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New high level gameplay of FF XV
Direct link because fuck IGN.
http://assets4.ign.com/videos/zencoder/2016/05/16/1920/633055cc13a7a42dde236a5a78d63c0b-5000000-1463456674-w.mp4
>>337935108
Eh.
>>337935108
Looks nice. I'm still hyped for it because of how smooth the animations are.
>>337935108
>high level
jej
On topic though, the dagger attack animations look way too pre-scripted (but that's shared among all ravage animations in the game it seems)
Also, I'm sick of seeing the Duscae region
Couldn't be more disappointed in the magic system. Shame it looks like the items in the Platinum Demo.
For the rest, >>337935294
>>337935108
Stupid ass looking boyband adventures fujoshit teenage girl tumblr pandering DMC combat ripping PS2 textures shit FF died with X gay sex looking SHIT
Both demos haven't really sold me, so I don't know what else the full game can do.
>fuck IGN
wow you guys are pathetic
>>337935747
What's so bad about the magic system?
>>337935108
how about a new fucking map already jesus fuck you fucking hacks
Garbage. Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period. No. Debate.
Trying new things never meant being a new genre entirely, and that's what Square has forced on its fans for 15 years.
It all boils down to Toriyama Kitase Nomura and Tabata want their own style of game, before ever giving their core fanbase what they want instead, and they've done it for so long they've created this melting pot of people that fight all the time. In the end Final Fantasy rightfully belongs to the turn based community and they should have never had to share with other demographics in the first place.
This idea that "trends have changed" is a bulls*** lie they've perpetuated that gets shot to hell everytime it's put to the test. When ports and remakes outsell new games of theirs, when turn based Dragon Quest 9 broke the all time sales record in Japan it proves that the execs with Square-Enix don't know what they're talking about.
meh
come back when kingsglaive is released
>>337936154
Cry more, turn-based shitter.
>>337936154
I'm sure this is pasta but they don't care about japan. They want the westacuck bucks.
>>337936154
This is what blinded by nostalgia looks like.
>>337935108
It looks pretty, but is it fun? Do enemies do more than just stand around taking your hits?
>>337935954
Select magic, point at area in awkward third person aiming mode, release. Sure, in older FF games it was just selecting a spell and selecting magic, but they could have used something with a combo system like Kingdom Hearts.
>>337936596
Yes, actually the enemies design is pretty good in the way they attack and react to your attacks.
They're pretty active but you're being enough tools to deal with their attacks
>>337935108
The framerate looks better and the shuriken looks cool
>>337935108
At least maybe it's a sign that the HUD can be turned off
The latest one looks ugly as fuck
>>337936807
That's more for strategic placing. If you just tap the button, it throws it on the closest target automatically.
>>337936495
how is it nostalgia when people currently play turn based all the time and tons of turn based games do well
i mean technically all the most popular games in the world right now are turned based and you have to go pretty far down the list to find one thats not
>>337936807
>point at area in awkward third person aiming mode
You don't really have to do that though. If you're locked onto a target you will automatically throw your magic(?) at the enemy your locked onto
>>337937073
>i mean technically all the most popular games in the world right now are turned based
I didn't know CSGO, Dota, LoL, Gary's Mod, Starcraft were all turn based games.
>>337937073
Not sure if baiting, falseflagging or self-deluding.
>fuck IGN
the last bastion of real game journalism now that gametrailers is no more, its only their reviews that suck
>>337936996
>>337937091
Thanks, didn't know that. Makes it a bit better. Is it still treated like an item in the sense that you don't use MP but have to find or buy amounts?
Webms when.
>>337937190
I'm gonna go with all three. Anon needs to play some video games and not just read about them.
>>337937253
Craft and draw points (like in FF8)
>>337935108
>that ugly ass, incredibly boring world
The combats nice but it just doesn't have that FF charm to it anymore
>>337937253
There are elemental sources throughout the world from which you can drain and fill up your pokeballs (which are in turn, I guess, are a purchasable item) to use magic.
>>337936154
Calm down, kid
>>337936596
No
They'll throw an attack every 10 seconds but you'll stun them for 30 before they can.
>>337937368
thats a combat testing area that was shown in the gameinformer footage
>>337937539
Actually that's wrong.
You mostly deal with one enemy at a time, so others will always try to attack you in the meantime.
>>337935958
It's probably the same “part” or “demo” that G.Informer played. They did say SE have them playing another “combat mechanic” demo. If you’d notice they always fight at an almost exact same location or near it. A tower near a shack with duscae backdrop.
>>337935294
Sums up everything about XV to me.
Nothing looks bad but having been waiting for nearly a fucking decade for the game I just cannot make myself excited.
>>337937187
>>337937190
i was referring to cell phone games
>>337935108
Looks alright, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm not in a hurry to get it anyway since squeenix is taking so long to release the damn thing.
>>337937073
Too many fucking cool themed Japanese games are turn based nowadays.
>j-hipster, boy band/Belieber characters
>muh modern fantasy faggotry, instead of based medieval fantasy
>car faggotry
>nomura's fagtastic designs
>action gameplay faggotry, instead of proper ATB turn-based
>stupid over the top flashy teleporting (nothin personnel)
>generic kingdom hearts derivative music instead of glorious nobuo
>matsuno and grounded, western inspired fantasy gone forever
>sakaguchi father of FF is gone forever
Same as the demo...
lame
>>337938697
(You)
>>337938697
(You)
>>337935108
So fucking boring. I would literally turn that shit off if I were playing.
>>337939249
>I would literally turn that shit off if I were playing.
You've turned every game off that you were playing
>>337939535
>You've turned every game off that you were playing
>every game is FFXV
>>337935108
HAHA this is why Persona 5 is going to be better
>>337939779
Woosh
>>337937073
It is “nostalgia” because you whine about a change. And no, ATB or turn based RPG is not THAT great like most of you paraded it. It's repetitive, and a few challenging boss fights down the road in between hours of doing the same thing over and over again is not a good system. Even action based combat has it's own flaws.
>>337939865
>P5 better
Enjoy your biweekly story progression and the same “save the party member from evil” repetitive shit from P4.
>>337935108
Literally nothing personnel: the game
>>337940598
That already sounds better than the Backstreet Boys Roadtrip Fantasy.
>>337941630Nah, I like P3 better. I hope party members doesn't suck up to you as soon you saved them.
>>337935747
yeah, it may look cool but such boring battle gameplay kinda way too meh to care
>>337937931
>i was referring to cell phone games
>>337942212
hence the "technically"
I envy people who haven't played the demo and don't know how shallow it feels to pull that shit off
>>337943180
it looks like fucking MMO combat
I played a lot of Plat Demo. I feel the dodging is incredibly shitty because I'll press the button right before the attack hits me and I'll end up hit anyways. I try to change up my timing but it only seems to work randomly. Do I just need more practice or is the game broken?
>>337943527
The latter. Episode Duscae was miles better in that regards
>>337943372
No, Xenoblade X has mmo combat, which actually works and at least does it job.
FFXV is some weird shit stuck between action game and RPG and yet not being action RPG. Seems that only faggots who love it are kingdom hearts fans which has similar gameplay as far I gather.
I won't touch this turd of a battle mechanics ever, demos were enough for me.
>>337943884
Yeah, only KH fags don't really like the combat because of the reasons you statet - XV claims to be an action game but caters too much to casuals and turn-based faggots making it a lackluster experience.
At least KH felt fluid and responsive
>>337944069
ah, even better then
who the fuck this game aimed for? it can't decide what the fuck it wants to be.
seriously, only good thing about this game are urban locations. That's it.
>final dogma
>>337935108
Wait, SE didn't cancel this?
>>337944262
>who the fuck this game aimed for?
Tabata's old hands
>>337944262
>who the fuck this game aimed for?
Literally old men with bad hands who have bad eyesight
>>337943884
>kingdom hearts fans which has similar gameplay as far I gather.
I don't think the KH games have perfect combat but it feels much better than this.
>>337944650
>>337944907
so for old farts who think they are hot shit
gotcha
>>337944069
> casuals and turn-based faggots making it a lackluster experience
Blame japs for that.
>the demo felt too hard
2 nukes ain't enough.
>>337936154
>Garbage. Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period. No. Debate.
No, it's an RPG that happens to have had turn based combat in the past, that many fans tolerated in order to enjoy the rest of the adventure
>>337945041
The sad thing is, KH3 probably going to have the “inject realism” meme. From what the trailers, it looks like they want to put some “weight” into Sora’s attacks.
>actual samurai
thats p neat.
combat looks like ass though..
>>337946113
Since it's being done by Osaka team I've tempered my expectations.
>dat framerate
>dat magitech glitching out
>>337937335
>Draw system is back
top REEE
>fujoshit prefer Persona
>combatfags prefer Tales
>seiyuufags prefer either of them
>alienated the dinosaurs/turn-based crowd
Good luck with your game, Square.
Inevitably, fanboys end up buying your games no matter how shit they are though, so I don't think you need the luck.
Plus you could get part of the casual market with the meme open-world and pretty graphics, so long as they can get over how homoerotic the game is.
>>337947104
thing is, normalfags will buy it, that what square is betting on
why hasnt anyone made webms yet
>>337947194
they've always done that
>>337947104
>waifufags prefers Persona
Ftfy
>>337947659
this time they just going all out
>anime and movie tie in
I mean holy shit that's one hell of marketing
It looks cool as always, but at the same time it looks like a complete mess of particle effects and animations that won't feel good to control
Having played both demos, there is nothing in the video that gets me excited for the game more or less than before.
I just hope the final game has responsive controls and feel good to play.
Waiting for the pc version.
>>337948562
It's better for you to hope for a good port with no 30fps lock.
Okay for fucks sake what is up with the combat in this game?
Everything looks clunky as shit and all I ever see is Noctis warping into some predetermined warp point and then having a BILLION recovery frames where he lazily drags his ass around
Why the fuck is it so slow?
>>337948635
Why would it be? It isn't a port of a PS2 game.
>>337936807
>combo system
>KH
>in FF
You feel it too, don't you?
>>337935108
about what i was expecting, ultra high tier graphics and fancy dissidia sparkleshit combat
good thing most other companies have already long passed FF in this genre or i'd be starving looking at this
>>337948638
“Realism” or the normies will complain about “floaty” combat
I see is a gay faggot emo teleporting around in the sky, it hardly looks cool or fun
>>337935810
Oi. The gay sex is the only good looking thing about this game.
>>337949113
>paraded next gen graphics
>watered down combat system
Huh, they really are trying to make an FF7 of this gen.
>inb4 FF7 is actually great
Hah, no. Mediocre at best.
>>337950385
>i have such good taste because i don't like a 19 year old video game
>a game nobody mentioned but you
fuck off dude.
>>337935108
They finally fixed the fire. It looked like shit before
>>337935108
Remember Kingdom Hearts 2? Remember how godlike the combat was? How did Osaka Team fall so fucking far?
>>337944525
uh no, there's even a movie coming out soon and they have an anime running that is a prologue to the game.
>>337950561
Still salty from the IGN list are you?
>>337950892
I find it funny and a little fucked up how people constantly jump back and forth between using gamejournos to validate their shit opinions and then shitting on them the rest of the time, and making fun of people who buy into gamejourno opinions.
>>337944525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AptAyPIL88
is FFXV kun dead or moved onto no man's sky?
I want to lick his nose!
>>337951436
It's midnight in australia mate. Crikey
>>337936154
All I want is a FF with the combat system of X, the attention to detail of IX and a plot written by Matsuno. Is that too much to ask?
>>337952489
>x
>not x-2
>>337953321
>not XIV
>>337936154
Not really, it just means you and a bunch of other faggots can't handle change nor can you handle the fact that things should, can, and will change. The older games are there for you to play if you desire turn-base combat so much and other devs make turn-based combat games as well. Also, unless you work for Square Enix, shut the fuck up about business and execs etc. You are a consumer who buys games to play them; limit your opinions to the shit you know, not the shit you think you know.
>>337935108
are those giant samurais?
or the protagonist and his group are manlets?
>>337952489
Yes it is, because that's not what the majority is asking for.
What the fuck are those Samurais
>>337953850
Giant samurai. Bushido and bringing honor to your famiry makes you a big fucking guy.
>>337943527
Some attacks can be dodged, some cannot. AOE attacks from the IG cannot be dodged.
Dodge works perfectly fine. You just need to watch out for which attack you use it on.
>>337935108
I hate how the magic looks like a ball in Noctis's hand. It looks really dumb.
>>337953850
they're manlets
It''s pretty much confirmed the samurais are 5'11
>>337953850
They're big guys.
When are they going to show fucking ring magic? There has to be more to the MP gauge than just using throwable weapons and warping and dodging.
>>337936154
>Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series
top kek
>>337936154
no one actually likes the turn based fighting in the series, it was something that we tolerated because it was viewed as a necessity to make the game work. The other aspects of the games were so good that it was still fine. That is no longer the case. Welcome to the present.
>>337954550
All skills cost MP
All magic will just be items, accept it
>>337954753
>All skills cost MP
But in the plat demo you could use skills for free, did they change the mechanics back to Duscae?
Framerate looks tonnes better.
Fucking Japanese magic
>>337954834
That's not even true.
>>337955267
What? That you could use skills for free in the plat demo? You could just by pressing the directional buttons, all the Broadsword's skills were totally free to use.
>>337954540
for you
>>337955674
You're actually retarded. Like holy fuck.
>>337956285
He's right. Triangle is now for warping and you activate tempest skill by holding the stick away from the enemy and pressing the attack button
this is going to be the best final fantasy of the whole series
Hahaha, FF even trying? I mean Tokyo Mirage session is going to blow this out of the water.
>>337953850
Both
>>337954365
how the fuck are you supposed to know
you can't build a game with a non-telegraphed distinction between blockable and unblockable attacks that ALSO has apparently severe input lag problems
how are you supposed to work it if it's unblockable or you just fucked up
>>337957869
The game tells you not all attacks are dodgeable.
And Dodge works perfectly fine since it's an on or off state depending on if the button is being pressed. It's not an input lag issue.
>>337957869
>>337958635
The demo has issues, but seriously, no one even bothered reading the load screens saying this or even experimenting a bit with an action combat system.
>>337954753
Skills are party commands now. But I doubt they'll cost MP, but it didn't, MP bar is somewhat useless in this game. And like this guy >>337954834 said (he's probably saying about the skill Tempest, where in Duscae it's an active command, but in Platinum it's a different combo set for the greatsword). So now, you'll have 2 type of tempest skill, one for Noctis and one for Gladio.
>>337958635
>The game tells you not all attacks are dodgeable.
but how are you supposed to know which ones are or aren't
>337959050
don't put your tutorial on the load screen if you want people to notice it
>>337959618
It's not just about the loading screen. It's about everything during the Iron Giant section. Can't people at least try to see what, I dunno, trying to do different button combinations does? There were many who had no idea how to begin aerial combat because the game didn't tell them.
>>337959618
>>337960182
*said aerial combat didn't exist in the demo
>>337959618
>but how are you supposed to know which ones are or aren't
This is my take on this, Noctis, despite can dodge things (the blue shadow thing), have a limited range where he can maneuver like that. He can easily dodge sword swings but fails to dodge something huge coming at him like when the Iron Giant slamming his fist on the floor or the tail swip of the behemoth.
Combat in this game is great when you get the hang of it, Air combat is instantly deeper than KH2FM. KH2 you had no control of where sora went and you just spammed X doing the same combo while juggling the enemy till you were done.
In XV however you use the direction stick while in Air to flip and dodge. You can also swap weapons which also will make a bigger difference in the final game, In my Webm I am quickly reading the IGs moves and swapping to Fire then tapping Triangle for a cheaper quicker warp away then swapping back to my sword after he is done attacking to trade.
That half-frozen behemoth was pretty cool.
>>337935108
Looks shit.
>>337960182
>>337960331
> Can't people at least try to see what, I dunno, trying to do different button combinations does?
yes, almost everyone naturally does this. xv does a poor job of making this process intuitive/giving feedback, which is why a lot of people didn't get very far with it. the dodging is one example of this. it's hard to tell how it works without extensive experimentation where it's actually a pretty simple system, just poorly signified.
I don't get GAF's complaintx about control feedback response when most of the unresponsiveness with the combat comes from bad framerate/pacong.
>>337935108
>magic is consumable items
>weightless button mashing on slow enemies that don't react to being hit
>>337935647
It's the debug test area that Gameinformer also played around in, just using that small duscae section.
>>337958473
I don't even know what are you trying to imply with that generic crap.
>>337936154
Only 4 mainline FF are turn based, kill yourself the entire point of FF is change.
>>337966586
Hi XV-kun.
>>337936807
Press l1 to lock on then tap circle to cast it will instant cast.
>>337937335
>>337946897
No it's like magic charges in FF1
>>337939865
P5 looks like ass with a dvd menu passed off as combat.
>>337939865
Honestly this, I'm sure KH fans will be happy to get two games from SE this generation but for JRPG fans Persona 5 looks like the better pick.
>>337943527
Dodge roll has no iframes so you need proper timing to evade with dodge rolls. Using the backflip on airstep sword gives you some iframes though. You can also use shield to get perfect blocks with correct timing and topple enemies with it.
>>337967547
I'm a jrpg fan, that's why I don't like shit games like Persona. It has absolute rubbish combat, the story sucks more than usual for a jrpg and you spend 50 hours reading social link shit you don't care about.
>>337967732
>I'm a jrpg fan, that's why I don't like shit games like Persona
What?
It's literally looking like one of the top JRPGs this gen what about DQXI? New Star Ocean?
When are we getting a main line Crystal Chronicles game? What I wouldn't do to see CC's world better explored.
>>337967845
>What?
I just told you why I don't like shitty Persona games. They are bad games.
>DQXI
Don't know anything about this yet. Hope it is good.
>Star Ocean
Garbage
>>337967547
P5 looks like trash.
>>337967732
At least we can look forward to 7 Remake, right?
R-right..?
Guys?
>>337967732
This guy knows whats up
>>337965706
Magic is in charges like in FF1 and ring magic is a separate thing from that. The enemies do all react.
>>337966586
That's just a myth spread by people, each one was supposed to be on such a scale it was their last game ever, it didn't mean that they were free to change it all at will.
>>337968554
It's polite to say hello back, XV-kun.
>>337968481
>episodic compilation retcon shit
No
>>337966465
Does this look generic to you? I can't find a single town in any video game that looks like tihs.
That gameplay looked better than usual. Is that PC gameplay or did they really improve the graphics?
>>337968595
No it isn't, Sakaguchi flat out stated it.
>>337968481
FFXV will be better than VII ever was
>>337968791
This looks like Duscae but tweaked.
>different post-processing
>full on weather system
>full procedural cloud generation
We saw Duscae on the PS4, and this looks similar. This is likely PS4.
>>337935108
How am i supposed to enjoy dressing up my characters if there's not a single girl party member???
0/10
>>337966465
>waaah where muh fantasy locations!?
>Here's a medieval fantasty kingdom with floating castles overgrown with nature and with giant swords impaled around the kingdom.
>g-generic?!?
>>337968791
>pc gameplay
>>337968891
Don't reply to me until you get some manners, XV-kun.
>>337960901
The combat is legitimately pretty solid and has some interesting tech going on, and I'm sure we'll get a lot of videos immediately following the game's release demonstrating even more of that. It's just that PD kind of sucks as a demo, it's very obviously a quickly thrown together affair made of tech demo components and it tells the player effectively nothing of any substance about how combat actually works.
Having only the Iron Giant to fight doesn't help matters either. I don't get why they couldn't have added more of those modifier buttons and have them spawn different mobs.
>>337935647
You're right, these attack animations are so scripted, unlike every other jRPG where you get one single attack animation no matter what you do. What a shitheap of a game fuckin trash fire.
>>337968791
It looked smoother, FPS looked more stable.
>>337969096
We already know it's coming to PC silly
>>337969124
Why are you calling everyone in this thread XV-kun?
>>337937931
What the fuck
>>337969363
Because it's obviously XV-kun?????
>>337969427
You've called multiple people XV-kun now
>>337935108
That didn't look terribly different than what's possible in the demo besides the daggers and magic.
>>337935108
>http://assets4.ign.com/videos/zencoder/2016/05/16/1920/633055cc13a7a42dde236a5a78d63c0b-5000000-1463456674-w.mp4
That actually looks very good, like someone said the animations are very smooth. The framrate needs to be solid, and then it's all good.
Hopefully the Neo is real so we'll get this game running at an acceptable frame rate. Video shows improvement though.
>>337950709
Osaka Team didn't work on KH2.
>>337969534
If by "multiple people" you mean "XV-kun."
>>337969592
Neo is real, do people still think Neo isn't real?
>>337969736
So now you're saying XV-kun is multiple people?
>>337950709
Do people not remember how night and day start game KH2 was to end game KH2FM?
>>337968595
>it didn't mean that they were free to change it all at will.
That's egostistic coming out of you. The series are theirs and not yours. They are free to do what they want with it.
>>337969375HOY
>>337937193
Funny thing is, IGN just acquired Gametrailers and all of its assets today.
>>337969856
I'm saying XV-kun is XV-kun and I've been calling XV-kun XV-kun.
>>337937193
GT guys formed a new thing called EZA easy allies.
>>337970242
It's a boogeyman meme, just stop.
>>337970242
I'M XV-KUN
>>337968749
Well, apart for being generic, that also looks like shit. All that talk about the power of the new engine, and this is what we get? Man.
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
>float forever
>dashing attack
>dashing attack
This looks fucking horrendous.
>>337970134
You don't understand game development do you?
All games are developed on PC and then made for the consoles to run on.
As you can see he has a PS4 controller connected to the PC to test the PS4 controls.
It's not coming to PC for a very long time.
>>337970034
Got any of themrare hoys?
>>337970693
Here's your (You).
>>337935108
I so badly wanted this game to blow my mind, but with both demos being underwhelming and this magic system I think I have to resign myself.
I pray that the world and the plot and the characters are enough to redeem the entire experience. To be fair, everything we've seen of this has been pretty neat. And that's the main appeal of Final Fantasy so there may be hope.
Still would've preferred if they just copypasted Kingdom Hearts gameplay like Nomura wanted to.
>>337969732
I'm gonna assume that >>337950709 meant Tokyo team, since they did both KH2 and XV and Osaka had nothing to do with either.
And the answer I think is Tabata not having a clear and distinct vision of what the combat should be. It feels like he's keeping the combat in because he has to when he'd really just like to make a movie about four buddies on a road trip. The fact that the core mechanics completely changed every six months since Tabata took over seems like proof of that.
>>337970745
You an idiot of somekind? All warp based movement consumes MP, you didn't even list any criticisms, just another shitpost.
>>337970693
I'd like to play these generic games that you speak of.
>>337937193
gematsu is pretty based
>>337971190
But that's wrong and the core mechanics haven't changed at all.
>>337971348
Yea, I use Gematsu, Siliconera, and IGN.
>>337971206
Are you blind? Every fucking tech demo has been "warp ninja".
Anyone who can see that faggot they call the main character begin to float forever by "warp dashing" continuously and not think this game looks like shit, has shit taste.
>"what does this weapon do?"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
>"how about this one?"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
>"these all feel so unique"
>warp dash and slam into enemy
It's shit.
>>337969983
KH2 still felt crisp and responsive at the very beginning. The problem with XV is how floaty and disjointed everything feels. It doesn't feel like each button press corresponds 1-to-1 to an action on screen. Instead when you press a button it puts you in an automated stance until you do something different.
>>337971190
I dunno, I really enjoyed Platinum Demo after all the mechanics were figured out by people.
>>337971354
Is that why Platinum Demo plays completely differently from ED?
>>337971208
Good for you, mate. Here, have a lollipop.
>Shows dagger, sword, greatsword, shurikens and magic
>Only shows the spear once at the end
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOW ME MORE DRAGOON STUFF YOU SLANT EYED GOOKS
>>337971585
Can you explain what you mean by 1-to-1? I Kingdom Hearts, I can press a button 9 times but Sora will still perform 3 strikes.
It doesn't correspond to 1 action on screen.
>>337971769
So you've no answer. If you're gonna shipost, at least do it well.
Saw Coerll get lit on fire it looked like he instant targeted that.
>>337970142
Your retarded gt are easy allies now on patreon
How many weapon skills do you think will be in the game? I'm hoping at least five skills for each weapon type, any less than that and we're looking at ridiculously repetitive combat even with weapon switching.
>>337937193
Gt really didnt leave for more than a month, they are called easy allies now, they do it part time though so sacrifices are to be made such as countdown and trailer score
>>337971578
Oh it's you again, that one faggot seriously triggered over the fact that you can warp and do aerial combat, kill yourself.
>trying to milk a already dead saga with k-pop style characters and flashy graphics
>people have been waiting 10 years for this
>>337971578
But warp spam with the greatsword class is really shit though, you can't spam tempest and charge slash in mid air.
You'd have a point if you were only talking about swords and shuriken.
>>337971737
That was based on feedback though.
>>337971585
Crush, vanquish and aerial all feel 1:1, only ravage doesn't.
>>337971578
I mean, Warping and managing MP is the main balance to the combat. It's actually pretty fun to do, since you can't spam the most powerful moves.
>>337972373
You're fucking delusional.
This shit looks like DMC, not FF. It's utter trash.
>>337972574
>not FF
Good, I don't need to play Final Fantasy 1 fifteen times.
>>337972574
I could care what it looks like as long as it's a good game. Seriously.
They could call the next Dark Souls an Assassins Creed game but I'd buy it because it would still play well. Why do you care so much about the name?
>>337971737
You do realize ED purposely left out a ton of features like aerial combat, weapon switching, magic etc, right? The core system itself didn't change.
>>337971884
That's because you're mashing the button while Sora's already in the middle of an action. Each action Sora takes (attacking, spells, items, dodging, guarding, whatever) is tied directly to a single button press that happens immediately as soon as you press the button, unless you're already committed to another action, in which case it'll usually buffer it and execute it as soon as your current action ends. If you're just mashing the attack button than Sora will attack nonstop until his combo ends, but you can also just do one press per attack/spell/whatever.
>>337972859
But can't you do the same in XV? You can keep mashing/holding attack but then press defend as soon as an enemy attacks. I don't get the issue.
>>337972845
>The core system itself didn't change.
But that's wrong, the way you perform attacks did change, instead of using the ED system you now have access to a single weapon's entire moveset, instead of only having part of it like in ED.
Weapon skills are also more like an action game now, instead of scrolling through a menu and choosing the skill, each skill is tied to a specific weapon and button input.
It's not much, but they clearly changed the system.
>>337935108
i can't wait for this game but that wasn't anything special
It looks alright but it still looks like a downgrade from duscae/early footage.
The camera was much more closer to the MC in earlier footage and made the game much more personal.
The camera in all the new footage is always like 5 feet away from the character and it looks shit.
I'm still buying this game day one though
>>337935108
What is this shit? This isn't high leveled at all. Most of this is in the tech demo
>>337943527
You can just hold down the button and he'll dodge when it needs to happen as long as you're not doing any other action. Some attacks can't be dodged.
>>337972476
Show me kpop characters that look like Gladio, Cor, Regis, Ignis, Ardyn, Cid, Iedolas, Verstael, Glauca etc, or better yet tell me how Cloud, Squall, Vincent, Sephiroth, Tidus, Reno, Zidane, Vaan, Bartz, Locke etc aren't kpop.
>>337973308
The camera is only like that during combat.
>all these people talking about gameplay when it's all about the bro banter
I wasn't looking forward to it as much, but then I played ED and saw that all the guys are snarky cunts who constantly shit on each other, then I got hype.
>>337972545
Don't bother with that faggot, he's a notorious samefagging autist in these threads.
>>337935108
holy shit this game looks worse and worse as development progresses, there are literally no shadows what so ever being rendered past 10 meters away from the characters, and all this just to make those shitty particles more prominent? also the characters all move with too much fucking weight to their animations, implying that controlling them will be fucking tedious and annoying instead of responsive, this sucks big monkey balls.
>>337972574
Here's your (You).
>>337972845
The basic button layout changed.
The Crush/Vanquish/Ravage mechanic was completely dropped in favor of traditional weapon switching.
The weapon skills from ED are completely different, if they're still there at all.
Armiger was given its own meter instead of being tied to MP.
Even ED to ED2.0 changed things like how lock-on works and how dodging is handled.
And those are just the changes between the public demos. You're delusional if you think the gameplay's been completely consistent since E3 2013.
>>337973632
>all move with too much fucking weight to their animations
Really? I've seen some people complain it looks floaty and weightless.
I played the Plat demo and it didn't feel tedious to me, barring the ridiculously low I-frames on the dodge roll which basically forces you to hold square to defend, which I hate.
>>337973540
I hope so
>>337973712
>if they're still there at all.
Weapon skills are tied to weapons and specific button inputs now, and seem to be really spammable, you can tear the Iron Giant in the plat demo a new asshole in thirty seconds with broadsword tempest spam.
>>337973308
I am Cuban and I cannot begin to describe how happy I am it got represented in Lestallum. It is almost enough to make up for the fact that Cuba is, in fact, one of the crappiest places on Earth.
>>337973860
It was like that in duscae
>>337972684
>>337972813
>it doesn't matter what the game is called, as long as its good
>themes and aesthetics don't matter, it's all about the gameplay
And that gameplay looks like hot garbage.
>>337974430
>themes and aesthetics don't matter, it's all about the gameplay
Who are you quoting?
>>337974012
They certianly made it look very good with a distinct visual style.
>>337973175
No in ED it used the crush, ravage, vanquish, counter and descent system which is still there for every weapon, the only difference was in ED you set a weapon for each part while in PD each weapon you manually switch to has their own crush, ravage, vanquish counter and descend attacks, that's simply a result of manual weapon switching but the core underlying system is there, weapon skills are on directional inputs now and there was some of those in ED, now you choose party commands from a menu so you can make Gladio do tempest the same way you would have in ED when doing it for Noctis, while doing Tempest now on Noctis flows better because it's directional input based now and can seamlessly blend into part of a combo instead of being a separate attack. The core is the crv system which is still there.
>>337973551
FF fanbase are really triggered when people say their series have terrible gameplay. And I agree with that. What it lacks in gameplay, it redeemed itself with having a good story, great setting, a great cast with proper character growth, plot twist, a good relatable over-the top villain, and a whole lot more.
>>337973308
It's a debug room test area not an actual game area. They just use basic things so they can test and debug things in a field.
Persona 5 probably cost about half of this, and looks infinitely better
>>337974819
Too bad P5 is weebshit for waifu fags.
>>337974012
My condolences, but at least you have some beautiful scenery
>>337973632
What part of debug room test area don't people get?
>>337974819
Persona 5 is also taking literally zero risks and is likely going to be Persona 4:Let's Do It Again
Final Fantasy has had more than thirty fucking games at this point, they need to do something new and different or they're just going to die out, Persona is relatively fresh as most people haven't even played 1 and 2. Persona isn't at the point where it has to take huge risks to be successful.
>>337974896
Not really. Only some beaches are nice, but the rest is pure crap. At least I don't live there anymore, so that's something good I guess.
>>337975132
>Persona 5 is also taking literally zero risks and is likely going to be Persona 4:Let's Do It Aga
Nigga we know fuck all about it, but it seems to have changed shit up a lot as far as gameplay goes
>>337974517
>I don't know how greentext works
fuck off, newfag
>>337974819
No it doesn't. FFXIII look better than P5 and have better animation than it did. P5 is literally a PS3 port you mong. Just because it has flashy and striking colours, doesn't mean it looked better.
>>337975273
At its core, though, it seems to function essentially the same. It is not like they have done anything GROUND BREAKING with it so far like, for instance, letting me fall in love with my husbando : (
>>337971998
Answer what? You say you like shitty games like XV, I said that that's fine with me.
>>337973757
They already confirmed you can remap button layout during an ATR over a year ago.
Crush, Ravage, Vanquish is still there and manual weapon switching was always planned, it was purposely left out of ED just like magic, aerial combat, party commands, equipment etc, they flat out stated over 50% of the battle system was left out of ED.
Weapons skills are directional inputs now and work seamless with combo instead of separate menu command, while party commands do what the weapon did before but on party members.
They already said during the ATR last year that Armiger wouldhave it's own Guage in the full game and howit was in ED wasn't how it actually worked.
ED2 swapped out warp dodge for dodge roll which is something you'll be able to do with the full game anyway since they confirmed dodge roll warp dodge are part of the leveling upgrade system.
>>337974895
Unlike FFXV which is weebshit for yaoi fangirls.
>>337975708
Your post was about generic areas.
I posted a non-generic area, and then your retort was that's generic.
You're an idiot.
>>337974002
It still uses MP.
Where's FFXV-kun?
>>337975886
Why the hell are the combos still not 1:1 reaponsive even after feedback then?
>>337974819
No it looks worse in every aspect.
>Persona 5 vs FFXV shitposting
Why? If you want to talk about P5 just go make a thread for it.
>>337976062
What do you mean by that? Combos are 1:1. Different directional inputs perform different combos.
>>337935596
>Smooth
>Stuttering frame rates
Lol
>>337975430
It looks better in the sense that it will be an infinitely better game.
Throw all the money you want at a project, but if it plays like dick, it doesn't matter how nice it looks.
But yes, the art style and presentation in P5 looks a million times better than the grafix of XV.
>>337976364
muh frame rates
>>337975928
You know he's going to reply with “No, it looked generic, you have shit taste”. Just let him dwell in his own world.
>>337976062
Crush is, vanquish is, aerial combo is plus individual descend are, only ravage isn't 1:1.
>>337976443
No it doesn't, P5 looks like complete shit.
>>337975923
Thing is, FF doesn't look like a ps3 port with shitty color effects.
>>337935108
We waited 10 years for this crap? Color me unimpressed. I just hope they don't fuck up the FF7 remake this badly, but knowing Square Enix it's already dead on arrival.
>>337976443
>>337976648
>It looks really good, this other game a shitty poo poo
No ur game a poo poo
Wow guys riveting discussion going on here.
>>337976708
It actually kinda does.
Game looks worse after every new release. KH had smoother gameplay
>>337976725
Here's your (You).
>>337967971
Crystal Bearers killed the franchise. As much as we hope for a new FFCC game, it just ain't gonna happen senpai
>>337976847
No it doesn't, why spout blatant lies?
>>337976989
Duscae looked way better than Platinum
Defend this. Please someone defend this.
>B-but, it makes sense within the confines of the story!
If the story bottlenecks the entire main playable cast into looking like a bunch of faggy boyband rejects from the early 2000's then I'm afraid the story itself needs to be changed. That doesn't excuse it, and it probably wasn't any good to begin with.
>>337976443
You really think it'll play any different than P3/P4? Just adding 2 more elements and a gun doesn't change much. Plot progress will always be terrible in any Persona game. Story is VN-tier writing. MC is literally for self-insert. Characters are literal anime troupes. There's nothing fresh from it. Literally the COD of JRPGs.
>>337977218
>using FFX and FFXIII as reference for good characters
whats it like being 1000% retarded?
>>337977218
Why does it need defending?
>>337935108
I'm looking forward to this game but seeing that area over and over again is tiring.
>>337977281
>Literally the COD of JRPGs
>CoD is yearly
>P5 after over eight years since the last entry
weww
>>337976443
Personally, a big part of why I'm looking forward to FFXV is because it has more potential to surprise. I already know the song and dance I am gonna get with Persona 5; I already played Persona 3 and Persona 4.
That's not to say P5 won't do things unique to this entry, but those are tweaks more than anything. I personally can't point to any game like FFXV that has ever released. It could very well be shit, but it already has so much to look forward to.
>>337977604
FF Has a bunch of side games and 2 mmos, but actual big budget main line title hasn't been released since 2009 XIII was def triple A
>>337977721
There's three fucking XIII games
>>337977218
Here's your (You).
>>337977628
>I personally can't point to any game like FFXV that has ever released.
Try Kingdom Hearts, but that game didn't force you to only use Sora.
>>337978041
There's much more to FFXV than just its combat. And really, I see FFXV matching up with KH2 by the end.
>>337977218
>4 Bros go on a bro journey to avenge their Bros dad
Seems pretty brotier imo. Do you not have Bros irl anon?
>>337977604
Doesn't change the fact that it rehashes everything from it's previous titles. But sure, you fucks ever give a damn is about self-inserting as the MC and imagining fucking the “best girl” in the series.
>>337977870
Yeah XIII-2 and LR both recycle everything heavily and have only 2 cgi scenes. Budgets of these games are literally less than a 3rd of the XIII might have been, and they are sequels of a mainline, not an actual mainline.
>>337977218
Clusterfuck circus of autism and shit design vs actually well designed characters who fit their setting.
XV cast are without a doubt the best designed FF characters, only good FF7 designs are the side characters like Shinra.
>>337978189
You're right. The FF games are all about its brilliant narrative and never have any distracting females.
>>337935108
they over complicated the combat and the result is shit. they should kept it simple and fun like Dragon's Dogma
>>337976725
>actiony gameplay
>episodic
>story and character changes, most likely compilation retcon faggotry
It's going to be shit. This was their chance to fix everything wrong with FF7 but of course they're not going to do it, they're just going to add even more pointless bullshit that will only detract from the quality of the original. Not like it matters though, since it's guaranteed to do well thanks to insane hype and marketing, casuals who are attracted to anything flashy and shiny, and fanboys who just can't let go of their nostalgia. Now this might sound like I'm overreacting, but just look at Square Enix's track record over the last decade, especially the way they handled FF7's story and characters, and try to tell me that the remake will be any different.
>>337976443
No it doesn't at all. Everything we've seen for XV shits all over that hot trash Persona.
>>337977146
No it didn't.
>>337978041
There is nothing in gaming that is like FFXV.
>>337978436
>can only control the main fuckboy
>magic sucks
>gameplay focuses on action, but can't stay above 15fps
>pre-rendered shit in promotional material to hide the blurry shit graphics
But hey, at least the girl mechanic has nice tits
>>337978286
>everything has to be dull, black (because that's still cool among edgelord tryhards) and boring to be "well designed"
Yeah honestly, who would want unique and varied designs in a FANTASY game?
>>337976234
I'm referring to the ravage input like here:>>337976532
Especially given that it makes up the majority of ground combos, thats a big ass fucking problem.
Hell what is the advantage of tapping compared to holding circle for attacking?
>>337978041
You only use Sora in KH1.
>>337978610
>can only control the main fuckboy
But it was totally fine when P3 did it, right?
>>337978523
>I believe this project will be the realization of a vision we have pursued for a long time.
An open world next gen FF RPG, with realistic settings and characters infused with action combat and recurring FF Themes and Yoko Shimomura as composer. Anyone who thinks the game is shit can fuck off. This is genius, and has yet to ever be executed.
>>337978856
FF went to shit ever since they started focusing on realism.
At least we have Yoko Shimomura as a composer.
>>337978757
Glad to know Nomura's taking lessons from a decade-old game
>>337978325
You're starting to run out of things to say aren't you? And yes, FF have better narrative than an otaku-pandering VN-tier story that can easily be mistaken for a cheap anime game. Even Hyouka is more interesting than P4. And no, despite having females as your party member, FF’s doesn't have the “dating mechanic” that you Persona-fags only really care about.
>>337979021
12 did it pretty well
13 did it pretty bad
What's your point ?
>>337978658
There isn't any, so I don't see what the problem is?
Like, if you tap in KH, you'll get the same combo over and over again. If you tap in XV, you will also get the same combo over and over again. The difference is that each strike in Ravage flows to the next, but what difference does it actually make in functionality?
>>337978757
>mechanic is bad in persona
>they fix it in the next game
>mechanic is good in final fantasy
>they remove it or ruin it in the next game
>>337979070
There's plenty to shit on FF for, trust me. It's a lot funnier for you to pass along judgement by assuming you know the reasons every person plays the games in the first place.
Even if the games were nothing but dating sims, they'd be a hell of a lot more engaging than 'local faggot saves world, kills god'
FF used to be the gold standard, and those days are long gone. This new one looks to be a cluttered mess of broken promises and a decade of misinformation.
>>337979036
That's Tabata actually, director of classics (lol) like Crisis Core.
>>337979070
>FF have better narrative than an otaku-pandering VN-tier story that can easily be mistaken for a cheap anime game.
Yeah I especially love the way the games focus on some whiny androgynous faggot surrounded by people who always love him and think he's so cool and together they discover the true meaning of friendship. Totally not animu at all.
>>337979281
Having one playable character isn't inherently a bad thing. With the story and type of character Noctis is, it makes other characters pointless to play as. Noctis can do everything they can do.
>>337979318
>FF used to be the gold standard
Nah it really wasn't. Even back during the SNES days it prioritized story and melodrama over good gameplay. If anything Dragon Quest should be the gold standard.
>>337979603
DQ was too grindy for most people. Only the nips liked it, and that's why they're all fucking salarymen
>>337978610
Noctis alone can do more than entire parties of every single other FF and has more depth and input to his combat than any other mainline FF, and you can also input menu commands for your other party members where they have their own ATB bar too, magic works fine with extreme quality in its use from targeting specific enemies to igniting sections of the terrain to inflict fire damage by burning down shacks or grass, to freezing over lakes and completely freezing enemies, to using rain to conduct electricity, to breaking mechs spilling their oil everywhere then using fire to create massive explosions, you have instant targeting with L1+O, also there is a magic synthesis system and ring magic which is entirely separate from that.
Gameplay is 30FPS, recent footage confirms.
There hasn't been any prerendered promo materials passed of as gameplay, nice lies.
Good job showing everyone how retarded you are.
>>337979706
It has a more consistent quality than FF overall, hence why. It may not have reached FF's highs, but it certainly never reached FF's lows either.
>>337979754
>Gameplay is 30FPS, recent footage confirms.
That's not really something to be proud of.
>>337938697
A new generation of FF fans was born with FF XIII and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
FFXV is shaping up to be a masterpiece, every new title they bring something new to the table based on the hardware capabilities. If it comes to PC it will be glorious, they have surely taken their time and I seriously doubt this game will turn out to be a disappointment. Day 1 buy to save FF.
>>337978628
You must be blind or something.
>wearing expensive well designed designer suits is edgy because it's black?!
Holy fuck just kill yourself already.
>>337935108
I just wish spells weren't so fucking clunky.
>>337978658
Manual vanquish is given via tapping.
>>337979818
The MMO one was pretty bad. The spinoffs are mostly forgettable, too.
Still better than FF as a whole, though.
>>337979754
Jesus, this is gamefaqs-tier shilling
>magic is still a consumable grenade
hype lost
>>337980090
If you consider shit like pic related to also be "well designed" then sure.
>>337979281
>comparing a fucking dvd menu tier combat to a real time action RPG
Retard
>>337980090
Forget the fact that they all look like some korean soap actors, but who the shit is coming up with these retarded names?
>>337980503
You're really reaching now.
>>337980237
>Jesus, this is gamefaqs-tier shilling
Nah, it's just XV-kun being himself.
>>337980357
It's like FF1 magic.
>>337980614
I agree. Nomura should be fired for what he's doing to this game and the FF7 remake
>>337980237
Jesus this denial to facts.
>>337980698
Final Fantasy always had retarded names, especially those based on weather patterns.
>>337980503
Notice how that looks nothing like anyone in XV? I know you have autism and all but at least try.
>>337980503
Is that Ricky Gervais in the 80s?
>>337980701
Yeah sorry, just try to imagine them wearing all black then it's perfect.
>>337979403
>Yeah I especially love the way the games focus on some whiny androgynous faggot surrounded by people who always love him and think he's so cool and together they discover the true meaning of friendship
You just wrote a summary of P4 there. Try grinding some dungeons to level up your shitposting skills.
>>337980698
>Cloud
>Squall
>Lightning
So what will these faggots do after this sells 2 million copies, but sucks dick just like the last six FF games?
Will they begrudgingly keep buying the inevitable spinoffs that also suck dick?
>>337981083
And Final Fantasy too. I guess they're both cheap anime games.
>>337981206
FFXI was good
>>337980984
>Notice how that looks nothing like anyone in XV?
That's because they aren't wearing all black.
>>337981206
Of course.
>>337979242
What i don't get is how people rave about KH2 being more 1:1 when it takes 3-4 presses when doing a basic combo to initate just one strike in my impressiom.
>>337980698
Show me these "Korean soap" actors that look like Gladio, Cor, Regis, Ignis, Prompto, Noctis, Iedolas, Cid, Cidney, Aranea, Verstael, Glauca, Luna, Gentiana, Ardyn etc.
You must be new to FF.
>>337980996
No it's the main cast of FFXV.
>>337981017
Yes it is, magic in FF1 was consumable and had charges just like XV does.
>press square to watch cutscene
super duper.
We're never getting another new Final Fantasy game until all these guys are fired/retired or it's bought by another company. FF is destined to be what Star Wars was under George Lucas, 30 years of everyone hating their product till finally somebody makes an actual FF and then people will be cheering at the departure of the people who butchered it for so long. It's obvious the FF devs don't want to make FF, so why don't they call it something else? It seems like Bravely Default has inherited FF's legacy, while the main series has mutated to become something else entirely.
>>337980503
One of them needs to look like a gay porn star with tattoos and a mullet then it's perfect.
>>337981054
But those are still nothing alike. You must have hit your head really hard.
>>337981694
But they do look alike. You must have hit your head really hard.
>>337981215
You're still underleveled. Grind some more dungeons or max some s-links.
>>337981328
No because they look nothing like anything in XV, the clothes are completely different, the style is completely different, they look nothing alike you autist, I bet you think Nascar drivers look like astronauts because they both wear helmets.
>>337981652
>It's obvious the FF devs don't want to make FF
[citation needed]
>XIII
>shit
>XIII-2
>shit
>LR
>better. still shit though
>XIV
>shit
>ARR
>shit
>Havonswerd
>shit
>XV
>shit
I see a pattern here.
>>337981961
what is it
>>337981457
Proof? They look nothing alike.
>>337981880
Nah I'll be fine driving around an empty open world and watching cutscenes.
>>337982042
Final Fantasy has been shit since XIII
>>337981652
Fuck off Yoshidadrone.
>high level gameplay
>nothing but moving around a stupid AoE circle
>>337982140
You kid, but this alone makes me more excited than P5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdjHkeRppZ0
>>337981928
They have the same style pants, undershirt, shoes and hairdo. The only thing that's different are the vests. You can keep living in denial all you want XV-kun but you're only fooling yourself.
>>337982170
XII was shit as well. They tried giving it a fast forward button to skip the shitty combat and running through boring areas but it didn't help much
>>337981794
Proof? Even looking at their individual items of clothing nothing is the same as XV, neither are the hair styles or anything.
>>337981589
And how is it a good thing that they're using that shit system?
>>337982319
>one of the best games in the entire library
>shit
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnahhhh
>>337982267
>You kid
Me kid?
>but this alone makes me more excited than P5.
Yeah that's some nice scenery, but that doesn't mean much if the rest of the game sucks.
>>337982304
They have completely different pants, shoes, shirts, hair, coats. Why lie? Just why? You're not being clever, you're not being funny; why lie?
>>337982464
>pseudo-MMO with awful levelling system
>one of the best games in the entire library
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnahhhh
>>337982464
I'll just ask what makes it good? I honestly can't find any redeeming qualities. Recently finished IZJS
>>337982140
Don't worry, your dungeons are pretty empty too famalam. But there are neon/striking colours for you to enjoy.
>>337982376
So you are casual as fuck.
>>337982608
They look the exact same aside from the vests and colors. Why lie? Just why? You're not being clever, you're not being funny; why lie?
>>337982215
goty
>>337982651
It's less popular thus has more special snowflake appeal.
>>337982512
The rest of the game really won't suck, it'll be mediocre at its worst with its foundation. The combat has potential to be great, but even if it's not it can be good.
>>337935108
>nothing but Duscae for the entire video
ugh..
>>337982910
>even if the game sucks I won't admit it
we already knew that
>>337982645
>pseudo-MMO
>it's single player
This is how I know you're wrong.
>>337982651
Good voice acting, god tier waifus and animation, good level design, good monster / NPC design, good art style, okay music, okay story if you remember to hop over the plot holes, good and flexible combat system, good job system, no hallways, can play the entire cast, zodiac replay-ability. I can go on.
>implying a non-shit turn based combat system exists
Prove me wrong, you fags
>>337982964
That's just a test/debug area, that's why the progress report footage and GI's stuff was in the same location too.
>>337946113
I get the feeling that Kingdom hearts combat system is usually one step away from being really good and solid but they always fuck it up somehow due to one or two changes to the gameplay. Why dont they just take kingdom hearts 2 gameplay and perfect it and not add the flowmotion bullshit that ruined DDD.
>>337983036
That's why it's pseudo-MMO you fucking retard
It's shit combat like in MMOs only it's singleplayer
>>337983154
source?
>>337983247
Say it with me.
Massively. MULTI-PLAYER. ONLINE.
How does this apply at all to Final Fantasy XII? Because it borrowed one or two small elements from XI?
>>337983015
No really, if the foundation is Duscae, which by itself is not bad, then it probably won't suck.
>>337983509
>The prefix pseudo is used to mark something that superficially appears to be (or behaves like) one thing, but actually is another.
>>337983362
It was brought up somewhere in a GI podcast. It's like 2 hours long so I don't remember exactly when they mentioned it though.
>>337983362
just XV-kun making shit up
>>337983654
There's nothing pseudo-Massively Multiplayer about it. It's also not pseudo-online.
How about you come up with a real reason why you dislike it instead of parroting retarded /v/ memes.
>>337983928
Fuck off idiot, I don't lie about this game.
>>337935108
Looks meh, as long as the story is good, it could be a decent 8/10. There hasn't been a good game about bros in a long fucking time
>>337983928
>>337983362
No actually, it is the debug area. It was said by Game Informer themselves in their 2 hour podcast.
It's been the debug area for a long time now.
>>337968749
Veo Lu Sluice and it's neighboring town, faggot.
>>337984035
I like you expectation, all they keep doing in all the media they've ever released is make it seem like a light hearted story with some war elements, literally the first 10 hours of a 50 hours long journey. Shit is going to get dark and go down very quickly and surprise many of you mark my words.
>>337983928
Fuck off nigger, I'm not him. You can easily tell XV-kun's posts from other anons by how much he repeats himself and calls people retarded.
>>337982746
From left to right
Guy 1 is wearing silk bomber jacket, fitted track suit pants with stripe down the side, sneakers. Short combed over hair.
Guy 2 is wearing full sleeve leather jacket, plain undershirt, fitted tracksuit pants with stripe down the side, sneakers. Short combed backward hair.
Guy 3 is wearing full sleeve leather jacket, fitted skinny jeans and silver dress shoes. Short bleached blonde flat sideswept fringe hair.
Guy 4 is wearing full sleeve leather jacket half white half black, scarf, grey undershirt, white skinny jeans and dress shoes. Short parted comb over hair.
In comparison what XV guys are wearing is nothing alike.
Noctis wearing short sleeved military coat, military cropped cargoes, military combat boots, arm guard, printed T. The official website confirms this. Hair is medium length hair with flat uneven spiked bangs at the front and spiked upward and outward at the back.
Gladio is wearing short sleeved leather coat, pants, belt, wrist guard and heavy duty shoes. Hair is slick back mullet and shaved on the sides, has short beard stubble.
Prompto is wearing biker vest, red long flannel vest, printed singlet, white belt, bandanna on his arm, gun gloves, brown printed pants, boots with white cuff. Has blonde spiked up bang and long fringe while short at the back.
Ignis is wearing a blazer, button up shirt, belt, driving gloves, glasses, jeans and snake skin shoes. Hair is swept back and stands upright and tall on the bangs.
Cor is wearing a formal military general coat, suit pants, boots with high cuff, beret, layered undershirt. Has buzzcut and chinstrap beard.
They are nothing alike you retard. Now here comes the denial and you spouting "hurr autism xD!?" even though you were proven wrong.
>>337983362
GI mentioned it during their coverage.
>>337983928
Fucking retard fuck off with that boogeyman meme already.
>>337985558
If you can match Noctis with any of the guys then it's legit, since Noctis is the only one that matters to squarenix.
>>337985865
He doesn't match with any of them. I literally just listed what they are all wearing.
>>337985558
i agree with you but this post IS autistic
>>337968749
Looks extremely similar to FFIX's Alexandria.
>>337986094
idk
Looks pretty similar to me.
So, do you think Noct's wedding will be called off and you'll get the option of romancing a selection of characters including your party members?
>>337986247
No it doesn't.
>>337986763
Does too.
>>337986710
Noctis and Luna are romantically involved despite their wedding being political. Though grills like Aranea want Noctis D.
>>337986808
It doesn't, completely different items of clothing and looks.
>>337987086
I donno,Looks pretty similar to me.
>hype as fuck, over-the-top, combat
>giant open world with mystical creatures and fantastical landscapes
>go on a BROad trips with your pals and go camping ans shit
>chocobo drifting
>epic story about a conflict between nations like Final Fantasy should have
>Noctis is actually a pretty chill dude and not an edgelord based off the anime
>Trailers show off epic setpieces. Like uncharted but with fantasy stuff
>mechanic waifu
What doesn't this game have? if it lives up to the hype even a little it will be GOTY. What competition does it have? Uncharted and DS3 were great, but more of the same
>>337986981
I hope it was all a ruse or something. Having a forced romance path always takes me out of FFs. Like I can deal with it, but it's such a slog when they do that. Like damn, make it a bit shallower and give us a few choices. Let me romance Freya or Lulu or Quistis. All the best characters never have romance shit in FF games.
>>337987557
>What doesn't this game have?
Good gameplay and final fantasy style. Uncharted looks better.
>>337936154
>Garbage. Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period. No. Debate.
>Trying new things never meant being a new genre entirely, and that's what Square has forced on its fans for 15 years.
Uh, didn't Square break that rule long ago in 2003 with FF11?
>It all boils down to Toriyama Kitase Nomura and Tabata want their own style of game, before ever giving their core fanbase what they want instead,
Welcome to Final Fantasy idiot. Where developers give a different experience of an RPG every single time.
Plus Toriyama and Kitase have both made turn based combat games. FF6, FF7, FF8 for Kitase. FF10/10-2 and FF13/13-2 for Toriyama.
Tabata and Nomura has worked on action games like Crisis Core, Type-0, Versus 13 aka FF15, FF7 Remake.
>and they've done it for so long they've created this melting pot of people that fight all the time. In the end Final Fantasy rightfully belongs to the turn based community and they should have never had to share with other demographics in the first place.
But most Final Fantasy games have been turn based. FF1-FF10 and FF13. That is 11 out of the 15 being turn based of some form.
>>337985558
Found XV Kun
>>337987709
>Good gameplay
But it is good
>final fantasy style
Who cares about "final fantasy style". Final fantasy has always just been the name Square slaps on their next big game
>Uncharted looks better
So you're telling me that a linear 8 hour game looks better than a huge open world game with a long story? STOP THE PRESSES
>>337987557
It has everything people just like to shitpost.
>>337936154
>Final Fantasy is a turn based RPG series Period.
>What is ATB
>>337988034
>But it is good
No it isn't.
>Who cares about "final fantasy style"
Final Fantasy fans.
>Gwaffix
Final Fantasy has been known for its cutting edge graphics for quite some time. For another game to beat them in this category is rather damning.
Will buy for PS4 and when it releases on PC. What is pathetic is the nu-males here using female shaming tactic calling the group gay or faggots because it doesn't feature female characters that they can kneel and kiss their feet. Fuck do I hate beta cucks.
>>337988167
>For another game to beat them in this category is rather damning.
It still looks really fucking good and like I said, OPEN WORLD VS LINEAR you dense motherfucker. U4 looks better than 99.5% of games anyway. FF has been known for good graphics since the the ps1, yes, but not as THE benchmark for graphics. It asn't the best looking series on the ps2 (god of war, mgs3, etc,) and it wasn't the best on ps3 wither (mgs4, uncharted, the last of us) Ps1 is debatable too.
>>337988672
>U4 looks better than 99.5% of games anyway
pffffhahahahaha
>>337988372
Most faggots are found at the gym.
>>337988672
KH2 Is probably one of the best looking ps2 games the fuck you mean god of war? MGS3 has good character models for the time but all else looks ugly.
>>337935108
How the fuck can you be both flashy and flacid and the same time?!
>>337988167
It is good.
It has FF style everywhere.
XV is fully dynamic with real time lighting, day/night and dynamic weather system on global illumination in an open world action RPG full of gigantic monsters, magic, party based, aerial combat in a massive 50 hour game that is the best looking one of this scale and tech.
U4 is a baked 8 hour setpiece corridor simulator where you just point and shoot humans.
They removed hitstops.They need to bring it back at least a little bit to add to the feeling of hitting something.
>>337992550
>It is good.
No it isn't.
>It has FF style everywhere.
No it doesn't.
>party based
Wrong.
>U4 is shit
And yet it's still going to be GOTY
That combat is garbage.
I'll be getting Tales of Berseria because that combat looks decent. plus it has /ss/
>>337935108
Is that Yojimbo? I'm fuckin hyped for this game
>>337984465
>Veo Lu Sluice
Get your vision checked, shit head. Veo Lue Sluice is just wild wetlands
>>337946484
I forget, which teams made which games?
>>337986197
It really isn't. This is an aquatic based city.
>>337993931
Shinjuku team: KH FM, KH2 FM, FFXV
Osaka team: everything else.
>>337994119
No wonder I lost interest in Kingdom Hearts after II then.
>>337992550
>U4 is a baked 8 hour setpiece corridor simulator
And that's a problem because....?
It works, doesn't it?
I miss the old times where devs spend time to cover up flaws.
They have to be real creative to present the game beautifully with techs limitations.
(though most of it result in having a good art style, which is a good thing, because it will last forever)
It's not about "Hey, we did the best we can in this certain way".
If they can't make a great performance out of what they are planning to do,
perhaps try to cut down some stuffs and change some things.
Else, everyone would be pushing 3D models with millions of polygons, and cry "we are doing our best in this tech!" when it's running 3fps.
>>337994517
You're acting as if every developer in the world doesn't do this. It's in a bigger scale now, sure, but it's imperative to make any game run because of hardware bottleneck. That hasn't changed.
>>337993171
Notice how you didn't counter anything?
>>337994919
Okay but I'm still right.
>>337994727
>That hasn't changed.
Really?
all i saw are games with plenty of graphical problems, especially clipping issues.
And don't forget some games that sacrifice anti alliasing just to push more polygons into a scene.
And that result in eye sores.
I'm not saying every devs doesn't do it.
like UC4, they did it and it worked damn fine.
Nintendo do that a lot too.
And most 2D games do it as well.
But don't forget there's still games like borderland that thought their job is all done by simply throwing in a cel shading shader.
>>337995024
No you aren't because XV is good.
It's FF style as fuck because it's literally a story about the crystals, and the kingdom with the crystal magic at war with a magitek empire with airships and dragoons, a plague killing the world and gods meddling in human affairs, princes, kings, princesses, emporers, summoners, monster and summon designs using the original Amano and Nomura design from ff1-7, the art director and character designer being from FF6, 7, 8 , 10 etc, world map to explore that is a mix of classic medieval fantasty elements like the classic FF, magitek like 6 and urban society and cities like 7 and 8, you have vehicles to travel the world map just like the classic from chocobo to boats to cars to train to airship. It's FF as fuck.
You literally have a party that you travel around as, you level and progress them all and you can give them all commands during combat with their own ATB bar. The system is called AXB because it's a cross between Noctis action RPG system and the other party members ATB menu commands. Even the ever changing combat is FF as fuck as the point of FF is changing and trying new things for the sake of it like the combat.
Only people that care about uncharted are Sonyfags.
I'm right you're wrong nothing you say will change that fact.
>>337996257
>It's FF style as fuck because it's literally a story about the crystals, and the kingdom with the crystal magic at war with a magitek empire with airships and dragoons, a plague killing the world and gods meddling in human affairs, princes, kings, princesses, emporers, summoners, monster and summon designs using the original Amano and Nomura design from ff1-7, the art director and character designer being from FF6, 7, 8 , 10 etc, world map to explore that is a mix of classic medieval fantasty elements like the classic FF, magitek like 6 and urban society and cities like 7 and 8, you have vehicles to travel the world map just like the classic from chocobo to boats to cars to train to airship. It's FF as fuck
That's a strange way of saying "bro trip."
>You literally have a party
A party that's forced into playing the role of second fiddle to Noctis. It's just lazy design to not allow the player to play everyone in your party.
>Sonyfags
Square wishes they still had Sony as a stockholder. Thanks XIV.
>Nothing you say will ever change my mind.
People who are dumb enough to say something like this aren't even worth debating. You basically just admitted that you will never admit you're wrong even when you know you're wrong.
