Do we still need game's journalists?
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Why do we need them? What do they add to the industry? They're clearly out of touch with those they are supposed to inform
>>338073580
sounds like someone needs to git gud
>>338073580
Well he's not wrong. You can be shit at videogames and still have fun. However, if you're ruining everyone else's fun by being shit (dragging your team down, etc), you should fully expect people to be annoyed at you for ruining their fun.
Remember that fucking article about a guy who needed 5min per mob in BB or DaS3 and was claiming that game is bad because you need a "privilege of time" to play it?
This article would have instantly been considered satire 10 years ago.
>>338073580
If you are shit at games, play easy games or with other shitty players.
>You don't need to be good at games to enjoy them
Then why do reviewers complain so much about difficulty?
I'm not sure if they write this kind of stuff for hits or just to convince themselves that being shit at video games is okay.
>>338073580
It looks like part of the game journalists plot to throw away games like Sonic, a game in which you should "git gud" in favor of replacing it with something like "Last of Us" or "Life is Strange", two cinematic experiences about "muh feels"
>>338073830
Yeah, femhype. Funny thing about these kinds of articles is that they're oblivious to how privileged they actually are and of they want to be taken seriously as games journalists then they should be better than average.
>we should end a stupid meme falsely being used as an argument in internet discussions
I agree.
>you dont need to be good at games to enjoy them
This is clearly true as well.
What are you getting outraged about?
>>338073580
Are you saying that every person that plays video games only wants for video games that are difficult? Or, at least, that every person that plays videos games only wants for video games that require a certain mastery?
Op here, I wasn't really focusing on the lack of skill, I meant this more as another example of how shit game's journalists are. It probably would have been better to have used gamer gate as an example
Reminder this guy wrote an article about how bosses shouldn't be mandatory in games because he couldn't beat the first one in Hyper Light Drifter (and stopped playing because of it)
>>338073580
Game journalists is a profession that just needs to go the way of the dodo, but unfortunately it wont because there are too many dumb fucks on this planet.
He's not wrong desu. I'm not good at RTSs but I still enjoy them very much. The only time competency should really matter when evaluating a game is when you incompetence prevents you from making meaningful insight. Such as not being able to access content, or not being able to accurately comment on the state of balance.
>>338073580
>Let me review cars
>2/10
>This car was a manual, and I can't drive stick
>Skill shouldn't be required to review cars
>>338074140
Thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to say
Have games journalists always been shit at video games? If not, then where did the ones who could actually play video games go?
I think becoming a games journalist is like becoming a comic writer. You couldn't hack it at real journalism or writing, despite how low hanging those fruits are, so they go for the fruits that have already fallen off the tree and started to rot.
>>338073580
Well he's right, you don't need to be good to enjoy a game, however it will limit how much of a game you can actually play
Did we ever?
No, Video Game "Journalism" Is Over.
>>338073580
>Why do we need them?
We never did and never will.
Form your own opinion. Play a demo. If the game doesn't have a demo, pirate and buy if you like it.
>>338073580
It's pleasant looking a dumpster fire, even if the smell is bad.
Most of their traffic is hate clicks.
Their remaining sycophant twitter followers are aspiring gamejos themselves looking to take their jobs, OR game devs looking for free shills.
The pay is shit, and the perks have dried up.
Anyone that hasn't jumped shipped to PR in the industry proper is either under-qualified, retarded or both.
>Every game must be the same and pander to me
>But games should promote diversity
>>338073773
Thing is though, usually when you are playing with shitters it's because YOU need to git gud.
>>338073580
>gaming journalism
Just ignore it. JUST IGNORE IT.
If I had Godly influence I would command you sheeple to JUST IGNORE IT.
>>338074068
It's more about people not wanting every game to cater to shitters, every time a hard game comes out we get at least one article saying the game needs to be easier.
They can have fun however they want but they need to stop pushing their cinematic experiences as the best games that all other games need to be.
We don't need them. We don't need critics either.
We only need people to judge and figure shit out for themselves.
He's right, there are plenty of easy games that are a blast to play. I just finished Uncharted 4 and loved it.
But if a game is too much for you either git gud or play something else there is no reason for this shit.
>>338073580
>John Walker played Stellaris for 30 minutes and then quit because he couldn't handle tutorial popups
>he's also a cuck
who cares what he has to say?
>>338073580
>of late
>We totally didn't call out our friends for sucking at super mario bros
>>338073580
>just because I can't drive for shit doesn't mean I can't review cars
>just because I can't cook for shit doesn't mean I can't review cooking ingredients
>just because I can't play the guitar for shit doesn't mean I can't review cars
Video games are not music. You can't just write a bullshit review about how they make you "feel" and how interesting the it is that they only wear red, white, and black, and how you heard a rumor that they're brother and sister and married, ect. Video game consumers will call you out on that because, only music consumers, they actually care about their medium and don't just consume shit to look cool.
butts
>>338074246
>where did the ones who could actually play video games go?
PC Zone was ended in 2010, and by fucking Christ do I miss those magnificent bastards.
They took absolutely no shit from anyone, developer or publisher. 50% was seen as "dead centre", were consistently hilarious and they called it right down the line. Professional and funny.
Why did it have to die?
>>338073580
This is the faggot who wrote the article.
What do you expect from numale cuckolds? They're SJWs because they compensate for being unfuckable, uneducated trash. While neckbeards get autistic about their hobby, these faggots whine and simper about being more "open" and "progressive" because they're pussies. They want to attract women by being the safe, "nice guy" soft blob of a pussy, and get uppity when you laugh at them.
They don't want to git gud, because it's too hard for them.
>>338073580
I assume this piece is in defence of the whole Polygon thing because if so they aren't doing shit for fun IT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT COMPETENT AT THEIR FUCKING JOBS.
>>338074417
Op here, it's kinda hard to ignore it when they bully games from being released because of their "sexist" content
>>338073580
>Why do you need to study to become a doctor, everyone should have equal opportunities to get the job regardless of knowledge or experience shitlord
They dont want to spend time mastering a game, this is the age of instant gratification and political correctness, were you cant tell someone he's inept/bad because that hurts their feelings.
>>338073580
Now everyone should make an account or whatever and spam that retarded shit with "git gud"
Just sayin
>>338074068
Because he's not saying that, he's saying games should not require skill and that they should all be cinematic experiences from now on
>>338073580
link
>>338073580
> Cooking
> You don't need to be able to cook to enjoy food
> Microwave dishes and frozen oven pizzas are also enjoyable
Elitism is almost always better than the opposite. Striving to become better is the only way one can ever come close to fully appreciating what you are doing. Doing something half-assed will always be a lot worse.
Let's just make all games press f to win.
>>338073580
You indeed don't need to be good at games to enjoy it.
When you play games with friends, even if you lose or keep dying, you're still having a good time if the people you play with are really your friends. Relax, it's a toy.
>suck at games
>instead of getting good or playing another game, bitch on a glorified blog that's been hemorrhaging viewers for years
>>338074545
I agree with most of your points but you really need to proofread your posts
>>338074068
The point of the article is suggesting that games should progressively cater to less skilled players and offer less exclusive content to higher skilled players. Its not saying less skilled players don't enjoy games, its trying to suggest that they should remove harder difficulties and content that would normally only be accessible by good players.
>>338074730
>Elitism is almost always better than the opposite.
Yeah, for the small minority which belongs. For the whole community, its worse.
>>338074618
Could someone please translate this from /pol/ to English?
>A really unpleasant gaming trend is getting louder and louder of late
What the FUCK.
OF LATE?
How old are you dude!
We were constantly shit talking each others lack of skills regarding certain games back in the day? Did you not go to an arcade growing up? Did you not have sleepovers? What about college could you not stop sucking dick long enough to pick up a controller?
>>338073929
Not really. "Git gud" is literally a meme. That it's replaced decent suggestions in any major manner is ludicrous.
>caring what Sensitive John Walker has to say
>ever
>>338074248
Minority you say. In my opinion we are what we always were. It's them who seek the money, attention and now "equality" in every possible field.
So now, we have "gamers" and people who actually play games. I would rather not mix those two groups.
>>338074639
Better a jackass than a failure.
>>338074006
Holy shit, that makes too much sense. They did the same for Megaman too.
>>338074908
How?
>louder and louder of late
it's been that way since arcades
that's why they had scoreboards
fucking idiots
>>338074102
Some are good, some are bad. It's like any other field of journalism. Its not like investigative journalism has been spectacular over the decade and a half. Do we really need sports journalists? Do we really need film and art critics? No, not really, but they do provide an opinion that, whether you like it or not, shapes some aspects of the field they are writing about, and sometimes other fields if the argument is more inclusive. They vocalize an opinion that has importance. Their importance is apparent solely because it comes from a consumer of the field. They don't need to represent any group of persons that plays video games. That's why you pick and chose between journalists that you share opinions and affinity of interests over those that don't share your like-minded interests
>you will never be so butthurt about opinions that you try to stop others from publishing their opinions while you yourself claim to like freespeech
>>338075020
What do you mean "how"?
For any X, if only 2% of people have access to it, its clearly not the best case for the whole community.
>>338074006
I don't hang around /v/ much, but I'm not the only one who thought "Last of Us" was dogshit, right?
>>338073580
>mfw terrible at almost every game I play
>still have fun
It took me 100 hours to pass Dark souls the first time I played it. I played most of it with around 10% health because Curse stack and I didn't have internet to update. I couldn't figure out how to heal curse.
>>338074753
>It's a toy
This is the mentality that's going to kill our hobby. Obviously videogames aren't the most important shit in the world but I'd really like to keep getting challenging shit like darkest dungeon, battle fleet gothic, xcom and even the new DOOM instead of everything being uncharted.
If you really don't care that's cool but in twenty years I don't want everything to be interactive movies so for now yelling at these numales that their opinion is shit is the most I can do.
is no one going to ask why the picture for this article is a wooden spoon?
>>338074176
>driving too fast is scary, why do manufacturers make cars that go above 60mph?
>tfw remember when RPS was good
>alec meer, jim rossignol, quintin smith (fuck you for that new vegas review though) and heck even john walker were all right
>alec barely does articles
>instead it's tons of freelancers there temporarily or alice o'connor/philippa warr doing buzzfeed style articles
This is what happens when the 20-something crowd who gave us great games journalism become middle aged wankstains. There's not enough new blood in the industry so we're stuck with this shit.
>>338073580
I agree. Too many retards here think if you aren't MLG pro or don't have asperations of being the best ever at a game, you shouldn't play them at all, as if games are for boosting your ego and not for fun and recreation
>>338073580
Sounds like somebody is bad at videogames.
>>338073580
>walker
what a surprise...
>>338073580
"We" don't need them, largely because we have the same access to promotional materials as they do and a luxury of time to evaluate them in an unprocessed format. Same way as people who are plugged into the movie industry don't have much to gain paying attention to shit rags like EW or TMZ.
However, the unwashed masses who don't have the time or inclination to sift through all the meaningless bullshit still need someone to inform them of what's happening in the gaming hobby. Until people stop following game journalism because it no longer informs them, it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
And let's not forget that as useless game journalism is, it still engages in SOME groundwork that can't be accomplished by watching Twitter feeds and reddit AMAs. They stage interviews, preview upcoming vidya, and yes, review games viewers don't want to commit to purchase without third party verification.
Really the only people they're out of touch with are the people who don't use them like us, which is kind of the point, isn't it?
Who else in here knows how it feels to git gud?
>>338074417
Games are crucial part of my life since I remember. Call me a loser or whatever, that's the truth and at least I admit it. It's hard to ignore something that fucks up with your more-than-hobby. Not that I care that much but it's pretty sad and sometimes irritating.
>>338075064
What the shit? Dark souls isn't that hard if you have to do shit over and over again till you think there is some conspiracy behind it you might be retarded.
>>338075148
It is a sony exclusive so... you can guess.
"git gud" is literally just 2010s-speak for calling someone a noob. basically the exact same sentiment. why do these carebears get so triggered.
>>338074963
There's not really much else to be said when the hundredth guy comes complaining about getting hit in Dark Souls or Monster Hunter. Just get better at dodging and timing your hits, i.e. git gud.
>>338073580
He's not wrong. I'm terrible at video games but I have fun playing me them. What's wrong is him writing about pointless shit.
>>338074479
Stellaris is kinda shallow and bad, though.
>>338075189
Because the author's parents beat him with a wooden spoon whenever his report card wasn't straight A's.
>>338075285
>There's no minor details or clues, etc
yes there is, though
>>338073580
I thought /v/ would be defending this guy since /v/ can't get good at Star Fox Zero
what a fag
>>338073580
He's right, sorry.
I don't agree with art criticism out of general principle as value is inherently subjective. However, videogaming is the one medium where I don't mind it, because there is often a trend towards consensus (not actual, objective consensus, just a trend) that allows for recommendations to be useful. That is, my experience could be like that of the reviewer's, unlike say, an album, or a painting, or a book. An unwieldy camera system is going to piss off a lot of people, chances are myself included.
That said, I think most journalists are shit. I don't say this to be a contrarian douche or swing my e-peen around, it's just that most reviewers kind of suck at games. That Polygon Doom fiasco is one in a sea of thousands. I'll watch a kart racing review and notice that the reviewer is always trailing in the mid pack. At the end of the day, how they feel about the game won't be too relevant to me, because I'm going to have an inherently different experience with the game than they do. The game will be less difficult for me to play. I don't really read reviews any more, but if I did, I'd try to keep an eye out for reviewers who were a lot like myself. Jeremy Parish used to be on 1Up.com and I'd listen to his opinion because he had a genuine, lifelong interest in gaming -- he'd mention importing Symphony of the Night as a kid to play on his PS1.
>>338074282
Yes, print game rags use to be awesome. But they never pretended to be anything more than a part of the fandom, or straight up marketing materials tied directly to the publishers.
Anytime a gamejo claims to be part of "the industry" I can't help but grip my sides as to what they're implying... It's an attempt to elevate their role but unknowingly they admit to being part of the marketing machine.
No film critic claims to be part of the film industry, what fucking lunacy.
>>338075174
>If you really don't care that's cool but in twenty years I don't want everything to be interactive movies
by "Toy" you understood all that?
>You don't need to be good at games to enjoy them
No, but you do if you claim to be some kind of authority on them.
>>338073580
>don't feel bad that you suck and do nothing to improve, in fact let's get rid of the idea that being competent is good
Losers and their tears...
Is this how fit people who've worked their ass off for it feel when fat people call them privileged?
>>338073580
retarded article, faggot needs to git gud and quit bitching when called out on being a shitter.
I am of the idea that you need to have some level of cognition and skill to accurately depict how good or bad a game is.
Like the guy who played Doom for polygon was fucking pathetic, I can't imagine him accurately reviewing anything in single player seeing how awful he was.
I mean the dude was shooting healthpacks and couldn't turn and shoot at the same time.
>>338075285
>I guess that's what separates most of us from Kotaku
>>338075174
It is a toy, not an artform. Its purpose is to entertain
>>338074559
Money.
>>338073580
I really question as to how many of these journalists have had any hobbies prior to their current""""""""""""""""""""""job"""""""""""""""".
You got shit talked regardless of what you were doing; sports band, any club with a competitive aspect. You don't need to be good at basketball to enjoy them, but when you brick a shot for the 12th time in a row people are going to laugh at you.
>>338073773
Even then you're making vido games worse for others, because if the audience is full of lame fucks, games will be adjusted to suit their stunted abilities.
It's gotten to the point where it's not marketable to make a game complex enough to warrant a tutorial level because spastic ADHD can't can't stand that shit. They need to feel they've aced the game after a 3 minute intro sequence.
>>338075457
Dark Souls is hard. You have an easy time because you're just that skilled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
>'git good' such an attitude reveals narrowmindedness in gaming and humanity
lol, and not war slavery and all the back of the closet blood deals? but your problem is with games??
yeah we don't need vidya journalists anymore.
also telling someone to get good is encouragement to not be shit.
>>338075645
Cool, I want my form of entertainment (Games considered kind of hard) to stick around and for not everything to be castrated for shitters so I have nothing to play.
I don't know what it being entertainment has to do with anything.
dark soul is a shit game though. people meme like crazy the "gitgud" shtick but it doesn't change the literal fact that the controls are sub-par, and the hitboxes pure garbage. It's just fucking mediocre at the very best.
>all games should be open to everyone
Good idea. While we're at it, all books should be written in pre-school level .
>>338075645
>literally not knowing what art is
kys
>>338075174
Challenging games are still toys. You seem to bringing some pre-conceived notions to the table.
>>338074559
>pczone
>>338075681
I don't understand how people can get this mad at a single player game.
Do RPS come out and say this article is about that Polygon video of someone being shit at video games when their job is in part to play video games?
Spoon thread?
>>338075681
>Story is non-existent
This guy legit needs everything spoon-fed or he doesn't get it. The fact that he says soloing a raid is hard means he's also a fucking moron.
>>338075760
>hard
pff, nobody lose at dark soul because of anything hard. You see the tells miles way, you only lose becaue you are slow as shit and the enemies have a priority on all the time, with massive shockwaves and the option to rotate mid animation if you move away without a roll
>>338074426
The article has nothing to do with games becoming simpler. It's solely about not criticizing journalists and potentially any other demographic because they're awful at games.
>>338074697
>Confirmed illiteracy
>>338076024
haha good one /b/
>>338076024
This is /b/ tier shit, why you dont post the "make your own crystals" too?
>>338075915
>got the mag pulled from WH Smith
>>338075681
>I Suck at this game so it's terrible and if you disagree you're a nerd!
Hue
>>338073580
>Why do we need them? What do they add to the industry?
better yet, why are you talking about them since you know they add nothing to the equation?
>>338076000
This is about John Walker being shit at Hyper Light Drifter.
>>338075064
>game literally let's other players do all the work for you
Literally the only people who complain about Dark Souls being impossible either have never played it or never bothered learning the basic mechanics.
>>338076024
spooning thread?
This is real
Proof that critics are trying to put Sonic away, which they have done with games like Megaman
"Get good" implies that goodness > badness. That success is dependent on effort. That there's a "right" way and a "wrong" way.
Every single one of these concepts is an anathema to a modern leftist. They aren't joking when they equate meritocracy to racism and any and all success to privilege. I'm personally shocked the author of the article didn't imply that "git gud" is a racial slur. They're that hellbent on controlling the dialogue and structure of communication.
>>338075724
That's only a problem if all you consume are AAA games made to pander to the lowest common denominator. The market isn't some homogenized mass that abides to the will to the general consumer to the exclusion of everyone else, it's a mess of different subcultures each pandering to sometimes very specific interests. Yeah, it kinda sucks that gaming has stopped focusing on us specifically, but it's not like there's any shortage of games to play that may tickle MY fancy. They're just not coming from major publishers with major mass media fanfare anymore. The corporate giants have moved on to more lucrative territory.
>>338076024
I don't get it.
>>338076286
>not being the big spoon
What fresh hell faggotry is this?
>>338075285
I don't like DS. But it doesn't mean the game is bad. I can see why you guys enjoy it so much and I can spot some objectively good design ideas in it. Why would I demand that DS should cater to my taste? I just switched to a different game and had fun with it. Is it really so complicated?
>>338076446
Because he's clearly dead
>>338076330
please go back to /pol/
>>338075343
I reloaded against the first knight to practice parrying and got pretty done with the game. Finished through Capra Demon, got to Gaping, got tossed back like 100ft. off a ledge (probably a glitch).. figured I was exploring more than I was actually engaged with anything, so I quit. Still no reinstall. The game's not that active, and it's not that fun.
These types of reviewers and journalists and pundits and whatever have always been around on the fringes of other genres. There have been people whining about pointless shit in films for decades but they never get mainstream.
What is it about video games that let them get to the mainstream of that genre?
This is true, but you can't deny that some games are built around certain mechanics that time time to master, and infinitely increase your pleasure once you do.
The only real problem here is people reviewing or bashing games based on their inability to master a certain mechanic which the game is built around.
>>338076024
Post the responses of people doing this.
>>338076024
How does that hurt/kill me? Hot steam?
>>338076409
FUCKING PISSED!
>>338075452
>However, videogaming is the one medium where I don't mind it, because there is often a trend towards consensus (not actual, objective consensus, just a trend) that allows for recommendations to be useful. That is, my experience could be like that of the reviewer's, unlike say, an album, or a painting, or a book. An unwieldy camera system is going to piss off a lot of people, chances are myself included.
Do you read a lot of art, film, music, or literary criticism? Because the same thing you are talking about with video games is very much there in all of those fields. There are particular formal, stylistic, and content based information that critics lean towards, no matter the field. I'm having a hard time believing you've given every other medium a fair chance as a result of your position that as a result of a criticism being subjective, it is thus pointless.
Obviously it is subjective, I don't even understand the importance of that argument anymore. Why would you even take the time to write what you just wrote if everything is completely subjective? People do have shared experiences, emotions, and tastes. If everything was so purely subjective, as you state, we would have a very difficult time getting pleasure from anything that someone else has created.
>>338076057
How convenient.
>>338076450
This is no place for reason, you maniac.
>>338073580
If it's multiplayer and you are being shit but enjoying the game, you're still making everyone else playing not enjoy it.
If it's single player, the only time anyone will tell you to 'git gud' is if you're complaining about the game being too hard or unfair, in which case you're clearly not enjoying the game since you're bad at it.
>>338076528
>everyone that disagrees with me is /pol/
Classical Memeing.
>>338076574
Just tried it, it made a rainbow. Pretty cool but a waste of time and spoons
>>338076213
>at first I thought it's probably good since it costs so much
I wonder what it's like to be this retarded.
>>338076717
Just post the responses so I can laugh.
How can people be bad at video games? You keep trying and trying and trying until you get it, it works on pretty much every single game(theres bound to be a few that are impossible unless you're gifted).
Fair enough if you're shit at pvp or something team related but you keep trying.
>>338073773
>You can be shit at videogames and still have fun.
The game stops being fun when you realize you can't play the way it's mean to be played, you're doing worse.
>>338076520
Irrelevant.
>>338075165
If you finished the game like that you're probably better than most of the fanbase spouting "git gud" in the first place
>>338075145
But the experience is rewarding as a result of the effort it takes to reach it. If anything, we're in a better time for it than ever. You can have someone else cook you a 3 michelin star meal. Or you can use the internet to learn to cook godlike food yourself.
Same goes for vidya. You can use youtube/twitch/whatever to watch extremely skilled people play games. You can use their tactics to improve your own.
Why is there a picture of a wooden spoon on the article.
>>338073580
like most corporate media, their way of functioning has become obsolete with the advent of the digital age. This is truer for videogames than for other things, because they are such a new medium, meaning the people writing these things don't know jack shit more about it than you do. Ergo they should not get a bigger platform.
And of course he's wrong, not with what he says but with what he means. The implied simple subtext here is that the people who are shit at videogames should not be ignored when they commentate on them. That's obviously nonsense, for the same reason car magazines don't hire people who don't know how to turn on the ignition. If you can't drive, you shouldn't commentate on the quality of a car (or rather, no one sane should give any weight to your opinion).
>>338076660
Actually, beneath mountains of memes and shipost you can find at least a little, dimly fracture of reason here. And mostly here, which is the problem.
>>338073773
Yes, but the point they are actually making is that they are not having fun because they are shit at it and it is therefore the games and other gamers fault and not theirs. Then again what do you expect from a bunch of over-priviliged narcissistic hipsters.
>>338076545
Video games don't exactly attract a core of intelligent critics to lambaste them for being fucking retarded, not do they attract an audience with discerning enough tastes to tell them to fuck right off with their Sociology 101 paper disguised as a video game review.
>>338076716
>i can endlessly complain about leftism on /v/ if i make a single tenuous connection to videogames by misinterpreting that which i'm commenting on
>>338075148
I would have read a Last of Us book and enjoyed it. Last of Us the game was pretty underwhelming
>>338073773
>However, if you're ruining everyone else's fun by being shit
this doesn't apply to singleplayer games at all
>>338074639
OR
OR
OR
BEAR WITH ME HERE
Some people find a serious challenge to be ENTERTAINING.
>>338076024
Those were the days.
>>338076409
>[devil trigger intensifies]
>>338076873
>"How did you lose that eye, Anon?"
>"..."
>>338075376
Yeah but his article about it was about how it was too hard to understand.
>>338076213
Now I really want to play Catherine again.
>>338077028
You won't hear anyone say "git gud" in single player games. The only way you'll end up hearing it is if you come on /v/ and whine about the game being unfair.
>>338076403
cooling=contraction
heating=expansion
rapid contraction+rapid expansion+cheap metal spoon=explosion spoon shrapnel
>>338076873
gold.
>>338076629
>There are particular formal, stylistic, and content based information that critics lean towards, no matter the field.
I don't agree with this. Even if critics did show a leaning towards something, it's irrelevant to me unless it is also indicative of the population outside of the critic's circle.
Essentially, I only use criticism to find someone who shares my own personal set of preferences, and use their recommendations to help save me time and money. This is never reliable for me, save for videogaming, because there are certain things that tend to affect a virtually objective reaction; i.e. unwieldy camera controls, or an unskippable cutscene right before a difficult, death-prone area.
>>338074926
"this guy looks stupid and I hate him." I believe but it's hard to tell from the number of buzzwords and memes used.
>>338075145
Self improvement and learning aren't elitism, I think the most human and defining thing people can do is learn and improve themselves.
If you're out to better yourself or others, why are you even alive?
>>338077127
>You won't hear anyone say "git gud" in single player games.
I've heard it on Dark Souls for Anal Rodeo, so not really
I think you're missing the context of this editorial, anyway. It's about the Polygon hack sucking at Doom (that happened last week). Which, for the campaign, is a single player game
Gitting Gud' is a requirement for games by design.
Even an extremely shallow skill curve requires you to overcome some kind of difficulty.
Walking sims with their near flat - 0 curve are either derided or considered non-games. And rightfully so.
Critical thinking, problem solving, winning.
Overcoming the obstacle is what's makes you enjoy them.
So yes, in fact, you *need* to GIT GUD to enjoy a game.
>>338076865
I'm pretty sure I'm not playing most RTS the way they are meant to be played and I still have loads of fun.
>>338073580
>being so butthurt over a Dark Souls meme that he had to write an essay about how his feelings are totally not hurt, and how he totally doesn't care.
reminder game journalists are where "journalists" go when they fail to get proper journalism jobs. All the ones interested in games got the boot long ago when these rejects were willing to do it for less money and took more bribes.
>>338076873
there was a worse one were some guy got someone to fuck up there pet bunny.
>>338075356
>this picture
>>338074959
aka
I recently converted from mobiles games to systems
>>338075145
I'm the guy your initial post replied to.
Elitism and accessibility is two completely separate things. I believe everything should be (and probably is) accessible for everyone, however, my initial post argued not for accessibility, but for elitism.
Until you start to STRIVE, to WANT to make better food, until you start reading, listening, watching, and generally trying to improve, you will remain at whatever level of capability you are already at.
Only by striving to do better, can we become better. And only by bettering ourselves, can we truly embrace and enjoy what we do. Its why you generally enjoy doing things you're good at.
Some people like fiddling with cars - because they're good at it. Or at least they think so themselves.
Some people like cooking, because they're good at it. Or at least they think so, their friends liked eating over at last weekend.
Could you at any point argue AGAINST bettering yourself? That becoming better at something would ever be BAD? I think that anyone who has adopted such a perspective of things, must have deep trouble doing whatever it is they want to do.
Do you want to hear what I would recommend in order for someone to change such a perspective?G I T G U T
>>338076396
Problem is that early 2000s shooters like NOLF or XIII are among my favourite games, and it's single player FPSs that suffered the most from casualization.
Those games would be impossible to market these days because their gameplay and level design would be considered way too complex.
>>338076320
anyone who's said this is a nintenbabby who started with SA2 GameCube version
>>338074102
You dont have to be good at journalism to enjoy it.
>>338077272
>I've heard it on Dark Souls for Anal Rodeo, so not really
How did someone tell you to gitgud in Dark Souls, pray tell? Did you coop/pvp with them and they sent you mail? In that case you were playing a multiplayer game.
The polygon quadriplegic is also recording gameplay for a game, and their entire job is to record gameplay. They are not there to enjoy the game, they are there to give it a good showing. They SHOULD be held to a standard of skill, since its their fucking job.
>>338073580
I remember when games had difficulty settings so people who weren't good at games and people who were excellent at games could both get an enjoyable amount of challenge from them, without suffering either boredom or frustration.
Then Dark Souls happened, and now people think a game needs to be either a walking simulator or a casual filter in its totality.
It is kind of annoying, actually.
>>338075870
>the controls are sub par
what did he meme by this?
>>338074545
>just because I can't play the guitar for shit doesn't mean I can't review cars
>>338074397
Only the sort of diversity which appeals to me though.
Don't you get it? It's just old-fashioned authoritarianism. My ideas are good, your ideas are bad, your ideas must be removed.
>>338073580
>filename
Mobile posting should be an insta-ban.
>>338077330
Its such a joke, these people should be lynched
>>338077508
Did you not play the new dude sex game?
>>338077493
I wonder what these people think about the series still going strong.
Microtransactions are usually for beneficial shit people don't feel like grinding for, so why don't they just start selling easy mode?
>>338077596
>How did someone tell you to gitgud in Dark Souls, pray tell? Did you coop/pvp with them and they sent you mail? In that case you were playing a multiplayer game.
Me? No. I said I heard.
On /v/. Which doesn't make it multiplayer, it's faggots who want to control someone else's experience of a single player game.
>and their entire job is to record gameplay.
Nobody gives a shit because games journalism is dead. People can watch streamers if they want to see gameplay. There's no use getting butthurt over Polygon or RPS because they're irrelevant hacks.
Let them die like games magazines, and eventually they'll be glued to their local bar every night drinking away their tears and remembering "the good old days when I got paid to shove my shitty opinion down people's throats about vidya gays."
>>338074545
>just because I can't play the guitar for shit doesn't mean I can't review cars
>>338073580
I recall John Walker made a post on RPS about how shit he was at Hyper Light Drifter, because the first boss was too hard for him
I thought it was reasonable until I realised the first boss I fought was the West boss, while the Bird in the East was leagues easier
git gud u fukn casul scrub lmao desu fampai
>>338077596
Not that guy you are replying to but. Have you ever visited a Souls thread?
Nothing but people shitting on each other and telling them to git gud when they die to pretty much brain dead bosses.
>>338077856
I've heard worse ideas.
The people that want short games they can finish in a day or two with no speed bumps along the way, are generally people with more income.
>>338077661
>It's just old-fashioned authoritarianism
Did I miss the pogroms? Or is this the kind of old fashioned authoritarianism where someone disagrees with you online and it hurts your feelings?
>>338077196
>Even if critics did show a leaning towards something, it's irrelevant to me unless it is also indicative of the population outside of the critic's circle.
You can take the two most renowned and hated art critics, Clement Greenberg and Harold Rosenberg, and their writing about abstract expressionism, the countless books that have motivated interest in understanding the relationship between a critic and the populace as a result of their writing, and find that, often, in the case of excellent critics, they tend to have a good grasp of the culture they are speaking from.
I am not defending every critic, and I agree there are critics that, as you state, are not "indicative of the population outside of the critic's circle." Despite that, there are critics that tap into the root of a culture through their criticism.
>>338077901
>>338078006
What context would there be for someone to say 'git gud' to you, if you were not posting about how difficult the game is?
>>338077290
That's because you're doing it wrong.
>>338073580
"Game Journalists are Dead"
>>338077837
I did, and I enjoyed it a lot, but I think games like Deus Ex or VtMB are a whole different genre.
Wouldn't compare them to XIII or Undying, maybe not even NOLF.
>>338078006
see >>338077127
>The only way you'll end up hearing it is if you come on /v/ and whine about the game being unfair.
>>338078203
>What context would there be for someone to say 'git gud' to you,
Asking for advice and only getting (You) "git gud"
>>338073580
You know the whole thing sorta seems pathetic when you realise that the journalists are complaining about people saying mean things about them online. Not even things about who they are as a person, just about their ability to play video games.
>>338075000
Wise words.Trips don't lie.
>>338074789
>playing uncharted 4 on crushing while gf watches
>Everytime I would die she would say "just put it on easy, I want to watch the story"
>I tell her I need to git gud
>she says she doesn't understand
Females don't want to git gud
>>338078203
None.
But if you weren't bitching and showing how much you sucked at the game nobody would tell you to get good and nor would anyone every consider the idea of making games easier. Because nobody is complaining.
If nobody is speaking up about a problem they are having and nobody else notices this problem themselves was there really a problem in the first place.
Sometimes the problem is just the person and not the thing that person has a problem with.
>>338073580
>Read article
>I’ve not played Dark Souls 3, because I detest boss fights at the best of times.
Oh it's THIS faggot again
>>338074006
>Sonic, a game in which you should "git gud"
but all sanic games are af
>>338078778
ds3 boss fights are trash compared to previous entries.
>>338078870
He doesn't hate DS3 bosses, he just hates boss fights in general. John Walker doesn't like anything unless it's walking simulators about how hard it is being a black tranny.
>>338074401
>usually
and thats the point
>>338078649
>>I tell her I need to git gud
>using memes unironically out loud
guessing you're one of those fags that actually SAY "lol"
>>338073580
> still
It was never needed in the first place. Vidya "journalist" opinions are no more valuable than /v/ opinions
I for one welcome this new trend.
I can't wait for the next Car & Driver review of the latest sports car, written by someone who's never even driven a manual before.
>>338074068
Not outraged, just having a laugh at this guy for being bad at video games
>>338078984
in 10 years nobody will drive manuals except hipsters
>polygon playing doom
>>338078649
She's not playing the game, dipshit, she has no investment in seeing you fuck up over and over again. To her you're the projectionist at a movie theatre fucking up when switching film reels; yeah it probably matters to you that you actually learn how to work a film projector, but she'd rather just watch the movie and there's a digital projector right next to you anyway.
>>338078870
The point was he hates ALL boss fights, I didn't recognize the name but when I got to that line I remembered that stupid article he wrote about it
>>338079582
jesus christ this guy sucks balls. not every game is going to be meant for every special snowflake.
>>338078649
>get bb
> do a couple play throughs
> getting ready for training one night
> gf asks if she can play while I go
> sure
> she's now cleared everything up to maria solo having never played a souls game before
> all I did was suggest a quality build for her first run through and point out some items that are easily missed
>>338078791
That's the sad part
>>338073773
>I have no real life accomplishments so i must compensate for that with videogames.
>I play games only for competition so i can feel superior to others *tips fedora*
People who play with your kind of mindset are the problem, not the solution. Games are casual entertainment, kid. Before you were born during the SNES, Super SNES and PlayStation 1+2 era people played for fun not for showoff or bragging. Now we are stuck with the "git gud" retards like you who buy all the DLC and basically kill the singleplayer, because fat spoiled dumb kids sitting in their parents basement with cheetos, mountian dew and Razer™® gaymer gear have to feel superior to others to compensate their failure in real life. You are the ones ruining the fun, because you don't play for fun to begin with. Now git gud at real life you talentless faggots!
>>338078870
sonygger detected
GIT GUD SCRUB
>>338079081
before long you wont even be able to drive on regular roads. Humans are the greatest danger on the road, governments are gonna be keen remove that factor as soon as it's viable. Over the course of the transitional period they'll keep increasing insurance prices and eventually push people out of driving self-driven cars before eventually outright banning them on roads.
Git Gud applies to life as well.
What a pussy faggot that guy is.
>>338078649
>Babe-- you don't understand, I gotta
>git gud
Oh wow, I can really see this
>>338073580
>John Walker
And yet this thread will go to the bump limit.
>>338076024
If you are retarded enough to do that you deserve to die actually.
>>338079749
I don't even own a ps 3/4. just saying the boss fights in DS1 are better. and arguably a couple in DS2 dlc. all the back stabbing and parryable bosses ruined ds3
>>338073580
Why is that kotaku and polygon seem to live off shitting over gamers and catering to SJW agendas.
Literally how are they still a thing. The only time i hear anything about them is when they decide to attack people who identify as gamers with retarded sweeping statements.
Nobody demands that the person playing be great at the game, people just expect them to play like they aren't amputees.
>>338079738
I used to imagine that enemies in games were actually other players trying to get through their game and I was the monster in their game
>>338079582
holy shit this guy is such a flaming faggot
>wanting more difficulty in games is selfish
>wanting games to be made easier in general is not selfish at all
fuck this guy, fuck his double standards
>>338079781
Honestly I don't see much of a problem with that. I'm sure there will still be racetracks, just like for horses.
>>338079582
>It's selfish for you to want boss battles
>But it's not selfish for me to want them removed
>>338079913
>having parrying actually function in boss fights is a bad thing
>>338073580
Do we need video games? Why do we need them? What do they add to society?
Games journalists exist for the same reason video games exist. The current market demands it.
>>338079961
There's a dude who has done upside down, blindfolded and silhouette mod run throughs of souls games. I dont see why an amputee would have a major issue.
This guy has skin thinner than rice paper and an ego more delicate than a tomato. How does anyone get bothered by git gud? If used in an argument its a worthless shitpost that's used as a deflection. If someone tells you git gud in a co-op game it's because you fucking suck and it's the most inoffensive way to get that across.
What the hell is wrong with these people? I suck at shooters too but even I could do better.
>>338079738
>not for showoff or bragging.
High scores are literally just for bragging, if you beat a game like Contra you bragged. If you beat someone in Street Fighter II you bragged.
>>338080240
every parryable boss in dark souls is a fucking joke.
>pontiff.webm
>gwynn.webm
>abyss watchers.webm
>etc
Oh well. Who cares.
You don't have to be good to enjoy games, true, but making them easy as fuck, so you don't need to have any skill to do well, is just as stupid.
>>338073580
I can just imagine some garbage "journalist" angrily typing this after getting his ass beat by Vordt for the 7th time
>>338080420
>>338080420
>for skilled players
Fix'd
Why doesn't he just admit that some games aren't for him instead of demanding that every game have an easy mode?
Does this mean I can go to the Louvre and demand they repaint all the Picassos in a more realistic style?
I would argue that difficulty can even make certain games worse. Hear me out.
Here's a level from a popular, successful rhythm game. Just watch a few seconds of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCGpcW78Z1U
And here is a song from a "hardcore" rhythm game. Note that you need to be autistic to even play at this level in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4eMmODDVM
Which one looks more fun to play? I'll give you a hint: It's not the one that panders to e-sport players. Certain genres work better as party games, and being a "tryhard" who insists on high difficulty only detracts from your own enjoyment.
>>338080702
i wanna fuck that star.
>>338077376
I recall a /fit/ vitamin shake recipe that was packed with ALL the vitamins. Some silly bugger actually drank the thing and basically killed themself.
>>338073580
People are getting really upset over being told their a cuck, or to get gud lately.
Nobody can handle bantz these days.
stop posting clickbait articles on /v/
>>338080702
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=DoD3&sm=3
Step it up
>>338073773
I'm not shit okay??!!? It's just that my team doesn't play the objectives and they're all cod kiddies going for the k/d
>mfw literally never ever read game journalism
I get my fix on /v
>>338080702
>Which one looks more fun to play?
That's entirely subjective.
I would imagine people who are good at rhythm games and welcome a challenge would rather play the latter game.
>>338073580
This is what happens when parents don't hit their kids. An entire generation of fragile pussies.
>>338079582
>stuck on the first boss
Jesus Christ that is sad.
>>338080702
The second link doesn't even look all that hard, you should've picked a better example
>>338074963
>Game is legitimately good
>Tons of people enjoying it, discussing it
>Suddenly one person comes in
>THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS IT'S TOO HARD
>Maybe you should get a little better at it
>NO IT SUCKS AND EVERYONE MUST KNOW
>>338080702
I agree that some difficulties can just be very poorly designed and unbalanced.
Most of the time it really is just 'spoiled entitled' players.
>I can't do this mode, what a shit game mode.
>Achievement/trophy related to the difficulty has a 10% completion rating.
Some modes just aren't meant for you. Git Gud.
As a disclaimer, this excludes all rhythm based games.
>>338073580
Two people review a recipe:
One is a somewhat professional chef who takes time to prepare the perfect form of the meal. He adds the best ingredients, cares about exact measurements, and tries to represent the meal as best as possible. He may even put some of his own flair onto the dish itself to give it some zing.
Now the other reviewer of a recipe is simply a 25 year old with a blog. She doesn't know how to cook as well as the chef, and doesn't prep much beforehand. When she's pressed for time she complains that the recipe is too complex. She claims to have followed the recipe to a "t" even though she used heaping rather than exact volume measurements, and she only used somewhat related ingredients (using any spicy ingredient rather than black pepper or something to complement the dish. She claims the dish is not great, although she claims to enjoy cooking.
Who do you think has a better representation of the knowledge of the dish? They don't need to good at something to enjoy it, but to properly review it they need to have the skill to accurately portray the medium.
>>338079081
t. Americans
Europe are mainly manual cars
>>338081392
you have cars? I thought you all rode on government approved trolleys over there.
>>338080702
Neither are objectively better. Different strokes for different folks. What's important is that a hard game teaches the player about its mechanics in an intuitive way, and that it's difficulty is fair, and not due to random bullshit.
Anyone have some webms of the laughably bad reviewer playing doom?
>>338081392
Automatic with adaptive cruise control is so comfy on motorways though.
>>338079582
How are they this bad at games? At what point did they think that they could review games if they couldn't even fucking play them?
>>338080702
Rhythm games are incredibly satisfying to improve at.
>>338080702
You're just as dumb as John Walker.
>I don't think it looks fun so no one else should
Childish generalizing.
Why is it so hard to comprehend that some people find challenges fun? I say this as someone who wouldn't touch that rhythm game with a ten feet pole
>>338077127
It's practically the name of Dark Souls.
>>338081495
i swear to god that has to be some fake shit.
Quick question to /v/. Has there ever been a game you stopped playing because you couldn't get better at it? If so, did you accept it was your fault or was it the game's fault?
>>338073773
If you're a journalist whose job it is to play video games and review them then you could at least try to be not shit.
>>338081730
It's laziness. They want their twee walking sims because they don't need to think in order to play them.
>>338079781
god damn, i'm all for having more control, but operating death machines is just something the average person will never be responsible enough to do.
>>338080702
Nah fuck off, if you actually enjoy playing the first link you will soon be bored with it and you'll seek out the second one (which isn't even THAT hard), you're basically asking for everyone who got competent at something to not enjoy it anymore because he's forced to play at toddler level.
Of course the first one looks more fun to you, you know nothing about these games, if you bothered to play a single one you'd get better taste, stop from wanting to change things you're not familiar with.
>>338079781
Talking on the phone is meaingless due to hands free
You don't need to be good at video games to enjoy them.
But if you're critiquing a video game, you have to be good at them or people are naturally going to question your ability to judge them.
I may love rhythm games but I'm not very good at them and as such, my critiques on rhythm games would be basic compared to someone with a lot more skill because they have the skill to experience the game at it's highest level of play and be more likely to pick up on subtle intricacies that someone who only dabbles in them won't.
>>338081787
>Rhythm games are incredibly satisfying to improve at.
Nonsense. Rhythm games are the epitome of pointless button mashing.
http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/1/8687867/rock-band-4-preview
>All video games are stupid, of course.
>Every now and again you come across a game that has so little emotional connection to who you are that you end up standing there, gazing at the screen and saying "I'm just pressing buttons and my life has no meaning," to a slightly bemused PR person.
>Music games are often about pressing buttons according to visual cues, which is probably why the whole genre collapsed a few years ago.
>>338082035
no
if a game's hard, then overcoming it is the challenge
>>338073580
>implying they were ever a need
They were a vehicle for advertisement back when you could not get news directly.
Youtube exists, they are done now.
>>338082035
Catherine.
I suck shit at puzzle games in general.
>>338082035
/v/ isn't one person.
But speaking personally, I've never dropped any games because they were "too hard". I braved through the Prinny games, I can do anything, man.
I did drop games when I found their gameplay wasn't all that fun to me, though. Like that Tales game on PSX or Valkyrie Profile.
>>338079582
To be fair, though, HLD's boss battles weren't really designed well. It has the same problem that Kamiya character action games generally have, where the combat is way more fun fighting hordes of small, fast enemies than one big, tough, slow one.
>>338082035
Every strategy game ever, I'm terrible at the entire genre
>>338075062
Didn't the Street Fighter V dev remove the buttslap because of numales?
>>338082035
I suck ass at puzzle games. I just don't have the patience or want to learn tetris or puyo puyo.
I have never once whined for someone to make them easier or different to make them suit me though. I just went on to games that did.
>>338074926
Yes let me try:
This is the faggot who wrote the article.
What do you expect from numale cuckolds? They're SJWs because they compensate for being unfuckable, uneducated trash. While neckbeards get autistic about their hobby, these faggots whine and simper about being more "open" and "progressive" because they're pussies. They want to attract women by being the safe, "nice guy" soft blob of a pussy, and get uppity when you laugh at them.
They don't want to git gud, because it's too hard for them.
Sigh. That was hard.
>>338082114
the danger doesn't come from having only one hand to drive. it's from the distraction of conversing while driving. it's just as bad to talk to a passenger while driving.
>>338080702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIkiKA7cjgo
>>338074618
What's wrong with his face? Where did his eyebrows go?
>>338082035
if a game is hard for me then it's not the game's fault I suck at it. I can either practice, accept that there's only a certain difficulty that I can beat, or move on with my life.
to this day I still never beat DMC1 on DMD mode. I am stuck on the final nightmare fight to this day. half the time I can't even make it to the boss fight as I get my shit kicked in by devil triggered normal enemies
>>338082035
Several times. I just said "I guess this game isn't for me" instead of going on the internet to whine about how it needs to be more accessible.
>>338075645
Don't you have a bull to be prepping?
>>338079738
>before you were born
>SNES, Super SNES
how to spot people born in late 90's trying to talk big
>>338073580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbR7MYGPR6c
literally
>>338082035
Touhou, I wasted hours and hours on it trying to get good and managed to unlock the extra level only in one game
I almost beat it but I just lost interest after the gorillionth try
>>338080702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LoC9KUVtI
>>338073830
>privilege of time
That's not wrong. Only unemployed autists can afford to sink in hundreds of hours in a single weebshit game like souls.
>>338080963
I'm not shit it's LAG!
>>338079738
Games were designed to be as hard as possible to steal your quarters, and then they were ported to the NES without any effort to casualize them for idiots.
Games have never been easier and more babified in the entire history of the industry than they are today for losers such as yourself.
And trying to be the best as things is just what competitive people do, anon.
>>338079738
Whoa, I didn't know they came out with a Super SNES.
>>338073580
This shit is amazing. God bless those retards.
Why does /v/ think Uncharted is a fucking easy cakewalk? Do you people KNOW what difficulty settings are? They put Crushing and Brutal in there for a REASON. AND Uncharted 4 has all destructible cover.
>>338082792
Can you remember which Touhou game it was, specifically?
In the time it took him to type up this article, he could've been practicing with whatever game was giving him so much trouble.Assuming he even plays games in the first place, of course.
>>338082035
At this point I've accepted that I'm shit at fighting games, and I've stopped playing them. Rhythm games too. Basically anything that requires good reflexes. Conversely I tend to be good at puzzle games like Catherine. And no, I don't blame the games, or even myself - different people like different things.
>>338079738
low quality bait
>>338073773
Well said anon
>>338083217
>crushing
>brutal
>still aim assisted ez kills
>>338075064
>mfw i literally ran through half of NG++ on a level 80 character in just over a hour
>enjoying it because its fun to be a knight and fuck shit up, not because "its so hard"
>>338083065
I better you didn't know about the Nintendo Gametrapezoid either.
>>338081476
Better than mobility scooters
>>338083331
7, the slow mode when there are many bullets was probably the only reason I got that far
>>338074753
>Playing baseball with friends
>One friend is shit and puts no effort into it
>"LOL WHATEVER IT'S JUST A GAME RELAX GUYS"
Playing multiplayer games is literally the same as playing sports or doing any other kind of competition with other people. Not giving a shit about being dead weight is generally frowned upon. If you are just doing shit by yourself then do whatever you want and if anyone disagrees fuck them.
>>338083589
There is no fucking aim assist. What are you talking about? Are you talking about the toggle setting on 4? YOU CAN TURN IT OFF, RETARD
>>338080861
No that was one retard who decided he needed 5x the dose of vitamin A that was suggested and BTFO of his liver and ended up on dialysis
>>338083660
Oh yeah, I've heard horror stories about that game from newbies in the Touhou threads. I personally think it's very easy but I can easy why it can be rather challenging to someone without enough experience.
It's too bad you couldn't play it the whole way through, the Extra stage is pretty damn fun, but I guess that's life.
I don't think games should be difficult, I think that was a mistake of the past. I'm glad we're moving on. The only thing it did was make me mad whenever I would play a game that's too hard. I shouldn't have to be mad to play a game, it should be fun.
Casuals have more options than ever before. If you can't handle one game, keep trying or move on.
Everything can't appeal to everybody.
casuals disgust me
>>338073580
Yeah, you don't need to be good at a game to enjoy it, but if they are doing something like reviewing it I would at least expect them to have some basic experience with they type of game they are reviewing...
I still feel "GID GUD" doesn't excuse in-game related bullshit that is awful regardless of your experience level.
>>338083819
calm down dude. don't you have a "cinematic" cutscene to watch dude? the big guys are talking about real video games here
>>338073580
please tell me the comment section is nothing but git gud
>>338084014
it's actually "I agree!" and "He's right, games today should respect my needs as a gamer."
>>338083416
This. He also has his head so far up his ass that even though he's worse and has less experience than the average player he somehow comes up with the conclusion that he should write reviews
>>338083939
Did they take this video down? I want to bask in its awfulness
>>338073580
who the fuck even reads this
>>338084009
faggot, there are LESS cutscenes in the entire uncharted series than in mgs 3 ALONE.
>>338073580
This is LITERALLY clickbait.
>Hurr durr, videogames need you to become adept at something
>But we don't need to git gud! We can suck at the game and still finish it!
Seriously, name ONE game where you can be not at all gud and finish the game. I can't think of any, not even Stories from the Borderlands. Miss a QTE, you're fucked.
>>338084410
miney craftey
>>338078205
But wrong =\= fun. I'd love to play some RTS to nuke the fuck out of someone, but I can't get to that level.
>>338084410
Star Fox Zero
>>338083874
It was very fun getting even a bit further in the level, but at some point I realized I had been playing the same thing dozens of times with a few seconds to show for it, I'm probably just a lazy fuck and of course I would never blame the game, given that plenty of people finish them.
Videogames journalism is fine when they're just doing journalism (i.e. reporting vidya related news and industry talk). Too bad they tend to be shills, pretentious art "critics", or both.
>>338082942
I'm a student. I want to play. I haven't played in 3 days. It's not a priviledge of time, but you often DO have to manage to git time. and time = gud.
>>338084557
That level is always relative to the person you are playing against.
>>338084410
gone home is the game of choice for journalists in case you forgot
>>338084649
why don't /v/ just do it ourselves?
they designed easy on halo as to allow the player to complete the game using only their nose
if a game doesn't let you choose the difficulty to allow you some freedom in how hard you're going to get fucked, more power to it, and it needs to happen more often.
casual filth
the souls fanbase is cancer, but they're also worthless so it's easy to ignore them.
not a single person who does whatever you do in souls games (or other elitist and autist fanbases, old fire emblem comes to mind) is going to be your boss, or will even be in your workplace, and will likely never even talk to you in real life since all they do is dedicate themselves to crappy videogames and leech off others with tugboat money
John Walker is a butthurt babby though
>>338076396
>That's only a problem if all you consume are AAA games made to pander to the lowest common denominator.
Yeah that's the majority of the non-mobile market right there, hence why it's a problem for the industry as a whole.
>>338084753
I don't want anyone to do anything, I just wish there was less entanglement between news, advertising, and opinion expression.
>>338084726
and the more intelligent you are, the less time it takes to git gud. same thing with learning anything. if you're a fucking retard, it's going to take way longer to learn what a book is teaching you than a smart person.
and it is mostly learning. very rarely is the issue raw reaction time.
>>338084753
That's the whole point of this board
>>338084498
Apart from mobs killing you, is there an end-game in Minecraft? Is there a goal to get to? This is like saying the Sims, as in "I guess it's correct, but still I have something to complain about". But fair's fair, Minecraft/Sims. Although you'll never hear someone say "I love breaking these diamond blocks with my bare hands!"
>>338081336
On the other hand, many more people will follow the relatable 20 something home chef stumbling her way through cooking than the professional chef following recipes exactly, using complex techniques and precise measurements with expensive equipment no one has.
Which is why people watch Masterchef, a reality program about home cooks making shit they've probably never made before, instead of Iron Chef, a reality competition program about professionals. Because the former actually relates to its audience of capricious mental midgets with a passing interest in feeding themselves. Much like the faggot casual complaining about difficulty relates to faggot casuals who have a passing interest in playing games.
>>338073580
Literally the only "profession" where this shit flies. If I told my boss I could do my job without being good at me he'd tell me to fuck off.
If you're getting paid for something people fucking expect you to know what you're doing. Rightly so.
>>338082942
>Only unemployed autists can afford to sink in hundreds of hours in a single weebshit game like souls.
Yeah no, I go to college full time while working a part time dishwashing job and I was still able to rack up 400 hours in MH4U alone when it came out.
>>338082035
My fault.It haunts me to this day.
>>338073580
The problem with being bad at vidya and expecting someone to give a damn about your opinion is that by being terrible it shows a clear indication that you dont fully grasp or appreciate the mechanics in said game.
Imagine someone who didnt understand color theory or perspective trying to inform you about the composition of a piece. Or someone whos trying to tell you about food but only understands how to microwave dinners or make hamburger helper.
Its the sort of thing that becomes obvious in action games or fighting games, which are mechanic dependant and then you have people playing bayonetta and cant even figure out how to put weapons on their feet.
>>338084851
You're not the majority of the market anymore, why would you expect to get the majority of the games?
>>338085020
the goal of mine crap is to rip and tear your way to the ender dragon and kill its guts
>>338082691
Is that a banjo kazooie style remix of hotline bling?
>>338079738
From one '90s kid to another, let me just say: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
Seriously, unless you were playing some Disney shit game or had no friends, we were always competitive. Quake, Doom, street fighter, or games in the arcades it was 90% competitive, even when playing multi-player with that asshole friend that took all the power ups. Seriously, senpai step that shit up.
>>338084727
I'm counting single player. Against PC. If I don't grasp the basics, I can't have fun. And even grasping the basics is "gitting gud". That's like having a 'skip this part that I don't like' button.
Fucking casuals are starting to slowly simmer my blood. I got that mentality from DaS2, if something doesn't work, I just git gud. It feels gud.
>>338074006
>Gamestop gives dark souls points for being hard
>Gamestop docks DK points for being hard
LOL
>>338073580
I've been saying for a while that the current population of modern society lacks a startling degree of self-awareness, and articles like these exemplify that notion.
Who cares if someone thinks you're bad? Are you a fucking toddler? Why does this offend you? Brush it off and move on. How is this newsworthy in any medium?
>>338073580
Does John Walker even play video games?
Git Gud is not an insult when someone does something bad.
It is a response to when someone complains about a game being hard, often saying that the game should change to cater.
Others are already enjoying the current difficulty and think that the newcomer should try to better himself instead of writing it off as a bad mechanic.
But yeah you can be terrible at video games and still enjoy them.
That's not what git gud is about though, it is a response to people saying that games should be easier.
>>338082035
Well I haven't touched Dark Souls in a month because I hit a wall with Ormstein and Smough.
Of course, I hit a wall with Blight Town as well (that framerate fucking killed any enjoyment I had) but once I came back back to it after a month I got past it easy. I'll come back to it soon so I can try to progress.
Sometimes the best way to git gud is to git rest.
>>338075724
>tutorial level
They still have those, it's just the whole game.
>>338077493
>using fucking ellipsis in a professional review
I will never know a rage this pure in anything else.
>>338085108
I've never understood why people think having responsibilities actually prevents spending a lot of time on a game.
You just don't spend it all in one week.
People pisses away huges amounts of time in their lives watching television, so it should be pretty obvious to them that they can enjoy a game at a pace of a couple hours a day.
>>338084913
I get that, but that journey can be made fun. If I suck, I should know it. Then, the less often I hear that I suck (YOU DIED), the happier I feel.
>>338084760
Easy difficulty is what spoiled people to the point of demanding this level of pandering. I remember playing resident evil 1 and 2 as a kid and completing them, now can you imagine handing a little kid such a game and expecting him to complete it? I seriously believe if you handed a kid a game at maximum difficulty he will learn how to play before your average nu-male
>>338075148
Depends on what you've expected from it and how you felt about the pacing. Personally I thought the downtimes where you're doing the walking dialogue or looking for macguffin shit to move on is retarded and takes too long, but it does give you more time to spend with Ellie so you get more attached to her. Gameplay itself was shit tho.
>>338084915
>>338084753
Let's make a /v/ news bulletin! It works on /k/ just fine. I'll make a mail address for it and make a thread, we can get it going.
>>338085215
Oh... and after that the credits roll?
>>338075681
>Dark Souls is hard
I love the series but come the fuck on, they never ever should have made the difficulty the marketing point of the game
it punishes you if you're stupid and that's why this crass motherfucker who don't need no child support had such a difficult time wrapping his pepsi-can shaped brain around the fucking game
I read RPS regularly, but John Walker is a fucking idiot. Don't read his reviews or articles.
>>338085649
Or just make a thread when something news-worthy happens?
>>338073580
I don't really care about what games can or can't be played if you're bad at games.
But I do hate how "get good" reduces the conversation to nothing but a shitty zing. Rather than helping people build, you dismiss them in a snotty way.
Growing up, I would take turns playing with my friends, and we would help each other. I would watch them play a part I was bad at, and learn from then. They would watch me play a part they were bad at, and learn from me.
Even later in life when online became the norm, you could always find help in the various communities. People were enthused to share what they know. By sharing, others would learn and grow, and inevitably get good.
You aren't helping build anyone up by shouting "git gud" at them.
>>338082035
final fantasy tactics
the whole idea of a strategy rpg perplexes me. I definitely prefer being skillful with hands and eyes and the smarts against another person.
Then again I'm just a salty fag that needs to git gud
You don't need to be a master, but competence should be mamdatory. There are several steps before git gud from the point Gies was in that DOOM video.
>>338079582
This guy can't be serious
>>338082035
I initially got stuck on Gattuso in Vesperia. I quit for a while (largely because I also had other games to play) but eventually came back, beat him and finished the game.
>>338085874
We don't exist to build you up.
>>338082445
It got put back in.
>>338085304
>Mentioning the gamespot review, the only thing that's made me madder from that site was their RD review.
The bottom line is a crock of shit as well, Micaiah runs into Jarod, who arrests her, suddenly she's in prison. What gives?
>>338085873
Those disappear. A voice thread gets you the best of 1 month you might have missed. I'd love to get into turn-based RPG, but I don't know how. Also, news here tends to be formed as "Where were you when X happened?" Or "Can we agree that X is shit?"
>>338081268
>>338075361
More like,
>One guy insists the game is flawed.
>A hundred sycophants jump down his throat defending the flaw.
>He holds his ground.
>"Fuck man, can you believe that guy trying to tell us our game isn't perfect? Fuck that dude..."
>Next guy comes in saying he's having trouble with the flawed segment.
>"OMG NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN FOR THE THOUSAND TIME! GIT GOOD SKRUB"
>>338086056
>Mii support
Really? People can't identify with some figure that hasn't been created by them?
>>338075285
An online tutorial faggot still can't beat the game. I'm lmaoing at his life.
>>338085874
>how do I beat this dude???????
>aim better
>NO NOT THAT HOW DO I BEAT HIM WITHOUT LEARNING
>>338086045
No one implied that's what you exist for.
Doesn't change what I said.
>>338086056
>Mii support
oh im laffin
>online
This guy is a full fucking reta-
>or motion controls
Good lord I've never seen so much stupid
>>338086308
Things that never happen?
>>338073580
>"Gamers are dead"
>"GIT GUD is dead"
What's the next thing that will die. $5 on gameplay. Cap this.
>>338086231
But isn't the fact that someone else did it proof that the segment is doable and therefore not flawed? I can say "Dem cunts fucked up this bit, could've been smoother sailing". If it's horribly out of place, I complain. Crybabies that say a game is bad because they aren't handed stuff straight away can put the game away and not spoil it for others.
>>338075064
That's fucking retarded, if you don't like or enjoy a game just drop it right there. Only people who power through shitty games are the ones doing it for an audience.
>>338075681
Why does every faggot always miss the giant, glowing orange messages at the beginning of the game?
"Wah, Dark Souls doesn't give me any hints!"
Literally the first few steps you take, and it teaches you how to fight. I don't believe it is possible to miss them without being actually retarded.
>>338086474
99% of hard situation require proficiency, or they wouldn't be hard
>>338086238
I don't fucking know, I can forgive him for saying it's the hardest because net to nobody had played Thracia at that point, but laguz ere definitely worse in RD than the prequel
>>338082035
i can't get into Dwarf Fort due to the learning curve, and i don't blame the game, i just don't have the drive to learn that much.
>>338085419
>Worked 10-12 hour days as a lumberer
>Still made time for the vidya.
>Mfw some office jockey cock sucker complains about not having any time.
>>338086665
dorf fort ain't even hard. that's a meme.
>>338086554
>But isn't the fact that someone else did it proof that the segment is doable and therefore not flawed?
Not necessarily. Because there could be many factors at play.
Luck being one of them. When AI responds randomly, one person could be lucked into a reasonable experience. While another person could get bad-lucked into an unreasonable experience.
>>338086761
As a translator (someone who doesn't ever have to get out of the house) I have to concur that statement. I have close proximity to vidya, but it' hard to make time for it. A lumberer leaves work and has anything BUT work to do.
>I still admire your work, though.
So, what he's saying is that I should just accept movie reviews from blind people because you don't need working eyes to enjoy a visual medium?
Or I should be okay with a professional athlete being bad at his sport?
I should be okay with a doctor that's bad at being a doctor?
>>338082035
I am absolute shit thief. I loved playing through the first game and was even impressed/disappointed with how a 90's game was technologically superior to its 2014 edition. I was only ever able to beat the first two levels before stopping.
>>338086986
>he takes his work into his home life
cucked by your boss
>>338086934
True. At that moment, a game is broken. But let's talk about a 1 % of bad luck. That probably couldn't be ascribed to luck and broken code anymore, that would be the player's fault. See Dark Souls. Difficult, but doable.
>>338085419
>I don't have time to play games I have responsibilities
>I'm just gonna netflix and chill this weekend!
>>338086986
Man I'm a work at home medical systems programmer. I probably work more hours than you do, but I have time for video games.
>>338073580
>something hurts their feelings
>its now problematic and needs to be changed
>>338087087
>boss
>not my "client"
>implying I have someone to call "boss" and that I go to work
I'm a contractor, that's the thing. I don't do wage.
>>338086371
How would my comment change what you wrote?
Take your conversation somewhere else. Maybe back to your historical fantasy Internet, where you would have a greater opportunity to find assistance in a game than you do today.
Today you not only have walkthroughs of old, but actual videos on YouTube of people performing tasks for people that have difficulty learning from reading text.
>>338073580
This shit made my day
I feel vindicated in the fact that there filthy casuals everywhere still
fuckin filthy casuals
feels good to say
>>338087197
How the hell did that phrase even become a meme?
>>338087068
You've reminded how bad I am at stealth games. I couldn't even do Dishonored, and I could even tell that it was easy.
>>338087236
Sure, that's actually my point not well made
>I'm also a retard who can't manage his time
There's the problem.
>>338073580
we only ever needed them back when gaming was a niche hobby
>>338082035
I suck dick at RTS games hard core so the few times i've tried to play them I just end up stopping, got no strategic mind so of course it's my own fault.
>>338087359
I don't know, but I know that I don't like it. Probably partly because I'm still mad at Netflix for throttling my DVD account all those years ago and I hate to see them do well.
>>338082035
I can't get past the tutorial of metal gear rising on the final difficult mode
I know I'd be able to survive with all my powerups, but you don't have any in the tutorial, I can't even reach the boss
>>338086634
That's not necessarily true.
For example, there is "difficulty" and then "punishment". Those things are often confused.
Difficulty is an enemy where you level of proficiency must be of a high level, in order to avoid getting hit. Punishment is getting one-shot.
If you're playing an RPG, where you levels up your HP highly, then you are able to survive an attack that may one shot another player. Therefore, you might think you're playing better, because you beat the enemy on your first try, despite having gotten hit once.
Where you might think someone else is playing worse, because they died in one hit, due to low HP.
You both played with the same level of skill, but because the enemy was more punishing to him, he ended up dying.
And then you get the luxury of shouting "git gud" at him.
>>338082035
Any and all rhythm games. I can play and enjoy them but only on normal difficulty, on hard no matter how much I try I never even complete the levels. I'm quick to lose concentration and I can't recover quickly from a miss, so if I miss one, I'll miss the next ten notes.
>>338073580
I understand what they're trying to say but these writers are morons. You don't need to be the greatest to enjoy games. Someone will always be better than you. However, there is a minimum level of skill required to enjoy games. If you can't even progress properly or use game mechanics, you are literally missing parts of the game, which reduces enjoyment.
>>338075189
The wooden spoon is the metaphorical trophy awarded to the team or person who came last.
Eg my soccer team got the wooden spoon this year.
Do americans not have have that term? Common in australia
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>>338087371
Couldn't you at least just go the murder everyone route if stealth failed? I rushed through dishonored during a free weekend doing that.
Also, I find it silly when these people say that books don't have a barrier like a game's difficulty. Most people, myself included, can't even read literature from older times periods.
>>338073580
>being this bad you have to make an article about enjoying video games
lol git gud
>>338087398
Ah. Well, I mean, I don't really find it that hard. Schedules are good for you and prevent you from overworking which can result in negative progress.
I have a pretty strict schedule for myself that only gets broken by immediate emergency work. Work out in the morning at 5, breakfast, work starting at 7, short work out after lunch, finish up working at 5, dinner then vidya.
>>338082035
too many to count, but you posted one
last level of the first encounter is insane
>>338076750
This is actually a great piece of advice.
>I play a DEX-based spearman in DaS2
>Enjoy it because I like spears
>No one can fuck with me, no online mode
I might actually try to play Styx: MoS on easy, played it on Goblin and it was murder.
>>338087169
>But let's talk about a 1 % of bad luck. That probably couldn't be ascribed to luck and broken code anymore, that would be the player's fault.
Uhh... I'm not sure what you meant here. Maybe it's me, but what I'm reading sounds scrambled.
>>338073580
>A really unpleasant gaming trend is getting louder and louder of late
>18 of May, 2016
Do these fuckers have no shame? This has been rampant since forever.
>>338087693
No, I couldn't even do that.
But I can read literature from older time periods. In fact I almost never read contemporary books. You filthy book casual.
>>338076396Check out the new Doom.
>>338073830
Dr Who needs to check his time privilege
>>338087323
Someone is bitter.
I'm not going anywhere, retard. I'm calling people out for participating in cancerous behavior. Sorry I have to confront you with something you don't want to hear. But you can always close the tab if what I'm saying bothers you.
>>338082503
any rhythm games which require a full piano keyboard? for people who are actually gud.
>>338078973
every one has said lol out loud at least one it's 2016 man
>>338088086
>I'm calling people out.
You sound lost, loser.
>>338085071
Think about the one Master Chef though to the entire Food Network, which is mostly dedicated to the first category, more people seem infatuated with the ideal rather than someone who lacks an understanding. Masterchef is popular because it's different than everything else, not because it's what most people want.
>>338086761
>>338086986
>>338087236
Congratulations, you're now discovering things outside of work influence the amount of time you have to do things.
>>338073580
Oh, I get it...
It's a joke.
There's no way this guy thinks you can enjoy being stuck on the first level and drop the game afterwords. I'm sure there are plenty of players out there who spend money on videogames and only play half of it because they aren't good enough to continue, and then say they had fun. That they enjoyed playing half of a game and then losing over and over again because they can't beat the next boss or solve the next puzzle.
It's just a joke.
>chucklefuck clickbait articles like this get passed around constantly
>meanwhile the industry is constantly breaking consumer law, employment law, evading taxes, lobbying for shit like SOPA etc. And barely gets reported or talked about
We need journalism but not this blog tier garbage that exists right now
>>338088285
You've already run out of things to say. Weak.
>>338082035
I mean...there aren't any new games that ever come close to this feeling.
Barring those crazy fuck Mario Maker levels that would take literal days of trial and error to complete the only thing that really comes to mind are older Nintendo titles.
And even then you can still power on through it because despite it being hard you only had 2-3 buttons worth of mechanics to deal with.
Like the potential to make hard as fuck crazy games is there, Mario Maker of all things proves that, but nobody will ever do it or come moderately close. Even if they did it will probably have a difficulty setting (like most games should have) so people can lower the crazy down to complete them.
The only game I picked up and just said "ehh fuck it not worth bothering" was IWBTG and that shit's just a troll game to start with.
isn't git gud just telling someone that they suck and should improve? how is that 'as of late'? i used to shit talk on fucking Doom and that's 20 something years ago
>>338088562
You aren't building anything up with that level of commentary, anon.
>>338073580
I can have fun even at games I suck at. I've got 393 hours in one game, have won about 5 times, and two of those don't count because one was just me learning the game on the lowest difficulty and the other was a technicality. The fun comes from me, slowly but surely, getting gud at the game.
>>338073580
>Why do we need them?
we dont. youtube and twitter have made "game's journalism" almost completely obsolete. its only good for industry gossip and op-eds.
its always been garbage, but you don't need written reviews anymore. you don't even need opinions. 90% of people only need a five minute video to tell if they want to play a game or not.
lets be real here. video games are still by and large a childish waste of time anyway.
>>338087486
This so much
>suck at RTS?
>don't play them!
>Don't like repeating a boss fight 12 times?
>We get it, but don't try to ruin it for all of us!
It's that simple.
If I don't win then I feel sad and mad. Why should games be difficult if the goal is winning? The practice needs to stop, but I know most of you disagree with me
>>338076213
to be fair, catherine must be the hardest fucking game i played in my life
the baby on the third or fourth stage was realy REALY fucking hard
just made me scream harder when i finaly beat that fucker though
>games "journalism"
Who gives a shit?
>>338073580
We might as well start publishing books and scientific journals for a elementary school reading level because people cant "GIT GUD" at reading
>>338088717
No one can teach you how to git gud at life.
>>338073580
I like how "professionals" are puffing their chests out at internet morons. I visual is wonderful
>>338073580
>the want to better yourself at a task is an extraordinarily narrow-minded view of humanity
okay.
No, you don't need to be good at games to enjoy them. You do however need to be good at games to properly review them.
>>338076409
>impossible to grasp parry mechanics
>>338088992
That's precisely what every generation of humans does to the one that follows it.
You just don't have anything to offer.
>>338082945
This is true in a shit ton of cases though.
A lot of multiplayer games are lazily put together laggy messes.
Destiny being an example.
>>338074963
try not sucking
>>338087870
Sorry, it's 1AM and I didn't get my beauty sleep.
If we're talking random generated, you COULD get a boss who flails you with insta-killing attacks all the time. This problem, however, is mostly solved with beta-testing and debugging. After corrections and tweaks, there is minimal chance that a boss would behave in a way where you can't go past him EVER. Even if you do get 3-4 insta-kill-go-back-to-start moments, those are bound to go away at some time. "Git gud" is basically shorthand for "Might be you, might be the game, give it another shot, we've been there. Keep going".
TL;DR: Games not broken 99% of the time, so it must be the player.
>>338089086
>Anon, save your money, exercise and diet.
>NO, HOW DO I REALLY GET A GIRLFRIEND.
>>338076403
Kaboom goes the spoon.
>tfw DSP is basically the target consumer of vidya now and the "journalists" sound like him in ways
>What do they add to the industry?
This
>>338077028
it does apply to single player games you retard, when games get dumbed down and simplified because of catering to the lowest common denominator.
>>338089424
>'tis but a scratch
>>338079738
kid is the second most autistic insult you could ever use
bub is the first, you probably use that too
I never read anything gaming related, because I think it's all drivel. Please inform me, are articles like in OP's pic the only thing gaming journalists write? They don't actually review games or anything?
>>338076409
>complains about it being too difficult
>complains that reducing the difficulty effectively makes it a button masher
Seriously, what the fuck do these people want?
>>338089325
The best way to "get a girlfriend" is to interact with women. They don't come to you, anon.This is you trying to give people advice on dating.
>>338089424
>that aim
>oh god, that aim
>those shots after even a non-player (yours truly) clearly sees the signs of a dead enemy
Wasting ammo.
>>338089590
Check out Zero punctuation. Guy hates most of them, shills for some, but if you check the first hundred or so vids he's done, they're really fast paced. I love it because it keeps my English in shape.
>>338089590
A lot of the writing is stuff like OP's pic, and most of the time it's just as ridiculous as well.
Reviews do exist but most reviews are paid or heavily, HEAVILY biased and are only used to fulfill some hidden or not-so-hidden agenda.
Gaming Journalism is literally the most cancerous thing on this planet other than actual cancer.
You don't need to be good at games to enjoy them, that part is true.
But git gud is something different.
If you are enjoying the game with a lack of skill, git gud never applies to you.
>>338089084
It was just a poorly explained mechanic ingame all in all, once you figured it out it was piss.
He's right you know.
>>338089712
>DOOM 4 pistol
>ammo
>>338090059
Look at how much more fun the right looks.
>>338089237
>"Git gud" is basically shorthand for "Might be you, might be the game, give it another shot, we've been there. Keep going".
HA! What amazing mental gymnastics you're pulling there.
>Games not broken 99% of the time, so it must be the player.
1. 1/100 times, is still a lot. Because every game has well over 100 different parts. Different enemies in varying environments, with alternating tactics.
2. Something doesn't necessarily need to be broken, in order to be a flaw. You have develop a working feature that is unrealistically difficult for most players. If 99% of your player base falls into a trap, then is that a sign of an effective trap? Or is that a sign of unreasonable expectations?
Knowledge can often cover for flawed design. Because by failing and learning the solution, you can tell yourself it's fair, since you figured it out. And you may think it's fair, because you can easily replicate the solution. However, the solution may never address the flaw that made you fail initially.
>>338090059
A more accurate example would be the left side eating like a dog because using utensils is to difficult, while the right side is using all of the utensils and calling the left side a filthy casual.
Also, the right side looks more fun, anyway.
>>338090131
Kind of expected that, I haven't actually played it yet. Still, those shots were unnecessary, weren't they? If not wasteful, at least unnecessary.
>>338089424
I remember when I was young I made my mom play Halo, she had never touched vidya in her life.
This is exactly what it looked like.
>>338090347
He was showing the body damage as far as I can tell.
>>338090059
>food analogies
>>338075681
>Dark Souls is hard
Id love to see these kiddies tackle shit like Ninja Gaiden Black. Atleast you can cheat DaS by overleveling massively and summoning. None of that shit will help you in NGB
>>338073580
>an end to "GIT GUD"
I guess that's it, boys. We can't say our meme words anymore.
>>338090059
>happy and satisfied as fuck after the hardcore game
This is why they're better.
>>338090059
The right side doesn't seem more fun, it seems hell of a lot more REWARDING.
If you get shit shoveled at you, you get bored quick.
If you have to go to hell and back to get something, you'll cherish it more.
>>338074926
I could understand him okay, maybe you need to grow a dick?
here's a cute art
>>338090415
Well, shooting the environment didn't prove a lot to me...
>>338090479
I think I'm going to start filtering "food analogies." Thanks for the last bit of inspiration.
>>338089684
This is you trying to understand the exchange we're having.
>>338078043
What do you think those rowdy mobs of vandals and looters are gearing up for?
>>338090257
Paragraphs of text, yet nothing actually said. As the kids say, become proficient.
>>338090645
try filtering my dick in your mom
>>338090679
>ableism
>>338090752
>As the kids say
You could have just said "as I say".
>>338087693
The reading thing is cultural. Most people also can't read books from now that are above their level. However, reading is a skill more directly-applicable to real life than the abstract skills you obtain through gaming, so raising your level is easier in general.
Most people can't read high-level stuff, but most people also don't have a ceiling they cap off at.
>>338090257
>Making workarounds is not "git gud"
Also, as for the mental gymnastics, I think it's the Aussie Banter University. It's hazing, it doesn't hurt, if someone feels butthurt, they can make that excuse. Whenever I say "git gud", I mean it in a tongue-in-cheek fashion, such as saying "damn, you suck" and giggling about it.U wot m8? U 'avin a giggle, m8?!
>>338090873
>No material.
>>338073580
>Why do we need them?
To disseminate information. Way more people would check a website that has all the news daily than would sign up for a company newsletter, even if those newsletters were the only news source available.
>>338074618
Ah, the middle period of Klingon development.
>>338091110
Sorry, I'm just calling people out for participating in cancerous behavior.
>>338090553
I'd rape her hard.
>Arrive at harvest valley
>go to a ledge above a poison pool
>hammer enemy
>suddenly fly backwards as a firebomb pisses in my cereal
>source nowhere in sight
>regular barrage of fireballs until I get inside
>didn't find the bitch
the subaru impreza is an example of toxic masculinity, its loud engine and fast speed reeks of chauvinism and the tinted windows promise rape
>>338091082
>Making workarounds is not "git gud"
It's not. Especially when a workaround is used to get around an unintended design element.
Banter is contextual. It's when you're having a competition, and you're talking shit to mess with your opponent. But you're still cool after the fact. It's saying something you don't really mean to get a rise out of someone, but you can always bring them into the joke, because he gets it.
"git gud", is just being a faggot over the internet.
>>338091434
You don't shit on my favourite car in Gran Turismo 3 like that, m80.
>>338091298
So mentioning someone's disability is ableism?
And you say I'm the one who needs to get out? When you belong on tumblr.
>>338091473
Banter is just a metagame. It has nothing to do with anything that you are going on about.
>>338091473
Fuck, I thought everyone here took "git gud" as a joke, that's the meme, like
>hurr, this game's hard
>You just need to git gud
Like this, I'd always giggle at it when someone said it to someone else. That's why it's a "dank meme".
>mfw you destroyed my /v/isions
>>338091434
I'm still sad you couldn't fight the two eyed cacodemon in Pirate Doom
>>338091692
>Using someone's mental disability as an insult is not ableism.
You have to go back.
>>338091732
Banter is basically taking things with a pinch of salt. 4chan is a banterous place. Here you get yelled at by a garbage man while writing your doctor's thesis. And life goes on. IRL, we can be friends.
>>338091769
I don't know why people assume 4chan or the internet in whole is this jokey place. At LEAST 50% of everyone is serious. And even the jokey ones will turn serious if you press them enough.
>>338091875
Is calling someone a faggot ableist? Or is it homophobic? I heard a gay guy call another gay guy a faggot. What is it then?
Ableism and all these neo-problems can fuck right off. Autists need to git gud.
>>338091875
I didn't insult though. I observed your lack of ability to understand the conversation, due to your autism.
>>338083909
Eddy did nothing wrong
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