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>>338146791
Looks pretty good senpai
Dwarf master race
Low tech need not apply
>>338146980
>manlet race
>so short they can't ride horses
they are so short they can't even ride ponies lol
>>338146791
>I AM KING HERE
>>338146791
>Not calling it Total Warhammer
>MUH BRAND
>>338147912
its a dumb fucking name.
>>338147349
Who needs horses when you have helicopters?
![good-luck-im-behind-7000-skeletons[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xNJ8qXS.jpg "good-luck-im-behind-7000-skeletons[3]")
>>338146791
>>338148537
Who needs helicopters when you have pegasus?
9/10 from Gamespot.
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/total-war-warhammer-review/1900-6416434/
>>338148945
The plural is pegasi.
![Total-War-Warhammer-Varghulf_w_600[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4PGj7X3.png "Total-War-Warhammer-Varghulf w 600[1]")
>you're defending your keep when this bat comes up and slaps your northern gate
wat do?
>>338149148
get hype
>>338149148
Shem's burning gaze.
ITS OGRE CA IS FINISHED
BASED BLIZZARD WINS AGAIN
>>338149148
Pray 2 the lady and charge
Not bad.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-warhammer/critic-reviews
>>338149148
Send in the paladin.
Who /WAAAAGH!/ here?
>tfw empire
>>338146791
What are the unit size caps like in this game? Roughly how many troops does a maximum size battle field?
>>338150045
Probably even less than Atilla until mods fixed it.
To be fair, the game is most likely going to run like shit on launch anyway and you have to set the unit sizes to minimum. Their recommended specs are ridiculously high to play the game on medium on 35 fps.
>>338150045
They said they always play with unit size set on "large" in their videos. Ultra is the highest.
>>338150045
just wait for the mods to come out you faggot.
>>338150150
All I've ever wanted from TW games are massive armies where the engine itself didn't start to buckle when I go in and edit unit sizes myself. 3000 vs 3000 troops is literally nothing in almost all eras of people fighting people, I'm not saying I want ancient Scythian armies of 50 thousand men but ffs I want at least 10.
>>338149871
No Gorbad no orkin'
So vampire cunts have no ranged units and their morale system means that if the general dies the entire army disintegrates into dust, I'm seeing a lot of potential for airborne shenanigans of zerging the general.
>>338150396
Medieval with the Warhammer mod is probably your best bet. I'm going to suspect that it's probably even better than Total Warhammer. The only issue with the mod is that the regular total war AI cheats like crazy to make the game unfun.
Seriously though, how does a russian basement dweller in 2 months make a shitload of units for all races and with total warhammer you're getting like 12 units per race.
>>338150852
Slav magic. Plus, he doesn't need a team of artists to create the greenskins, he just mocaps Sergei.
>>338150787
vamps have plenty of cheap air units to counter other air units, and from people who've played the game it doesn't sound like hero nuking is a problem they're coming across
>>338150938
>>338150852
they literally reskinned the models.
>>338149453
does it use cuckenvo? I really want to pirate this.
>>338150852
>muh medieval total war warhammer mod is better than WTW totally guise
come on, the Warhammer mod was barebones as fuck and not very compelling. This game on the other hand looks fucking great and genuinely looks like CA put effort in for the first time in forever
>>338151425
Even if it does, it's going to be popular enough that it will get a crack pretty soon.
>>338151561
That's what they said about Doom
>>338150852
Oh don't worry you'll be able to purchase new units for a low cost of 2.99, I'm guessing this will have at least 5-10 DLC.
>>338151664
I don't even care if they sell 30 units each for 2.99 as DLC, at least that's an option. But they always end up making 4 core units that are slightly reskinned everytime with improved gear, it's fucking dumb.
>>338151639
Doom is shit, though. Nobody cares about it.
60 euros is asking for too much specially when it comes out the same day as overwatch. I hope I can play it next month.
>>338152025
why not buy it for 48 euros off of GMG then?
>>338151639
The problem is that the people who were hyped for DOOM would buy it anyway and the people who were mildly interested in it but haven't decided yet (like me) and are turned off by the initial price tag would've pirated it to see how it runs and if it's any fun, then buy it later. If you can't pirate it or don't have a demo, I'm totally uninterested in the final product. This is especially important with Total Warhammer, CA is notorious for making games that are sheer unplayable on any decent machines on release and this is just putting me off enough that I might never buy or play it, unless it drops into a range of like $30 on a sale.
>>338152065
shit I forgot about it. will that discount apply for the next month too?
>>338152171
I have never in my life seen GMG not have at least a 20% global discount voucher valid at any given time. At this point I just assume they always sell at 20% cheaper than Steam.
Have we figured out how many patches it will need before its fixed from the inevitable bugs that come with TW games
what are hoping for the new game anons? I'm really hope they optimize this game. The streams looked great, it was the first time I've seen 60fps huge total war battles. They also said dx12 would be later patched on
https://youtu.be/G0z5cmzZqB8
>>338148945
Good luck replacing a broken limb.
Here's a 27% voucher from gmg
>>338152474
>I'm really hope they optimize this game
It isn't. To play warhammer on high with at least 60 fps at some (not considering frame drops) in a 1 vs 1 (1 unit consisting of 20 soldiers), you the following;
Operating System: Windows 7/8.1/10 64Bit
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz
RAM: 8 GB
Hard Drive: 35 GB
Video Card: (DirectX 11) AMD Fury X or Nvidia GTX 980 @1080P
This shit is unoptimized like usual.
>>338152474
Reviews look good but this is what I'm most worried about. Has anyone seen any benchmarks on this yet?
>>338152725
Alas i5-2500k, you served me well throughout the years.
>>338148332
It's what everyone will call it anyway.
>>338150787
Keep in mind that vamps are ridiculously powerful in their own right. Their whole concept is a bunch of useless chaff zombies and skellies holding the front, while the elite units (like vampires, terrorgeists, etc.) curbstomp the key enemy units. I absolutely agree that there will be effective ways to "assassinate" vampires, but it's not gonna be that easy.
Check out this video, where the bats + death magic totally murder the enemy's elite pegasi strike force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2TZfCCX0wI
>>338152725
Well fuck
Guess I'm not getting it then.
At least until the 1080 is released
>>338152771
Everytime they talk about optimization they always highlight the fact that the one CPU thread did all the work and this time it's more spread out and the engine will utilize the game more.
have high hopes anon. The gameplay footage they have been showing especially the live streams were 60fps
>>338152725
>This shit is unoptimized like usual.
Go read the dev post on steam forums about their progress on the engine.
>>338153306
I don't even understand how developers have regressed so much in threading and multi core usage. When the first commercial dual core came out developers were all over that shit and nearly perfected it. Then some time Quad Cores came out and everyone was like 'meh' and didn't innovate on their own anymore. Now games are programmed for single cores with absolutely no threading on their own aside from seperating graphic calls with internal calls, they just keep using the AMD/Intel utility that does a half assed job of splitting the process in multiple parts.
>>338153468
To be fair, the raw graphics themselves look worse than what we had in Shogun 2 and Rome 2 in terms of textures and unit variety. I swear the human soldier models look less detailed and there's less variation in outfits and such.
>>338153468
See that mountain? You can climb it.
Trust me, I'm Todd Howard and I post on the steam forums, believe in me.
>>338146791
>buying DLC selling platform
Good goyim :)
>>338150396
I got that many on S2 but there wasn't enough room for everyone to do anything but charge.
>>338152725
Source please.
>>338153906
Source: Official website
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Specs
>>338153974
And its a pirate for me then.
>>338154197
goodluck with that buddy
>>338154307
Does it have Denuvo?>>338154307
>>338154369
No. He's a retard.
I paid for Rome 2. I'm not paying for another CA abomination til I know it actually works.
Graphics look shit for those requirements.
>>338146791
>Bretonnia is going to be DLC paid faction
I love this meme
>>338154369
Yes it uses denuvo.
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Denuvo:_Questions_and_Answers
>>338152474
Elves!
I'm angry about there being no elves.
/spoiler To kill
>>338154567
>he's fallen for the denuvo isn't crackable meme
Enjoy paying for it slave
>>338146791
>Undead
>Breaking from combat
Aren't they meant to be immune to psychology?
>>338154654
Yeah whatever NEET
>>338154660
Ghouls run away but skellies and zombies fight until the crumble.
>>338148332
>Total War Warhammer is somehow better
>>338152725
I have all that, just 32GB of ram :D
>>338150396
Pretty sure on Ultra the goblin spearmen and shitty units like zombies/skeletons cap out around 200 unit models whereas things like Grail knights or Elite Chaos soldiers cap around 100.
>>338154737
>People actually support companies not giving out demos and expecting you to buy their unoptimised trash.
Truly we are in a golden age of consumer retardation
>>338154660
They don't have morale.
They have some other bullshit if they're losing they lose faith in their leaders and leave.
Aka the exact same thing with a different name
>>338154652
I'm positive we'll get wood elves and Bretonnia as playable factions next DLC batch. It just makes sense.
I think wood elves will be good too, since we have all these melee-centric factions, aside from empire and dwarves. Wood elves are super-shooty.
>>338154660
They don't flee, they "crumble" when they are cut off. I suppose it's cut off from magical source from the necromancers/vamp lords. I'm talking out of my ass here.
>>338151425
Denuvo is yes.
t. my 4 hours
preorder now for your day 1 chaos faction DLC, goyims!
>>338154948
>>338154980
>>338154660
Watch the video. They didn't break, the player moved them back as they'd taken too much damage from the intiial run to the gates.
He then healed them with a hero.
>>338154928
and you are enlightened my friend
>>338154948
But that's wrong.
Undead units crumble, if their leaders lose concentration.
With those guys, I think the player just moved them out of combat.
>>338154948
They have crumble, aka if they drop the unit dies
>>338155218
So what you're saying is they have a system thats the exact same as morale with a different name?
Thanks retard
>>338152725
>their stream runs at 60fps
>1080p, all High settings
>they only use a fucking 780Ti
ok lad, fuck off thanks
>>338155103
>WHY DONT YOU ENJOY EATING SHIT
>>338155079
We don't really know how the crumble mechanics work yet since the game isn't out but I suppose when a unit "crumbles" it starts to lose units periodically by it's own.
>>338152725
>people actually go to /v/ and listen to retards instead of just looking at the games steam page
Why?
>>338155076
You get that if you buy it week 1.
No need to pre-order.
>>338155285
Are you retarded?
Crumbling means they fall apart and die. Which happens if they move too far away from their leader or if their leader dies.
That's pretty fucking different from morale.
>>338155318
See
>>338153974
They're not using a 780Ti at all. If you watch console games being played at E3, do you honestly also believe they run on consoles to demo them? It's called marketing
>>338155285
Not the same guy, but holy shit fuck off spastic.
Morale can be lost regardless of leader action.
However; Undead legions are dependent on their leaders to keep them functioning, otherwise they'll slow and eventually crumble to dust.
So their heroes are far more important and need to be kept safe as they keep the army alive.
Not just "Morale".
>>338154530
Bretonnia is already in the game. They just don't have a campaign. You can play them in multiplayer battles.
>>338155484
>instead of not attacking what they do is they stop attacking
Wow sounds so different
>>338155480
>Official website isn't a credible source
>>338155534
>WOW RETARD ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY NEED THEIR LEADER
Yeah just like how morale breaks a lot quicker once your general goes down?
This system sounds so different
>>338155558
>>338155651
>Hurr I was just pretending.
>>338154928
You can refund it. I refund one game q month at least.
>>338155651
Except not all morale breaks.
And crumbling means they begin to literally physically crumble. Not go out of your control. Your entire army starts to die if you misplay your hero.
Fuck off spastic.
>>338155734
Nice meme greentext you fucking autist
Don't bother responding if you don't have anything better to say or better yet kill yourself.
>>338155778
>LOOK THEY DON'T GO OUT OF YOUR CONTROL THEY GO OUT OF YOUR CONTROL IF YOU MISPLAY YOUR HERO
So its pretty much the exact same as mis-positioning your general and having him get caught and makes your morale drop?
>>338155778
Sounds like VC are going to be hard as shit to play, I always like to keep my general out of harms way.
What benefits do VC get?
>>338155898
>>338155809
It's not the same, no matter how desperate you are to make it sound the same, a routing unit flees, a crumbling unit keeps fighting and takes extra damage.
>>338155778
He's either stupid and stubborn or baiting, either way, it's not worth responding to him.
>>338155898
Nope.
It appears you are literally autistic however.
>LOSE CONTROL OF UNITS, THEY CAN COME BACK.
That is morale.
>Hero injured or dies, skeletal units crumble and DIE.
That is crumble.
I hope that concise explanation prevents your autism from flaring.
>>338155990
>I always like to keep my general out of harms way.
Well in this your general is more often than not a grade-A badass who should be in the thick of combat.
>>338154530
they said it will not be a paid dlc, which means that it has to be an FLC
>>338155494
According to youtubers it runs better than Attila.
>>338155990
>What benefits do VC get?
Well, as long as your (hard as balls) leader doesn't die, they won't run away, ever.
They also have magical superiority, easily replenishable units, and some fuckoff powerful monsters.
>>338155991
It is the same mechanic but it is a fallacy. My boyfriend generalizes games like this as well.
"You point and shoot, that's soooo boring and everyone does it." Is what he would say about any FPS and he does this with every other kind of game I want him to play.
>>338155991
>routing units don't take extra damage
Dohohohoho
Its the same fucking thing you retard. They just gave it a new name because it doesn't make sense for undead to run
>>338156308
>They just gave it a new name because it doesn't make sense for undead to run
Thank you for confirming it's not the same, glad you could admit you're wrong
>>338156162
I don't need a youtuber - who has gotten a pr release of the game earlier than everybody else and thus it becomes sponsored content - to tell me how the game runs. The official data is on the official website and until the game has been released for the regular consumer I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
>>338156256
Yeah my wife's son does the same thing.
>>338155990
Their units can regenerate a ton, their heroes can heal their units well, and they can summon zombies on the battlefield.
So you can mob archers by summoning hordes behind them and such.
They're a control-based faction.
>>338156256
>my boyfriend
Nice blog faggot
fuck off to /soc/
>>338156402
Yogscast literally showed the setting screen with the 780ti with everything on ultra while playing.
>>338156503
I can tell you're just as immature as he is
>>338156503
Nice ad hom retard.
>>338156383
>its different because they changed the name
Oh I am laffin
If I took a big shit on a plate and told you it was brown yum drops would you think it was any different to shit?
>>338156575
>complaining about immaturity on a anonymous image board about video games
Kill yourself my man
>>338156618
man, are you retarded? if your units routs of the map, you can still have it after the battle, if your unit crumbles its FUCKING GONE
>>338156618
>If I took a big shit on a plate and told you it was brown yum drops would you think it was any different to shit?
This is irrelevant
>a routing unit flees, a crumbling unit keeps fighting and takes extra damage.
This is relevant and factually correct
>>338156256
>boyfriend
Get out of here homofaggot.
>>338156518
>Trust the people that do a paid promotion on behalf of CA
Or you know, stop being a sheep and buying into concepts that other people talk about. Just wait till it's out.
>>338156687
>arguing that an imageboard serves the purpose of being immature
top kek, are you a repressed 12 year old or some shit? Try going outside
http://www.strawpoll.me/10253594
>>338156695
Yeah you're right retard
Routing isn't the same as crumbling. A unit that is breaking is equivalent to a unit that is crumbling.
A unit that has routed is the same as a unit that has crumbled
>>338156806
>top kek are u fkn 12 kid??
Same
BENCHMARKS WHEN?
>>338156847
>Routing isn't the same as crumbling.
This is correct
>A unit that has routed is the same as a unit that has crumbled
This is incorrect
>>338156815
>No Chaos Dwarfs
>>338156953
Well technically the effects of being crumbled is added on top of routed, so he's right with that regard. It's just a different state anyway and he's generalizing too much because the morale system is huge part of Total War. It's not innovative or realistic, though.
>>338157165
No he's not right about anything, a unit routing is not fighting, it's fleeing, a unit crumbling is fighting and is just taking extra damage
A unit that has shattered will flee, still not fight, and survive the battle, a unit that has crumbled has fought to the death and doesn't exist anymore.
They are different but it's funny watching him trying to worm his way around it
>>338157347
>he thinks within the game the mechanics are going to be any different
Try worm your way around looking like a complete retard when you actually play the game and see that the two things are one in the same.
>>338156952
Did we read a different post? He's stating that crumbling adds an extra damage taken effect on units, which to be fair isn't mechanically very innovative. Routed units have the same debuff, therefore he justifies that they are considered crumbled anyway because they share the same debuff mechanically.
It's kind of like if you have 20 turds with different kinds of seethrough icing on top of it, they're looking a little different but at the core they convey the same thing.
So what factions will you be able to play as?
Is there just the Empire faction for humans or can you play as Kislev, Bretonnia and so on?
>>338157347
>mfw people think there's a difference between cavalry and infantry.
Pfft, they're literally the same thing with different names.
>>338155484
>day 1 dlc is ok
disgustedreactionface.jpg
>>338157637
>Mfw people think there's a difference between naval and land units
wtf? They both have the same stats?
>>338157630
Bretonnia is custom battles only, with a limited roster. They'll be implemented as FLC later with a full roster, though.
Kislev is just an Empire reskin.
>>338157637
B-but one of them moves faster than the other so they're totally different!
Skeletons falling apart when the guy summoning them dies, pfft, where's my innovation at?
>>338156815
>Skaven
>Tomb kings
BEASTMENT LADS
Beastmen are much more important to this region
So are Tomb Kings basically fantasy Necrons?
>>338158429
Yes.
With an ancient Egyptian spice
>>338158567
So literally Necrons then?
>>338149081
That's debatable actually, Pegasuses is equally correct. It's an Octopi, Octopuses thing.
>>338152725
>>338153974
>crying that you need top tier hardware to play it on max settings with 60fps
I sure hope people are shitposting and not just being retarded
>>338158613
Yeah, necrons are the 40k version of tomb kangz
>>338158613
Yeah? I mean its warhammer
All the shit is the exact same except fantasy instead of sci fi
>>338148332
this
>>338154813
now GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKIN BITTY POOBOY!!!!!!!
*kicks you*
*punches you*
*bites your scalp as you run away*
*bites through scalp*
tastes like pussy
>>338146980
Miners with blast charge is pretty powerful.
>>338149148
HAMMERTIME
>>338157630
Is there a list of what units the Norse/Chaos will have available to them?
>>338150150
>Their recommended specs are ridiculously high to play the game on medium on 35 fps.
>But for Warhammers recommended requirements at 1080p res, with 45-55 Frame rate across the campaign map, while fighting with 20v20 unit in battle mode, then you will need 2GB VRAM and an AMD R9 270X or an Nvidia GTX760. The processor needed for TW:Warhammer recommended specs is an i5-4570 coupled with 8GB system memory.
That doesn't sound to bad
>>338158973
Yes, it's on the steam page
>>338150852
>how does a russian basement dweller in 2 months make a shitload of units for all races and with total warhammer you're getting like 12 units per race.
Because the Russian basement dweller didn't have to create everything from scratch or keep deadlines
>>338152725
How did this poor as fuck bait get anyone? They literally have several blog posts about system requirements, optimization improvements and we've seen several streamers and youtubers play the game on 60fps with much worse hardware.
It's like retards WANT to believe the game is bad.
Are the tomb kangz interesting?
My heart is full of grudges so there is only one faction for me.
>>338159056
Looks pretty decent to me. I might have to give this game a shot sometime. Last time I played a Total War game was..
Shogun 1. Holy fuck.
>total war warhammer
>warhammer
who cares
how do people have access already?
>>338159472
everyone but you apparently
>>338159508
They sent review copies so people can stream and make youtube videos of it and reviews can get out before launch.
It's basically their way of saying we are confident in this game
Preload when?
>>338159631
>It's basically their way of saying we are confident in this game
Are you retarded or something? There's a reason why major pre-releases have embargos and NDA's attached to it. How fucking old are you that you don't know basic business
>>338159867
>Are you retarded or something?
I don't know, are you?
>>338159867
You might be mate
>>338152725
https://youtu.be/WAu7945zfPc
>>338159049
That's because he's talking from his ass. Reviewers are sweet-talking the performance, and there are already videos up comparing performance with each graphical setting.
A 970 is enough to run at 60 fps on High during battles, apparently.
Hello?
>>338161392
hello
>>338161442:)
>>338154879
>:D
Kill yourself
>tfw when the tweest would have been truly ebin if that colossal fuck up Darren didnt spoil it early on
>>338160383
Jesus, he was getting 30fps with a 980 TI and i7?
welp
I thought my 970 would at least last me 2 years
>>338162538
that's why you don't play on ultra
>>338162538
Don't worry he was probably using MSAA
ps don't use MSAA with total war games
>>338162524
What's the twist?
>>338162780Advisor is a greater daemon of tzeentch
>>338162524
Where did he spoil it? In a stream?
>>338162989
thats cool as shit desu does suck that i know now though but i'm probly not getting it til a price drop anyway
>>338151513
>I never played it
Just kill yourself already.
Slav-games > Western games
>>338162989
They probably do a shit load of foreshadowing anyway so it becomes obvious a quarter of the way through.
Also this is almost always the 'twist' in warhammer games.
>turns out the guy who we thought was our leader was the demons after all
>when will we ever learn
>>338163334
t. ivanovanovitch blentzenski
>>338162780
watch this trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI
than take a look at the warhammer advisors appearancethe advisor is chaos daemon
>>338163427
yeah, but its cool that they actually have an excuse now for the advisor being the same for all factions
>>338152725
that's literally my build, except I have 16 RAM and not 8. its still gonna run like total trash
how the flying fuck is a top of the line build required for 60fps 1080p gaming
in fact its not even top of the line, like, what the hell do you need for 4k? 10 titans?
>>338164705
Total war is not your typical game, no other game moves thousands of soldiers in open maps that can involve dense forests or cities all rendering at the same time so you have to apply a different metric when comparing it to other games
>>338162538
>new TW games
>running properly on any card
>>338158695
Octopodes. Octopi implies the wrong root language, and isn't correct.
>>338165363
Are you implying that we call Pegasi Pegapodes?
So you can only play as Chaos if you preordered? guess i'll wait for goty version
>>338165808
can you pls learn to read things before posting
>>338165808
No, you can play as all 5 factions if you preordered.
>>338158695
Octipi/octopussi*
>>338166470
>octopussi
lewd desu
>>338149905
Reiksgard knight has 3 hats???
>>338157002
They man the Chaos artillery
>>338162989
How is this going to work if you play as Archaon and the Chaos Warriors? Will the demon become a unit for you to use?
>>338167693
chaos infighting i guess
>>338152725
Dude fuck off people are streaming it on ultra 1080p with 60fps.
>>338167693
Warriors of Chaos are not Daemons of chaos, they are separate factions
>>338167939
I'm not that good on the lore but isn't Archaos supposed to be chosen by all the Chaos Gods to end the world? Why would they send daemons against him?
>>338158613
No you see
Newcrons are the Tomb Kings clone not the opposite
>>338168102
>Why would they send daemons against him?
ITS JUST A PRANK BRO
t.Tzeentch
>>338168102
Chaos gods send Big ass demons to fight against him all the time
GODDAMN I JUST WANT MY PC TO RUN IT DECENTLY
>>338167105
They're called plumes, peasant.
>>338168102
It's Chaos, it doesn't have to make sense. That's sort of the point.
>>338168298
Look at this:
>>338160383
Looks like it runs perfectly well, AS LONG as you're not retarded and go full-on supersampling and all the extra shit. (It's not like there's a big difference between ultra and high anyway.) That's makes the whole difference between 35 and 150 fps.
>>338168581
I know, my PC is just low range nowadays. This is the one game I have been hyped for all fucking year. If I can just run it semi decently at 1080 even if I have to turn everything down to low i'll do it.
>>338168102
IDK so he can prove that he's a bad enough dude to end the world.
Or it's Chaos they don't gotta explain shit.
>>338159867
>Are you retarded or something?
Pot meet kettle.
> There's a reason why major pre-releases have embargos and NDA's attached to it.
Yet strangely they've been surprisingly open about the game so far.
>How fucking old are you that you don't know basic business
Yeah most companies use NDA's for games when they're trying to cover up the game not being up to par.
How old are you?
>Hippogryphs can knock down giants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2fwLM7tp3U&t=16m45s
I WANT TO PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Yeha, it doesn't seem they try to hide it with 0 video available or videos that nitpick only the thing they want you to see.
>>338169816
There is at the very least 20 hours of gameplay you can look through
It looks promising. What do you chums think?
>>338170254
the Warcraft III of our time.
>>338170254
Of all the games i've been looking forward to in 2016, this is the only game i've actually been hyped over. Everything else is me waiting for it even if I really want it. This is the only one where i'm feeling actually excited for.
So my expectations are rather low ironically.
>>338157630
he's a big guy
>>338170254
it looks like attila is better desu, I'll still get it, since after 1k hours I am sick of attila atm
>>338170368
>>338170442
I see that R2TW didn't serve enough as a lesson.
Can I play this on a literal toaster that can only run Skyrim at low settings (and even then with low frame rate)?
>>338170597
>MUH ROME2!!!
fuck off
>>338170648
lol
>>338170442
Yeah everything else is shit, except XCOM 2
>>338170597
>Muh rome 2
Holy shitman. Bless this shitposting body.
I'm waiting on the game to release and a few days after to hear how well it runs. Did I say I have it preordered?
>>338171029
the funniest thing is the muh r2 ignore how broken empire and med2 are every time
>>338169325
I'm so happy to see Bretonnia being given some love for the first time in forever.
They really are an army that has never seen the love they deserved.
>>338171396
To bad they arent a fully unique faction.Bretonnia had a lot of neat shit. Too bad they got shelved along with Beastmen and SoB (The other french faction)
>>338171535
they'll add them later as flc
>>338171535
I'm pretty hyped for the free update that gives them a campaign to play. Stopping Archaon with Louen and Beaquis at the helm rather than Franz and Deathclaw seems like a pretty neat thing to try.
Also crusading the non-humans seems like fun too.
>>338171656
>Implying GW will ever let people play as Bretonnia again
They are dead man. Totally dead.
>>338171697
Its the best we can get, but I want to have militarized peasant archers and grail reliquaes
>>338146791
This just makes me want Medieval 3, fuck man.
This is such a fucking meme game. I am not hyped for it because I think Warhammer is stupid, but Ill play it IF they are capable of shipping it in a playable state for once
>>338171697
If I get to punk him with Grimgor by coming in out of left field and head butting his ass into the turf, I will be happy.
Hell, anything that lets me be the annoying, Heelish third party that ruins everybody elses plans as the Orcs in that particular situation (Chaos Invasion) or any other, makes me happy.
It would be better in a campaign, but that is obviously probably impractical, however fun it would be. (It was fun actually submitting results in the campaign GW did and totally hosing Chaos by actively seeking out THEM to mess with just to spite them and GW. I mean, they were clearly the toughest guys in town, right? Why pick on the Empire when the "Spiky Gits" were clearly tougher, and more worthy of constantly fighting?)
>>338171942
It looks like it will be a decent release. There will be balancing issues though.
any reviewer to actually trust about a Total War?
>>338168710
That's about the same specs as me. Should work just fine if you just go turn it down to medium or low, depending the size of the battles/how high FPS you need.
>>338172238
Watch the livestreams they've done. We're talking 12 total hours of campaign play with every faction.
>>338172248
I just want above 30 FPS. 60 FPS is the ideal but I am not expecting that at all. I just want non choppy battles.
>tfw pirates will never ever to play this masterpiece
>>338171935
fuck no, I want empire2, or age of discovery, or bronze age, med period is overdone
>>338172676
>med period is overdone
like ur mom lmao
>>338172494
Yeah, it's not exactly an action game, is it. As long as the turn times aren't monstrously long, I couldn't care less about the graphics. I just want to play undead and show chaos how it's done.
where is it lore-wise, age of sigmar?
>>338172769
The turn times seem to be by far the fastest in the series, 5-10 seconds
>>338172740
You must be 18 to post here kiddo.
>>338172676
Sorry you feel that way m8, but everyone likes the medieval setting. Your gunpowder games are niche and boring. Medieval is perfect because you have SOME gunpowder, but they don't dominate so every faction ends up the same. Roman period is also good, but we just had both Attila and Rome 2, so fuck a rethread of that. It's been ages since MTW2. It's fucking time.
Of course, Warhammer looks great as well, I'm glad they're branching out, True faction variety is a good thing for gameplay. Shogun 2 was at times great, but the problem is again that everything's just the same fucking samurai units. Asymmetrical factions is where it's at.
>>338172769
Yeah. I'm just really hoping my 2400 and 760 can handle it on low. I am finally getting a fantasy total war and its a dream game of mine.
>>338172951
In the trash.
>>338172953
Sounds great. While I appreciated all the tiny little tribe factions in Rome 2, it seemed to cause RIDICULOUSLY long turn times. I suppose with the more tightly-knit factions of Warhammer, that has been fixed.
>>338172951
>age of sigmar
Thankfully not.
This takes place at some unspecified point in time before the End Times. You know, just your average chaos incursion.
>>338172953
>watch the streams
>"oh boy I can't wait for 90 second turn times"
>they're lightning fast
>entering and exiting battles is just as fast
I couldn't even get that speed with a SSD.
>>338173379
> I suppose with the more tightly-knit factions of Warhammer, that has been fixed.
They said it's a side effect of turning the engine in 64bit
>>338173328
Install Rome 2 and see if you can play it. If you can, you can play Warhammer.
I have no clue about warhammer. When I play Chaos and win, means that the end of the world?
>>338173583
The end of the beginning.
preordered
>>338173379
>This takes place at some unspecified point in time before the End Times.
It's a pime taradox anyway, there's characters who existed at different points in time interacting.
Patienly awaiting to breach and butcher, sire.
kinguin boys
40 bucks
guys can i run on max??
>>338173759
This is probably going to be the last WHFB game, so it's nothing but a platform to cram in everything from the setting so the tabletop fans that have lost a chance to buy miniatures have something to fall back to.
They said it's a decade long development cycle for them, so expect lots of updates and DLC along the standalone games
>>338173736
The beginning... of the Age of Sigmar! :^)
>>338174001
I'm fine with that. The Warhammer franchise was always better in videogames than on tabletop.
Games Workshop can go eat a dick though. Fucking retards.
>he won't play exclusively Bretonnia in MP.
>>338174001
>probably going to be the last WHFB game
If it's successful, don't count on it. Just because the board game is discontinued doesn't mean the IP can't flourish in vidya. I mean, look at Vermintide. It's not like CA is gonna hog the licence, preventing any other games to be made. I'm just glad they had the brains not to push AoS into vidya format, probably because they realized it would be a disaster.
>it's nothing but a platform to cram in everything from the setting so the tabletop fans that have lost a chance to buy miniatures have something to fall back to
That's a bit delusional. It's a game that tries to attract the board game fans, Total War fans, AND people who just enjoy the setting without ever having touched the minis.
>expect lots of updates and DLC along the standalone games
This is a good thing. It will take a long while to fully flesh out a universe as expansive and varied as Warhammer.
>>338174401
Nah nigga, it's all about dem vampire cunts
>tfw female vampire commanders are FUCKING CONFIRMED
>>338156815
where my ogre bros @?
>>338175089
>female vampire commanders
>>338175089
The vampire starting cinematic features one for all your waifu needs.
https://youtu.be/FOIzzxq_08g?t=322
>>338174401
Bretonnia seems kind of weak honestly.
>"LOL CAVALRY!"
>get tons of anti-cav units
>Brets can do anything but send some peasants armed with crossbows to make up for the shoddy everything-not-cavalry
>>338175375
>crossbows
I fucking wish.
>Use peasants to pin down the spear units
>weaken them with hyper-accurate trebuchets
>Send in the Grail Knights.
>Damsel magic is optional.
Even spears won't handle that.
Day 1 pirate. No Denuvo, I hope?
>>338175285
>>338175240
FUCK YEAH, WAIFU CONFIRMED
I bet every other faction is gonna be complete sausagefests until they add elves. Would be cool with some crazy half-naked FUCKHUGE amazon chaos bitches though.
>>338173564
Not gonna be able to buy a game to test another, I'll just wait for release and see.
>>338175710
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Denuvo:_Questions_and_Answers
>>338150787
That sounds like the ending plot for a ton of fantasy books.
I like it.
Who CHAOS here?
>>338175587
>Use peasants to pin down the spear units
in one of the streams a guy tried doing just that - his peasants routed in seconds before the cav lines up for a charge, brets need to treat their peasants better if they want a good anvil
>>338175587
>peasants instantly rout because of spooky skeletons
>trebuchets get gnawed away by surprise giant bats
>grail knights charge headlong into a wall of skeleton spears
>Damsel gets eaten by a terrorgheist
And then the vampires themselves just kinda stroll in, fire off some death rays and eat anyone who's left.
It's a shame VC don't seem to have Blood Dragons though, would have been cool to have top-tier fights between them and grail knights. Those are to my knowledge the two toughest cavalry units on tabletop.
>>338149905
It really makes no sense how Bretonnia is meant to stand a chance against the Empire.
It's pretty much a 100 years war-era army vs a 30 years war-era army.
>>338176272
Seems like VC are going to be getting the Blood Dragons later as a free update. Their roster on the wiki mentions a free additional unit, and the free update roadmap list a new unit for the Vampires as one of the very first.
So get hyped.
>>338172676
>>338173076
Warhammers fantasy tech level is early modern europe, which is between late game medieval 3 and early game empire, so you get the best of both worlds (but with shittier rifles and a fuckton of pikes)
I just want an Estalian / Tilean mod so that I can rekt the germcuck empire with muh tercios
>>338175729
Fuck you
Chaos got the beautiful Sigvald, that's all the femininity they need.Although I really want Valkia as a legendary lord, hope she gets added down the pipe
>>338176124
and to think such a very well made tattoo would be such a bad life choice
admittedly i'm interested in this more then previous TW because the factions all look actually different. i was amazed how people enjoyed early Shogun 2 with 1 faction repainted a a unit or two spread among them
>>338176298
Yeah, but they have anglo-based weirdo-magic via the lady of the lake. Grail Knights are pretty much SPESS MEHREENS, just downsized.
>>338176502
I am super-hyped about that. I was initially a bit perturbed by the fact that the VAMPIRE counts had very few actual VAMPIRES, and while Heinrich is cool, he's still just a fucking necromancer. But seeing as they have plenty of vampire commanders now, and with the later addition of Blood Dragons, it's gonna be just fine.
>>338176602
>Warhammers fantasy tech level
Mate, it's all over the place depending on faction. Sure, the Empire has pike and shot, but lizardmen fight like god damn aztecs with dinosaurs, and orcs are more like cavemen, while the brets are are ca. late 1300s.
>Estalian / Tilean mod
They will be in the game, but they'll probably be very generic. It's not easy to create a whole faction from scratch, seeing as they have no codex.
>>338149148
call the WITCHUNTER
>>338176687
>Sigvald
Oh man, isn't that the faggot who went to war with the High Elves because he was jealous of their hair?
>Valkia
Demons of Chaos will be a faction later on so I imagine she'll be part of Khorne's retinue.
>no reload animation for musket units
>>338176687
Ah yes, I'm definitely gonna play as chaos once to get my FABULOUS on with Sigvald. But I don't really understand why they go like "yeah, you can be this dude who's kinda cool with Slaanesh, or you can be ARCHAON, the Mary Sue of WHFB, everchosen of Chaos and basically king of the entire world. Pick your fancy!"
>>338176298
As long as they act honorably, Brettonnian knights gets a blessing from their goddess that literally stops cannon balls. Grail Knights become superhuman.
I pre-ordered a physical game because it's 38 Euros while the Steamjew asks for 60 Euros
But the game launches on Steam on the 24th, while my game will arrive on the 26th.
But I could only play on the weekend anyway
>>338177285
Muskets would suck if they had to go through the whole motion though. And it'd look very silly if they just sped it up to compensate.
Wait, THEY DON'T? That's weird
>>338177285
>warhammer
>musket
you need to take a break
>>338158429
They're much worse Vampire Counts. Nagash is cool but everything else with them is shit.
>>338177491
Cool story bro
>>338177523
How are they worse? They're just a more pure version of undead without vamps, and a strong egyptian theme. What's not to like?
>>338177515
Musket, blunderbuss, arquebus, whatever. Shooty things.
>>338177171
Yup, and during the end times he was chilling in his pleasure palace while Archaon was out destroying the world, getting real fucking fed up with him and his antics so he just teleported him straight into the fray, of course making him turbo fucking mad in the process for interrupting his daily narcissistic routines.
He's a real card, I love him, and the fact that CA gave enough fucks about chaos diversity and added him instead of some khorne schmuck.
So by trilogy they mean 3 seperate games, taking place in different eras or locations. So no elves vs orcs/counts?
>>338178254
They are adding to the map with each expansion. Why else would they market this move with the whole "We are making the biggest Total War campaign map ever!!!" stuff?
>>338178163
Wasn't Sigvald killed in the end times?
Also, have you read the stories about Valkia? I'm looking for the "Reaper" one, but can't find it anywhere to download.
>>338178702
He gets his head bashed in by an ugly troll
The troll later pisses on his corpse
I've said this before and I'll say it again. wh40k>fantasy battle.
>>338177024
most human factions are all late renaissance m8, arguably including Kislev, nipon and cathay, the only human faction that is beneath that level is Bretonnia.
Lizardmen being aztecs kinda makes sense, as aztecs were contemporary to the early middle ages.
Also I agree, we don't have proper estalian / tilean factions but they are basically late game Medieval II Italy and Spain, so I don't think it is that far fetched that some mediterranean modder would beef their unit rosters up
who else /dwarf/ here
>>338179057
that horse look comfy.
>>338179057
>contemporary to the early middle ages.
oops, meant the early modern ages
Also, we do have Pizarro and a bunch of Dogs of War troops that kinda give an idea of how the lesser factions armies are composed.
>>338179057
needs more pretty girls
>>338177523
I will fight you.
>>338179449
I don't know how I feel about your image
>>338178254
The plan is to make stand alone expansions/DLCs, kind of like the shogun ones where you get a new campaign map and factions, but in warhammer's case, a new part of the world with 4 new races/factions.
And the idea is that you will be able to combine these games into a big one, in turn adding on the campaign maps into one as well, essentially ending up with a pretty fucking hefty warhammer world campaign map to play with
for example:
>First game:
>Main factions: Empire, Dwarfs, Greenskins, Undead Counts and Chaos warriors
>Minor factions: Bretonnia, (Unannounced)
>Campaign map contains the "Europe" part of the warhammer world
>Second game:
>Main factions: High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizard men, Chaos Daemons
>Minor factions: Beastmen, etc.
>Campaign map contains Ulthuan, "North America" and "South America"
>Third game: Tomb Kings, Skaven, Ogres, Wood Elves
>Minor factions: Chaos Dwarfs, etc.
>Campaign map contains northern "Africa" and eastern "europe"
Any of these games can be played on their own without owning the first one, just like with shogun 2. But own more than one and they combine.
>>338179669
What's wrong with it?
>>338178702
>>338178163
>sigvald
what happens if he gets stabbed in the crotch? this is some male version of boobplate right there
can i run a pure gobbo army?
>>338173564
Nah dude Rome 2 runs great for me but Attila runs like absolute dog shit, therefore it seems likely Warhammer will run just as bad if not worse.
>>338176124
WITNESSED
>>338180103
they said that warhamm runs much better than attila because its actually x64, also both rome2 and warham look notably worse than attila AND warham has a lot more simple animations all of this should make the performance a lot better
another total war with impressive bullshots that actually looks like shit ingame and runs at 41 fps on quad sli 980ti
cant wait
>>338179449
Now I know how muslims feel when they see a image of muhammed.
>>338179057
>including Kislev, nipon and cathay
i.e. factions without official armies.
It's only Empire m8. Bretonnia is the only other REAL human faction, and it's all KNIGHTS KNIGHTS KNIGHTS
>>338179873
He gets a hissy fit.
>>338179873
It's Sigvald. He'd problably enjoy it. He's a viking version of Fabio.
>>338180368
I'm not sure I'm seeing any problems here..
>>338180368
horny because it's a goat?
>>338179743
>(Unannounced)
I'm 90% sure they'll be Wood Elves. They'll fit in with the Brets, and would provide a very shooty army to contrast the rather melee-heavy ones we have currently.
>>338180225
Well let's hope so, I'm not buying it anyway cause Attila was such shit.
>>338180394
Still human.
>>338177024
>It's not easy to create a whole faction from scratch, seeing as they have no codex.
The Russians behind RotDG managed to do that just fine.
>>338180623
>cause Attila was such shit.
whats it like to have such a shit taste?
>>338179873
>male version of boobplate right there
You know after seeing it on a guy. It's pretty damn ridiculous.
>>338180623
The setting isn't the best, but it's the most mechanically solid TW game.
>>338179975
No, there are no gobbo legendary lords atm.
There are gobbo generals though.
But they plan on adding more lords in the future.
So what leaders do the Vampire Counts get?
>>338180790
>>338180714
I meant performance wise you niggas
>>338179873
He's basically immortal to physical wounds fluffwise since his magical (plot) armour heals any wounds inflicted upon him, keeping his beauty in pristine shape at all times.
Doubt he'd even get stabbed in the crotch because he's one of THE strongest duelists out there, and I think he cares way, WAY more about his face than his Sigvald.jr to be honest.
Before his death in the end times he went fucking batshit berserk mode because his face got disfigured in a fight (Basically, the first time he's ever been truly injured) with an undead wight lord and mutilated his hands in the process due to throwing away his sword and beating the everloving shit out of his skull, still caught up within in his rage he must've forgotten that his armour would heal all of his wounds. But then the troll king he had insulted many, MANY times walked by when he was resting and decided to crush his skull with his club.
And that's the end of his story.
>>338180598
No, but I do worship Slaanesh.In reality though I'm a lonely half-autist with weight problems, so I'm guessing I'm more inclined towards Nurgle.
>>338180735
Crotch armor is fucking badass though.
>>338180803
manny the fanny and grimdark gandalf
nobody cool like Abhorash
>>338180803
Gee, I don't fucking know, like, vampires?
>>338180803
Only Mannfred and Heinrich.
>No Neferata
>No Abhorash
BOOO! They would have been much more interesting, but I suppose they just went with the standard choices.
>>338180974
there's still the chance with FreeLC
>>338180950
>manfred
WORST VAMPIRE EVER
>>338180970
I was talking about specific individuals.
>>338180974
>Heinrich
LITERALLY WHO?
>>338175240
>tfw the game isn't even out and it already has pure waifus, not like that fucking slut Slaanesh.
>>338179873
It's literally explained by magic. Anything ridiculous out of chaos can pretty much be handwaved, because LOL ITS CHAOS, ITS NOT MEANT TO MAKE ANY SENSE!
>>338180873
Worshipping a "god" created from weakness of filthy eldar ? HERETIC SCUM
>>338181057
>LITERALLY WHO?
Necromancer dude. Yeah I know, it's a bit weird how necros get thrown in with VC even though they're not vamps, but their army lists are the same.
I just hope we get Neffy at some point, games could always use more waifus.
I WANT TOMB FUCKING KINGS.
AND DARK ELVES.
>>338180846
>THE strongest duelists out there
that must explain his weird as fuck stats in TWW then, thanks for the read
>>338180735
at least now womyn cant claim that men dont get ridiculous armour
>>338181312
Arkhan/Neferata OTP
>>338175240
>>338181067
I wonder if the vamp commanders come from different bloodlines and if we can choose them specifically.
>>338181105
Slaanesh isn't created from eldar in Fantasy though.
>>338181359
I think wood elves will come long before since they're based in the old world. Tomb kings will likely come later due to already having an undead faction. Dark elves and high elves probably get in the same expansion, along with lizardmen because they're all based in not-america/atlantis.
>>338181359
I sure as fuck hope they give us Settra.
>>338180394
Thats why I said I'll wait in case a mod spices them up m8o
>>338181374
Gonna be funny to see someone complain about fanservice with Neferata, since her skin is like impervious to damage.
Must be pretty neat being a WH vampire. They're so powerful that they can just dress in whatever/FASHION because it kinda doesn't matter.
>>338181451
No, you don't.Not yet.
>>338181312
VC use human troops though.
Maybe they've changed the lore, but last time VC acted like benevolent overlords.
>>338180846
I really hope they add his mirror guard retinue, if not by themselves, then I hope they get modded in instead. They are so important to his character and lore.
>>338181371
Sigvald's only real downfall is his refusal to ride mounts, which is a big deal in warhammer tabletop and probably in total war because you're basically forsaking the option of getting a massive fucking chaos dragon for a pretty boy. But if you manage to get him into a duel with a lord/hero, he's gonna tear up some new assholes.
>>338181687
tell me about settra
whats he all about
>>338181687
Aside from Khalida, there aren't many other leaders for Tomb Kings worth mentioning. I'm sure he'll be in if TKs make it.
>>338181997
Yeah that's the fluff, but in-game, VCs use all-undead armies. It's actually a bit sad/silly, because pre-battle speeches are still in, and it looks a bit odd when Mannfred is standing there orating to a bunch of mindless corpses.
I think it's more like, why use perfectly good bloodbags for combat when they're obviously terrified of you and will turn heel at the soonest possible moment? Personally, I think it would be neat to have a borderline "good guy" vampire who basically uses undead legions to protect his human citizens, but that's probably anathema in the grim darkness of the fantastical fantasy that is WHFB.
>>338181359
All 16 major armies are confirmed to be in the game over the trilogy and DLC cycles.
So Get hyped.
>>338182297
He's one of the Tomb Kings of old.
He's the guy who spat in the eye of Nagash and the Chaos Gods themselves.
There's a lot to read about him and I wish they'd given us a novel about him rather than Archaon or any of the other faggots.
>>338146791
We have to build a wall! And the undead will pay for the wall with their lives!
>>338182247
Speaking of mounts, that's a great addition honestly. Gonna get Manny a cool zombie dragon to cruise around the battlefield on.
I'm not seeing Tzeentch discs on the chaos mount roster, will be a bit sad if they're not in.
>>338182297
HeRULES.
>>338182568
GELT 2502
BUILD WALL
>>338182396
Shame they didn't go with it though. I think the quote from one of the books were great, some guy who says they're superior to humans so why shouldn't they rule humanity?
Lots of cool potential with it too. Humans living under vampiric rule, side by side with the undead. No need to kill humans, just make them donate blood every now and then. A benevolent dictator.
>>338146791
>King of Bretonnia, the nation of KNIGHTS, fighting unmounted like some common peasant
Extra-heretical
>>338182476
Settra was such a fucking badass.
And of course they kill the entire franchise and him along with it.
>>338182476
>There's a lot to read about him
which books do I read
>>338182797
>>338182396
Wasn't Vlad all about that though?
And I recall there were a few other Vampire Counts who were basically all about being racist against non-humans and looking to exterminate them so that humanity could have their clay.
>>338182917
Shhh, it's better this way, Settra is gone and AoS can't touch him. Unless GW brings him back. Which they probably will at one point.
>>338182398
So I can think of 14:
-Empire
-Orcs
-Dwarfs
-Vampire Counts
-Brettonia
-High Elves
-Dark Elves
-Wood Elves
-Ogres
-Lizardmen
-Tomb Kings
-Skaven
-Warriors of Chaos
-Daemons
Who am I missing? Chaos Dwarfs? Tilea?
>>338183125
Empire
Dwarfs
Bretonnia
Lizards
High Elves
Wood Elves
Dark Elves
Warriors of Chaos
Daemons of Chaos
Beastmen
Orcs and Gobbos
Skaven
Vampire Counts
Tomb Kings
Ogres
Chaos Dwarfs
>>338182797
I agree, it's a cool concept, but probably a bit too "nice" for Warhammer, where everything needs to be grim and dark and CHAOS.
>>338183090
Vlad's dead, baby.
But yeah, I think at the time the game takes place, the time of subtlety for VCs is over. Vlad tried (and nearly succeeded) in infiltrating the Empire, but now we just have retards like Conrad and Mannfred at the reins, and they're not into that sneaky shit. (Just another reason Nerferata should have been playable.)
>>338183125
>>338183409
Beastmen and possibly Night Goblins? I wouldn't hold my breath for Chaos Dorfs honestly.
>>338183409
>Beastmen
That's the one.
>>338183551
I'd rather have Chaos Dwarfs over Night Goblins.
>>338183551
>I wouldn't hold my breath for Chaos Dorfs honestly.
Why not? They're in the same area as the Ogres, and it's not like they're lacking materials to use
>>338183551
Vlad was too good for this world.
Anyway, gotta love the Lahmian bloodline, sneaky cunts, but at least they keep their humans happy and content.
>>338158339
>Mentioned here
>a fanbase of more than 10 people
HASHUT FAVORS US
>>338183673
>>338183724
Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the chaos dorfs to make it in, I'm just not seeing it happen since they've been out of the game for so long. see >>338158339
>>338183835
Vlad would be a bit OP honestly, his statline on tabletop completely shits on any other vampire. That being said, they DID decide to make Archaon playable for chaos, so why not? (because he's "dead I guess. What a shame)
>>338185456
Bretonnia never got an 8th Edition book, something arguably worse than the Chaos Dwarves, who atleast got a full Forgeworld book for 8th.
And yet they're in the game.
>>338185456
I'm just pissed off we're getting Manfred, literally the worst of the VCs.
>>338183724
>all 16 major races
please please please let the 16th be Kislev
>>338185840
Kislev isn't a major race, but they will be in the game. (And possibly playable at some point.)
>>338185613
Yeah, but you can't seriously tell me there are more chaos dwarfs fans than Bretonnia fans. I can hardly think of any army more niche than chaos dwarfs.
>>338185732
And Heinrich who's not even a vampire. I hope we at least get Krell too, or it'll be really really lame.
>Been reading up on warhammer 40k lore for months
>this game comes out
>now I have to read about regular warhammer lore
>>338186048
I only vaguely recall Krell. Remind me again, who is he?
>>338186159
IMO, Fantasy does a lot better with the lore department than 40k. And this is coming from someone who loves the shit out of 40k, despite its many flaws.
>>338186048
>they will be in the game
I know they're technically in the game from the start as non-playable, but from hearing what people with pre-release codes have said, every non-playable human faction has very standard Empire units, including Kislev
They're just too cool to leave like that
Are Chaos still locked behind a pre-order paywall, or DLC? Otherwise into the trash.
>>338186575
buy it in the first week of release and you get them free
>>338186679
Why just a week? For what purpose for the timed content paywall?
>>338186807
Early adopter bonus.
>>338155583
Is there a point to this except being funny?
I'm pretty interested in the VC but I have to agree with many of the people in this thread- not the best Lord choices. Still some new lords are being added as free or in dlc so maybe there will be a good alternative in time.
In terms of extra races beyond the main 15 Chaos Dwarves are actually the best contenders, since unlike the alternatives they have had recent models and rules (even if it is Forgeworld instead of mainline GW). I did like Kislev in the M2 mod and do hope they get more than just a few empire units
>>338186894
Looks like Camo.
>>338187161
Yeah but it's a table top game. I'm pretty sure you're not going to be able to fool your buddy with that.
Or is there a camo mechanic?
>yfw because there are now flying units in this engine we'll eventually get WWI, II, and Vietnam Total War games after Warhammer
>>338186807
There was a major backlash when chaos warriors were hidden behind a preorder and dlc wall (No surprise there). Just check on any of the early videos and trailers, the ratings and comments are a fucking mess.
So they can't really remove them as a preorder bonus due to marketing laws (Enticing people into buying shit with bonuses, and then removing them before full release is a huge nono that could easily turn into a court case), So they did the best thing they could and made them free for anyone who buys the game within a week after release.
>>338187613
If Orks believe something hard enough, everyone else sees it as true, so yes, in effect this would potentially be a successful Trojan Horse tactic in the rules if you roll well
>>338187739
>We don't get those games
>People mod total war: warhammer into them instead so you get planes and choppers with bat/dragon skeletons
>>338146791
>its the "its fantasy again" episode
>>338187613
Sounds like someone hasn't run into any kommandos
>>338147912
>>MUH BRAND
it's not yours
Can't wait to play the finished game in a year or two.
>>338146791
>No cape physics
Chaos looks awesome, suneater appears to be a terrifying god of death that can solo small armies, i look forward to obliterating all civilization at the behest of the dark gods
I was gonna preorder this but then I remembered that I don't actually like the battles in total war
>>338188059
>It's the 40k is getting 3 fucking video games episode
>Two of them are reruns
>love warhammer
>couldn't get into total war games, found them fucking boring
Confused desu, might torrent it and see if I like it.
>tfw next total war will be ww1
>the magic source code will be converted into artillery and aerial support calls
Noice
>>338146791
Backward jump looks horrible.
>>338188693
>Being this ass hammered
>>338176124
That must have cost at least a grand. Pretty impressive
>>338189235
Literally just the jumping forwardanimation in reverse
>>338152864
>not gonna be that easy
Here's hoping because sniping out the general with cannons or whatever is always hilariously easy in TW games, so much so that I have to stop myself from doing it to avoid ruining the fun. They better also keep them from doing that suicidal charge thing AI generals just love to do.
>>338176602
For me it's not just about the tech level. I want to start in my proud nation and fly our colors as I colonize the savages in foreign lands.
>>338189792
unfortunately I think this is the closest we'll get in a while to a proper colonization poeriod game.
hey, at least it'll be modable
>>338188494
>>338188059
40k gets shitloads more games than fantasy
>>338175240
>that vampiress laughing softly as advisor-kun meets mannfred
If they weren't von carstein bloodsuckers I'd have been sold
>>338188494
>>338190249
All I want is total war with guns.
>>338186310
Badass former chaos lord turned wight king that follows Heinrich everywhere. He's a cool guy.
>>338186342
Sure, but without real army lists, it's kinda a lot of work to make them unique and interesting enough.
>>338188059
There are very few WH fantasy games compared to 40k
>>338190407
40k is getting dawn of war for their rts
admittedly that has less of a draw to non-rts fans (like me!) than total war where you can at least do well enough on the campaign map to avoid battles that require skill to win
>>338189721
Well, if you give your dude a mount (which you should) then he's gonna be super-fucking-mobile. Siege units are sorta countered by flying units, which the VC have easy access to, so I don't think it'll be a problem (if VC is player-controlled of course. AI vamps might be pretty easy to deal with ,yeah)
So how do I find out if the fantasy armies I actually like are being added and if they'll be free or dlc?
Sooooooo is it shit? Seems pretty terribly optimized.
>>338175240
Does Vamps mean that we aren't getting Tomb Kings?
Because they seem too similar for vidya purposes
Should I buy this or Witcher 2 and 3
>>338191282
at best, they would be a VC reskin
>>338190960
has your army had an armybook past the 7th edition rulebook? if yes it will get added
is your army a non chaotic human army? if no it'll probably be a DLC
>>338190960
Expansions will be stand-alone, so you can decide when their release gets announced.
>>338191282
Not right away, but they'll probably be added at a later point in time.
>>338191405
Not really. There are considerable differences between TK and VC. That being said, they are similar enough that I understand why they don't immediately add them.
>>338191390
Depends on what kind of games you enjoy, m8
>>338191282
>>338191405
They said that their goal was to "integrate all 16 races"
Mind you: there are only 15 GW army books. So Chaos Dwarfs are a part of that number.
>>338191638
16th is Dogs of War
believe
>It's out
Do i need to have any knowledge of Dawn of War to play this game?
Beacuse it looks pretty fucking cool
>>338191282
TK and VC might have a similar design (both being undead), but their playstyle is completely different.
VC is all melee and big monsters.
TK is heavy in ranged units and chariots.
>>338191638
>Chaos dwarves
>Ever being acknowledged
Maybe around the same time as Fimir!
>>338191282
>game has been about reskinned human factions for all its history
>2 undead armies, where one has hordes of chariots, buff magic, subterranean deployment, shooting units and living statues, is now too similar to the other undead army for gameplay purposes
>>338191739
>Implying
Legion of Azgorh, motherfucker.
>>338151876
you're retarded
>>338191757
they are going to make them anyway, just not for release
you just wait for dat brown undead pussy
>>338191638
I haven't followed WH since I was a kid, does this mean Beastmen will be in as separate from chaos marauders or are they all one thing now
>>338191719
dawn of war is about warhammer 40k
total warhammer is about warhammer fantasy
they're 2 different settings, so no, you don't need to
>>338191961
separate
>>338182297
Settra is the original sorcerer king of men, he united Nehekhara into the first Human empire before Sigmar was a glint in his father's eye. He was brilliant beyond metric, cruel beyond reason, beloved and feared by all and unspeakably arrogant. His full list of titles took two hours to read aloud. I love him.
Settra founded the Mortuary Cult of Nehekhara and thus brought together what would become it's unique magical tradition, this tied into him setting the tread for Nehekhara's obsession with death and afterlife. He wanted to live and rule forever but his priests failed him and so mummified him on death promising to bring him back in an immaculate golden form once they could.
Obviously they failed but when Nagash killed everyone in Nehekhara and almost brought them back as undead slavesanother story for another timeall the Tomb Kings woke up sentient and started huge civil war because every reigning monarch was alive at once. Settra woke up few days latter and just kept kicking people's shit in till they behaved themselves and went back to bed until they were needed.
He is notable for being the only redeeming factorfor me anywayof The End Times where he refused to bend the knee to a resurgent Nagash despite being offered the number two position in the New World Order of undead because Settra can't keen down because his balls are in the way. He was left a lonely head in the desert to watch his monuments erode.
Que the Chaos gods rolling in thinking they've got an in on this one and put him back together thinking he'll be their champion, motherfucker says nothing and starts walking north so the gods think "Yes got him." but the bastard is just running on will and hate and never actually signs up to anything. So when he gets to the final battle he just calls them fags and runs of to find Nagash, saves him from a dragon ogre because only SETTRA gets to kill him.
And then they all blow up. That bit's rubbish.
>>338191961
>Beastmen of Chaos
>Daemons of Chaos
>Warriors of Chaos
>Bretonnia
>Empire
>Dwarfs
>Greenskins
>Wood Elves
>High Elves
>Dark Elves
>Skaven
>Lizardmen
>Ogre Kingdoms
>Vampire Counts
>Tomb Kings
15 factions.
Chaos Dwarfs (through ForgeWorlds "Legion of Azgorh" rules) is the only other 8th edition legal army.
>>338191618
I was speaking strictly model wise
>>338192268
>Settra is the original sorcerer king of men
Settra isn't a sorcerer, though.
He had his priesthood do the magical stuff.
Still the raddest nigga in the universe, though.
>>338191618
Witcher guy here- just looking for some epic fighting and monster stuff, wasn't a big fan of Shogun 2- as much as I love Warhammer, I'm more into the cinematic aspect of huge battles not so much controlling.
>>338192268
You conveniently forgot that he prostrated himself to Archaon.
>>338152616
Good luck with those finite resources. We can just breed more.
And fuck what this guy said >>338148945
And army of griffon riders is where it's at.
>>338192268
>"SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE" he shouted, trembling with rage, "SETTRA RULES!"
Best part of the End Times, right here.
>>338149905
Sash of shame?
>>338192660
>SETTRA RULES
Yes, yes he does
>>338166470
>octopussi
This is my fetish
>>338192486
Witcher 2 and 3 are pretty good. I'd say get both them AND this game, but I'm guessing you can't afford that.
Nobody really knows how good total warhammer will be at this point though, it's not released yet. I can tell you that I enjoyed the witcher games a lot though, so that may be the safer bet for now, especially since total war games can be a bit buggy at launch.
>>338192459
VC and TK models look very dissimilar though. TK has that whole "spooky egyptian mummy" theme going on.
>>338152725
People are confirming steady 60+ on high with 970s.
Ultra chugging to 40 at times, it runs better than Attila atleast.
>A warhammer fb game without elves
Why is this allowed
>>338188402
Well fuck. You just ruined this game for me. I didn't even notice.
>>338192520
what? that didn't happen
>>338193435
There's gonna be 2 or 3 expansions with the other races
>>338193435
Sounds like paradise to me.
>>338193435
because this way all the 3 factions of elves will come togheter in a single expansion for maximum knifeears concentration
>>338193435
You'll get your knife ears you gay ass fairy. In upcoming expansions.
But I'm pretty sure you'll be able to play as Wood Elves, considered that they are located in the same world region where this game is taking place.
>>338193596
Yes, it did. Read the Lord of the End Times novel.
>>338193821
>we will be able to see drycha's ass animated
the hatesex would be terrifing to behold
>>338193925
I like the third helmet design the best.
>>338193925
no, he didn't, no, I won't, go away.
>>338190871
Mounted generals are even more flimsy since they're extremely vulnerable to cannon/rock fire and the AI can never resist using them as shock cavalry. We'll see, hopefully they spent some time on the AI so they don't so readily throw away their general.
But this is TW, so I sort of doubt it.
>>338193608
That's retarded tho. that's like releasing a wh fb game with out chaos. Their excuse was that when they pitched the idea, chaos wasn't included that's why it was a pre order.
>>338192467
He can absolutely cast spells on the tabletop.
>>338192520
I'm not saying it didn't happen but I am saying I don't remember it.
For anyone interested 1d4chan provides a funif slightly too meme-yversion of events.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Settra_the_Imperishable
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Tomb_Kings
And Lexicanum is a dryer summery
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Settra
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tomb_King
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/NehekharaI never come to /v/ I'm just here to not take up /tg/ space with vidya.
>>338193925
Hmm never did read those, what's the context of that? In a bubble it seems like a betrayal of the character.
>>338190407
So, Empire & Napoleon?
>>338181625
>not-America/Atlantis
Kekd
>>338194086
I will copypaste it, if you don't.
>>338194507
I just made this picture for anyone interested in following Archaon's story.
The first two books are 10/10.
>>338194329
>I'm not saying it didn't happen but I am saying I don't remember it.
Ctrl-F Prostrated in the "Lord of the End Times book".
>>338194329
I usually check both sites when I look something up, but 1d4chan always gets a laugh out of me, love reading it.fa/tg/guys are always welcome in our warhammer/40k threads, just don't get too snarky because we mostly just play the vidyas and not much else of the medium
>>338193925
His horns....they keep getting bigger and thicker. Is there no limit?
>>338194329
>1d4chan
When the fuck did that site get the stupid idea into it's collective head that every page needed at least 4 "deep" unrelated quotes from famous assholes?
>>338195570
As I say I don't own it, I'm hoping >>338195475 will post it.
>>338196453
>‘What of the Broken King?’ Archaon asked, his amusement evident.
>Mannfred and Isabella were not the only dead things in Archaon’s service. The Broken King was another– a foreign potentate, ruler of a dead land, clad in shattered vestments and filthy wrappings. He was one of the skeletal princes of far Nehekhara, though which one, he had never revealed, even as he prostrated himself before the Everchosen’s throne in the months after the destruction of Averheim.
>‘He has already gone to confront the enemy,’ Canto said. In truth, he did not know where the Broken King was, or what he was up to, and he did not feel like hunting the creature down to ask it. Let it live or die, as it wished.
Here you go.
>>338197065
Different Anon here and I have a question. If what skeletal prince it was wasn't reveled, then how do you know it was Settra?
>>338197065
Protip:: army books trump novels.
GW has stated this before.
so will my 2600k at 4.4ghz be okay or not?
also zen when
>>338197523
GW never stated this. Don't you fucking lie.
And by the way, in the End Times book, the ultimate fate of Settra is never revealed. His story there ends with the Chaos Gods offer.
>>338197478
Because a few pages later he removes the shroud covering his face to reveal himself to Settra, dum dum.
Man I better not die in a fiery car crash before this comes out.
>>338198893
You just gave Tzeentch a reason to fuck with fate.
So fucking hyped for this, but I know it'll be weird to look back on vanilla TWW after an xpac or two.
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