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>best weapon in the entire game is locked behind the worst
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>best weapon in the entire game is locked behind the worst mini-game in video game history

FUCK

YOU
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I forgot PCucks have it now. How is it?
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>>338069839
Worst FF after 13
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>It's a capture 10 tonberrys episode
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>>338069967
X came out before 13...
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>>338069839
The port itself is great, they messed up the faces a bit though
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>>338069220
The only ultimate weapons I managed to unlock were tidus's and Yuna's I'd say this is the second easiest to get, Yuna's is the easiest by far.
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>>338070067
yeah, but 13 is the worstest
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I had never tried it before and got it on the third try. It's nothing compared to the lightning challenge or having to play 60 blitzball games. Even the butterflies gave me more trouble.
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That's not blitzball
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>>338069220

The Lightning dodging was worse. No wait, Blitzball was worse. No wait...all the extra content in FFX was shit.
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>>338069220
I seriously never understood the problem with this mini-game.

Getting the weapon is only a little bit challenging, nothing compared to what you have to do for Kimahri's or Lulu's weapons.
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If you think finding the ultimate weapons are in any way frustrating wait until you have to grind for Luck to be able to land attacks on the dark aeons.
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The chocobo race can go suck a big fat one, horrid controls coupled with the fact that the chocobo changes directions randomly, RNG dependant balloon spawns and birds that can stunlock you towards the end.

>>338070647
I'd much rather grind for two weeks straight than attempt the chocobo race ever again. Best I could get was 1.1 after two hours of pure frustration.
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Perfect Sphere Master broke my perfectionist spirit.

I'll never feel like completing a game ever again.
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>>338070443

Its bad game design when you know what you have to do, but have to do it 5-10 times. Your chance of winning is tied to wither or not the Chocobo Trainer messes up with a slow start, not your own skill.
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>>338070067
Read the post again
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>>338069967
I would say even worse than 13.
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just use cheat engine retard
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>>338071267
>Cheating
Seriously?
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>>338071160
But I've never had to try for HOURS like I've seen in so many complaints. It shouldn't be that difficult for anyone.
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>>338070231
FUCK THE LIGHTNING CHALLENGE.

What was it, 300 dodges in a row with no hits at all or it resets the counter? Who the fuck designed this.

The only ultimate I didn't get was wakka's, anyway. Fucking blitzball took forever.
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>>338070443
>Have to wrestle with the controls because the Chocobo is purposely unstable
>Need to collect a certain amount of balloons to lower your time to 0.00.00
>Have to avoid getting hit by as few randomly spawning birds as possible that add to your time when hit
>And you HAVE to win 1st place on top of all this shit

This minigame is probably the worst of them all in FFX. Lulu's is annoying, Khimari's is just a pain in the ass due to the camera angle, but Tidus's can just fuck right off with how piss inducingly difficult and frustrating it is.
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>>338071797
200 dodges and the counter resets if you save or exit the game
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>>338071641

When I was a kid, it took me hours. Because I was an impulsive snot faced teen who just expected instant results. I played the HD remake last year and it took me about eight tries. Because I learned the pattern in the first two tries, then it took six more for the Chocobo Trainer to mess up and let me win.

Even taking your time however, its still a shitty mini game. And there's no excuse for it. Even overlooking how you have to wait for the Chocobo Trainer to mess up, the game itself feels like it was coded in less than a day. Invisible walls, texture clipping and bad Chocobo controls all make it harder than it should be. Its just one of the biggest examples of how SquareEnix will spend a month making a 3D model for a Chocobo, then only a couple hours making the controls for how it moves. Because gameplay doesn't matter. Only the visuals matter.
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>>338071797
I don't know what it is, but the response time to dodge lightning on the PS3 version is a LOT quicker than it was on the PS2. I felt so overwhelmed by my lack of reflex that I decided to just skip it.
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Does the PC version have cheats like IX did?
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>>338072793
You can get 99 of every consumable item, unlimited gil and fully unlock the sphere grid, all from the main menu. It also has a turbo mode.
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>>338073012
Shit, why even play then?
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>>338073109
for the story?
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>>338073109
It's for the walking simulator audience.
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i literally did everything in FFX when i was fifteen or so. lulu lightning and chocobo race are nothing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtHqlCutl4

The horror. The horror.
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>tfw still haven't bothered finishing it even though I've done what is considered the hardest part of the gmme
Why do I do this to myself
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>>338073109
Story / endgame content

you still need to get all the celestial weapons and their sigils since those don't fall into the "consumable" category

>>338073531
You've defeated all the dark aeons?
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>Want to play X-2 for fun as fuck combat and job system.
>Autism won't let me start it until I beat X.
Suffering.
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>grind to max aeons stats
>get to the end of the game
>have to fight your own aeons.. and only throw gil seems to do any fucking damage
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>>338073293

>playing FFX for the story
>playing any FF game for the story
I know story is the focus, but they're possibly the worst stories I've ever seen in a JRPG. And FFX is second only to FFIV in stupid plot twists and bullshit triggers.

Its pretty bad when you play a 30 hours game, only to find out that you could have gotten the airship and rammed into Sin right when when met Rikku.
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>dodge 200 lightning bolts in a row

Literally who approved this shit under the guise of being a good idea?
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>>338073914
>le X-2 is better than X meme
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>want to play FFX remastered
>remember all the sigil grinds
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>>338073961
whatever you say chief
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>>338074082
>Best combat system
>Best job system
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>>338074028
Lulu is not viable in the endgame anyway, you can ignore that one.
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>>338074028

Does that trick still work, where you trigger a lightning strike by walking into that crater? That made it so much easier.
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>>338073914
>want to play X-2 and just relax
>can't force myself to do another chocobo race or dodge one more lightning attack

Really sucks since I was enjoying the game up until this point, never being able to complete X in it's entirety just kills my desire to play X-2.
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>>338074323
But onion knight is the coolest looking celestial weapon...
>DAT shield
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>>338069220
Video game confession thread?

It's never taken me more than a few tries to complete the chocobo race, but never once in my life have I dodged 200 lightning bolts.
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>>338074241
>Best combat system
>actualy liking atb system
kys
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HEY KID

I HEARD YOU LIKED DODGING LIGHTNING
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>not getting it out of the way in 15 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-ihMHRtJ8
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>it's a I can only play RPGs with fancy retardo jap sony graphics so I'll never know what a good RPG feels like episode
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>>338073961
Damn you just sperged out a bit there
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Nude mods when?
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>>338074241
>you can totally move except not really
>shitty dress-up sim
X-2 has the worst everything, including the combat system.
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How were you ever supposed to find the secret airship locations without having it spoiled for you?
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hold me /v/
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>>338076515
X-2 Yuna got a nude model for SFM semi-recently. Lulu also got one a long time ago but who the fuck cares about her.

Before that, Rikku, Yuna and Tidus from X got nude models for XPS that are rather shitty, but still better than nothing.

Ahh, I want a good nude model of X Rikku and Mindy
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>>338076814
Randomly clicking all over the map
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>>338076653
>ewww girls changing dresses
Underageb&
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is auron real?
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>>338073694

Dark Aeons aren't hard, they just require an autistic amount of grinding.
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>>338077276
They're still a lot harder than anything you'll encounter in the main story
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>>338076814

Buy the guide. No, really. Most obscure things like that are literally only in to sell guides. That's why the Zodiac Spear shitshow in FFXII was allowed to happen.
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>>338075861
It's an...
>ice on the road don't know where it goes episode
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>>338077276
Dark Anima raped me.
A lot.
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>>338077052
How can Auron be real, if our sin isn't?
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Firkraag was a little bitch
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>>338069220
I did that mini game when i was 13, it's not that hard retard.

>worst mini game in video game history
try dodging 200 lightnings without using the glitch.
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>>338077707
>finger of death
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>>338069220
>best weapon in the game is locked behind the best minigame in video game history
I fucking love Blitzball.
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>>338077707
If you ever had trouble, you weren't fielding enough wizards
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>>338073504
What the fuck happened?
https://youtu.be/D2Mft5YDHA4
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>all these FFX threads in last couple weeks
>implying PC isn't for console scraps
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>>338077276

This is true. I'll never undertand why people claim FF games don't require grinding. They actually take more grinding than most JRPG series because of shitty gameplay mechanics. Materia and FFTactics in particular.

Can you beat the game without grinding? Sure. But if you want to do anything actually fun, you have to grind for many hours.
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>>338077445
>Zodiac Spear shitshow
you just know that was fucking Kawazu's idea, too. exactly the kind of shit he would pull
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>tfw i actually got all the weapons (except wakka's fuck blitzball) back in the day
>tfw i never want to go through it again and that's the main reason i've never replayed 10
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sooo
if tidus isnt real
how come he can go to th farplane??
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I've always heard FF games have this kick ass job system, yet none of them I've played besides ARR have a job system. (Minus tactics)
Played 1, 2, 4, 7, 13 (for all of three hours), and now X.
No job system. Which of these 14 FF games actually use a job system I always hear about.
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>>338077445
>>338078265
Are secrets like that really a bad thing though, if the game is considered complete even without it being found?
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>>338074153
>>338076258
No, he's right. The stories are mostly shit.
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>Playing RPG
>Come across the worst minigame you could possibly imagine
>Immediately look up if anything is locked behind said minigame
>There's nothing
thanks FF9
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>>338070113
>The port itself is great, they messed up the faces a bit though
It blows my mind that they didn't use the high detail cutscene models for the normal game.
There is absolutely no reason to.
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>>338078486
Because he's something else entirely. A manifistation of the faith.

"undead" people can't go in there like auron or seymour for example.

He can because hes not even undead. He's just something else.
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>>338078832
Still sperged out
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>>338073109
What a very redundant question.
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>>338078502
I'd kind of count 1 since multiple playthroughs with different parties was pretty awesome especially at the time

other than that 3, 5, 11(mmo) and I THINK the international versions of 10 and 12 but i've never played them
also, any tactics, 4 heroes of light, Bravely Default/Second has the same job system and is essentially FF

i guess, technically, 13 but everything about it is shit so dont even bother
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>>338078954
they didnt mess them up a bit

they messed them up beyond reconstruction
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When i was younger, i used to ignore blue magic.
Now i cannot go on without a blue mage.
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>>338078989
alright
but auron is the same thing isnt he? clinging to life
did tidus really exit 1000 years back though?
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was auron murdered?
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>>338079234
I feel the same but
>Kimahri
Always an exception to the rule.
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>>338079238

They're very different. Tidus is basically a really small Aeon. Auron's an Unsent - usually an Unsent becomes a fiend, but if you're a stonking huge badass like Auron or Seymour you can cling to your human body through force of will.

>>338079401

No, he tried to take on Yunalesca at SL1 and got his fucking ass kicked. He started it.
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>>338078541
it's not so bad if it's just super secret and you have to look it up

anything missable is annoying, though, even if it's not "required." zodiac spear had idiotic requirements you could fuck up by accident just playing the game normally if you didn't look it all up beforehand
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>>338079543
>No, he tried to take on Yunalesca at SL1 and got his fucking ass kicked. He started it.
kek what
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>>338079401
No. He got his stupid ass killed when he tried to kill Yunalesca by himself.
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>>338069220
Calabadahbadoo was awful though. You could piece together a much better weapon and its only redeeming quality, the damage break could be acquired through other means.
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>>338079401
He got wrecked by yunalesca and died after rin helped him.
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>>338079238
>did tidus really exist 1000 years back though?

Have you only played X? If so then no.

Have you played X-2? If so then kind of.
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>>338079760

Have you read FFX-2.5? Then he did exist, but then died.
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>>338077445
>implying Zodiac was the worst
At least you could potentially find it by yourself. Excalibur 2 in FFIX is literally unobtainable if you're playing the game the way it was designed to be played.
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>>338079925
>Have you read FFX-2.5?
Has anyone willingly?
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tfw at the thunder plains

tfw expert grid

tfw tidus has under 1k hp

welppppppppp
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>FF13 is bad
>FF10 and 10-2 combined are FF13
>FF10 and 10-2 are good
??????
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>>338080558
the characters are way better , the story more interesting than all of ff13 games together
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>>338080614
>characters are way better
>tidus
>wakka
>seymour
>paine is literally lightning

>story is more interesting
>good guys become bad guys in the world view and accept they are bad guys in the other peoples eyes and go to save the world from god
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that's not blitzball
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>>338080885
>fal cie a shit
>some gods that look like crystal

>sin
>huge motherfucking sea creature
>machines

yeah
noe
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>>338069220

I love FFX but its ultimate weapons minigames are the most obnoxious sidequesting in any JRPG.
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How is blitzball in X-2?

I never played it when I was younger and kinda want to try it now.
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>playing ffx for the first time
>breezing through the game, enjoying the battle system, grinding is fun
>get to zanarkand
>fight with the first summoner yunalesca
>beat 2 forms in like 4-5 turns each
>third form instantly kills my whole party
>instantly open /v/ trying to find ffx thread to whine about it

no, but seriously what the fucking shit
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>>338071872
My record for that game is just shy of megative 8 seconds. You should have zero issue hitting 0.000 seonds. Focus son, theres a pattern to the baloons. Do a few tuns not even trying to win just watch the baloons.
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>>338081036

I don't know. Remember hunts in FFXII? Chocobo Breeding in FFVII? Final Fantasy as a whole just has shit optional content.
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>>338069220
>mfw i got sun sigil on first try
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>>338069220
w8 to see how to get Lulu ultimate weapon
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>>338074357

The Thunderbolt dodging was near impossible for me on the PS3 due to the input lag or HDTV lag, whatever it was, I was not able to dodge on time like I did on the PS2.

There is a specific spot in the area where the lightning strikes are predictable, have to youtube to find it.
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>>338081915
>not wakka
>have to play a billion blitzball matches
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Should I do the international content or hop right onto X-2? Haven't tried either yet.
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>>338081579
If you're having real issues there's always Jewjimbo
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>>338081579
You gotta be wary of Zombie dude.

and making sure you use protect/reflect so she cant heal.

If you can't do it you can always role the dice with Kojima
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>>338072361
It's not the game

You are playing the game on a HDTV that has a lot more lag than the CRT you probably played the PS2 version on
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>>338082049
>>338082259
jim what?


and it wasnt zombie that killed me, it was multi death spell on first turn when she turned into giant ugly head
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>>338082414
>Not getting the optional Aeons
They're all broken as fuck anyway, don't get them just yet.
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>>338078502
3 and 5. Four warriors of light too
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>>338082526
i kind of lost interest to finish the game anyway, it was kind of fun but bosses were becoming more and more cheap and now this bullshit
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Auron's daughter playable when?
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>>338082812
Oh well, you were almost done though.
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>>338082526
>reach the temple with anima
>I'm missing one extra chest
>it's the one in Besaid
>no biggie just fly there
>mfw fucking DARK VALEFOR POPS OUT OF NOWHERE AND SLAUGHTERS MY PARTY

That is probably one of the worst placed "features" in the history of gaming

I spammed Yojimbo on him until I got the OHKO, took me like 20 tries
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>>338069220
I got insanely lucky on my PC playthrough. I got a negative time within about twenty minutes. I got 00:02 a bit earlier and almost gave up, figuring I wouldn't have a chance of getting anywhere near that again.

Dodging Lightning tho...
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>>338069220
>best weapon
>gets weaker as you lose hp

Pick one.
Just make a damn weapon with the four abilities you want and fuck the Celestial weapons.

>>338069989
>capture
>break damage limit
>one shot everything while you capture

What's so hard about that?
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What's the chance of getting this thing on Steam? It's the only missing 3D FF game and the only one I didn't play yet
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>kimahri somehow mistakenly ends up as your best party member
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>>338069220
>easiest minigame ever
Stick to the right and if there isn't a balloon immediately after your first turn, reset. There are three possible setups for balloons, the easiest route has a balloon immediately to the right after you make your turn.

You can get 19 balloons on that route very easily, and there are fewer red birds as well.

Also, you're terrible at videogames if this is giving you problems.

Enjoy Lulu's bullshit.
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>>338081579
She can't kill you using mega death if you're a zombie.
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>>338082414
The Death spell punishes you for healing out of Zombie. If your guys are still Zombified, then the spell won't do shit against you.

Third form casts the death spell every five turns. If you're gonna heal your guys, make sure they're zombified again before her casts it again
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>Sigils
I forget which one, but I remember one being protected later on by a Dark Aeon if you didn't pick it up earlier in the game.

I wasted fucking hours summoning Yojimbo and throwing my whole wallet hoping to use Zanmato, then and having to reload over and over because he would get one-shot.
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>>338083332
I'm hopeful that it will crop up again.

Honestly, I just wish they'd redo the other ports. V and VI are really janked on PC.
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Just learn the route faggot
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>>338082921

On the plus side, at least you can grab Valefor's second overdrive!
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>>338083747
>>338082921
>>338082921
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>>338083747
That's Tidus's. If you don't grab it after beating Yunalesca, you have to face fucking Dark Bahamut. At least getting Auron's last overdrive just requires facing Dark Valefor.
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>>338083332

They'll probably announce it for PS4 at E3 for a release this autumn. After that, it'll be a year or two before it makes it over to PC. Just emulate it, man.
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I'd rather have to grind Chocobo Races then play an hour of 13
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>>338083982
is his last overdrive even worth it
i dont think i ever got it, guaranteed full break on his third OD is just too sweet
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>>338069220
Lucky for you. Mine is locked behind this mini-game and Dark Bahamut.
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>>338081829
>actually hating on hunts
End yourself.
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Celestial Weapons are worthless.
You can make better weapons yourself that don't lose damage when you lose HP, and that don't require dumbass games to unlock. Same thing goes for armor.
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>>338084609

It's nowhere near as good as his second or third overdrives since it's just straight damage, but it's so fucking badass I can't resist getting it every playthrough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjbFEvsvWwI
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>>338084609
Nope

It's single hit, that means it cannot be abused like Tidus, Wakka and Rikku

Tidus/Wakka/Rikku is the best lategame party with Yuna subbing in sometimes because her aeons are great

Lulu's damage (and magic in general) is pretty useless. Actually, if you get the 3 BLK Magic spheres in the second half in the game, get Lulu her three -aga spells and then use those to teach Yuna, Yuna will outdamage her without even dipping into Lulu's sphere grid

Auron is way too slow and his overdrives suck

The furry is a meme character
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>>338084609
It hits every enemy twice if done right so it can do a lot more damage than the third one. Depends on the vulnerabilities of the boss.

Personally, my favourite is the second one (which is effectively a Death spell when used right) because I used it to start off a Boss fight and happened to find a vulnerability. Auron just knocked this giant lizard thing out of the battle and I won. It was pretty fun.
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>>338083332
Literally muh dick. I need a 4k penelo's ass.
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>>338084849

>repetitively running into the same areas just to kill an enemy a moogle told you to kill
>fun
End yourself.
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>>338085038
>It's single hit
It hits twice in the international version. Still not as useful as TWR tho.
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>>338085050

>Using Shooting Star on a Sand Worm
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>>338083332

Just emulate it. The PS2 emulator was initially designed for the sole purpose of playing FF12 and it's so well optimized you could probably play it on a can opener, a manual one.
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>>338084954
>>338084609
Blitz Ace does 9 attacks, which is better than Slice and Dice at 6, so yeah; it's worth it. An extra 300k damage isn't anything to shake a stick at.
He's tied with Rikku for second most hits (9).

Wakka's still the best damage, though, at 12 hits.
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>>338074508
i used a frame limiter to slow down time for the Lulu lightning plains thing and the chocobo bullshit
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>>338085262
Not him, but I've had graphic glitches or framerate issues everytime I've tried pcsx2. Anything I should try?
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>>338078954
Except when they no longer have the original assets to use. Which is a common issue with Square and most JRPG devs doing this shit in general. They didnt give a fuck about preserving any of it.
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>>338085250
Yeah, that was funny as fuck. I wasn't expecting a 42000 HP fucker to pop up so I started unleashing ODs and it just went flying.
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>>338069220
>worst

That's actually a fun minigame. The butterfly search was pure bullshit.
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>>338085642
>Except when they no longer have the original assets to use.
Explain the pre-rendered background then.
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>>338078850
Jump rope with Vivi?
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Retarded question but this time I decided to play with lulu. Does her capture weapon work with magic?
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>>338085612

Hard to say, is it with all games or just FF12?

Easiest way to fix an emulator problem is to just download the newest version and see if that did the job.
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>>338083204
>What's so hard about that?
Dude I steamrolled 4 times the omega ruin and I only saw 4 fucking tonberrys.
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ffx endgame is dumb
x2 is better
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>>338069220
I somehow beat this after only a few tries on the PS2 version years and years ago. I have no idea how, as I was significantly worse at video games when I did this. Now, I hear horror stories of this stupid minigame.

I feel like I avoided a catastrophe. Honestly, I'm deathly afraid of trying it ever again, because I know it'll destroy me.

>>338070124
I think the only one I never got was Lulu's, because I'm not putting myself through the lightning dodging. No way. Might've skipped Rikku's, too, because she's useless.

Don't give me that "B-but muh Mix!" shit. Rikku can suck a dick. But not mine, because she's also ugly as fuck. Fight me.
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they had one fucking job

just fucking one

let us skip cutscenes


FOR FUCK SAKE
this game is fun to play but aside from like 3 cutscenes, the entire fucking story and dialogue are cringe inducing

jesus christ i was 13 when i played it and even then i was scared someone might see me watching the HAHAHA scene or even most of normal dialogues

fucking "sorry, yes, i must, i apologize, ..." yuna
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>>338086962
>i was 13

And you still are.
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>>338086468
There is one room to the right as you enter that spawns nothing but tonberries.
Each room has it's own spawnrates of various things.
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200 lightning bolts was autism but Only took 30 minutes.
Chocobo racing was tough but only took a few tries if you got gud
But Blitzball for Wakka's weapon? FUCK THAT. I thought blitzball was harmless although horrible until I had to spend half a day to get Wakka's Sigil and weapon playing that shittu,repetitive broken piece of shit minigame
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>>338086820
It's easy as balls. You just got the easiest of the three tracks.
You can literally just lollygag around and pick up as many balloons as you want on that track.
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>>338069220

The old PS2 version's was glitched on top of it all if I remember correctly, I remember an entire FAQ dedicated to that one mini-game and the level of IF IT'S SUNNY OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW COUGH AND TURN SIDEWAYS random chance to it because of however it was coded.
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>>338087269
>Each room has it's own spawnrates of various things.
literally wrong
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>>338069220
the worst part is that you actually need time below 0.0s
game just doesnt show anything lower than 0.0s

if you get exactly 0.0s, you still wont get the sigil
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>>338087368
>Retarded namefag doesn't know about sitting in goal after scoring one trick
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>>338086069
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Even worse is if you decide to leave it until Chapter 5, you have to sit through an overly long transition between Zidane and Vivi's models because white boys can't jump

>>338086228
Nope
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>>338077602
Fuck em', just overdrive summon Yojimbo and pay him to one hit kill everything. The only thing it doesn't work on is dark Yojimbo because you have to kill him multiple times in a row and you'd need an insane amount of money to do that over and over. Even works on Penance once you get past dark Yojimbo's gauntlet.
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>>338087507
>>338087269
Areas do have different spawn rates. There is a room where Tonberries are more likely to appear (but not just them - expect lots of Magic Pots as well). It's the green room a short way into the cavern.

There's also that golden bird that's rare in Djose Road. You can find them much more frequently in the sunny part where the road splits.

If you're still questioning area distribution, think of Bikanel where that one area of the desert has loads more Zu/Sand Worms?
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That chocobo balloon race was the ONLY good minigame in FFX. The rest were absolute shit.

Bliztball, dodging 200 lighting bolts,etc. Fuck off
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>>338088369
yeah but that area is separated from the other area by loading screen
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You either love Blitzball or you hate it. No in between.

/sp/ loves it
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>>338088728
No it's not. There's a save sphere and some text that says 'Harder enemies to the left' or some such bullshit. You just walk to the left and there's some ruins. Around there, you'll constantly run into Zus and Sandworms. Around the Save Sphere, it's normal enemies.

Trust, I ground my Bikanel catches earlier today.
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>>338069967
Nope...everything after 10 is worse.
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>>338069967

worse than 13? what the fuck are you guys smoking
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>>338070304
FUCKING THIS. Thunder Plains is a close second, even with the crater trick. 0 seconds on that race is fucking babby-tier compared to these two and shows how shit /v/ is at videogames when they whine about it.
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>>338078023
Best chocobo theme
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Why do people hate blitzball? Shit was fun
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>>338089414
To be fair you start with the worst team. Christ even kilika beast aren't that bad.
Fucking keepa.
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>>338069220
That doesn't look like blitzball.
The lightning shit was pretty bad too.

Why are all the minigames in FFX so fucking bad?
Well not that FFX itself is good except for the battle system.
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>>338089512
datto is a baller

his speed goes off the fucking charts as he levels up

keepa is garbage tho
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>>338078023
KWEH
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>>338069220
>>best weapon in the entire game is locked behind the worst mini-game in video game history
That's not gen 4 Pokemon contests
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What is the best minigame in FF?

My vote goes to Chocobo Hot & Cold in FFIX.
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>>338069220
this was fucking easy, did it in 15 minutes of trying.

>implying lightning isn't the worst minigame in video game history

I got to 12 max
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>>338090437
Jump rope is way worse. 1000 jumps, man. For an utterly pointless key item.
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>>338090584
jump rope? I don't remember that
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>>338090786
FFIX.
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>>338090050
Interesting tidbit; when he starts to get to a higher level (around 60 or so), Keepa's SHT stat starts to skyrocket. His other stats remain garbage, but at level 99 he actually has the highest shot power in the game, the only character able to reach 99. Talk about a lethal joke character!
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>>338090350
The card games in 8 or 9.
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>>338077574
>it's a blood on the snow episode
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I was gonna make a thread on this but I checked first.
I beat it when I was a kid too but must still do it again
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>>338069220
The butterfly catcher game is worse.

>>338088369
>>338087269
>>338087507
>>338087269
>>338086468
>>338088728
There are different spawn rates that aren't seperated by loading screens. For example in the Cavern of Stolen faith, tonberries spawn in the green room at a significantly higher rate.
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>>338088863
>their will never be a yearly Blitzball game
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>>338092518
wheres the proof of that
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My blitz team is better than yours desu senpai
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I can't go on.
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>>338093217
You can do it, anon.

I did it after a whole day of failed attempts, it's all about the right starting RNG.
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>>338093209
>Linna
mein nigger
Al bhed have the best blitzball players btw.
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>>338093209
Who the fuck is done?
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>>338089414

Its under water water polo. With a turn based system. Taking a sport and making it turn based is stupid enough. But to take fucking water polo? And not even modify the rules even a little? That's just plain laziness.

Then, when you actually try to 'get gud' at the game, its as shallow as a kiddie pool. Just take Brother, give him the ball and score 10 points a match. Everyone else on your team, including Tidus, just become passers to get the ball to Brother. Then in order to get Wakka's ultimate weapon, you need to just keep playing games until a specific league event comes up. Once it does, you just play it, get the ball, then never need to play Blitzball again. All of this can be done before Brother even hits level 20 in Blitzball.

And that's just the problem with the gameplay itself. Its stupidity tied to the plot is a whole other kettle of fish. Wakka and Tidus having to throw a game because Yuna got kidnapped is one of the dumbest plot points in a game full of dumb plot. Made completely pointless later on when you know who the Al Bhed are. It basically breaks the number one rule of writing, don't add something that doesn't enhance the characters or plot. But every time blitzball appears, it breaks that rule so hard, a Jecht Shot couldn't fit it.
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>>338093027
Mutual experience. Try it and see.
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>>338093620
Linna has such good attack, block and shot early on. Basically the best recruit you can get when you just start blitzing.
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>>338092556

Is Nimrook elite?
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>>338093819
>Wakka and Tidus having to throw a game because Yuna got kidnapped
You can win that game tho...

I don't think Blitz is separate from the story. The mini-game is obviously completely separate outside of that one instance, but that's totally fine. It's a mini-game. Beating said minigame doesn't need to be central to the plot.

The game itself is pretty well tied in. It fuels Tidus and Jecht's relationship and also shades in Wakku's characterisation, especially in contrast with Lulu.
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>>338093620
>when your first tournament has attack reels and you meet fucking psyches on lv1
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>>338094126

Being a side game doesn't excuse it from being bad. But since they make it central to the plot, it doesn't even have the excuse of being optional. And its not just the one tournament where the blitzball comes up. Its tied to the religion and two main characters. And that stupid fucking hand gesture they do at least 100 times over the game.
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>>338069220
Blitzball is worse tbqh.
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>>338093209
>Naida
>Linna
Good taste.
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>>338082414
It's basically the only fight in the game that requires you to do anything other than

>what is this weak to
>spam that until it's dead

so I can understand your confusion. Zombie makes you immune to Death, and if you put reflect on her you she can't heal yourself. The fight is really about how well you can manage zombie modes (undoing zombie to heal but getting re-zombied before she casts megadeath again), hastes, and reflect shenanagins (things can't reflect twice, so if you reflect one of your guys and cast damage spells on them you can hit her with it even if she's reflected to stop her from healing).
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>>338073961
>you could have gotten the airship and rammed into Sin right when when met Rikku.
But that's wrong though, they would've just died horribly. Getting inside Sin required having most of Spira singing together and it still almost got them killed
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>>338094498
The hand gesture is a prayer and only relates to Blitzball in a dream.

It is a bad side game but it's totally superfluous. Lose the first game and never touch it again if you hate it.

Again, Blitzball as a concept might be tied to Wakka and Tidus (not to the religion though?) but the mini-game is totally separate. So your opinion of the mini-game shouldn't affect the actual story.
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So, do you think FFX-3 will actually happen? That audio tape at the end made it sound pretty likely. It'd make sense why FFX HD is on fucking everything now.
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>>338082921
I remeber this happening to me. Had to savescum Yojimbo
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>>338073961
You do realize the very ship you ram sin into at the end of the game is the same ship you go into at the beginning of the game that is sunken down into the ocean right? The ship was still being worked on when you met rikku. The ships first flight is literally when you blow up the al bhed home town.
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>>338071872
The balloons are always in the same place, the shit tossed at you follows the same patterns (I think there's three?), and the chocobo tries to fuck you up the same way each time.

Just watch someone play it on youtube a few times to see how it's supposed to be done and just do that. With a few rounds of practice you'll nail it.

What I HATED was Wakka's ultimate weapon. Because I hated Blitzball.

Oh well, not as bad as Sphere Break in X-2. I just collect as many of those damned things as I can before chapter 3, then use that "I HATE SPHERE BREAK!" website to figure the game out for me.
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>>338074508
Conversions?
I beat X-2 but quit X before rescuing Yuna.

I don't regret it.
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>>338095130
>The balloons are always in the same place
That could not be more of a lie
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>>338069839
bad from a general standpoint but still way better than PS2 emulation
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>>338074353
In the remakes on PS3 & 4 yeah.
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>>338095227
>the balloons don't exist
>the balloons are your mother
>every time you start the game you lose a year from your life

It could most definitely be more of a lie
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>>338094671

Not to mention that the airship was being repaired to even work in the first place while you were dicking around with the first two thirds of the game..
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>>338095349
>the balloons don't exist
This is true. Our brains interpret a pattern of lights on a 2D screen as balloons.
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>>338094931
No. Square is releasing all their old games on other platforms to get as much money as they can out of their IPs. Didn't you notice VI, VII, VIII, and IX come to PC?
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>>338095568
stfu nerd
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>>338095106
>>338094671

The point is that Yuna and all her story is virtually pointless in relation to getting the airship or fighting Sin. Yuna's story is about 15 hours of filler until you actually confront the church and learn all the truth. Then with this information, Tidus rallies the population and Yuna to aid him.

Basically, there are dozens of points across the story where Tidus could have been told the truth and come to the end sooner. But a combination of Yuna's story and all the people he encounters conveniently hiding the truth makes the game longer. In other words, tons of world building to make a weak story seem deep.
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>>338073961
You 'could' have rammed Sin once the airship was up and running but you wouldn't have because you don't have a fucking clue that that would achieve anything. The journey is about summoning the final aeon, realising what that entails, rejecting it and then finding a new method. That's not a failing of the story. It's actually a strength. The characters didn't just go on a journey to get the airship and then use it to defeat Sin. They went on a journey, challenged their initial assumptions and sought a new way to succeed.

It's not the greatest story in the world but it holds up pretty fucking well against other entries in the FF series, regardless of how you feel about Tidus before he matures.
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>>338078486
>>338079238
Tidus is a "dream of the Faith", which means he's an "Aeon" created without the willing sacrifice of a living being. As he never lived, he can enter the Farplane all he wants.

HOWEVER!!! Tidus was based on an actual Guardian during the Great War, as were the people in the Dream Zanarkand. Which is why his "mother" appears in the Farplane - it wasn't really his mother but the original soul "his mother" was based upon.
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>>338080029
BLITZ-BOOOOOM
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>>338095728
i dont care about any of that. you are flat out wrong in series of events with your rikku comment. That is my point. The story is par for the course. nothing amazing . just typical Japanese story writing.
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>>338095728
You don't learn the full truth until you face Lady Yunalesca. It's then that Yuna decides she will not sacrifice one of her friends and realises why Tidus and Rikku won't allow her to sacrifice herself. They reject the Final Summoning and it is only then that an alternate option is searched for. They have to face Yunalesca to learn about Yevon and leaving Zanarkand is when they get the clue that Sin is calmed by the hymn. Yuna's arc is integral because it leads to her rejection of the conventional way of destroying Sin. Without it, the characters randomly decide that this centuries old ritual is not the way to go, randomly deduce that they can stop Sin by getting inside him and deduce that the hymn will calm Sin without any real indication as such.
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>>338095728

It's a story, in a videogame, everything is "pointless."

Narratively, the yuna story is what reveals to you the reality of the church and adds weight to the reveal by enmeshing you deep in their most important of bullshit.

If you want a story that consists of "There's a bad guy, here are 100 levels of monsters to grind on until you can fight him," then play an MMO.
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>>338085262
>those fucking textures for that fucking gigantic game
How much did the devs cry when they saw it running at 480p?

Anyway, MODDING IS HERE BOYZ
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X/X-2_HD_Remaster
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>>338096380

>It's a story, in a videogame, everything is "pointless."
Which doesn't bode well since Final Fantasy games focus on story over everything else.
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>>338094581
It just takes way too long, with blitzball losing its appeal as soon as you realize how dumb the AI is.
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>>338081579
>he doesn't use rikku
Kek. Here's how you do that fight
>equip rikku with alchemist weapon that you get from chest earlier in the game
>keep party hasted with tidus
>auto attack with tidus and 3rd person of choice
>use rikku to heal with hipotions and al bhed's since the effects are doubled
>eye drops for the darkness
>its easy to keep up since her agility is so high you get 4 turns before yunalesca gets 1
>when zombie phase comes just let people die over time while auto attacking
>phoenix downs res for full life with alchemist

And you win. No need to use aeons or overdrives.
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>get wakka's stone ball
>literally breaks the game

Why is this weapon so OP?
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>>338096070

Like happy festival fireworks, ya?
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>>338097194
You're fucking yourself out of x2AP from Overkilling fiends. It's only worth it if you're too low level to deal with some nasty enemies.
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>>338095227
They aren't randomized, mate. There's only a few different patterns.
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>>338097415
>was this autism?
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I did all of them when I was 11. Not only that, but I'd let my brother spray me with a hose and burn me with lighters just so I could use his PS2.

/v/ isn't casual, is it?
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>>338097519
But they're not 'always in the same place'

You can't predict where there'll be prior to starting the race. Better just to practice dodging birds and only grab balloons that are in your path. When you're good at avoiding birds, start taking more risks for balloons. You need to hit about 14/15. Less if you can avoid all birds.

One trick is not to go for the very first balloon because the trainer will almost always get it and push you behind her. If you run straight, you usually get a slight lead and can grab the other 3/4 balloons on the upper level. That helps a lot.

Making a tight turn is also important. More important than grabbing a stray balloon near the turn. Get that turn perfect and you'll have a good lead and can focus on birds without worrying about balloons getting snatched by the trainer.

Suggesting people win by learning balloon placements is pointless. Focus on technique and then, when the random chance plays to your favour, you can win it.
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>>338096380
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>338097554
>go to the grocery store after the gym today to buy chicken and broccoli
>checkout girl is a 6/10
>tell the girl at checkout I don't need a bag
>she giggles
>your wish is my command
>look her in the eyes confused as to why she said that
>she instantly looks down and starts mumbling something
>i don't know why I said that
>woops
>i laugh it off with her and say "you too" when grabbing my stuff to mess with her
>her face turns red and she thanks me

Girls sometimes have pasta in their pockets too
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