What is thr point in inverting your axis?
>>338098971
PC mouse conditioning.
>>338098971
>>338099186
Who inverts their mouse?
>>338099285
people who play flying games and fps.
I always invert both on the controller. Never inverted my mouse though.
>>338099285
I meant that pulling back on the mouse is down,I invert the axis so the joystick is the same.
>>338099368
>inverting your mouse for FPS
Bullshit, who does this
Its dumb
>not pushing up to look up
Literally backwards retards
using this logic you would invert your y axis as well
>>338098971
>>338098971
I play all my FPS games with the y-axis inversion turned on.
I traced it back, and I'm 95% sure it's because of Pilotwings 64. We got that game with the N64 at launch and it was the first game I played in 3D space. In case you haven't played the games, it's just a bunch of different flight simulators and they're all inverted by default.
I played COD for a while in college with my roommates and he would play inverted while I played traditional, and I eventually got used to it, but I definitely default to invert.
>using WASD
TDGJ Master Race
>>338098971
I've heard a bunch of different justifications for using inverted but the way I see it is:
>It's like I'm holding his head, I move my hand back to make him look up.
>It's not up or down, it's forward and backward, forward is down and backward is up.
>It's a third person camera, I'm panning the camera down in order to look up
VS
>I press up to look up
You're making shit way more complicated than it needs to be. If you have to explain why it's not retarded there's a decent chance it's retarded.
>>338098971
>tfw a lot of modern fps games give you the option invert Y-axis but not the X-axis
For what reason?
>>338098971
>What is thr point in inverting your axis?
Inverted is if you feel like you're controlling the character and not inverted is if you feel like you're controlling a cursor
Inverted for 3rd person makes sense if you think of it as controlling the position of the camera rather than the view of the character
I used to invert for 3rd person but I switched to standard after too many games I played didn't even give the option for inversion
Now I'm so used to standard I can't play inverted anymore
Honestly it's just really annoying, I wish the industry would adopt a standard and stick with it, for the sake of my sanity
wat r u casul
>>338098971
God didn't intend for this as it's unnatural, you abomination.
>>338100563
Why are you holding your controller backwards?
I invert mouse and controller. It's from playing Wing Commander, X-Wing, Tie Fighter and Descent when I was younger. Basically, it's because of flight games. I can't get myself to not invert.
I pick whatever feels best for the specific game. I find it to vary. At least when its a controller based game.
For mouse I always keep not inverted
>>338100563
lewd
>>338098971
for 3rd person operation of fly by wire systems
>>338101071
>Descent
That fucking classic
>>338100925
Either adopt a standard or always give you the option to fully invert controls. I played jrpgs that would have default inverted y and x axis. Then I'd play a shooter with only the option to invert the y axis. Shit just got really confusing.
>>338098971
>playing FPS with analogue sticks
>>338101071
>Descent
Holy shit, you just overloaded the nostalgia hemisphere of my brain. Totally forgot about this game.
>>338100441
I dont need to make it complicated. I just got used to it playing third person gsmes where its like im controlling the camera instead so invert everything just feels more comfortable for everything now. Games that dont at least give the option for it are horse shit
>>338102767
god dammit
>>338102767
>>>/reddit/
>>338098971
okay,
lets continue using your reasoning
>Jump
>press a buttonyou are using your method of controller as a object to dictate actions, not to emulate actions. So you press a button to jump/reload/punch instead of causing some kind of action to emulate those actions. So pressing up on a controller to look up is the only correct way. you have to dictate that the direction you wish the game to look, not emulate
>>338099368
>fps.
what >>338099613 said
i know literally no one who inverts their mouse for a game, let alone an FPS
>using a controller
>>338103237
Yeah I dont get why humans need controllers to play their games
Invert your axis I don't give a fuck. I only invert when I play ace combat.
But inverted only makes sense if you invert the Y-axis AND the X-axis.
>>338101071
This is my exact reason too. Flight games when young, and it carried over to other games.
i only invert in third person
>>338100763
because inverting x is retarded
>>338098971
when you look up your neck is pulling down
you don't control your head movements with your head, you control it with your neck, so the movement of the head should be mapped to the way your neck muscles interact with your head
>tilt knob back
>witnesses this impeccable 5
>>338103845
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>338103102
>face looks up
>pressing up isn't emulating the action
Okay buddy.
>>338103102
Pseudo intellectual autism.
>>338103845
>>338103845
Witnessed
>>338103845
>>338103845
well, fuck me
>Inverted Y axis on controller
>normal for Mouse
I can't be the only one right?
>>338103845
Amazing.
>>338103845
It's over.
Bless me with a 5
What is there even to discuss? People like different things. I press up/move mouse up to look up and I dont really care how other people do it.
It's like having a debate about how right handed is better than left handed.
>>338103845
Nice
Inverted X master race.
>>338103845
>>338098971
with this setup then stick left/right should be lean left/right
>>338104156
Well, it's definitely more convenient to be right handed.
>>338103845
nice
>you move the mouse with your right hand
>if you had an actual gun, your right hand would be on the trigger, and your left hand would be in front
>to point the gun up, you would lower your right hand
>to point the gun down, you would raise your right hand
I think this is it
![JOEL[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0Q7y1H5.png "JOEL[1].png")
>>338103845
Alright
game feel
>>338103845
but how?
>>338104325
>you lower your hand to point up
Are you retarded?
>>338104293
That's only because it's more common for equipment and standards to focus on being righthanded. In this case it's equally easy to set up different modes.
I can work with both desu senpai
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>>338104182
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>>338104441
At least six of these are samefags.
I had to train myself to not invert the axis way back. My buddies and I would switch back and forth on the controller, and I would be the only one who would invert. Was a pain to quit out just to change; so I sucked shit for about a month on any first-person game.
>>338104293
Being left handed leaves you prone to schizophrenia and other crippling mental issues. But if you're lucky enough to not be affected by them, you're ensured an above average salary and improved mental faculties.
>>338103845
witness this fucking 4
>>338104824
HAHAHA OH MAN
>>338104824
this thread must be blessed
>>338104498
In case you're that retarded desu
>>338104579
Impressive.
>>338104579
>this butthurt
>>338104824
NOICE
>>338104767
Correlation =/= causation. Yes, being lefthanded is associated with greater rates of certain diseases and certain benefits, but it's not clear why, and it's certainly not just using the left hand, since you see similar rates in people who were originally left handed but forced to use their right hands exclusively.
>>338098971
Preference.
>>338103845
>>338104824
i PRESS THE CONTROL STICK DOWN SO I LOOK UP AND CHECK THIS 6
>>338098971
WALKING A PERSON IS JUST LIKE FLYING A PLANE!@!!!
>he rationalizes inverting the controls on an FPS because it's "realistic" and it's "how you move your head in real life"
>he only inverts up and down, not left and right
If you do this, please kill yourself.
>>338098971
>FPS with a controller
>FPS on a console
>>338105051
There is no need to be upset about your lack of digit-calling skill.
>>338105051
It probably didn't happen because you use inverted controls
>>338104914
Holy shit, anon is actually a cthulu worshipping spaghetti monster, no wonder he inverts his controls
>>338105143
lets seee
i move the controll stick up to check these
>>338105326
blessed
>>338105326
You're embarassing yourself, invert nerd.
>>338105326
See what happens when you don't invert
>>338104914
This is not how aiming works.
>>338105149
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>>338105326
I PRESS UP AND DOWN AT THE SAME TIME TO LOOK ABOVE ME TO CHECK THIS 5
>>338105592
Stop at any time.Perhaps this is the 5 you're looking for?
>>338105707
>filthy spellsteal thought he could take my5
blah blah blah check my 3
>>338105567
I do not understand why this is a topic anyone actually gives enough of a shit to argue about?
Why do you care if someone plays inverted or not?
It's not even like it's a conscious choice, I play inverted because that's apparently how my brain decided to interpret analog stick controls.
One is not "better" than the other.
Who gives a shit.
>>338105538
explain pls
Skeletons will stalk you if you check this 9.
>>338098971
>Look Down
>A fuck ton of fps games don't show the character's legs/feet
I always hated that shit, I'm not playing as fucking floating camera with arms.
>>338099724
How severe does ones autism need to be to even come up with this insane example. Ive seen it posted for years and the logic continues to escape me.
>>338105945
There's this thing on the top of guns known as "sights". You have to look down those sights in order to aim. Otherwise you only have a vague idea of where your bullets are gonna go.
>>338104824
>>338103845
You're pretty good.
>>338104824
>>338103845
witness my 9 bros
>>338098971
Have any of you guys played Fur Fighters on PS2? Let me tell you, that guy who decided that RIGHT thumbstick is move/strafe and LEFT thumbstick is the look/turn should hang themshelves.
I work as a real pilot so inverted feels more natural.
>>338105931
>inverted shits are the only ones saying it doesn't matter
Who would have guessed
>>338098971
Wouldn't his mean that you¨also look left when you push the stick to the right?
my switch to inverted was so fucking weird. I was at my friends house playing Halo 2 and was too lazy to switch the inversion, and I've been playing inverted ever since. It feels so natural now
>>338106732
moving the mouse left/right should make him lean then
INVERTED MUSTER RACE
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>>338102767
fucking retard, swap panels 2 and 3
>>338107217
move your mouse left and right right now. you will notice you are not perfectly sliding it to the left or right but rather just pivoting your hand around your wrist. If you had an ungodly, demon like wrist you could create a full circle with this motion.
>>338103845
>>338103845
Banned card desu senpai.
>>338103845
kys my Yugimans
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>>338107627
>just pivoting your hand around your wrist
But that's wrong you fuck.
>>338099613
I watched a youtube channel a while back of a guy who mouse inverts X AND Y
>>338098971
Y axis yes, but in the Z wich is the one that the camera looks its inverted.
>stick
I don't use a remote control to aim a gun in real life, console kids. I hold something in my hand and move it around. You know, kind of... like... A MOUSE?
>>338100963
>Doom
>Mouse aim up/down
>>338106732
>>338098971
This simulated movement argument only works if you also invert X axis.
Just having Y axis inverted is absolutely retarded with the sole exception of flight controls.
u
>>338109920
That part isn't about Doom
>>338103102
The trigger buttons are quite literally shaped like triggers to simulate pulling a trigger
>>338104006
That's the correct way friend.
Inverting a mouse feels like holding it upside down
>>338109604
How the fuck do you use a mouse? do you lift your whole hand and slide it left to right asshole?
>>338103845
>>338103845
>45 45 45
>>338103845
whoa
>>338104824
Nice 4. How do you like mine?
>>338103845
>>338104824
>>338114734
Noice
>>338099972
underrated
It is amazing to me that I can play any game with a mouse and never invert it, but as soon as I touch a controller if I don't invert the vertical axis I struggle to play well.
