What went wrong? When did it all go so wrong?
after saints row 2
They went full retard with 3 and made 90% of the missions just introductions to side missions.
Steelport is the absolute worst crime game city ever designed in a video game.
>>337954750
It doesn't even feel like an actual city, I can't explain why but it seems so.. robotic
>you will never feel the joy of singing along with your character ever again
>>337955880
>they added it again into 4
>it's just a single shitty scripted sequence that happens in a mission
>it wasn't even Down Under
All the saints rw games are shit and this is from someone who has completed the first 3. theyre good to play whole ur waiting for the next gta but that's about it. they have shit graphics, shit driving, shit shooting, shit story and shit cities. terrible games
>>337954528
SR3.
I never played Saints Row, but did it really get that bad?
>>337957570
It went from a game that told a dark story with relateable characters and fun gameplay to "LOLRANDUM PENIS VAGINA FART POOP XD" with shit gameplay and shittier story
That seems accurate.
>>337957570
>>337957890
>>337954528;_;
>>337954528
2 was the best one. I feel like its what the series should have been, a fun open world shooter that's a bit over the top. Really, like a action movie that's not to serious. Also with tons of Customization, I feel the series is underrated in that aspect.
3 was just bullshit. Though 4 was good/decent. Almost a different genre really. A bad shooter, but a good superhero game.
But I don't think they'll make a 5th
>>337958203
4 was essentially just Crackdown 2.5
But did they do anything better than other open world games?( Like GTA)
>>337958203
>But I don't think they'll make a 5th
Does GooH count?
Even if it doesn't, they'll be more. Volition is owned by Deep Silver now; they'll be pumping out shitty SR games until they're dead.
SR3 > SR4 > GoH > SR2 > SR1
I judge games based on fun.
>>337958139
RIP MY NIGGA
>>337958203
>But I don't think they'll make a 5th
They already did if you count expandalones.
What was the original name for Saints Row again?
>>337958368
How many human sacrifices do we have to make get Volition to make Freespace 3?
>>337958541
There aren't enough humans to sacrifice.
>we'll never get another highly customizable open world urban crime video game with perfectly balanced humor and drama like saints row 2 ever again
>>337958541
I want one more good Red Faction game. Armageddon was an embarrassment.
>>337958619
I'll do it anyway.
I remember, Saints Row was originally supposed to be called "Bling Bling".
>>337958139
Feels bad man
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IVogNlz.png "latest[1].png")
>>337958532
>>337958646
Shame it was mostly shittily optimized on PC but yeah
SR2 was fun as shit. I mean, I enjoyed basically all of the SRs as goofy and stupid the newer ones are but SR2 had the perfect balance between being goofy and being serious.
>>337958532
Bling Bling
>>337954629
Best answer, even if it is by a tripfag
>>337958751
Thank you for that logo.
Saints Row was okay
Saints Row 2 is my favourite game, that balance of humour and plot, I've played through it at least 5 times, solo and co-op, always locking my character to a certain type of vehicle and weapon
Saints Row 3 was an abomination
Saints Row 4 was fun, but just another crackdown really
Try to imagine a trailer that has some guy saying "Bling Bling, the game!"
>>337958662
I preferred when they were first person, it's one of the only series where i wouldn't mind a modern reboot, that and Condemned.
Is the first Saints Row even memorable?
>>337959241
Not really.
Would be nice if we could get it on PC though.
>>337959241
Not really it was ok though.
How broken is the pc version?
>>337959241
I've only played through parts of 1 and 2, but I'd say it's pretty memorable, the first thing that sticks out in my mind about it is the initiation mission where you have to beat up a lot of dudes before getting to the boss of the gang.
>>337959523
I hear the PC port of Saints Row 2 was pretty awful though.
>>337959529
Quite, there are mods that fix it though.
>>337954750
Sleeping Dogs had one of the worst open worlds I've seen. Completely dead and static.
>>337959529
Very broken. Mods help but it still crashes and corrupts save data. Crashes 10x more in co-op.
>>337954528
SR was a GTa game in a console generation that didn't have a GTA game at that point.
SR2 improved on the SR in almost every way (Even if it was full of bugs) even going as far as having more fleshed out characters and a darker story.
SR3 is clearly unfinished, about 60% of the map is never visited or utilized as part of the main story and a lot of content seems to be just thrown in just to justify the $60 price tag. (The season pass bullshit is entirely inexcusable)
SR4 is the devs realizing what they have become and trying to make the funnest game possible. It barely even qualifies as a saints row game.
>>337959631
its horrible, sound is stereo only, the online servers are tied to gamespy and the controls needs to be remapped hard before playing
They tried to be too 'random' without getting what made Saints Row 2 great. It's the fact that your black guy with an australian accent wearing a stalagmite hat is 100% serious when he's asking where's the month's cocaine shipment. Your character was never fucking around and was all business, all the time. Now in the new ones it's just 'look at how badass this is! wow! a dildo weapon! pretty crazy, isn't it???'
Saints Row 3 was a mess cause it tried to balance it and failed miserably. At least 4 didn't even try to balance it and just acknowledged that going full 'random' is better than the shit balance of plot and wackynes that was 3.
>we will never get another game as great as Saints Row 2
The way people describe the last 2 games are like how everyone describes 9gag.
>SR will never have this tone again
>>337959897
All true but worth the effort
>>337959834
Funniest part about SR3? There was supposed to be even more content than what was in the game including the dlc. The saints row wiki should fill you in on some of the cut content.
>>337960309
Fucking juggalos
>>337957139
kys
>>337958414
kys
>>337959241
It came out close to the 3shitsty's launch so it's aged like complete shit. Not really worth it.
>>337959529
Tried to play it in coop, but gave up. Too many crashes, disconnects etc
>>337959906
>we will never get another game as great as Saints Row 2
GTAV bro
Might not have the myriad of filler side missions but the wackiness is definitely there.
Saints row undercover, a cancelled PSP game.
>>337960193
Gat was brutal and it was brilliant
I'm planning on getting 2 because 3 was my first Saints Row game. What did I miss out on?
>>337958304
SR2 had quite a few objects throughout the open world that can be used as weapons. GTA never did that, I don't think so anyway. SR2 is a massively underrated game.
>>337961097
I don't know, maybe you should play the fucking game you plan on getting.
around the time fans started using that penis dildo weapon
>>337960181
That implies that 9gag had the potential to be good but ballsed it up, 9gag was always doomed to be garbage.
>>337961201
>massively underrated
It was hugely popular, both critically and commercially.
>>337961306
Exactly.
>>337961234
I'd like to know what I'm getting into first.
>>337958296
More like it was the real Crackdown 2. The "Crackdown 2" we got was just just Crackdown 1.5
>>337957890
It went from a not-GTA knockoff to full on sperg humor that people seemed to latch onto and enjoy. It made the devs more money than the first two games did, so whatever.
>>337954528RIDE 'TILL I DIE
How did they screw up Saints Row?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6IIRjUhO8
>>337961607LORD KNOWS I STAY HIGH
>>337961896
Read the thread fag
>>337961586
You just need to think that through for half a second and it's not so 'whatever' anymore since the only reason that it made them so much money was because of people playing the second game and getting excited about the sequel. The changes they made were an unwelcome surprise, not a selling point.
>>337961097
If you're getting it on PC, you NEED the gentlemen of the row mod, but even then you've got a high chance of it crashing a lot. In all honesty, you'd be best off getting it on a console
You will also want to read up on the plot of the first game
>>337962025
Hey, sorry man.
Who doesn't want to be Johnny Gat?
>>337958414
>I judge games based on fun
>proceeds to list the least fun order of Saints Row possible
>they never released the DLC for the pc
>>337961905
Gonna be honest, those graphics have not aged very well.
I said "Do you speaka my language?", he just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich.
>>337962084
>You will also want to read up on the plot of the first game
Haha what the fuck, they're barely even related beyond that secret mission
I played it on my 360 years later I built a Pc , and read that it had port.
>mfw
>>337962438
It always looked bad.
>>337959631
>>337959897
Why does no one ever mention that CDPR made the Saints Row 2 port?
>>337959739
at least it looked nice
>>337962579
Gta iv came out a couple months earlier, you think they would have realized that the engine has to look good.
Rappers, I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin'
Musician, inflictin' composition of pain
I'm like Scarface sniffin' cocaine
Holding an M16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bullet holes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes, hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sitting bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner betting Grants with the cee-lo champs
Laughing at baseheads tryna sell some broken amps
G-packs get off quick, forever niggas talk shit
Reminiscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
Niggas be running through the block shootin'
Time to start the revolution, catch a body, head for Houston
Once they caught us off-guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin' niggas, one ran – I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream, my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze, heard it click, "Yo, my shit is stuck"
Try to cock it, it wouldn't shoot, now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
And it was full of children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So what you sayin'?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger niggas pulling the triggers bringing fame to their name
And claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids – they run up on us
45's and gauges, Macs, in fact
>>337962598
It wasn't the RED division that most people are familiar with but a now-defunct part of the main company.
Or some shit like that.
>>337962515
Maybe it's because I played the first game so close to the second and it was fresh in my mind, but I felt it was impactful to know the Saints past and what the Boss was like before the boat
>>337957890
>relateable characters
no.
SR2 is one of my personal GOATs
But, no.
>>337962821
When's the last time you took a good look at GTA4?
Both those games looked pretty bad.
Gotta go restart my fucking browser.
>>337963009
But the RAGE engine blew me away back when i first saw it...at least it was better than that Renderware engine they used to use.
How do you enjoy this shitfest? It plays like a game on miniclip.
It got the superhero vibe just right but the city never changed and was barely interactive. Cars became obsolete and side missions seemed pointless. The superhero shit could have worked if the game made any attempt to not be the same exact shit after every mission. The time of day didn't even change.
Nothing went wrong. IV is the best in the series
>>337963443
I think they actually cut some parts of the city from SR3
I COME FROM THE LAND DOWN UNDER
>>337963570
Please explain why you think this.
Is there a studio that has ever fucked up a series as hard and quickly as Volition did?
>>337963980
Bioware and Dragonage
>>337963980
>>337960193
>That scene and pic related
I never thought I'd be feeling for the villains especially after Carlos but fuck me I horrified
>>337964146
Bioware just completely lost their shit after mass effect 1 and dragon age origins. Its a shame since they were both good games.
Need for speed got fucked up real bad.
>>337962863
DON'T YOU
FORGET ABOUT ME
>get out of the loop for vidya for a couple of years around 2011/12
>get SR3 on PS Plus free a few years later
>play it
>it's pretty fun, some annoying stuff mechanically but not a bad game
>years later listening to some old Giant Bombcast game of the year podcasts
>Jeff is trying to push SR3 for game of the year, hyping it up like crazy and calling it one of the best games ever made
>everyone else is agreeing it's an amazing game
Did I miss something? Was this game held in high regard when it was released, because I honestly thought it was a fun game but nothing special at all. Definitely not goty worthy
>>337957890
>relateable characters
Nothing more relateable for the average video game player than gangster in the hood
Also SR3 had the best game play, just worst story
>>337962040
Saint's Row 3, first and last game I'll ever pre-order.
The last 2 didn't look so bad, but still to many dildos and shit.
>>337965509
THIS SO FUCKING HARD
I'll forever keep the tf2 items as a reminder of my shame
>>337964445
>When you check the trunk, remember that you should have offered me more than twenty percent
>>337964239
NFS 2015 was godtier compared to MW2012
I miss hanging out and being bros with gat in SR2. There was something special about how ride or die he was in 2
I never really came to appreciate Stilwater from SR2 until just recently.
The sheer amount of diversity on that that map and varied amount of different NPCs all suited to these specific places deserves some level of recognition.
>>337966680
Unlike Steelport and its poo brick buildings. OH but they have neon shit streaks too.
What went wrong with Saints Row 2? It was still a GTA clone like Saints Row 1 was, only it tried to be more serious, which is what open world crime games are bad at being.
The series finally found its niche with 3 and became more than a GTA clone.
>>337967157
No, it had a niche with 2 and they fucked it up with 3. You dildo-bat babbies are poison.
2 had balance, that GTA never had. It was wonderful and unique, and weird; in a good way.
>>337958203
>I feel like its what the series should have been, a fun open world shooter that's a bit over the top.
Go play GTA, since that's exactly what GTA is.
>>337967318
>No, it had a niche with 2 and they fucked it up with 3.
2's niche was GTA for people who didn't want to pay for GTA proper.
SR3 broke the series away from being a straight-up GTA clone. It was a breath of fresh air in a stale, overpopulated genre.
>>337958991
It was cool to see your character do all the crazy shit in the cutscenes. The bartender getting light up was gold.
>>337967318
>GTA never had
Vice City and San Andreas.
>>337967490
No it was for people who didn't like how super serious GTA 4 was.
/v/ I'm not going to lie I like SR3 and SR4 playing COOP with my friend.
I played SR2 on the PC when I saw it was on sale and really liked the game design, it was pretty unique for an open world game with how you approached the missions. It also seemed like it had way more missions than SR3 and SR4 to flush out the game.
BUT HOLY FUCKING CHRIST THE PORT WAS SO BAD. I just couldn't do it /v/. I'm sorry.
>>337966156
Same, when they, seemingly at random, decided he wasn't going to feature in SR3, I felt betrayed. What kind of fucking game were they trying to make? What kind of Saints Row game doesn't star Johnny Gat? Turns out, a mediocre one.
>>337967731
Oh no it's fine man, the port is bad no doubt about it. Gentlemen of the Row mod made it much more bearable to play.
>>337967872
>Gat dies offscreen
>'lol whatever he'll turn up later on'
>endgame, still hasn't turned up
>'hmm maybe it's a secret mission post-game'
>roll credits
>Congratulations! You have unlocked zombie Johnny Gat!
what the fuck were they thinking
>>337961586
>>337962040
>>337965509
SR3 is critically acclaimed. It's super humorous with missions that are stupendous.
>>337968337
>that DLC
LITERALLY RETARD GAT
>>337967690
>No it was for people who didn't like how super serious GTA 4 was.
GTA4 was still a bit over the top with its visual gags and radio commercials. It was only a bit more serious overall than San Andreas, yet San Andreas is beloved.
No, Saints Row 2 is for people who wanted GTA but didn't want to play GTA proper. It's a me-too game in a crowded market. At least SR3 ditched any pretensions of the series being something other than not-GTA and went over the top, thus differentiating it from GTA.
Is the PS3 version of SR2A good? Been in my backlog forever.
>>337968337
They didn't have a clue what they were doing. They rushed the game.
May I also remind you that we don't have a canon ending to SR3.
>>337968487
SR2 is better than any GTA, though. GTA4 was trite, tryhard garbage with boring missions and a glacial pace. It had fantastic atmosphere and some decent characters, but I still never felt like beating it because it just plain wasn't fun or engaging enough. San Andreas is beloved because it remembers to be a game, SR2 was really a perfection of what we got from that title.
>>337968487
Not who you're arguing with but actually no. I got SR2 because I had no interest whatsoever in GTAIV's world and it's ultra-serious tone and obsession with political agendas poorly masked as "satire". SR2 had a far more balanced approach to the game's world and didn't go over-the-top with shit like political rhetoric.
I also appreciate how every major diversion(even septic avenger and trail blazing) actually has some sort of backstory or explanation as to why The Boss is doing it.
>>337965380
Everything at the time was moody and serious, especially GTA4. SR3 stood out for using colours that aren't grey/brown, the wacky weapons and humour that triggers /v/ so readily
SRIV is the highest rated game in the series.
I played through the saints row games on co-op with a good friend of mine. It goes without saying that 2 is the best.
3 was serviceable. It has some of the elements of a good sandbox game. It was pretty short, though.
4 was too much. Very little challenge and you had cheat codes on at all time as a sort of gameplay mechanic. I already thought steelport was small in 3, why not just run at Super speed or fly over the whole city now?
I don't get /v/'s love for SR2. It was like GTA but worse, A LOT worse.
I just don't get it.
SR2 was really fun, but the only reason I think /v/ looks at it as fondly as they do is cause it's had the same vibe as GTA SA in a time Rockstar released GTA4
>>337954528
I honestly liked the LOLSORANDUMB aspect of the games after 2.
It deviated from being a gta clone, which is basically what it was.
>>337969037
>SR2 is better than any GTA, though.
Not really, GTAV is basically a better version of Saints Row 2 sans forcing you to complete side missions to advance the story.
>>337961335
It wasn't hugely popular, that was 3. 2 was more of a sleeper hit. People liked it a lot because it was a nice contrast to how seriously gta was taking itself at the time.
>>337958139
Getting back at someone in a video game never felt so good. Fuck you marrow fuck your best friend fuck your girlfriend Carlos was more important then them.
>>337964445
>Feeling bad for marrow
He should of suffered more
>>337972967
How about you back your retarded shit up before you come in here spouting it like it's fact?
Seriously, get the fuck out of my face and on to google. Can't wait for you to read just how big it was. Literally changed the way THQ did business.
>>337957139
don't forget the music was fuck awful in all of them
>>337973671
>Literally changed the way THQ did business
What the fuck are you talking about?
SR2 sold well enough to show that you could make a game that could be described as "like GTA but..." without losing money. Look up any review of 2 and you'll see people saying that they liked the wackiness of it.
With 3, Volition marketed it as being 2 but with better graphics, new engine, etc. When the game came out, it broke the fan base into (a) people who loved it because of how over-the-top it was and (b) people who were severely disappointed with how much Volition doubled down on the ridiculousness while scrapping features from 2, then resenting the "new" fanbase for eating this shit up.
>>337974284
Nice attempt at revisionism, but much of the advertising for SR3 still exists and can be viewed on the internet, and it plays up the wacky bullshit. At no point was it EVER portrayed to the masses as "being 2 but with better graphics". The dildo bat was front and center and Professor Genki was practically the face of the game. If you thought you were getting something closely resembling 2 before the game came out, you weren't paying attention.
>>337970712
Most of them are just contrarians mentally stuck in 2008.
Who even talks about SR2 anymore? I mean it was a good game but it never could be better than GTA and volition new it.
>>337970712
The only reason /v/ likes that game is becauseit was fun, which apparently isn't a valid reason to like a game
Of ALL the series' that have been destroyed over the years I think Saints Row will always be the most painful. SR2 was so damn good man, why did it all go so wrong? WHY?
>>337975664
This. We knew exactly what we were getting with 3 before release. It didn't make it any less painful though.
>>337977072It's because fun is subjective, what's fun for you might not be fun for others.
>>337977583
literally no, fun is a fucking buzzword, autist.
>>337977901
>everything is a buzzword
Nice meme
>>337977583
How dare you try to have a discussion on /v/
>>337977901
THIS is how you do it!
>>337978076
>everything is a meme
Nice memeHow do we go further?
Best part of SR2 was the soundtrack, when i heard Tears for Fears i lost my shit. So many good songs.
>>337978186
Going further is a meme.
>>337975664
I don't see how this is an argument, Saint's Row 2 had a commercial making fun of GTA 4 and showing all the wacky things you could do instead in SR2. We got more than that.
>>337978258
What isn't a meme?
Sr2 sucks ass. When it forced me to do 100 side mission s to to a story mission I peaced
>>337978338
Memes.
>Tfw upgrading your house was one of my favourite things about SR2 and they got rid of it in the sequels
For a game that had a big emphasis on customization, that was a step back.
>>337978503
House/hideout customization is one of the best things videogames can have.
They fucked up.
The worst thing they did was get rid of Charles Shaughnessy, people fucking love him as the Boss.
>First time playing SR2.
>Dress him up pretty normally with a purple hoodie and jeans
>Then I found the shop that sells that roman helmet
>My guy is having serious conversations, a shootout in Johnny's girlfriend's house, attending funeral traps all the while wearing this helmet and no one bats an eye
Fucking love this game
>>337954528
The mexican voice was badass.
>>337954528
2 was the best one, and was better than 99% of GTAs. Fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UazelTbMPZU
SR1 was alright
SR2 is one of the best open world games I've ever played
SR3 was garbage
SR4 was alright with a fun factor but it doesn't feel like a SR game since the powers make the cars obsolete
>>337954528
What are you on about? The series became great after 2.
>People complained about doing diversions to gain access to new story missions
>Almost all my times playing SR2 I hopped on to the diversions because they were actually really good and also unlocked great stuff
>Usually had infinite respect before even reaching the gang warfare missions
>>337954870
>parody of gta iv map
Everything slid into each other but it didn't feel right
Too synthetic, or robotic like you said.
I'm hoping that saints row 3/4 were just a fever dream or something.
>>337954629
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>>337960414
How do they work?
>>337960679
>tfw had a PSP and was hyped for this
RIP
>>337964445
Fucker deserved everything and more.
>>337972112
Hahaha
>>337976781
I can tell who you are by the atrocious spelling in your posts. You always say the most retarded shit too.
Can we get this over with?
I wanna go to Freckle Bitch's.
>people saying 3 > 2
is it summer in America?
>>337983545
Pick me up a Big Gulp while you're out.
3's story should've ended with an actual boss fight with Killbane & getting the call from Pierce afterwards.
>>337954528
Saints Row 2 was an amazing game. I have fond memories of it. It's the last semi-serious game in the franchise before it was turned into an over the top fuck-show.
