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Why?
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It's too easy. The campaign is nothing special.
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>>337927506
>Jose Otero
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>>337927506
Because apparently a game that's easy for said age range is a bad thing now.
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not enough water
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>>337927506
>>337927653
Calling it a campaign just sounds weird to me. It's a Kirby game.
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>>337927506
I guess it's time for a petition, amirite
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>>337927506
All Kirby games are piss easy, what did they expect? Nobody plays Kirby games for the challenge. Rating it based on that criterion is retarded and misses the point entirely.
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I thought it played things way too safe, it doesn't have multiplayer like Return to Dreamland and doesn't have as much verticality in the level design as Planet Robobot. A lot of the levels were way too flat.

Also the Hypernova gimmick is a bit boring compared to Super Abilities or the Mech.
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>>337927506
>IGN
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>>337927506
>Kirby game too easy
>Games of equal skill level that aren't kirby too hard

Why do these people even have jobs
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>>337927831
This Kirby games are about the journey not every glass shard, rock you step on the way.
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>>337927831
Pretty much this, goes to show you what a joke that review was when other well known review sites gave the gave solid 7.5s and 8s, i can't wait to see the bullshit review they give Planet Robobot
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>>337927686
He's actually a huge Nintendrone
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>>337928173
3/10 Kirby is too pink
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Why do people care about what one reviewer thinks, especially when that reviewer works for IGN, of all companies?
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>>337927506
>Nintendo making subpar products.
This can't be true!
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Justice for Rapp HAHAHA
FUCK NINTENDO
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>>337928354
2/10 borb is mean
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Kirby is too simple a concept to have the bland, boring level design the last few games have had. Kirby hasn't really been fun since the GBA games
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>>337927506
Find some good reviews by the same person. They could just not like the genre of video game Kirby usually is.
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wait a kirby game is easy.. shit.. what.. the...oh.. my... g*d...
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I do think a lot of the later Kirby games are a little too easy. Return to Dreamland felt pretty decent on the whole (though it could have been tougher).

I would actually like it if they did what they did all the way back in the first Kirby game and offer harder "extra game" modes to offer a little bit of a challenge (ie, more aggressive enemies, trickier boss patterns, etc.)
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>>337927506
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GAME OVER NINTENDO
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>7.8/10, TMK
>TMK?!
>"Too Much Kirby"
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>>337928497
>Alien Isolation
>5.9

Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck were they expecting?
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>>337927653
>>337927695
Aren't most AAA games easy anyways? Why does Kirby get criticism for it.
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>>337927653
>game is too hard
>game journalist complain

>game is too easy
>Game journalist complain

WHAT DO THEY WANT
WHAT DO THEY WANT

First the complain PS4 is too hard to turn on because the buttons are confusing now they complain a kiddies game is too easy
yeah no shit sherlock
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>>337927506
>IGN
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>>337927506
>>337928497
Is IGN the new Polygon?
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>>337928645
Because apparently Kirby needs to be unforgiving and brutal like Demon Dark Souls Borne
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>>337928559
>I do think a lot of the later Kirby games are a little too easy
Every Kirby game is easy. Kirby's Dream Land, the first Kirby game ever created, might even be the easiest one.
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>>337927506
Those are both pretty fair complaints that many kirby games have.
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>>337928559
>dedede tour
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>>337928870
It's a kid's game, it's suppose to be easy
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>>337928735
Could be.
Shield your eyes, this one isn't pretty.
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>>337928735
They've been like that since Craig Harris left. No really, read their Sengoku Basara review.
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>>337928870
So literally every thing is great, but because it's easy that means it should be 6/10?

Did they even play Arena?
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>>337928870
yes. lets make a game for ages 0 - 12 as hard as dark souls.
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>>337927506
>A Kirby game is easy
Woooow.
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>>337928860
>Kirby's Dream Land, the first Kirby game ever created, might even be the easiest one
Anon...
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>>337928975
>"its hard not to miss the originals"

>This was an actual negative comment

What the fuck is their grading criteria?
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>>337928975
>captures original attitude

Someone post the twerking and memes.
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>>337928975
These fuckers
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7.8/10 too much water
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>>337927506
This true for all Kirby games. None of them are actually good, but since they are too easy, people just call them fun. And most of the games are really short, I'm suprised Nintendo charges people full price for them
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>>337928974
Games can be easy without being completely braindead and boring. Nintendo was great at that between the 64 and gamecube

>>337928839
>>337929064
You know there's such a thing as a middle ground, right?
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>>337929236
To be completely fair, that is a legitimate complaint about Gen 3, bit worded as lazy as possible.
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>>337928669
this may sound crazy but game journalists are not one person

also that's typically why you should be reading the actual review and forming your own opinion using the information -- since the score and highlights are basically theirs and will vary based on their preferences
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>>337929245
here's a (You)
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>>337928975
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EioTwSMS0-k
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>>337929236
I still don't get the autism over this one, people complained about the region having too much water since forever. It gets boring doing all the water routes even when though they made it a bit quicker

Plus the game cuts a load of shit and doesn't improve as much when HG/SS improved and added. 7.8 is generous
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>give Skyward Sword a 10
>leave IGN and start working at Nintendo a year later

Hmmm.....
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>>337929730
ah fuck, I forgot all about that review.

Skyward Sword is a 5. 6 on a GOOD day.
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i wish kirby had better games today likes the old coop game with the shattered mirrors that you had to repairs by beating boss and it wasn't linear at all

and i've seen a video of this one, and HOLY SHIT THE ALIASING IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE
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>>337927506
Why would anyone (especially on /v/) care about IGN reviews? They rate up "artsy" games and shit like this>>337928975, but shit on games for reasons like "it's too easy" and then immediately shit on the next game for being "too hard."
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>>337929858
Stop yelling, you white faggot.
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>>337927506
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I will agree that Triple deluxe's story mode or "campaign" was nothing special. But to say it's too easy when the same site also gave Epic Yarn 9/10 (a game in which you can not achieve a concrete "fail state") is laughable.

I will assume they'll give Planet Robobot a 7.5 or 8 since this is more to it since the game's final stretch and story is a bit more novel than recent games.
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>>337927506
I bet this guy didn't even play the true arena or dedede tour
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shouldn't difficulty be scored depending on the target audience? a M rated game should be decently hard for an adult, but Kirby is like Mario, it's for young gamer demographic that adults can still play for some comfy time.
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>>337927506
They're right but Kirby is supposed to be easy since it's pretty much designed to be playable by anyone.
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>>337927810
That's just become the accepted nomenclature of today to describe what would traditionally be called "single player" or "story mode"
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>>337929986
>DSP being right
woooooooow
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>>337929854
It's a 7 at worst
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>>337930310
You're not wrong, but I just can't shake it. It fits, but it doesn't.
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OH MAI I JUST CANT(gonna stop caps now) uh kirby planet robobot is the next game of kirby and im just really exited and just wanted to share what im feeling. ughsjkdjsodujdopsnc dcn ioids kcxznsdc kxjndx c i just cant right now. kirby+robots what can u ask for more. am i right? i cant be the only person exited for this
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>>337930096
He probably didn't even bother playing and asked someone nearby
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>>337927506
Because it's completely meh tier.
It has absolutely nothing new on it beyond hypernova and guess what? Hypernova sucks.
The final boss was cool but everything else was boring. Previous kirbys had an extra mode that made shit more fun after you beated it once, this one has the dedede tour and that's it.

The bosses are also fucking nanoying and not really dangerous. They spend more time hanging around in the other side of the world doing fuck nothing which wouldn't be bad if you could fucking hit them, but they just float there while you wait sitting on your ass for them to come back. I fucking hated that toad for that, took him a year to come back.

And it's easy. But it's for kids! well, I played superstar as a kid, and nightmare to dreamland, and while they were easy too I died here and here, and I had to replay the stages to find the secrets. In triple deluxe it's impossible to die and everything is in your face.
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>>337928975
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>>337928669
>WHAT DO THEY WANT

A well balanced game ?
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>>337929730
infiltration objective complete
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>>337930626
>hypernova sucks
well yeah that's the whole point
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>>337928368
Confirmation bias. People need to be told what they already believe. Someone else having an opinion on a video game they don't agree with unacceptable!
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>>337927506
You can always bombard the review video on YT with negatives
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>>337930759
balanced to who? the reviewer or the customers?
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>>337930992
And yet, here we are.
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>>337928669
Too bad a lot of the reason why IGN loves Souls series is because they're hard. It's not a crime to want to play a game that actually has a difficulty curve instead of playing something made for literal toddlers.
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>>337931141
Are you saying this game isn't too easy ?
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>>337927506
I wonder if they even got to the true arena since this one is easily the hardest in the kirby series due to how health refill works.
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>>337930884
Fuck you, you know what I mean. It exists only to make some shitty puzzles and to provide muh 3D cinematic press B to absorb! moments. It's unneeded
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>>337929986
I think this is the only time DSP was ever on point about something
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>>337930310
>accepted nomenclature
It's not though. Nobody will use campaign to describe Mario or zelda. all it does is show you are a shooter faggot whose favorite game is either Halo or Cod and you were definitely not neutral to review Kirby games.
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>>337929986
BASED AS FUCK
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>>337927954
Well this journey is mediocre
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>>337931221
calm down it's a joke m8

tbqh, I actually liked the Hypernova parts. Not saying everyone should, but I personally found them fun.
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>>337927506
>Too easy
A game for kids being too easy? Wow, just... wow.
Although everyone can enjoy it, as Kirby games are fun af.

Unlock the True Arena if you want a challenge, fagget.
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>>337931151
I personally find it hilarious that 99% of "gamers" are so childish that they chimp out over game reviews. I don't see what is so hard about going "well I disagree but whatever" and moving on with your life.

And on that note, I can't wait to see the Nintendrone meltdown over Zelda U getting bad reviews.
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>>337931176
Kirby isn't made for literal toddlers. You're thinking of eC games, which are actually made for literal toddlers.
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>>337928975
I never played that video game.
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>>337931580
>Kirby isn't made for literal toddlers.

Keep telling yourself that, champ.
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>>337931572
I like you. We think alike.
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>>337927506
coz he aint get angry
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>forgettable campaign
as if anyone on planet earth remembers the first Kirby game's campaign. what a dumb argument.

I agree on the too easy part.
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>>337931726
It isn't, and you perceiving it that way doesn't magically change what the developers had in mind.

Imagine being so narcissistic that you think you get to decide why someone else made a game.
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>>337929730
>no voice acting is a bad thing in Zelda games

the horror
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I WILL GRANT YOU ONE WISH
READY>
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>>337928497
this makes me fucking mad
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>>337931141
well the person who is reviewing it is giving their opinion, that's all a review is.
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>>337932089
BLOW
UP
POPSTAR
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>>337932249
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At the end of the day, it's just Triple Deluxe with a mech mechanic.
>B-but its fun!
And that's okay. But it's still Triple Deluxe with a mech.
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>>337927506

>Too easy

Did he at least have fun though?
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>>337931572
>I can't wait to see the Nintendrone meltdown over Zelda U getting bad reviews.

This
If UC4 fans got mad over one single bad review I can't wait for ZeldaU getting even one mediocre review
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TD had really boring level design

Only places it shone were the great boss fights and the new abilities as well as past ones further fleshed out, though personally those are the most important parts of a Kirby game so it was pretty good

That said expecting challenge from Kirby is a fucking joke
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>>337932720
TD was good, if it has a mech that's also good.
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>>337932005
Dude, the games are colorful, simple and above all else, very very easy. They're meant to be for young children. You can call them "for everyone" but theyre not.

Do you Kirbyfags watch Nick Jr. cartoons and claim they "aren't for children" because they are entertained by then?
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>>337927506
Hahajahahahwuahagahahahwhwhahahahqhqhahshahshaha
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>>337927506
6/10 - It's Okay
-IGN
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>>337932249
OK >
3, 2, 1, BLAST OFF!
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>>337932005
Sakurai is on record saying he created Kirby as an entry level game for beginners (which 90% of the time are children).

Don't get me wrong, theyre good games, but they're kid's games.
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>>337927506
kek, fucking ign
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>>337932720
Level design and major gimmick are far better in PR than TD, though the boss fights are generally pretty lackluster and the only good new ability is Doctor while the old ones are all lifted from Super Star or Triple Deluxe

That said the OP image isn't even PR
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>>337932005
Why are Kirby fans so fucking pretentious about their series? The games are made for kids, just admit it.
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>>337933465
The Halberd reflection was a really nice touch.
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>>337933184
>>337933547
I'm not saying it's bad, Triple Deluxe was a decent game, and I'm actually gonna buy it but I understand where the reviewers may get off giving it an underwhelming score.
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The sad this is this thread was made by an adult.
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>>337933896
Eh, that's cool m8. I'm getting Robobot and I'm really looking forward to it. Googling it produced an IGN article that said they liked PR, so I don't know what to make of them. Also Robobot apparently topped JP sales charts so at least the franchise is doing well. Man I love Kirby.
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>>337927695
If this were a title for a non-nintendo current gen console, Nintendogaffer would consider it a bad thing but apparently it's okay to tolerate it when Nintendo does it.
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Eh. I think the score is a bit too low, but Triple Deluxe is a 7 at best. It's definitely one of the more mediocre Kirby games, and it's the worst of the post RTDL trilogy. The complaints for the game are stupid, but this is IGN we're talking about. There's a lot more problems with TD than the difficulty and the level design.
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>>337933896
That's fine but the OP image is TD and not PR
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>>337934305
Because when Nintendo does it it's all about fun you stupid faggot. Other games are just soulless and realistic dudebro shit like Memewatch or Le Dark Souls.
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>>337931501
The hypernova sections were impressive, and even a little fun the first run though the game, but my god does it just kill any momentum the gameplay had on subsequent replays of the game. Way too slow.
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>>337934650
Because Other M was so colorful and light hearted right?
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>>337934650
>fun
Don't use that copout excuse if you want others to take you seriously. But I already bit your bait.
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>>337928467
Kirby being able to float makes it hard to make engaging and challenging levels without limiting the number of jumps he has or making them full of Insta death drop holes.
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It's simple

>Kirby is a japanese game
these journos despise japan, i thought that was clear
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>Okay
That very much describes playing Triple Deluxe. I couldn't wait to get to the end, which I lamented. But collecting the how many ever buttfucks, nothing interesting happening, and the amount of content recycled from RtDL (which was already a very mediocre game in all regards) just sucked all the enjoyment from the game.

>6.0
7.0.
It didn't fail, seeing as we did get Kirby Fighters and Dedede's Drum Dash from it, but it doesn't deserve a fraction of a point higher.
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>>337935441
I thought this was reply bait, but looking at a lot of their reviews, you're right.

Regardless, Triple Deluxe is one of my favorite Kirby games at least until PR comes out
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>>337929007

Craig left? That explains why everything became shit.
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I actually agree. Compared to SqueakSquad of all games. Its boring, very unoriginal levels, much slower paced than old kirby games. And half the bosses arent fun since they can hide in the background half the time
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>>337933192
>the games are colorful, simple and above all else, very very easy.
You mean like virtually every game that's rated E for everyone?
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>>337933192
Nick Jr. cartoons are specifically for children, though. It even says so in the name.

A better analogy would be Kirbyfags enjoying Disney movies.
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>>337928669
the balance
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>>337936985
>tfw huge Kirbyfag
>I hate disney anything
pls no anon
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>>337936794
>I don't know what "above all" means
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>>337929284
>You know there's such a thing as a middle ground, right?

Not to journos and /v/ there isn't
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>>337929854
nah its a cool 7
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>>337927506
They decided to make it for 3DS and not a real console like Wii U.
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>>337927820
What do I look like, a Sonigger?
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>>337929730
>two negatives
>still perfect
fucking how
a 10/10 is perfect
if there's a flaw then it isn't perfect
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Because is shit nintendo tier
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>>337927506
>YWW and DKTF are too hard, 6/10
>Kirby 3D is too easy, 6/10
Honestly now
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>>337928497
>Ryan Mccaffrey

Why do they even let this moron review games
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>>337927653
>kirby
>too easy

what do you expect? kirby's always been geared towards kids
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>>337927506

Journalistic integrity is a thing of the distant past.

I remember a game magazine gave Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door a 3 out of 10. And that caused an incredible backlash.

Then one of the hosts of Judgment Day on G4 had a similar opinion, citing the "horrible midi music." as a reason for his Thumbs Down rating.
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>>337939320
>Then one of the hosts of Judgment Day on G4 had a similar opinion, citing the "horrible midi music." as a reason for his Thumbs Down rating.
Tommy Tallarico is a crazy person and heavily weighs audio, being a musician himself.

Remember how his most common complaint for nearly every game was "that one footstep sound"
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>>337927506
>believing the /v/ shilling

I bet you bought Star Fox Zero too
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>Triple Deluxe's main game
>forgettable

nigga that has one of the best last chunks of any Kirby game
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>>337940479
I liked the whole thing
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>>337940473
about what
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>>337927506

Nintendo didn't pay them enough or give them enough ad support.
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>You know there's such a thing as a middle ground, right?
Revolution 60?
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>>337928975
>>337929129
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-LcFBP9LCs

IGN just hates Kirby.
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>>337943563
Didn't even watch it, but look at the dislikes on that thing. I guess there's nothing to worry about, people love Kirby and IGN is just terrible like always.
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>>337944129
People never stopped loving Kirby. It's just that reviewers can't really wrap their minds around colorful and fun nowadays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HanlOviJ62E

Seriously what the fuck is wrong is reviewers and trying to destroy one of the best series in video game history.
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>>337928975
>Nice Visuals
You mean the show dripping with animation errors?
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>>337944390
>rainbow curse
My man, that game was amazing. I mean I guess most reviewers don't like colorful and fun, but I will always love Kirby. Also despite reviews being bullshit Kirby isn't going anywhere, Robobot topped sales charts in Japan.
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>>337944390
Judging by the footage theyre using, it just looks like they're bad.
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>>337927506
>lack of challenge

This is an IGN review?
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>>337943279
THEYRE CHILDREN GOD DAMNIT
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Good, fuck modern Kirby games. All the same shit after Amazing Mirror.
>Hey, y'know that Kirby game on the GBA where the entire world is one big map and you can run all over the place?
>Yeah, that was a ton of fun! Why?
>Well what if we took Amazing Mirror
>Yeah
>Took Kirby 64's power combinations
>Uh huh?
>and a fantastic artstyle like Kirby's Epic Yarn
>YEAH?!
>and NEVER use them again and shit out boring Kirby adventures over and over again?
>That's fucking stup-
>ALRIGHT, we'll do it!
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>>337944874
I have no idea what is wrong with them. Outside of them just wanting to destroy Kirby I can't imagine why reviews are always so fucking negative on Kirby. "It's too EASY!" Yeah because it's for kids but I can enjoy it too. And if you watched the Rainbow Curse review "Kirby doesn't have his normal moves!" Yeah every other game in the Kirby series is something weird and new which is actually good for a series so it doesn't get stale.
>>337944958
Yeah she looks like she is just drawing lines all over the place not really thinking what to do.
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>>337944874
Here's the the top ten of the chart if anyone was interested.
01./00. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) – 145.000 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 (Konami) {2016.04.28} (¥7.980) – 102.000 / NEW
03./00. [PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 (Konami) {2016.04.28} (¥6.980) – 85.000 / NEW
04./00. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 (Konami) {2016.04.28} (¥6.980) – 56.000 / NEW
05./03. [3DS] Yo-Kai Sangokushi (Level 5) {2016.04.02} (¥4.600) – 35.000 / 465.000 (+22%)
06./00. [PS3] Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.04.28} (¥7.980) – 20.000 / NEW
07./06. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 (Square Enix) {2016.03.24} (¥5.250) – 15.000 / 572.000 (-6%)
08./02. [PSV] One Piece: Burning Blood # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.04.21} (¥6.800) – 10.000 / 43.000 (-69%)
09./01. [PS4] One Piece: Burning Blood # (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.04.21} (¥7.600) – 10.000 / 45.000 (-72%)
10./16. [WIU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥5.700) – 9.000 / 861.000 (+53%)

>337945242
No (you) for you
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>>337927506
JUST
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>>337944874
Gee, I dunno, maybe because they took a fantastic-looking game and made us look at a shitty 480p screen that makes everything look like it's covered in vaseline? How about that?
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>>337928645
I will never understand this, all triple A I played was easy, brain dead easy, but it's okay I guess when you play for the story.
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>>337927506
Yeah because IGN doesn't have an anti nintendo bias.
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it's all over for nintendon't i'm afraid
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>>337927506
>Lack of challenge

True Arena says hi
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>>337945371
>Yeah she looks like she is just drawing lines all over the place not really thinking what to do.
Theres one point in the video where she's just spamming random lines in every direction while kirby slowly drifts into an enemy.
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>>337945371
>Kirby doesn't have his normal moves
Well plenty of games have had a nonstandard moveset for Kirby and they've been great. Idk what the problem is. But no, I'm not giving them views, sorry.
>>337945490
What?
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ITT: Nintendrones reveal how retarded they truly are.
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>>337945850
Oh don't watch it. I was just showing you that reviewers seem to think Kirby is somehow shouldn't exist. Also in the video she seem to be complaining a few times how Kirby can't gain powers. And not seem to realize how there's a few games where Kirby doesn't gain powers like Epic Yarn.
>>337945789
I do love watching her fuck up so many times yet seem to blame the game.
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>>337927831
Kirby Super Star had some sort of challenge, it wasn't completely piss easy
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>>337946248
Yes it was. You were just young.
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>>337946173
>And not seem to realize how there's a few games where Kirby doesn't gain powers like Epic Yarn.
Or even the very first game.
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>>337927506
>Forgettable Campaign
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>>337928669
They want every game to be Undertale and Gone Home.
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>>337934650
>it's all about fun
That's pretty fucking vague and you know it. When someone else makes a game like it, you could say it's ALSO about fun.
IMO, in Nintendo's case, it's about making a sequel as financially safe as possible.
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>>337946562
>>337946562
Yeah, Triple Deluxe was nothing special.
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>>337946173
Well the people reviewing them obviously haven't played many Kirby games so they don't know jack shit. I really should go back to ignoring reviewers. I think I'll go play some Kirby TD Dedede Tour now.
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>>337946562
The review is for Triple Deluxe which I agree on it being kind of forgettable besides Sectonia and some other things. Planet Robobot was fantastic though.
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>>337946874
I don't really care about reviews in general. I just like laughing when they talk about just fun charming colorful games and just completely hate on it.
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>>337946786
Hyper nova kirby is fucking shit.

The Robot fucking rocks.
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>>337928669
Obligatory

http://youtu.be/d3pQ0oO_cDE
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>>337947127
Yeah. It's good to know that people still love Kirby regardless of reviews though. Robobot is probably the game I'll enjoy the most this year.
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>>337947527
MHG is on my top of the list. But 2016 seem to have a fantastic lineup this year.
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>>337947803
Indeed. Kirby, MHG, SMT4F, etc.
>tfw still can't get that last Drum Dash gold medal and stuck at 99% completion
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>>337934305
The problem with that logic is that kirby has never been a hard game, it's always been consistently this range of challenge.
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>IGN gives something a poor rating because its too easy
Let me guess, the latest CoD is a 9/10?
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>>337934870
Which is why no one liked Other M.
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>>337948087
DQ 7 and 8. Please get them if you enjoy JRPG to support more Dragon Quest. Those games are really amazing.
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>>337943563
Was it IGN that had the person playing Rainbow Curse who was absolutely blowing it?
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>>337948301
Already getting them m8. I love 3DS JRPGs and DQ is no exception.
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>>337948201
They gave D44M a 7/10 for being too much like the old ones.
Take that how you.
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>>337948410
>>337944390
Gamespot.
>>337948436
Sweet. Sorry but man does Dragon Quest need all the help it can get since SE isn't helping.
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>>337948989
>Gamespot.
Ah, certainly is a pathetic display isn't it?
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>>337947275
Hypernova absorbing giant beams and expanding upon Kirby's natural power was fucking hype. Shitty that it has to happen through a stupid fruit, but whatever.

This robot is just dumb, a one-shot no-nothing gimmick that doesn't fit Kirby's image nor Popstar that will rightfully never see the light of day again.
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>>337948989
Well I'll help it, DQ is good. tbqh my favorite dq game was a spinoff, Rocket Slime.
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>>337927506
>Kirby game is baby shit
Color me surprised.
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>>337949379
I think they're both great
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>>337928975
>Nice visuals
There's like 20 animation errors each episode
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>>337929986
>dps is right
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>>337931297
WHAT IS ADVANCE WARS
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>>337946415
No, it wasn't. Great Cave Offensive, in particular, WOULD kill you if you went for 100%. Nova/Heart of Nova was very wonky with collision and hitboxes. Lastly, The Arena was the typical Kirby Boss Rush, but actually having healing items enticed players to give it a go. Still, learning attack patterns does take some tries, especially for very young players.
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>>337949434
>Never seeing Rocket Slime 3
Still fucking hurts.
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>>337927506
Too many power ups.
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Why does Easy = Bad now. Metal Gear Rising is piss easy and it's still a great game.
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>>337949991
Yeah what happened to Rocket Slime?
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>>337949547
Robot isn't altogether bad, just, not really what would be considered "great."

Like Nightmare. Nightmare only gets a pass because he's the first OH FUCK SHIT moment in Kirby. Nightmare by himself would be okay, but lined up with all the other HURR DIRECTLY SORCERER final bosses that we've gotten, he becomes a dusty, outdated, played-out relic.

Just hurry up and bring back Dark Matter. And K. Rool, for God's sake.
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>>337950247
Dork Souls.
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>>337950345
Robot feels really good to play as
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>>337950247
It doesn't, it's just /v/ being gay.

>EXAMPLES FAGGOT
TMNT 2, 3, or 4 > TMNT 1
KH1 > KH Anything Else
Time Crisis 2 > Time Crisis 3 or 4
Etc.
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>>337931572
>And on that note, I can't wait to see the Nintendrone meltdown over Zelda U getting bad reviews
Considering the Twilight Princess chimpout about ~10 years ago (christ, the time truly flows), I'd expect nothing less than a Defcon 1 shitstorm.
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>>337950456
I would certainly hope so.

If I get to borrow it from a friend or something, I will try it. Or buy it Used from Gamestop and take it back within a week like I did Triple Deluxe about 2 years after the fact.
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>Forgettable campaign
Fuckoff, sorry you have fucking autism and can't remember more then 12 minutes
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>>337950725
If you're going to do that why not hack your 3DS and play it now?
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>>337945242
True enough. Not saying that the 3ds one are bad but, they just feel a bit less soulless than NSMB
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>>337950325
The same thing that happened to Dragon Quest over here. SE said "You no like DQ we no localize" Even after DQ9 sold over a million copies here.
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>IGN will claim Susie was too sexual for younger viewers
>This will inevitably piss off SJW's who "play video games"
>We get more porn
Everybody wins
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You know, I respect IGN for tolerating reviews like this. Different people have their opinion, and the reviewer didn't like this game. IGN still published the article, knowing it would receive blow back, because the site has journalistic integrity. Not sure what people are getting so angry about.
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>>337950449
Dark Souls isn't all that difficult. It's just not Easy.
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>>337951315
I wonder who's behind this post
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>>337950725
well have fun m8
>>337951218
Well that sucks. I loved Rocket Slime, it's tank battles, everything.
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>>337950873
I had success hacking my Wii, but eh, too much hassle for just one game.

Especially since most of the game just doesn't excite me. Plus I already spoiled the ending, and Nova again just seems incredibly silly, kinda hurts the lore having more than one.
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>>337951248
That thing looks dumb as hell, who would want porn for that?
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>>337951701
......
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>>337951441
t. paranoid retard who believes everybody with something positive to say is a shill
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>>337949379
Hyper nova was shit.

GET FRUIT
WATCH ANIMATION
SOLVE THE SAME PUZZLES WITH IT EVERY TIME INVOLVING MOVING SOMETHING BY SUCKING IT

its
shite.
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>>337951929
Shut the fuck up you wish stealing Jew Jester
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>>337951929
That would be a sensible stance if you weren't talkign about IGN. But you are, so it's crazy nonsense.
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>>337927506
>Too easy
tell that to the true arena
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>>337928559
Most of the newer kirby games have this option. Return to Dream Land had EX Mode with half health and tougher bosses. triple deluxe had Dedede tour which had tougher bosses and an extra boss. Robobot Has Metaknightmare Returns with tougher bosses and 3 extra bosses. All games starting with Super Star Ultra has a true arena mode which has another extra boss at the end of the ordeal.
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At least a 7
The game was forgettable but kirby fighters , DDD mini game, playing as DDD, and the arena made it good
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>>337952340
lol, that would require them to finish the game.
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>>337952094
Oh yes, the gameplay of it was horrid.

But the power implications for Kirby and the appropriateness of the theme of it were EXCELLENT.
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>>337927506
Now post the Tropical Freeze one, where it got blasted for being "frustrating". Or better yet, the Rainbow Curse review that claimed it was too hard to play, since it is also a Kirby game.
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>>337951807
Oh, whatever. I doubt it'll get much though. No ambiguity with its design. Barely any room for pic related.
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>>337950571
KH2:FM is better than any other action RPG ever made.
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>>337952978
>Tfw Nintendo of America poses as Cranky Kong and totally BTFO their shitty review
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>>337953190
Did they really? link me, man!
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>>337927506
They weren't paid for the review.
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>>337945224

>children twerking

"sexualizing children is OK!"

>Miss Bellum removed from the show because she's problematic

"Adult females who are sexy is NOT OK!"

This is progress.
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>>337953116
Yeah, no.
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>>337952094
The last part with it was insane. I mean you ate a boss and it's health bar! But yeah for the most part Hyper wasn't that great of idea. Hoping the Robot does do something new and enjoyable.
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>>337953329
this is truly the epitome of progress.

is Sara actually removed from the show? what the fuck why? she's in every way a feminist's icon except maybe for the fact that she's a ginger with a niggerfro.
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>>337953457
Not him but from the /v/ threads, Robot is pretty top dollar. At this point I am more hyped for it than FE Fates.
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>>337953402
Well, you sure did convince me with that stellar argument. I've played through most of the KH games several times. 1 is gerat and all, but it's rather slow and stiff compared to 2, and very lacking in content compared to KH2:FM.

>but muh story
Yeah, it was stupid in the first game, too.
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>>337927506
Isnt Kirby supposed to be an entry level platformer, I mean that they specifically designed the game with that in mind.
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>>337953329
>they remove the person who actually got stuff done around townsville because of how incompetent the mayor is at doing his job
this is some progress
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>Thinking corporate reviews are relevant
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>>337953501
>feminist icon
maybe 60 years ago when feminism actually meant something or mattered
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>>337953329
>>337953501
>a woman who is more competent and intelligent than literally anyone else on the show is problematic
I hate everything. All of it. Just kill me, God.
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>>337953573
It's generally agreed to be an exceptionally good game. Even IGN had an article saying that they thought it looked good.
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>>337927506
Because Modern Nintendo
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>>337953853
but you see
the fat 30 something tumblr whales that grew up on this show can't be triggered by seeing an attractive woman who's worked hard to get where she is.

At least they didn't outright replace her with an obese gender fluid bernie supporter
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>>337928497
I really enjoyed Alien Isolation but it does have poor pacing. Still though its an 8/10. What a joke.
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>>337953723
why do people say kirby is an entry level platformer? playing KatAM, I keep getting deaths especially against fucking Meta Knight. this isn't entry level at all, or maybe I just suck ass?

>>337953778
literally what the fuck.
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A game can be easy, but still be good and designed well.
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>>337953246
1/2
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>>337927506

He talks about how its for kids not adults and the same dude gave new yoshis island a better score and says its for more than just kids.
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>>337953573
I am too but I'm more of a Kirby fan than a FE fan. That being said I did enjoy Birthright but I also don't really care about localization changes like /v/.
>>337953723
It may sound shocking to a lot of people but there was a time when Mario was considered too hard for a lot of people. Kirby was really made to make platforming more accessible for people that wasn't good at them. Like the ability to float over it and the overpoweredness of Kirby. That being said 80% of Kirby is easy but the last 20% is crazy hard. Kind of like how 80% of Mario games are easy but those bonus levels are wicked challenging at times.
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>>337954223
2/2
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>>337954097
I have something to tell you anon.
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>>337954223
>>337954324
I'd rather see devs and reviewers be enemies than chummy-chum butt buddies like the giantbomb/harmonix or kotaku/indie darlings shit we see today.

both aren't fair but least you might see a bit more honesty out of both sides.
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>>337953643
Dude, it takes too long to spell out everything wrong with KH2, and I really just don't feel like visiting that nightmare again.

Suffice to say - the inane Drive math, useless elemental Keyblade upgrades, edgy story (yeah, KH1's story might have been full of holes too, but at least it didn't leave a sour taste in your mouth), and the Triangle nonsense that unintentionally sucked the life out of battles are just a few of many issues with KH2.
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>>337954223
>>337954324
GET FUCKED
>>
If you listen to thier IGN Nintendo podcast, you would realize that have a bias against Kirby. They said one time they they think Nintendo should kill the off the franchise (along with Yoshi), and the old guy, Peer I think, said he doesn't understand why Kirby keept getting mroe games while other "better franchises like Metroid" don't. They also say it's a small franchise that Nintendo keeps so they make games with their platforms are dead.
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>>337954324
Holy shit
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>>337953853
Welcome to my personal little hell. And I'm religious, so suicide isn't an option.

What drink ya want? It's on me.
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>>337954223
>layers of challenge for core players
>some collectibles are too hard to find
BUT
>too basic for platforming fans
Can't spell IGNorant...

>derivative levels
>platforming "tricks" that are "cheap"
Cranky was right, those fucks need some git in their gud.
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>>337953501
>is Sara actually removed from the show? what the fuck why?
Because she has a sexy body
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>>337954523
Problem is that there's too many reviewers to please then there's the fact that reviewers have been spoiled these last few years that people who don't bribe them don't get shit.
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>>337954539
>and the Triangle nonsense that unintentionally sucked the life out of battles
You seem to have brain damage. I suppose we should just leave it there.
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>>337954324
I played that game, and it was cheap. You had no possible way of knowing what the hell was going on with your footing half of the time.
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>>337928464
1/10 robot is not realistic
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>>337954223
>>337954324
>NoA actually being based
HOW?
WHEN DID IT ALL GO WRONG?
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>>337954324
>NoA will literally never be this based again

just shut it down
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>>337954951
It helps if you open your eyes.
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>>337927506
Does anybody here really give a shit about a site that is almost always paid off for good reviews?
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>>337927506
Okay is the only english word Kirby can use to describe things
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>>337954951
Fuck off Marx
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>>337955113
That's Ness.
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>>337954934
>We could make battles where this great stuff happens if the player attacks at the right time or positions themselves correctly...

>OR WE COULD JUST MAKE A FLASHY CONTROL GIMMICK THAT SUCKS OUT ANY PLAYER INGENUITY AND TELEGRAPHS EVERYTHING
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>>337954539
>RCs suckd the life out of battles
>I was forced to use RCs

lmfao. No Reaction Commands is a common challenge on MikachuTuhonen's channel.
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>(-)kirby is too easy
>(-)tropical freeze is too hard
Fuck reviews
>kirby too easy
What the fuck nigga kirby has never been hard, that's kinda the point
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>>337955015
seems to have been within the past year an a half or so. They were great up through E3 2014 or so, and even some of 2015.
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>>337955113
He describes stoners too
>HAAAAIIIII
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>>337955195
That's Sans.
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>>337927506
Because reviewers deduct 2 points for being nintendo.
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>>337927506
>too easy
isnt this what kirby is known for lol
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>>337955306
>This shit again
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>>337954879
waaah sum ppl have sex-e bodees waaaah

what kind of retarded justification is that?
>>
>>337955330
That's actually something that I swear Gamespot used to do.
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>>337927506
Because nintendo hasn't made a good game in about a decade? What did you expect?
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>>337955080
>>337955146
>>337955228
Autism.
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>>337955439
>>
>>337927506

>expecting challenge from a kirby game

>WOAH MAN. WHAT THE FUCK MCDONALDS WHERES MUH STEAK?!?!?!?
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>>337955439
A month isn't a decade you know.
>>
>near 300 posts about a review score
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>>337928975
>>337928735
IGN was always shit, what did you expect?

Like seriously?
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>>337954097
>why do people say kirby is an entry level platformer?
Sakurai literally said that's what the series was created to be.
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>>337955504
Great argument
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>>337955015
When the Directs started to happen and Nintendo basically cut people like IGN off. NoA seem to realize that gaming sites don't really do a good job at anything so they been basically poking them with a stick for fun.
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>>337928735

As bad as IGN may be at their jobs, and as stupid as they are with some of their reviews (while the same reviewer gives a much worse game a much higher score, like in pic related) at least IGN does their job unlike Polygon who

>take 2 points off the score off a game because he was triggered
>blatantly refuse to review a game
>clickbait articles and flatout lying in said articles
>can't even use two sticks at the same time.
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>>337955504
Kill yourself Marx
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>>337955651
You're one to talk.
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>>337955926
Why is that?
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>>337955504
>everything I don't like is autism
oh boy this delectable meme once again. T_T'
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>>337955863
I know I will get tired of their Doom video but not for a LONG time.
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>>337953329
>>337953329

But Japan does this (well at least the first part, not the second part) and no one here seems to complain about that.
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>>337955679
The problem with that though is that the idiot masses rely on and take those reviews to heart when they should just be a guideline at the most.
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>>337955897
Who the fuck is Marx, anyway? Some Let's Play-er? I'm guessing that, seeing as that kinda filth litters the front page these days.

It's bad when you underage faggots are making me miss tripfag /v/, you know that?
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>>337956070
I guess this is another /v/eddit thread.

Going to cry about cuck next?
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>>337953329
Don't forget the fact that she was competent and intellegent
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>>337955228
>>337954539
>>337954934
Reaction commands are a mixed bag and I'm kinda sad that they dropped them altogether, because conceptually they're a good idea.

It's just a context sensitive button that can help battles be more dynamic.
Take the Berserker Nobodies for example, how you can take their weapon, grab a bunch of enemies and smack them around. That's cool shit. That's using them right.

When it's just "press triangle to play a cutscene" then they're bad and don't really add anything to the gameplay.
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>>337929129
I'll do you one better
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>>337956047
You offered no argument or facts or anything. So out with it, or I'm right and you're buttmad.

>>337956070
Also buttmad, or you didn't realize I was talking about the quality of the posts. Or maybe both.
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>>337956110
That's because in japan they make adults that look like children.
In America they make kids that act questionably.
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>>337928975
https://youtu.be/xOS8giDOpio?t=45

RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>337956137
>Underage
>Let's Play-er
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>>337931231

Ironically enough most of his reviews on products are for the most part, on point.
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>>337956130
Honestly I don't think game reviews are that important anymore. Since people now have youtube to view how a game actually plays. Which I think is way more helpful on making a decision than anything else.
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>>337956316
>Coming from the faggot who started this off by saying "Autism", and nothing else
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>>337927686
>Otero
Isn't that the same name as the guy who made the Pokemon Tower Defense game?
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>>337955418
>what kind of retarded justification is that?
Sjw justification. They don't need real reasons to be angry.
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>>337956470
You say that but those same reviewers make video reviews on youtube and more often than not are the first ones to come up when searching for gameplay.
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>>337956287
Well enough, but you don't need a damn dedicated button for that. Just do timings and positioning and clearly-prompting enemy attack animations.
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>>337956507
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>>337956137
How are you in a Kirby thread when you dont know about the best Kirby Villain?
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>>337956692
What button would you use for context sensitive actions? The regular attack button? Jump? What if you just wanted to attack normally instead of activating the reaction command?
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>>337927954
I think you mean Crystal Shard
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>>337956793
Is this the new /mlp/ spam?
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>>337956316
saying "autism" doesn't mean you're talking about post quality or anything at all. come on dude.

>>337956179
the retarded cuck meme needs to die, too. nothing reddit about pointing out facts.
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>>337955537
Literally started this "new" Super Kirby bros. Series. I am fucking tired of them reusing RtDL for a third fucking game.
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>>337956793
I literally slapped that together in two seconds in mspaint and people are actually using it as a meme
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>>337956813
>Best Kirby villain
Not by a long shot.
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>>337956287
But some of the "triangle to cutscene" commands were also great. Like those tiny opportunities why fighting Larxene where you could combine all her clones to stop the bullshit for a few seconds, or removing Axel's Fie floor of death, or something like the Samurai Nobodies and their duels.
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>>337956897
You'll fit in better here >>r/cuckoldcommunity
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>>337927506
>GameSpot complains when the games are too hard
>IGN complains when the games are too easy
>Undertale is the pinnacle of video games
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>>337956980
Good for you, it's not our fault you ignore good games based on a style.
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Talking about bad reviews, anybody got the SMT IV reviews image?
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>>337957081
>or something like the Samurai Nobodies and their duels.
oh those were fantastic, but those were gameplay changing ones, not cutscenes.

Some of the cutscene ones are fine if theyre brief and cool looking.
Bad ones are more like the Twilight Thorn ones.
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>>337956980
See what you and the other NSMB haters don't seem to get is that all these games have generally differing artistic themes for backgrounds, and the models are staying similar in style because that is the model used for said character or enemy. Want to know why Kirby and Mario keep the same looks? because that is the look they were going for the entire time, and the same look they always will go for.
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>>337957198
WAKE ME UP
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>>337956813
>>337957028
Hi
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>>337956813
I seriously doubt that's who they're referring to.
Also implying.

>>337956837
It just depends. Usually attack, but yeah, even running around a pole to do a DMC3-esque spinning attack or Gliding into something would work.

>>337956897
It can refer to lots of things.

>>337957014
Well it's pretty succinct - nice work!
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>>337956980
>GAMES CAN'T BE GOOD BECAUSE THEY LOOK THE SIMILAR!
Jesus christ fuck off.
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>>337957372
>I seriously doubt that's who they're referring to.
see>>337951315
>>337951441
>>337951929
>>337952187
>>337955146
and >>337955897
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>>337957321

>haters


The games are shit because they have bad level design and simplistic gameplay made redundant by the non-existent difficulty. The art direction is the least of there concerns.
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>>337957323
Thanks anon. Was missing this one on my "reasons to never trust metacritic" folder.
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>>337957323
>The demon laughed at me, called me stupid, and bit me in the face killing me
Never gets old.
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>>337957252
That's what I mean, though. I feel like Reaction Commands were a good addition ,and most of them were well done. Sure, some were stupid or overused, sure. For instance, the Dusks didn't really need to let me slide behind them, I can dodge roll just fine. And of course the fight against the two elemental Heartless in Agrabah was stupid (just dodge and spam reaction command to watch the same cutscene over and over, then win). But the majority of them were just little things that added to the game, or made you pay attention in fights to win.
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>>337927506
Well,l the game really is way too easy for it's own good. Wouldn't give it a 6 though, it's a solid 8 at least.
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>>337957335
holy fucking shit that image is unnerving. the fairy girl looks like she is going to piss her pants in shock. and that is all fanart of a fucking pink puffball.
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>>337956980

>comparing NSMB to RtDL-TD-PR
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>>337957372
>Usually attack, but yeah, even running around a pole to do a DMC3-esque spinning attack or Gliding into something would work.
That seems like its more succeptable to doing something accidentally than just having a dedicated button for it. Especially when that button is unused anyway.

Hell, you can see an example of that in KH3D with how easy it is to accidentally activate flowmotion.
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>>337957597
>they have bad level design and simplistic gameplay made redundant by the non-existent difficulty.
I hope you aren't talking about the NSMB games, because if so none of that is true.
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Is this the thread where we post examples of why game reviews should NEVER be taken seriously?

>"Amazingly, Halo 4 is not only a success, but the best Halo yet and a bar-raising triumph for the entire first-person shooter genre. And just how new developer 343 Industries has done it will surprise, delight, and excite you."
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>>337957597
>The games are shit because they have bad level design and simplistic gameplay made redundant by the non-existent difficulty.
Said by people who haven't played the games.
I think the only NSMB game that has less than stellar gameplay is 2.
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>>337957323
>an OST that is easily forgotten as a standalone piece

Out of all the awful, retarded quotes in that image, that one gets me the most. Fuck that noise.
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>>337957323
The thing is I am not that much of a fan of SMT4 but every one of those quotes want to make me punch them in the face.
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>>337956980
Because this screams "NSMB"
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>>337957818
It's completely true, you're just too stupid and emotionally invested in nintendo to notice, or maybe just really terrible at video games like most fags in a kirby thread would be.
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>>337957806
That's why the environment shouldn't really be used, unless it's specifically gimmicked.

More to enemy attacks.
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>>337957905
Same, that one is just flat out wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc
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>>337929986
DSP is right that IGN's reviewing process is completely fucked and corrupt suckling at the teat of each big release, but Mitch is right that it shouldn't be a reviewer's concern whether his review hurts a game. DSP is wrong in that there's literally no such thing as an objective review, it's always going to have the author's opinions; however, he's right in that it's hardly fair for a game to get shafted because someone who pretty clearly subjectively didn't like it wrote the site's review.

The problem here is stemming from the way the industry fetishizes review scores to begin with, and how they cling on to the word of a flawed website like IGN because they're big.
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>>337958003
how the fuck can a pink ball be THIS badass
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>>337958003
Kirby of Murder!
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>>337957537
Again, I don't keep up with that crap, nor care. Thanks though.
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>>337958087
Im pretty good at video games though, I can get to world 3-4 without using the warp zone
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Why do people still expect Nintendo's main franchise games to not be piss easy? It's practically a selling point by now.
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>>337958087
>It's completely true
And you're basing it on what exactly? Because it certainly isn't the games because they go against all of your previous statements.

Seems like you just judge a book by it's cover or couldn't cut the first area and dropped it.
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>>337931580
>tfw you will never be a game designer for a laid back studio that does nothing but shit out licensed cartoon games for literal toddlers where the quality literally does not matter.
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>>337958087
>It's completely true
It's really not at all. You're just too stupid and emotionally invested against Nintendo to notice.

Any platforming fan knows that the NSMB games have excellent level design, and when it comes down to it, they are simply better designed and more difficult than any other Mario game except maybe SMB3. Definitely not as hard as NSMB2 (JP), but you wouldn't know anything about that becuase you're a fucking casual.
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>>337958003
>this isn't even the final phase
I was giddy when it happened
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>>337958003
Nice cinematic
How's the game?
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>>337958278
I don't know why people still expect them to be good. Nintendrones are truly the manlets of gaming. They never learn.
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>>337958451
Better than Super Star Ultra
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>the only Kirby game I've enjoyed was Super Star Ultra for the DS

Other than that, the series has never really captured my interest. I'm not sure how you guys can enjoy every Kirby game when games lie Squeak Squad and Rainbow Curse exist. They're so boring. Maybe I'm just not the target audience.

Rainbow Curse had some great ass fucking music, though.
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>>337958164
Don't ever fuck with anything Kirby cares about.
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>>337946562
>Heart shaped barriers
>Giant cartoon googly eyes on an enemy that is just a sphere

Eating enemies to get their powers is cool but everything I've ever seen of Kirby games has completely failed to spark even a tiny amount of interest. I dunno, maybe I dont have the nostalgia of it from elementary school.

Air ride looked fun, but that's because it was a cart racer.
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>>337958278
See here?
This is a trap everyone.

You bring up a comparison to a non-nintendo game or say otherwise you call a bunch of shitposters who use the
>B-but X company
or
>NINTENDRONE
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>>337958278
FE is a major IP now and Fates is literally one of the hardest FE games to best since FE4
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>>337958604
>Defeats Darkness itself for a slice of fucking Stawberry Shortcake
>Still doesnt get the cake afterwords
>Kirby's face when
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>>337958720
Shhh, don't say anything positive about Fates on /v/. They'll kill you for saying good things about Nintendo.
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>>337958574
Eh, Kirby is a nice chill out an relax game for the most part.
Not too hard but not too easy that you need to stop focusing, you know?

Plus the music is always top notch even in the less than stellar games.

Kirby is always deepest lore bait too.
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>>337958003
is he just a pure ball of bubblegum pink muscle?
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>>337958369
>And you're basing it on what exactly?

The level design and gameplay mechanics.

>>337958430
>Any platforming fan knows that the NSMB games have excellent level design, and when it comes down to it, they are simply better designed and more difficult than any other Mario game except maybe SMB3

anyone with a three digit IQ and elementary knowledge of game design knows otherwise.
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>>337958869
I FUCKING LOVE NINTENDO AND SONY WILL NEVER EVER GET THEIR FIRST PARTY TITLES
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>>337958720
FE4 isn't even hard you fucking pleb.
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>>337958604
>>337958726
!!!!
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>>337958913
>anyone with a three digit IQ and elementary knowledge of game design knows otherwise.
You seem to have that backwards. "Otherwise" would imply that what I said was wrong.

What you meant to type was: "Anyone with a three digit IQ and elementary knowledge of game design knows that".
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>>337959040
Fucking niggers stealing shit
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>>337958692
I didn't mention any game or company besides Nintendo. How is that making a comparison? I didn't even say that Nintendo games being really easy (for the most part) is a bad thing. A lot of people like that, and that's fine. It's like being surprised at downgrades. There is no reason not to expect it at this point in the industry.

>>337958720
That's a good point, I forgot behind all the waifu shit in the recent ones those games are pretty unforgiving. Probably cause that's all everyone ever talks about is "whos best girl" and shit like that. It's a shame.

If only they weren't determined to kill metroid
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>>337959091
classic nintendrone, changing reality to match your headcanon.
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>all this mental gymnastics being done by Nintendo fans
It's a shitty game, deal with it.
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>>337927653
True arena.
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>>337959262
upvoted
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>>337958726
>immediately goes after Dedede for the Cake
>Dedede's face when
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>>337959262
They would rather buy it, convince themselves it's perfect, shill it, and never notice the decline in quality of nintendo products since the release of the WII.
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>>337927506
Jose Onterro is a huge nintendrone. Like the defination of a drone man child. He really loves nitendo products. If the game in his opinion is a 6 in all honesty its prolly a 4.
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>>337959242
Sorry anon, but there's no waking up from your nightmare where Nintendo's games are better than the shlock you're playing.
Know why?
Because this is reality. Video games are going down the toilet because no one actually wants video games, they want "experiences" and story that they don't want to play for. Which is where the term movie game comes from, where you get everything without putting in a modicum of effort.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

6.0. DOOMFAGS WIN AGAIN.
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>>337959262
It is indeed a shitty game, but they complain about the kind of shit they give another game a 10/10 for

I just don't understand why people bother to read these, all you should do is read the user reviews, at most because you can still find pretty retarded opinions there
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>>337958726
Naw more like this
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>YFW sonyggers will NEVER get a studio that actually cares about making video games
>NEVER EVER
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Reminder
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>>337958995
I never played mario or any of the games.

So i dont even care. Years ago when they anounced Zelda WindWaker HD i was interested.but when it came out it was just bloom filters and higher frame rates and the ability to sail faster.

Not that impressive compared to the Uncharted Collection and other HD remasters.
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>>337959864
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>>337960005
>Not that impressive compared to the Uncharted Collection
You mean the one that cut out a game mode for no reason other than to get you to buy the new one for it?

>other HD remasters.
Such as?
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>>337957887
No. Everything's about that is just...no.
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>>337927506
>a franchise that has since its inception been designed to be accessible to people and children who have literally never played a game
>knocking off points for being "too easy"

This is games journalism.

>>337928860
The NG+ mode is actually kind of fucked up
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>>337959864
Didnt microsoft buy retro?

The people who made Banjo And Kozie.
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This why I'll never forgive them.
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>>337929854
How do video game have "good days"
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>>337960226
Jak and Daxter rematsers were pretty good.
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>>337960562
That was Rare and most of their good workers left later on.
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>>337959724
not even trying to pretend you aren't a blatant nintendrone shill anymore. How fucking deluded are you that you think anything that isn't nintendo= "cinematic movie game"and any game that isn't "cinematic movie game" is inherently good?
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>>337960562
That's Rare, familia.
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>>337931176
um
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>>337960562
>Didnt microsoft buy retro?
youre thinking of rare
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>>337959563
Jose Oterro is funny as hell to read. His writing style is overly descriptive and he tries too hard to bring variation to his words. You can basically go along and pick out every word you know he thought sounded "educated".
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>>337958003
>one scene is a whole game

Face it, PR is recycled from TD is recycled from RtDL.

Nintendo's recycling so much, Al Gore gave them a medal.
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>>337959724
but this is exactly what kirby is, a game you can experience even if you were literally retarded.
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>>337960646
Lost Planet 2 is basically definition of a "flawed masterpiece". It had such a cool framework and concepts but there were so many issues and weird design choices.
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>>337960739
AND CAME BACK TO REVIVE 3-D PLATFORMING
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>>337960892
Like what?
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>>337960741
Oh boy
Are you so ignorant that you can't notice the trend of hyping up cinematics and prerendered cutscenes as opposed to the gameplay?
You should realise that there's something going on when they have to resort to tricking their players with that trash.

Also cinematic games are always bad if they don't make a good balance of cinematics and gameplay.
Stop thinking that everything is alright with the industry when the games aren't even the focus any more.

Not even Sonyggers are as delusional as you are.
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>>337960852
Yes?
Video games reuse player character assets all of the time. Especially in this day and age where models are easy to adjust, you can see that in any game that has had a game since the PS3/Xbox/Wii era.

Or did you really think other developers created new assets for each follow-up game?
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>>337961161
I really hope you are underage. So caught up in console wars you don't even understand the question.
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>>337927506
Because shitty biased sites, that's why. If same game was an indie one, it would be Game Of The Year.
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>>337951315
>journalistic integrity
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>>337930310
Whats wrong with just saying story mode?
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>>337961626
This isn't even about console wars any more.
It's about your ignorance to the current situation.

This industry is going straight down the shitter and you're enabling it.
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>>337961454
Nintendo had previously. And it served to keep things from being boring.

And hey, credit where credit is due - MK8 and SM3DW use pretty new styles, so, good on them.

But then you've got shit like:
NSMB/Wii/2/U
RtDL/TD/PR
SSBB/SSB4

It really sucks the enjoyment out of the game.
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>>337961856
Well a campaign isn't always a story.
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>>337962017
and a story isn't always a campaign
whats your point?
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>>337961982
You mean like
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask?
I don't have a problem with reused assets as long as there a few new ones and the old ones are used in creative ways.

And if they look good, of course.
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>>337961982
>Nintendo had previously.
So did everyone else at the time. You have to remember what age we're currently in.

Also you've listed games that had a change in overall style (albeit not musically for the NSMB series) for each iteration.
You can blatantly see that in the level assets for Kirby and Mario as well as the models in Smash 4.

It seems like you're just taking a quick glance, deeming them as the same and setting your own disappointment.
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>>337962334
And MM was a cool way of doing it.

>>337962518
I know what age we're currently in, and that doesn't matter. These games are the equivalent of Michael Bay movies.

There might be some changes to the stage elements and whatnot, but the main styling of the models and the overall designs are very nearly identical, and it's boring.

No, you're excusing Nintendo's laziness bar-none and setting up your own contentedness.
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>>337959429
>filename
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>>337962997
Nintendo games take long enough to make as it is now, due to HD development. You want to wait even longer for every single game. when other devs reuse assets as well?
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>Game is too easy
>Game is too hard
>Game is never just right

Does any reviewer even like platformers? Are they all Jeff Gertsmann and think Yoshis Island is garbage?
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>>337962997
>These games are the equivalent of Michael Bay movies.
Elaborate.
Oh yeah and we're in the age where developers can't waste time remaking the same models again and again, it would only serve to hurt the length of the game as well as the quality of it.

>There might be some changes to the stage elements and whatnot, but the main styling of the models and the overall designs are very nearly identical, and it's boring.
That's because they're the same character with a very simple design, there's nothing else you can really do to the character that wouldn't make them look gaudy or terrible like the Brawl style especially when it comes to Kirby who's just a pink orb, there's not much you can do to his style even if you made a new model.
Speaking of Brawl you can see the clear differences in style between Smash 4 when it comes to the character models so this complaint doesn't actually apply to Smash 4.

>No, you're excusing Nintendo's laziness bar-none and setting up your own contentedness.
>excusing
Don't take that route anon. You were supposed to be the kind of person that doesn't use the "laziness" cop out.
Especially since when I say this I'm not talking specifically about Nintendo. Models are made to be reused and rarely have changes across the board not due to laziness but due to the fact they can not waste time remaking these models for each subsequent game, all they can to is change the textures.
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>>337962997
So wait, is your only problem with Nintendo that they do what everyone else does?

You do realize that if developers didn't reuse assets games would take several years to come out right?
What's up with people holding Nintendo to these impossible standards?
>>
>Too easy as a bad thing
>This is from the same website that gave God Hand a bad score for being too hard

what
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Damn, even I know this review's a joke.
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>its a "B-BUT IT'S GOOOOOOOD!" thread

Do nintendorks can't accept that Nintendo makes bad or mediocre games from time to time?
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>>337928975
>Yoshua
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>>337963849
>>337964020
>>337964295
Then increase the number of people working on models or get better software.

>>337964020
I didn't say level of detail, I said STYLE. Even beyond the brightened up, colored up character models, the game still has that dull feel to it. Not nearly the zany colors and action of 64. Or even something different than what Brawl was.

Also,
>HD
>implying Nintendo's models are equally or more complex compared to the AAA studios

Delusional. If you're so adamant on "the standard to which Nintendo is held," then give me the cost numbers, man hours, and other stats.

I don't have them, I don't have to have them - I'm saying that the reuse of the assets (which is both evident and has been admitted) is decreasing my enjoyment of the game, and I don't have to have numbers for that.
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>>337965091
scroll up
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>>337927810
I'm actually impressed he didn't go full "the story wasn't deep enough" and tried to hide it behind that sentence
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>>337965245
>implying Nintendo's models are equally or more complex compared to the AAA studios
We dont want advanced models
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>>337927506

Kirby has always been boring, casual shit.
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>>337928497
>tfw reviewers actually like walking simulators

No wonder Uncharted 4 is getting such rave reviews when it's objectively worse than 2 by a fair margin.
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>>337965245
>Then increase the number of people working on models or get better software.
All that would to is cost the company more than it would speed up games.

>I didn't say level of detail, I said STYLE.
Yes?
The games all have differing style AND detail to them.
I'm not sure what you want here any more because they're giving exactly what you're saying you want and you're not accepting it.

>>implying Nintendo's models are equally or more complex compared to the AAA studios
Of course they aren't, well, that is if you don't include Pokemon.
The difference is that Nintendo puts more effort into level and stage design to give the player differing environments and style than the last game.
That's where that extra effort is going into.
Also they don't require extremely high poly models because they're basic designs. Just like I said with Kirby there's nothing you can do that wouldn't ruin it.

>I'm saying that the reuse of the assets (which is both evident and has been admitted) is decreasing my enjoyment of the game
Then why are you even here?
Nearly every developer nowadays reuses their assets for each and every game most without even changing the look of the character. Why isn't it affecting your enjoyability there? Especially when they use the same generic environments as opposed to something a bit more colorful and varied in design.
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>>337965624
>we

We!
WE!
WE WHO, MOTHERFUCKER, WE WHO?
DO YOU SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE GAMING MARKET? ARE YOU THE GAME POPE, ALL OF A SUDDEN?

BECAUSE SONY'S AND MICROSOFT'S CONSOLES ARE OUTSELLING THE WII U MULTIPLE TIMES OVER, AND PEOPLE ARE LOVING THE GRAPHICS JUMP, EVEN IF IT'S NOT A HUGE JUMP OVER THE LAST GEN.

And don't EVEN claim to speak for the Nintendo fans, because as nice as the details on MK8 and Smash4 were, they're STILL lacking.

So you can cut that self-righteous "we" crap.
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>>337966693
We really dont
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>>337927506
Kirby has been easy since the beginning
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>>337928497
THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE RIGHT

PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE
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>>337928975

Why is IGN rating a children's cartoon? Fuckin hell, an 8 for that meme-filled garbage that'll be dated in like a year? The original PPG didn't rely on that shit even tho pop culture references and memes, even if they weren't called them, certainlly existed during its runtime.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWPwy4dL6AE

>Forgettable
I bet they did not even finish the game
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>>337927653
The POINT of Kirby is that it's easy. The games were made specifically because they felt at the time video games were getting too hard and newcomers had no way to get into it.
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>>337966693
Isn't it a bit hypocritical to talk like you're the majority here when berating someone who says he's speaking for most Nintendo fans?

Also the reason that Sony and Microsoft are selling well is because they have the multiplats that's all the casual crowd recognizes and wants. If you haven't noticed the first party software they produce has sold embarrassing numbers compared to their past games and Nintendo's current.

Oh and just because certain developers and fans are loving the graphical "leap" it doesn't mean that the gameplay should be forgotten over it, which is what's happening in the current day. Even Uncharted 4 is worse than their earlier iterations and don't get me started on games like Fallout.

Anyway, not only do we not want it, but we don't NEED it. They've reached a plateau where they can't improve it without doing a complete redesign and changing recognizable characters or taking a R&C route of making a large vibrant world with nothing in it other than dumb cannon fodder.

But you know what, it's nice to know where your priorities lie when it comes to video games, kindly fuck off from this board because this pasttime isn't for you anymore.
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>>337928497
There's nothing wrong with that image.
If you are a person who enjoys walking simulators then that's the conclusion you'll come to:
Firewatch is a better walking simulator than Alien Isolation.

Alien Isolation is a mess of nonsense that couldn't stick to one genre.
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>>337928645
As someone that actually does play shit like Call of Duty and whatnot, Kirby Triple Deluxe is brain dead, disappointing levels of easy if you're not a wee child.

I understand that Kirby is pretty close to a legitimate babygame being ridiculously easy unless you go for bonus content, but still.
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>>337966691
Increase the price. Hell, the amiibo should have covered that, at least this once.

No, not quite. The change was so minute, it was still a repeat.

Doubt that, highly. Only game that might buck that is Planet Robobot.

Because I still want to play a Nintendo game, damn it! And I would far prefer to enjoy it and it not feel like a slog through, and part of that is making it visually fresh.

And if Nintendo can't do that any more, I'll spend my money elsewhere.
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>>337967717
The problem is that they shouldn't be letting their opinion get in the way of their review, they should be rating it in an objective way so readers know if it's something they want to get into or not.

If they absolutely have to shove and opinion in somewhere leave it in a "my personal views" paragraph.
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>>337968010
>Increase the price.
Are you insane? People already complain that Nintendo's items are over priced and you want them to charge more before showing people the changes?

>Hell, the amiibo should have covered that, at least this once.
The amiibo probably covered the initial losses of the Wii U.

>No, not quite. The change was so minute, it was still a repeat.
Okay what game are you talking about right now exactly?
Because each of those games have changes that you can see upon starting the game, what exactly do you want?

>Doubt that, highly. Only game that might buck that is Planet Robobot.
Okay I'm not even sure what part of the post you're replying to here, it would help if you had the quoted text, that is what it's there for after all.

>And I would far prefer to enjoy it and it not feel like a slog through, and part of that is making it visually fresh.
Define "visually fresh". Do you want a hyper detailed world or something exactly different than the last iteration in terms of design, colors etc?
I want to pin point what your problem is now.

>And if Nintendo can't do that any more, I'll spend my money elsewhere.
I doubt you're going to find a company that'll cater to your whims, especially when the rest are using generic worlds that you could see if you went outside.
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>>337927506
>April 2014
You can't be fucking serious.
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>>337966812
Again, you're one person.
And not in the Target Market.

>>337967459
I really should, seeing as having standards is just asking for disappointment, any more.
But every time I feel like leaving, some ignorant, disparaging pussy like you comes along, and I'm one of the dying breed that'll put you and your ilk where you belong.
So fuck you, I'm staying. This is my damned hobby, you're factually not a "we," and you still haven't brought any numbers to garner any kind of sympathy for Nintendo who could be jewing us for all we know OR to even prove your assertion.
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>>337928418
Rapp slept with Jose?
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>>337968072
re-read my post.

There's nothing more objective than looking at what a game was trying to accomplish and then judging it on how well it did that.

Both games try to be walking simulators. Alien Isolation is a worse walking simulator than Firewatch.
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>>337968824
I like colorful characters with personality.
Fuck you and your "realism" and watch some movies instead.
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>>337927506
Neo Nintendo
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>>337968708
People bitched about the cost of gallons of gasoline, or amiibo, but bought them, anyway.

Touche.

SSB4, go compare that to Brawl.

Sorry you can't follow a line break, retard.
Planet Robobot is using the mechanized gimmick, so we might actually see interesting environments this time around to make up for the recycled garbage.

Depends on the game!

I'm well aware of that, but again, Nintendo's reused worlds are becoming just as boring.
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>>337969206
?

You can have increased detail and still be visually fun, you know.
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>>337959269
an extra mode that any and all "game journalists" will never get to because arena was "too hard"?
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>>337968824
>I really should, seeing as having standards is just asking for disappointment, any more.
There's a difference between having standards and not knowing what a video game needs. You're one of those people that have been sucked into "wow great graphics" joke of this generation without realising the degredation of the actual gameplay portion.
Of course I'm not saying that games can't look good just that it shouldn't take precedence. Ideally they should be making their own style rather than trying to get as realistic as possible.

>But every time I feel like leaving, some ignorant, disparaging pussy like you comes along, and I'm one of the dying breed that'll put you and your ilk where you belong.
You are aware that you can just walk away from the compute and let people enjoy what they enjoy right?
I mean, it's very clear that you don't enjoy these kinds of games any more so why bother making a vain attempt at ruining it for other people?

>you're factually not a "we," and you still haven't brought any numbers to garner any kind of sympathy for Nintendo who could be jewing us for all we know OR to even prove your assertion.
As opposed to you who are just making bold faced assumptions anyway you can just view the content and design in their games if you want.
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>>337931231
He's on point quite a bit. It's just that he fucking sucks at videogames.
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>>337958003
For all the shit Kirby gets for being kid friendly, he really is hardcore.
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>>337969284
>People bitched about the cost of gallons of gasoline, or amiibo, but bought them, anyway.
Gasoline is going to rise because it's a finite substance anon.
As for Amiibo you got me there but people most likely just bought them for the merch of characters that don't usually get any that and they got fairly cheap later on, at least outside of America they did.

>SSB4, go compare that to Brawl.
Both games had differing styles, designs and detail outside of the legacy stages for obvious reasons. But don't think the game is predominantly legacy stages.

>Sorry you can't follow a line break, retard.
Thing is you said something that doesn't really match up to anything.
> so we might actually see interesting environments this time around to make up for the recycled garbage.
We've seen the game already, just like TD before it the environments and enemies are different.

>Depends on the game!
That doesn't exactly answer the questions here anon.

>Nintendo's reused worlds are becoming just as boring.
>worlds
The worlds being different in each game even NSMB castles and towers look different in each game.
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>>337970182
>people completely forgot about Zero
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>>337970182
A reminder that this shit bumped up the collection's rating.

https://youtu.be/8dhsIB2z5hk?t=10m40s
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>Best girl will never return cuz "not human" rule
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>>337958003
>You think is over
>Suddenly, it goes soul
>YFW
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>>337971307
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>>337971438
I want to cum inside Sue
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>>337971546
>Good taste
>On /v/
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What's up with that eye, is dark matter involved in this?
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>>337971793
Fourth game in the RtDL series introduces us to mirror Zero with Dark Metaknight willingly being possessed by a cloned Dark Matter essentially making it whole
Magolor was possessed by a remnant of the original dark matter.
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>>337972316
deepest lore
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>>337931297
>all it does is show you are a shooter faggot
Fuck, I thought I got that from RTSs.
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>>337972363
Galacta knight is actually a future Kirby who was lost in time due to a future adventure winding up in the present day.
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>>337935947
>infinite power
Kirby is powered by a ps3
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>>337972752
>ps3
for some reason I immediately thought of the creepy baby ps3 ad
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>>337972943
The finger following Kirby in the Canvas Curse ad came from the creepy baby.
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>>337973324
pls no
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>>337928975
haven't watched the new Powerpuff Girls. Is it really that bad?
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>>337973274
>the art direction is very appealling, though a bit immature for the game's content
>baby game
>mature
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>>337973448
Idk do you like epic 2008 memes?
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>>337973448
Yeah it's very bland
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>>337973448
WHICH IS REAL AND WHICH IS A FAN PARODY
YOU DECIDE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43mylyGw7A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81I9bdASo4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfO-i77-_oU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Vla_oh0Uo
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>>337961870
>This industry is going straight down the shitter and you're enabling it.

That irony though.
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