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>20 tick servers
>people defending this
>>338059317
>Auto Aims
>>338059317
I don't like it, but the game plays relatively nice and people aren't teleporting like they would on Valve's shitty rental PWL servers.
>>338059317
battleborn fags this mad
>>338059317
It also has the best lag compensation algorithm I have seen, hence the low tick rate. Blizzard are smart, you are not.
>>338059317
You pre ordered battleborn didn't you anon?
>>338059919
this guy sounds like he knows how servers work
this
>>338059317
i was skeptic at first but it was not really that bad experience compared to valve servers. only problems had was roadhogs hook that catched people behind wall and snipers usually died same time but otherwise nobody was lagging or missing aims
>>338059787
what battleborn fags?
Looking for the cheapest overwatch key. Any help?
>>338059317
>$60 (US DOLLARS) (SIXY) (SIX ZERO)
>...
>for Team Fortress 2.3
Can someone explain tickrate to me? I'd never even heard of it until this meme came about.
>>338062348
40$
FTFY
>>338062562
$90
FTFY
>>338062348
$40 but I know this is bait
>>338062424
it's pretty much how many times the server updates a second. the higher the more accurate it is.
>>338062424
A tickrate is how many times per second the server updates.
20 tickrate is absurdly fucking low. Generally, the higher the tickrate, the smoother and more accurate aiming and hit detection are.
>>338062562
consolefags like him have no choice :^)
>>338059317
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>>338062595
>paying for a "muh skins" edition
>>338059317
you are talking about people who played and paid full price for wow for 10 years. let it sink a minute.
>>338062424
The game client runs at 60 ticks, which is how often the game checks for positions of characters, but the data sent back from the server is only 20, causing very bad lag, and people being shot seemingly behind walls.
>>338062689
I paid $50 for the regular version
>>338059919
then why have i been killed behind cover due to the hit registering late?
>20 person playerbase
>people defending this
>>338062653
The server updates 62.5 times per second
it just sends updates to you 20 times per second
>>338062694
Actually friend it's $120
>can't even set up custom pony sprays
>no custom dedicated servers for roleplay
>no trading skins for keys, idling does nothing for drops
wow shit game
>>338059317
I never noticed anything that would make this 20tick meme cause the game to perform poorly.
I did notice that during a beta participated by 9.7 million people that I had no instances of lag, and I never felt unjustified in hitting a target that I obviously hit.
In comparison to shit like CS and TF2, where lag was everywhere and servers were constantly shitty. I had a better experience with Overwatch, overall.
>>338062753
S-Shut up I b-bought it for s-s-single p-player anyway!!
>>338062752
Ryuuga wagatekiwo kurau!
>>338062789
jokes on you. It's actually $240 if you buy 2 copies
>>338062689
nice maplebucks, at least you got your legal weed now
>>338062689
>actually thinking Canuckbucks are real money
You fell for the meme.
>>338062842
It makes hit defections really, really shitty.
CS:GO is 124 or something right?
>>338059919
>best lag compensation algorithm
>being this impressed by client side hit reg
but anyway, when I played in the beta there were only a few issues that may have been due to tickrate and the game played just fine.
>>338062424
low tickrate causes lag and it causes character's movement to not accurately match what their players do.
>>338062752
nothing can compensate for your BR internet, shitskin
>One week ago people were loving this game
>Now the buttblasts are coming out in full force to try and deter people
>Some are actually trying to make others play Battleborn instead
>>338062968
but it was a mcree
>>338062348
it's 40.
>>338062978
Haha friend it's actually $360 if you buy 3 copies.
>>338062753
holy shit
>>338063094
Do i get it free if i own the Microsoft XBOX360™?
>>338063087
That's a weird way to say dragon born hanzo
>>338063054
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about, so I spew racism and memes.
Sometimes I forget where I am, I guess.
>>338059603
FUCKING GET RID OF THESE PWL SERVERS.
So tired of these shitty servers PLAGUING every source-engine game made by those jewish fucks Valve.
ITT: people with no idea how game networking works discuss game networking
>>338063216
But i died
>>338063012
You say that, but I noticed nothing wrong with hit detection. I hit when I obviously hit, I missed when I obviously missed.
I'd give more of a shit about the 20tickrate meme if I actually saw it be a detriment to gameplay, but that never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ
No one has posted this yet
ROU GA WAGITEKA GA CURAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
>>338063370
or this, surprisingly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ
>>338059919
Oh yes! What great lag compensation!
We should drop the tickrate of every multiplayer game in the near future and just accept everything the client says!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBZj4c_j9Qs
Ubisoft and Blizzard should get together and make games.
>>338062752
well thats the downside of 20 tick, but id take that over valve 66 tick with half hits not registering, during open beta i havent had a single shot as widowmaker that was on point but missed, whereas in csgo almost every match i had shots from sniper rifles with bloodsplatters ( meaning its not first shot rng fault ) and then get killed by same dude and get told i did 0 damage to him. Blizzard really did some magic with the netcode, granted its a bit wasted on a game where over half of the classes don't need to aim precisely.
>>338062562
>>338062640
>>338063089
$60 for console gamers. Blizzard shills will defend them actively trying to take a dump in console gamers' collective mouths and ask for seconds. Do you want a vibrant community across all platforms? Stop trying to gouge console gamers.
I'll wait until it's either F2P or $15 which it'll be in 3 months after the community collapses.
>>338063054
but i'm on a 250/100 line
>>338063927
You'll probably be playing Battleborn while you wait?
>>338063927
>console gamers
>think it's no big deal
>try out the beta
>get hit behind walls constantly, my escape abilities don't activate on response they have to be hit pre-preemptively
>>338064020
>Battleborn
Literally who?
>>338064028
PKeks are funny. I have a gaming PC I just hardly use it. I'd prefer to play with my IRL normie friends that own consoles. What's it like being too poor to afford multiple platforms?
>>338059317
>it's an artistic choice for the sake of fairness
they need to please the casual (incapable) audience.
>>338064213
You paid for a stupid rock that everybody plays with and it's all worn out and rubbish
I paid for a shiny diamond that nobody else has but me, and it's beautiful
So Why doesn't it have a higher tickrate? Something technically getting in the way, or is it somehow more expensive to do or what?
>>338064213
I have a Wii U which I bought for Splatoon. All of my friends play on PC – I literally don't know anyone with a PS4, etc. Having "a steam account" and playing games there is way more "normie" than having a console.
I don't really like console games either. Why would you choose to play a PC shooter on a console?
>>338064571
>or is it somehow more expensive to do or what?
I believe this.
It's litterally their servers that aren't sending the same info back. They get 60 ticks from the client but the server only sends out 20.
>>338064571
They'll likely raise it when the game launches.
>>338062753
jesus christ every time i see this art style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ
>>338064794
>style
>>338064643
>Overwatch
>PC Shooter
It's a casual team game at best. There's nothing challenging about the game so stop acting like it's something to take seriously.
>>338063786
c l i e n t s i d e
hit detection
this is not magic
>>338065075
Right, but you can still play to win and try to be organized about it, akin to PUGs in TF2.
still
>playing any shooter on a console
>>338064213
>PC gamers
>What's it like being too poor to afford multiple platforms?
are you retarded?
The only "PC gamers" this applies to is faggots who got a laptop for college that they play games on
>>338059317
This really is not worth crying over unless you're in elite competitive play, in which case you can check the 60-tick option in a custom game
I'm worried how long the content will last
after a couple of hours you'd see all that there is
>>338062064
The reason for that is actually because his hook is hitscan
>>338065289
Gamepads take more skill to use effectively. This isn't up for debate -- it's a fact. I regularly get on Red Orchestra 2 or Planetside 2 and shrek PC gamers no problem. KB/M is ez pz.
Come to console and learn to play effectively. That's why PCucks get so butthurt about gamepads -- because they can't fucking use them.
>>338065654
ye watched explained it well
>>338064903
>>338065623
like in every fucking MP shooter???
>>338065623
>I'm worried this video game will be a video game
>>338065623
I'm afraid multiplayer-only shooters aren't for you
>>338063064
>>One week ago people were loving this game
Don't you mean Blizzard marketing team flooding /v/ with the exact same posts during the beta?
>>338065735
uncomfortable truth for pc gamers
what is tick and why should I care?
>>338065735
>Gamepads take more skill to use effectively.
Because they're an inferior, less precise control device.
Apart from Splatoon's gyro controls. Fucking spot-on.
>>338065735
>takes skill
>aim assist exists in every console game setting
>inb4 dumb frogposter
>>338066316
how often the server updates your position, meaning with low tick you will frequently get killed when it looks like you've already gotten behind a wall/used a skill/etc.
>>338066237
nice one samefag
>>338059317
20 tick is pretty fucking cancer. That coupled with people not getting booted for shitty ping lead to a lot of getting hooked / shot through wall kill cams
It triggers me but luckily the game is fun otherwise. I really hope they raise the client tick rate and make it where some fuck can't have 800ms and not be kicked
>>338059317
I love how people pretrnd like this isnt a thing and how its not so bad. On roadhog and 76 is was hooking and shooting people around corners, I cant even name how many times I saw my hook go through a wall.
>>338066376
>>338066380
It's a well-known fact that gamepads are inferior to KB/M for shooters, I'm not denying that. But the fact is that a gamepad takes more skill to actually use effectively.
A literal retard can be good with KB/M.
You aren't supposed to use your feet to use a bow, but an archer that has become proficient in using their feet to operate said bow would be considered more skilled, no?
>>338065735
not true, PC gamers most of the time will have a controller that they know how to use, and no aim assisit
Watching a console gamer with little PC gaming experience try to game on a PC is like watching my grandpa try to type an email
>>338064213
How about you get friends that aren't normie faggots and can play with you on pc?
>>338066228
Haha nice meme dude, everyone hates this game I forget :^) Only shills would praise it of course, haha what a prankster
>paying 60 bucks for watered down tf2
>pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOc2kPqmXco
>>338066459
Oh that actually happened to me a lot, but I thought it was just lag.
What the fuck Blizzard?
>>338065735
>thinks console controllers are better than kb&m
epic meme
you got me anon
>>338059317
I'll be glad to suck the 20 tick dick. CSGO is fucking boring as fuck. I'm glad my normie friends are migrating to this
>>338064213
>I have a gaming PC I just hardly use it
Why would you lie on the internet?
>>338066585
So the steam controller is the best because its the most complicated and takes the most skill to use
FUN
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its fun thats why i bought it. Also custom games have a 60 tick option for tournaments etc
>>338065735
>my aim assist and bullet magnetism takes skill!
What a swell meme.
>>338066585
>But the fact is that a gamepad takes more skill to actually use effectively.
Because it's objectively worse.
>>338062753
That art makes it look like a browser mmo
>>338062174
those 3 who bought the game and forgot to refund it after 2 hours.
>>338066585
>thanks bro for the controller
>I got real skill over those PC gamers
>>338063927
>Console gamers
>Complaining about a game not being tf2
But tf2 is dead on consoles. It's $40 for people who get to complain about it not being tf2.
>>338062753
DON'T COMPARE IT. THEY'RE DIFFERENT GAMES YOU SHOULD STILL PLAY IT.lmao
>>338062753
Definitely looks like some ad you'd see on Newgrounds of like different stolen assets shown as one single game. All it needs is the big PLAY NOW under it
>>338066585
the gamepad will never outperform the KBM when you have the absolute maximum performance in consideration
therefore the KBM is objectively superior
>>338059317
>playing meme hero shooters
While the tickrate was noticeable with heroes like Winston, it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected it to be.
I would much prefer the tickrate to be higher, but the game is at least playable. Besides, it isn't like CS:GO is perfect even with its high tickrate.
>>338066778
No the user determines the skill. The platform is irrelevant.
>>338066867
Yes. A guy that can beat the shit out of you with one arm tied behind his back is more skilled than you.
>>338067201
>I can't read.
>>338067495
what the fuck does this webm have to do with tickrate? the OP wasn't even behind the wall
>>338066228
Everyone on /v/ is a marketer huh? So which games can we talk about that won't trigger you like a tumblr pig?
>>338066380
>>338066602
>>338066762
>>338066778
>>338066847
>>338066867
>>338067201
>this delicious asshurt because I revealed to PCucks that literal retards can be talented with KB/M
>>338067634
CS:GO's hit detection is fucked.
>>338066585
Then why dont competitive fps players on pc use controllers to rek the competition? o ya cause twitch shooting is way better with mouse
>>338067812
wtf is happening here?? huge fucklag?
>>338067812
>>338067495
The hitreg in CS:GO and TF2 has both somehow become far worse than it used to be
Lately I've been trying to play sniper in TF2 and perfect headshots with blood spray register as total misses regardless of tick and interp settings
>>338068019
>PKeks
>reading comprehension
Pick one and only one. Mom buy you that Alienware?
>>338065735
Kekasaur I bet you still use your eyes and hands when playing games. Don't even reply to this until you beat Battletoads using only your olfactory system.
>>338059408
It does not have autoaim.
>>338067797
>revealed to PCucks that literal retards can be talented with KB/M
When did you show this, all you have been doing is complaining how PC gamers are better because better controls,
But you never showed that console gamers skill translates when they play on a PC or that they can even preform near what PC players can.
When you only play with shit players with bad controls you are not going to get that good.
>tfw i have amazing fighting game skill because i beat soul caliber with a fishing rod
>>338068068
No, just QUALTY CS:GO bullet spread patterns.
>>338059317
isnt it like 60 down and 20 up or something which makes it sorta 45ish?
>>338066585
>but an archer that has become proficient in using their feet to operate said bow would be considered more skilled
Yes, but you can't get good at archery using your feet. Maybe you can beat crippled children in archery at the junior Olympics, but that doesn't mean you're skilled.
Try to play against halfway decent kbm players and you'll get shit on so hard they'll name a street after you in India.
>>338068859
*special Olympics
>>338068492
>3 down 3 right
>anime grills
>>338068520
I play PC all the time anon. I'm simply stating that KB/M is ez pz to be good with. I primarily use console but there's no denying KB/M is better, but it's because it's easier to use.
I play RO2 and Planetside 2 all the time, and been playing PC games since AvP Gold or BF1942 or Quake.
It's easy to twitch with KB/M. It's hard to be good with gamepad.
>>338066694
What's the matter with all the blatant YouTube shills recently?
>>338068068
It's a custom server, so I assume it's spawn protection settings of that server plugin
>>338059317
Eh, 20 ticks allowed me to play on the american servers and not see a difference or suffer from the lag.
I'll take that over getting killed by a gun that shot the space I was 5 seconds ago any day
>>338066585
Top-class idiot.
>>338069537
>Cucked
>>338062348
Have you ever woke up in the morning(afternoon)
Looked in the mirror
And said to yourself
"You know, I think I'll try not to be an insufferable faggot today"?
>>338069626
>only using one type of reaction image
>literally replying to every post
buy a life
>>338069695
>replying to dumb frogposters
>20 tick servers
>idiots don't know what it means and use it as word of the month
>>338069695
I've got plenty of Banes if you wanna be a big guy. I'm bored at work and have nothing better to do than ridicule Pkeks that won't get off their unjustified high-horse.
>>338062752
The hit is legit, but because you only receive data from the server at 20 tick, in some cases it looks like bullshit
You send data at 60 tick btw, so the server basically runs at 60, but only sends to the clients at 20
>>338069631
Blizzard drone detected. Lower the fucking price if you want me to buy it on console faggots.
>>338069969
>60 ticks outgoing
>20 ticks incoming
what is the purpose of deliberately fucking shit up like that though?
>>338069080
>I play PC all the time anon. I'm simply stating that KB/M is ez pz to be good with.
so a person who uses both devices is good on both but a console gaming skill does not translate at all to KB/M
I have watched many console gamers play even FPS on PC with controller because they suck at KB/M. The skills are not the same and they are not translateable. The inablity for console gamers to play with controllers from other systems just shows their "skill" is niche
>>338069913
>bored at work
sorry about your shit job
>>338070072
Shitposting edition
>>338070072
That's a nice button
>>338070306
Much less server costs.
>>/m/14220055
>mfw overwatch fags have no integrity and they're shilling on other boards now
>it's not even on /v/-related boards
>>338063018
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post replays
>>338070306
I dunno. But honestly the only issue I've experienced are some deaths behind cover like due to the server telling my client that I'm dead after I go behind a wall or some shit. Never felt cucked out of a kill because of it.
>>338070010
>playing shooter on consoles
Good god man. Do you have nay dignity?
>>338070986
>Playing online shooters on PC
Have fun getting killed by hackers.
>>338064213
I have like 6 IRL friends who all have rigs. Stop hanging out with fucking plebs
>>338070404
I'm not sure who you're watching do that. Literal assbabies I suppose. Anyone who is decent at vidya can pick up whatever input device and be proficient with it.
>>338070415
>shitty job
I'm sitting in my comfy office, posting on 4chan, getting paid.
>>338067812
>>338067495
1900 hours never happened to me once
>>338065735
>Gamepads take more skill to use effectively. This isn't up for debate -- it's a fact.
>>338070986
I have none, at all.
>>338071254
Yeah I've got two friends who have rigs but they never fuck with them either. My friends are plebs but they're my friends and it's more fun to play with people you know.
>4,385 In-Game
LOL IT'S DEAD
>>338071279
i'd prefer to do something productive and fun
>>338068507
It does
>>338071615
wat
>>338071694
No. Unless you count Soldier 76 ultimate?
>>338063012
You can't take tick rates of 2 completely different games and compare them and bam. Both games use completely different algorithms and programming to register hits, predict them, then compensate. They both have 2 different engines which work differently.
It's like taking to CPU from different companies and comparing their frequencies. It's not that simple.
>>338070814
Should post the original.
>>338071671
>i'd prefer to do something productive and fun
>he says while posting on 4chan
I can't contain these keks.
>>338071809
High Noon
I never got killed behind cover like you guys were saying would happen. Are there any video examples of 20 tick fucking things up?
The servers were also really fucking stable for the open beta despite like 8 million playing, probably because of the low tickrate. So I'm pleased with that.
>>338071883
it's 10pm for me.
>>338071946
That's not auto aim. That's headshot mods.
You also have Widowmaker Wall Hax. It's not a traditionnal FPS bro. It aint counter strike.
>>338071809
mercy, high noon, and winston.
Are people even defending this? I was under the impression that everyone realized higher tick rates would make the game strictly better.
>>338071809
>No. Unless you count Soldier 76 ultimate?
Are you that stupid?
>>338069080
you can be good at juggling your turds it doesnt mean its more useful than juggling a ball even though its harder to do
>>338071368
works for me :-)
>>338072084
>not out with the chads and fucking stacy
KEK
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>>338072010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDRyiLxRPLA
>ults
>starts recall
>killcam makes it look like he didn't do any of those
>>338072120
Two ultimates and a short range weapon.
>>338072137
Ultimate happen once every... 2-3 minutes. You do not have permanent auto aim.
Stop being dense on purpose.
>>338071789
i'm gonna go ahead and assume he's talking about battleborn, what with this being a overwatch thread and people are arguing over nothing again
>>338072235
wow that's pretty bad
>>338072274
>Overwatch
>Auto Aims
Yes
>>338059317
>implying that matters>>>/y/2268173
![titanfall-de-limportance-dun-bon-tickrate-ME3050237385_2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MxAoyJX.jpg "titanfall-de-limportance-dun-bon-tickrate-ME3050237385 2[1]")
>>338062424
Combine this with interpretation, which assumes you continue to move in the direction you've been moving until the next tick. If there's a disagreement between a player's position on different clients, the benefit goes to the shooter and not the guy getting hit (compensation)
>>338072274
What a casual game dude.
>>338072509
No.
>>338070814
>Filename is "Top Lucio Play"
>It's one of the most common moves a Pyro will do in TF2
So this is the Overwatch audience...
>>338066832
When does the fun start?
>>338072274
Your amount of butt-hurt is so much you can't even deny it.
You're pathetic.
>>338071143
All console shooters have hackers
It's called auto aim
>>338072604
To be fair, has less auto aim than halo and cod.
Soldier 76 is basically a CoD the Character. Can't tell if its a clever jab or if they made him solely for a codkids.
>>338072619
Pyros can boost speed and wallrun? Sign me the fuck up.
>>338070814
>Anak stopped playing Overwatch
Anak had the right idea
>>338072274
>Defending auto-aims
>"I mean it's 2016 c'mon
>>338072910
>Mentioning Cod and Halo in an Overwatch thred
That's when you know the game is shit.
>>338072951
>what is powerjack
>what is detonator jumping
I bet you feel really stupid now
>>338072605
You can say "no" all the times you want. Overwatch is a game for Blizzcucks that only played WoW and Diablo 3 on the last 10 years and can't play a normal FPS withouth insta-kill skills and autoaim.
Even the hitboxes are fucking huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFOFv1lVY_g
>>338072619
>overwatch not even out and had a few playerbase on the closed beta
>wow it doesn't have the cool moves that we've seen in a game that's been here for several years
no shit
Also less map and less way to environnemental kill
>>338073073
HOLY SHIT
>>338073037
Halofags are in every FPS thread, though?
>>338073051
>gimping yourself for movement
>>338072110
>Wall Hax
>It's not a traditionnal FPS bro
Well sorry to burst your bubble but I have some news for you.It's traditional
>>338073073
>tfw you solely play overwatch for Reinhardt so you don't give a shit about auto aim
Seriously, I've played him a million times more than any other character.
>>338073073
>aims directly at player
>hits
>WOOOW THESE HITBOXES ARE HUGE
>>338073073
>8:42
Holy shit that's horrible
>>338073073
>It's an artistic choice
>>338072910
Hes CoDbait basically. The devs already said so
>>338062708
Still just because you peeked and got back in cover doesnt mean they didnt shoot you when you did that on their screen right?
>>338073369
is this the same reliable ecchi deliverer sniper from like 6 years ago and longer? I stopped going on 4chan for a few years but yours was literally the only name I remember beause damn that was long ago
>>338073375
>Aims half a metter away from the player's head
>HEADSHOT
Blizzcucks will defend this.
>>338073051
>>338072951
you guys did not notice the wall ride as well
>>338059317
BRAVO BLIZZARD!!!!!
>>338073073
Spread this for the love of good.
It's way too good!
>>338062753
As much as I dislike modern Blizzard, noone in their right mind would defend BattleStillborn. Noone.
>>338072951
You can sign up here, it's free to play too
http://www.teamfortress.com/
>>338073582
please DON'T encourage the tripfaggotry
>>338059317
you're complaining about 20 tick servers when the entire game is so carefully engineered that nothing new or different could ever happen in the game. don't know why you're reacting when you could just run an algorithm to kill your enemies.
>>338073582
His trip is different but I think he changed it.
>>338073375
>aims directly at player
Nope.
>>338072842
How am I butt hurt. There is no Auto aim outside of ultimates and a specific character. It's like saying that the Medi gun of TF2 show that there is auto aim.
>>338074009
>2016
>expecting arrows to not ever curve
>>338073839
>when the entire game is so carefully engineered
>Potato Hit-boxes
Blizzardrones every one, point and laugh at him.
>>338073073
There is no auto aim.
>>338073582
Yes.
I was also reliable ecchi deliverer scout, and rebel <bunch of numbers that was my brawl friend code>.
The guy who avatarfagged as jamie from Megas XLR.
>>338073969
I've had 3 codes, don't know if this is the one in that image.
I've found that there isn't much difference overall. For example, in TF2 the high tickrate is negated by the shitty netcode, and the "I did this thing on my screen but it didn't register on your screen!" problem happens just as much. In Overwatch, the tickrate is shitty and often makes you die around corners etc, but the netcode is incredible. There is almost no lag whatsoever regardless of how third world your internet is.
tl;dr its the same, you're gonna occasionally get killed behind cover no matter what game you're playing
>>338068859
>you'll get shit on so hard they'll name a street after you in India
>>338074259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PF7UvC6rvw
>>338074272
how are those tears. There is no auto aim in Overwatch. You can keep dropping them memes on me, but that does not make it true.
>>338062348
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>>338074104
What's your excuse for this?
>had a blast playing it with friends
>none of them are buying it
>kinda wanna play again
>remember that feeling of the last day of the beta
i just dont see myself putting that many hours into it.
>>338074458
http://www.gamesradar.com/overwatch-controls-aim-assist-call-of-duty/
That's when you know Overwatch is good:^)
>>338066703
Well it is a lag. You can think of 20 tick as a MINIMUM 50 ms lag, disregarding the quality of your connection. Your "lag" will always be 50 ms or greaters
>>338074538
and this?
Specially this lol.
>>338074458
>what is soldier 76
>>338066649
because they are all pretentious elitist autistic neckbeards like you.
>battlebores and valve drones are this mad
I'm literally dancing on the shitter.
>>338068507
Might as well. Enemy targets are highlighted in red.
It's got great graphics, me matey
>>338074850
Using an ultimate as a normal feature is stupid.
There is health regen, but you have a medic!!!
Ultimates are special powers that do not count.
No character has auto aim except Soldier 76 ultimate, Mc Cree ultimate and Winston short range gun.
>>338074458
Dude, I love overwatch, but theres auto aim.
>>338074929
Not auto aim.
>>338068507
Anon it suffers from an autoaim effect, where the shitty hitboxes, shitty hitreg and shitty serverside algorithm combine to produce events like hanzo's arrows curving through space and roadhog hooking you around corners
>>338075139
No. Autoaim is like on consoles where you have your aim sticking on the head or going toward the characters. There is no auto aim on Overwatch on PC.
Why do we have the same thread every day? Why do people who jerk themselves off to (you)s exist?
We get it, you don't like the game because it's not exactly the same as the other 5 shooters you play.
I don't even like the fact that the servers are pretty much just taking really good guesses as to what is happening instead of actually seeing it.
But if you think it's a horrible game. don't fucking play it. We don't need a thread every fucking hour from these underage fags subscribed to TheWarOwl about how this isn't "a real game" while they go off and play RNG:GO.
More people need to realize how shitty you fucking make this board, and be more like >>338059408 this guy
>>338062753
I think an enormous part of this game's failure is how visually unremarkable it looks. "Dude who kind of looks like a mushroom" doesn't carry the same general aesthetic appeal as say, Tracer, Widowmaker or Winston
>/v/ pretends to understand networks
Nice a cringe thread.
>>338075874
It's funny right? I'd like to see someone show me what good netcoding for games is
>>338074009
Honestly with how fast some of the characters move around (specifically soldier with his sprint), it wouldn't be fun to have extremely accurate projectile collision and miss 90% of shots due to faulty leading or bad estimation of travel time, especially when you're competing with tons of hitscan weapons. Call me a casual, but we'd see very little use out of characters with projectile weapons if there wasn't some degree of leniency.
I play as Reinhardt, Winston, and Lucio so the tick rate doesn't matter to me.
>>338059919
>has the best lag compensation algorithm
Literal ping 0 won't mitigate low tickrate problems.
At best if you have high ping tickrate becomes less of a problem BY COMPARISON.
>>338065735
Good luck I play on PC as much as I do on console, Idort always wins
>be roadhog
>throw hook at reaper
>it clearly hits
>but game does not count it because 20 tick
thanks, game
>>338077189
tickrate helps roadhog more than harms
>>338062753
This game has more in common with HOTS than it does with Overwatch
>>338076736
reinhardt i can understand but having this shit with lucio and winston means you can heads hotted and killed even though you were out of the way of the projectile.
>>338076640
>Honestly with how fast some of the characters move around (specifically soldier with his sprint), it wouldn't be fun to have extremely accurate projectile collision and miss 90% of shots due to faulty leading or bad estimation of travel time
you literally just said this is better because instead of actually having to learn some skill someone can just lob arrows and get lucky.
>>338076979
>zenyatta not being one-shotted by widow
Must have been nice.
Also part of the reason why the game is so fun is because it's accessible and rewards the player constantly. People wanting to turn this into an uber-competitive, punishing game with a high demand for mechanical and technical skill don't understand the point of overwatch. It's a casual FPS.
>>338066228
>10 million people played the game during beta
>None of them would have wanted to come to the internets largest video game discussion board to discuss it, they are all paid
You are on the level of young Earth creationists in your nutjobbery
>>338077313
blizzard is literally pushing this game to become an e-sport
>>338075505
I honestly feel like /v/ is full of Blizzard marketers
>>338069969
But the effective tickrate is still 20. Right?
>>338069913
>being a wagecuck
No wonder you don't have a gaming PC. Hard to afford on a 7$ minimum wage salary when the cost of living is around 300k a year.
>>338077484
just like Evolve tried to be an esport?
>>338077313
>It's a casual FPS.
Yes it is. But you will still see how Blizzard forces this casual game to be on the pro-competitive events and blizzcucks with suck blizzard's dick for that.
>>338077484
Which I think is dumb. Evidently all the complaints about hitboxes haven't stopped competitive play from occurring, however.
>>338059787
At least Battleborn doesn't have a trap as its mascot.
>>338077294
>you literally just said this is better because instead of actually having to learn some skill someone can just lob arrows and get lucky.
I'm aware, and I stand by my opinion that this is meant to be a more casual game despite what blizzard's intentions with it are.
>>338075437
There is, stop trying.
>>338077921
Prove it
>>338077670
doesn't change the fact that bliizard wants this to be an e-sport and have put money behind it
>>338077724
they go where the money is but they probably will voice their complaints like they do in cs go
>>338077189
Roadhog has the easiest fucking hitbox in the game with that hook. It literally wraps around corners.
>>338078016
>being this Leddit
>>338077313
>people that want to be able to actually get invested in the game are missing the point
casual FPS doesn't need to mean babby-mode FPS
overwatch is plenty casual without shitty tickrate and hitboxes
>>338077630
I would like to know why, is it because the game is coming out soon so there's a lot of threads about it?
Because if that's the only reason you could argue there are FROM marketers here and basically any game that is close to release date.
I would agree with you on the fact that there's also a lot of threads about WoW when that game is literally nothing to most /v/ goers now
>>338078096
Ok? Still happened
>>338078049
>an activated counterable 6 second buff is a deep game system issue
ugh stupid dota magic is useless when everyone is spell immune always
>>338059317
Nobody is defending it, except Blizzard.
>>338075437
You're thinking of aim assist.
>>338077885
>I'm aware, and I stand by my opinion that this is meant to be a more casual game despite what blizzard's intentions with it are.
the problem i see with that is that the fact is blizzard wants this to be a competitive game, this is their game you can't say i think this game is meant to be this even though the creators of this game have said they want it to be this way and expect to be taken seriously.
>>338078183
What shocks me the most is the amount of posts that actually defend the price, the auto-aims and the shit tickrate Overwatch provides.
>>338078136
This
>>338059787
Battleborn is 20 tick too.
>>338078236
I'd be offended to play a game where my ultimate is an auto-aim.
But hey, I'm not a 12 year old faggot like you so..
So do we love Overwatch for the same reasons we hated Battlefront?
>>338062781
Which is 20 tickrate you dumb shit.
>>338078096
That's because it's hitscan. It doesn't actually have a hitbox.
>>338078683
Stop trying to convince these delusional faggots. They're either marketers or waifu posting cucks.
>>338078096
kinda like hanzos arrows. hit detection on his arrow projectiles are xbox huge
>>338078651
>we
Stop adhering to some circlejerk hivemind shit, retard
>>338077642
No, the effective tick rate is 60Hz. Hit detection is server-side, not client side.
Getting hit "through walls" is a result of Blizzard's focus on "favoring the shooter" despite not being client-side hit detection. It would take some testing to determine but it seems that not only do hitboxes extend a bit beyond the models, interpolation results in a stretching of the hitboxes as opposed to moving the hitboxes ahead of the model.
>>338078790
Why don't you leave 4chan if you think actual vidya players are incredibly rare and the board is 99% shills?
>>338077670
>Evolve
mandatory
>>338078651
The only thing they both share is the lack of single player. Even Battlefront has more modes and maps than overwatch.
>>338078819
Calm down there spergo, the hivemind exists. Simply addressing it doesn't mean you're following it.
>>338078136
I personally wouldn't mind seeing more accurate projectile hitboxes, though it might be frustrating with the lower tick rate. Doing so would also significantly increase the skill floor for those characters compared to others with hit scan, which leads me to think blizzard would never consider it as it would throw off the balance of all the heroes without additional reworks.
>>338079134
When you use "We", it implies you are following it. You would not say "We" when discussing how black people feel about an issue if you yourself were not black, for instance.
>>338073369
>maining a single character
If anything, you should have a couple of mains. Won't get far maining 1 herounless it's mercy
>>338079161
>would make the game more difficult for casual players
Don't fucking count on it ever happening.
>>338079134
>entire point of 4chan is it's anonymous so we can say what we want and not have to adhere to some circlejerk
>it's ten times worse here than reddit or tumblr and everyone is expected to follow some sort of pre-determined set of opinions
Anonymity does not work
>>338078418
I'm going to play devil's advocate and disagree and agree with you
>The Price
40 dollars is nothing, unless you live in another country then all games have fucking stupid prices, but that stems from retarded laws
>The Auto-Aims
I have tested and played the game quite a bit and agree the hitboxes are bullshit and need to be fixed, but I wouldn't call that AutoAim. If you are talking about the Ultimates being AutoAim then the argument is retarded because the whole point of the Ults in that game are to give you a large advantage
>The Tickrate
They made the servers and netcode completely around the Tickrate so it's not like it's a source engine game on 20 ticks, because any basic networking knowledge will tell you that ticks is not the only thing. That being said, the servers are designed fucking retarded because they literally just guess some shit and they admit it
>>338062348
Dont fall for the bait.
>>338079310
I post on this site, "we" applied to anyone on 4chan as a generalization. I haven't even played the game yet so I can't say I like it.
>>338079485
>>338077851
Faggot
>>338079458
>and they admit it
what? where'd they do that
>>338079763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ
Here they literally admit that the server guesses where some attacks (like Pharahs Rockets) are gonna go regardless of lag or interference
>>338079639
>being this sad
Did they add in dedicated servers with increased pop limits yet?
I want to have a 12v12
>>338080167
>12v12
Probably never gonna happen.
>>338080167
What do you thing this is? A Valve game?
>>338073638
Sleep tight, toblorone
>there are people so butthurt about hat simulator they shit talk every game
>>338073635
>>338070814
>Press E for speed
>jump
>it wallrides
>right mouse button
HOLY FUCK THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN THAT SKILL
When is the map editor coming out?
>>338080313
Why not? Should be pretty easy to change in server settings on your dedicated server
>>338078859
effectively (in perfect connection situation) your client gets update every 20th of a second, witch means game synchronizes every 20th of a second.
(Synchronization might be better than just straight 20 tick game.)
Holy shit, Blizzard apologists are out in full force again.
The tickrate IS an issue. Those that claim they never got shot behind a corner/wall are either fucking retarded or lying through their teeth. Knowing blizztards, it's probably the latter. "Brilliant netcode", were you fucking dropped on your head as an infant?
It's these same blizzard apologists that nearly killed Diablo 3 by deflecting ANY criticism about the RM auction house. People just responding to Overwatch criticism with "BUT MAH BATTLEBORN" demonstrates just how they got literally zero arguments to defend blizzard's decisions with.
Every blizzard thread I go in, it's got people talking about how much battleborn sucks. I wonder who is really insecure about "their" game.
>>338080873
Good luck managing to run a 24 player game on that net code.
>>338065075
You do realize that it's an online game, right? The challenge is fighting other players. Since there's rankings, you will be matched with players of equal skill.
>>338080905
>>338078859
so effectively everyone has a minimum 50 ms lag cool
>>338080772
>thinks the only skill in gaming is the combination in buttons you press and movement of the mouse.
>>338063927
TF2 became free after 6 years... And im still waiting for free WOW.
You are basically hoping everyone gonna leave a multiplayer game so you could buy it.
>>338081140
Why would I want to do that?
Why not just have a list of servers, I join a server with maps or changes I like.
When there's a server browser, I never automatch, I look through the servers and pick the one that looks the best.
I used to always play on Orange_x2 on TF2
>>338079989
so much assuming and predicting. what the hell blizzard
How do I turn up the aim assistance
>>338081587
Also, Balloon Race was a great map.
>>338081671
Yeah, if people want to complain about the netcode go ahead, but literally stop using the buzzword tickrate to cover your no knowledge of the inner workings of games
>>338081587
>complains about lack of challenge in a game
>is scared of the option that will give him a challenge
Aww anon, does the fear of having to have your skill assigned a number frighten you?
>>338067812
Wasn't this proven to be on a server with spawn protection?
>>338079989
Poor guys. They are probably really good engineers.
Activision is such a shit company for forcing these guys to "explain" the shit $ decisions they made.
>>338081480
TF2 also went on sale several times before making the jump to f2p, including one notable period where it was 2.50
>>338081919
Maybe I'm just tired of Blizzard treating me like a child in every single game they make.
You can't choose servers in this game, you literally can't talk with your opponents in Hearthstone, let alone trade with them.
I wonder if they'll let you trade in Overwatch?
>>338067812
>no dynamic crosshair
Into the trash it goes
>>338082150
Why would you need to trade? That just seems pointless
>>338081919
>LOL WHO CARES ABOUT COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND MORE OPTIONS FOR THE PLAYERS
I bet you defended fov lock too, you cocksucker. Just stick to your console, kid.
>>338082318
Why would you need to trade in TF2?
Because I have some legendary skin on Soldier 76 and I don't play him, and you have a legendary skin for Reinhardt and you don't play him?
>>338082150
You can talk with everyone in Overwatch. You can make custom games and invite people you know.
I've played many games with matchmaking and custom servers. You wanna know the truth? They feel exactly the same if you only care about pure servers.
>>338081671
I don't think you realize this, but 95% of game network programming is just complex guesswork.
>>338082471
There is an fov slider retard. Also, you can make custom games and have parties with friends that will matchmake continuously, and allow your party to have people come and go and keep the cohesion of the group together while constantly joining games.
Sorry that your very specific type of community that only a single percentage point of players actually care about is dying.
>>338082758
Those custom games are impossible to find though, and they are exactly the same as public matches.
They don't do shit.
>>338082687
This would imply that OW was the best and the other two are for kids who have parents that are easily confused and autists.
>>338083174
No they're not. Your friends can invite you or you invite your friends.
>mfw im better than all of /v/ at any video game imaginable
>>338083282
couldn't have said it better myself, thanks anon.
>>338082687
>tfw people might never stop comparing TF2 to this
TF2 is a class based shooter, Overatch and Battleborn are character based shooters
>>338083418
I'm pretty good at the guitar hero cellphone game that you got with some phones back in like 2007
>>338083287
I can't join your custom game though.
>>338067812
It's some shitty private server, probably lagged serverside. Hit reg is bad but not this bad.
>>338083597
Yes, if you're invited by a player in the game.
>>338083529
Overwatch classes function exactly the same as TF2 classes. You can switch classes and have multiple of the same class on a team at anytime.
>>338062753
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>>338083891
Class = Multiple playstyles and loudouts
Character = Set playstyle and loudout
Overwatch is a CHARACTER based shooter
Team Fortress 2 is a CLASS based shooter
GAME CONTROLS DO NOT DEFINE THE GAME GENRE
>>338059317
I don't think anyone defends the 20 tick.
Not even the paid shills defend the 20 tick.
My only happiness is that I can play ranked and get 60 tick (or whatever it's set to) and not give a fuck at all.
Which I'm sure a lot of people intend to do.
>>338063370
>>338063485
Very interesting.
>>338083824
>>338074272
>>338073073
>>338073165
>>338072509
>>338072137
>>338070306
>>338062348
>>338059408
STOP BASHING OVERWATCH
OVERWATCH IS THE OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR GAME
>>338084173
TF2 had set playstyles and loadouts when it released you turbonigger.
>>338084493
And now it doesn't you double turbonigger
If Overwatch starts allowing different weapon loadouts for characters then it'll be a class based shooter the same as TF2 is right now
>>338063680
Actually, the lag compensation for Overwatch is rather decent.
I play Siege every day and it still boggles my mind, how shitty their servers run.
During the Overwatch OPEN FUCKING BETA, I have ran into 2 issues where my hits registered after a couple of shots with Hanzo, but that was about it.
Don't even remind me about how bad Siege was during Open BETA haha!
>>338083529
Please do tell me the difference between class based and character based.
>>338084718
>the definition of a class in a video game changed because TF2 changed
TF2 is your first class-based shooter I get it, but you should know when to stop.
>>338083824
That fucking castle was the GOAT playset.
>>338084251
But the Fischer Price castle is superior to both Mega Bloks and LEGO.
Also it has a VIDEO GAME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwaW2iz4iA
Pretty good video on lag compensation and tick rates along with interpolation.
>>338062753
OH MY GOD.
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
>>338085453
>He STILL doesn't post the superior version, specifically regarding Overwatch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHO6Ky-w0UQ
>>338085183
>No! I refuse to be wrong!
Well you are
The human eye can't see past 33 tick, so why does it matter?
>>338080905
>effectively (in perfect connection situation) your client gets update every 20th of a second, witch means game synchronizes every 20th of a second.
That is incorrect on several levels.
Your game has a tick rate that matches your framerate or 60Hz, whichever is faster. You update the server with your state at a static 60Hz, which would be pointless if the server weren't also running at a 60Hz simulation rate.
>>338081276
No, not only is that wrong there is absolutely no way to translate the specifics of the code into an analogy involving ping
>>338059317
20 tick is so bad, that and the complete lack of actual dedicated servers ruins this game.
>blizzfags are going to buy this mediocre game and endlessly shitpost about every detail of it all summer long...
>>338086787
>this isn't a class because I said so
>never mind the fact that class-based games have always existed without loadouts, with TF2 actually being an exception to the rule
>never mind that classes only exist solely to remove the factor of interchangeable weapon loadouts to begin with
You're a fucking idiot.
>>338087850
>still lacking evidence
>>338083824
>That castle
Only real niggas know
>>338086885
So one you have a specific character have different primary/secondary weapons that you can only change on the respawn room and the other one a specific character only has 1 primary / "secondary" (abilities) to them, but they have more characters to compensate that and allows for multiple totally not loadouts that you also are only allowed to change on respawn room ?
The only way to change your loadout and your playstyle (that is related to equipment) in both is by dying or walking back to the respawn room.
Ok.
>>338062562
For me its even more than 60 $
>>338089793
For me it's even less than 60 $
Remember Op, 20 is a lot of ticks.For people who can't count to 3 without using their fingers.
>>338075289
>autoaim effect
What the fuck are you talking about?
Those things happen because of client side hit detection.
>>338075289
These problems exist even in 128 tick Counter Strike, and are better than the alternative of player lag producing invincibility rather than mechanic delay.
>>338072559
Is this a horseshit image? It would seem difficult to correctly represent ticks.
>>338059317
Mm I was pissed about this too, but from the beta it actually played alright for the most part....
Still though I'd prefer 45< b
>Blizzard does not region lock like steam does
>you can buy the game from Argentina or Russia or wherever you find it cheaper
>b-b-but muh I am a kangaroo
>>338059317
its perfect for console and controller :DDD
>>338068507
just admit it, you can't play without auto aim with a controller.
You can argue all day about which FPS is the most hardcore and Quake will always win, however this game focuses on teamwork. As it stands, in the realm of teamwork intensive FPS games this is a great addition and very fun to boot.
>>338075289
For the second fucking time, roadhog's hook is hitscan. That's why it goes through walls and around corners.
>>338093805
Sonic, I...
>>338073073
this made me really salty in the beta. random shitters are world class snipers in overwatch, it's retarded.
>>338073762
Make sure you keep an eye out for the epic MLP ERP servers you can end up on using matchmaking.
>>338062753
Is this the same company that made Wildstar?
Let's all talk about the far better Multi FPS.
2nd gen loadouts soon, fellow merc.
>>338093925
lol liderelley no kekboy
>>338095187
Have memes completely degenerated your mind
>>338095025
wher r de wifis dou
>>338095025
Dirty Bomb is way better than it has any right to be.
Is the ranked system still shit though?
Why is everyone avoiding mentioning that yes, 60+ tick rate would be better, but the server load would be extremely likely to cause other problems, such as completely disallowing Blizzard from providing servers to everyone, including private games, because of costs?
The 20 tick rate is a cost-saving measure, nothing more. The benefits of that, however, outweigh dying to occasional knife-edge bullshit.
>>338095714
All the girls are cute though. Even Aimee and the Kraut dyke.
>>338095791
Literally nobody plays ranked. But who gives a shit, not like you get more creds and competitive is all community-organized.
I knew they'd reveal sombra in S76's cinematic. every single one has been about two characters interacting and 76 has the most potential with other former overwatch members
>>338095910
Then they should allow players to own their own servers.
>>338095910
Nobody here has enough foresight to realize that
>>338070306
The server simulates the game most likely at 60 ticks but saves on the bandwidth by only sending 20 ticks.
>>338096512
thats a hitbox issue it has nothing to do with lag
>>338093545
>posting polygon footage
>>338097776
no. the bandwidth wouldn't ever be a concern, even if blizz had to serve a million players concurrently.
if tickrate is 20 does that mean i wont be missing anything if im playing with 20 fps?
>>338062753
Damn... It just looks so fucking bland.
>>338083824
Sauce on the play castle? That shit was my shit when I was young.
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