's just a monster that happened to be born from all of those who linked the flame. Totally mindless
>>338246657
>>338246989
Stinky abyssal pussy.
>>338246989
WEW
KREKKOV MY MAN
I DIDNT EVEN NEED TO ASK FOR MORE CUMFLATION, THE CRAZY FUCKER DID IT HIMSELF
>>338244084
>but the second phase is a fucking joke
Which is... Gwyn but better?
>>338245954
I'm with you. There's only really two areas in DaS3 I genuinely dislike, it's pretty consistent, and plays better than the earlier games because it can punish both slow and aggressive playstyles. The only thing I prefer about the first is that the world connectivity and NPCs made it feel really amazing, but the scale of areas in 3 was just as good the first time.
Nothing in the Souls games has been like the moment you look down where you hold the banner, and see the world you're going to explore before you.
>>338244364
>didn't use a shield though because that makes the game too easy
Greatshields, maybe. Every other shield will see you getting your ass kicked, it's easier to just roll through everything in 3.
>>338247102
Okay then, why at this moment? The only reasoning behind it being created is due to the flame being left unkindled for so long, which begs the question why it would stop you from linking the fire. You possess the cinders to kindle the fire, why try and stop you?
If it is truly mindless and attacks anyone then why did the flame spawn it?
>>338247204
>Gwyn but better?
The fight against Gwyn had a backstory, Gwyn was a character who meant something and was referenced since the opening cutscene.
>>338241350
>the game ends
>you get the same worthless fucking ending that doesn't resolve anything, just like the past two games
was it really so hard to make a proper ending this time around, especially since Miyazaki knows this is the last entry in the franchise?
fucking seriously, those nips need to get their shit together
I hope the DLC has some proper resolution and fighting the Primordial Jews
>>338247447
>You possess the cinders to kindle the fire, why try and stop you?
I think what he was getting at is that maybe there is a reason why it tries to stop you, maybe after linking the fire the chosen undead(s) reach a greater enlightenment and decide it's better if the fire is not linked after all.
>>338246989
>>338247137
Where do i find the uncensored of this?
>>338243020
deepest lore
Gwyn has achieved CHIM
Why does this game now freeze for three seconds every few minutes?
Why does the online multiplayer function feel so broken? Barely ever get summons/summoned (white soap stone).
Is the game totally broken now?
>>338244245
it happens to me for every auto-summon covenant
other than that i get connections pretty frequently
>>338247043
>If you can come up with a simple graph showing how other players can fit into a set timeline then go ahead.
Here is how I would understand both.
Both could make sense. I am not saying I know it is one but not the other. The alternative timelines just implies a lot more.
>>338247447
>The fight against Gwyn had a backstory, Gwyn was a character who meant something and was referenced since the opening cutscene.
What does this have to do with the second phase of Soul of Cinder being a joke compared to Gwyn when it's literally an unparriable Gwyn with 3 lightning attacks Gwyn didn't even use for his fight?
>>338244441
>not summoning waifu Yuria and dat boi Pale Shade
it's like you want to continue the cycle of shit
>>338247993
>why not both?
>>338248016
Not to mention the Manus-style combo attack Gwyn didn't have for his fight.
I wish Gwyndolin's set was in the game, shit would look mad sexy with the clothing physics.
>>338247447
>The fight against Gwyn had a backstory, Gwyn was a character who meant something and was referenced since the opening cutscene.
So if it ended with the twin princes you would be okay with it? Considering they essentially felt the same role gwyn and allant had in their games.
Soul of cinder was an extra boss really. Like Lothric was the end boss of the game and soul of cinder was the end boss of the dark souls series.
>>338245118
>ours
Anon, even the world you and I play in are different.
When I red eye, I leave my world to fuck with yours.
>>338245443
It's both. Time is convoluted and layered where at certain points, your timeline intersects with a summonable player or npc's timeline. And for a brief instance, you can assist or fight each other.
>>338243071
the giant honestly
>>338245165
Asking a question is fine, but making claims like that anon did without a little bit of background research is just retarded.
>>338243961
No I do, but that wouldn't be fair to ps4
>>338248383
It seems like the beginning of DaS1 and DaS3 take place when the flame is about to die out and someone needs to step up to extend it.
In 1, it's you but in 3 it's Lothric.
But he's pussing out and refusing to fulfill the role. Once you bash his fookin ead in and break what's left of iz bruv's legs, it leaves you to do the job
>Gwyn's theme kicks in with bombastic choir that ruins it
Yeah, it shows how hard they fell.
More style than substance
This final boss is kinda easier than I imaged. Also anyone know about what the update version 1.07 exactly changed? Something about short sword and magic? short sword nerf and magic buff?
>>338249584
Short swords buffed, magic nerfed.
So, was the Soul of Cinder a player character that had linked the fire too?
>>338249584
>Several game flaws fixed.
Oh god could that mean in an hour we have fixed poise?
Also I see nothing about short swords in there.
>>338249950
soul of cinder is an amalgamation of everyone who has linked the flame
so yhes
>>338249950
soul of cinder is effectively every character that has linked the fire
this probably includes the chosen undead from DaS1, solaire, possibly the bearer of the curse, yhorm, aldrich and the abyss watchers.
His second form being gwyn, is almost like you have whittle him down to his core essence, and the instigator of the linking of the fire
>>338250017
>Oh god could that mean in an hour we have fixed poise?
Let it go, they already said poise is working as intended.
>>338250163
But all the lords of cinder linked the flame, right?
Were is ludleth in that fight?
Soul of Cinder's boss weapon should've given you a choice between a firelink version of all the weapons Tbh
>>338250017
>BotDM change
oh shit, let's hope it's good.
>>338250342
>having hope
>>338241350
Am i the only one who couldn't help but roll their eyes when Gwyns theme started playing?
I mean it fits thematically but going through the heaps of needless fucking fanservice in this game it just felt like another "HEY GUYS YOU REMEMBER THAT? YOU LIKED THAT RIGHT" instead of something original.
I have very mixed feelings about Dark Souls 3 overall, and it made me lose interest in the lore of the universe to be honest.
>>338250521
Well it does fit since it's a literal amalgamation of the flame. Though you can assume it's just the Chosen Undead and Gwyn fused together too I guess. Poor DaS2, you're just a lost king, that nobody wants and the Throne of Want is fake as fuck.
>>338250521
The lores in Dark souls was interesting, didn't care too much about the lores in this game but the gameplay is very solid, I've got 5 characters totalling 250 hours. it's fun.
>>338250521
DaS2 killed the lore way more with all the "it is circles and constants and variables and nothing matters" bullshit
Why the fuck do people complain about recurring places and characters in a direct fucking sequel.
Just imagine if other fanbases were as retarded as soulfags.
>hurr sully and drake are in uncharted 2 fucking fanservice.
>>338250783
It's not about recurring places so much as it is about literal 1:1 copypastes of other characters from previous games
Siegward is literally Siegmeyer, and you can't tell me that ALL catarina knights are the fucking same with "hmm.. hmm.... oh!" since Sieglinde had a completely different personality.
And then there's Ludleth literally having dialogue of The Monument from Demon's Souls (which by the way has NO place in Dark Souls, the games aren't connected) Maiden in Bl- i mean the Firekeeper and lazily copypasted Andre into the game with no actual explanation, probably thinking that cucks like you would just say IT'S DEEP GUYS I SWEAR
>>338251034
>Siegward is literally Siegmeyer
Except he is competent brews his own undead beer because apparently catarina is souls germany and he has its own quest related to both patches and yhorm.
You are a whiny cunt and you don't understand the purpose of a direct sequel.
>>338251227
He's still LITERALLY the same personality you fucking cunt
Dumb Miyazaki apologist
>>338251282
One is useless the other one isn't.
Just like you are useless and your classmates weren't.
Being sort of similar doesn't mean you and siegmeyer are not useless.
>>338251351
You're so fucking stupid
>Guys a sequel means that it's not a hack move to have a literaly copy of a character, while saying it's not the same character 10000 years later in the game. Miyazaki is a genius i love to choke on his cock
>>338251436
The choking on cock parts are coming from the voice inside your head. I assume a memory involving your father.
I really don't see anything wrong with it. He is clearly related. How is a similar personality not a normal thing for a descendant.
I don't know what you want.
>>338250342
Nigga all you have to do is make a family share account, and transfer your save over to it.
The reason for this is that new accounts are given priority for dorkmoon, blue sentinel, and furfag invasions.
>>338251282
actually siegward is almost like a direct opposite in actions
siegward, a member of yhorm's little army or whatever was risen by the bell in firelink shrine, just like yhorm.
Years ago however, he made a promise to kill yhorm should he ever rise or fall to the abyss or something, presumably out of the relation he has with the profane flame.
Wheras in dark souls 1, siegmeyer's character is on a journey that eventually unravels itself into him going hollow, with sieglinde having to "end" him, siegward's plotline unravels with him having to do the same thing with yhorm.
It's actually a nice little trick of the character in parts, because I honestly expected to find siegward later in the game dead on the ground with another onion knight standing above him.
When is 1.07 supposed to drop for PC?
They said between 10AM and 12PM, but it's past noon and nothing has been downloaded yet.
>>338250017
They are gonna patch out the dancer glitch?
>>338241350
>I like blatant fanservice xD
Good, I guess. Glad they are done with Souls, holy fuck.
>>338243071
abyss watchers
Wake up.
You're in a coma.
>>338252479
>why has this direct sequels recurring places and characters
>I only play souls games so that is why it confuses me.
>>338252627
keep saying that, DaS3 won't stop being the most forgettable middle-of-the-road entry in the series
>>338252783
I really don't give a fuck about your opinions. I have fun and love das3.
With BB I was irritated by fuckers complaining about the setting and how it wasn't exactly the same.
With DaS3 I don't care. I love it enough that the fanbase could consist completely of bronies and me and I wouldn't hate.
imagine if soulfags weren't kiddies and had played sequels back in the day, which were pretty much direct copies of the first game
>>338253045
>mario in it again?
>holy shit miyamoto you hack. stop it with the fanservice
>tfw died like 25 times to SoC
At least I quickly beat every other boss except Nameless
>>338243542
>he dragonslayer
>riding a dragon
right...
>>338245504
>>338246959
>No love interest.
I put out the flame to free her from being a prisoner to the flame, and spent the final night with her in the dark, free from our cursed duty and fate.
>Ashen one, hearest thou my voice, still?
hng.
>>338243741
DS3 has the best level design in the series. that's enough to make it the superior game. Nobody really cares about story and fanservice
>>338253045
They'd be throwing bitch fits and whining about it in the playground, ultimately getting sent to the retard class because people think they're autistic.
>>338253469
I don't think you know what a dragon is.
>>338253524
>>338247481
>that doesn't resolve anything,
You dont get it... You just dont.
>>338253695
Like the difference between a nigger and black guy right? Well tell that to a member of the KKK, essentially the same thing.
>>338253469
>not knowing that's Gwyn's firstborn and that he sided with the Dragons and lost the Annals of History which is why he was banished
>>338243541
yeah i played the game through with a couple of friends, but when i co-oped in their world to beat him it just felt bad so i soloed him for my world and it was such a sick boss fight, especially because he hadn't used magic the first two times.
>>338243071
Crippled and Crippleder
>>338243698
I know exactly what you mean. I got a guy I'm pretty happy with now, just reached Irithyll with him.
>>338243914
It was literally Dark Souls: The Boss
I couldn't think of a better sendoff to the series. Especially when you let the flame finally die and put an end to things once and for all.
>>338244786
>no Carthus Rouge spell
>Crystal Magic Weapon doesn't also inflict a small amount of bleed
>>338256263
>Especially when you let the flame finally die and put an end to things once and for all.
Literally doesn't happen because
>LOL CYCLES LMAO
>>338246543
I think it's just testing you to see if your soul is worthy to link the fire. I mean, you already failed once.
>>338244676
but artorias, a guy in armour, was a better boss than manus
I thought the Firelink Set was the most thematically fitting of the poster boy sets, it's just a pity it does the same stupid thing as Artorias' armour and practically ignores your character's actual physique in favour of looking like a skelly encased in armour; which I guess is the point.
>>338250521
>Am i the only one who couldn't help but roll their eyes when Gwyns theme started playing?
Yes. You are a colossal faggot who should probably stop playing video games.
>>338244826
I was actually so happy when he killed me with that, just so awesome
>>338256339
Letting the flame die ends the constant linking and diminishing of the fire, and eventually letting it return naturally without Gwyn's fucked up bullshit. It ends the cycle of dudes burning themselves to prolong a shitty dying age that's finally reached the apex of shittiness in DaS3
>>338256529
>tfw stood behind him when he did that
>still get caught in it and die cause I'm a glass cannon
>>338245253
yeah i wish I'd read all the pontiff stuff before i got to him because i just killed some random dude with 2 swords at the end
Nostalgia is the laziest emotional string any videogame developer can pull to evoke a reaction from the audience when creating a game.
It's low-effort tier garbage that only affects people who are already familiar with the series and does absolutely nothing for those who've never had the pleasure to enjoy whatever other cooked up garbage the company produced. Developers that fall back to suck lazy tactics should seriously reconsider their position in the industry, whoever came up with the idea should get tortured or hanged and the entire game needs to be scrapped and remade to not give people the false impression that they only removed it to appease the audience that called them on their retardation.
Miyazaki lost his marbles and needs to be removed from the company.
>>338256769
> ds3 was my first dark souls: the post.
>>338244130
>dwarf
Aggro him in das1.
>>338256769
It's a direct sequel you moron. Please end yourself.
>>338245954
I cant stop wearing the set, I try and create my own fashion souls like ds2 but i keep coming back to that sexy firelink
>>338256634
No it doesn't, that's part of the cycles. The only end to them isn't known, but hopefully that's what the bearer of the curse and Aldia wanted to seek in DaS2's DLC ending and HOPEFULLY DaS3's DLC will acknowledge this instead of just pretending nothing in that game fucking happened.
>>338246686
its not the same thing its worse
