>The best Doom game was a modern FPS everybody said would fail.
Where were you when autistic Doom purists were this btfo?
>>337991786
Playing NuDOOM
>>337992112
>not using siege-mode
>>337992738
>being stationary
>>337993724
upgrade it bitch.
>>337993724
>played so much cod he cant pull his finger up from rmb
i know sp is great
can the multiplayer be fixed?
is snapmap fun enough to warrant the purchase?
when did chinkshit come into doom?
>>337991786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYp8ZeQ-I8
>>337992738
>been using precision bolt for the main game
>decide to use siege mode for shits and giggles
>mfw it is maxed out
>mix it with Rich Get Richer, and a couple other runes to compliment that
No weapon should be this OP
I thought Ultra Violence was too easy
How does Nightmare or whatever the hardest difficulty that unlocks after beating stack up? More demons? I want more demons so i can run and gun during the arena sections for longer.
I also thought the Cyberdemon and Mastermind boss fights were some of the best FPS boss fights I've ever played. Nice to be kept on my toes with the fights changing as they go.
>>337991786
It's not the best
>>337994335
nightmare make demons more agressive and hit harder, not spawn more. ultra nightmare has no checkpoint on death.
>>337994335
Nightmare is basically set up so you almost go down in two hits. Imps can drain about 45 armor per shot, health they do more. Health and armor drops on the field give you less (basic health and armor shards only give +1 per each)
Otherwise, so far seems that demon count and weapon damage is the same.
Ultra-Nightmare is basically Nightmare, just you only have one life.
>>337991786
I honestly can't tell if you guys are pretending to shillbit just so that more people hate it or if it's actually a good game.
Going to wait for a sale just incase.
>>337994585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1QtWCTDk8Q
High level Quake and Devil's Dagger player playing the hardest difficulty setting. First person to beat this mode.
You can decide from here. If you aren't sold by the end of "Foundry" then the game isn't for you.
>>337994551
>>337994554
Damn
They went that route, eh. They didn't give them more health tho? That would make it extra tedious.
I might as well give it a go, I only really died to environments on Ultra Violence or from blowing myself up so the challenge sounds more welcome.
>>337994661
Oh he managed to play it through. I was watching his stream the other day when he was attempting Ultra Nightmare and ended up dying to some really dumb shit. He just yelled out no all dramatically
It does fail. It's just yet another example of modern gamers being brainwashed by the excessive hype, buying the damn thing anyway, and trying to justify what is essentially the Haloification of Doom as a good game.
Should I bother trying to get everything in Ultra-Nightmare or is there some bare essentials I should get?
I was thinking about the armored offensive, savagery, and saving throw as far as runes go, maybe switch out savagery for ammo boost.
Obviously argent cells are a must
>>337991786
I want to play it but will wait until I can get it for $15 to $25 on sale. Paying 60 bucks for any game is too much imo unless it has thousands of hours of replay.
>>337994951
Yep, he can speedrun the game on the lowest difficulty in about an hour or so.
Ultra-Nightmare, a full complete runthrough, took about 5:15. Shit was interesting. Learn a lot about the game's design on Nightmare.
Like I kind of wish every level was designed like Foundry, but I do love how vertical and set up the combat arenas are for keeping your momentum up.
Plus, while yes the demons in this do not fill their classic roles (ie mancubus being big fucking deniers), they all do fill roles in some way, shape, or form (ie Hell Razers being the new deniers, Cyber-Mancubus being the new zone deniers, Hell Knights being the new pinkies/rushers, etc)
>>337991786
>calling new-doom the best doom while in the same sentence calling others autistic
you really have no self awareness do you
>>337991786
nice false flag
i bet you were one of the shill witch hunters just a few days ago too
literally a fucking tumor on this site
>>337991786
>tfw you're an autistic Doom purists who genuinely loves the new Doom game
Is this that whole cognitive dissonance thing I've heard about before?
am i gargabe if i'm playing on Hurt me plenty?
i keep dying too much on ultra violence, but hurt me plenty is too easy.
>>337995738
just keep going on Ultra Violence. Once you start getting Health and Armor Upgrades Ultra Violence gets easier.
>>337995584
Nah, I'm a purist too. Only mod I've ever tried was Demonsteele, but even then that was for the different gameplay style. I wasn't a fan of Brutal Doom.
I take this new Doom as an attempt to retain the classic style of momentum, but some modern concessions in terms of upgrade systems, some basic narrative drive, and the level design except for two or three levels basically being hallways to combat arenas (ie the Serious Sam and Shadow Warrior 2013 school of level design).
Basically, we aren't gonna get a Doom completely in the style of the classics considering that they wouldn't jive with modern audiences, and even Rise of the Triad 2013 showed the flaws in a 1:1 remake of an old school FPS (as fun as it was). Doom 2016 has its flaws, but it is a decent and competent shooter.
>>337995738
Sounds like you need to getbetter
Just keep playing on UV, you'll improve at the game
>>337992738
>that pic
kek'd
>Hell isn't the Hell from the Bible anymore
>It's just another dimension
>they are not "demons", just aliens from another dimension
>they're not even satanic anymore
Besides this, I liked the game.
I really, really like this new DOOM, it far exceeded my admittedly low expectations but if you are trying to say it's better than DOOM 1 or 2 you are fucking retarted
>>337996252
when was any of that said? the demonic audio logs about Doomguy go on about how they are in Hell, with Demons and shit and Doomguy was blessed by the Seraphim.
that all sounds pretty much exactly like the Biblical Hell to me.
I just wish it was longer and had more demons to fight
>>337991786
Any canon explanation for his strength? Doom guy cant be human.
>>337996945
some shit about seraphim
>>337996883
Isn't that a good thing to complain about. I'd rather that than "this game dragged on for too long".
I'd rather a game end leaving me wanting more than pull an Alien: Isolation and give us 8 more hours of unnecessary bullshit instead of ending at the 12 hour mark on a high note.
>>337994078
Almost any dev these days that isn't an SJW is a weeaboo. Take your pick.
>>337996945
he was just a badass murdering demons by the thousands in Hell for eons and at one point was "Blessed with speed and strength by the Seraphim" when fighting some top dog demon lord.
>Doom ends up being the opposite of what everyone thought
>poorfags still use complaints that are proven false
Ayy
It's never been so easy to pick out people who never played the game
>>337994661
This really is a good game. And fun to watch someone with skill play the game. I had doubts after they released those muddy screenshots. So glad they added back the color.
Hell looks fucking incredible. Great artstyle, its so good it makes the levels on Mars feel boring as fuck.
>>337994176
>Polygon
>Reliable coverage
Pick one.
Sadly I'm a poorfag and can't afford a good PC, but even on PS4, it plays really well. Controller isn't total hell to use somehow, especially since they added a configuration that makes L1 jump so you can look while moving through the air
Shit's perfect.
Doom purists are actually OK with this game.
It's QUAKE purists who are doing most of the bitching.
>>337994078
Every piece of fiction has gookrunes in space stations. Makes sense when you think about it.
The game looks kind of fun but the design, music, upgrade system, glory kills in general, and lack of mod support are pretty big turn offs.
>>338000341
Funny since it plays a lot more like Quake
>>338000341
im pretty chaffed about glory kills and chainsaw but overall experience is salvageable yeah
>>338000486
But it lacks STREFEJUMPS! Rocketjumps so it must be shit.
>>338000609
Same, glorykills will be always dumb shit. thats why i said just "OK"
>>338000341
The so-called Doom purists must not have placed a lot of value in the original games' level designs if they think highly of this game
I'm mad as fuck at the wasted potential that was multiplayer and mods for this thing.
This game could've had some serious staying power.
>>337994078
Left over of the post World War 2 economic miracle inspiring sci fi writers for half a century. The late 70s and 80s got it all up on the silver screen with classics like Blade Runner and Alien. It's ingrained in the collective psyche now.
>>338000812
Average Doom purist cares more about the theme of the game and gore than on the primitive mechanics.
Unless we are talking about speedrunners and that kind of shit.
>>338000926
>Average Doom purist cares more about the theme of the game and gore
No you fuckface level design is literally the single most important aspect of singleplayer fps
That's why every so-called "old school fps" continues to fail because they don't fucking get it
D44m was alright tho maybe in the next game they wont use fucking arenas for the enemy encounters
>Another Doom-shill thread
They will continue to be shill threads until every OP includes a link to a megaupload with a Denovo-cracked download.
So I want to play the original Doom, guys. Where do I go? What do I do? Is Brutal Doom a good start? I'm kind of turned off by the iron sights and superfluous animations and shit. Is there just a touched up version of the original two to grab somewhere?
What about Doom 64 and PSX Doom? I feel like I've read here and there that they have PC versions? How does that all work? Are they worth?
What are WADS?
>>338002405
No Brutal Doom.
>>338002405
Get zDoom and the WADs for the 1st and second
That's it
Brutal Doom is a mod, not a good start
Why can't Steam take screenshots worth a shit.
>>338002405
Doom1.wad
Doom2.wad
zDoom as the launcher, or Chocolate Doom if you want to keep it as vanilla as possible
>>338002378
Bethesda shilling is so bad that it became a meme with Fallout 4. It'll keep happening.
>>338002502
I followed this but I have two problems.
I can't get the actual controls to change outside of the game's menu, there's some sort of start up pastebin cfg file that the Doom general provides, but I couldn't get it to work or get anyone on there to talk to me about it.
Second, is there anyway to enable being up to look in all directions with a mouse, instead of just left and right?
>>337996252
Well A: They don't wanna get law-suited a quintillion times.
And B: There are stars of satan and shit everywhere, but im not sure I understand the whole "argent energy" thing.
>>338002794
You should be able to remap them to your liking in zDoom. You don't really need vertical look. Or well, I guess it wouldn't hurt but I'd recommend playing it with just horizontal at first
>>338003223
I've played and beaten Doom2 with keyboard only, do you know of a port or option for free-look, that enables modern wasd controls and removes the verticle autotargeting?
>>338002703
Doom1.wad is the shareware version. Doom.wad is the full game.
>>338002794
Enable mouse look in options.
so what the fuck is the lore to this game? It's canon to doom 1 2 and 64 right?
>>338003667
Pretty much any modern port can do this, like GZdoom
>>338003983
>lore
>canon
Anyways, Doomguy has been fighting demons for eons. I think its implied that Doom is a multiverse.
>>338002794
In the mouse settings there should be an option for "Always Freelook", turn down the mouse "movement" speed so you don't run forwards and backwards when you move the mouse up and down
>>338003820
>Doom1.wad is the shareware version. Doom.wad is the full game.
Oh yeah, my bad
>>337991786
It's not the best Doom of all, it's just a good game.
>>338004189
Do you know how? I have GZDoom and I'm at a loss.
>>337994426
Get to my level
>>338003983
John Romero never cared much about lore
>>338003983
No, it's just another take on Doom concept: Mars, UAC, Hell, Doom Guy. Only 1 and 2 are connected.
>>338002405
Go here:
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR
download the "starter pack".
drag and drop "doom.wad" or "doom2.wad" over gzdoom's .exe file (gzdoom is in the "source port" folder.
Hook up a controller and play :)
Doom 1, 2, 64, Final Doom and PSX Doom are all fucking badass. I suggest starting with doom 1 then go onto 64 or 2. 64 is more atmospheric and has a different yet also good feel to it. All doom games that aren't doom 3, doom 2016 and doom RPG have the same gameplay mechanics, only weapons and enemies and level design changes.
Let's face it
This game has no replay value
>>338005045
Sorry, that's an old version of the pastebin. Go here and get the starter pack.
http://pastebin.com/GnWMDhg0
I'm the dude that uploaded the starter pack, there is helpful text files explaining how to play. I made a newer version of the starter pack with some typos gone, and I also added the rare fixed versions of Final DOOM (TNT.wad and plutonia.WAD)...even steam sells old outdated versions of Final Doom, only GOG sold the most recent version. I fucking bought final doom on gog (my third time buying final doom) just so the interbutts could have the newest version for free.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a7i48xk8bdbfqqk/Doom_Starter_Pack_v2_041716.zip
I also have just the WADs (no sourceports) in this file:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5daxmd5azqmrvvz/WADS.zip
If you don't know which one to get, get the starter pack, drag and drop DOOM.wad over the gzdoom .exe file, and enjoy.
>>338004436
Anyone have the cleanest version of this (no text)? Thanks.
>>338005401
The same could be said about D3, and I replayed it 4 time I think. Planning on doing more. I think I will replay D4 in half a year on Nightmare. I really enjoyed the core gameplay.
>>338005045
>Controller
>Doom 4 make ever single .wad in existence canon
>Even Hdoom
>>338002573
You have to save an uncompressed copy.
>>338005703
>pol.wad is canonOGRES ARE LIKE ONIONS
>>338005401
I'll probably go through to grab all the secrets.
>>338005917
>Demonsteele is now canon
>Doomguy became a little japanese girl for some time
>>338005660
I started playing doom on my psp back in 2006, that's how I fell in love with doom. I think Doom is pretty much the only FPS where a controller is equal to keyboard and mouse - because you don't have to aim vertically in old school doom.
Any other FPS where you aim vertically (ALL OF THEM) I use keyboard and mouse.
>>338005703
I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere that it's a multiverse.
>>338005703
>>338005917
>>338006039
Can someone explain to me how Doom 4 makes all wads canon?
>>337994078
Started in the 80s during Japanese economic boom and we all thought Japan was going to become a superpower and Japanese was going to be a lingua franca
It was china, too, until a few years back when their economy started plateauing.
>>338006130
because id said "fuck it all" when it came to the franchises continuity.
>>337995197
>Mommy I read /v/ opinion and I liked it, I can't form a thought for myself
Tell me when you actually leave /v/'s shitty opinion bandwagon and actually try the game
>>338006075
I miss Doomguy's sleeveless armor, that's when he was truly a badass. Knocking demons the fuck out with brass knuckles instead of crushing them with big dumb metal gloves.
>>337991786
Doom1/2 are still better games. Doom 4 isn't a bad game though and its single player is still pretty wonderful in the grand scheme. Definitely better then SS3 was overall. Although SS3 second half was about equal.
>>338006130
Because after Doom 2 (or64) Doomguy cleared hell, he traveled through other dimensions to kill demons, Each dimensions are a .wad. Then demons lured him somewhere and captured him and put him into a sarcophagus.
>>338006104
>>338006130
Not sure how Doomguy can be fighting demons in hell for eons and then wake up in the 22nd century again.
>>337991786
this game pulled a Wolfenstein and btfo nostalgia babies.
unfortunately normies hate it because the levels aren't linear and there aren't many cutscenes
>>338006494
Blame shady writing. How on Earth would he understand English too? Same answer.
>>338004436
>5060x2752
What in the fuck kind of display is that for?
>>338006526
>The levels aren't linear
Just because it has two paths and one is a dead end with a "secret" doesn't make it not linear. The last 3 levels are literally straight lines.
I liked the game alot but the game was pretty god damn linear if you aren't looking for secrets. Only a few areas have multiple paths and really only Argent base/Argent base destroyed were open maps.
The one thing its lacking that Doom1/2 have over it massive are level pathings. There are so many different ways you can play the original/community wad levels that have different timings/personality to them. But in D44M its basically just a straight line with side secrets. No way to do something later in the level first etc etc.
>>338003983
Lore?
You wake up, kill some faggot ass demons, go to hell, then precede to kill more faggot demons.
>>337994661
The first person to beat that mode was zeromaster who did his run 6 hours earlier.You can also hear draqu commenting on that at the end of his run on his twitch stream past broadcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6J352J_RG8
>>338008113
>Kill Ass Fuck
?
>>338009458
I replied to the wrong thread and I had to wait a gorillian years to delete it.
>>337995225
It does though. Unless you get owned a few times on the MP and start spouting the memes that the MP's bad. Plus, don't forget SnapMap.
>>338009653
Could you at least tell me what game you were talking about?
>>337991786
LONDON
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>>338009987
Kill Ass Fuck, a mediocre game from the hacks over at Paul Beenis games
>>337991786
I thought this game was good, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
#skyrimthrowback
>>338006494
Better yet, how the hell does he have his Praetor suit in ancient times
>>338010191
I honestly don't know why I was expecting a real game.
>>338010049
Now I don't feel so bad for eyeing it in the manner that I have when I first encountered one.
>>338010360
It's ok buddy, Doom Guy won't judge you for wanting to get all up in some archviles.
>>337994078
WHAT DOES IT SAY?
danger or HAHAHA FUCK YOU MERICAN PIGGU YOU GET BOMB
>>337991786
>Neo Doom
>The best Doom game
>Best Doom game
>Best Doom
aha...hahahah...heheh...he..
So this is bound to become a meme yeah?
>>337996945
Doomguy trained for million of years to get swole and bathed in argent and sweat in sauna after a workout.
Over time be came stronk to fuck demon holes up
>>338010530
Apparently it says, "The pleasure of being cummed inside"
Did anyone try the alternative rendering styles? Do cinematic and gritty look better than the default?
>>338010049
Take crotch of imps and Hell knight please?
>>337991786
>Series of games based on killing hellspawn/traversing hell etc.
>Never come across or fight Satan himself.
Fucking WHY!?
>>337991786
Also I'm a relatively autistic Doom purist andI'm loving the shit out of Doom 4.
It's not completely perfect, even on nightmare you reach a point where the ripping and tearing comes too easily, while the levels are good they aren't spot on (Arenas are fine but they use them too heavily, very few traps and monster closest which are a Doom staple), probably never going to have real modding, but it's one of the best shooters I've played in years.
>>338010440
SUMMONERSE
I dont think no mortal can withstand doomguy's girth.
Snu-snu is amazon rough fug right?
What is the male equivalent to snu-snu?
>>338010784
Sure, I'll have 'em in a minute. I think someone else already did hell knight crotch though, and I know there's an imp-ass floating around but I don't believe there's crotch. IIRC the imp model kinda leans forward so you might not get a good picture.
>>338010932
I never saw the hell knight crotch, do it again anyways.
Your screenshot was sexy as fuck.
>>338010928
Well, the male equivalent of an amazon is a barbarian so...rum-rum?
Only underageb& and leddit like this shit
>>338005135
Ahahah... good one.
>>338010784
>>338010049
Zoom in on dat Knights as. Summoner has a nice ass too?
..is it heretic to have such impure thoughts?
>>338010784
anatomacally correct mod when
>>338011149
Of course not anon.
I rented it this morning and already returned it. It's a pretty good game but it's way too repetitive. I suppose the original was repetitive too but I just couldn't get into it. It isn't bad though.
>>338010928
YEAH YEAH I know they're technically called archviles, but they're BASICALLY archviles. It's like giving someone a ration of shit for calling a specter a pinkie.
>>338011041
Imp crotch
>>337994661
I haven't seen much of DOOM, and I had originally dismissed it but this video was really good at changing my mind. It looks FAST, even with all the beatdown animations that the runner uses. I do have to say that the game look very platformer-y, especially when it came to finding secrets. It also wasn't as rip-and-tear as I was hoping, it's more like punch-and-punch-again. Guns looked nice, but I'm not too big on the weapon upgrades. It was nice in the original Doom to find a weapon and see how different and unique it was from other weapons, in this it's more like "Here's the base, and now make it shoot rockets or something." It's neat, but feels weird I think. I was also getting some major RAGE vibes. Enemy count could be higher, and I wish they shot more.
Think I'll pick this up on sale or something. Thanks for posting anon.
>>338003983
It doesn't matter but yes anon..
old school 2.5 doom is all canon
Doom 4 ass rating: 6/10
>>338011149
I'll get you a closeup in a sec here.
>>338011262
Hell knight crotch
>>338011262
IMPSE
M
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S
E
I'm going to hell for this
>>338011342
IMP Cyber Baron and pinkie
>>338011376
Oh cut it out, edgelord. There is nothing sexually appealing about that and you know it. You're just trying to be "le 4chan creepy".
Stop it.
>>338011362
Hell knight ass
>>338011251
The original Doom wasn't as repetitive. It had much more variety in enemy encounter design than simply locked arenas.
>>338011592
Is that plating or he just flexing
>>338011592
Olivia crotch
>>337994335
Doom on nightmare is the dark souls of fps
Every time you die, it's a result of you making an actual mistake that could have been easily avoided by thinking faster and planning better, dying because you didn't pull out the right weapon at the right time to deal with the right enemies in the right order while maintaining spacial awareness so you can keep up your momentum avoiding damage. If you died because a hell knight kicked an explosive barrel into your face, you should have shot the barrel a second earlier to damage the hell knight. If you were standing next to the barrel, you should have moved elsewhere earlier. 100% planning and skill and reactions and decision making, no bullshit.
Also nightmare wasn't locked at the start, it was just in red text. Ultranightmare has the lock icon next to it, nightmare does not.
>>338011525
>There is nothing sexually appealing
Get on my level.
I enjoy it, its like that artist drawing sexy xenomorph bugs things. Hot shit.
>>338011640
The world may never know.
>>338011664
Summoner ass, which it doesn't really have and the wings kinda cover it up but what the hell.
>>338011664
PUFFY VAGINA
>>338011736
Baron crotch
>>338011798
Baron ass
>>338011736
Modest bitch
>>338011884
Cyberdemon crotch
>>337994326
>Rich Get Richer
That shit plus a fully upgraded Sentry Chaingun basically wins the game for you. It helps that the Sentry mastery is a really easy one to get, unlike the pain in the fucking ass that was getting the Siege Gun mastery.
>>338011954
Cyberdemon ass
>>338011964
What's the tier 2 version of rich get richer, anyway? It sounded really powerful but since I'm playing on nightmare my armor tends not to last very well, especially over 100.
>>338012039
It activates at 75 armor instead of 100.
>>337991786
Just going back through the campaign again to get all the Doomguy dolls, Field Drones etc.
Beyond that, there is little to no replay value here.
>>338012039
Olivia ass. Out-assed almost across the board by the demons, this is probably why she started working for them. DEEPEST LORE
>>338012134
front crotch view any good? She has dat gap?
Did the original wolfenstein and doom games look similar?
Only played wolfenstein new order and now when I see gameplay from the new doom you can really tell how they're from the same developers.
>>338012039
>>338011964
Activates at 75 armor
Once you get a checkpoint with over 75 armor, rich get richer + upgraded gauss siege mode makes nightmare easy, just oneshot the heavy demons as they spawn in, and then keep doing it.
>>338012123
Sounds to me like you haven't beaten ultra nightmare yet.
>>338012105
Ah, doesn't make that big of a difference then. Which makes sense given how powerful that rune could be anyway.
>>338012134
Mancubus crotch (Note, didn't take any pictures of cyber-mancubus bits since it's basically the same only with UAC armor on him)
>>337996252
I feel like the UAC messing with Hell and using it for their own ends sort of ruined it a bit. There's no way humans should have that sort of power, we just shouldn't. It sort of makes the way Hell is depicted in DOOM sort of stumble a little, I think. Then again, I suppose its one of those instances where I could just say, "I would have done it differently" and move on.
I do love the design of Hell though. I've always loved how they always include things like alters, candles, things like that. The idea of demonic servants or even the demons themselves setting those things up, lighting candles, painting symbols on walls with blood; I absolutely love that imagery. The idea that Hell is its own society is neat, to me.
>>338012213
How about you fucking play them you 10 year old faggot.
Also make sure to check out Return To Castle Wolfenstein, that shit plays so good.
Crack when? Shit happened, so I'll have to wait a bit to buy it.
>>338012246
UGH....I Cant fap to that
>>338012201
I guess I can snap a head on view for you. I figured mons would be better but I'm also not really in to demon crotches so WHILE I'M AT IT.
>>338012246
Manc ass
>>338012351
Front-on Olivia crotch
>>338012351
That mon pic was very classy though. good job
>>338012479
Hellguard crotch
>>338010584
>feel like replaying Doom II
>remember that one level where it's an octagon with 8 doors
>it's just a bunch of jumping puzzles and cyberdemons
Also, I'm pretty sure my captcha had a screenshot of Call of Duty in it.
>>338011736
How about a side view to see how much that posterior pokes out, if any at all?
>>338012246
>how powerful that rune could be
>could be
Nigger it literally breaks the game if you have Sentry Gatling or Siege Mode beam. Fucking nothing can stand up to your infinite bullet rain and rays of instant death.
>>338006494
Hell simply has a different scale of time, when you boop into one dimension, you also boop into a certain time of said dimension, but could also boop into the same dimension but in the future or past. As long as there's a gateway to hell you can go wherever the fuck you want.
IOW - It's Satanic, ain't gotta explain shit
>>338012545
Hellguard ass
>>338012550
I'll grab one since it might be hard to tell from these pictures, but the summoner has 0 ass. Basically just hipbones and no real flesh to speak of.
>>337991786
>Good
Indeed
>Great
Sure. Why not?
>The best
Get the fuck out of here. It's past your bed time sonny.Yes. I realize I am grandpa. Yes. I realize my tastes are getting slowly phased out. Yes. I am salty.No.Like any good grandpa, I will not go out quietly.
>>337996252
Hell is a pan-dimensional version of ancient rome, they invade places, fuck them up, and take their shit. Hell From The Bible is just recounting of humanity's earliest encounters with their scouts or something. All the christian mythos about deals with satan and selling your soul happened because that shit was their main mojo after it won them the war with the elemental wraiths of Argent D'nur.
>>338003146
Argent D'nur was another dimension Hell tried to conquer and absorb, and they had these tentacle monster gods that gave them unlimited raw electricity or whatever. Argent D'nur was pushing Hell's shit in until one of their main guardians('s?) son was captured by Hell and he betrayed them to get his son back.
>>338012621
Side (But slightly at an angle so you can see the concave ass) summoner
>>338012737
I'd hit it
>>337993724
>not jumping when you start to aim
>mfw watching people doing glory kills throughout the classic maps
Doesn't help they made the pistol some gay ass pew pew laser gun, that shit took down a zombie in two shots.
>>338012737
Cacodemon crotch.
Cacodemon's a man this time, baby. A MAN. Wait'll you check out his ass, no more asshole and gaping vagina.
>>338012621
The only occasion when the hips do lie
Can't we all just agree that all the Doom games are good?
Original Doom games have a modding community that will probably continue making stuff for it till the heat death of the universe, Doom 3 was a game that was WAY ahead of its time even if it altered the basic Doom gameplay in a way people didn't like and Doom 4 is probably one of the best FPS to come out in years and maintain the Doom aesthetic while doing its own thing.
Let's stop with the slap fights already.
>>338010812
I'm guessing because they don't want to piss the type of Christians who are anal about petty shit like this.
>>338012846
Cacodemon ass. Yes, it's SCROTE ALL OVER
And this concludes our study of the asses and crotches of the Doom 4 bestiary because who gives a damn about the zombies? No one that's who.
And before you say you do other anon, none of the rotted normal zombies are in the model viewer. Engineer zombie is as close as you get and he's wearing pants.
>>338012814
Stop watching people play normal, the problem with the classic maps is it takes 15-20 pistol shots to kill a normal "zombie with gun" who were the stock enemies in maps where you more or less only had the pistol.
>>338012951
But its fun.
I hated when i first heard of it but after playing it, I feel like this game gonna suck a lot of hours. Its so barebone too which is weird, you think games like this wont be fun compared to game with 1000000 attchments and shit.
>>338012846
>scrotum seam
>know this occurs because the proto vagina seals up during the indifferent fetal stage
>this means there are females and this is a biologically functional species
>suddenly interested in the ecology of hell
>>338012983
ASSS 2PHAT
>>338012951
Reminds me of every video game fandom ever. You get a franchise composed mostly of solid games, and all the fanbase does is bicker on which one is better and why so and so game sucks because it's not exactly like their favorite of the series.
Shit gets real old after awhile.
>>338012983
And a non-ass, Doom Guy's face inside the helmet. If only we had a little animated face in the HUD.
>>338013098
I remember a fan made doom page had like pictures of demons and shit with captions like 'taken by docor XYZ before multiated' went in depth of the hiearchy and shit.
>>338013260
They're trying really hard to hide his face
>>338013278
Expanded codex when
>>338013260
>that schnozz
>>338013396
Funny how the ab window became a lot more appealing
>>337994176
>comments and ratings disabled
>>338012951
You have to understand that people like games for different reasons. You could say Doom 4 is good because "it's fast" and avoids modern shooter conventions such as reloading, ADS, regen health, but that means little to someone who values the original Doom for the particular style of level and encounter design it has, which Doom 4 supplants with locked arenas.
>>338013470
Love monster codexes
>>338013543
Just like the guy playing.
>>338013396
Doomgrill a cute, cyute!!!
>>338003667
like every sourceport ever.
This game had no business being this fucking good. Just finished Argent Facility and it almost brought nostalgic tears to my eyes the moment I saw the first Baron of Hell raping the lesser demons. It's the most fun I've had on a FPS since probably Painkiller. Too bad fucking casual critics are panning it and there probably won't ever be a DOOM 2 that fixes the multiplayer bullshit. I'm at least waiting for new content that brings some more demons like Archviles and Pain Elementals.
>>338006075
i'd still rather play kbm. i guess you're right though. its not like you wouldnt be able to sr50 on a controller either.
>>338014035
>This game had no business being this fucking good.
This.
Im angry and happy at the same time.
>>337991786
can someone post the thanks romero revenant balls pic
>>337994078
>implying original team wasnt fans of nintendo
>>338012951
>all the Doom games are good?
I don't know about this new one, but 3 was fucking garbage.
>>338013514
it was never an "ab window", you dolt, it was a tear in the fabric
if you look at his leg his pants are also torn
>>338014087
Why would a game being good make you mad??
>>338010530
危険, which is, surprisingly enough, "danger".
>>338014283
not him but
>coming to 4chan expecting normalcy
as long as it's contained to this one thread and not being obnoxious like furfaggotry, just hide and ignore it
>>338014206
I never realized how mediocre Doom 3 was until I played D44M. I actually loved that game, played through it like 15 times as a teenager. I'm even still impressed at how good that game looks 12 years later. D44M campaign shits all over D3 though, although I can't say the same about the MP
>>338014283
I like hot weird aliens.
>>338014439
Thing is, there's always one guy in Doom threads who wants to be get fucked by a Baron of Hell.
I mean I can get a lot of weird fetishes like futanari horsecock or scat or whatever, but someone getting a hardon from Doom's enemies is beyond me.
>>338014738
They're demons you asshat
>>338014807
Alien/demons then.
Other wordly ass.
I can't believe it's so good.
All those shitty trailers
Shitty E3
Shitty gameplays
Shitty beta
And game is 9/10 or so. Live ir (fuck multiplayer though)
>>338014538
Doom 3 was more atmopshereic and story driven.
Dead space too a lot of stuff from doom 3.
>>338014283
That other anon wanted demon porn and it's no skin off my nose and 0 effort so why not supply it?
>>338014982
>demon porn
THERE'S FUCKING NOTHING THERE
>>338014932
Yeah but the story wasn't very good imo. It was spooky as shit playing with headphones though, and a lot of the designs where better.
>>338015159
Demon softcore porn
>>338015159
Maybe he's got a good imagination, anon. I know I've jerked off while playing Crusader Kings 2 a few times. There's arguably more going on with glistening demon asses than there is imagining your emperor's rape dungeon where you just stuffed your niece, but whatever floats your boat.
>>338015159
Use your imagination or use SFM
OH FUCK
Does anyone remember Doom RPG for old phones? Man that game was the shit.
>>338015551
IS that canon too?
or second tier cannon Since is kinda a retelling of story.
Quake 5 when?
>>338015947
Hopefully never, every new entry rapes it's own tradition even further
>>338014807
It disconcerts me a bit too, but not much we can do about it. At least they're not as bad as fucking smellposters and thickposters.
>>338016243
>smellposters
What? When did this happen?
Oh, demon crotch-anon, if you're still here I completely forgot to share this picture too while I was crotchposting for you. Actually took this picture earlier in the day as I was playing but it's somewhat relevant to your interests since it involves an imp ready to receive the dick.
>>338016419
They go on and on about what (x character)'s dirty residue would smell like. I don't know, it's been happening for a while.
Can someone please explain how the fuck are Pinkys more powerful and resistant than Hellknights in this game?
>>338016243
>smellpoaters and thickposters
Lelle get a whiff of that post
>>338016829
Hell Knights aren't armored, I guess.
>>337994661
dude is tearing shit up
>>338016829
Considering how late in the game pinkies are revealed (Either last or next to last normal enemy IIRC) the pinkies were just kinda retooled to be big badasses in Doom 4. Kinda like revenants aren't as nasty as Doom 1 and 2.
>>338014738
Hawt ayelien bruh
>>338016829
Because Doom 1 and 2 pinkies were lames as shit pushovers.
>>338016470
thats more erotic than it should be...
That transporting bitch who shoots out redish purple lazer pulses is a right bitch, love that they put options in the console versions turned off ca straight away havent touched snapmap or mp want to finish the cammy
>>338014738
>you'll never run your finders trough her chitinous rib/gill things.
Jesus Christ, why did you post that anon? Now I'll have to live with this.
>>337991786
>The best Doom game
>>338017381
>FUUCK
I can see the appeal of demons now.
Spooky shouldn't be this sexy
>>338011070
SMASH SMASH?
ram ram?
>>337994661
All of those fucking melee kills are fucking stupid, big turn-off for me. Stopping every 10 seconds to stand still is irritating.
>>338017678
it's actually 1.5 seconds
>>338017864
Closer to 0.5 seconds with the upgraded rune.
>>338017889
oh neat!
>>337991786
>The best Doom game
>>338016470
>demon feet :3
>>338014738
I wish I had more of that dude's creepy Peridot.
All I have is this which looks kind of like an insect.
>TFW playing and loving Doom 4 made you finally get off your ass and look at Doom 64
Level design seems good, but enemies are even slower and more passive than Doom 1 and 2 (Understandable since console) and the shitty animations and lack of music are killing my erection. It's like some weird combination of Doom and Quake. Not bad but that fucking shotgun animation.
>>338018521
Hopefully new eps will inspire.
I grown to like creepy shit cuz of that art
>>338014283
SFM when?
>>338018565
Is it weird I actually prefer the ambient music of Doom 64?
I mean not that I dislike Doom's music but it definitely fits Doom 64's more darker atmosphere. Plus well made ambiance is just rare in general.
>>338013260
Can't see shit boss
>>338000659
>What is gauss cannon
It looks on. I want to play it, but not buy it basically. Visually it looks a bit dull, but its probably nicer when in game and not a stream. Music is shit too.
It may well be fun, but there's no way I'm paying full price.
Just saw a stream of the new Home front too, and it looks just as bad as the first. What the hell were they thinking?
Are there any good fps games on the PS4 right now? Got Vattlefrint when it was half price and it was ok, but that's as far as the praise goes.
>>337991786
Is this game scary?
Am I going to have to play it in the day time with the lights on?
>>338019319
Microsoft scooped up all the worthwhile console shooters.
>>338019379
Like what? Legit question. I had an xbone but sold it and swapped. Gears was decent but I prefer fps. I hated Halo though.
>>338019489
Perfect Dark
>>338019356
Not scary or spooky no whispers.
>>338002502
It kind of disgusts me that brutal doom is one of the most prolific doom mods ever (love it or hate it) and out of petty elitism it's not included in this image.
Get the fuck over yourselves.
Why is Doomguy such a fucking dork?
>>338019663
Because Doomguy is all of us :^)
Does this game support 4:3?
Thinking about getting the old CRT out and trying this game in 2048x1536 if it supports it.
Will we ever get a coop mode?
It's alright, but every fight is an arena where all you need to do is keep moving.
Without a bit of variety in the fights, it gets boring.
>>338019356
It's more gorehound slasher horror than jumpscare ghost movie.
i like doom 3
>>338019592
>Get the fuck over yourselves.
>after crying that they didn't include the cancer mod
>>337991786
Kill yourself
>>338019595
>>338019587
Disappointing for DOOM. It ain't a Doom game unless you get nightmares from playing too long before bed.
>>338019592
doom purists are mega butthurt about brutal dooms popularity despite it being the best and most in-depth gameplay mod
>>338019842
Yeah, if DOOM 3 is your first doom game.
Literally can't have that opinion otherwise.
>>338019842
The originals weren't even remotely scary.
Only the 3rd one tried to be a horror game.
>>338019663
>>338019717
I sometimes forget that he's mostly going against hordes of demons so he's angry and has a raging murder boner most of the time. He's probably a bro around humans.
>>338019784
Me too!
Was creepy as fuck.
>>338019871
>best and most in-depth
Explain yourself.
>>338019894
>>338019885
children pls go
>>338019842
>nightmares from Doom
Sheltered much? Does your youth pastor know you're on the internet?
>>338019894
You mean specters in a dark room didn't scare the piss out of you when you were a lad?
>>338019991
>calling people children
>his first doom game was doom 3
Kek.
>>338019769
Is there much in the way of conserving ammunition?
I've been playing through Doom 64 EX on Watch Me Die! and pistol-starting each level and you really have to watch your ammo and health pick-ups and plan a route through each level and encounter.
>>338020057
Enemies bleed ammo and pickups are universal.
>>338019991
>implying that is even remotely scary.
Doom 1 and 2 demons looked far too goofy to be scary.
>>338019885
Doom 64 was really scary for me as a 13 year old. Original Doom can be pretty creepy at times too.
>>338019980
best is subjective obviously, but every single weapon and monster is remade with a ton of new animations, there are other full weapon replacements and some add or change enemies but there are no complete overhauls as big as brutal doom
>>338020057
Not really. If you're low, enemies drop as much ammo as you need, and if you're in a dire emergency the chainsaw will make an enemy drop huge amounts of ammo.
>>338020174
Not to metion the limb damage system and how crazy in depth the new gibs are.
>>338020163
I had a nightmare about the cyberdemon back in the day. I blame his bigass arena and the constant WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP and then suddenly he pops out from around a wall and has his way with you.
>>338020023
Specters were perhaps the only enemies that were scary, and that was largely because you couldn't even properly see what those fucks looked like, at first encounter at least.
Again, Doom demons look so damn goofy that it is really hard to fear them. When I saw a pinky for the first time, I burst out laughing.
>>338019994
I grew up in the age before most children had seen a man murdered with a hammer or prostitutes eat their own shit via the internet. And yes, my family was religious so Doom was quite taboo and playing it felt eerie.
>>338020174
Project MSX added in a bunch of new mechanics and weapons.
>>338020242
there isnt really a limb damage system its just some custom death animations, the only difference is headshots do more damage
>>337991786
Sitting in this chair probably, I don't move very far from it.
>>338020121
That's really disappointing. Sounds like there isn't really much of a game there, just a mindless slaughterfest. In the first three Doom games if you don't watch your ammo you can end up fucked near the end of the level.
>tfw no mods
>no crotch gun mod
>no Doomguy HUD face mod
Wasted potential
>>338020309
there's alot of weapon mods, there's no mods that change the enemies anywhere near as much as brutal doom
>>338019994
i think the highest I've ever jumped playing a video game was e2m4, walked past a baron of hell or something and alerted it so it played the evil demon howling sound. i died because i couldn't find my place for my hands on my keyboard before it killed me.
>>338020372
its been like a week you nigger
>>338020292
>Doom demons look so damn goofy that it is really hard to fear them
That's mostly just you, anon. Look any review or comments about the game and you'll find people saying it's one of the few games that people find actually unsettling.
I want to remake morbius station level from ut3cin snapmap and just kill
>>338013681
nice
>>338006494
Argent D'Nur =/= Earth
Will there be custom SP maps and campaigns?
>>338020832
Nope, snapmap only.
>>338020832
you can use snapmap to put together incredibly generic maps out of premade hallways
modern graphical fidelity means you need a team of artists with 10 years experience to actually make decent looking maps
>>338017975
I wonder if he played it and what he thinks of it.
>>338020963
he did some work on it before he left id
can you disable the finishers at all?
>>338020770
No, but I want the game to make me feel like I am. I want to feel uneasy while playing the game.
>>337991786
>ends on a cliffhanger
>don't even get to fight the fucking robot
>buy episode 2 goym
>>338021053
Ah, didn't know what year he left.
>>338021072
you can disable the blinker and you can not do them.
Write to besthda to give more optinos like turn off glory kill melee, or turn of temp invulnerability in glory kills and increase monster agressiveness etc.
Im sure they would add these things, its minor flags and stuff
>>337991786
who cares shill?
>>338021072
No. You technically don't have to use them, but you miss out on a big amount of dropped health / ammo.
>>338020893
>>338020880
That makes sense.
So there won't be anything new visually but surely someone will be able to put together campaigns with a decent gameplay flow?
>>338021214
> turn of temp invulnerability in glory kills
Why?
>>338021294
you can make shitty snapmaps but what's the point? It's not like the original doom where there's a ton of interesting monster and geometry combos, you can experience most of what the game has to offer in the single player campaign that's already there
>>338021294
Not really anon. The snapmap is all based on the multiplayer code so there's a 2 weapon limit and you can only have 6 monsters active at a time.
>>338021072
No. But you can make then even faster with rune upgrades.
>>338021424
>>338021428
Well that sucks ass.
>>338021357
Because hes THAT hardcore bro hes tough as fuck
>you are now aware that Doom guy isn't holding a gun in his left hand in pic related, it's a fireball thrown at him
The Mandela Effect is real
>>338021357
turn off because I want my shit pushed in
>>337994176
>Gets hit by the possessed at the start
>Doesn't go for head shots
>Barely aims at all
>Stands still while fighting
You think I can watch more than a minute of this fucker playing with a controller and no fucking clue?
>>338019379
>Microsoft scooped up all the worthwhile console shooters.
But Playstation has Resistance and Killzone.
Resistance: Fall of Man is actually a great hybrid of classic and modern FPS. Its fast paced, no ADS, hordes of enemies, strafing around projectiles, non regenerating health, you hold all your weapons at once, every weapon has a gimmicky alt-fire mode.
Its great, but sadly overlooked by nearly everyone who didnt buy a Ps3 at launch.
>>338021562
it's literally always been like that
>>338021562
It's because he's holding a shotgun in his left hand in the Doom menu picture, Francis. It's slightly different from the box art.
>>338021214
>temp invulnerability in glory kills
That's a couple of frames of invulnerability. The animations take less than a second but you can still recieve damage during them.
>>338021562
Did anyone ever think that or was it just you?
>>338021562
Logically the guy in the background has to be Doom Guy. The space marine in the foreground is being attacked by a Cyberdemon and several Barons of Hell and the only thing he has to defend himself is a pistol. Pretty sure he's dead meat.
Also guy in the background has two guns which is more like Doom Guy.
>>338017864
>it's actually 1.5 seconds
Can you read? Seriously, are you fucking illiterate, shill?
>No unlockable Ross Scott voice mode
What's the fucking point?
https://youtu.be/iKQSv8p9BXU
>>338021790
I still want to recieve full damage and when I fuck up I get whipped for it.
dodging a bullet takes up less than a second too anon.
I want iD software to keep earning my money by providing me such services and updates. Go big or go home faggit
>>338021874
Sorry sorry, english is second tongue.
Game is busted pile of shit, it randomly crashes and when it's not randomly crashing its audio is having a stroke while the frame rate is pissing it self. Had to refund it, the first game i ever had to refund ever since Steam's refund system. The game's visuals are not even amazing, yet somehow it's more demanding the Witcher 3, Dark Souls 3, Fallout 4 or injecting Skyrim with an ungodly amount of mods and ENB.
>>337994585
It's not good, but still better than most stuff that got released recently.
>>338022091
Works fine on my system :^).
>want to explore an area for secrets
>run ahead a bit to unlock the rest of the map
>door locks behind me and i have to restart the whole level
real tired of your shit bethesda
>>337991786
How come Doom can run at 1080p @ 60FPS for consoles, but other shooters can't?
Man they really put some soul into this game and the easter eggs remind me of a simpler time
>>338022315
what does it say?
Also the moons on the gun too
>>338022315
I can't readout what that says
>>338022315
cant read shit captain
>>337994176
>all that screen tearing
Oh yeah and the guy's aim sucks too
>>338022232
Not as much as in Wolfenstein though.
>>338020367
Enemy aggression and mobility is massively jacked up to compensate, it's even more of a bullet hell type game.
>>338021862
You can see the tip of a gun at the bottom so the boxart is probably Doomguy looking at this whole situation from a first person view.
>>338022523
feels weird hell knight moving so fast and literally come after my booty.
>>338021993That's okay then, that's more languages than I can speak
>>338022696
It's attached to one of the demons.
>>338022915I hope you have a good day or the good night sleep. Take care
>>338022930
It could be a machine gun like the one the marine in the middle is holding, and it might be why that demon is turned around looking all smug. Also it being an FPS and all.
>>337996945
Step 1: be Doomguy
Step 2: be in power armour
Step 3: Have a celestial being favour your rage and resolve so much it blesses you with might
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit
>>338021862
Nope. The one getting swarmed is Doomguy. The marine in the background isPlayer 2
>>338023308
It's wired to his arm.
>>337991786
>shilling this fucking hard
The advertising option in reports was specifically deleted because this board would have ten thousand reports for advertising going to moderation every day. This blatant shilling needs to stop.
>>338023483Cortana is my vidya wiafu.Thank you anon
>>338020028
>>338020163
>Neo-/v/ is too dumb to piece together that people played the first two Dooms as children.
>Neo-/v/ is too dumb to understand that dumbass small children get scared to shit by anything loud and violent.
>>338023760
I played Doom when I was like 13, and it didn't scare me one bit.
>>338023449
what
I mean this
Is there a way to skip the "stay in this room and stare at exposition" sequences? It makes replaying some levels annoying.
>>338022315
It says
"Welcome to doom
You are doom
To doom or not to doom
-------doom"
I couldnt read the bottom but its nice to have some nonsensical.bullshit the developers put in
>>338023919
>Samuel's Office
Whoever put that in should be fired. Literally you only needed to be there so Samuel could zap you, everything else could have been told through a skype call or whatever.
Same with VEGA's dialogue in the beginning of mission 2 I think it was. There was NO fucking reason for the room to have you locked up.
>>338022315
>WELCOME TO DOOM
>YOU ___ DOOM
>TO DOOM OR NOT TO DOOM?
>_____ OF THE DOOM
>>338023898
It would explain the demon looking back
>>338005401
Replay value is the least of the game's problems. It has secrets, challenges, NG+ and some people make good snapmap levels.
>>338002502
>HDoom
Well, that was interesting.
>>338002405
>Is Brutal Doom a good start? I'm kind of turned off by the iron sights and superfluous animations and shit.
You're a pretentious fucking hipster faggot. Eat a dick.
>>338021562
>Mandela Effect
reminds me that I always thought cyberdemon's eyes were pic related
what a fucking moron I was
>>338014035
Critics aren't panning it. It has an 83 on Metacritic.
>>338023893
I played it when I was about six, back when the DOS version was the only available one. My grandpa had it on a floppy disk, alongside Jeopardy, Ghostbusters, Wolfenstein 3D, and King's Quest VI.
Admittedly, it scared me then. The ambient MIDI soundtrack in later levels, the grunting and growling of baddies around the corner, the horrific way Doomguy screamed upon death... Not to mention all the satanic imagery invading my carefully indoctrinated, bible-beaten brain. It was tough to play alone in the dark and the taboo of my mom catching me with pentagrams on the screen made it twice as thrilling.
Do those evil modern animations slow gameplay? I think some popular gaming person was bitching about it. I've seen some part of gameplay and i think this kind of game should have keycards as a pickup, not as a five-second animation of ripping keycard off dead body.
Then again, i think i'll play it anyway. Wolfenstein TNO was great.
>>338019980
I don't have to, go play it yourself
>>338027242
Doom gameplay was never fast. Maybe it was for purists who have played the same game 200+ times but for most of us who played it the first few times it was as slow, tactical and trial and error based as any other fps.
>>338027398
sure, it wasn't, but there is a tremendous difference between getting your "controls" taken away and always keeping them.
For example, HL2 was slow but it didn't felt "this kind of slow" because player always had some kind of controls over character, even if it was restricted to head movement.
>>338027398
>Doom gameplay was never fast if you were bad
ok
>>338027535
If you can't play a game because you need absolute and total control over your character at each moment, you may have an undiagnosed psychological illness.
That's not viable for contemporary games, maybe in another 50 years when VR is perfected or some shit.
>>338013217
>>338013396
>>338013830
If you're going to put female PCs in NuDoom, at least make it the Demonsteele girls so I can play as a supersonic blender again.
>>338027631
Being "good" at Doom in the way you're talking about is being good at the game in a way the developers never intended. The default way of playing Doom, Duke Nukem, Blood, or other games of the time is not based on being as fast as possible.
>>338027736
>THE GAME IS NOT A PROBLEM, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM
okay, it seems like i started asking those oh-so-terribly-controversial questions just a little too early
>>337993927
Snapmap is a upgraded version of timesplitters map maker with the online functions of Halo forge.
Other than no hellscapes to mod Snapmap has eveuthing you need to create indepth and complex levela.
Or juat fill a room with tons of Barons of hell and some a bfg 9000
>>338027818
Why do you think you know about developer intentions?
>>338027736
>That's not viable for contemporary games
Why?
>>338027887
>this game should cater to my specific disability where it would otherwise suit everyone else perfectly
It's not that your questions are controversial, they're just stupid.
>>338028186
Because giving absolute player control would make the sort of animations in cut-scenes that give narrative depth to most games impossible. People can barely move their limbs believingly in VR.
>>337994661
first not-unknown twitch broadcaster*
>>338028409
And why does every single game have to have a narrative focus?
>>338028409
>Because giving absolute player control would make the sort of animations in cut-scenes that give narrative depth to most games impossible
Tell the story without cut-scenes.
>>338028638
This, Half-Life showed its more than possible.
>>338028509
It doesn't, if you want to go back to playing minimal-narrative games like peek-a-boo, hide and seek, tetris, space war, and snakes and ladders.
Most adult human beings don't last very long on these games, having spent their adult lives being immersed in entertainment that has such a narrative focus.
>>338028760
Jesus christ I can't handle this shitpost right now
DOOM SINGLE PLAYER CRAKKED
>>338028509
>>338028760
Even a minor narrative focus helps gameplay. Lets take the the original Doom for an example, even just editing the entrance and exit of each level to give the player a sense of progress (ie turning the exit of one level into a train that you start the next level on) really goes a fair way to improving the 'game feel'. Just something to make it feel like you're going through an interconnected world rather than a series of completely separate maps.
Its all about immersion.
>>338029131
You missed the difference between having a narrative and being focused on narrative
>>338028409
or prehaps your balant fanboyism is what's stupid there, we'll never know
>HURR STOP IMPLYING SOMETHING MAY BE WRONG, I LOVE THIS GAME AND SO WILL YOU A-AND THIS GAME IS NOT MADE FOR YOU SO YOU CAN'T POINT OUT THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE
>>338029131
>really goes a fair way to improving the 'game feel'
What do you even think that means?
>>338029242
True, adding little details is a far cry from locking the player in place and talking at them for five minutes, but I'm pretty sure there's been games that do environmental storytelling well enough to count as being 'focused on narrative'. Just don't ask me to name any - I'm probably going to pass out sometime in the next ten minutes.
>>338029374
It means that it feels good and I'm too fucking tired to go into further detail. I'm sure you're a smart person, work it out for yourself. Its not that hard.
>>338029625
Gamefeel is an actual thing and it has nothing to do with narrative
>>338029783
That's a shit book and even if this anon is wrong, gamefeel can be related to narrative, because narrative leads to presentation and the game feel can be altered by the presentation.
>>338030342
>That's a shit book
You're a shit
>>338019356
Dont downlaod it. DENUVO protection will reck your SSD. Not worth it imo.