Anyone tried Far Harbor yet? Is it any good? Fallout 4 thread.
It's slightly better than the steaming turd that is the base game, but that's not saying much.
>>338224625
Only an hour in so far. Not gonna a lie, the story actually has me really intriguied this time.
>>338225072
Fuck you. If you didn't like FO4 or the DLC you wouldn't be playing them.
>>338225208
I pirated them
They're worth the price of free, when you can mod them.
If I only had consoles I wouldn't have bothered
>>338224625
>Non meme/non generic /v/ hate answer incoming:
>It's a really good DLC.
I've honestly sunk in about 23 hours into the DLC (beta user) and I have not completely done everything. There are a lot of locations, and the quest line is pretty damn good if you do it right. It's worth the money, that's for sure. It really does give the Point Lookout vibe in some respects, but it does have it's own feel as well. I have to say, the atmosphere of the Island is really well done. If you have the money, try it out.
I just started a new playthrough. I really like the aesthetic of the place. I have no idea where the overarching story will go, but it reminds me of that movie from a few years back- the fog or whatever in a new england town, and there's "something" hiding in it.
I'm playing on very hard though and everything is ridiculously bullet spongy. I hate that I might need to turn down the difficulty, but I'm always heading back to town for more ammo, it's retarded. I wish survival mode was less stupid about some things and I would play that (oh you wanted to save by napping for three hours in a sleeping bag? Enjoy your -50% ap regen illness)
>>338225654
What level do I have to be in order to visit/progress on it?
>>338225942
I don't think it's a level cap (not really sure), but I do know that you have to complete one of the main story quests with Nick Valentine. After that, the quest just shows up.
Better than base game.
Writing is a lot better, Far Harbor is an excellently-designed location, and there are multiple turnouts for all 3 factions.
Basically an example as to how the main game should have been structured.
Only thing missing is the reimplemented RPG mechanics they removed.
How many more DLCs are there?
When is the GOTY edition coming?
>>338226070
Do you need to take Nick? If not, who would you recommend?
>>338226097
Also, make sure you bring Nick or else you'll miss out on some really interesting origin story bits between Dima and Nick.
>>338226070
I played the game just far enough to get to the fort you find kellogg in. I went back to Diamond city to stock up and got the lead in quest announcement then. I think I was 10 or 11, but it might be story driven.
Nick isn't mandatory, but I think he's the "expected" companion, as the reason you go to far harbour is to help him with a job.
>>338225857
Been playing on Survival.
Such a fucking pain in the ass. It's mostly not being able to savescum - let alone save at all.
>>338226172
I know they have more DLC planned. Some of it was leaked as being more shitty ass settlement items that no one should have to pay for. Hopefully they'll be making more Far Harbor tier DLC.
>>338226192
Game dangled a new follower in front of me right as I entered the synth HQ. Should I reload?
>>338226182
Like >>338226210 stated, Nick is not required. There is a new companion that the DLC offers. You can take any companion from the main game you'd like as well. I personally didn't use any companions, but it's up to your personal choice as to whether or not you want Nick or someone else. There were actually a few moments in the DLC where I think I could have heard some more dialogue if Nick was there, so maybe you could try taking him for that.
>Play the game for around 144 hours
>Constantly re-start to try out different builds
>Farthest I've gotten in the MSQ was rescuing Nick
>Explored darn near 50% of the map tho
>Stopped playing months ago, told myself I'd make a new character on survival and get balls-deep into it
>Can't get into it, I just close the game after playing for 5 minutes
I've ruined the game for myself bros..I don't know if I'll ever get to play the DLC at this rate.I honestly blame mods as well. I play for a bit and think about changing something in-game and I fiddle with some mods for a bit then lose interest and go do something else.
>>338226278
Yeah, I started my save on survival and turned it off after a few hours. It was just too tedious.
I really liked the damage output levels and don't mind the only saves for sleeping, but the illnesses are over the top. The water and food isn't too bad and adrenaline is an interesting mechanic, but catching parasites every time I kill a mongrel or getting an illness every time I sleep for less than 8 hours is fucking stupid.
Also, with the massive carryweight reduction and complete exclusion of fast travel, it makes settlements a total fucking chore, if you even care about them. There are mods to add in bits and pieces, but the illnesses being so anti-fun just made me go to very hard.
>>338225208
No one but the normiest of normies care about it. And even they're not as ecstatic about it as they were about Fallout 3. Says a lot honestly.
>>338226501
You should honestly just do a quick run through the main story on easy so you can play the DLC. Then switch back to your preferred difficulty. I always keep a completed vanilla save for DLC so I can play it in it's truest form.
>>338226523
I started vanilla on survival and got used to the mechanics. When new survival dropped it reverted me back to very hard and I don't like the instant health system. Used to be able to build up health then gradually get it all back, now I'm just wasting supplies.
So new survival you do more damage? I'd gladly start a new game and get aids rather than deal with another health sponge enemy.
>use one of the first weapons that the game plainly gives out to you
>get a couple of perks that enhance your sneak damage
>get a perk that makes your one-handed weapons make more damage
>you one shot everyone and no one can ever find you while you're sneak critting the shit out of everything on the highest difficulty
Man I didn't even try to break the game, why did it suddenly become so fucking easy?
>>338226983
New survival you do more and take more. Very hard is like, double enemy damage and half of yours. I always really like very hard from the midgame on, but early is fucking miserable and getting tapped by a bandit with a pool cue one shots you (seriously).
Survival's damage feels pretty fair and fun, but everything else about it is either meh or tedious enough to wreck my enjoyment. And once you change to a difficulty other than survival you can't revert back, which makes sense, but just so you know.
>>338226380
Maybe, did you already meet DiMA? If so, I dunno if you'll be able to have him and Nick talk.
Butbasically they're 'brothers' of sort. Beta tests made at the same time, DiMA was made from straight technology and of course Nick was made via putting someones consciousness into a synth body. DiMA helped Nick escape, but Nick doesn't remember any of this. DiMA says that their type can only hold so much memory in their heads so Nick may have forgotten this stuff because of that, and it's sort of true since a big portion of the story is tracking down DiMA's backup memories that are located within the Children of Atom's base.
>>338224625
I was having fun up until the code block puzzle section.
I now have stage 7 cancer.
i played it a couple weeks ago, showed a few pics too, it's a fun and neato experience especially with the choices near the end.
>>338226182
I recommend Codsworth after you deck him out from the automatron dlc.
>>338227282
>code block puzzle section
I just started it, is it really that bad?
>still no mod to keep X6 in the Minutemen ending
>>338227524
It's Portal.
>>338227524
Last one will make you hate yourself.
>>338227524
Every other one but the last one is easy, I sat around for way longer than I should have for this shit. The thought of making a new character and doing this makes me want to slit my wrists and putting the bloody blade down my urethra than play through that again
>minor circlejerk when FO4 comes out
>dies for a year
>minor circlejerk when DLC comes out
Like
Pottery
>>338227637
I enjoyed X6, especially when he gives you his speech saying that he likes you and respects you.
I hadn't played the game for a while and I left off on survival mode pre patch across the map from my homebase and I load in with over 2klbs of ammo at the sunshine settlement which I was working on. Just about to reach the castle to get some vertibird flares and then it's far harbor time
>>338226501
>144 hours
Holy shit, are you autistic?
Nobody I've talked even spent 20 hours on the game, how the fuck did you salvage enough to get 150 god damn hours?
>>338227883
Well FO4 came out in November, so it hasn't been that long.
And Far Harbor actually seems really good so far. Not as good as Old World Blues or Shivering Isles, but very solid and enjoyable, and by all accounts longer than FO DLC normally is.
>>338227883
>Discussing a game is circlejerking.
Go back to your console war or e-celeb thread then
>>338224625
Yeah, 1 week ago, no it's shit what the fuck did you expect from Todd
I can't stand the Children of Atom, are their sidequests worth doing?
>>338228047
>discussing a game
If the game was so good then why did discussion die out for 7 months?
Hell, 5 bucks discussion will die out by tomorrow
>>338228014
I've got 254 hours so that's nothing. It's called playing vidya that you personally enjoy and not being a jaded bitter faggot that only plays /v/ approved games
>>338228014
I restarted the game like, 3 times, each after spending about 50 hours just exploring the map.I have aspergers. So technically yes, I am autistic.
>>338228118
You get to buy the wetsuit gear and some sweet children of atom marine armor with paint jobs
You also get a unique super sledge and helmet as far as Ive gone through.
>>338228142
When did I say it was good? I personally enjoy it but that's irrelevant to the post. This thread happens to be people that enjoyed the game and are discussing it. I doubt anyone here will claim that this game is GOTY.
>>338228085
Adding this gun was the best thing they've done to the game so far, imo.
The fucking lack of real world weapons for these fucking godawful pipe weapons and.. this monstrosity.. will never be forgiven in my opinion.
>>338227153
I was playing on a high intelligence/luck build so I was super squishy and had to rely on building crits first then doing burst damage with sniper headshots. Didn't work too well most times because of the legendary bullshit.
Radscorpions I'd imagine would be bullshit too. They instantly teleport right next to you when they burrow underground. I've tested it a few times. Tried sniping one from I dunno, few hundred meters and seconds later it's nipping my heels.
Can the vertibird signal grenades be used in far harbor?
>>338228218
>/v/ approved
Not one person I've met blew anything over 20 hours
How the shit did you spend 260 hours in the game? Its not a matter of "le jaded outcast", its a matter of there isn't 260 hours worth of fucking content
>>338228362
mind taking a screen shot of the helmet? I don't very much care about melee weapons and I already bought a full set of their armor, and I found the wetsuit gear
>>338228476
Okay, let me rephrase myself
If people really did "enjoy" the game, then why did they let discussion die out
I mean, you spent hundreds of hours on a game and you can't even talk about it?
>>338228783
It's shit
>>338228829
I've no Idea to be honest, I usually just do that with my friends or play the game. Not sure why you're trying to argue about a game you don't like.
>>338228874
What with retarded legendaries like that? Being 50% radiated not worth the 5 INT you earn.
>>338228745
Opinions aren't facts anon.did you max out all settlements? Get all companions, endings, perks, comics, collectables? Why don't you stop trying to sound like some sort of badass and kindly leave
>>338228476
>I doubt anyone here will claim that this game is GOTY.
Has some very screenshot-able scenery and the chaotic moments whether scripted or not were very enjoyable but yeah, game is shit.
Dialogue system is fucked. NPC's will walk away from me mid-dialogue. Who the fuck approved that? Also getting settlement happiness to 100 is an absolute fucking chore and doesn't even matter in the end since settlements are glorified resource farms. And the invincible NPC's are just....why? For story reasons? You go full retard and murder-death-kill everything anyways because the mc is a tool.
Still enjoyable.
>>338229898
If them using the wiki as a source of info saves time that can be used for more important things, then I don't see the problem.
I'll wait till the ultimate edition comes out goty or whatever
>>338230427
When I read that i see they don't even have an in house lore master. Someone on staff should know the lore by heart, no?
>>338225857
>Playing on the highest difficulty.
>Complains about the increased health of enemies.
Dude really?
>>338229898
That cannot be real. Seems very lazy.
I wrote a full eighty-five thousand works book when I was 18. I made it all tie together well too with a decent flow and this man who makes millions finds that hard work? Don't believe it.
>>338228745
I'm sorry for you if you can't enjoy anything.
>$24.99
Nice try, Todd.
>>338228829
Maybe its because every time a F4 thread is made, tons of /v/'s resident autists come in and start insulting everyone for playing it?
Maybe that? You fucking retard.
Discussion didn't even die out, every thread about it just started with "THIS GAME SUCKS REEEEEEEEE".
>>338228517
If you knew anything about the history of automatic rifles, you would know that model actually makes a lot of sense. Toward the begging of their design they would have large barrels used like heat-sinks to keep the gun from melting.
>>338232223
Thats kool dude. Shame all I know is the history of fallout and that cold war reject doesn't belong.
>>338229898
>let me publicly release a statement that says something bad about another company
What a professional. I don't even like Bethesda but that's a pretty cunt move there.
>>338228014
Found the atustic fag
>>338233074
What are you, a suit? As a consumer insight into the practices of a company i might do business with is a great thing and Avellone once again earns my applause.
Miles more professional than Schafer at least.
>>338229528
>max out all settlements
The settlement system is boring as shit tho, its completely underdeveloped and shallow
>companions
There aren't that many companions
>endings
all two endings?
>perks
Thats really a collectible or reply factor to you, anon?
The other stuff I understand, though, but fucking hell
250 hours? Even with trinkets there isn't 250 hours worth of content
>>338228517
isn't that gigantic fucking heatsink based off the Lewis gun? Like everyone else says it would make sense as an LMG, for the assault rifle tey should have used an Ak or M16 model.
>>338233653
>There aren't that many companions
Is 8 too few? How many companions do you want?
>settlements
I don't like it either, but some people actually have the autism to make neat things.
>>338233845
>it would make sense as an LMG
Anon. We could've had a fucking M-60 and it would be lore solid and badass instead of a gun with no precedent coming from out of nowhere aping at an aesthetic fallout doesn't need to follow.
We could've had a firing animation and gun model with belted .50cal rounds draped over a power armored fore arm. Ohhhh it hurts so bad....
For the assault rifle, bethesda didn't even need to try. They had chinese assault rifles r-91s. No idea why they threw those aside.
>>338233653
>>companions
>There aren't that many companions
Off the top of my head,
Dogmeat (free space)
Piper
Valentine
Strong
Mcreedy
Curie
"Why cant the institute just leave us alone" guy
Cait
X-somethin or other
Codsworth
That all the base ones?
>>338234514
Curie is my waifu.
>>338234514
you forgot ada - the robot chick and smoehow you forgot the minutemen nigger
If i bought the base game, can i pirate all the DLC? if so how does it work?
>>338234775
After she admitted her admiration and love for me I ditched her in the middle of a swamp. Collecting the companion perks made me into a monster. I now just collect them in the Mechanists Lair like living dolls.
>>338226172
2 more Workshop Wasteland parts and a DLC called "Nuka World" have been datamined from patches and Far Harbors release.
>>338235038
Ada is dlc, and Preston was the "Why can't the etc". I left him at Sanctuary and besides farting out random quests and sulking it was literally all he would say.
>>338234514
Dogmeat
Preston
Piper
Valentine
Strong
Macready
Cure
Deacon
Cait
X-66
Codsworth
Ada(doesnt really count in my opinion, neat little character though)
Old Longfellow.
Literally twice as many as new vegas rofl.
>>338227074
Every bethesda RPG has broken stealth mechanics. Melee too.
>>338226501
Why the fuck are you trying out builds in a Bethesda game? There is no balance, everything will be broken after a while. They all pretty much play the same the only thing different is percentage values.
>>338235530
Ah, forgot Deacon.You can't trust everyone]. And Longfellow the only new follower in Point Loo-err Far Harbor?
>>338235530
yeah and all they do is literally get in your way
>>338235315
I had most of them at the mechanist lair for a good while too, then I moved most to the castle and sanctuary when I started bothering with settlements. Curie is usually my companion tho that cute French accent is the best. The robots I've created are far too OP as companions and destroy everything in one or two even in survival. They are now used as settlement security
>>338235530
and they are all literally a detriment
>>338235768
>>338235835
What does that have to do with what I posted?
>>338224625
can I play the dlc pirated if I own the main game on steam like before?
>>338235530
>Valentine
>cant give him the shroud outfit
still mad
>>338235915
............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................_no
>>338228014
Do you actually play the games you buy?
>>338235835
They give you one extra perk, tied to at least one quest, and are mainly pack mules for junk you find; so they have some use. But if you're doing a stealth build they are absolutely the worst.
>>338236037
FUCK. Not paying for it then. That game is a piece of shit.
>>338236260
That anon is fucking with you anon of course you can. Theyre packaged the same way mods are so no DRM.
>>338236178
>But if you're doing a stealth build they are absolutely the worst.
their detection is separate from yours. in stealth builds they're aggro sponges who don't attack until personally detected or if you fire.
>>338233447
>insight into the practices of a company
Only it's not. It boils down to literal shit-talking. And yes, he is more professional than the shaved baboon given 3.3 million dollars twice, but that's not saying much.
Also ya. Suit. I suppose that's why I value not crying to the press about shit. It's like prisoners with snitches, only much less violent and much more passive aggressive.
>>338236513
THAT was crying to the press? Shit-talking? You are a passive aggressive lot.
Bethesda lost absolutely nothing with that statement save for arming some Obsidian fans with shitposting material.
>>338236178
They also fuck your shit hard in early survival mode by aggroing fights you don't want to be in
I'm playing and just saw an option I missed in my Miscellaneous tab. It says to tell the Brotherhood about Arcadia. What happens if I do it?
>>338236779
>You are a passive aggressive lot.
I'm pretty sure I just admitted that senpai. Though most of people in my line of work are. Outright aggression is a career killer in most cases, but so is taking it. And it's not what it costs Bethesda, its what it costs him. He made a statement, minor and pointless that it was, that did nothing but paint a company he had experience working with in a poor light. It makes him the business equivalent of that girl that talks about everyone behind their back.
>>338224625
>is it good
have you played fallout 4?
>>338237060
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fallout+4+brotherhood+arcadia
>>338236837
I became cowardly Aquaman and frequently jumped into lakes to escape trouble.
Came here just to bitch.
I'm so mad, I had to go back to a previous save and lost 7 hours of progress because if you side with the railroad and get the teleporter built before joining the brotherhood, and start Mass Fusion before finishing Outside the Wire, you can't do Blind Betrayal and stay in the institutes good graces. If you do try and talk to Ingram after fucking up like I did you'll end up snitching to her about the institute and she'll hop on the Velibird immediately and you'll only beable to give her the holotape afterwards, and if you order her to stay the option to get her the holotape won't come up until you finish Mass Fusion.
I just want to smash Danse before I betray the brotherhood. :(
>>338237150
>I'm pretty sure I just admitted that senpai
I wasn't being declarative, it was written intentionally reiterative.
>"i'm bad at guitar"
*plays song (badly)
>"Wow, you really are bad at guitar!"
Costs him? I get what you're saying. If you don't have anything nice to say have your public relations team type up something unoffensive to release, but again, as a consumer I appreciate knowing that Bethesda needs a wiki to for it's lore and story telling and as a non business minded person, it reads exceedingly inoffensive and worded in a far less than damning tone. If I ever end up partnering up in my brother's business, I hope I'll never become so sensitive as to read too far into something like Avellone wrote.
>>338237060
Why don't you just tell them and see what happens you stupid fuck? This is part of playing the fucking game.
When can we pirate far harbour? I bought the game and i'm not making that mistake again.
>sarcastic
>>338237879
nu-gamers need to reference guides so that they never have to face consequences for their actions
>fallout 4
No
>>338237947
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=far+harbor+torrent
>anything that can deal damage to me shows up
>pop Psycho
>shoot missiles at the ground and walls
>pull out combat shotgun and clean up
The game is piss easy if you use the right weapons. Full big guns/demolitions, full tank perks, rest in charisma for cheap missiles master race.
>>338229898
The wiki doesn't have all the info they should need. Not just incomplete descriptions but the actual notes used for all of the past things they've made.
>I decided to have character say x to flesh out y plot point
>while creating location B2 we noticed x clashed with y's intended vision of Z, so we reworked it
They shouldn't need a wiki because they should have a lore bible, what this shows is that they don't document their own writing or brainstorming/creative meetings or that if they do it's apparently not important enough to organize. I shouldn't have to explain why this is full retard when it comes to a team of people writing together.
>>338237742
>go to turn in unrelated quest
>betrayal quest appears as (optional)
>character starts instantly blabbing
>every quest is fucked now
Every ending was awful anyways. Sided with Railroad because it was the most fun to do. But their leader was a huge bitch. Just wanted to cap everyone anyways.
>>338237815
Wow, you sure proved me wrong with that cool analogy to guitars. Look at it like this. You have two groups both producing the same general type of item, however due to the nature of the market neither is in direct competition. They work together and produce a product that is profitable, then they part ways. One group can't expect to be able to turn around and say "I REALLY SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, but man, those guys over there really do this one thing bad."
>sensitive
Listen, no matter the statement, if it requires you to say before it "I shouldn't say this" and it's about someone else. You should probably shut your trap because people do read into this type of thing, especially in business.
>>338226501
Go play STALKER
And honestly anyone looking for the "fallout" experience go play it.
>>338238518
>Wow, you sure proved me wrong with that cool analogy to guitars.
Proved you wrong? About what? Your misinterpretation? If so, then yeah. Glad I could correct you. Any time broseph.
>...
I'll defer to you entirely on inter studio relationships. That aside, I'm glad he said it as a consumer.
Further, on the business side of things, I'm led to understand that regardless of this statement, Bethesda and Obsidian look positively toward the possibility for future collaboration.
CREATING KIT WHEN
Would I like the dlc if I didn't like fallout 4 but liked 3 and new Vegas
>>338234367
I think bethesda is trolling people.
It gets so close to making good games, and completely fails.
It shows you everything you want and then shits on it in front of you.
Like everything is happy and awesome :) in sanctuary, they don't mention that your post-war furlogh is ending and you your wife need to both find jobs in a no-humans wanted workforce, with too many skilled lawyers and soldiers in it. There's nothing on the news about the mysterious school lockdown with all students missing because they turnd into pink zombies the day before the apocalypse.
It's like they have some good writers hidden on staff but they have to shove them into designing small pieces that can't poke up into the real game.
They give you power armor! Zomg power armor!
But it's hardly noticeably better than normal armor? You can mod it! You're a goddamn space marine. But you can't turn on all the mods you want all the time, even at max level.
They write in something really good like 'is he a synth or isn't he? you'll never know!
Unless you kill him. He's a synth.
No 'you refuse to check him for a synth part, you cannot bear to know if you murdered an innocent brother'
Just over and over they shit on you.
>>338239407
If you liked point lookout I suppose you can.
>try playing Fallout 4
>just constantly think about how I'd rather be playing New Vegas or Fallout 3 with my favorite mods instead
>>338226501
Why don't you just use cheats to give yourself all perks and skills with max SPECIAL?
>>338239510
>try nv fully modded
>the map is completely empty
for why? for literal why?
>>338239681
Speak English.
>>338236178
Survival mode makes pack mule companions discouraged or something. The higher weight increases their cool down times.
>>338239681
clearly you don't have enough mods installed.
>>338239507
What is point lookout
>>338239413
>No 'you refuse to check him for a synth part, you cannot bear to know if you murdered an innocent brother'
That would be complete bullshit and worthy of complaint
The real question is, have they learnt from the poor reception on release? Do conversations actually have weight or is it still just 3 ways to say yes and a sarcastic answer?
It's literally "Point Lookout 2: Synth boogalo".
So yeah, it's pretty fun.
>>338239853
The pet name I gave my penis
>>338239887
They haven't changed the formula of the dialogue, but the writing itself is a lot better.
You can actually make choices now too. IE just kill on of the major factions almost right off the bat if ya want.
>>338239749
but for why would i do that?
would it make new vegas any less shit?
>>338239885
No. you're why we can't have nice things.
You're a little pussy that can't let a question stay ambiguous in a piece of writing because you need it tied up with a little bow on it like you're still in 6th fucking grade reading hardy boys.
Well you caught the bad guy and shot him in the head, and you got the mcguffin out of him that proved he was a bad guy.
>>338237060
Hi kyle
>>338240008
I guess that's better
Assuming I haven't finished the main quest line yet, for the best immersion, in what point of the plot does it make the most sense to initiate Far Harbor?
>>338239887
mommy
>>338224625
I'm playing through it on PS4 right now, although I'm only about three hours in, or so. So there's that.
My character is level 68 right now and her gear outclasses everything I've found so far, in the near area. Sometimes by quite a bit, sometimes by not that much at all. Some of the new armour looks neat, but that's about it.
The story, I can't comment on much, I'm not that far into it; that being said, I'm intrigued to find out more and that's staying a lot. The atmosphere of the new area though, its absolutely fantastic. Its creepy, dark, beautiful, everything I was hoping for. It also has frame rate issues that I can't ignore. It makes combat extremely difficult and exploration much less enjoyable. I'd find a new area or landmark and think "I should approach with caution, frame rate might fuck me if I get attacked." That just shouldn't happen, if you ask me. I shouldn't have those thoughts.
If they fixed the frame rate issues, I'd be happy with it. Right now, I can't say I'd recommend it for the price. Maybe wait a while before picking it up; hopefully those issues will be addressed and the DLC will become a tad more stable.
>>338224625
holy shit lone wanderer synth confirmed in dialogue
>>338240459
>Playing a Bethesda game on console.
>>338240106
No, you're what happens when a writer gets too far up his own ass to let readers or players behave like a real person would instead of masking things in needless ambiguity because you think that means a story is better for it for some reason.
Ambiguity has it's place in story telling, but not when you're in a supposedly choice driven game where answers are at your finger tips. You probably thought Fawkes "destiny" bullshit was a good idea too.
>but he's immune to radiation, why can't he just enter the chamber. didn't I fulfill my destiny by fighting tooth and nail to get here? why do I need to die?
>lol, it's destiny dude. its just 2deep12u. you wouldn't understand. where's my PEN/Faulkner award?!?!
>>338225208
I tried the game and it was shit. Deal with it you fucking retard.
Should I have played New Vegas of Fo3 first? I did get a little bit into Fallout 3 but I hated it, probably because I was too young and inexperienced with open world games. I think I'll go back and play them now, or is it even worth it?
>>338240968
NV is always worth playing
>>338240968
If you play nv first you will not be able to stand 3.
If you really want to play 3, install tale of two wasteland mod, it will put fallout 3 into new vegas and allow for a much better experience.
>>338240579
If you spend the whole game aping blade runner, you could do it the solid of keeping shit ambiguous.
How about the part is randomly generated or not?
>>338236837
Made Animal Friend useless because they kept attacking passified animals.
>>338232223
> makes a lot of sense
> water cooling sleeve over barrel a-la Lewis gun
>"""""assault rifle"""""
No. Just no.
A better argument would be that if you knew anything about guns, you'd know that design is retarded. Shit must weigh a tonne, would be unusable. You wouldn't carry around and shoulder-fire a Vickers MG, would you?
>>338240335
Anyone?
>>338241721
>How about the part is randomly generated or not?
Save it for non player driver narratives. A player should be rewarded for picking up dialogue hints as to the right answer and not have his choices rendered null by RNG. If you're penning a novel or playing a DMPC in a tabletop game or anything where the goal is to deliver a narrative driven experience instead of robbing players of their agency, then you can have your character act out their turmoil over the horror of having shot a human or a synth.
>aping blade runner
They didn't even add a LAPD 2019 blaster even the the fucking gun EXISTS in the Fallout universe and was in the game directly preceding this title. If that's what their aping of BR looks like, then I'd rather they not even attempt ambiguity.
Remember in Diamond City when the guy shot his "brother" then the guards shoot him? I don't even remember if either had synth parts, but if that's supposed to be bethesda's attempt at ambiguity, then they can leave it out. Beyond ambiguity and back to player choice and skill checks, they also missed an opportunity to flex your negotiating skills or your strength (to restrain the gun holding brother) then investigate the situation. That would've been a good exercise of agency and a good quest to tie into the noir themes the begin and end with Nick Valentine, his kidnapping, his quest, and his office.
Anyway. No. Randomly generated would be agency stealing bullshit.
>>338242574
>muh agency
There is no agency. The brotherhood scribes give you actionable intelligence but it is from the institute computers themselves, and they're certainly smart enough and motivated to want such a valuable paladin dead.
There is no reason why he 100% needed to be a synth. The brotherhood acting on wrong intel would have been fantastic.
>>338241962
After finishing Nicks/his assistant's quests and finding shaun.
Narrative wise, you shouldn't be stopping for hours to turn desk fans into homes for the incompetent, you should be tirelessly rushing main story quests until things resolve, then doing everything else.
>>338242574
Your agency is to shoot him on the orders.
Your agency is to choose to check him for the part.
It's fact if he is or isn't a synth.
Leaving it random seems legit and leaves you agency and lets my writer boner rest. It's your story line where he was/wasn't a synth.
Is there any reason why I shouldn't completely eliminate Children of Atom? They attack my Minutemen bros on the mainland and these guys seem like cocks too. Far Harbor guys seem decent if mistrusting.Just got past the part when I find out Avery was replaced
>>338242876
>innocent brother
I thought you were talking about the actual brother synth situation. I wasn't even thinking of the brotherhood. I can't faily comment on any of their quests available once the Prydwen shows up as I haven't played any of them, but from what I understand of the situation you spelled out, the answer correct answer should exist if you have the skills to divulge the correct information beyond doubt.
That said, it would be interesting if they acted on false intelligence as long his being a synth or not isn't dependent on your dialogue choices or random chance.
>>338242994
>it's your storyline
No, you let a synth live and were fooled is the storyline, you just don't realize it and that's okay.
Sowhen DiMa asks if you're a synth or not, he brings up some decent points. Is the SS a synth?
>>338243551
Probably not. Is the entire fallout universe a WW2 manhattan project scientist's nightmare?
>>338243329
I've seen players argue it was spelled out 100%, but I think they trust the intelligence too much. On the other hand, maybe I give the institute too much credit for passing bad intelligence to the brotherhood.
[spoier] on the other hand I think the institute reveals they detected the network probe that got the intel, and let you leave with it because you are trusted[/spoiler]
It could even just be brotherhood politics, someone was surprised thatDantzwas alive after being sent on a suicide mission, so they found a way to fix that by accusing him of being a synth.
>>338227074
fucking blitz
>>338243687
>It could even just be brotherhood politics, someone was surprised thatDantzwas alive after being sent on a suicide mission, so they found a way to fix that by accusing him of being a synth.
That's all cool too. It'd be great if there were notes and whispering suggesting that (but nothing conclusive), but the writing should be strong enough to organically fool the player or drive him to dig for the answers. Schrodinger's brotherhood synth is just cheap. It's admitting that you need to fudge reality to get the story you want because you can't write it well enough.
So is the new guy a permanent companion or dlc only companion?
>>338243864
Why did everything in the translation from Fallout 3 to Fallout 4 get chunkier? The scrawny, bean-stalk Deathclaws were clearly perfect.
>>338238175
>Combat shotgun with bleed
>With psycho and whatever chem slows time
Gee, it doesn't even matter your armor can block my shots, u dunt bleeding out now boi.
in a western way of thinking BIGGER IS BETTER
>>338243472
I had the son-bot killed, I thought that was actionable.
I didn't think intelligence we had been handed on a silver platter from a faction we were at war with was actionable. especially when it told us to assassinate one of the most senior members of the brotherhood, and the one with the most intelligence on the area.
Literally the perfect person they could choose to have the brotherhood assassinate is also the perfect one for them to infilitrate as a synth... except would they have the means to eliminate a paladin? They couldn't get that crazy old guy out of his hidey hole in 10 years or whatever. Dantz had a squad with him, but somehow when he went to the bathroom or whatever they nabbed him?
perfectly ambiguous. Should have left it that way. That would been my choice. I looted the body because I knew Bethesda wanted me to know, and that they spell it out for us every time. I say that was taking away my agency, really I didn't want to know, but the meta-knolwedge that "SYNTH PART" is in his inventory made me check.
Either way clearly he goes down in the brotherhood ledgers as a synth.
>>338227074
>>338243864
>tfw my first character was a melee tank with explosives assuming this shit was going to be anything like the previous games
>tfw minimal agility so no blitz
>tfw using this character in the DLC at a high difficulty
The only way I can really make it work with melee is to always be in power armor in third person with a super sledge or the big hook, because for some reason there's a bug or something that lets them swing fast as fuck and you just stunlock shit to death hoping you can tank enough damage to put them down. Melee is fucking ass outside of stealth.
>>338243927
>It's admitting that you need to fudge reality to get the story you want because you can't write it well enough.
That's why I used it as an example of Bethesda giving you what you want and then shitting on it in front of you.
The ambiguous writing is all there, it could go either way, but they just drop it on you. 'nope, he's a synth.'
>>338244258
I supplement some of melee's weakness with with drugs
the side effects are too easy to get rid of
>>338244313
Ambiguity can be appreciated in the time leading up to the unveiling of the truth. Permanent ambiguity isn't the only way.
>tfw it's rumored that there will be 2 more Wasteland Workshop dlcs
Why the FUCK did I buy that fucking season pass?!
I got it for 26 bucks and I feel like I got scammed.
is there Stephen King stuff in it? i know Todd loves his obvious Lovecraft, but this is Maine.
>>338244682
I told myself I wasn't going to buy another Bethesda game after skyrim. I still fell for the bait because I explicitly wanted the generic crafting system and (something like) the trade routes they implemented.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.... ain't gonna get fooled a a third time.
Bethesda (moreso obsidian) had a real nice DLC system going. 4-5 more or less substantial DLCs, most of which with their own game spaces.
The offerings so far just make me miss the Sierra Madre and Big MT.
>>338244789
>ain't gonna get fooled a a third time.
We'll see about that, faithful consumer.
>>338227074
It's not that easy you need to be like level 30, stop lying.
>>338244789
The good thing about Bethesda games is that no matter how shitty the base game, there is always this insane modding community that will fix literally everything.
I fixed the ugly ass character models, the shitty dialogue system and the non-scrapable environment in settlements so far.
Its a bit of a shame that Bethesda is incapable of making a great game on their own, I feel like they almost rely on the community to fix their shit.
>>338244258
>Went for 10 STR 10 END Unarmed build
>Shit has like 3 weapons
>Use Swan's fist since level 10
I've been trying out the improved survival mode rather than the DLC, and I'm kinda having a tough time with it
>>338240548
Good contribution retard
>>338245053
>4 fist weapons in the whole game
What the hell. Melee at least gives you variety even if most of it swings the same.
Bethesda hates melee/unarmed I'm convinced. New Vegas was good for both because it wasn't Bethesda, and 1 and 2 are great for both. Unarmed is Fist of the North Star fun in 1/2 and melee lets you hit like a truck and knock enemies halfway across the map. You swing so slow in 4 and the damage is equal to one shot of any good rifle. Does anyone have that quote where Todd said he was surprised people made melee builds in Fallout 3?
>>338245230
salty baby buttmad numale console kiddie tard upset as hell and mommy isn't here to calm him down
>>338234367
An unfinished chine assault rifle model exists in the game files labeled as "assault rifle"
The complete models for the final assault rifle we ended up getting are labelled "LMG"
Bethesda didn't finish shit in time basically and instead of getting both an LMG and an assault rifle they just took the LMG and called it Assault Rifle
>>338245680
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
>>338224625
It's just a rehash of Point Lookout with slightly better story.
>>338246939
They're both really different in many ways. Can you substantiate that beyond the word swamp and boat?
>got 2 hours in
>already bored
Its just the main game, but smaller
>>338247180
missing daughter is the best he can do
>>338247180
The only real notable differences are that the boat you take to go there actually moves this time instead of instant teleporting, and there are no mutated rednecks.
>mfw finally getting round to playing Survival
>mfw base building actually has some importance because you can get water and a bed and so on
>mfw weak as shit enemies dealing a fair amount of damage
>mfw saving only upon sleep means planning routes through areas that are likely to have beds
>2 hours in and not even at Concord yet
Shit's fun.
Can someone please just spoil the entire story for me
Cant be fucked finishing it
>>338247393
I am planning to restart for the far harbor dlc as well to play on new survival, the only thing that bothers me is having to do the lame intro stuff, I forgot the usual bethesda rule of having to make a savefile after about 2-3 hours, so that you can always skip the intro crap
are there any alternate start mods out yet?
>>338247660
Not yet.
>>338247660
You can just download a savegame at the end of the Vault from nexus, change what you want and set it on survival andget bored one hour in
Can I just pirate it and still use it with my base game in steam?
Don't wanna spend anymore money on that, got the base game from a keysite anyway.
Havent played since December. Is the GECK out yet?
>>338248090
Yes.
>>338247413Your son is an old man and runs the institute. You pick a faction to side with and kill everyone else, the end.
>>338248139
Well damn what are some of the game changing mods that have come out since? Last I remember its was just texture swaps of the vault suit over and over again.
>>338248410
Well, depends on what you consider game changing. There's some mods that try to unfuck settlement building, but nothing can unfuck that. There's new weapons and armors, CBBE if you need tits in the game, True Storms in case vanilla weather dissapoints the shit out of you, and well, that's mostly it.
>>338233074
>Telling the truth
How scummy!
I started playing like 5 hours ago. I wanted to inform the brotherhood the second i found out about a synth colony.
>its bugged lmao
okay. fuck you bethesda. The second i get there im thrown right into combat with little explanation, whatever. I'm then handed a slew of sidequests and in the same breath told I need a fucking guide to get around the island. I walk out the gate without a guide, and spend 4 hours tearing shit apart with little trouble. Before I know it, I've spent maybe 3 game days on the island and the locals at the harbor are telling me their kids wont believe the stories they tell about me. I just hit the point where side quests aren't falling into my lap anymore, and the only one of any interest was the revenge story that old woman was telling me, and only because she seemed to know things about the island others didnt, then at the end I find a holotape heavily implying this is just a suicide mission she sends people who show up on. I ask her about it
>lmao nah here have a "unique" cane or whatever
Honestly I was most upset when I heard them talking about a preacher from the children of atom. That is one of the few factions that they created in fallout 3, and that they could do ANYTHING with. I hadn't put much thought into it in the base game, but this fucking hit me. They could do a well written faction with established history, worshipping or hating the lone wanderer much like how the vault dweller lives on in NCR legend. Instead
>lmao they're reskinned raiders now
I'll finish it, but I doubt I'll actually 100% it. I'm assuming the other factions gonna be the children of atom, MAYBE a synth group. I half expect them to pull
>lmao we ARE the synth group
How many more slews of side quests do I have coming my way? My next quest is to go talk to that fucking guide I don't need to get around a fucking island that is really not that fucking dangerous. Can i expect a similar amount of side quests for the other 1/2 factions?
>>338248838
>its bugged lmao
And what exactly did you expect from a Bethesda game?
>>338248772
"telling the truth" in business is a terrible idea
>>338249005
Oy vey!
How do I not get my shit raped by mirlurks early game, on survival I get 1 shot and they seem to take forever to kill
>>338249208
shoot them in the face and use your superior human brain to fight them on your terms (high places they can't access)
>>338249208
Stop being shit in one of easiest FPS ever.
Use bugged terrain and AI to your advantage.
>>338249110
its true though, other companies will be reluctant to work with you if you are known as a guy who cant keep his mouth shut
even if you were working with literal retards, you must always either praise them or say nothing at all, or you will very quickly find yourself blacklisted
>>338249495
>who cant keep his mouth shut
the most benign diss ive seen since mcdonalds said they wouldn't participate in burger king's earth day thing because they had their own event planned
>>338228085
>Marksman's
>>338228085
>Marksman's rifle
Kek they don't even bother to proofread their shit before releasing it.
>>338225208
that´s some deep and insightful non-contribution to the thread.
If someone didn´t play them how would they know that they didn´t like them, and don´t delude yourself, there are plenty people who bought it in anticipation who were disgusted with it to go around.
>>338232223
>If you knew anything about the history of automatic rifles, you would know that model actually makes a lot of sense.
No it fukcing doesn't and you don't know shit about firearms.
Water/Air cooling shrouds were only ever used on large caliber machine guns because they could and were supposed to shoot continuously for long periods of time, so overheating was an issue. Also the added weight wasn't much of a problem.
No on fucking intermediate cartridge assault rfile where overheating will never be an issue in a realistic scenario and added weight is a problem.
Just because you've seen a few pictures on google and watched a shitty documentary on TV doesn't mean you know shit about shit.
>>338230427
>saves time that can be used for more important things
Don't know about you but if you ask me an internally consistent and immersive world in a fucking RPG should be pretty damn high on priority list.
>>338233074
>telling the truth is bad
Kill yourself.
>>338228829
so any game that's not being talked about every day is not an enjoyable game? why do people have to talk about it nonstop?
i can tell you're just being a piece of shit so there's no point to argue
>>338224625
It is point lookout/10. But there are even more performance issues than in base game.
Any intellectual people in here that can tell me which graphics setting reduces Fallout 4's CPU usage?
I live in a shit country where the temperature reaches 40+ C in Summer. My CPU is getting too hot when the game uses 80-95% of my CPU.
Are there skill checks? I know there is at least one. Can someone post screenshots, please?
>>338239681
>the map is completely empty
I'm not sure how that's possible.
Does Mod Organizer support this game yet?
Seems like they're taking writing complaints onboard.
The quest with the robots in the vault was good, reminded me of some of the side quests from NV.
Even addressed a little bit how retarded children of atom are, gave them a little more depth beyond retard fanfiction, although still not good that they crowbarred them into it again.
It's okay, can't how they are justifying the price tag.
>>338228517
I was always really annoyed at how the combat rifle and combat shotgun looked almost exactly identical with little similarities aside from the barrel.
Really wanted the Chinese AR. Thankfully someone compelted the unfinished model that was in the files and published it.
Now we just need the Chinese Pistol added as well.
>>338225654
>if you have the money
Hah, shill/consoleplebe/both spotted.
>>338239681
Compared to Fallout 4 it can feel empty, yes. But I much prefer New Vegas style of things being far apart from each-other to not being able to walk half a minute without hitting some interest point in a map like in F4.
>>338256307
too many 'replace/improve enemies' mods cancelled each other out, resulting in nothing spawning
>fallout 4
>>338224625
>less posters than NV thread
have a 232/37/98/3
>>338239413
"They write in something really good like 'is he a synth or isn't he? you'll never know!"
That was the only good part in that snooze fest of a game that caught my attention. How do you fuck that up, Bethesda?
I knew it wouldn't last long when this thread originally started off positive. Then /v/ became /v/ again.
>>338259517
> You'll never know!
Bummer.
NV Reference
>>338239887
>>338259920
Go to reddit if you want coddling, faggot. If you just stick to circlejerking with your buddies there you won't have to face the fact that the game is shit.
>>338260767
> I HATE THIS GAME I THINK IT IS SHIT
> ILL JUST STICK AROUND IN THE THREAD
>>338260883
Why wouldn't I stick? It's pretty amusing.
>>338260943
ayy lmao
>>338259920
There is /vg/ for discussing about Fallout 4 with minimal shitposting.
My Far Harbor DLC is bugged. The new monsters won't attack me, they just run towards me and stares at me. Is there a fix to this?
>>338234367
What a nice guy Josh Sawyer seems to be
So is the DLC any better than the base game?
I only listen to New Vegas fans because they have superior taste than Bethdrones.
>start fallout 4
>hear theme music in game
>exit
>>338261650
>I listen to Obsidiandrones
It's great
>>338261851
Yes, they have superior taste after all.
>>338228014
I hit 80-something, after that I'd done all the main quests and found almost all the locations
I play on normal because I think the gameplay is abhorrent regardless and I just want to see all the cool locations and quests Bethesda forgot to pack into their newest release
I can totally buy someone spending 150 hours.
>>338262527
No this don't
You're retarded
>>338263063
>No this don't
>You're retarded
fuckn got him
>>338263063
>i'm retarded
>''No this don't''
>>338225208
Not the same guy, I have far harbor installed and have not bothered touching it yet. Probably won't bother playing it at all, automatron was boring and wasteland workshop killed it for me.
