Microsoft Announced today "Forge - Halo 5 Guardians Edition" for Windows 10 computers.
Basically it's forge that can be built with a mouse and keyboard on PC for use in Halo 5 on Xbox One. 4K resolution is also confirmed.
Thoughts?
You can play custom games, so basially Halo 5 on PC. No proper matchmaking or official maps though.
>windows 10
>>338214747
>Windows 10
Still haven't learned.
>>338214747
>windows 10
>can't even play with other people
>expecting pc users to build content for console players
Forge mode was good fun on Halo 3 back in the 360 days. But no way in hell im upgrading to windows 10 for just that, nice try Microjew.
>>338214747
>Literally just expecting PC users to build free content for console players
lmao
My computer automatically updated itself to windows 10 without my permission, and now it seems they are really pushing the W10 specific freebies and advantages.
Either they really want to scam secret data off everyone, or they're planning on releasing high frequency, head exploding sound waves at some point.
>>338214828
>You can play custom games, so basially Halo 5 on PC
False
From the article:
>Microsoft has clarified that Forge—Halo 5: Guardians Edition will not support matchmaking or any other Halo 5 multiplayer features, and so custom maps and games created with it will only be playable online with people in your Friends list for testing purposes
All you can do socially is test the maps with people on your Xbox friends list on PC. You can't play any of the maps that launched with the game, there's no matchmaking, no theater, no campaign, etc.
Halo 5 is still an X1 exclusive. This is just the ability to build and test maps for the console game.
>>338215248
>Literally just expecting PC users to build free content for console players
It's going to happen. can't wait to make use of this
Omg I am a blatant Microsoft faggot an this is bullshit. PC users making maps for consolefags. This is a fucking offense.
Why not just release Halo 5 for pc? The hype is already gone, a pc port can revive the franchise for a bit
>Halo 5 announced for PC
It's only forge
>MCC announced for PC
Requires controller
What's next?
Sunset Overdrive to require XBL Gold?
>>338214747
We all know every map made is going to be a variation of a dick.
Hell, I'll probably make a few hundred maps shaped like dicks.
>>338215248
I have been so desperate for a Halo PC port since 2 that I will gladly fuck around in whatever tripe they'll shit out
>>338215631
Nice console war baiting.
You're part of the problem.
>>338215790
>I have been so desperate for a Halo PC port since 2 that I will gladly fuck around in whatever tripe they'll shit out
We're getting MCC, but online play is already confirmed to require a controller pad.
>>338214747
>Windows 10
>>338215914
>source: my asshole
>>338215248
>implying modders won't use this as a way to hack halo 5 maps into halo online eldewrito
>>338215352
>custom maps and games created with it will only be playable online with people in your Friends list for testing purposes
That's still playing a video game with other people.
>>338216096
Literally 5 seconds on Google search
>>338214747
How are they gonna stop people from ripping the engine apart and making it the full multiplayer game like they did with Halo Online?
>>338215990
>minecraft clone on a store platform operated by a company that owns fucking minecraft
>>338215914
>but online play is already confirmed to require a controller pad.
Dropped
>>338216223
>How are they gonna stop people from ripping the engine apart and making it the full multiplayer game like they did with Halo Online?
Halo Online was a mess, even with the el dorito hack.
Rampant modding and hacking everywhere, and most people re-enabled sprint for an advantage.
>>338216197
>lying
>to other people
>on an anonymous image board
>>338216197
Past month, 1 news article on google, it's because some Russian nobody "leaked" it.
k
>>338216223
DRM
>>338216368
hows this for lies?
Like i said, 5 seconds in google search
>>338216491
Literally dozens of articles this week alone.
Get out from under that rock.
>>338216539
You mean how the Win10 storefront is getting homogenized so that Bone games show up on it?
>may come to windows
>still no proof of your controller-only multiplayer claim
>>338216368
Halo MCC is already on the Windows 10 store if you're a windows insider member.
It's happening.
>>338216615
>Literally dozens of articles this week alone.
Literally 2, and both cite the same Russian nobodies who also claim Overwatch is coming (in your fucking dreams is it ever leaving Battle.net)
>>338216790
It's a test for the new merged storefront you fucking moron, you can buy MCC for xbone on your PC from one unified store, you still need an xbone to play it.
>>338216743
>may come to Windows
It's already on the fucking store. There's screenshots for Christ's sake.
>No proof of controller only play
It's all one ecosystem. Spencer has already stated that shooters that share online will require a controller.
>>338216931
Dude. Halo MCC is coming to PC. There's proof in front of your eyes in this thread alone.
>>338215914
I know I should be mad at this, but honestly, if this were to happen I would still probably get it. As long as I can use kb/m for singleplayer, I'd be ok with it.
>>338217135
>There's proof in front of your eyes in this thread alone.
No, there isn't. There's proof retards don't know what the unified store it.
>>338217003
>It's already on the fucking store.
HOLY SHIT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING
> Spencer has already stated that shooters that share online will require a controller.
Prove it.
>>338217179
Microsoft is trying to compete with steam. I know, it's a futile attemot, but you can't honestly tell me that they're going to put Halo 5 on the W10 store and then say when you buy it "good, now get an xbone to play it."
>>338217135
Look at the Windows 10 Store listing for MCC then learn to speak vodka.
It says right underneath "This app is not compatible with your device"
It doesn't run on PC, the unified store lets you buy xbone games on your Microsoft account from your Xbone, PC or Windows Phone but the game still only plays on your xbone.
>>338217356
>but you can't honestly tell me that they're going to put Halo 5 on the W10 store and then say when you buy it "good, now get an xbone to play it."
That's precisely what it is and what they're been saying it is. You can also buy Windows 10 PC games on your Windows Phone app store as well, does that mean I can play Quantum Break on my cell phone? It's a UNIFIED STORE for buying all things Microsoft related all in 1 place, on 1 account.
>>338214747
Serious question here: Would you actually play Halo 5 if it was on PC? I sure as fuck wouldn't. They seriously need to hurry up and port Halo 3 over, preferably with modding support.
>>338217392
>Using windows phone to prove something on PC
>Using windows phone in general
>>338214747
>windows 10
>>338217542
>Would you actually play Halo 5 if it was on PC?
Not if it's on the Windows 10 store.
>>338217542
No because mouse control breaks Halo.
But I would gladly buy Crackdown 3 on W10
take a close look at this image DIRECTLY FROM MICROSOFT WEBSITE
https://news.xbox.com/2016/05/19/forging-ahead-the-halo-forge-experience-comes-to-windows-10-pc/
i would not expect much
>>338217542
Not 5, but I would buy a Halo game designed from the ground up for PC.
>>338217841
How does mouse control break Halo? It seems perfectly fine with Halo 1 PC and Halo Online, never felt like it made the game too easy or too hard.
>>338214747
>halo 5
I can't wait for mustards to start ironically liking halo just because its on pc when the halo fanbase despises 343 and refuses to play the shit fests known as halo 4 and halo 5.
>>338217897
For Halo 1, the animations can't keep up with how quickly a mouse can spin around. Also, the Sniper becomes broken; while aim assist is a thing on consoles and the Sniper lacks it, this balancing factor isn't there on PC and every weapon is as difficult to hit with as anything else.
>>338214747
>DRM riddled
>unfunctioning
>can't change Vsync, resolution and tons of other settings
>won't let you download if it doesn't meet arbitrary requirements
>>338218148
I never noticed these issues, but I'm sure if they put more effort than none at all, they could fix it no problem.
>>338215352
Well seeing as you can according to this official screenshot (bottom right) play Custom Games to "test" maps it is pretty much Custom Games and Forge on PC.
The multiplayer just be P2P Friends List only shit, which players can just add a load of random Halo PC players or maybe wait and see if the game can be modded to have a server browser.
>>338218302
Halo 5 doesn't actually have any P2P networking, it's all on dedis.
>>338218482
I doubt this will be on dedicated servers, and I have heard that they are trash anyway.
>>338218781
Forge on console is already on dedis.
>>338215101
T H I S
>>338218781
Halo 5's dedicated servers were perfect in the first few weeks, then they started to break for no apparent reason.
>>338218886
They're on a pretty "works fine for me" basis.
>>338214747
what is the point of this?
most people with a pc capable of running a game like halo 5 probably don't even own an xbone, and people with xbones are too stupid to use a computer properly.
>>338217323
Not him but he did mention filtering using controller only games and allowing mouse on the bone
>>338214747
>Instead of patching in local multiplayer and co-op we get fucking forge on Win10
No one is going to give two shits about this. Half the reason to even fucking make custom maps in the first place is gone.
>>338219285
>Half the reason to even fucking make custom maps in the first place is gone.
What reason?
>>338219356
to play them you fucking mongoloid
>>338219285
343 literally has no idea what they're doing, this should be obvious by now.
>>338219409
Except for when you can.
>>338219356
No local MP, so you can only play them yourself online. Can't have friends over to make maps and play anymore, I did that a ton with Reach and it was a lot of fun. Probably wouldn't have picked the game up again if it weren't for local MP and custom maps.
>>338219410
Local MP would make me go and buy a shitbox, Halo 5 and MCC the day they announce it. The main reason I skipped Halo 5 and Xbone entirely, half the functionality for the MP is gone and the MP will be 100% unplayable when the servers go down. You'll have the SP campaign and nothing else.
>>338215352
>will only be playable online with people in your Friends list for testing purposes
...so in other words custom games, exactly what he said
>>338215124
I wouldn't get windows 10 for it either but Halo 3's forge pales in comparison to 5's. Even reach's was miles ahead of 3's.
In reach's they added phsycis settings, so you don't need to use exploits to have objects float, as well as a "phase" mode to stick objects inside of each other and the terrain, as well as fine coordinate editing, linking indivual objects/vehicles/items to objectives, as well as adding a ton of pieces to actuaklly build maps from scratch instead of just editing them.
4's addeed a magnet system to line up key parts of objects against each other and simple scripting options.
5's addes super cpmplex scripting tools, texture/color/reflectiiions editing, sound emitters and particle/visual effects you can place, time of day settings, volumes (such as fog), etc. It's almost on par with map editors in PC games now.
Pic related was done in Halo 5's forge, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNEcikDXlK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yJfE4wP-s
are also good examples of what you can do
>>338217542
Considering Halo 5 has my favorite MP in the series since 2, yes, though i'd be concerned how weapons like the sniper are balanced with mouse aiming.
>>338215352
Whats the fucking point if you can't playtest the maps
>>338214747
So... a hammer editor for Halo? I guess that's cool.
>>338219692
>favorite MP in the series since 2
Shill detected, fuck right off. Nothing but
>Best since Halo 2!
threads all late last year. Couldn't be any more obvious.
>>338215101
>Thinking anyone wants to associate themselves with PKEKS
>>338219802
It literally says right there that you can test them.
>>338219838
Or maybe people actually think it's the best since 2.
>>338219692
5's addes super cpmplex scripting tools, texture/color/reflectiiions editing, sound emitters and particle/visual effects you can place, time of day settings, volumes (such as fog), etc. It's almost on par with map editors in PC games now.
Pic related was done in Halo 5's forge, for example.
>That grammar
Also
"It's almost on par with map editors in PC games now."
And
"texture/color/reflectiiions editing"
[Citation Needed]
>>338219838
it's true though
>>338215337
This happened to me months ago.
>>338219802
Did you even read the post you are replying to?
> and so custom maps and games created with it will only be playable online with people in your Friends list for testing purposes
P KEKS
>>338220087
Reflections aren't a thing, but you can change the gloss on individual objects, their colors, and texture changes were added last patch.
>PCuckolds will now make maps for the console masterrace without even being allowed to play the game
I'm dying of laughter.
>>338220087
>"texture/color/reflectiiions editing"
>[Citation Needed]
Go to the halo twitch page and watch the last VOD, skip to 1:39:20
>>338220253
That's what I meant by reflection editing, maybe I should have been more clear. I didn't mean cubemaps, I meant specularity.
I don't see why you would really need cubemaps anyways, the only material related option left they haven't added that I would want is specifying the highlight color so objects could be iridescent.
>>338214747
Why is microsoft so opposed to just releasing games on windows? They do all these back flips to incorporate pc functionality into their console games when they could just cut all the shit and release on pc. Why do they try so hard to keep a flailing console on life support when pc gaming is stronger then its ever been?
Not that I care for any halo or any microsoft games, it just seems kinda sad if you ask me.
honestly windows 10 store is so shitty and the way they manage games is awful. can't even capture them with any programs because they don't use exes. not to mention the shit optimization on some of them like KI and GoW.
>>338219692
what good is all of that when the franchise itself was murdered and most of the fans dispersed after the past 2 shitty games?
>>338215914
SOURCE
>>338220595
Because then literally nobody would buy an Xbox.
>>338220072
>>338220097
Can't blame people for assuming its marketers because they used almost that exact phrase every fucking time.
It's the worst MP in the series because half the functionality is gone, it's online-only and will be completely unplayable in a few years when servers go down.And I liked Halo 4 just fine, I can deal with changes to the gameplay but fuck cutting staple features to sell more subscriptions.
>>338217841
Damnit...i would love to play some crackdown as well
>>338217542
EVERY THREAD
WITHOUT FAIL
BABBYS MAD THAT PEOPLE LIKE HALO 5
>>338221070
I'm not mad people like Halo 5, I'm mad Halo's been raped.
>>338221140
>I'm mad Halo's been raped.
>likes halo 3
>>338218302
If that is true it would make this better than the actual game.
>>338221140
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/VRtwQFx0ZammMmFX803ICw/
Keep fighting the good fight anon!!! Youre not changing a fucking thing
>>338214747
>forge and customs, the only good parts of halo 5, are being ported to pc
>people will think this is bad
>>338221398
No shit, I've accepted that. All I have left is to bitterly complain until I die.
>>338220905
I agree it's shit that there's no local play and it's basically online only MP wise, but the actual mechanics and weapon balance and map design and all that is fucking fantastic.
I don't blame you for not liking it due to the stuff it's missing, that's understandable, but it should be equally understandble that it does have a lot of good stuff going for it and that a lot of people like it due to that
>>338214747
>w10
lol
>>338221070
>Worst-selling entry in the series
>MP locked behind Gold paywall, one player & online-only
>Campaign co-op locked behind Gold paywall
>No local MP or splitscreen whatsoever
>Campaign is a short, rushed mess with half-baked mechanics
>MP lacked many gametypes and playlists, far fewer than any other game at launch
>No forge at launch
>No BTB at launch
>BTB maps are forge bullshit and not real maps
>CoD-style progression
>REQ packs & warzone are the focus, not regular MP
>Reticle is centered instead of below center
Nope, certainly no reason for a long-time Halo fan to dislike Halo 5.
>windows 10
It's like microsoft wants everyone to switch to tablet with their shitty OS... oh wait... that's their plan all along.
>>338221576
>>Reticle is centered instead of below center
>this is a bad thing
>>338219692
No. Not custom games.
It's testing through the forge creator. It's a different thing.
>>338221475
At least upgrade your image
>>338221576
>CoD style progression
Factually incorrect.
>>338215124
What's wrong with windows 10?
>>338221576
>Reticle is centered instead of below center
Everything else you said is a legitimate problem, but not that one. Every single other game has a centered reticle, it's stupid that Bungie lowered it.
>>338221682
All of them but noble six's look fine to me.
>>338221576
>Reticle is centered instead of below center
I never understood why it was lowered and how it made any sort of sense.
>>338221682
I'm going to use that one too now, but the other one is condensed hell, this one is too spread out.
Can these fucks just make xbox titles available on windows already? They've been teasing for what, a decade now?
>>338220884
>Because then literally nobody would buy an Xbox.
False.
/v/ is not the majority.
For the most part, the console and PC player bases do not overlap.
People don't buy consoles for exclusives
>>338221796
Bungie wanted to nerf height advantage because they're the western Sakurai and can't allow a game to be fun on purpose.
>>338221214
This
>>338221504
Well, I just don't care how good the MP is when the modes I'd want to actually play just aren't there. And I disagree that it's the best
since Halo 2 anyway, it plays more similarly to other modern shooters than it does the older games. Fine if you like it, but it's not really Halo anymore.
I don't think the game should be getting praise for dropping local MP and co-op. Anything good it does is hampered by that lack of functionality because it would carry over to local play as well. And again it'll be 100% unplayable in a few years when servers go down while every other game will be playable.
Easily the most disappointing news I read in 2015, I bought both previous consoles just for Halo. I just can't call Halo 5 anything but easily the weakest entry in the series due to the almost certainly intentional complete, utter lack of local play.
>>338221789
Fuck you, Decimator is one of the better sets
>>338221639
Why is it good? You see more of what's going on around you instead of 20% more of the dirt you're walking on. Not a big deal it's just something that really stood out to me.
>>338221731
>Everything else you said is a legitimate problem, but not that one
I know, it just bugged me, it's not consistent.
>>338222031
SCOTUS ruled that multiplayer games need to have some level of playability after servers go down
THANKS FOR TESTING THOSE MAPS FOR US PCKEKS
>>338214747
>Windows 10
No thanks Microsoft. Good try though.
>>338222079
Everything in that concept art looks great except the visor. Too bad the in game version looks like shit because 343 doesn't understand the value of a black undersuit.
>>338221789
That is because the Noble Six armor isn't actually Mark V [b]. It's a different set 343 came up with and people said it was supposed to be Mark V [b] when it really wasnt.
Just make a mutator that turns UT4 into playing like Halo 1 or 2.
>>338222079
The body armor is fine, but the helmet looks bad.
>>338222159
I'm not holding my breath, and that "some level of playability" would likely be the bare-minimum and not full local MP anyway,
>"thanks for beta testing consolefags!"
>Microsoft makes PC gamers create forge maps for Xbox fans
Lol
This is just testing the waters for how Halo 5;s performs on a wide variety PCs
Eventually they'll bring the full game over when Halo 6 is announced in a year, and Halo 6 will be on PC as well with crossplay like Halo Wars 2
>Halo 5 only works on PC for testing maps
>Community hacks H5 to unlock all modes on PC
>>338222031
>it plays more similarly to other modern shooters than it does the older games.
Eh, I disagree. It certainly has a lot of the moment systems that titanfall/AW have, but the gunplay, gameplay flow, map design, and all that feel totally halo, specifically like halo 2 to me. It has the same sort of tight 4v4 gameplay and competitiveness that 2 had that 3/reach and such felt like a step back on without going too far down the MLGfaggotry road like 2 itself did.
In fact the best tl;dr of Halo 5's gameplay IMO is "Halo 2 with titanfall movement and actually good weapon balance".
>>338222321
This seems like the most possible outcome. No Halo 3 PC, just 5 because Microsoft doesn't get it.
>>338222150
Why is it bad? Halo is a somewhat vertical game, so having equal screen space all around your reticle is helpful. It also allows you to move your reticle upwards and snap to targets above you easily.
Do you really need to see that 20% more sky?
>>338222159
I can't find anything about that on google.
>>338222442
Halo 5's gameplay would be just fine if sprint wasn't in the game and base movement speed was higher to compensate. Sprint is seriously the worst thing to happen to Halo, it fucks the map flow up so much and destroys close quarter combat.
>>338222321
Yep it's a sample like Apex is
>>338222453
>No Halo 3 PC
El Dewrito is close enough once you disable all the retarded new guns.
>>338222296
>>338222159
Actually, it was the copyright office, and they merely said that it's legal for people to run private servers for multiplayer only games that are online only once the dev shuts the online off. Halo 5 wouldn't apply because it still has a SP competent that's offline.
The EFF and other consumer advocates for digital/copyright stuff are going to try to get them to make the same ruling for the online MP portions of games that alo have SP during the next exception review period, since the office does that every 4 years or so
>>338222589
Sprint is fine in 5 because of how quickly you can shoot out of it and the small difference between walking and sprinting.
The charge attack is the real cancer, though.
>>338222589
>Sprint is seriously the worst thing to happen to Halo
That would be Spartan Ops, followed by Orbital
>>338222612
Turn 10 has already confirmed the full forza 6 will never come to PC
>>338222589
Base movement speed is already high enough, sprint makes you move like 1/3 faster
>>338221405
>literally can't play ti unless you have xbox one
wow so great
>>338222728
This, at high levels of play (onyx and champion rank) sprint is rarely used
>>338222727
They're developing the next Forza for win 10 though
Same with Halo
They'll make copies for both pc and xbox with crossplay from now on
>>338222589
They did that after the beta, sorta: They made sprint go slower, and the base movement speed higher.
personally I think 5 fixes the issues sprint had in 4. You can't use it to run away anymore because then your shields don't recharge and you'll just get picked off as you try to run since even autos are actually somewhat accurate at medium distances now.
>>338222727
Orbital isn't as bad as isolation, snowbound, or backwash. Ordinance in 4 is also complete shit. Even the loadouts in 4 could OCCASIONALLY be fun for shits and giggles, but i've never seen a mode where ordinance was fun.
>>338222675
So it's only if people manage to make a server emulator. It doesn't do anything for dead only online games that don't already have private servers. RIP Darkspore.
GIVE ME MY W10-COMPATIBLE FUCKING MASTER CHIEF COLLECTION ALREADY I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE HALOS I ACTUALLY LIKE
>>338222682
Sprint is not fine because Maps have to be doubled in size to accommodate for it. This is completely unnecessary and only harms the gameplay because sprinting doesn't actually get you from point A to point B any faster, it's an illusion that harms the close quarter combat that sets Halo apart from other shooters.
>>338217542
Halo 3 would be ass on PC, they'd need to change a lot of shit
>2016
>Not playing Halo 3 PC
http://scooterpsu.github.io/
>>338223008
Not even that will get me to install Windows 10.
>>338223068
All they would need to do is center the aiming and adjust aiming speed animations. I can't think of anything else that would cause a problem.
>>338222835
It's used, but it's used intelligently. You don't have people sprinting directly into combat.
>>338223057
>Maps have to be doubled in size to accommodate for it
They're really not that big in 5. You can get around them comfortably just by walking.
>w10
nothing to see here, keep walking people
>>338214747
Wouldn't it just be easier to add Mouse & Keyboard support to the Xbone version? Why would I want to make maps on a PC for a console game that cannot incorporate new environmental & enemy assets, event scripting, music, etc.
>>338223252
Weapon balance, since guns like the snipers have a higher skill ceiling due to not having as much aim assist
On PC all weapons would have no aim assist and mice are easier to aim with then analog sticks so all guns are going to be equally easy to aim with
>>338223296
And yet, the maps are still unnecessarily large, due to sprint. Truth is twice the size of Midship just because of sprint, which makes the entire point of sprint redundant. If they kept the original map sizes and had sprint, then sprint would be crazy OP. Sprint is a serious issue and Halo will never be able to go back to the glory days until sprint is gone.
>>338223197
Updating. Last played at 5.0.2
>>338223252
They'd need to make the movement not ass and rebalance the sandbox
>>338223442
Well I suppose they could either make precision weapons less accurate and auto weapons more accurate, or lower certain weapons firing rate. But then that could fuck up the entire feeling of the game.
>>338223427
Actually halo 5's forge does allow for in mode scripting; and they've been constantly adding new assets for use in forge every month/
It's not PC mod tool tier of course but for a console game it's pretty damn robust, see >>338219692
also, they are allegedly adding stuff that will work specifically for the PC version of forge
>>338223448
Quick question. Have you actually played Halo 5?
>>338223448
>Truth is twice the size of Midship
No it isn't. Its like 20 percent bigger than the Halo 2 version.
Hyperbole wont win arguments.
>>338223573
Yes.
Just release it for Windows 10.
It's the only way to save Halo and Windows 10
>>338223709
Are you sure? Because the maps really aren't that big.
>>338223571
Or I could just use UE4's level editor. Hell I'd even rather use Hammer.
>>338223747
Still won't help.
Make it for Win7/8 too and I'd buy day-one. Not touching anything on Win10 yet.
> Thoughts?
Fuck that shit. The only thing Im interested in is single-player campaign. Starting with mcc. There are plenty of (imo much better) multi player shooters on pc already
>>338214747
Microsoft can go fuck themselves with the Windows Store and the Windows UXP launch process.
I'm not touching their bullshit.
I would 100% buy MCC and Halo 5 if they were bundled for pc
>>338223335
>>338223335
this
>windows 10
win-do i walk away? 10 seconds ago
>>338223867
Sure, and those are undoubtedly better map editors (well, Hammer is probably not that much ahead but that's for SP, not MP), but those games aren't halo either.
>>338224003
Halo 5's SP isn't anything to write home about. The missions are good but they are short and there's not many of them, and the story is eh.
Halo 5's MP, however, is fantastic.
>>338223747
I won't care about MCC unless it gets a real map creator and a modern Custom Edition.
>>338223640
>>338223772
I'm doing a poor job explaining myself, but this video does a much better job of getting across what I mean, please skip to 20:44 to hear what this guy has to say about sprint, I think he makes good sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-O9PnBPhU
>>338224118
>Halo 5's MP, however, is fantastic.
Sure, unless you want to play with someone in the same room or want an actual Halo game.
>>338224475
I value a stable framerate over playing splitscreen once every month or so when I have people over. I have enough splitscreen shooters on the Bone alone.
>>338224475
It plays like an actual halo game. It plays closer to 2 and CE then fucking 3 did in most respects.
Yes, no local sucks shit.
>Halo 5
wew. 343 has butchered Halo 4, MCC, and Halo 5 so why even give a shit about Forge on PC?
>>338225702
>I HAVE NOT PLAYED HALO 5 AND I HAVE ESPECIALLY NOT TOUCHED ITS FORGE MODE: THE POST
>>338225813
Your caps lock key is stuck, friend.
>>338214747
>Thoughts?
Halo isn't relevant since halo 2. Who gives a fuck.
>windows 10
yea no
>>338224118
>Halo 5's MP, however, is fantastic.
AR START
ADS
SPRINT
Halo died after Halo 3. Bungie cucked Reach and 343 fucked up H4, MCC, and Halo 5. If you think Halo 5 is fantastic in any shape or form you are the biggest fuck on the internet
>>338224921
>sprint
>>338225702
Halo 5 has great multiplayer though.
>>338224675
>I value a stable framerate over playing splitscreen once every month or so when I have people over
And this is what I just don't fucking get, why do you assume they're mutually exclusive and that it's impossible for you to have both? Because 343 said so?
Why can't we have 60-fps fullscreen gameplay and 30fps splitscreen? Nintendo figured that shit out with Mario Kart on the fucking Wii U. It was simply an excuse so they didn't have to say "MS told us to cut it because they want to sell more copies of the game, their console and Gold subscriptions" which is obviously PR suicide. If they truly didn't have time to implement it then it's still 100% on 343/MS because MS rushed the game out long before it was done and chose to deliver a sub-par game missing features every other game in the series has.
>>338224921
>It plays closer to 2 and CE then fucking 3 did in most respects.
Look, I can deal with 343 changing up the gameplay, Halo 4 was acceptable and I played a lot of it, but that is flat-out fucking false. Halo 5 does not play more similarly to the first two games than Halo 3, not even close.
>>338226106
>No local
>Have to pay $60/year to play it
Yeah, no.
>>338226127
>Because 343 said so?
Because Halo 5's engine is shit.
>>338225957
>>338226019
The AR is actually good in 5 and you also start with a very good magnum. It's balanced fine.
There's no ADS. There's just zoom on all weapons, and it fucking acts like zoom, not ADS.
Sprint works fine.
>>338226324
>Sprint works fine.
No it doesn't.
>>338226127
>Look, I can deal with 343 changing up the gameplay, Halo 4 was acceptable and I played a lot of it, but that is flat-out fucking false. Halo 5 does not play more similarly to the first two games than Halo 3, not even close.
I disagree, The map design has more in common wiith ce and 2 then 3, as does the gameplay flow and gunplay. The only way 5 really differs from them is the movement systems.
>>338226106
It really doesn't the BR is not viable, weapons are shit, and map designs are terrible. All 343 had to do was
>What did Halo 2 do and lets do that!
>Yeah, and add forge and Theater from Halo 3
but they didn't and they shat on every true Halo fan
>>338223197
>only one server under 100 ping
>it has a password
>>338226389
What's wrong with it then?
>>338226452
>The BR is not viable
You are full of shit. The BR is perfectly viable and is still the best all around gun, it's just that other weapons are actually worth using too.
BRfags are the biggest cancer the series has ever seen.
>Weapons are shit
What does this even mean?
>>338226538
Refer to
>>338224461
>>338226324
>There's no ADS. There's just zoom on all weapons, and it fucking acts like zoom, not ADS.
So why even change it then? Automatic weapons didn't have a zoom because they're close-range weapons. ADS in 5 doesn't affect player movement or aim while zoomed, so why is it even there?
Oh, right, because Halo 5 was attempting to appeal to a younger audience and not the core Halo audience and it's in part why it fucking flopped and sold worse than every other game in the series, including ODST.
>>338215101
It's clearly for people who have an Xbone and a PC.
>>338226439
>The only way 5 really differs from them is, you know, the actual gameplay
You don't say.
You can take a Halo 2 map and shove in into any other shooter but that doesn't magically make that shooter play like Halo 2.
>>338226767
>or aim while zoomed
actually it does slightly
it also gives some more bullet magnetism range, zoom in with an assault rifle at someone out of range and the reticule will turn red
>>338226767
>So why even change it then?
It makes automatics less shit, which has always been an issue with the halo games. Especially since the AR in 5 is more of a all around gun and can be used at mid range if bursted.
>>338214747
I just want to play halo on the pc, imagine it how good it would run with dyanamic resolution Anons.
>>338226881
And i'm saying in every respect other then the movement, Halo 5's gameplay is more like 2's then 3 is.
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this
>>338226962
No, it doesn't impact movement speed at all.
>windows 10
yes goy, hit that upgrade button
>>338227161
>being too poorfag to buy a separate H/SDD
Nice try Jude, but your not looking at my main drives
>>338216194
Shhhh, let them h8 m8. No need for logic in this place
>>338226658
>The BR is perfectly viable and is still the best all around gun
Why is it not used as primary weapon for competitive?
>BRfags are the biggest cancer the series has ever seen.
spotted the casual. I know you're fucking trash at Halo just because of this singular comment. Halo 2 and Halo 3 had the best and most established multiplayer modes of the series. If you were any good you played Team Hardcore and MLG which made the Battle Rifle the official loadout.
>>338226767
>Oh, right, because Halo 5 was attempting to appeal to a younger audience and not the core Halo audience and it's in part why it fucking flopped and sold worse than every other game in the series, including ODST.
/THREAD
>>338215914
even if that's the case, people will find a way to emulate a controller with kb/m
>>338227058
And I'm saying I disagree. Neither Halo 2 or 3 had:
>Sprint
>ADS
>Clambering QTE/animations
>REQ/microtransaction/Warzone bullshit
The biggest changes to Halo 3 after Halo 2 were the pick-up items like power drain, the core gameplay changed very little.
>>338226772
this. how are so many retards not realizing this?
halo 5 is already the best game on the bone so only good can come from this
>>338215914
This is good. Halo isn't meant to be played with KB+M and would just be a boring point-and-click to win.
>>338227650
>halo 5 is already the best game on the bone
That's MCC, since it's better, is four games and has local MP and co-op.
>>338227365
>being this assblasted your shitty gun isn't the only decent thing in the game
The BR was never a weapon that takes skill to use. None of the weapons in Halo are except the sniper and pro pipe
>>338227792
This is bait
>>338216931
Maybe for now it'll be between friends. But I feel like soon they'll allow you to play on a custom server. The private match thing could just be a testing phase.
>>338226127
>Nintendo figured that shit out with Mario Kart on the fucking Wii U.
>because W did X, that means Y automatically works with Z
You can't play online when you're not running at 30fps, and it's also Mario Kart.
>>338227058
>Halo 5's gameplay is more like 2's
HOLY SHIT PEOPLE ACTUALLY FUCKING BELIEVE THIS? DID YOU EVEN PLAY HALO 2 HOLY FUCK.
>being this assblasted your shitty gun isn't the only decent thing in the game
>The BR was never a weapon that takes skill to use.
Said the scrub who got my dick down his throat in H2 and H3. I was fucking UNTOUCHABLE and now Halo caters to fucking scrubs like you. It's down right pitiful
>>338214747
Microsoft will never learn.
>>338228228
>point gun at head and shoot
wow so skillful
amazing
>>338228228
Halo 1 didn't have a BR, and it was a more competitive game than Halo 1 in literally every way.
>>338214747
Honestly fuck 343 for killing Forge in Halo. Halo hasn't been at the same at fucking all since they killed it in Halo 4.
>>338228652
>killing Forge
Forge is the one thing you can say is objectively better than every other iteration.
>>338214747
>cucked so hard they only get to make maps but not play the game
Wew lads.
>>338228406
No it wasn't since the game was on a smaller scale since there was only LAN. Halo 2 was televised on USA TV with a larger player base than Halo 1. The reason Halo CE used a pistol for competitive reason was because there were no other long range alternatives besides the Sniper rifle. The pistol is great but it never should've replaced the BR in competitive and and loadouts have no business in an Arena game. DOOM made the same mistake and it's multiplayer is uninspired and generic shit. You fucking kids are so used to loadout shit from CoD that you're blinded by it
>>338228926
Population is irrelevant when the large majority of Halo 2 players didn't play at a competitive level. The mechanics, spawn system, weapons, and basically everything about Halo 1 made for a more competitive game than 2.
> The reason Halo CE used a pistol for competitive reason was because there were no other long range alternatives besides the Sniper rifle.
And the BR is different how?
>The pistol is great but it never should've replaced the BR in competitive
Why? Because of your autistic fixation to burst fire weapons?
5 doesn't have loadouts in competitive.
>>338228926
the fuck are you even talking about
halo 5 doesn't have loadouts
>>338222849
Halo 6 is already confirmed a console exclusive.
You're thinking of Halo Wars 2
>>338229652
"No"
>>338229212
>>338229202
he's criticising halo 5 without knowing anything about it
i know guys, im shocked too
>>338229212
Warzone dumbass
>>338229202
>Halo 2 players didn't play at a competitive level.
That's false.
>Halo 1 made for a more competitive game
such as what? Halo 2 had more game modes, better diversity when it came to maps. I played both competitively since I'm old as fuck and I can tell you that Halo 2's multiplayer felt finished (aside from modders in matchmaking) while Halo CE's multiplayer was tacked on. Central focus of Halo 2 was the competitive custom games through clans (they used to have Clan matches as well).
>>338229652
This.
Just last week Wolfkill confirmed that they have no intention of developing the next main series Halo for PC.
>people nonstop complain about Doom multiplayer being too much like Halo
>constantly begging for Halo to come to PC
>>338229762
Got Halo 4 confused with Halo 5 since they are both generic shooters
>Test and Play with Friends – Enlist the help of Friends to help build, test, and play your Forge creations on Windows 10.
>Friends to help build, test, and play your Forge creations on Windows 10.
>Friends
>Play
HALO 5 CUSTOM GAMES CONFIRMED FOR PC
>>338229813
I wasn't aware there were competitive warzone tournaments
>>338230132
Nope.
Just testing maps in the forge mode, and it has to be with friends from xbox.
>>338230046
Nice save >.>
>Bethesda let's PC players make mods for console gamers
>343 let's PC players make maps for console gamers
Companies are outsourcing their work to PC gamers for free
>>338229858
>such as what?
Weapons didn't have to be dropped before the respawn timer started
Every map played competitively had at least 2 powerups on it
Grenade tricks
110 fov on splitscreen
Being able to control exactly where your teammate spawns
The guns are difficult to use
The guns aren't hitscan
Every weapon except for the Needler has a distinct purpose
Health packs
The reticle is in the center of the screen
>they ported over all the assets and code over so that the game can be played on PC
>they jews won't just let us have the whole thing
Exclusivity is cancer
>>338231127
You get what you pay for.
>>338230652
Except with beth, they are offering modders compensation so it's not free for console users vs pirating their mods on pc
>>338230819
>Weapons didn't have to be dropped before the respawn timer started
Learning weapon respwan times enables a sense of urgency and strategy also player placement on map to recover power weapons.
>Every map played competitively had at least 2 powerups on it
all competitive H2 maps had powerups and power weapons so invalid
>Grenade tricks
Halo 2 had, BXR, Double Shot, rocket jump, nade jump, BXB, nade reload etc..
>110 fov on splitscreen
alright
>Being able to control exactly where your teammate spawns
alright
>The guns are difficult to use
subjective
>The guns aren't hitscan
alright
>Every weapon except for the Needler has a distinct purpose
matters only to casuals
>Health packs
I get that strategy can be developed around Health packs but it slowed the game down too much while being irrelevant in the grand sceme of things.
>The reticle is in the center of the screen
cosmetic issue
Most of your gripes effected casuals lad. I'll give you a few of those but to say H1 was more competitive than Halo 2 is down right retarded and if you were part of the competitive scene in Halo 2 you'd realize this
>>338218258
The weapons are individually and uniquely balanced around varying degrees of aim assist and magnetism.
It's really pathetic that poor bastards' formative experience with the series is a trashy Gearbox port.
>>338214747
>/v/ and /g/ hate w10 because "botnet meme"
>They dont know about all those exclusives (Tomb Raider, Killer instint, Halo Forge)
>
>>338215352
>Halo 5: Guardians Edition will not support matchmaking or any other Halo 5 multiplayer features
>only be playable online with people in your Friends list for testing purposes
Is playing with friends not a multiplayer feature? I'm confused.
>>338232103
TR is on steamo
>>338231663
>Learning weapon respwan times enables a sense of urgency and strategy also player placement on map to recover power weapons.
You can't learn timers when it's a mystery when they're going to start up again.
>all competitive H2 maps had powerups and power weapons so invalid
They had maybe 1 or 2 snipers in most cases. Or a Sword.
Only a couple of competitively-viable Halo 2 maps had even a single powerup on them, the two that come to mind immediately are a pair of Halo 1 remakes.
Halo 2 maps in general have less contestable items on the map.
>Halo 2 had, BXR, Double Shot, rocket jump, nade jump, BXB, nade reload etc..
And all of them were easy to pull off. A BLB or nade launch in H1 was possible to fuck up even if you had thumbs.
>subjective
No, objective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCU
>matters only to casuals
False.
> but it slowed the game down
Objectively false.
>while being irrelevant in the grand sceme of things.
It added a layer of depth where players had to make sure they didn't get hit by a stray grenade or sniper body shot, because it would leave semi-permanent damage.
>but to say H1 was more competitive than Halo 2 is down right retarded
If you actually played on LAN against good kids, you'd realize that you're the retarded one.
>>338232365
Halo 2's flaws gave the game character and some of it's flaws were viable options in competitive gameplay. I did play against good kids but the game was less competitive even though it had a higher skill ceiling, Is that difficult to understand? Halo CE were harder to play for the average player but it wasn't as diverse and as competitive as a more finished Halo 2.
>>338232103
KI and Forza run great, but I refuse to pay money to Microsoft until they add support for 3rd party mods. I want stuff like FRAPS, SweetFX and custom Nvidia/AMD settings to work.
>>338232103
Yeah, but what about good games though.
>>338222031
It wasnt really Halo since 4, and yet you apparently liked it so I dont see what makes 5 much worse in comparison.
>>338222218
This
It references Mark V [b] but it's based on the Mark VII picture from the comics.
>windows 10
I have to join the botnet to play Halo on PC now?
