What went wrong?
They challenged Blizzard.
The End.
>Friend bought it, so tried it on his Steam sharing
>Unskippable intro that lasts forever
>Near the end of the prologue, steam d/ced, so the game booted me back to the main menu
>Had to replay the prologue again
>Had to watch the intro AGAIN
>Game somehow runs worse despite looking exactly the same as borderlands
>Finish the prologue, try to get into a public match
>20 minutes of waiting later, still no game
Yeah, it's dead
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Releasing a cartoonish team based multiplayer FPS at the same time as Overwatch
I'll play it when it's F2P
or not
mobas are inherently shit anyway
>>338162495
They actively challenged blizzard and Blizzard retaliated with a open beta on the release week of battleborn.
That and it is made by Gearbox. No one really trusts that the game would be any good.
>altering the link
I don't even want to play Battleborn, but you can't just alter headlines like that and post them here
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/battleborn-price-dropped-40-amazon-right-now-xbox-one/
Literally everything. Shit marketing, bad character design, bad GAME design (no demographic), and Randy showing up in all these threads on full damage control.
It's pretty funny.
No one was buying it, since no one gives a fuck about a first person ASSFAGGOTS made by Queerbox.
>>338162495
They expected people to pay $60 for a MOBA, when the rest of the competition is F2P.
>>338162495
MOBAS
>>338162495
>What went wrong?
Gearbox.
The last thing they did that actually made money was Memelands 2.
>>338163390
I love Dota 2
I have no reason to switch to another ASSFAGGOTS that dumb down mechanics
I dont understand how the game companies dont understand this
>>338164039
Well considering the most successful game right now is dota 2 with dumb downed mechanics it's not too hard to believe
Bad marketing
>>338164308
League came out before Dota 2, and retains their player base for it
But I have the feeling LOL is dying out, I dont hear about it as much and my friends dont play it as much
>>338163295
Jebus Christu!
>>338164701
A lot of the LoL babbies i know moved on to SMITE.
>>338163295
I'm pretty sure that's slightly cherripicked but still, holy fuck.
>>338162495
Oh that can't possibly be real.
>it's not
well 6/10 for getting me to check
>>338164862
>People play Smite
Thats news to me
>>338162676
Basically this. Randy and co. thought they could get a head start on Overwatch. Too bad for them Bilzzard knew exactly what they were doing and deliberately started the beta right before Battleborn came out.
Also Anthony Burch had a hand in the writing of the game
>Reminder that both are shit.
Overwatch is a shallow turd polished to a mirror sheen.
Battlememe is a smaller, less shallow turd with trans influences.
>>338165175
Best MOBA on the market
>>338164946
It is cherrypicked but the UI is intrusive as fuck regardless. Everyone thought Overwatch was bad when we first seen the UI, Battleborn is much, much worse.
>>338163315
Randy is the new Derek Smart
>>338165290
Gigantic's better, it just needs to fucking come out already.
>>338165290
>3rd person camera view without using the y axis
Lol its a LOL clone with a gimmicky camera
>>338163295
>cherry picking
Typical Blizzdrone
>>338165290
I heard HoTS actually got better since Blizzard finally started doing competitive seasons
>>338165175
A lot of people do, it's got a much better payment model than LoL and the third person perspective makes it less of a clickathon.
>>338164701
lol seems to be trying to drive away its player base.
It still has the better game, but each season it gets worse.
>>338165267
>Overwatch is a shallow turd polished to a mirror sheen.
Great stoner game to play with more casual friends.
I also very very much like the sound design, never expected the sounds to be so crispy in a cartoon blizzard shooter.
Battleborn just looks like a more messy assfaggots Borderlands.
>>338165485
Don't forget that with SMITE you actually have to study each character properly and know who is good and bad against said character. Lot of trial and error.
>>338165439
I thought Gigantic got cancelled
I liked the game. I'll definitely play it when it goes F2P.
>talk shit
>get hit
>>338165576
Nah, Motiga's kinda strapped for cash so they've been on the corner hooking since last Winter.
Perfect World Entertainment picked them up, threw some money their way, and asked for exclusivity. So now they're whoring themselves out to PWE and Microsoft, but at least they might release this year.
>>338165716
Battleborn logo looks like it's giving you the finger.
>>338165485
Third person also limits the abilities
It feels like everything is an Aoe attack or Line attack or steroid
Its kind of boring
>>338163390
Not a MOBA. Even the MOBA gamemode is better than MOBAs.
I want Pitchford homeless, sucking dicks for cash.
>>338163295
I actually remember the thread when that image on the left was created..fun times
>>338165716
>Still image of Zen not even doing his fucking emote
YOU FUCKED IT UP
>>338166109
Well, we're half-way there.
>>338166109
Well he's sucking dicks but not for cash, merely enjoyment.
>>338162495
Oh cool, I might wait until they add some more characters though since I played everyone already in the beta.
>>338165794
>PWE
Gigantic is dead to me.
>>338162495
I do not know a single person who actually gave a shit about this game.
>>338165467
Plenty of skills take you up into the air
Also the movement system is much deeper than both LoL and Dota's
>>338162676
>pretending Blizzard is still a good game developer
You can dream I guess.
>>338162851
>Releasing a cartoonish team based multiplayer FPS at the same time as Overwatch when Team Fortress 2 and MOBAs exist.
Fixed that for you.
>>338166324
There was an AMA onledditwhere devs were assuring people that the partnership would in no way make the game 'pay-to-win' or add hyperaggressive monetization.
I'll believe it when I see it.
>>338162495
It's still 60$ you dumbfucks.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/394230/
You idiot fucks cant even check simple places and just believe meme posters over truth.
>inb4 shill
I'm not buying either battleborn or overwatch
It's got the worst art style I've seen in any game for as long as I can remember. Like holy shit what were they thinking with 100% of those characters. They go from completely uninspired to absolutely retarded with no middle ground.
>>338166436
It's literally the same system which uses wasd instead so it's actually shittier.
>>338166149
have a gif for your troubles
>>338164701
You mean how Pendragon deleted the dotaforums and made it relink to the LoL website?
>>338163315rip ao shin
>>338166436
is it more complicated than dota movement? I fail to see how
>>338166375
I don't even know anyone who played the beta.
>>338166694
It's also 60$ on ps store and xbox marketplace
>>338167071
I remember a friend of mine and me were gonna try out the Battleborn beta but then we both got Overwatch beta and completely forgot about it. Even when it was over we didn't want to try out Battleborn and are willing to wait it out.
Guess it's some magic shit I don't know, none of my friends tried out battleborn.
>>338167374
Honestly, Battleborn feels like the poor-man's Overwatch
>>338166467
>Being retarded
He was implying that they're extremely popular. No mention of quality, you downy.
>>338167475
Their popularity is subjective, considering the fact that their fanbase has been declining steadily for the past five years.
>>338162687
Memelands had the same unskippable shit. I was able to mod it out though.
>>338165267
Heyo Randy, can you please kill yourself so we can finally stop hearing about your memeborn game shit.
>>338167067
>is it more complicated than dota movement? I fail to see how
You can move and attack at the same time, though there is a penalty for doing so
In addition, there is a movement penalty for backing up or side-strafing, which also stacks with the movement penalty for shooting while moving
Also their "Flash" spell functions more like Dota's Blink Dagger, in that it gets put on a cooldown for a few seconds when you get hit
ONE
FUCKING
LANE
THEY MADE A DOTALIKE WITH ONE. FUCKING. LANE.
Ignore all the other bullshit that makes this a mediocre game with shitty collision detection. Ignore the meme humor and the lack of balance in the hero designs. Their main moba mode has a single fucking lane to work with, you can't do anything with that shit. Soon as your first tower is down you are fucked 100% of the time, there is literally no coming back because there is ONE FUCKING LANE GETTING ALL THE FUCKING PRESSURE.
Fuck's sake Gearbox, how can you be this fucking dumb? How do you fuck up something so fundamental to the "genre" you're ripping off here?
>>338167989
It's actually not hard to do a comeback in Incursion. Their matchmaking is causing this perception though, because it creates stacked teams for some reason.
>>338162495
It was developed by Gearbox.
A developer that has not produced a single great game.inb4 faggots start spouting that Borderlands was anything but mediocre derivative shit.
>>338167067
Movement speed changes depending on what direction you're moving and if you're attacking, if you're running away from someone you have to make a decision on whether you want to be moving slower and damaging them (backing up) or moving at full speed (running forward) making it more likely to get away and take less damage.
>>338168219
>It's actually not hard to do a comeback in Incursion
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and doubt that after the first tower is gone. Your team needs to be at the top of their game and aggressively pushing out the enemy for like ten solid minutes just to get over to their T1 tower, let alone do any damage to it.
>>338165485
That $20 get all past and future heroes pack is genius. Smite isn't the best moba but I'm invested enough to play ~10 hours ever few months to try out the new heroes, but not pressured to keep dumping money or playing more than I want too.
>>338168876
You can get it for even cheaper on keysites and shit too, so much cheaper that you're paying roughly the same for as you might be paying for a single champion in LoL.
No fap bait
One reason why Overwatch was successful
>>338165852
While overwatches looks like legs spread.
>>338168349
Halo pc port
>>338169850
I thought it looked kind of like an iron sight, which is weird since there are no iron sights in the game.
>>338169965
>he thinks it takes the same amount of effort to port a game as it does to make it from scratch
>>338167593
>I was able to mod it out
I'm sure you're telling the truth and not a 14 year old trying to sound cool because he wants to run with the boys. That opening cutscene is absolutely skipabble.
>>338162495
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA STILLBORNERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
BEE TEA EFF OH
XD
>>338162495
Gearbox made it.
>>338171668
I remember you having to mod the loading shit and logos out when you started the game, but you're right the opening cinematic is skippable. This dude's retraded. Battleborn's opening is like 9 fucking minutes and BL2's opening was like 2-3 with actual good music.
>>338169598
Overwatch looks liek disney and people love disney :)
Stillborn looks like uh deviantart and well that certainly has its freakish audienceFEMINISM IS AWESOME
>>338165716
>talk shit
>get shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokdL-0iV9s
>>338171793
Fuck me and I thought Bethesda and EA were cunts.
>>338168349
Brothers in Arms was alright until Hell's Highway fucked everything up.
>>338172016
They are, just because someone's a bigger cunt doesn't stop them being cunts.
>>338167008
>Pixelwatch
Post more.
>>338168349
Brothers in Arms was great.
>>338167580
>subjective
The beta had over 9 million people playing it
That's not a subjective thing at all
Personally I hate mobashits, the resource gathering for an in-game advantage leads to snowbally one sided bullshit, the gameplay tends to be stale because of it and the matches are way too long.
Meanwhile overwatch is much closer to a traditional FPS, the matches are extremely quick (almost too quick), and at no time does the enemy player have any distinct advantage over you. (no extra levels, items, etc)
If I'm going to play a fps I don't want to deal with mobashit elements.
>>338162495
Everything
>>338167580
>their popularity is subjective
Top kek
>>338172507
Wasn't it actually 9m logins?
>>338172507
>>338173042Blizzard shills
>>338172968
I will never not be revolted by that elf.
>>338173773
m8 you gotta update this when overwatch release, big kek awaiting.
>>338173219
9,7 million unique players, biggest open game beta in history
>The developer announced today 9.7 million players logged on for some "intense, competitive action."
>The open beta—which ran from May 3 until May 11—was Blizzard's biggest ever. Players on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC logged over 4.9 billion minutes, which adds up to over 81 million hours, across 37 million matches. For comparison, just over 2 million people played Gearbox Software's team-based shooter Battleborn.
>>338174396
Have they released statistics for each platform? Which ones had more people playing?I want to shitpost about it on /v/
What's funny is they're adding a new hero the day Overwatch comes out.
I decided to give the game a rent. Some designs were nice, some were so out there but looked generic if that makes sense. UI is not a clusterfuck as that one picture shows but still looks out of place.
My biggest issue is the gameplay though. In the end the only thing the fps part contributes to the gameplay is now I need to aim at shit and reload. If they removed that bit then Battleborn would be the most barebones moba released
>>338174396
I'm so ready for the industry and media to come to all the wrong conclusions from the success of that beta.
Because here's the one thing it does mean:
PEOPLE REALLY FUCKING LIKED DEMOS SO THEY COULD MAKE INFORMED BUYING DECISIONS.
>>338175572
people like demos, but publishers don't
understandably- anything else than a stellar demo is bad for the game
>>338175572
But anon that means they can play the game for 48 hours.
FOR FREE!
That's not making us money at all! That's practically giving the game away! (for two days!!!)
>>338167580
It's about to get a bit bigger in a few days senpai
>>338163295
Mon Dieu!
>>338174659
I assume it was PC
>>338175572
The vast majority of people who play betas have no interest in buying the game when it comes out, they're just playing it because it's something to do and doesn't cost them anything.
>>338170073
I thought the OW logo was a high five.
>>338176898
Looked like the Buddha hand thing to me which kinda makes sense since they are a peace keeping forcethat kills dirty Omnics
>>338162495
Misleading post. I think it goes on sale at Best Buy for $40 next week but there's no permanent price drop. You already knew that, though.
>>338167374
Looks like Blizzard's marketing worked
Knowing full well people would gravitate towards their game, they released betas every time Battleborn had one.
>>338167468
Not comparable games desu
>>338173634
the fact that you think Blizzard has people shilling for them proves they are popular
top fucking kek once again, good job undermining your own argument.
>>338175572
That won't happen
I can recall a study that shows DEMOS reduce the sales if anything
Developers aren't stupid and wouldn't do that
>>338178179
The statements you two made are not contradictory. Consumers like demos so that they can make informed decisions but publishers hate it because it actually informs people. What's the point of generating all that hype for people to play a demo and figure out the game isn't really that great. AAA publishers do not care about sustainability or good games, they care about first week to first month sales before everyone realizes their crap is just that.
This
>>338162687
way to prove that you never played the game. intro is skip able and there is no way in hell you wanted 20 mins for a match even with the low numbers it only takes at most 5 mins to get a game
>>338164946
it is to a degree all those things can show up at the same time but if they did it would only be for a short time
>>338174659
Not sure but most blizzdrones are on pc
Fight against blizzard and pandering to a demographic that doesn't play video games.
>>338167468
they aren't comparable other than both being fps.
>>338168349
>implying Blizzard ever made anything good
>>338179364
JUST
>>338163295
>Fingerless glove meter
Everytime
>>338162495
Shit art design.
The game ended up looking really cheap because of that.
>>338162687
>Unskippable intro that lasts forever
They had to force anyone who started up the game to watch this shit without skipping? goddamn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sai7jPmYg5k
>>338173634
kys
>>338162495
Hahaha wow..just wow...this is truly the power of Gearbox games...truly pathetic.
>>338180820
i liked it
>>338168349
Brothers in Arms, Half-life Opposing Force
>>338180510
Warcraft 2&3, Starcraft, Diablo 1&2 LoDOverwatch
>>338181054
It's not bad for amateurish work, but quality aside, that length is inexcusable, what the fuck is the director of this flick thinking?
>>338162676
But Battleborn was announced first, and Blizzard was the one that lined up their open beta with the games release.
but you know what would be REALLY great?a crossover game of Overwatch vs Battlebornthere aren't enough new crossover games......I miss marvel vs capcom...................
are Overwatch shills really so desperate to make their game look better that they have to make shit up? that's just sad. we all know Overwatch will do better, so i don't really understand all the Battleborn hate
>>338180820
That looks so amateurish.
I can't believe someone got paid to animate that.
>>338181190
Honestly i would fucking love this.
>>338181190
>crossing over 2 unestablished franchise
I like cross overs too but no thanks to your suggestion.
I want another mugen frontier, fuckin project x zone
>>338181280
It's /v/, everyone on this board shills for something.
>>338181280
Because BB is shit baby >:)
>>338180820
I can understand people not liking it but it was only unskippable for a few hours then they fixed it.
>>338181280
It's made by Gearbox, one of the most cancerous video game companies in existence.
>>338181280
welcome to /v/ newfriend
>>338181190
How about a crossover between Final Fantasy 15 and Battleborn?
This was done by the art director of ff15.
>>338181405I shit on everything to make faggots who have no control over their feelings mad, even if i like it
>>338181294
tbqh the animation isn't that bad, it's just that they have issues with compressing the length and managing the content of the video, lack of shading on characters and QUALITY, it looks really bad because it's actually featured as the official intro for the game.
>>338181420
>it was only unskippable for a few hours
still inexcusable
why do people hate pitchford and gearbox so much? I've never player borderlands. is it because of the reddit tier jokes?
>As you may know, a while back we announced that Battleborn would be receiving five FREE characters post-launch, bringing the total number of playable Battleborn to a whopping thirty. Well, the time has come for us to unleash the first, Alani, onto the Solus System! Alani, a member of the Eldrid faction, uses the power of water to help exterminate her foes (and heal her friends). If this sounds like fun to you, then we’ve got good news: Alani will be released on May 31st! On top of that, if you own the Season Pass, Battleborn Digital Deluxe Edition, or you played the Open Beta on Playstation 4, you’ll get to play Alani a full week early starting on May 24th. You can purchase Alani for 47,500 in-game credits, or you can instantly unlock her using a Hero Key
SIXTY BUCKS
>>338181280
we like to shit on bad video games and bad video game companies, bonus points for them having hidden agendas.
battle(still)born is a combination of all 3 elements, combine that with the fact that a much more popular company decided to fuck with it and further sabotage it sales, shit-slinging threads are born.
>>338181661
>only worthawhile games are medicore bullet-sponges with lots of meh guns
>literally stole money from Sega and got away with it
>Anthony Burch+SJW agendas
>>338181767
Yeah. It's pretty fun. Threads like these are the reason I still visit /v/.
>>338181661
Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
I don't give a shit about Bordermemes, but what they did to those 2 is inexcusable.
>>338162495FEMINISM IS AWESOME!Inb4 b-but c-context. Don't even fucking remotely inject this shit into video games unless you call it something else.
>>338181932
is there any real proof that the stole the money? see people saying this all time
>>338181661
It's really only /v/ being /v/. I like Borderlands quite a bit and so do most people, although I admit the writing can get pretty shit at times.
too many bullies
>>338181759
U wot m8? I would expect that a $60 MOBA has at least all characters unlocked. You still need to grind ingame currency or buy a season pass? And what after the 5 characters? Gotta pay up for the rest?
Overwatch is a quality game with lots of work and time, Stillborn is a rushed Overwatch clone with the worst artstyle I've seen in years
>>338182058
The vast majority of the A:CM budget just magically disappeared, then they somehow got a budget together for BL2.
>>338167580
>3 new games in the past 3 years
>One is a successful card game played on mobiles.
>Declining fanbase
How can you be so retarded
>>338162495
It showed that gearbox is a shit developer that got lucky once.
>>338181661
Gearbox is everything wrong with western devs. Arrogant, think they know everything better, condescending towards ttheir potential customers and talking constant shit to the competition. Also absolutely in love with their products that they are blind for any flaws and dismiss any criticism as 'cyber harrasment' or 'bullying'.
>>338182334
People have known that for years.
>>338181983
>getting triggered by the utterance of a word rather than the context of its use.
>getting triggered at all
>>338182078
The writing is shit, period.
I agree that they can be fun, could use more variety though.
>>338182180
I'd argue that blizzard has more budget and man power to polish the game and its related media to a crystal clear mirror and in stillborn's case they just say "eh, good enough" and shipped it.
>>338181661
Randy pitchford is a man that predicts the future by saying the opposite of what will actually happen.
>vita will crush 3ds
Basically, you better hope he hates what you like.
To be honest, I thought this game was FREE and I still wasn't interested. $40? Hell no.
>>338182180
Battleborn was announced 6 months before Overwatch.
>>338182180
>overwatch and battleborn are the same genre
I love this meme.
>>338182361
this entire post, can't put it better myself
complete with the fact that they are ACTUAL scumbags and not just in the SJW-sense gearbox has all the rights to be shat on.
>>338182392
You're thinking of /v/, I'm talking everyone else.
>>338162495
Overwatch = marketing
Battleborn = videogame
>>338182767
>Overwatch = marketing
>Battleborn = beta
ftfy
>>338182058
The budget for Aliens was $60 million, does it look like a game that had a budget of $60 million to you?
>>338172968
That thing on the right disgusts me every time i see it
>>338182613
they are: Hero FPS
>>338182767
This is accurate.
>>338182767
Battleborn also has a lot of marketing too, they bought a lot of ad spaces during some big NBA shows in clapstain and in bongistan which I currently resides the underground and the TV are plastered with battle-stillborn's ad until very recently replaced by overwatch.
>>338182613
>still thinking this meme argument holds any value
it has a roster of character to choose from and its a FPS, the crowd they are marketing towards doesn't give a shit about the genre you absolute retard.
>>338172968
What happened?
She looks like Brianna wu now
>>338183064
TF2 is now a moba
>>338181559
That's awesome.
>>338183103
What is it with western developers intentionally making female characters look like men?
>>338183193
read
>the crowd they are marketing towards
they give a shit about diehard videogame semantics nerds but normies where the money is at, as far as they are concern they are all the same game.
>>338183193
TF2's always been a "moba."
>multiplayer
yup
>online
yup
>battle
yup
>arena
yup
>>338183396
Nigger that makes 99% of multiplayers games a MOBA, stop being a twat. You know damn well he's talking about ASSFAGGOTS.
>>338183550
>twat
No, I'm just careful about what terms I use. ASSFAGGOTS is acceptable.
>this is the face that killed a gearbox game
Just for that she is best waifu.
>>338183716
Caring about semantics of that nature kind of does makes you a twat.
>>338173773
>12,070 all-time peak
>even motherfucking RUNESCAPE has literally four times as many people playing
ho-ly shit
>>338167580
>subjective
Do you know what subjective even means?
There's objective facts and numbers that prove how popular their products are, there's nothing subjective about it you blathering moron.
>>338162687
>Unskippable intro that lasts forever
same thing in siege, even if you alt tab it just pauses
>>338182613
Reminds me of Infamous v Prototype back in the day.
>>338181661
Recently they took off Duke Nukem 3d from all shops so you literally can't buy it no more. Now they're doing their own remaster which they'll be selling. There was already comment from some Duke veteran working with them that they're completely fucking up mod support and map maker
>>338183103
Face is tilted down and illuminated, easy trick. Ironically, that's what every transfaggot does for a profile picture because it can make literally anyone look decent. Cept abos I guess.
>>338183853
Yeah but this is 4chan, so that's what I'll stay. It's nice there're still places that aren't hugboxes.
>>338184030
>It's nice there're still places that aren't hugboxes.
>implying we aren't in a reverse hugbox
>>338184234
Hey, at least we don't have downvotes in here.Just nazi mods deleting entire threads sometimes.
>>338162495
It wasn't released as a console exclusive first to build up longing and jealousy in PC players.
A year later all they'd have to do is release a goty version with all the dlc either cheap or included with it on the PC version that the pc kids would buy to "spite" console kids that have moved on to other games by then.
>>338184030
This anon is a bit pedantic, but he's right. I don't get what the fuck is wrong with ARTS. You wouldn't call skyrim a "single player offline adventure simulator."
Plus riot is absolute dogshit who merely stole the success of those that came before.
>>338182767
Overwatch = fun and quality
Battleborn = cancer and SJW
Fixed
>>338183103
God damn the art style is unappealing.
>>338183302
>intentionally making female characters look like men
Feminism has convinced some people that creating visually appealing women is wrong. And gearbox is definitely one of those studios which bought into this really hard.
Do what i do: buy from devs that make feminine women, ignore devs that make ugly women. The gameplay is bound to be better anyway since polygon-like devs and numales who bash gamers everyday probably don't like video games to begin with and make shitty ones. Case in point: Battleborn
>>338165175
I hear you get paid a million dollars when you switch so
>>338184030
>muh hugbox meme
End yourself.
>>338184436
Riot didn't really steal anything if the developers of DOTA didn't capitalize on it themselves (and they took the idea from Aeon of Strife, so you can't really blame riot for stealing the idea from someone who stole it from someone else). They just seen an opening in the market and took it.
>>338184436
Call it COCK - Classes, Objects, Creep Killing
Let's get this shit started
>Gearbox
>>338162495
Shitloads.
They made a game nobody actually wanted, not even one people didn't yet realize they wanted. You can't just stick TF2, Red Alert, and DOTA into a blender full of fugly design and expect anything good to come out of it. It ain't gonna fuckin' work, especially not in the hands of those jackasses at Gearbox. This should be a cautionary tale of why you shouldn't try to put out the sun (make a game that effectively invents its own market) with a water pistol (the Gearbox devs).
What's more, they didn't even read the writing on the wall. The last title to try and "transform gaming forevuur!!" was Destiny, better known now as the safest safe that ever safed a safe. Destiny didn't pave the way for a new kind of game, it just whacked off about the mythical MMOFPS market that remains insubstantial to this day. Blizzard saw what was coming; allegedly, Overwatch is the rebuilt scraps of Project Titan, a marked shift in game design from MMO elements to TF2 competitor.I know, it's a terrible plan to build a 6v6 team FPS to fight a hat collection simulator, but still.
Couple all that with ass-tastic marketing attempts. For example, look at pic related (and try to ignore that it's clearly pilfered from - of all things - Neofag's Battleborn general). Observe that buzzword-salad tweet. Then look at the decompressed version. Attempt to divine at what point Randy starts actually sounding he has any goddamn idea what he's doing. And then don't forget that Blizzard dunked all over Gearbox at every opportunity. Battleborn was an easy target for Overwatch to draw comparisons to, and then shit on.
The moral of the story, is you like Battleborn, I feel bad for you. Also you can have whatever opinion on OW you want, I mean shit I don't even know exactly how I feel about the game.
>>338185030
ASSFAGGOTS is still the undisputed champion.
>>338165716
>What are you gonna do, move your beta to our launch date
source?
>>338185098
>Randy Pitchford
>>338185128
That's a lot of words to say "Blizzard can sell anything because they operate a cult."
>>338185381
>not getting the joke
stop being this new
>>338185513
i'm guessing it's a play on the "what are you gonna do stab me" maymay
>>338185449
>That's a lot of words to say "Gearbox is shit at marketing and game design."
FTFY
>>338185612
yes
>>338185612
Good job, you did it. I'm proud of you anon. you're so cool!
>>338185814
oh boy! i can't wait until my friends at reddit hears about this one!
>>338165290
not saying much
>>338185381
damn you're stupid
>>338183756
>be britbong
>hate bong-cliches
>tracer main
goddamn the waifuism too stronk
>>338162495
Worse waifus than Overwatch. Literally all that matters.
>>338186203
meme knowledge = intelligence
they let people describe battleborn that its pretty much smite with borderlands memes
and thats horrible.
bad marketing. bad timing.
>>338185449
Two separate issues. Gearbox being bad and Blizzard being, shall we say, effective, are not intrinsically related. They simply happen to coincide in this case.
>competing against a market share monopoly who had an entire decade to mature it's game
Great idea.
>>338185449
You are saying like Gearbox actually made a good game and was shat on purely because of blizzard shills.
Even if overwatch does not exist, nobody would buy battleborn.
>>338186876
I think the dude who wrote >>338185128 touched on an interesting point near the end. Blizzard seems to have not just positioned themselves to drive Battleborn into the dust, but to have used Battleborn as a marketing point. OW is a game that embraces similar mechanics but pulls them off in a much smoother fashion (not to mention the designs being leaps and bounds better). Just by this nature, releasing it close to BB allowed people to better make a comparison between the two. I'm not even particularly interested in OW because TF2 still appears to be a much better game, but when I see BB I actually feel more like playing OW.
But I think you're right as well. The design of BB by itself is going to drive away a lot of people. It's just so... bad. I don't even know much about the game but when I see the designs I am repulsed. Gearbox's art team needs to be canned.
Wait a minute isnt this a good thing?
Jokes and shitting on gearbox aside, plenty of people on v/ said theyd be interested if it was 40 instead of 60
>>338185128
another point that i think gearbox never understood is that you can't charge 60 bucks for a game that you want to be competitive, at least not on PC.
with the exception of CSGO, almost all of the big name esports games are F2P, and thats because in a competitive game other players ARE your content. you want as many people playing as possible, thus you want as low a barrier to entry as possible. no one wants to be the best at a game noone plays (except speedrunners).
do they think dota 2 could've pulled 18mil from the international if it were a big box game? fuck no.
all of this on top of the fact that there is already a devoted esports scene -- if they want to compete, charging full retail for their "platform" is just full-on retard mode.
>>338186608
also bad character design, the females look like brianna wu and the heavy guy has disgusting proportions, it's meant to be exaggerated but they went full deviantart
>>338165217
Didn't Burch quit?
>>338188228
yeah compared to overwatch, its hard to choose the underdog.
which is why they should have never went up against the release
>>338188203
CSGO costs 15 bux though just to have a small entry barrier to prevent smurfing and hacking as carrying your team is a lot easier than in MOBAs.
Yes there are still smurfs and hackers but it would be a lot worse if the game was f2p.
>already down 20 bucks this close to release
F A I L U R E
>>338179514
>your experience with the game is false because of my ignorant beliefs
cuck
>>338187684
It's for the Xbone version on Amazon only, no drops on Steam pricingyet
>>338188530
>>already down 20 bucks this close to release
>price drop within first month of retail
>even before their first content patch
literally RIPborn
>>338188832
Does a heart good to see an awful company like Gearbox get shat on.
>>338169361
I paid 5 britbongs for the full god thing, have yet to try it properly but i'm more likely to do so than buy battle(still)born for 4 times as much.
>>338186798
Who are you even talking about
>>338181172
Are you retarded? Overwatch was shown at least a year before Battleborn at a blizzcon as Titan.
>>338188943
honestly i've been loving all of this. i fucking love the OWvBB debates, the shill/countershilling, the shitposting storms, all of it. watching gearbox suffer is only the icing on the cake.
and i don't even actually care about either game. this debacle is pure theater to me, best thing to happen to /v/ in years.
>>338183902
Oldschool runescape has 70k people playing at peak
>>338181172
>>338189098
indeed. Titan has been in production since at least WoTLK, if not before. overwatch is one of the big reasons all of their recent games have been shit and why the only half-way competent game they've produced in years is a fucking card game.
>>338189390
Pretty much. It isn't even the whole Tortanic cancer deal, these threads are just hilarious on the sidelines.
Battleborn's launch is pretty much "How to not launch a fucking video game 101"
>Buy Battleborn
>Play a few levels to get familiar with characters
>Finally queue for MP game
>5 minutes
>10 minutes
>15 minutes
>Fuck it, it's late, I'll try again tomorrow evening
>Next evening
>5 minutes
>10 minutes
>15 minutes
>Get bored of waiting
>Go play Doom instead
>Still haven't played a single match of Battleborn
It would probably be a fun game if I ever got to play it.
>>338189920
so making SP story mode was a mistake
how interesting
>>338165512
It's solo queue.
There's a lot of people who stopped buying RP and playing Ranked exclusively because Dynamic Queue is not fun and they want Solo Queue back.
People told them not to do it, cited examples like HOTS that tried doing it and failed so they reverted it, and they still charged right in to remove Team Ranked and Solo Queue while adding Dynamic with a literal mindset of "We know those failed but we can make it work!".
They promised to bring back Solo Queue but realized it would kill their precious Dynamic one so now it's basically shelved forever while they do their song and dance of "It's still in the works / in the future blah blah".
You know how Blizzard killed WoW? Riot is basically doing the same thing to League.
>>338163147
That's still bad.
>>338162495
No waifus and looks generic af
>>338182580
nah senpai. overwatch is project titan, which was announced -years- ago.
>>338182180
>Stillborn
>>338192964
No it isn't Titan was an MMO and got scrapped, only the engine is the same.
>>338193394
it was going to be a FPS MMO. all the did was scrap the MMO part and copy TF2. still, its been in development for much longer than shillborn and it shows.
Why are battleborne's women so ugly. They are either butch lesbians or freakish clowns except for phoebe. Also there the Galileo but she never leaves her suit.
>>338193540
because they hired cheap artists with no talent
>>338163295
This is exactly the same reason I did not like WildStar..
>LEVEL UP!!!!!!!!!
>YOU ARE SUCH A BAD ASS!!!
every 20 minutes..
>>338185098
>battleborn
>>338193793
Hello darkness, my old friend...
>>338165467
Holy shit did you just say "lol" as in laughing and in no less than two words later did you say "LOL" as in League of Legends? How is it summertime already.
>>338194534
>Being so autistic about a post 5 hours ago
lol such a LOL fag
>man overwatch must be a dope game, it's got it's own sticky on the battleborn steam forums
>>338184030
Better a hugbox than gearbox. Gearbox raped and killed a girl in 1993. They just ganged up on her and raped and killed a girl in 1993. Does anyone else remember when Gearbox raped and killed a girl in 1993?
>>338185449
Well at least they didn't rape and kill a girl in 1993.
>>338194930
what the hell are you going off on?
>>338193528
Titan was an FPSMMO but it wasn't a hero shooter the same way Battleborn and Overwatch ended up being. Randy coined the term 'hero shooter' before Overwatch was even seen.
>>338162495
everything
>>338193678
there was nothing wrong with wildstar's level up effects, it lasted 2 seconds and only happened every so often depending on how fast you were leveling. no way comparable to battleborn.
>>338194930
I actually remember reading about this long ago.
what the dicks is "hobby-grade co-op"?
>>338162495
>What went wrong?
Gearbox.
>>338195326
Well, I saw many times people complaining about gun size in view in fps games, but it was always fine for me. With this one, I think I understand them.
>>338195160
That time gearbox raped and killed a girl in 1993.
>>338181190
Crossover games are shit and you have shit taste.
>>338194930
Gilbert? What are you doing on 4chan?
>Mobafied shooters
How about no
>>338194930
Oh shit, I think I remember reading about that.
Gearbox really did kill and rape a girl in 1993
>>338196093
monday night combat was great.
>>338183940
they actually had to patch it so you could skip it like 2 weeks ago
when will devs learn unskippable intros are fucking stupid
>>338196093
>characters with unique abilities are exclusive to mobas
>>338168483
>not choosing a character that's capable of destroying the sentry on it's own
srs who needs team play when you can rush the enemy objectives when they are distracted.
>>338162495
They bought into their own bullshit. They thought they could do an established genre (team based class based shooter) instead of mmo skinner box garbage slapped onto an fps.
>>338196297
Huh? I thought battle born had creeps and leveling up
Thats a moba by definition
It's a boring concept and style of game, but I was put off by the visuals alone. Absurdly poor visual design.
>>338162495
Outmaneuvered on every single aspect by Blizzard, businesswise and gamewise.
I also have no idea why every other company is trying to chase the MOBA market when it's already dominated by pretty much 2 big players and everyone else competing for scraps. Making the thing an FPS instead of an isometric clicker doesn't mean the game gets better.
Overwatch is more of a redesigned TF2 and honestly, I have no idea why Gearbox even tried to directly compete against it if they had differentiating characteristics.
>>338163315
It really is funny and entertaining to see this game just fail miserably right out of the gate. Feels good seeing the signs of the game becoming a failure before launch and then having them come true and then becoming even more of a failure then you predicted.
>>338178179
Makes sense, games have overall gotten shit since demos have died out.
>>338197116
>rpgs are mobas
wow
>>338197442
>Nobody should try anything at all
>>338197621
>Tortanic 2.0 syndrome
I'm fucking sick of /v/.
>>338197621
You revel in the failure of people that aren't competing with you? That's really fucking pathetic.
>>338198039
>aren't competing with you?
Then why did Randy try to compete with Blizzard?
>>338165852
Look again.
>>338197828
>rpgs have creeps continously pushing an objective
>>338198026
They went after markets that they clearly did not do enough research on and had no compelling factors to convince people to buy their game.
It's like Ferrari suddenly releasing a self-driving car for everyone that still is too expensive.
>>338198336
Because the general pulled his head of his ass and thought his troops should more useful for something other than leveling up the enemy team.
>>338198278
really indicative of how gearbox's ass looks like
>>338162495
Gearbox. They're finally paying for shitting in everyone's mouth and calling it chocolate after the Aliens: Colonial Marines scam.
>>338183416
Totally unrelated but what font is that? I wanna make shirts to make money of overwatcher next week
>>338186379
POP IT UP ME SHITTA
>>338198914
http://fonts.webtoolhub.com/font-n24913-bignoodletitling-oblique.aspx
>>338162495
I've said it before in another shill thread and I'll say it again here:
This is a game that NOBODY wanted.
No advertising certainly didn't help, but ultimately nobody wanted Battleborn to be made.
>>338180820
holy fuck, that was so tryhard it hurt. and the name battleborn itself is so cringe worthy. fuck me, who thought this was a good idea?
does battleborn have characters that can fly?
>>338166920
I read this and was like "oh cmon there has to be at least a couple cool looking heroes", then went and looked at the site. Wow, you're right, they somehow all suck ass and all look super boring. Glad this game is a huge failure
>>338200478
i really dont understand how they could fuck literally everything up. even the steam punk butler seems like it should've been a lay-up but even it comes off as tacky at best.
like, jesus fucking christ. its the definition of "over-design"
>be me
>actually liked bl2 at launch
>had a bunch of fun
>new dlc starts coming out
>"on man, this it great! Though this seems kinda broken"
>end up saying that a lot over the course of the post game
>they up the level cap to like 72
>now we're trading one shot kills from across the map
>certain skill trees were fucked late game
>krieg's fire rants were tossed out because people complained he talked too much
As time went on, it was starting to become clear to me just how the people of gearbox think. They'd rather trim than fix and ignore outright fucked up stuff like the additive elemental skill tree fot Maya and just make stuff like anarchy Gage aimless to the point where the last skill in that tree is just shit.
I fucked off of gearbox after that, they're the kind of people who just slowly unmake their own game. I was already salty about Burch's influence on the character writing and slowly making it on the level of scary movie tier humor, but the shit that was done to the gameplay itself just soured me to the point where I really can't put my faith in them.
>>338200057
Fly? Kind of. There's in Eagle in the game that has abilities that are the closest thing to flying.
>>338201071
>be me
Fuck off retard.
>>338197828
Don't your levels reset each match? I thought that was pretty much a moba signature.
>>338201292
>minecraft is a moba
>>338201192
When did 4chan move away from ">be me"?
I didn't get the fucken memo.
>>338162495
No split-screen co-op for PC.
And the lazy fucking developers excuses where along the lines of "WELL THAT TAKES EXTRA MAN HOURS TO DO, AND WE MADE THE PC HAVE MORE GRAPHICAL FEATURES INSTEAD".
I would of least grinded out the campaign with a bro
>>338201292
it is. hes being a fucktard.
mobas are just competitive, sped-run rpgs in a match/arena format
>>338201418
>Minecraft is an rpg
My memes are better than your memes friendo-sanrio. You don't want none of this, senpai.
>>338162495
Stillborn players on fucking suicide watch.
They are definitely the anthony burch of online communities
>>338188371
Burch can never quit. He is Part of gearbox now.
>>338201565
The maps that weren't in the beta run like dog shit. What the fuck is that about? And it's still using Unreal Engine 3.
>>338181156
>Forgetting Blackthorne
>>338201649
>game with multiple weapons, health points, exp and leveling up isn't an rpg
>>338201665
It's funny when people say "battle born fags" and the such like they actually exist here. I haven't seen any sort of following here what so ever. It's probably one of the saddest strawman whateverthefucks around right now.
>>338181190
heroes of the storm is blizzard crossover :^)
>>338201665
>They are definitely the anthony burch of online communities
>man: pitchford
>boy: bb playerbase
>>338163295
>tfw there's actually a fingerless glove meter in the bottom right
>>338201871
>it's a role playing game
>but your role is to literally play the game
Not how it works.
OVERWATCH HAS BETTER WAIFUS THIS IS WHY
>>338201565
I recall.
>>338202150
your role is being a miner/adventurer, are you pretending to be retarded for (you)s? take one you thirsty faggot
>>338202221
Why the fuck couldnt the local players using the same screen use one account?
Fucking HALO 3 did this.
If they're so concerned about unlocks, tie both players progress to one steam account.
>>338202194
and blizz money/namesake
and a fuckoff massive beta
oh right and its simple and simple sells
bb is a cluttered mess of design ideas that don't actually work that well together.
>>338182180
It's ridiculous how much more aesthetically pleasing overwatch is to battleborn. The color schemes are so nice, characters look good, even if they're weird, like roadhog or junkrat or winston. It's like the retards behind battleborn just took the dark souls character creator and started randomizing the meters and just pasted the results into their game
>>338171793
>>338172016
http://techraptor.net/content/duke-nukem-dust-up-gearbox-vs-gobeille
The story, if anyone like me is interested.
>>338193678
>>LEVEL UP!!!!!!!!!
>>YOU ARE SUCH A BAD ASS!!!
>every 20 minutes..
You might like the division, no matter how much you level up you are still under geared, under-leveled shit. The game never gives you the feeling that you are getting any better at it because you will never stay on the top for more than an hour before you are thrown into the next bracket full of no life retards, and ganking assholes that hilariously outgear you.
>>338202905
Can we use meme magic to make those murderers at gearbox's game tank more?
>>338202221
>the main reason we can't do splitscreen on the PC right is because we are tied to Steam for account management
>and steam does not allow you to have two Steam IDs logged in at the same time
You are a retarded, lying nigger and allow me to explain why.
Black Ops 3 Steam on the PC supports native splitscreen AND multi-monitor splitscreen across Campaign, Zombies and Multiplayer by having the second player act as a duplicate of the main player (Ex. Anon & Anon[1], etc) and this game was released just last year. You could of followed what they did to bring splitscreen over to PC, but instead you give us this silly bullshit excuse.
Fuck you Randy.
>>338202221
Sonic ASRT does have split screen, on Steam. There is even an achievement for playing local co op in it.
>>338167593
You can skip the opening cutscenes in BL2
>>338203285
We'd have to get something memetic from the game, which would imply that people are playing the it.
>>338203339
Halo CE allowed for multiple consoles to be connected for tournaments so it had LAN mode, Split Screen for up to 4 players and this was 15 years ago.
What I am saying is that even back then that was a nice thing the game and the xbox allowed and I never thought of them as revolutionary, in fact 4 player split screen was old hat by then after the N64 and here we are CURRENT YEAR and not only the game is over priced ( no MP should ever cost more than $20 In my opinion) it also provides less features than games older than a decade.
Fuck Gearbox.
>>338165290
Accurate
>>338195182
"hero" is just a stupid substitute for "class" if you ask me, I wish randy and blizzard both would stop pushing it.
Blizzard tapped in to the strong waifu and husbando market, Gearbox did not.
>>338191218
>Dynamic Queue
What the fuck does that mean? I read the updates page but I can't make shit out from all the buzzwords and marketing spin.
I tried both battleborn beta and overwatch beta
Battleborn on lasted 2 hour at best while overwatch got me at least 10 hour
It's more fun overall, wont buy any of them because they are 20$ imo, 30$ at best
>>338167580
>Their popularity is subjective
You're one stupid motherfucker.
>>338162495
You "forgot" to post the entire article title.
It's not even $40 on amazon anymore.
>>338203339
Serious Sam 3 also supports split screen
am i the only one here that really REALLY dislike overwatch? Shit is boring and casual as fuck
battleborn is not better tho
>>338205873
Its the new meme, so yeah you are the only one. It's going to be big and there is pretty much nothing you can do about it
>>338166182
That became a lot more entertaining once I read the filename.
>>338204536
I think it's the shit that makes it possible to queue with any number of people instead of the godawful system they had before
>>338198278
Hey, it's the Goatse edit I requested!
>>338205873
We real gamers don't stoop down to play casual shit, am I right friend?
>>338166467
He's not saying they're a good developer, he's saying their an experienced cunning developer. If you can't distinguish the two then you are retarded
>>338182180
>tfw didnt win once
I bought so many tacos
>>338209314
aw shit is the promotion over? I was gonna stop by tomorrow after work. I mean im gonna go anyway cuz tacos but still.
>>338209664
Yep, I'm pretty sure it only lasted till the end of the beta.
I found out when I got my order and realized my large soda didn't have a qt tracer on it
my heart sunk
>>338198278
Looks like the Lexus grill.
>>338209792
whoops meant for >>338209710
>>338162495
>selling a FPS moba for 60 dollars
>adding a 40 dollar season pass to get additional content after it launches
>thinking this was going to be a good idea
they really should have saw that coming.
>battleborn
>overwatch
>paladins
>paragon
Who will win the moba/fps/tps hybrid crown?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlVbYrDkRZA
>>338210013
not paladin.
looks awful and plays awful.
literally copying everything from other games
and pacing problems.
>>338210013
>Battleborn DOA, overpriced, already has season pass
>Paladins doesn't know what it is, devs will inevitably abandon it like with ALL of their other games
>Paragon is a literal what
OW by default, you don't even need to take gameplay into account.
>>338171793
That's Mr Freeze's origin story...
>>338162495
In the UK it dropped to £29.99 today
>>338169598
>being so virgin you look for your girls in video games
I played the beta and fucking hated everything about it.
The hideous art style
Obnoxious and intrusive UI
Irritating humour
Shit MOBA gameplay
>>338210013
>paladins is just hi-rez's attempt to stay relevant via a cashgrab, battleborne is pretty dead, they should just stick to smite.
>overwatch is gonna be the biggest once since theres so much hype behind it
>paragon is probably dead, this is literally the first time i've actually heard of it in weeks
I dont really know much about battleborne but the whole thing really looks uninteresting, the gameplay, the artstyle is really weird, I dunno, it just doesnt mesh together well for me
>>338210604
normie get out
>>338210707
>literally the first time i've actually heard of it in weeks
The beta isn't even out yet. It'll have a free open beta weekend may 26-30
>>338209710
>>338209867
The taco bell next to my work still has it going on.i havent won
>>338210814
sure thing. ill just be over here fucking my gf
fag
Why do cucks keep falling for Blizzard's bullshit?
>>338210013
battleborn never had a chance, literally dead on arrival
overwatch wins hands down
nobody knows what paladin or paragon is, and they sound both bland and generic
>>338180820
holy fuck that was awful
>>338211217
blizzard isn't the reason for gearbox's fuck up
gearbox fucked up because fucking up is what gearbox does.
>>338210013
paladins and battleborn are hopeless
paragon is a 3rd person moba, literally smite 2 with nothing in common with ow. Different demographic and f2p it may succeed
gigantic is a mistery, is the most hybrid of the bunch without being shitty like bb and the recent end of win10 exclusivity brings hope, it will probably get its niche
As much as people shit on Overwatch I just cannot go back to TF2 at all now. The game feels slow as molasses and is really starting to show it's age (Quake mechanics made 20 fucking years ago).
>>338211786
isn't paladins f2p though?
>>338165217
Im Anthony Burch
>>338210013
>paladins
dont even act like it has a chance. shit probably won't even come out after what happened to stillborn
lol at this shit
>>338211895
>implying quake isn't way more faster and skill based than that pile of overmarketed shit
>>338212467
>quake shills still exist
>>338212457
>$170
you can buy a high end pc with that much moeny
>>338212656
u wot
you cant even buy half a high end graphics card with that
>>338212656
Bullshit
Lack of marketing.
>>338212751
>>338212846
>What is bartering
>What is refurbished
>What is deflation
>>338165546
>Great stoner game to play with more casual friends.
Why do you faggots insist on saying some derivative of this stupid shit? The majority of anything is fun if you're retarded and in the company of your friends.
>>338213020
>Not $170
>Not high end.