>summon a red phantom
>he bows or waves
>proceeds to put 5 buffs on himself and rub gold pine resin on his +10 dark sword
>bonus points if he takes a sippy when he gets low
>almost every match is like this
What's the point?
You do know that there is an item in the game that dispels all of your opponents buffs right?
>>338014995
Just throw a gold talisman or attack them fag
>>338014995
You the estoc is the best stoc
>>338015059
You can just roll around them for 30 seconds or so until they run out.
>5 buffs
Uhh, Sacred Oath, Deep Protection, what else?
>>338015174
I use lingering dragoncrest ring
Enjoy waiting 45 seconds instead, loser
>>338015197
>Enhance shield
>fire res buff
>phys res buff (+ weight)
What else ?
>>338016514
I have no problem with just 2 buff and a weapon buff. But with all that prebuffing I'll just dual talisman them for being a tryhard.
>>338014995
>not cheesing your opponent during bow/buffs like a faggot
It's like you never learned how to get gud.
>playing a STR build
>dueling/invading in anor londo
>idiots buff like maniacs, spend ashen estus flasks just to keep their FP charged
>I throw a duel charm at them
>most people either try to rush you and get parried or just jump off a cliff
>bonus points if they actually try fighting you without buffs
>if I see they want to estus I throw an undead hunter charm at them
>now the real panic begins
>>338014995
Just fuck 'em up anon who cares?
My connection must always be fucked up, but my pvp experiences go like:
>invader always runs to enemies
>host always falls for this trick
>invader can sprint/roll forever
>they just mash on R1 and even if you're nowhere near the attack you get hurt
It's fucking dumb and I've never killed anyone in the hours of multiplayer I've done. Well, I've gotten kills, but they're from running at the invader/host while they're fighting something else. Otherwise I just can't land an attack.
>>338016934
ive learned poisoning your enemy has a similar panic effect.
it doesn't even do that much damage and i'd be surprised if u got a kill from it, but damn it sure it fun watching people freak out once as the meter rises.
>>338014995
>What's the point?
so soultards can call themselves "hardcore" and spam "git gud" baby drool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG0ZMax75f8
>>338014995
Literally no reason to play PvP in Dark Souls 3 until they fix all the issues. Literally everyone uses Straight swords (Dark Sword mainly), Estoc. Even the famous Twitch souls-veterans are spamming straightswords in PvP right now. Magic builds are garbage.
>>338014995
As a red summon, I personally find myself fighting hosts who chug like a bitch but I'll either kill them without healing or eventually heal when I see they've taken 5+ swigs of golden rush
>>338017005
>DS2
get out
>>338014995
?
>>338017672
DS2 still has the best PVP in the entire souls series sadly.
>>338017918
in what aspect?
>>338014995
i went to fight club as 160% weight smough-havel, only got thrust sword faggotry, went out in the wild and was much more enjoyable
>>338017918
>>338017268
I tried using bleed-weapons against greatshields. Oh the joy. Either they keep their shield up just cause "why should I do something else" or they try to attack you and you just counterattack them, which results in a stagger and allows you to punish them more.
>>338018324
doing meme bleed build for my second character pretty fun so far
>Put red sign down
>Wait 20 minutes to be summoned
>Find that I'm dueling against another Dark Sword R1 spammer who gets parried to death
>Use Red Orb
>Invade Immediately
>Host of Embers has began critical battle
>>338014995
I've had to make it a habit of carrying around Battle Charms just because of the stupid instakill combos that are in the game currently, Bluemoon Sellsword does a TON less damage without the buff thankfully.
But needing to go and farm every now and then to restock is stupid.
>>338018950
>Use Red Orb
>Invade Immediately
>Summoning another Phantom
>>338018324
>bleed stacks up even if you hit people during rolls
I'm not imagining that, right? Because I get phantom-hit a lot and that keeps building up bleed on me.
>>338014995
>Always have a hornet ring on my person
>Enjoy shitting on R1 spammers, Estoc and everything else
>mfw it's another fucking "I'm not going to fight but wait around with my dinky shield to parry you and instantly kill you"
Hornet ring is fucking dumb but if it wasnt in the game i wouldnt have any other way to shit on R1ers besides perseverance buffs.
>>338019121
I've had my bleed trigger during their roll and they fucking avoid all damage, Pisses me off so god damn much.
>>338018954
Bluemoon Sellsword? What?
>>338019035
>Use Red Sign
>Host chugs when he's not hit you once
Can't stand it, I really can't
I'm just more enthralled with the idea of killing them
>>338019218
>bleed can be rolled out of
What the fuck. There goes one strat to punish summonturtling I guess
>>338019121
It's something that persisted through the Dark Souls series. During I-frames you still can recieve status changes, with the only exception being certain animations (riposte, special attacks (such as plunging attacks into bosses)). The only thing that may happen is this:
>>338019218
Bleed bar is filled up during an i-frame => damage recepient doesn't recieve damage, cause i-frame
>>338018091
Oh it's not that it's necessarily good, it's just the only one in the series where the PVP is functional. DS1 had things like instant backstabs, parrying not working as it should, broken covenants, twinking, etc. DS2 managed to tweak the combat to make it better overall. Things like giving startup frames to backstabs and parries, and giving iframes to backsteps went a long way toward making the game less frustrating. Not to mention the covenants actually worked and were all unique. Also the balance was good enough to where you would see a wide variety of viable builds instead of just a few.
DS3 could easily surpass SotFS with subsequent patches, but as it stands right now it's an absolute mess. I really hope From does something amazing with the forthcoming DLC.
>>338019372
The starting Sellsword Twinswords when +10 and Bluemoon buffed has a combo of R1+L2+R2 that easily amounts to over 1,2k damage every time, And once the initial R1 hits you it's impossible to get out of.
>Easier to use than poison mist
>Useful in PvE cheeseuse hidden body then poison stuff and walk away. Literal easy mode.
>Looks cool
>Doesn't take an attunment slot
>Significantly stronger than basic poisonup to 9 damage per tick is the best I've seen so far in pvp.
Don't tell too many people. I don't want people to know about the final point there.
>>338019391
It's been in Souls since Dark Souls
>>338019395
I know how it fucking works but it still pisses me of that it even builds during their i-frame.
>>338019465
Soul Memory completely ruins pvp
>>338019481
You mean Darkmoon Blade? Only Dark Souls related Bluemoon thing I can think of is the Bluemoon Greatsword from DS2
>>338019372
>host chugs
Which is why I always keep a stack of Undead Hunter Charms in my inventory, the panic they have is just ridiculously funny. But wow, during a red sign fight? That's just gay. There was some silly anon on /v/ who said that he always offers his invaders to chug so the fights last a bit longer.
>hosts have more estus than invaders
>hosts are embered and have more HP than invaders
>>338019391
Best summonturtling punish is for me WotG since dks2. Asshats try to gank on you and you just blast them into smithereens.
>>338019540
I feel you bro, I try in most cases to fill up their bleed bar as high as possible and then hit them when they aren't rolling so the bleed actually procs.
>>338019623
Yeah that one, Mixed the name up with way of the blue and whatevs, Havent ever used it myself
>>338019481
I think you mean Darkmoon
And yes, Darkmoon buff has always been the strongest
>SL58
>Invading in Aldrich covenant
>90% of encounters are R1 spamming solo hosts
>mfw I parry them every time either instakilling them or watching them shit themselves as they get undead hunter charmed and roll around like a lunatic
Seriously for everyone complaining about "muh gank squads", go Aldrich. Out of 30 invasions so far, only 2 have had phantoms. I think it's because they all come straight from being embered for Sulyvahn and don't bother summoning straight away for the new area.
>>338017453
I enjoy playing pvp against straightsword spammers. Just parry or dual wield heavy weapon with a fast weapon.
>>338019492
Dude. I've been abusing that shit too. It's amazing with Simple.
I plan on recording footage of using it onHigh Wall lowbiesand then posting the footage as soon as le epic DS3 content creators with 300k+ views every video find out.
>>338019676
>>338019623
>>338019372
i think he's talking about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWJtbd9XEg
It's another
>Red-Sign-Summon-into-host-sitting-with-his-back-to-you
Episode
What are the 2-3 best sorceries in ds3?
Made a sorcerer and so far heard that crystal soul spear and great heavy soul arrow should be the shit.
>>338019820
>Crystal soul spear in general for solid damage
>Soul Stream for long range if you stack max magic damage and instantly whipe the host
>>338019716
>Aldrich
Agreed, my best PvP experience was with Aldrich and Farron, territorial invasions are amazing fun.
>>338019820
CSS was always good. GHSA isbad. Hexes have been nerfed into the ground, cause casuals don't know how to dodge pursuers + dark bead. Buff your sword with Crystal Magic Weapon for some fun damage.
>shares identical move set with Claymore
>deals less damage than a fully reinforced Claymore with Sharp or Heavy
>can't be buffed, unlike the Claymore
Literally why does this weapon exist and why do I still see people using it?
>>338020848
one trick pony relying only on Leo Ring R2
>>338020848
One of the most stamina friendly greatswords in the game
Can be swung four times then rolled with base stamina.
>>338020848
to slay hollows :^)
>>338020918
>need to swing 4 times in a row
>when you can roll out guranteed after swing
why is that beneficial again?
>Be in Blood Covenant in DS2
>Fight in arena
>Doors open
>Run across the bridge
>Opponent is still applying buffs
>Kill him mid-buff
>Receive salty hatemail
People bitching about estus are fucking retarded. I'm not sitting through 3 fucking loading screens and matchmaking to have 30 fucking seconds of combat. If someone chugs against me, whatever.
>>338014995
>only ever die to heavy weapons like Smough's Great Hammer
>always rape people when using heavy weapons
>never die to strait swords of any variety
Honestly, do you guys just pick a random weapon to complain about? Sure, it may have more reach than it looks like it should, but what does that matter when you barely dish out any damage and receive a shit ton in return? Also, you aren't going to stagger a guy hitting you with a heavy weapon with your shitty toy sword.
I know people like to say faith is shitty, but what are the best faith weapons for PvP? I've already messed around with every other build type, so now its time for faith.
invade
>there is already a blue
why?
>>338019716
>go to aldritch alone
>kill them all
well that was easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrI1l-1ODY&feature=youtu.be
>>338023502
Asstora GS, lightning.
>>338017771
Does it remove buffs or just stop them from casting more?
>>338017453
>Literally everyone uses Straight swords (Dark Sword mainly), Estoc.
actually you'll see Gotthard Twinblades more often than anything, only complete noobs use dark sword and estoc, because everyone knows how to counter them.
You see a lot of different weapons when dueling and even more if invading/get invaded
>Even the famous Twitch souls-veterans are spamming straightswords in PvP right now.
they are retards and not worthy attention
>>338019748
What's even the fun in this.
If you're going to fuck up someone going through a level at least make it interesting.
>>338024124
Used that for my sorcery build. Felt a little bit meh to use. Any decent weapons with lightning already on it?
>>338018950
>>Host of Embers has began critical battle
Don't invade near a boss door
>>338014995
Why is the Dark Sword so fucking OP? We're in the 21 century + 1 and shit like this isn't patched on day one?
WHY
Last day I got rapped because my ASS (Anri's Straight Sword) simply cannot compete with this stupid OP sword.
>>338024361
It has S FAI scaling when infused with lightning.
There's this one FAI scaling spear but it's kind of shit last time I tried.
>>338024205
Dark Sword is bound to hit you after a roll sooner or later, that thing has ridiculous phantom range I swear. The only way I've found to counter a smart Dark Sword user are long spears.
Estoc I have no fucking clue, thank God I haven't fought anyone who shows restraint with it.
>>338023759
Rarely seen a blue on the Xbox for some reason. Can't even get summoned as blue at SL120 (used to be summoned on SL 80). lol
It's mostly purely and exclusively 1 or 1 or gank but no blues.
>>338024712
Disregard anyone who says 120 SL is the meta, stick to 60-80, it's where you'll have the most fun anyway.
>dork sword shitter invades
>slap his puny ass with my halberd
People using meme weapons always use them because they are complete shit, so they are easy wins
>>338023759
never ever post a webbum where you literally just parried the host because it's never impressive
>>338024752
Nope. If youre serious about fightclubs 120 IS the meta. SL 60-80 is if you want to invade shitters on their first playthrough.
>>338024963
>Fightclubs
lol. Dickass invader or bust.
Let's not even get into how boring and broken things get at those high levels.
Can anyone remind me what that word is for when an enemy does an animation that shows you what attack he will soon perform? It's been killing me for over 24 hours now.
>>338025067
Telegraph? Wind up?
>>338025067
start-up?
If I invade I never ever take a sippy, but always rush the player, unless I see he's right about to do something really frustrating and annoying like the twin giant dog fight in irithyll. Invaders who take sippies are usually such a bunch of shitters that they need two sippies for every one of my own.
>>338025105
>Telegraph
THANK YOU
I thought it started with a P but I know I always think that but it turns out the word just has a P in it.
can you pirate this game and still play online?
>>338024851
If there's one thing I love in this game, it's punishing straight sword shitters with my greataxe. It feels great too because the weapons range is so fucking dog shit that you KNOW that the person feels ashamed at the loss.
>>338025121
If I invade and my opponent is ALONE and he does not heal then I won't either. I try to do the same when I get invaded, but occasionally I just don't have the patience for invaders and I will heal regardless. It's pretty stupid of them to do the applause gesture as a response to this, like you invaded me and I have all rights to stay alive
>>338025024
All nice and dandy until you get tired of chasing shitters across the same fucking maps over and over and decide to level up.
>>338025306
I let the host heal it he's alone but if there's more than one person it's totally fair game and I will use every underhanded trick in the book to kill the host off
>>338024570
Saint's Bident is the longest spear in the game but the scaling is bad.
Dragonslayer axe is probably decent with lightning.
>>338025306
I'll heal no matter what. I'd prefer if they do as well. Longer fights are way better.
>>338025168
You were thinking of projecting
>>338026196
Not really, estus chugging makes fights last way longer than they should. The worst is when my opponent barely deals any damage to me and it's clear that he's not going to win the match, but he still chooses to roll away to chug just to delay the inevitable and waste both of our time.
Only good thing about chugging is if you got a weapon with a good art that can punish people rolling away to drink.
>>338014995
pvp is busted as fuck desu
its either what youve described there or you get popped by a fume UGS user who hyper armors through everything even with his 1 handed r1. that or exile GS parry fishers
>>338026759
>see someone wearing a giant sword in one hand and a tiny caestus on the other
>run up to them and start charging a R2
Parry fishers are hilarious
>>338019613
Only if you want to twink
>>338019748
Christ. This was shit I was doing week one. Now hordes of 13 year old faggots will attribute it this screaming twat.
Reminder that pyromancy is the most fun in pvp, and is the most skill-based.
>>338027360
>throwing out chaos orbs forever hoping one lands
>>338027493
>Spamming the chaos orbs
That's what pyro noobs do.
>>338027614
everything else is too slow and telegraphed to be good, unless your opponent is an idiot
>>338027614
exactly, real pros repeatedly cast the flamethrower for half a second
>>338019716
Yeah aldrich faithful is real fun. Probably easiest covenant to get all the rewards, I got all the dregs in a couple of hours. And even when host would start bringing in more people i could always count on another aldrich bro to come
>>338017453
i remember 3 weeks ago. good times. wish i was back there with ya
the current meta is spam parry vs r1 SS spammers. use UGS hyper armor attacks for everything else
>>338014995
>bonus points if he takes a sippy when he gets low
What's the shame in this, exactly?
>>338027846
Because he was summoned via red soapstone, which implies they were having le honorabaru duel where healing is tabu usually. Which is fair, do regular invasions if you want to chug and cheese.
>>338014995
GANK SQUAD
>>338019481
You are correct.
On damage, Sellswords are the best Twinswords.
Also DMB buff is just the same as LB or CMW buff. Only difference if the opponent has more absorption on a certain element or not.
>>338028042
>Lance/Shield
You deserved the squad.
What do you guys even do in this game now?
I've got a lvl 89 as my main on NG++, sometimes I'll invade after pontif or the dungeon, but usually just get ganked.
Got a lvl 60 and invade in irithyll with a +8, but potentially get into lvl 90s with +10, usually still get ganked.
Bow only run, gave up on deacons, only took two tries but it was just irritating.
What else is there? SL1? Twinkis there even any point?? More NG+'s?
I was thinking of doing a co-op build with miracles and sunlight blade to help the host as much as possible without running through and doing it for him, but there's really not many areas that I can think of that are fun enough to repeat over and over, due to SL and weapon memory.
I'll duel sometimes, but that gets old, fast.
>>338028042
>the gesture at the end
Every
Time
>>338028601
dark souls is not a pvp game.
it's not meant to be a pvp game.
if you're looking for something like that you should go someplace else.
>>338028601
First character, just standard knight build but I went for the maraccas since they're the best weapons
Second character, spellsword wizard char, pretty fun
Third character, boss cosplay, doing friendly coop who's also cosplaying as a boss
Planning my fourth character, trying to make a bloodborne-like character with manikin claws because they're cool and have quickstep. Mainly for PvE.
I also set up random fight clubs with a friend. We clear out an area, pop dried fingers and wait for invaders and go one on one.
>>338028764
Thanks for your input
>>338028764
this desu
go play chivalry or war of the roses or something if pvp is what you want
>>338028764
>>338028882
Why are you two even in a Dark Souls PvP thread?
>>338016664
>buffing makes you a tryhard
>disabling their buffs (which they needed to invest stats into being able to use them) isn't
Bloodborne pvp> gank squad souls 3 garbge
>>338028964
i'm here to complain. they got it right in das2 after ruining it in das1 after how great it was in des. and now its shit again. probably worse than ever
seriously go play chivalry. its great
>>338029137
blood vials and gun cheesing was even worse than anything Souls ever had. BB is the best PvE wise but not PvP.
>>338029143
You're here just to complain about the PvP when you're saying DaS isn't a PvP game? You stupid or something m8?
>>338029205
oh and also the fact that you had to farm blood gems in the terrible chalice dungeons for hours just to stay "viable" in PvP
>>338029137
If Bloodborne invasions/pvp had DS3s matchmaking it would have had the best online aspect of any Souls series.
>>338029205
>blood vials and gun cheesing
Then just lower the vials of everyone. Simple as that.
>>338029205
>the best PvE wise
No, just no
My total time played was around 60h(dlc included) and I couldn't even force myself to beat ng+ or start new character because it was just THAT boring
I miss twinking.
Call me a faggot all you want, but I found immense fun in it. Not even just to be a dick, usually I'd help players or just sit back and watch, I'd only kill them if they try to gank me or just wont stop bum rushing me.
I know it's technically possible to twink in DS3, but barely.
>>338029227
*das3 isnt a pvp game
because pvp is busted as all fuck in this game. both by design and the habits of the community
>>338029341
why do you need to twink to help players?
>>338029301
>Picture says Dark Souls
>Has Demon's Souls bosses in it too
>>338029405
Ok, so you're here to complain about the PvP in DaS3 when saying DaS3 isn't a PvP game? Do you know see a problem here?
>>338029410
I get greater satisfaction in being a friendly invader, they just assume they're going to die and then get a nice surprise instead.
>get summoned as a blue phantom
>90% of time I just can't do anything because host and his friends rekt reds faster than I find them
>>338029583
assuming they ever used that item that made you able to fight enemies
>>338029719
I'd drop them things, show them where to go etc.. Don't need to kill enemies to be a friendly invader.
>>338029714
Pretty much. What's the point of the game summoning a blue for the host if the host already has two phantoms?
I kinda wish there was a covenant like that for invaders where you get summoned to fight alongside the red if he's outnumbered.
>>338029714
>make character literally just to hide after pontifs with
>dried finger + WoB
>allow blues to get some invading done while I'm hiding>blues always fucking lose
>>338029714
If it makes you feel better I have tried to go solo and pop dried fingers while in way of the blue, but blues completely suck shit at pvp
>>338029957
I've only seen one blue actually win against an invader, it's not even funny at this point.
>>338029926
Sunbros?
More of a pve question, which class should I go with for focusing on dank miracles?
Cleric as intended or herald? Or pyromancer?
Just want free heals, lightning buff, homeward bone and such.
>>338029714
I don't believe that anyone gets summoned as a blue phantom and that it's just an elaborate ruse
>>338030140
>hiding in plain sight as silver knight with dragonslayer greatbow in attempt to be sneaky
>blue gets summoned
>walks right up to me and gestures
>>338030289
I just looked it up, that's pretty fucking cool.
>>338030346
>>338015061
This. Duel Charms. Fuck your buffs.
>>338030346
>Cleric as intended
One of the hardest classes to start with, go with herald
Miracles suck anyway
>>338030389
128sl, got summoned constantly in the lothric castle and woods(on the ng)
>>338028042
While not fun, what is the point in complaining? You're invading, you should never be expecting the host to play fair.
>>338030346
Deprived. Always deprived.
I really want this angry sun armor, hope from will add it in the dlc
>>338030660
>red kills them all and host rolls around for 20 minutes while trying to summon them all back again
>>338014995
>Using things that are part of your build are frown upon.
Why does this meme exist?
>>338019891
I don't get it.
My soul spear always does more damage than soul stream's total. If anything you should one-shot with CSS instead of SS.
>>338030797
Literally happened to me today. Host resummoned his phantom friend 3 times throughout a single invasion. His friend would just play suicidely just to land a hit or 2 on us, eventually killing the 2nd Invader (started as me vs 2, went into 2 invaders vs host and phantom and blue). By the 3rd resummon everyone was dead, except for me and the host, and I ran out of Estus. The host would literally do nothing but roll and run til he gets the summon, I just black crystaled out once I ran of estus. It's literally impossible to catch anyone remotely competent if they have no intention of fighting back and room to maneuver, especially if you're using a slower weapon.
>>338030797
>all of the host's phantoms die as I make my way to him
>finally see him
>connection error, returning to your world
Not even mad, just disappointed
>>338031150
Just be glad faggot. If the host had a phantom he knows, he could have infinitely resummoned it and played passive as fuck. This usually is accompanied by giants seed or clearing the level before hand to deprive you of any way of defending against gangbangs.
>>338031274
He was in the Catacombs room with the fire demon, I most likely would've had some time before his buddies' summon signs appeared there.
>>338030660
That female armor looks hot, what is it?
>>338028667
>tfw using that gesture dressed in full Undead Legion gear after smashing some invader shit
>>338024140
both
>>338019613
Not really
>>338019613
This is why das2 had best pvp? Because sl ruined it?
Are you retarded?
>>338014995
I'm running my NG+3 dried fingered
I thought I would join Way of the Blue because lol, give blues some invasions
They almost never win their fights, they usually summon in just after I've already killed my invader, and they ALWAYS cause a second invader to come in after they leave and fuck up my chances to get at any optional areas because fog gates.
There's one positive note I suppose, exactly once three blue phantoms summoned at the exact same time against a single invader. They chased him into ng+3 enemies and lost one, but eventually killed him. Immediately despawned and left me with a two invader gank.
I just want a weapon that inflicts toxic, poison is too weak to use seriously.
>>338033351
>once three blue phantoms summoned at the exact same time against a single invader.
kek, almost happened to me
>>338033597
Even toxic is weak though.
>>338033608
I've had two be summoned against me. A greatbow arrow to the host's face dealt with that situation.
>>338033647
It would be a bit better than poison and toxic curatives are a lot less used because it's rarer.
>>338029264
Chalice dungeons makes me want to kill myself on a regular basis. Shit's absolutely ass in level design and encounter design. The fucking witch that respawns red enemies makes me fucking slam my head into a wall.
>invade host and his two phantoms
>actually kill both of them because they played stupidly aggressive and ate the shit out of my yhorm machete
>start going at the host
>CONNECTION ERROR OCCURRED RETURNING TO YOUR WORLD
>>338033608
Irythyll is by far the worst area in the game to go through dry died fingered. I was killing upwards of three to five invaders while also fighting all those enemies at NG+3 strength. Sure sometimes the invaders were shit and a free 2 estus, but loads were either using twinswords meme builds or straightsswords with latency so bad they outraged the washing pole 1h poke.
>>338034527
It's no picnic for invaders either. The amount of ganksquads I run into in this place is ridiculous.
>>338014995
>>summon a red phantom
>>bonus points if he takes a sippy when he gets low
Ew. I feel like DaS2 was onto something with preventing estus use.
>>338034781
>ganksquads on the ng
Really?
Worst I saw past wall was the host with one phantom
None of the Ds2 haters spent time in pvp, I can't believe anyone prefers current Ds3 pvp to what we had in Ds2, even including unpatched, havellyns/dual sanitar spear was better than what we have right now.
Ds2, in terms of pvp had the most build variety, by FAR, like, there were multiple builds for every weapon class, whips, fist weapons, short swords, curved greatswords, lances you name it there was something viable for it, the magic had tons of variety, there were many different ways to incorporate any amount of magic you wanted into a build, from the sunlight blade greatsword paladins to the dark weapon mundane mace users, to the full sorcery uses, who also had multiple weapon options, from shields or swords that cast spells, to regular staves.
It also has the best ways to do pvp, multiple covenants all offering differing pvp experiences, functioning and well used arenas, and the pvp only got better with Sotfs by adding a ring that capped your soul memory, it solved the lagstab/backstab fishing issue in most cases, it has the best poise system, it has the best weight/roll system.
What a fucking let down Ds3 pvp has been.
>>338035297
I'm at lvl 60 with a +8, so I get NG as well as NG+
>>338035297
Ganksquads are worse on NG. New players get on their toes everytime they get invaded in a place they haven't explored full, therefore, they are more prone to summon buddies to help.
NG+ players have their builds finished and just want to PvP for the most part.
daily reminder that if you use a washing pole you are a tryhard faggot and should kill yourself :^)
Made my first pyro class, is it correct to put points enough to use the astora sword, put raw on it and then focus on int and faith?
should we give up the hopes of FROM turning on poise? I know it was broken but any heavy armor is just useless
>inb4 working as intended
>>338035707
I've given up on it.
>>338030346
Knight. It's more efficient to play as because you start with decent shit. You can then make a raw longsword or battleaxe and pump your points into faith for a while.
Lightning spear (the first one) isn't decent until 60 faith and at 60faith I killed a guy with one hit using sunlight spear. Neither of us saw that coming.
>Run into a 3 on 1 gank in Anor Londo (like every single invasion)
>they're all using Dank Swords
>book it to the rotating staircase
>pull the lever
>parry the idiot swinging at me in futility as I push the lever
>kill him in 1 shot
>host and phantom retreat to summon another player, as I take the staircase down to Irithyll.
>host pops a giant seed
>make it past the silver knights with ease, as the three start getting rekt when they finally come down
>as one phantom gets close, I turn around and annihilate him
>kill the 2nd (3rd) phantom
>host runs back up
>summoning another player
>followed him and manage to kill him before the summon can fully spawn (it was the same guy I killed earlier)
There's nothing more satisfying than spanking a gank squad. At this point I'm disappointed if it's 1 on 1. (since I'm not really that good, and if someone has the balls to fight one on one, they're probably better than me)
>>338035459
>not using one of the only weapons able to catch backwards panic roll spam
Yeah I love watching that invader I just made pop their tears of denial bloodstone away and get a free heal.
>>338035459
>not dual handing chaos blade and a symbol of averice with the master attire
HOW CAN YOU EVEN PVP
>>338036064
>tfw build yourself around being a gankspanker
>actually get someone alone
>lose because your build is awful at 1v1
>>338036292
What build is that?
>>338036292
>not having a mixed build
BKGA for the phantom annihilation and parry, Washing Pole to stop the host from running to summon more.
>>338036292
Reminds me of some retards I found on the dragons peak (the second bonfire) trapping me in the ledge and spamming Force and Pillars of Light to get me fall off the ledge.
>>338036435
Dragon torso so dragonroar can guardbreak blockers, gets me like 3 hit killed from almost any weapon since no armour.
Small shield/caestus in off hand and BKGA or Dragonslayer greataxe as primary for parries alone since whittling down many phantoms will get you nowhere.
Untrue dark ring for blending into surroundings, obscurring ring for much of the same.
I generally obliterate ganksquads since they're overconfident and spam or block while hoping others take my attention, but 1v1? It's pretty shitty.
I'm currently using Gotthard twin swords and Wolf Knight GS, with a healing caestus offhand.
I'm considering changing out the GS at a later time, but it's doing a pretty good amount of damage for me now, and I'm cosplaying Artorias. Not sure what else would be better as a heavy weapon to complement my fast twin swords. (quality build)
>>338029053
Glad you understand.
>>338020848
This sword has style. Also I believe the swings are faster, plus a Leo ring charged R2 can easily one shot people
>>338035487
Yeah that's a good start, you might want to consider investing enough STR and DEX for other weapons later (16 and 18 respectively give you enough to use the Astora Greatsword or Great Corvian Scythe, both of which have an A/A scaling in INT/FTH when infused with Chaos).
If you're going for a pure pyromancer build don't forget to raise your ATT to 18/24/30 for FP and spell slots, Followed by a VIT gouge. I've had success leaving END, VIT, and LCK at their base value, but you can adjust to fit what you're comfortable with.
>>338028601
I'm doing a SL1 right now but I'm stuck at Aldrich/Armour. I've been using a Raw Broadsword for the run (currently +9). The bosses that have me the most trouble were Pontiff (14 deaths) and Dancer (19 deaths). Pretty fun but the late game stuff is frustrating.
>>338038815
Dancer is the biggest bitch for SL1, took me like 28 tries, Ocieres also gave me trouble since his charge has no tell and instakills
Champ was literally a blast, funnest fight I've ever had in any game
>>338039167
I've only killed Oceiros on low levels by getting him stuck behind the tree and firing bolts at his face for over 10 minutes.
>>338014995
>SL25 invading forest
>Always spawn into a 3v1 gankfest with passworded phantoms that have endgame gear
>Host does literally nothing except taunt in the back with gestures
>Kill all the phantoms cause lol scaled HP
>Disconnected
The last 3 invasions have been this, literally why
>>338039396
It took me a good 3 hours of frustration and blindly rolling hoping not to get charged, fucking awful
>>338039167
>>338039396
The hardest part of Oceiros is his first form. Once he goes beast mode he's way easier to read.
>>338039434
Road of Sacrifices had been pretty crap for invading despite everyone saying its a great spot
>Invading normally nets you 3v1's
>Watchdogs still don't work for everyone
>>338039909
Never had too much trouble on his first form he usually just did the frost patch attack over and over and phased quickly, the only hard part about him for me was his charge
>>338039945
I got it to work with the new account trick, I still can't get shit for blue covenants though, I got summoned once and never again
>>338040282
Better than me
>Got inconsistently summoned for Watchdogs
>Probably 5-6 times
>At least 2 of those had 'connection errors-returning to your world'
>Still never got summoned as a blue even when doing the sl25/+2 meme
I gave up on Watchdogs after getting 6 grasses. I could be solo in my own world and get invaded by a red quicker than the system auto-summoning me
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET SUMMONED AS A BLUE SENTINEL ?? FUCK !!!!!!
Explain
>>338024361
Has lightning. Buffable regardless.
>>338041786
You have to be lucky enough to be in the exclusive blue club.
>>338014995
>summon a red phantom
You know you can see what they have equipped beforehand, right? A visible dark sword, estoc or caestus is a very efficient shitter filter. Simply don't summon them.
>>338017918
Its easily by far the most balanced and the best, these casual shitters just hate on it, cause more challenging = cheap, unfair, artificial difficulty.
>>338041786
By raiding From HQ and holding Miyazaki hostage until their servers put you into a world where its 4 invaders against a host
>>338027729
took me about 3 hours. as soon as i came back to my world the message popped up in max. 5 seconds. also not losing the souls makes it much more comfortable to play. i thought i'd have to farm the firefuckdeacons on the left highwall but nope, all done fair and square
>>338014995
stop trying to duel at sl80
people at 120 know the proper etiquette
Whenever I see someone chug in a duel, I usually just let them be and doesn't chug back.
I actually get more pumped to wreck them so hard. I chug all my estus when I do win to mock them.
I would love to see their face IRL when they lose after chugging.
>>338027729
>i could always count on another aldrich bro to come
Its so nice having a bro that you can rely on and not hurt with friendly fire.
Literally just recorded this, OC
Not really PvP but yesterday I was proceeding through Irithyll Dungeon with a friend when a mound maker invaded. After a while he found us, we wait a few seconds as usually to check if the guy wants 1v1 or if he will try to run into mobs on some other shit. But he just stood there. We waved at him, he waved back. Uncomfortable silence. I casted Chameleon for the lulz and became jailer's mask. Invader did the same and my friend too. We were fucking around for couple of minutes in the disguise. Eventually we proceeded into the dungeon, mad phantom with us. He just walked alongside with a torch, threw charms at the mimics and generally accompanied us untill we died from some stupid mistake. I don't know, maybe he would backstab us at the most unexpected moment but he got a lot of opportunities and haven't done it. If you're reading this man, I just want to thank you for the fun.
>Got all the way to untended graves
>Still don't know where the Rosaria covenant is in the cathedral
I regret making a glass cannon build at times, but persistent mercury and twisted wall of light are too muchfunto use when invading as a purple
>>338042967
top kek
>>338014995
From made rolling too fucking good. It's like BB all over again. By just spamming roll you will never be hit by anything. If the opponent wills it, they can make the fight drag on for years by just running away and summoning phantoms. And there's nothing you can do about it.
>hit enemy with a well-timed Lloyd's
>they just roll around waiting for it to wear off while I can't punish them at all
DaS2 PVP was better.
>>338024361
Get a dragonblood greatsword.
Comes with lightning and normal magic damage.
You have to farm the summoned phantom at the second bonfire for them at archdragon peak though.
>>338042967
I still get a laugh out of the video
https://youtu.be/Ka1ap_t_PZ8
>>338019465
What a fucking crybaby.
You're just terrible at the game.
>look at Steam stats
>7000 people playing DaS 1
>2000 people playing DaS 2
Oh neat, let's reinstall the first one, I loved it.
>never invaded
>never summoned
what is this bullshit, steamstats
>>338017292
Jesus holy fuck. Why are brits either top tier hilarious or fucking unfunny over explaining boring pieces of shit?
>>338043121
>If the opponent wills it, they can make the fight drag on for years by just running away and summoning phantoms. And there's nothing you can do about it.
This is true. I equipped a washing pole in my second slot just to try and combat people who permaroll around while trying to stall for time or bring in more phantoms.
It works okay.. sometimes.
Rolling is simply OP with its low ass stamina cost. If you are any good you can stall forever.
>>338043121
You act like you can't use weapon arts to stop this.
Charging at someone with a spear usually does the trick. Same with the greatsword of judgement or the moonlight sword. And if you have 12 faith you can always just use force.
I run a luck/magic build, so I use anri's sword.
if there was a luck mace or luck greatsword, id use that instead. please dont hate me.
hows luck/str? or luck/dex? or luck/faith? or
>>338043592
Wow sure is good everyone carries a spear or a greatsword of judgement/moonlight sword
>>338043367
>Wait for them to start rolling like a retard
>Equip the knight slayer ring
>Kick them
>They get insta-staggered and riposted
>>338043721
do you even play this game?
>kicking someone who is rolling away
yeah okay
>>338041786
Lothric castle, valley, catacombs
Best zones to afk as a blue on the ng+
>>338043638
>I don't know how to make my build varied enough to deal with shitters
Tough shit.
>>338043604
Luck builds can be broken at times.
30 luck with a hollow infused weapon can get you pretty far.
>>338043721
You can riposte people only in two instances
>successful parry
or
>they were blocking and ran out of stamina
Stop bullshitting.
>>338041786
You don't. From still hasn't fixed Blue Sentinels/Darkmoons after 3 entire fucking games.
Enjoy farming those silver knights like the rest of us.
>>338044113
You've never been kicked with your shield down, have you?
>>338043948
>varied enough
>using garbage weapons
simple fact is you won't be catching people who are set on running away
>>338043948
About luck build, how does Anri's sword compare to hollow infused weapons? Any particular is good? You cannot really see the luck scalling in stats and I'd like to run with something else than Anri's on my luck character.
>>338044113
>>338043850
He also said Tsorig's instead of Horsehoof.
>>338044334
You can get staggered but no riposte happens.
How does it feel being retarded?
>>338043339
Boy you sure showed him. Why don't you tell me how DaS3 PvP is better than DaS2 PvP? Because it isn't.
People can shit on DaS2 all they want, but they're idiots if they don't realize it had the best and most balanced pvp in the soulsborne series.
>>338044334
Being kicked with your shield down does not trigger a riposte opportunity. What the fuck are you smoking.
Why the fuck is there no shrug gesture? How the hell am I supposed to express confusion?
>Invading in Kiln of the First Flame
>Ran into a host and one phantom
>They both run from the top of the hill to look for me (using a cling ring)
>Killl the phantom by catching him offguard
>The host runs behind the fog wall enough to not start the fight but hide behind where I can reach him
>I wait outside it, swap the cling ring for a hornet ring
>I can hear him casting up at least a couple of buffs
>Chuck a dueling talisman when he walks out of the fog on very few occasions as this goes on for a very long while
>Since he's a fucking Way of Blue, every few minutes a Blue shows up and then he'll rear his stupid face out
>Only attempts to even attack me with Gothard Twinblades rolling attack, predictable as fuck, but runs away after 1 parry/riposte not being enough to kill him
>The fucking blues are annoying but mostly trash
>This goes on for easily over half hour
>Last thing I expected was him running out of the fog stunlocking me with a Black Knight Glaive
>He taunts repeatedly and sends me smug hatemail
I'm so fucking pissed that I'm speechless
>>338044214
Seriously, I don't get this. Does From really not realize that these covenants straight up don't work? Why the fuck wouldn't they fix this? It's fucking maddening.
Also fix poise or remove the stat from the game, jesus christ.
>>338044424
Hah, you're right. Jesus what a fuckup
>>338043592
I use the MGS in pvp and only retards ever get hit at range with the projectile. Speaking of which, if they're rolling/running away they'll be way out of your range by the time you finish charging.
>>338020848
stamina efficient and it has thrusts so it benefits from leo ring
i've managed to do a 1032 counter hit from a fully charged r2
>>338044714
What did the hatemail say?
>>338044971Deleted it out of angerbut something along the lines ofCome back in properly or I'll jump your ass again. Get a life nerd
Sure it's retarded but I'm still pissed
>>338045117
>properly
What a fucking idiot.
>>338045117
>entertaining their shit for half an hour
You were just asking for butthurt. You know damn well if he had lost after all that he would have just alt f4ed anyway and then sent smug hatemail again
pffft, yeah right. after the first buff i start charging them. i actually start charging mid buff so they have to roll out of the way by the time i reach them.
people need to be challenged, stop spoon feeding. that's the thing about Dark Souls. if the pvp is anything, it's mature pvp, no kid shit. anything goes.
>use fingers in the archives
>hide behind gate to the prince boss everytime phantom invades
>sometimes shot them with my bow, but mostly do nothing and just shitpost om my laptop
>sometimes got a fun hatemail after they blackcrystals out
Red tears are precious
Name the best weapon for gankspanking
>>338045448
dark sword
>>338045117
How the hell could he bring himself to even write that after being that much of a bitch?
>>338045448
Butcher knife. Hits like a truck, swings fast, and has bullshit phantom range for days
>mfw some fucking retard ganker walks right into a fully charged 2HR2 overhead slam
>>338023040
People bitch because its cheap. It shows that you're a noob and gotta git gud.
