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>>338108889
Is there actually any lovecraft?
>>338110190
Nah, maybe a few usual mutated wildlife, but OP's gotta have his memes, even if he's never read Lovecraft in his life.
>>338108889
It's okay wen Fromsoft does it
dude maine lmao
Isn't this just Point Lookout?
>>338110791
no it's way worse
>It's okay when bloodborne does it
>>338110910
Bethesda used HP Lovercraft references and actually copied the plot of some of his stories in Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4.
>>338111148
>citation needed
>>338110825
Why?
I kinda hope they copy Lovecraft actually. I want them to do the scene where they bash Cthulhu in the face with a boat and for everyone to cry about how there's no way that'd stop him
>>338110910
>>338110413
At least they actually try and differentiate themselves from everyone else doing it.
Bethesda just wants to get the quick le epic Cthulhu reference out without really understanding what it actually is.
>>338111148
I know I'm just being an asshole I actually enjoy both alot.
>>338110910
>>338110413
tbqh the only moment where it was egregious was the fishing hamlet.
like, miyazaki literally finished reading through shadow over innsmouth and then told his dev team to copy everything word for word for the environmental design. like, he didn't even fucking try on that one.
>>338111240
Look up dunwich building for fallout 3
can anyone upload the dlc to Megaupload?
>>338111383
>nigger
Don't you have some Basketball games to be playing or out raiding with your fellow hoodlums while listening to yoyoyo niggah niggah weed music
Literally the only Lovecraftian influence BB has is super intelligent advanced aliens from space that humans can't comprehend and the fishing hamlet
Other than that, there's fucking nothing. Stop memeing it up like fagboys.
>>338111415
>Implying it wasn't sick as fuck though
>>338111449
That covers Fallout 3, Now how about oblivion and skyrim.
>>338111483
Nah thought I'd take the night off to shitpost on /v/.
>>338111240
>>338111449
Oblivion has Shadow Over Hackdirt. And The Sunken Ones
>>338111532
Oblivion has an Innsmouth town and related quest. I don't remember anything Lovecraft in Skyrim but I don't remember a lot about that game.
>>338111352
>Bethesda just wants to get the quick le epic Cthulhu reference out without really understanding what it actually is.
what is it then
>>338111531
It wasn't
>>338111517
And the madness.
If you ask anyone what the fuck Lovecraftian shit is about they'd just say
>Madness
and
>monsters that humans can't comprehend
>>338111759
memecore horror
There's zero Lovecraft references in Far Harbor.
>>338111483
>thinking a black person who visits 4chan gets triggered by racism anymore
top kek m8
>>338111240
Fallout 4 have more "The Dunwich Horror" stuff and The Secret of Cabot House quest is a play by play of Out of the Aeons.
>>338111925
It was a legitimate question new friend.
>>338111517
>>338111842
Also the dream worlds.
>>338111842
Which is really only indicative that they don't actually know much Lovecraft.
>>338112074
>that damage control
I bet he's cucking you right now.
itt rpg codex still butthurt
>>338112234
>top kek
>m8
>damage control
>cuck
How is your first week on 4chan?
>>338111517
You are seriously retarded. Every creature on the second half of the game, hell, even the witches abode on the first half are clearly lovecraft inspired.
>I'm unironically enjoying FO4 right now
What do I do guise, should I kill myself and not pass this shit taste genes?
>>338110413
>only one company does it right
>"DUDE WHY ARE THEY THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED TO DO IT?"
>>338112476
Nah dude its an alright game a bit shallow for what it should have been after 7 years but still fun to play.>>338112476
>>338112392
We are not the same person you fucking retard also it's funny you are calling us newfags after the tryhard memeing that was your first post
>>338112476
If you're running the survival mod that turns it into 2x damage for everyone it's a damn fun game. Nothing wrong with that.
>>338114864
Im not going to lie, I have this on PS4 and dropped it, mods really do make these games better, but I remember hearing something about the official survival mode that was being brought in, how does that hold up?
>>338111941
Immortal now and don't care about the wasteland.
>>338111707
Hermaeus Mora is as lovecraftian as you can get. You visit his realm in Dragonborn.
honestly Bloodborne is the only game that's done it right
>>338111851
I guess Bethesda was on point, then
>>338111517
>he thinks lovecraftian is only sea monsters and space aliens
lol. Lovecraft is pleb as fuck too. Have you ever even opened a book before lmao.
>>338110384
So....what you're saying is. He's a massive faggot.
>>338111352
>At least they actually try and differentiate themselves from everyone else doing it.
Hmm, I love bloodborne, but from soft did nothing new or different, you can find better written lovecraft hackstories for 1 dollar on amazon.
By all means we can all hate bethesta for being greedy lazy jews, but lovecraft bullshit is not the right reason to hate them.
>>338116981
2bh bloodborne is a modern day work of art. it should be experienced by everyone atleast once in their lifetime
>>338117479
I agree 100% it doesn't get enough credit at all
>>338115283
Survival mode really does improve the life of the game, but I highly suggest you install the level cap mod.
Even on survival enemies get bullet spongey around the level 100 mark.
>>338117694
>install mod
>on console
Did I miss something?
>>338108889
dude, puzzles lmao
F4 would have at least been ok to play if not for the fucking bullet sponge enemies and the constant crying of the settlement shit.
The building was shit, and I fuck hate it that you have to do it.
>>338117398
>fromsoft did nothing new or different
disagree
Are they going to add paid mods to the creation kit thing? If I can get some shekels out of fallout 4 players it might even make up for the game being so boring.
>>338111483
Come on, if you're gonna false flag like that, at least try.
>>338117917
Ah yes, I remember that puzzle.
Was a bitch.
>>338117872
You made error number 1.
Playing a bethesda game on a console.
>>338117479
Honestly I was pondering about it today and yeah, at the very least it's probably one of the most interesting games in terms of story and lore.
>>338118782
I generally enjoy Fallout games but not enough to build a PC this gen to play them.
>>338108889
Whats with the recent rise in lovecraft related threads? I have seen 3 a day for the past few days lately.
Also daily reminder "cthulhu" is pronounced "kuh-lhoo-lhu"
>>338119142
So youre too dumb, poor or lazy. Gotcha.
>>338119464
>"kuh-lhoo-lhu"
>>338119569
I dont feel Ive missed anything this gen yet with this decision, call it what you want.
>>338117917
>>338118693
This isn't very Fallout
>>338119985
It's a computer simulation.But I agree. It kinda sucks.
Some anons in the last thread I saw on /v/ about Lovecraft recommended me some bretty gud short stories
What are your favorites, /v/?
Rats in the Walls is god tier
>>338119985
Neither is fallout 4.
>>338119820
It certainly isnt "ka-too-lew". Lovecraft himself says the closest thing to "cthulhu" a human can pronounce is "kuh-lhoo-lhu"
>>338120389
The Colour out of space.
>>338120389
Color Out of Space
The Outsider
I just started playing. Is the lever-action supposed to load all 5 shots every time?
>>338120389
Its really hard to not love Call of Cthulhu desu, its extremely well written, despite its ending being a bit abrupt
I also really like at the Dunwhich Horror
>>338111458
second, where the download at?!
>>338111383
>playing Bethesda games on consoles
Why would anyone do this to themselves?
>>338111458
It was uploaded like two weeks ago in several sites. You are slow m8
>>338119985
>A simulated reality isn't very fallout.
OK.
Never-mind the fact that both of the previous games had it in them.
You fucking idiot.
>>338108889
WHERE
DOWNLOAD
PLEASE
>water, spoopy..
>tentacles
nooope.
>>338124646
where is itttt
>>338120389
Not Lovecraft, but King in Yellow is really good. It felt like it was a huge inspiration for Junji Ito.
Is no one gonna mention how far harbour got leaked onto nexus mods?
>>338122991
You mean fallout 3? Another shitty game?
>>338125745
King in Yellow was weird, it starts out really great and mysterious and then gets more and more subdued towards the end where it's just a story about young french people in love, as far as i understood.
I know it's a collection of stories but they all shared something ominous, except for the last and longest story which just felt really out of place.
>>338110413
BB doesn't just have the occasional reference or cuhrazy tentacle monster. Lovecraft influences form a fundemental part of the game's design and story. Cosmic horrors beyond human comprehension push the events of the game even if you don't immediately pick up on it. I wish more games had something similar to the insight mechanic, that was clever af. It's really like peering through the lens of a madman. The NPCs are all under their influence.
>be without insight
>huh nothing's there
>come back
>I SEEK COMMUNION WITH AMYGDALA
Torrent when?
>>338122991
previous two?. the only ones that come to mind, are operation anchorage, and vault 112, both in FO3. so enlighten me anon.
>>338111415
havent read any of lovecraft but playing through BB for the first time, what happens in the lovecraft book? cause i know about the fishing village
>>338128637
Do the amygdalas really show up when you have higher insight? I thought they just appear when you're at a certain part of the game
Anyways yea I agree. Werewolf hunter/Cosmic horror themes mixed with Victorian London esque setting is really cool
>>338111383
>I own both F4 and BB
so you are worse than both sides?
>>338129274
the whole thing in the story is
Insight=becoming closer to the great ones aka cthulu monsters
Blood= doing some shit that i dont fully remember
>>338108889
can anyone explain the story of this dlc. i dont care about spoilers.
>>338129274
yeah, if i understand correctly they only show up if you have more than 20 insight i think
>>338129274
Try starting NG+ with a ton of insight, hear Mergo crying, see Amygdalas, etc. Wish they added more stuff.
>>338129558
>blood
Laurence, the First Vicar disobeyed Provost Willem's mantra to "fear the old blood" and furthered blood ministration research. See: the horrors of the research hall. Blood ministration is responsible for the beast plague, you're consuming Great One blood because it cures diseases and gets you high.
bumo
>>338129558
Partially wrong, The blood was the blood of the Great Ones that heals you nut turns you into a beast that has bloodlust.
>the only thing normalfags know about Lovecraft is Cthulhu
>they instantly hate him when they find out what a vehement racist he was instead of loving him even more for not being a bullshitting jackass
I don't get this hatred of playing FO4 on console. It's the first Bethesda game which is actually well-designed (on Survival) and doesn't need mods.
>>338108889
Does it actually have any references or are you just a meme spamming cunt?
>>338130228
Fucking Love the dude, made his own Gods and had a unique style.
>>338129205
OWB had the High School simulation. Youre enlightened dummy.
>>338129205
There was a broken simulation room in New Vegas and Nellis had simulation booths.
Simulations are fallout tier, but it's rare cutting edge technology for the military (Nellis & Brotherhood Sim pods) and groups working on cutting edge tech (Big MT) or with the US Gov at high levels (vault tech).
>>338110384
well he typed lovecraft in google images, he knows what hes talking about, le tentacles am i right :^)
>>338130384
wasn't VR
>>338130228
>people surprised that a dude from 1890 was racist
>literally removed awards that he received because of it
might as well remove all mention of the founding fathers because most had slaves, or remove the Lincoln memorial because he actually didnt give two shits about slaves and only did it to help with his presidency
>>338130409
your right
>>338130338
he didnt invent Cthulu though.
>>338130437
It was a fucking holodeck facility entirely made up. Nothing in that place was real. The entire interior changes depending on what quest you are doing. Did you even play the game? Damn son.
>>338128913
So, anyone got a mega link?
>>338130228
Lovecraft drops god tier racist banter every other paragraph. Anyone who actually reads him knows he's a racist.
>>338130489
It wasn't Direlilith or whatever his name is
>>338130440
He did it so he could conscript niggers into the war. He was even going to send them back to Africa after the civil war but some ASSMUNCH LIBERAL ARTS ACTOR HIPSTER FAGGOT shot him.
I also dislike this condemnation of racism in society these days. It's trying to push a delusion and because it's not reality the only outcome will be frustration, which will further destroy racial relations. Different races are not equal to each other and some are lesser than others, but that doesn't mean you have to be malicious towards them for it nor does it mean you have to give them special benefits.
The same is happening with trying to push mental illnesses as "normal" in society. The point is to create a state of frustration and confusion for easier manipulation. The current state of capitalism thrives off confusion the same way an energy system thrives off fuel.
>>338128913
>>338130595
The torrent has been on public trackers for weeks.
The version releasing later today is the one that works with mods already without the need for manual permission editing.
>>338130635
honestly dont remember, but didn't he just bring the idea of Cthulu to life in his works?
Like the base idea of what Cthulu is/was had been preestablished by someone, just like a town tale or some bullshit?
>>338130765
A town tale about a sleeping alien god resting underneath the ocean?
I don't think so
>>338130765
Lovecraft is the sole creator of Cthulhu, but the mythos was elaborated upon by many other writers, some of them close friends.
>>338130918
not that specific. im also fucking retarded so bare with me. I have just been told several times that it was a thing that the concept of was already there and Lovecraft gave it its "legs". I assume just cool spooky tentacle monster someone thought of and Lovecraft went from there
>>338120389
The Dunwhich Horror and Shadow Over Insmouth
>>338130509
no it isnt and no it doesnt, did you actually play the game?
>>338108889
God I wish it was lovecraft. The only 2 decent lovecraftian games I can think of are Eternal Darkness and Bloodborne. Maybe Dead Space a bit though it only slightly was.
>>338130440
Sounds like a plange
>>338130758
So the beta one wont run through nexus mod manager?
>>338108889
>lovecraft
It's called cosmic horror and lovecraft isn't the only one to have written something in this genre.
>Lever Action Rifle can't reload one at a time
>Radium "Rifle" chambered to .45 instead of 5.56
>Adding a Long Barrel to the RR just puts some fucking chicken wire around the muzzle
How?
How does Bethesda STILL not fucking understand guns??????
They'd have to actively work towards fucking up this hard
>>338111415
Nigger, Orphan of Kos and the entire fucking part with Orphan of Kos was amazing.
>>338131138
It does if you set the folders to read only or something like that.
>>338131123
Deadspace is just monsters in space, i wouldn't say its lovecraft. though i've only seen the first one and some of the second
>>338111240
Hermaeus Mora is a blatant Lovecraft homage and a major part of the Dragonborn DLC
>25 US dollars
>>338131160
>can't reload one at a time
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
remember fallout. what the fuck is all this shit. fallout is one of hte most popular game franchises ever but it's complete dogshit. this is some real monkeys paw shit for whoever wished that someone would make a sequel to fallout 2
>>338131265
Sucks to not have gotten the Season Pass when it was $30 plebmo
>discussing Lovecraft as if Cthulhu was his only idea and mealticket
>like he's on the same level as the faggot that got rich inventing Sonic the Hedgehog.
Most of the Cthulhu mythos stories dance around actually describing Cthulhu. The horror isn't derived from the ZOMG OCTOPUSMAN element so much as the whole "this is beyond my mortal comprehension" aspect. The geometry of Cthulhu's lair, the mysterious trinkets uncovered by researchers, the suspicious and untimely deaths of people involved with Cthulhu, etc. Best way to fail at being "Lovecraft" is to think transplanting some mutant octopus shit into your whatever is compelling.
is there at least some 'Salem's Lot shit?
>>338131331
>plebmo
>buycucks pretending they're in a position to mock anyone
>>338131219
Its got a pretty hardcore mind fuck component that gets there. And "big bad" of the series is literally entire moons that devour every living thing in the universe once they wake up.
https://youtu.be/NWZlnXz17XI?t=2m19s
>>338131381
Well, Ligotti is closer to Lovecraft than some of the movie adaptations or fanfics, desu.
If you want to understand the context of Lovecraft's philosophy, then read Eugene Thacker's "Horror of Philosophy" series, it's really good. Or, alternatively, read Schopenhauer's "World as Will and Representation", either of the two will do.
>>338131160
Why waste time understanding a subject when you're going to make bank anyway? Besides, making it work with MAGIC just works. It just works.
>>338129274
I got really high insight early from helping a buddy with boss fights and not really losing any. Yes, you do see them early. Freaked me the fuck out.
>>338131015
I don't think there was much thought of crazy tentacle monsters back in 1890
I mean there's always been sailor myths about krakens and giant squid. That's probably what you meant.
>>338130758
I really dislike the whole, "scientists developed this after the war in hiding" angle to circumnavigate the whole point of the game's intented aesthetic. Bethesda should have made their own post apocalypse franchise instead of shoving shit like this into Fallout. But who cares anymore. The butchering of the first two game's premise has hit so hard it creates a complete dissonance between the games that slowly worked away any believability if Bethesda attempts at lore for me.
I really want someone to make a scorched sierra power armor retexture for fo4
>>338117479
Sure I guess but to each their own. Didn't bother picking up DS3 because after bloodborne I just got kinda bored with it. Souls games aren't fun to me anymore.
>>338131553
I actually read Ligotti, good sir. Excellent taste mein Freund. I will take you up on your other suggestions. phone pic related
https://youtu.be/lxZpEFJhO6k
lyrics are by Ligotti, it's worth it
They ever fix how tedious fallout 4 gets?
>>338108889
It actually looks pretty fun. Bethesda does better when they aren't failing horribly at trying to make an RPG and just make a le wacky side adventure. Point Lookout and The Pitt were both more interesting than Fo3's main game. I'm better Far Harbor will be better than Fo4.
Of course it won't have an ounce of the delicious goodness that was Dead Money and Honest Hearts (the other two were okay).
>>338131703
You know Big MT was obsidian, right? Scientists left alone to fuck around without oversight after the war/making use of the energy crisis solving tier technology and bleeding edge microprocessor tech sounds good to me.
>>338129718
you are sent to far harbor to find a girl you find her almost immediately
a bunch of optional sidequests popup
at any time you can get back in your boat and fuck off back to boston tell her folks you found her
the end
Bethesda usually makes pretty good expansions, it's the only thing they're good at.
>>338131845
I know Current 93, also Death in June, Boyd Rice, Nurse With Wound, all the World Serpent bands and some more obscure ones, too.
I don't really know what to recommend. What do you specifically enjoy in Ligotti/Lovecraft.
>>338131845
>>338131553
Where do i start with Lovecraft?
I want to read his works now
>>338131845
>no time stamp
Nice google images grab
>>338131703
What annoys me is how 200 years after the war everyone still lives in rubble surrounded by corpses.
And it's not even a scenario like "this area only recently became inhabitable"
People have been living like that for 2 centuries
>>338132123
You are retarded
>>338132103
They're mostly short stories and they're in the public domain. He's pretty accessible if your reading level is there. I just started from page 1 on that book in my pic.
>>338111383
>Jolly ranchers
You leaning broski?
>>338110413
Because Bloodborne is the best non-written form of Lovecraft's work that is both uniquely its own property and borrows HEAVILY from him.
>>338132123
>Purple Sticky Note
Do you have fucking brain damage?
>>338132103
Don't even bother to be honest anon. His Shakespearean English is barely comprehensible.
But if you're serious then I'm fairly certain his complete works are public domain now so just download and go.
>>338132103
Read any biography about the man, then read call of cthulu.
>>338112476
It's mindless fun, like a Farcry game. It's actually good for what it is, the problem is that it isn't fucking Fallout.
When I play a Fallout game I want fleshed out factions, interesting settlements, actual quests with multiple ways to go about it, stats that are relevant to dialog, skill checks, stat checks, more than four dialog options, freedom to roleplay (hence the "R" in "RPG"), and a sensical, relevant map.
Fallout 4 has none of that. What it does have is surprisingly good gunplay, decent visuals for what it is, some cool designs, and lots of looting. It's more of an FPS with RPG elements. It's like Bioshock. It's nothing like Fallout.
You see, if this game were "Le Wacky Bethseda Apocalypse Game 2" (with Fallout 3 having been LWBAG 1), then I'd really like it. The problem is that I want more Fallout. I want a followup to New Vegas, but Howard and Hines' punk asses will never let them touch it again because they're so salty that they got out played.
>>338132103
Mountains of Madness, Reanimator, Dunwhich Horror, Dreams of the Witch House, and Rats in the Walls
>>338132163
Fucking this, thing is, that at this point if they changed the aesthetic idiots that started with F3 would be complaining that it dosnt look like a post apocalyptic wasteland. Remember when people were complaining there was too much color in the first trailer? Make one normal looking settlement and people would start frothing at the mouth.
>>338132228
The Call of Cthulu one? or Ligotti. Dont got a clue who that is, dont read often anymore except formanga shit
>>338132273
I'm a level 0 reader, dont matter to me.
>>338132189
>>338132263
Hook
Line
&
Sinker
>>338132263
fuck you my mom bought me those
>>338132103
google "dagonbytes"
I wanna study the Cosmic Horror mythos
Please direct me to some useful places
>>338131798
You've really gotta take a break. It's easy to get burned out on that same formula over and over. If they try to do something fresh with it, they're liable to break it. Bloodborne was their biggest success in terms of fucking with the formula without ruining it. DS3 is kind of meh. I'd like it a lot better if they'd fucking patch in Poise.
>>338132389
No, see, you're misdirected. Most of his stuff isn't even about Cthulhu. It's about him going to bed and waking up in alien Zion or him being a ghost all along.
>>338132103
>buy a book
>read it
Its a fucking book, not a lifestyle change
>>338132523
havel shitters stay mad
>>338132043
Yes you don't need to insult my basic knowledge in the franchise that hard. Big MT as a concept wsd just taking the FUTURE OF TECHNOLOGY from science fiction to it' up most extreme. Not a bad concept on it's own but writers never consider the implications of lore breaking with this shit. Fallout had "rules" that tied the whole premise together so it made some kind of sense. And as they keep expanding the limits of the world to get around those rules they dilute the identity of the franchise.
Under the current rules with the multiple super science secret base areas they could forward the time line a bit and hsve everyone using actual futuristic technology instead of what would be confused futuristic to people in the 50's, and get away with making a modern dcifi game under the Fallout name with it not technically breaking the lore anymore, because the original premise is only excrdisddd when it's convenient.
>>338117872
They're bringing mods to console soon (Xbox one first, PS4 later)
>>338132417
Yup, sure got me bud
>>338132387
I mean, I get they're going for the "ruined world" aesthetic where everything is all shambles and broken and rusty, but that kind of falls flat when previous games in the same series have factions building entirely new cities out of new materials and shit. 100 years prior.
This would all be solved if they set it very recently after the bombs like fallout 1, but nope.
>>338132516
read the necrodongalong
>>338117479
>>338116981
>>338117542
>>338118819
The only game that I wish I owned a PS4 for is Bloodborne.
I seriously get jealous that Sonybabs can have such a great new IP that does Lovecraft justice while still being awesome in terms of gameplay, story and atmosphere.Dark Souls 3 is a middling venture compared to BB, even though it is still a great game unto itself. It just relies too much on DaS1's nostalgia and the piss-poor PvP to really elevate it to 10/10 status like the original game or Bloodborne.
>>338132516
look up
>>338132605
Why do people instantly bring that up. So far I've found like four weapons and a ring that affect poise...which isn't in the game. That's sloppy as fuck. DS1 had poise, I expect it to fucking work in 3.
If I'm in big, heavy armor, I shouldn't get staggered by a rat brushing my leg. It's a non-functioning piece of the game that needs to be turned on. A literal mistake, or unfinished bit. But it gets defended because "M-MUH PVP".
So not only does it render all the poise-boosting equipment and weapon arts useless, but it basically makes raising equip load pointless. So then you have useless arts, useless gear, and a useless stat. Great game.
>>338120815
>closest a human can come to pronouncing it
Which means you're still wrong. There isn't a proper way to say Cthulhu.
>>338132860
no shit. he just gave an example
>>338120389
The shadow out of time
>anything involving water, creatures that live in water, space, or basically anything out of the ordinary is "lovecraftian"
absolutely adore this meme
>You will never have occult cosmic knowledge redefining human existence in your lifetime
>>338129274
Once you hit 40 Insight you can see them around the Cathedral.
Or, and this is more likely, you automatically see them after you defeat Rom in Byrgenwerth.
I also agree, the theme is so damn awesome on paper and they made it fit so cohesively into a game world they created from scratch (albeit highly influenced from aforementioned themes) that it truly deserves more recognition.
>>338132389
The Cthulhu book is just a collection of "essential" short stories from Lovecraft with Cthulhu on the front. Celephaïs is really cool.
>>338132992
>you will
>>338132992
take acid in a place where you can see stars and let your imagination run wild
then write shit down during itthen read it when you get off your high and realize you are a fucking moron
When does it go Lovecraft?
>>338130440
You wanna get MORE pissed off?
There are talks of replacing Andrew Jackson -- one of our most important presidents that is never talked about because he was as close to Hitler as this country has come across in terms of aggressive expansion and use of executive powers -- on the 20 dollar bill with Harriet fucking Tubman.
>>338131221
Anything that gives me a tentacle sword is OK in my book
>>338131139
True, but cosmic horror is to Lovecraft what high fantasy is to Tolkien.
They are inseparable and pretty much the highest form of their respective genres.
>>338132516
Tvtropes
>>338133210
>are talks
they are. I also dont give a shit anon i only pull out cash when i need to use it within the next few days, Jackson hated banks and shouldn't have been on money in the first place. More importantly it shouldnt be Tubman, that bitch didnt do shit. Get someone like MLK who actually affected shit on there instead if you are going for a black rights movement and not some slut just because she's black and a girl.
Robert E. Howard > HP Lovecraft
>>338133343
As long as its not August Derleth
>>338108889
What a lazy ass name
>>338133324
that dragon size makes no fucking sens, so I guess I see where you're going with this.
>>338133429
why not?
>>338131381
>The horror isn't derived from the ZOMG OCTOPUSMAN element so much as the whole "this is beyond my mortal comprehension" aspect. The geometry of Cthulhu's lair, the mysterious trinkets uncovered by researchers, the suspicious and untimely deaths of people involved with Cthulhu, etc.
Exactly. The horror of Lovecraft's entities doesn't come from them being weird squiggly squid monsters.
The horror of his works is that the universe is completely alien and doesn't care about human existence at all. We've existed for less than a blink of a cosmic horror's eye and we are just a tiny spec of dust floating in a vast, cold universe.
tl;dr: The horror is existential despair and hopeless insignificance.
>>338133324
how is it possible that that thing exists. i dont think anywhere could house it and its walking would cause massive tremors and even its god damn breathing would cause problems to surrounding areas. the everloving fuck
does it live in space? cause that is the only reason that would make sense but still wouldnt make fucking sense
what does it do for food, theres no way it takes in enough energy to move or even properly breathe with an organ system as big as that. fuck that thing would collapse under its own weight if anything
the fuck
>>338120389
If you have the time then go with At the Mountains of Madness.
Its starts mundane but slowly as the team goes down into the mountain they find horrors that break everything.
>>338133324
How the fuck can that dragon become thay huge
>>338133543
>>338133569
Magic. Dummies.
>>338133607
fuck you magic itself has boundaries
I'm literally never giving Bethesda any money ever again
>>338133607
But why
Lot of hipster Lovecraft niggers in this thread. No love for Dunwich Horror and The Colour of Space? Sort it out.
>>338133683
Lovecraft is overrated. And the reasons people come up with to explain why his horror is the best are silly.
>>338133324
You're a big dragon
>>338108889
There are literally zero lovecraftian elements in this at all.
But there is also LITERALLY nothing wrong with Lovecraft.
Every board on this site is just a bunch of underage, contrarian cunts who think the spirit of this website is being shitty fucking meme spammers who "hate" and "rage" against everything the board stands for. You're ALL vying e-credit on a website where YOU ARE FUCKING ANONYMOUS.
You previously tween faggot cocksuckers tried to hard to fit in, and you destroyed everything. I'd literally rather be on reddit. None of you have any idea what this place used to be about, what the spirit was, and what the community was.
Fuck all of you. I hope the fucking beebs sandnigger rape your mom, and the fucking spooks cock the shit out of your ass. And then kill yourself.
None of you are worth anything.
>>338133324
Well, to be fair, the reason Tolkien is revered as such a great fantasy author is that he wasn't trying to write fantasy. LOTR, The Silmarilion, and all the other shit he wrote to go with it are basically a linguistic/theological project that he spent is life working on. He essentially designed an artificial mythology for a civilization that lacked its own (Britain, who's mythology all came from invading Vikings and later French).
He was like "what would this region's ancient stories be?" Then he set about doing the real linguistics work to figure it out. It was a massive labor of love. He wasn't going "huehue I'm gonna make a le epic medieval fantasy with orc sluts", he was actually trying to do something. That's why what he did was superior to "fantasy authors". Because he wasn't a fantasy author. He was a linguist doing linguistic work.
>>338133717
Everyone has their own opinion of course. Personally I just like the obscurity of it all. Fuck the Cuthuthu kids, that's just annoying. Shub-Niggurath is where it's at. It can only exist in time or space, never both. That's a pretty good concept.
>>338133324
that dragon would bring the fucking tide with him
>>338133717
Good goy, shit on your cultural heritage. Lovecraft is an evil racist who uses big words to confuse proud people of color. Read erotic African American novels instead.
>>338108889
When will this FUCKING WATER LEVEL MEME end!?
Goddamn I'm getting sick of this shit in new videogames.
Water is over fucking rated. Stop using the same tired shit devs.
>>338132992
fuck you pete you lying shit i am still waiting
>>338133789
>mythology for a civilization that lacked its own
>Britain
You fucking spastic.
>>338133676
Why not? It's cool. A literal mountain-sized dragon.
That's what I'd have liked to see in skyrim. How can a dragon called "World eater" be a scrawny thing the size of a truck.
>>338133874
I would argue that a nautical themed has yet to be done right, the Wind Waker island hopping stuff comes close though.
All we get are tedious water levels. Slow movement and ripple effects woohoo.
>>338133874
>i haven't played the game: the post
You spend the majority of the time inland you life sized meme.
>>338133885
Britain's mythology was all inherited from the various civilizations that occupied it. Lot of it came from Scandinavia, a ton came from France. They talk a lot about this in the features that came with the extended edition of the movies, LOTR was kind of a big "what if" regarding a native "creation story" and ancient lore for the British isles.
>>338133914
>mountain
nigga thats more than the marina trench
>>338133324
not gonna lie that is definitely me on the left
>>338133789
>>338133885
>>338133991
Maybe I'm misremembering things, but I thought that it wasn't that Tolkein felt that Britain "lacked" its own so much as that the modern Western world had lost its connection to its mythology. Tolkein was a scholar of the ancient civilizations in the British isles, and he intentionally used aspects of their stories in his works to make them into what he felt were more applicable to people in the modern day.
So it's not so much "never had" as "lost." Later in his life/career Jack Kirby would describe his "Fourth World" comic books the same way.
>>338133914
The same way a D&D party might fight an aspect of Leviathan or a shard of the pandorym, but not the actual thing.
The alduin you saw, was at the fraction of it's power. Not in his world eating form. The actual Alduin, Leviathan, Pandorym, would kill you like we kill an ant we failed to notice. Pretty sure Akatosh couldn't stop true alduin NeoEx even if he wanted.
>>338134076
Mointains are bigger than you think. Compared to that person, it's definitely not bigger than an average mountain. Why do you think they take literal hours to climb.
>>338134189
Well I remember that he specifically mentioned being a little dismayed at how much of Britain's folklore was French. So he made it up as kind of a "what if there was an original, native British people, what would their religion, language, and myth be?"
>>338134189
I get what you're saying. Beowulf and the Holy Grail stuff isn't mythology in the same sense as the Bible or the Greco-Roman pantheon or the Norse Eddas. Britain has legends but no unique religion birthed directly from its people and geography.
>>338131845
I hope that cat is named Nigger-Man.
>>338133818
That concept doesn't make any scientific sense.
>>338133837
I'm not American, so that's not my cultural heritage. And it's pretty sad that you consider Lovecraft as cultural heritage.
>>338133761
>But there is also LITERALLY nothing wrong with Lovecraft.
Fuck off, Rob Lowe.
>>338108889
wait people are still playing this?
>>338133543
>>338133324
Ancalagon is a creature of Biblical scale. People mistake Tokien for being like modern fantasy, which is more about imagining another world with rules like ours, but different. Tokein was writing in theological style, so you get a dragon that big. It isn't like Game of Thrones, it's like The Bible.
Like the Babylonian dragon Marduk that Yaweh was said to have taken, and will unleash during the end of days. It's like that, it isn't like Kelly C's draguhnz.
>>338134202
Yeah, I just wish TES games in particular went a little crazier with their lore sometimes. They don't take advantage of it, we usually just get generic simplified shit.
Mostly because a lot of the crazy concepts would be difficult to portray in a game, and the casuals would get confused.
>>338110413
Because most people in here recognize that to instantly fit in, you have to swallow all the FROMshit you can.
Git Gud xD
>>338134371
whats wrong with Rob Lowe. He filmed a sextape with a girl who was like 16
pretty cool dude
>>338112652
>only one company does it right
Dark Corners of the Earth and Eternal Darkness were pretty good desu senpai. (Well, okay, Dark Corners had problems, but ED is a solid title).
>>338134456
me on the right
>>338133541
>The horror of his works is that the universe is completely alien and doesn't care about human existence at all. We've existed for less than a blink of a cosmic horror's eye and we are just a tiny spec of dust floating in a vast, cold universe.
How the fuck is that horror? Humans have always realized they were insignificant, especially when they realized very little things could kill them.
Everyone is going to die, that's hopelessness. Most humans already know that. There's nothing special about Lovecraftian horror. Heck, it's not horrr.
>>338133981
>It's set in a HARBOR
There's PLENTY of fucking water in it to qualify it as a water meme
Go kill yourself you deluded fucking peasant. Come back when you properly vidya.
>>338133914
more moon sized
which is even cooler
>>338134371
>I have no idea what I'm talking about: the post
Literally every fucking post on this site is a shitpost.
>>338134596
Not even close
Thats mountain-sized.
>>338134549
Humans know being trapped in a house with a masked ax-murderer probably isn't very fun, but movies portraying it are easily called horror titles. Horror doesn't have to be unfamiliar and plenty of people exist and believe in a much more cheerful(?) view of life where their god watches over them and will punish the bad and save the good.
>>338134549
>le edgy I'm not scared of being insignificant guy
With modern medicine, space travel, etc. there's the attitude that we have conquered nature. Humans have also always been egotistical. If Lovecraft was so mediocre then I doubt he would have birthed an entire genre that apparently speaks to some people.
Please give us some good examples of horror. I'm waiting for you to tell me how great shit like It Follows or Babadook or Stephen King is.
>>338134472
>pedophiles are cool
Get out reddit.
>>338134660
nah famalam thats moon sized
moons are just space mountains and that dragon couldnt live a planet without destroying it so it must be a moon
Really though Lovecraft is turning into steampunk.
Just glue some fucking tentacles on it
>>338134593
Wait, you aren't a person are you? You're just a electro-chemical shitposting automaton.
Man, your shitposting algorithms are getting better by the day. Or is the average user getting worse?
Either way, the implications are worrying. Anyway. Finish recording this exchange so your creator can improve your baiting routines. Gotta say, your "acting retarded on purpose" scripts are fantastic.
>>338134702
>Humans know being trapped in a house with a masked ax-murderer probably isn't very fun
Believing that you're a smell speck in the universe causes less fear than that.
>cheerful(?) view of life where their god watches over them and will punish the bad and save the good.
Except those who seriously belive in a higher power who will punish the sinners also entertain the possibility they'll be along the punished. Fearing God is part of the religion.
I'm saying Lovecraftian horror isn't even horror unless maybe if you bring in eternal damnation.
>>338134660
Its hand alone covers the entirety of mount Doom if that gives you any sense of scale.
Any other well crafted fantasy worlds to look into? Currently reading wheel of time but I just dont like the "chosen one" story it has, where something always pops up right at hte exact moment to save the day and had no real leadup to happening. Im only on the 3rd book but I hope this isnt a recurring theme, its lame when you come to expect it.
>>338134818
>With modern medicine, space travel, etc. there's the attitude that we have conquered nature
Perhaps this is more of a modern mindset because of arrogance. But humans since time memorize haven't feared being insignificant.
What is there to fear about being insignificant? Maybe you people are just too arrogant to begin with. Are you also afraid that you'll never experience the technology that brings humans to other solar systems?
>Please give us some good examples of horror.
This is kind of a shit argument. It's very possible that there are no good examples of horror. But that's irrelevant. I'm trying to get an argument out of you as to why Lovecraftian horror is horrifying to begin with. Whether there are better horror fiction out there or not is irrelevant. You're dong a Red herring argument.
>>338134942
>>338134942
>Believing that you're a smell speck in the universe causes less fear than that.
The horror comes from that fact being driven into characters skulls (usually men of learning) by eldritch terrors, not necessarily the truth itself.
It's easy to say "yeah we're insignificant", it's another thing entirely to be trapped on a small boat in the middle of the ocean during a giant storm and feeling that truth, that the world literally doesn't give a fuck about your fragile, meaningless life. Lovecraft's works have the effect of making the reader feel that vicariously through the powers of writing and imagination.
>>338134942
You do not know shit and I do not get what point you are trying to make. Cosmic horror is not about fearing the gods in a Christian sense, as the God of the bible does some horrific shit, but he acts more or less logical and cares about the humans. Believers are rewarded and sinners are punished. Lovecraftian gods are entirely different, they are otherworldly incomprehensible entities that can genozide the whole human race for no specific reason.
>>338135190
>there being no reason to live whatsoever is not scary
Either you're just trying to be edgy or you haven't really thought about it yet.
>>338135190
>I'm trying to get an argument out of you as to why Lovecraftian horror is horrifying to begin with
he already said, you stupid fuck. just because you're such a macho son of a bitch doesn't make it non-horror.
>>338134942
>Fearing God is part of the religion.
Some people use the word humbled and view the whole exchange much more brightly than you or I.
>believing...
In your opinion. People have killed themselves over existential nihilism and some find more horror in the unknowable bearing down on them or at least they can empathize with people in Lovecraft's books rendered insane because they took a glimpse at the unknowable.
>isn't horror unless
That doesn't sound like a strong requirement. Seeing a character you've grown to care for in a story (or hell, imagine experiencing it yourself) succumb to insanity spurred on by the realization of the magnitude of which life matters not and that their are beings whose indifferent actions might unmake a man can certainly be horrific.
Did they record Nick's new lines in a fucking bathroom? They fucked up the audio big time.
>>338135432
His VA Steven Russell earned a few days in the sorry room. Instead of letting him stare at the tiled walls, I thought why not have him record while he thinks twice about taking my parking spot.
>>338135247
>>338135247
>The horror comes from that fact being driven into characters skulls (usually men of learning) by eldritch terrors, not necessarily the truth itself.
That fact is already known to people. If you look at the Sun you realize that you're insignificant already. Heck, people looking at rulers or more important people realize the same. The average pleb hearing about Einstein's genius, realizes that he is an insignificant pleb in intelligence. The presence of an alien entity shouldn't be that much terrifying.
>the world literally doesn't give a fuck about your fragile, meaningless life
But why the fuck do you care about what the "world" thinks? People have always lived in the present anyway even when they are aware of far more important things happening around them.
I feel like the only people who would feel terror are the ones who are so arrogant to think they can impact the world at large and the universe. These are probably the same people who think they can kill the planet because of global warming for example. Normal people are not going to feel much terror, if any at all.
>>338135254
> Lovecraftian gods are entirely different, they are otherworldly incomprehensible entities that can genozide the whole human race for no specific reason.
But that doesn't matter unless you introduce torture for a long time or for eternity. If some powerful entity cause humanity's extermination, that's not anymore terrifying. Everything is going to end, include your life and humanity itself. No one would deny that. Theists or atheists.
>>338135303
Nah, I'm just not retarded and arrogant like you.
>>338135304
He didn't. And it's not about being macho. It's the arrogant dumbasses who think they're significant in a universe scale who will find it horrifying when their ego is brought down by an entity bigger than them or by reality.
>>338135190
If you can't get anything out of
>>338133541
then the kind of hit you over the head that's-a-scary-monster horror you're looking for comes from the abominations and space beings, like the concept of beings so fundamentally different from humans that you just use the word "gods" if you're even capable of thinking about them.
Then the understanding that this thing thinks less of you than you do of the smallest bacteria
>>338135432
Asides from Nick anyone else can go with you or they force the non companion rule in dlcs?
>>338135614
When I look at Todd Howard, I don't see a human being anymore. I see a fucking Meme. I can't help it. What the fuck.
>>338135749
You give the average person too much credit
The average person doesn't think about how they are going to die or how they are insignificant. They think about their daily lives.
Also, you're a moron if you don't think people would be afraid of death or dying.
>>338135749
>That fact is already known to people. If you look at the Sun you realize that you're insignificant already. Heck, people looking at rulers or more important people realize the same. The average pleb hearing about Einstein's genius, realizes that he is an insignificant pleb in intelligence. The presence of an alien entity shouldn't be that much terrifying.
The sun isn't sentient and Einstein for all his genius is only human. What that horror means is finding out that we are merely ants to another being which is capable of thoughts and abstracts outside our comprehension. We can comprehend the sun, we can comprehend Einstein's genius. We can never hope to comprehend these horrors in Lovecraft's works.
>>338135418
>Some people use the word humbled and view the whole exchange much more brightly than you or I.
That response doesn't make sense considering what you're replying to.
>>338135418
>. People have killed themselves over existential nihilism and some find more horror in the unknowable bearing down on them or at least they can empathize with people in Lovecraft's books rendered insane because they took a glimpse at the unknowable.
Well those people are incredibly arrogant to begin with. But I guess there's something for everyone.
>>338135418
>because they took a glimpse at the unknowable.
Except you can't empathize with those type of people. Only the arrogant and delusional would think they can know what it's like to acquire knowledge from beyond.
>>338135418
>Seeing a character you've grown to care for in a story (or hell, imagine experiencing it yourself) succumb to insanity spurred on by the realization of the magnitude of which life matters not and that their are beings whose indifferent actions might unmake a man can certainly be horrific.
Based on what common experience?
>>338135815
Don't know, just loaded up the DLC.
>>338108889
Lovecraft is good you queer dimwit,
give it a read some time or listen to the john wayne audio books
>>338120389
Herbet West: Reanimator
>>338135927
What if I think you're arrogant for being so above the entirely human sensation of horror?
>>338135914
>You give the average person too much credit
>The average person doesn't think about how they are going to die or how they are insignificant.
See this is what I was talking about: arrogance. You're so arrogant that you think the average person doesn't think about death and hasn't realized their insignificance. It's no surprise why you think Lovecraftian horror is terrifying.
>you're a moron if you don't think people would be afraid of death or dying.
You're a retard for not being able to read.
>>338135925
>>338135925
>The sun isn't sentient
It doesn't need to be in order to wipe humanity away. Besides, some used to think so.
>Einstein for all his genius is only human.
But for the average person, his intellect is incomprehensible. Now this maybe as a result of being too lazy but that's how people view someone like Einstein and his weird discoveries they can't understand (for any reason).
>What that horror means is finding out that we are merely ants to another being which is capable of thoughts and abstracts outside our comprehension
That's how humans are to lots of things in the Universe that are not known. It shouldn't make you really fearful. I mean, I guess the fear of not experiencing the amazing discoveries can be fearful, but to become a little insane? That's silly.
>We can never hope to comprehend these horrors in Lovecraft's works.
Because there is nothing to comprehend. And not knowing about them, doesn't mean you should fear them. Why bother with the unknowable?
>>338111781
I agree, Lovecraft is pretty shit.
>>338136267
>It doesn't need to be in order to wipe humanity away. Besides, some used to think so.
Are you fucking retarded? Way to go completely missing the point of my post.
>But for the average person, his intellect is incomprehensible.
But still within the confines of human limitations.
>That's how humans are to lots of things in the Universe that are not known. It shouldn't make you really fearful. I mean, I guess the fear of not experiencing the amazing discoveries can be fearful, but to become a little insane? That's silly.
Again not sentient.
>Because there is nothing to comprehend
Ability to comprehend =/= Nothing to comprehend. That was why BB was so good. Insight is a lovely way to showcase this.
Anyone want me to share my audio books?
>>338136481
please please please I'll download them all
>>338136523
alright i'll just make a mega
>>338136226
Lovecraft is pretty niche and people who claim to have existential horrors are not representative of the majority. And this board is full of social outcasts who come from a particular part of the world, so let's be honest, what is popular here =/= what's popular in the rest of the world.
Losing my dick can be pretty horrifying and I realize that fear, especially in an oversexualized society. At the same time, I think I could live with an amputation. Either way, I'll die one day and it's not like I'm going to regret what has come to pass. Any fear isn't as big as people make it out to be. There are always tricks to play on your mind to avoid a horror anyway, whether you know about those tricks or not.
When it comes to death. It's more of a liberation if there is no afteralife. If there is an afterlife, than I should be very worried. But me being amputated, should be the least of my concerns.
I took an extreme example to explain my point, but there are far more things to fear than being "insignificant".
>>338136412
>Way to go completely missing the point of my post.
Don't kid yourself, you didn't have a point. You're just rambling based on vague concepts. Your argument also assumes that being afraid of being insignificant is a self evident truth. Typical arrogance and stupidity mixed together.
No offense, but before instead of reading Lovecraft, you should read philosophy. Start with the Greeks.
>human limitations.
That varies from person to person.
>Again not sentient.
That's irrelevant.
>Ability to comprehend =/= Nothing to comprehend.
If you can't comprehend, then from your frame of reference, there is nothing for you to comprehend. Again, why worry about that which you can't understand?
>>338133639
>magic has boundaries
>>338136267
>>338135927
>>338135749
What are you flying or trying to see how long it will take for them to get bored?
>>338136406
>i've not read any lovecraft
Fixed that for you. I don't really like any lovecraft games, but i've read everything he has written, it's really good stuff.
So like the previous Bethesda games, can you pirate the DLC and play it with the Steam version?
>>338136578
You just elevated yourself above the entire board and you have the gall to call people arrogant.
holy shit, rethink your life. You're the edgiest sociopath darklord here
>>338136578
>Don't kid yourself, you didn't have a point. You're just rambling based on vague concepts. Your argument also assumes that being afraid of being insignificant is a self evident truth. Typical arrogance and stupidity mixed together.
Congrats. You linked the fear of an sentient unknown to whom you are insignificant in comparison to the fear of the fucking SUN. Sure thing bud.
>If you can't comprehend, then from your frame of reference, there is nothing for you to comprehend
When did I ever say that the reference point of comprehension was me? Just because I can't comprehend it, doesn't me there is nothing to comprehend.
>>338136663
Yes.
>>338131160
>How does Bethesda STILL not fucking understand guns??????
cause beth to lazy to deal with gun licensing bullshit so they instead make impossible shit since they think so little of their audience
>>338136523
Give it another 10 mins and i should have it up
>>338136703
I didn't claim I was better than the board when it comes about not being a social outcasts Most people here won't deny they're not representative of the majority. "Normies" is a known insult. If anything, you could take pride in being different and interpret my post as being better than the rest. Where do you think you are?
>edgiest sociopath darklord here
No, I'm just not arrogant or delusional to fear being insignificant. I already claimed, there are things to fear.
>>338136804
>>338136804
>. You linked the fear of an sentient unknown to whom you are insignificant in comparison to the fear of the fucking SUN.
Why does it matter if its' sentient or not? It's not like you're going to know about its plans. Both the Sun and whatever Chtullu is, can wipe you out. A meteor could wipe you out. There are many natural disasters that could kill you. And many of them you can't predict.
>>338136804
>Just because I can't comprehend it, doesn't me there is nothing to comprehend.
Point of reference is a human being, doesn't have to be you. Anyway, there is nothing to comprehend, so why fear it? You've been dodging that question because it shows how ridiculous the whole Lovecraftian horror is.
>>338111483
Low quality
>>338136983
sweet, and thanks.
>>338136578
>why fear what you don't understand
Because you don't understand it
People have ALWAYS feared what they don't understand
Fuck, that's basic instinct. When you see something unexpected or new you don't know what it's going to do or what to expect. That's basis for fear.
>>338136650
Yeah I'd have a hard time enjoying inspired media too if I put it on a pedestal.
>>338135927
>That response doesn't make sense considering what you're replying to.
It supports the idea that fear doesn't have to be a major component of a relationship with a god figure which you're saying is necessary.
>Except you can't empathize with those type of people...
Except (you) can't empathize with those people and that's alright. In the process leading up to a character glimpsing a Lovecraftian unknown, you might follow someone fracturing their normal relationships, dealing with the violently insane, witness the strange cults setup to worship these outer gods and at the end, a largely normal person on the outset has the rug pulled out from under him. His understanding of everything is lost. Plenty can empathize the steps leading up to recognition of the unknowable and while the unknowable itself might be lost on readers, the feeling of everything you know being wrong isn't so out of the ordinary. Imagine someone leaving an unhealthy relationship with any group that censors the outside world. Being out of your depth. That can be empathized with. The horror is more than the unknowable is my point.hmm, perhaps that's a copout from saying the unknowable is horrific?
>Based on what common experience?
Ask the readers who are a-feared of lovecraft I guess.
You know, I've never been afraid of the unknown or unknowable, but easily accepted that some might be. Now that you've made me think about, maybe the fear IS placed more in the relateable points that lead up to and proceed a character being exposed to it. I can understand fear regarding the loss of sanity...I can appreciate the gravity of indifferent gods, but the potential that there might be some eldritch truth my mind can't comprehend? Again, appreciated, but it doesn't disturb. Maybe you have a point and my knee jerk reaction was to defend an author who's literature I've only known through derivative works and a wikipedia biography.
>you kill old ones with a tiny stick in BB
>BUT CANT YOU SEE ANON ITS TOTALLY LOVECRAFTIAN SINCE THE ENEMIES HAVE "LOVECRAFTIAN DESIGNS" AND THERE IS A DAMAGE DEBUFF THATS SORT OF LIKE MADNESS :^)
Nah
>>338132992
Kill me, Pete.
>>338137479
Thats video games for you. Immeasurable power is best left to table top.
>>338137130
>People have ALWAYS feared what they don't understand
That's an overused meme in movies, tv shows and comics. People don't necessarily fear what they don't understand.
>that's basic instinct.
No. Basic instinct is curiosity. Lack of that for any reason results in frustration and perphaps sadness. Fear would come about if the thing you don't understand seems to be trying to kill you but that fear goes for anything that looks dangerous.
You fear things that look dangerous, but not all things that you don't understand are dangerous.
>>338137247
>It supports the idea that fear doesn't have to be a major component of a relationship with a god figure which you're saying is necessary.
When there is eternal damnation involved, it does. Anyway, your response doesn't make any sense. What does being humble have to do with anything? You can be humbled and still fear.
>Except (you) can't empathize with those people and that's alright.
You don't know what it's like to take a glimpse of the unknowable. You're delusional if you think you can empathize. You may felt fear reading about them going insane but that's not feeling empathy or putting yourself in their shoes when they were taking a glimpse at something unknowable.
>Plenty can empathize the steps leading up to recognition of the unknowable
Whatever is leading up to the glimpse of the unknowable can applied to anything. What you described can be the lead up to figuring out you got cancer. Of course, there are people out there who have cancer so they'll tell you that's not the case. Thus the author wouldn't be able to trick you. Instead, he has to make up some bullshit that normal people would be fearful of. And attach that to what you described when there is no reason to believe those things could be correlated. You're being tricked by the writer into thinking what glimpsing into the unknown is. He could have written anything else, and you'd be associating it that way.
Cont.
>>338137479
You kill baby ones and extremely wounded ones
https://mega.nz/#fm/KspyRaZB
This link should have the audio books
just give it 5 mins before downloading because i'm still uploading it
>>338137670
>>338137080
forgot the (You)
but yes it's done now
>>338137667
They are still old ones.
>>338137657
Explain why people are scared of moths, then. The moth can't hurt them, and they know it won't hurt them. Yet they are still scared.
Something doesn't have to be trying to kill you or be dangerous to be scary my man.
Our instincts tell us to be afraid of certain things, that's the way it goes.
I for one would be extremely scared of a godlike being such as the ones you have been discussing. There is no way to predict what it is going to do or what it wants. It might ignore me, it might kill me.
>>338137794
Babies aren't old, retard. Babies are young.
>>338134518
The first 3 zones of The Secret World also were pretty much pure Lovecraft.
>Kingsmouth Town
>Monsters from the sea
>>338136650
Please, have you ever read any Lovecraft? The dude's prose was utter shit -he was actually worse than Poe. Lovecraft had a great imagination, but wasn't much of a writer.
>>338137801
It might elevate your soul into the high realm of Memeicon IV where you can spiritually shitpost your edgy opinions of how Incomprehensible things can't be scary
>>338137247
cont.
>>338137247
>maybe the fear IS placed more in the relateable points that lead up to and proceed a character being exposed to it.
That's perhaps the case.
I think losing your mind can be very scary. Losing control of your body while being conscious can be scary. But those are separate from a glimpse of the unknowable.
As much as the human mind is limited, I think it's very flexible. For example, people can adapt to certain fear. But they can also fear something that's usually not feared either.
>>338137801
>Explain why people are scared of moths, then
Well it's called an irrational fear for a reason. Some people are afraid of having sex. Some people are afraid and think their penis is shrinking when there is nothing wrong with them (even if a doctor says so).
>>338137801
>There is no way to predict what it is going to do or what it wants. It might ignore me, it might kill me
My point is that you wouldn't be anymore afraid of that than a very powerful natural disaster and from your frame of reference and knowledge, unpredictable. What you're fearing is death, nd going insane. That being can't do to you, what you already can't do to yourself.
I'm not saying you shouldn't fear death or losing your mind. But there isn't really much to fear from the being if that's all he can do. I mean another human can kill you and drive you insane (torture, and complete dark solitary confinement with use of some drugs for a longtime can lead to that).
>>338130509
The building was physical, the rooms too. The only thing that changed was the enemy layout and the occasional force field.
>>338138065
Now you're getting it. I don't want to die or be driven insane. Thus, I can empathize with the characters in the story, and feel frightened for them.
>>338138368
Well my point is that the Chtullu thing can be substituted with an terrorist and the victims of Chtullu are now the prisoners of the terrorist.
Those people still die and can be driven insane. My point was that you don't need Chtullu for that and the glimpse of the unknown isn't really what you'll fear.
>>338112652
So you've played Far Harbor then? What did they fuck up?
>>338138504
I agree, many things could cause those same fears.
But, in my opinion, such a thing as an incomprehensible alien god is quite scary on its own.
>>338137785
hey, tried to get it working on multiple browsers on multiple devices. it just redirects me to my acct. sure the link you posted works?
>>338138606
Sure because of its power, it can be scary. But I can also see why someone would fear fist fighting a grizzly bear as well. It's instinctual fear when you "smell" something that can kill you.
It's the fear as a result of feeling insignificant that I can't accept, it comes off as pseudo-philosophical.
>>338137861
"Old one" isnt an indication of age, its a name of species.
But what else could you expect from cumguzzling sonygger, retardation.
>>338138891
I wouldn't feel insignificant, that's retarded. Everyone is already pretty insignificant, there's 6 billion of us, and it's never bothered me one bit.
I'd be more worried about what the fucking alien is going to do, and how I can get out of there
>>338137968
his prose is definitelt prose-like in its lack of cadences but he's a terrific writer.
You're being the literary equivalent of a Polygon editor.
>>338139167
>I wouldn't feel insignificant, that's retarded. Everyone is already pretty insignificant, there's 6 billion of us, and it's never bothered me one bit.
Well apparently, afraid of being insignificant in the universe, being a small speck, etc... is the appeal of Lovecraftian horror.
>>338133543
Demanding realistic expectations from fucking LOTR? Idk how far you'll get with that anon
>>338139167
>if there was an alien I would be like the doomguy and like kill them lol
If a species was capable of making the interstellar trip across lightyears -
well I'll just stop here
YOU WOULD BE FUCKED
F U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D
DEAD KABLOOM DONE, worship the aliens and hope for mercy, maybe they're benevolent and they'll impart some of their eldritch wisdom upon you.
>>338139252
Maybe you're misinterpreting it.
It's not about realizing that you're insignificant and being terrified of that.
It's more like realizing that you're insignificant to all these crazy powerful aliens who could care less about you.
Like being an ant trapped in a tapdancing festival. You're very likely to get squished.
>>338108889
MORE LIKE FART HARBOR MIRITE?
>>338139459
When did I say I'd try to kill it? I would run away or die if anything
>>338130674
Hey faggot, want to know exactly what it is you're denouncing in this post? Cultural marxism and communist egalitarianism, which is the exact same shit people complain about /pol/ for.
>>338139601
whoops I'm retarded, been shitposting for awhile so I'm running on fumes here.
>>338139534
>It's not about realizing that you're insignificant and being terrified of that.
>It's more like realizing that you're insignificant to all these crazy powerful aliens who could care less about you.
That line is thin. If you're afraid of being squashed because you're insignificant to X, then you're afraid of being insignificant.
Like I said, replace X with terrorist holding you captive with no way out. The result of you being killed and driven insane before your death remains the same. Others in the thread have made it seems as if humans or the individual being insignificant in the world is what's the biggest fear.
>>338130617
>cat named Nigger-man
Wait so is the dlc bad or alright? I was planning on getting it but if its shit then ill just keep monz
>>338111483
Not all the time.
>>338108889
I'm actually quite enjoying this, more than any FO3 DLC
>>338120389
I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
>>338139459
You underestimate the potential of the human spirit and the power of friendship.
>>338137657
I haven't been part of your dissertation-length argument but fear of the unknown is common knowledge. People have always been scared or tense around things they haven't experienced before. If I need to explain this, I dunno what to say. I don't think you can reasonably convince anyone of otherwise
>>338140342
Then follow the conversation or don't bother replying.
>People have always been scared or tense around things they haven't experienced before
Tense? Yes. Scared? Not necessarily. Horrified to the point of losing their mind? No.
>>338140435
Lol dude, I don't have to read all that shit if I see you made a specific point wrong. I'm only addressing that one point b/c it sticks out like a sore thumb. Just trying to help you out
>>338140314
>Amygdala-kun... why blow up the Earth for your entertainment?
>I always wanted to be yourfriend.
>>338140630
You lack to context to know what the point is related to. Anyway, it's not even wrong on its own since I wasn't denying that people can be afraid after seeing something they don't understand. I was denying that something not understandable is inherently causing always causing.
>>338140435
>>People have always been scared or tense around things they haven't experienced before
>Tense? Yes. Scared? Not necessarily. Horrified to the point of losing their mind? No.
I think you're splitting hairs. Everyone has fear of the unknown and the whole point of the Cthulhu mythos is that it's ramped 1000% so its like breaking a dam in your mind with fear causing insanity.
Is there a complete bloodborne version with old hunters already?
Missed out.
>>338140435
The losing their minds part is just regular old ptsd paranoia and depression
>>338142132
Yes the GOTY edition.
>>338142132
not unless you're a nip
better go buy it
>>338111148
The Soul Carne in Dawnguard architecture is stolen from The Mountains Of Madness.
And then Hermaeus Mora and his realm was literally Lovecraft: The DLC
Do some people really play the Survival mode without Fast travel/Manual saving mod?
>>338140930
You're a twat. Nothing interesting will ever come out of your existence and it will die away having accomplished nothing. Ironic since your convictions lie in stupidly misunderstanding cosmic horror.
That said is there really no Lovecraft shit in this DLC? Is it seriously just fish dudes? Was thinking about buying.
>>338142750
I meant that twat remark for the tool who doesn't get Lovecraft shit. Sorry.
>>338131015
>>338131669
Are you thinking about the leviathan by any chance?
>>338108889
DUDE ANONYMOUS IMAGEBOARD HIVEMIND OPINIONS LMAO
you must have an incredibly sad existence if you all try so hard to impress a bunch of faggots you'll never ever know. How does it feel to be such fucking losers?
>>338110413
Heres your (You) bethesdafriend.
DCotE 2 when
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