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I thought this was just going to be a fun game about rescuing
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I thought this was just going to be a fun game about rescuing your daughter from weird perverts...
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the game has a lot of funny moments, but i thought it was pretty obvious from beginning that the overall tone of the game was dark as hell
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>>337915497
>He fell for Marty's 'redemption'
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If you are enjoying Painful DO NOT PLAY JOYFUL
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>>337915497
Marty deserved it desu
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>>337915497
Thats exactly what you're doing.
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>yfw joyful final bosses
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The demo was way happier, I wish the non-painful mode was like that; would have made painful that much sweeter.
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Marty was the reason Brad's life was nothing but suffering, you shouldn't feel bad for him.
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>>337915813
>my fucking face when the only good thing about Joyful (bosses) weren't even fucking expanded upon
yeah fuck that piece of shit
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>Brad adopted Dusty and had his chance to be a real father to him
>Abandons and forgets him after Lisa kills herself
>Dusty/Rando doesn't hold the same hatred towards Brad that Brad does towards Marty
>Even tries to stop Brad from fighting more

The first time you meet him after you hit him with a bike, I just thought the "you can see tears under his mask" line was just a joke because he was actually really hurt from the bike crash.
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>>337916096
I wish it was.
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>>337916096

Dusty/Rando doesn't hold the same hatred towards Brad that Brad does towards Marty

Brad didn't beat Dusty or force him to rape/beat someone he loved.
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HUH

HUH

HUH

HUH
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>>337915813
> I didn't get on that list by being a Goddamn pussy. I'm #2 in the world. You want my spot? Try and take it, bitch."
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>Get to the end of the game where you have to fight your party
>Terry doesn't want to fight you
>Birdie doesn't want to fight you
>RT says he never liked you in the first place
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>yfw soup's on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs

The only good thing about Joyful was the new music and some of the boss fights.
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>>337916957
>Rage says he never liked you
>Still cries
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>>337915813
>Dusty's Dead
>He's my Dad
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>Master Armstrong ple-please. We don't need to fff-fff-fight. She is...the future...
>She's just a kid

Brad did nothing wrong and Rando did nothing wrong.
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What game? Looks interesting
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>>337918020
Lisa: The Painful
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>>337918103
Nice. Imma try it. Thank you anon
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>>337916296
>Brad didn't beat Dusty or force him to rape/beat someone he loved.
Yeah.
He did that to Buddy.
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>>337918103
>bitch wife
>not stupid potato bitch of a wife
>god rest her soul
That insult is the standout line of the game
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>>337915750
>>337915916
>>337915624

Fucking retards.

Marty was looking after Buddy. He did some absolutely horrible things but to say he deserved to die is to literally agree with a completely drugged out Brad in the process of becoming a mutant, especially when Marty was PROTECTING THE OBJECT OF BRAD'S AFFECTION FROM THE OUTSIDE in those moments.


You can't call any fucking thing edgy if you're a moron who thinks it was good that Marty died.

I'm definitely mad.
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>>337918410
>Marty was PROTECTING THE OBJECT OF BRAD'S AFFECTION
Buddy was doing the protecting desu
:^)
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>>337918410
As much as Marty was a piece of shit, everyone in the end kind of was at some point in their lives. Whether they redeemed themselves in the end or not, no one was innocent except Rando, he did just about nothing wrong
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>>337918410
Anon, Lisa was abused to fuck by Marty. Have you forgoten it was Lisa who made Bernard into Buzzo aswell, all of it caused by Marty not keeping it in his pants and raping his underage daughter?

A abusive, alcoholic father who rapes his children has no redemption anon. None, especially from his son who he also caused such massive psychological damage he needs to drug himself constantly just to forget him and his abandonment of Lisa since he couldn't take her when he left the house. Brad is a broken man, someone who never tried to get a girl because he though he wasn't worth it, someone who went out of a abusive household to teach kids to defend themselves because he couldn't, and despite his good intentions, he still fucked up, all because of Marty's massive fuckup at attempting to be a father.

You don't defend Marty anon, cause he ain't worth defending. He would have done the same to Buddy anon, I fucking guarantee you.
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I can't remember these details, someone fill me in;

How did the world turn into a wasteland?

What was up with the McDonalds guy, his followers and his location?

I only got as far as the joy mutant town thingy with those broken down houses. What was that place?
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>>337916957
A lot of people talk about Terry, but nobody ever mentions Percy

This guy was a lame wimp all his life and he knows it. When he stands up to you it's partially because he wants to help the world and partially because he's never done anything worthwhile in his life

I can't help but feel bad for him.
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>>337919081
>all because of Marty's massive fuckup at attempting to be a father.

Except he was being a pretty good father for the few days of watching over Buddy. There's no way to telll whether or not he would've done anything to Buddy in the end, but he seemed as though he was just as drunk as he usually was, judging by all the bottles, and yet he still seemed concerned for her well being.

After Lisa killed herself, he possibly changed for real, especially considering he says it in his dying breath.

He deserved death after what he had caused to his children, but, like Brad, he probably was looking for his "second chance" with Buddy, and he seemed to be doing it well. There's just no way to tell. After all, both Brad AND Marty seemed to have good times with Buddy.
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>>337918879
He did do something wrong though. He did nothing
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>>337919482
>How did the world turn into a wasteland?
Its unclear how. It was the "White Flash" or whatever, so most likely some sort of new weapon.
>What was up with the
The guy was a rotting mutant or something and used his peeling flesh to feed the people worshipping him as a infinite giver of food.
>What was that place?
Exactly what you said what it was. Town filled with joy mutants. Its not especially "important" but its close to the original Joy laboratory, so most likely it was one of the first places to get overrun by the mutants.
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>>337919482
1. No one knows, Dingaling himself probably doesn't either

2. Possibly an insane man who used the meat from Mike/Satan as his food to give to people, or an odd joy mutant with conflicting desires

3. Old homes that were close to the Joy labs
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>>337919503
What does he do if he's in your party and you battle him?
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>>337919704
Get real anon, he might have though to change, but look at Brad. Even when presented the chance of a lifetime, a chance at redemption, the most precious thing in olathe to protect an give him meaning, he cracked, went on a joy and booze fest and left her out there, free to be kidnaped.

Marty would not have changed for real, he was a isolated old man in a remote island, drunk to shit and with a litle girl. He is just like Brad, except Marty would ever go to the extents Brad has, even if he could. He would just crack yet again, and repeat his mistakes, despite him having no real reason to he just would, because he never changed, he just couldn't do what he did anymore.

Face the truth, good for a couple days, but he would eventually degrade into the fuckup he once was, no doubt about it.
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>>337919928
>>337919875
Ok, sweet, makes a lot more sense now.

I kind of feel bad for killing the McDonalds guy now.
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>>337919482
Supposedly, Biodome, since time and weather are fucked up. Yado himself says Olathe is perfect for his world, so the white flash was likely some sort of town scale flashbang.

Wally likely murdered a fuckton of people to feed some random fucks and be considered a god. In he wasteland, the guy with the food and water beats the fuck out of the guys with guns and massive sexual frustration.

Oh, the nice neighborhood. Likely a controlled experiment on the effects of Joy on a small scale, likely he just isolated these guys and forcefed them joy and watched. Yado gets his dick real hard with joy mutants.
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>>337920306
If he was just really fucked up joy mutant, its only a matter of time before he goes actually mindless and starts to kill the worshippers.
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>>337919482
Im pretty sure Wally was a mutant using his own flesh to make food
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reinstalling now

Also the soundtrack is amazing.
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>>337919482
What I really want to know is what was up with that pale joy mutant plastered to the wall of the basement in the Happy Village. I don't think there was a way to get to him, and you could only see him from a neighboring area.
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>>337920153
Well anon, I think you are too convinced that Marty would revert back to his old self with Lisa. He did feel bad, his fight dialogue with brad showed he didn't want any of this to happen. I don't think he deserved forgiveness, but he was trying.
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>>337920153
Redemption is a journey, nigga, not a destination.
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>>337922091
Am I really?Someone who becomes a child rapist, to his own daughter and son just because their wife left, not to mention the physical abuse, isn't exactly what I would consider someone capable of redemption.

He was a absolutely horrible person anon. The only thing that made him even try to redeem himself was not being able to do so, or do you think people grow a conscience all of a sudden after willingly doing horrible shit for years? He only tried to be good because he had nothing else to do.
>>337923342
So what anon, approximately 12 years of not fucking his daughter and going to a remote island and getting drunk alone somehow are a journey to make you get a conscience after raping your daughter constantly, never mind the physical abuse to both his daughter and son? He has had no journey, he had no destination, he deserved to be mauled to death by his mentally and physically abused son, and just because he didn't rape a litle girl on sight does not mean he changed shit, it doesn't mean he changed at all, it means he stopped for a little while, not that he completely tried to amend his sins and had a change of heart.
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>>337924203
>or do you think people grow a conscience all of a sudden after willingly doing horrible shit for years
Things like that do happen, anon.
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>>337926067
So someone who willingly decided to rape his daughter and possibly even his son/forcing him to rape his daughter, insults him at every possible moment, beats the shit out of likely both, and only now, after the world has gone to shit, does he even try to not rape little girls on sight, despite him still drinking like a fucking madman.

Sorry anon, now this might be entering into personal ideoloy, but anyone who knew what they were doing was abominable at the least and still did it, for years, not even on a flimsy excuse, they never change, they were and will always be scum, scum who will not be missed when brutally killed, but their deaths will be very much appreciated.
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>>337920306
To be fair, he was begging for death.
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>>337916957
Killing Birdie was one of the hardest things I had to do in that game.
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Who were your 3 /v/?

Nern, Bo, Carp

Hardest part of the game. Dingaling fucking nailed it with the music. That song is perfect.
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>>337915646
I beat Painful months ago and for some reason never got around to Joyful despite loving Painful.

Is Joyful that bad? Doesn't it expand on the characters and the world?
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>>337928949
It does and it wraps up the story decently, but the gameplay isn't that great.
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I liked Joyful, fuck everyone who said it was bad.

One thing about Buddy's face

>go through cave
>see Sticky's weird dad in a cave? He asks for money? Finds it weird when you give him porn?
>he shows up later to scratch Buddy's face?

Is/was he a hallucination? He can't be because he really scratched Buddy's face, but how did he get to the island? Just questions I have I guess
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Don't play Joyful, m8. It's trash.
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>>337929174
In the cave he was a hallucination. Brad's joy addiction/withdrawal leads to various hallucinations in the game.

The Mr. Angoneli you see on the island who scratches Buddy's face is the real one who has survived so far on Olathe. It's unknown how he got to Randoland.
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>>337929015
That's it? So everyone mentioning Joyful is just whining about the gameplay?
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>>337929531
The music is also more forgettable (except 666 Kill Chop Deluxe), and the story isn't as impactful. A lot of people who don't like it don't like the direction the story went as well as some of the big twists.

The ending makes up for it IMO. The scene with Brad drove me to fucking tears.
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>>337929531
Pretty much yeah. Its just not as good as Painful, but still pretty decent. It's also a lot harder most of the time if you leave instakills out of the equation.
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>>337929746
Chop Kill isn't even that good compared to Dandy Boy and Air Raid.

At the start of the game when Brad's all fucked up monster man I was like "oh shit dude what happened man what HAPPENED TO YOU DUDE" with tears in my eyes, and the ending, it still makes me sad.

That being said Buddy ate complete shit after like one turn and was dead during the entire opening sequence so when Rando was like "ur pretty gud" I was like "NO! NO I'M NOT!"
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>>337929531
It ruins buddy's character (for me at least) and is overall not as good.
Still pretty decent though and ties up the story ok.
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>>337929746
>forgettable music
#1 would like to have a word with you and send you to hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWHxy2nFW4k
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>>337918410
Some people are irredeemable.
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>>337930317
>Terry Bogard
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How old is Buddy anyways?
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>>337929531
Well, considering the fact it has a non-existent story aside from the first and last 20 minutes, and considering the fact said story is a really bad rushed and poorly built conclusion to the series that basically skewers every character that had any depth in the previous game, I'd say that's a pretty good reason.
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>>337930370

> this image

no, fuck lisa

fucking bitch is the root of all evil

> tfw sweetheart is probably her daughter or some other super fucked up shit
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>>337929531
Joyful's gameplay isn't bad, it's just ridiculously repetitive and simple.

Everything else is great though. Dingaling stepped up his music, you can really tell that he learned a lot about composition compared to the painful. The writing's great too, and it wraps up all the loose ends well.

The gameplay's just tediously repetitive.
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>>337927297
>Mfw my final party was Birdie, Ajeet, and Olan
>Their lines
>Ajeet: We have to protect our futures. And after this our children's futures... It should never be about one man. His people come first. This is the lesson you need to be taught.
>Birdie: Aaah Hell... I guess this is it eh? One last drink for the workin' man.
>Olan: ... Sorry... But you can't do this. She is our future. ... I'm going to miss drinking with you...
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>>337930317

>graves for ever
>all the people that come to challenge him, still gives them all a proper burial
>walk into his domicile, light flickers on, no memes just straight into kicking your ass
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>Implying Lisa isn't Sweetheart
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>>337930317
>>337931541
Big Lincoln had such a fucking great build-up.
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>>337932181
But Dongalong said it wasn't.

https://twitter.com/Dingalinggames/status/692193602542419970
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>>337932181
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Will Ninja Tears be good?
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>>337932295
>>337932709
Fuck, that's disappointing. Everything suggests it's her. The black hair covering her eyes, her white shirt, her long, crooked neck (suggesting death through hanging) and her motivation to protect Buddy from harm/rape. It makes sense that a joy mutant Lisa would want to do that, given she was abused by men herself.
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>>337933217
no, ding's just recycling ideas now.

>balding man with beard trying to rekindle family life
literally the plot of LISA the painful

>retired ninja enforcer
>retired martial artist
literally brad
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>>337933217
Hope so. I'm gonna get it.
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>>337933403
brad's family fucked him up, this sounds like the other way around.
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>tfw Lisa will be fondly remembered as a cult classic in a decade
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>>337933379
Ding said that the true identity behind Sweetheart is more fucked up than lisa, and it should be obvious.

My theory is that Nancy and Buddy are completely different people, nothing blatantly links them together.

Nancy was probably another of of Yado's daughters, whom Yado turned into Sweetheart; hence why Yado says "Nancy, I'll use her", and Buzzo quickly objects. Yado's wife freed Buddy to spare her from the same fate as Nancy.
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>>337933403
Well it was fun while it lasted i guess..
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>>337933538
Same with undertale
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>>337933538
Feels good man
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>>337933538
Thats undertale.
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>>337916957
>mfw some party members don't even attack you
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>>337933538
You mean undertale
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>>337933750
>any party with terry and shocklord

Yeah I can't take this
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Soup's on, baby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs
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>>337933538
You're talking about Undertale right?
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>>337934052
What was his name again?
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>>337934094
I don't remember ever seeing that character
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>>337926645
You won't but I'm gonna recommend you read this book called the Bluest eye by toni morrison. It will probably annoy you with how it hits over the head stuff, but I presents a father raping his daughter from his point of view. You have sympathy for him, not compassion, but understanding.
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why LISA threads are so comfy?
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>>337920071
Dialogue:

This is my chance to do something with my life. I need this. The world needs this.

Attacks:
Percy is one of the few early-game characters who won't hold back in the final fight at all. He really wants to do something with his life, or die trying to.
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>>337934136
Gordon the Warm Miso
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>>337934184
You can only encounter him at a specific location for one minute of one day. It's October or something, there's a sign in the hotel that tells you about it.
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>>337934136
Jeremy the Steaming Stew
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>>337934136
George the Boiling Broth
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Does /v/ recommend this game?
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>>337934184

be grateful
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>>337934717
I do.
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>>337934717
Sure. Wait for the upcoming Steam sale though (unless you're a pirate)
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>>337934717
Yes.
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How do I make turn based combat interesting? Dial-a-combos were pretty cool, but what else is there?
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>>337934442
>sympathy for a child raping father
That has have to be either the best written bullshit you have ever read or you are just insane anon.

Sorry, but if its a book, specifically about a father who sexually abused his daughter, I will neither read it because of its content, and if did I read it, the last thing I would do is empathize or understand with him. Come the fuck on, is literally as simple as you keeping it in your pants and not fiddling your descendants, you do that sort of shit and you are scum.
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>>337916096
FOR FUCKS SAKE RANDO IS THE ONLY GOOD GUY IN OLATHE
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO FIGHT HIM
FUCKING BRAD
FUCKING BUZZO
AND FUUUUCK LISA
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best boy

dindu nuffin wrong


fuck buzzo
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>>337935179
Paper Mario TTYD style, inputs/timing that make attacks stronger and enemies attacks weaker.
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>>337935381
Fuck off Rando isn't pure, he helped Buddy murder the pacifist village, at the very least their leader, and the only good hernandez
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>>337935179
Enemy interaction.
Interactive battlefields.
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>>337935436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZ39dDyxZ8

Y-y-you really are the best...
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>>337935191
morality is a subjective thing, you talk like if you knew what is goodor bad in life
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>forgiving marty "man with the plan and white van" armstrong
Fuck him, I don't care if he "felt bad" for what he did, he deserved the worse and more.
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>>337935515
>pacifist village
>the moment you take off your mask, they're on you

Fuck you nigger
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>>337935717
plz anon, I can't take dis shit

I had a hard fuckin boohoo after the mask cracked off and the crying/scratching started
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>>337935869
>morality is subjective
Not when it comes to raping your own children.
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>>337935515
But he had the intention of protecting buddy, he had the future in mind.
Also, who is more powerful Rando or Big Lincon?
Rando seemed to have more territory than the other warlords, and more people too.
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>>337936086
I lost my shit when I had to fight my party. The Sacrrifice followed by Goodbye and Soft Flesh really tore into me.
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Who else here didn't cry a single time through Lisa?
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>>337935869
>He doesn't stick by his ideals and carry them on until objectively proven otherwise

Does it really matter if its subjective? I will enforce my view as I wish and transmit them as is, you can do otherwise, but I honestly doubt in many developed societies you wouldn't be kicked out or exiled for advocating father child rape is morally ambiguous or morally correct. Plus, in terms of genetics and shit, its kind of fucked up, not to mention kids usually are't made or developed to have kids anon, its generally despised for several reasons.
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>>337936139
in some cultures is not a bad thing
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Someone explain the guy on the island that puts Brad in a dress and makes him drink bleach
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>>337936217
I didn't cry. Just felt like shit for the next few days afterwards
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>>337928949
>>337929531
Nooooo don't play Joyful, its horseshit

listen to the soundtrack and be done with it. Its just terrible. It was a really hamfisted "conclusion" but the game should have just ended ad Painful.
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>>337936276
Not cultures also eat other humans. Is that suddenly excusable now?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KicyvQKiJo

I've been dead for thirty-five years.

Today is the day I live.
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>>337936439
Jim Sterling

Literally, just Jim Sterling.
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>>337936241
Wait a second that dialogue sounds familiar, what is it from? It's ringing a bell but I can't quite hear it
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>>337936217
Crying? Nah. But I felt very bad. I had to think about the whole thing for weeks.
But I admit I almost teared up when I choo to hug Brad
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>pausing any time Buzzo approaches to listen to his comfy and chill theme
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>>337936552
Sorry anon, I got no idea, I just though it was relevant enough to slap it in with the reply.
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>>337936276
Are you trying to rationalise child rape?
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>>337936676
>It's another Buzzo ambush episode
mcfucking kill me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z29h7HUcJus

I made the mistake of asking him why he was so asshurt

I've never more rapidly regretted a choice I've ever made in any game
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>>337937085
What does he do if you ask him that?
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>>337937181
He will fuck your shit up, mate.
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>>337936217
I don't cry. After Lisa I don't feel anything. At the time I had also discovered the Clarissa comics so that was a very shitty point in my life.
Felt awful yet strangely good.
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>You will never re-experience Lisa: The Painful for the first time ever again
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>>337936676
Fuck buzzo
>try to right him
>get my shit slapped
>game over even if you win
Fuck that noise, I'll make my own game where you CAN kill some looming asshole and it'll do some cool shit, with hookers and blackjack.
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>>337937181
You get the consequences of both options he gives you,

-1 Arm & all your shit is taken
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>>337937225
He'll do that regardless.

Which is annoying but I understand why
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>>337937334
>killing an integral part of the plot
Yeah, nah. Buzzo's super fucking important, and I agree you should be able to fight and win him, but at the best he should just run away.
Besides it doesn't really make much sense in terms of the plot since he's so hopped up on joy all the time. He should be able to slaughter anything he wants.

>>337937325
Feels bad man. Feels really bad. This was the only game in probably half a decade that moved me this much.
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>>337937325
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>>337937563
There is literally nothing wrong with killing an integral part of the plot as long as there's something really fucking cool you get for it, like a whole different story or some shit
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>>337937325
feelsbad
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>>337937325
>Get a friend to play it while I watch
>They get bored of it within an hour

>Meanwhile I get to watch like a dozen of my friends play Undertale from start to finish
I liked both games, but, fuck man. I wanted to experience Lisa more.
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If you didn't lose at least four people to this shit, I hate you
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>>337938215
I feel the same way. Got a friend to buy it, he stopped playing after 30 minutes.

He then proceeded to play through Undertale in 2 days. I feel really taunted by this

I really want to disassociate these two games but I can't help but feel anger when seeing how Undertale has reached autism-levels of cult-status while Lisa remains a hidden gem overlooked by the majority.
Maybe its better that way.
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>>337938325
Pls don't hate me.
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>>337938325
I feel you
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>>337938462
Would you like a game to have a small, yet dedicated fanbase, or to have a huge, autistic mass of children?
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>>337928949
The story is good but the gameplay sucks since you really only have one character they made it alot easier than when it first came out tho.
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>>337935191
It is the best written bullshit. People dispute it but she got the nobel prize for writing. Just try it out and read more in general. No one excuses rape, but it's good to think about what people are.
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>>337938325
I save scummed it, fuck that, fuck you, and fuck me.
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>>337938325
I kept reloading my save until I didn't lose a single person because I'm a fucking scumbag and I don't care, only took like 5 reloads.
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>>337938619
Case in point

I just want people to give Lisa a try since I think it scratches the same itch as Undertale, but is simply miles better (yes I've played both)
But everyone I recommend the game to just stops playing after 30 minutes
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>>337938747
Yeah, the early game is slow. It's a turn off for some.
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>>337938325
>literally killed my entire party aside from terry and brad and didn't even get past the second guy

I restarted that motherfucker and reset until I got zero deaths fuck that shit man.
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>>337938747
I can see how it just might not already to some people. Lisa is the sad game, undertale is the happy game. Both great, just different reasons and perspectives
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>>337938325
Lost everyone my first time.

The trick is to wait a few seconds before you pull the trigger when it's your turn.

My first, second, and third tries I hammered that cocksucker.

When I tried that, I only lost 1 party member (Percy)
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>>337938462
People just prefer silly games over serious silly games.
Also I'm a big Lisa fan but I honestly think the areas could have looked a little better and not have everything look the same. I think a lot of people may have been turned off by that.

But yeah, I'm kinda glad Lisa didn't get as popular as Undertale and all the autismos can have that game.
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>>337929958
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>>337938325
When I realized what was going down, I picked Olan because he had the highest luck on the team. He swept it.
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>>337938629
You know who else also got a noble prize in literature, some fedora tier old portuguese fuck who made a book about blindness with copious amounts of rape, violence and general social commentary on human behaviour on desperate situations, while not using nearly any punctuation.

Nobel prize means very little anon, it may be well written, but ideal changing it really won't be, especially for me. Those people are just scum, plain and simple.
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Game?
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>>337938325
I save-scummed like crazy at that point. I just wanted to get every single party member on my first run, and to not lose anyone. I was not a happy man at the ending despite not even bringing my favorite party members the first time around.

In my Pain Mode run, I will try to not save-scum that part.
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>>337938462
Why are you watching all your friends play undertale from start to finish multiple times?
That sounds boring as fuck
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>>337939289
Lisa
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>>337939289
Cave story
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>>337939289
boku no pico
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>>337939289
Space Funeral: Tranny Bubsy Edition
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>>337939416
why is this even a thing? Space Funeral was perfect just the way it was.
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>>337917126
>[air horn intensifies]
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>>337939289
OFF
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If Marty taught Brad the Armstrong family techniques, why didn't he use them in his fight against Brad?
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What went wrong?
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>>337939571
I probably would have loved the game if the puzzles weren't literal torture

Even with a walkthrough I got sick of them fast. At least the battles worked on auto-play
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I'm actually kind of glad LISA didn't explode like Undertale did. It still remains as one of my favorite games that I've played in years.

And at the same time, I wish more people on the internet talked about it instead of Undertale.

It's almost like this game is unLPable with all the dark humor and really dark themes, I still have yet to see some big name LPer play LISA from start to finish.
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>>337939646
Marty didn't teach Brad anything. Brad developed it himself.
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>>337939646
His grandfather did, not Marty.
>>337939740
Beats the shit out of me, but it better be a verry fucking good reason.
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The Armstrong technique was passed down to Brad from his grandpa, Marty mentions this.
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>>337939334
uh I never said that
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You people

DO

NOT

LEARN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YkJqwPu5Mo
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>>337939223
In a general sense I would agree with you, but what's the harm in trying one book? You do realize the bible, Greek plays, even Shakespeare dealer with sexual assault and the perpetrators not being inherently evil, right? I was just recommending a book based in your passion for a particular viewpoint. You're not going to stay an ardent thinker if you don't read outside your comfort zone.
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>>337939814
Oh, so he's the guy that said "Now let's go see how your sister is doing."?
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>>337939774
dingaling talked about this before. he said Pewdie was talked to him about LPing it, but then changed his mind once he actually saw what the game was about.

If anything, I think we dodged a bullet here.
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>>337939854
>>337939646
Meant to reply.
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>>337939215
>>luck
Does that shit actually affect the roulette? I thought it was just RNG bullshit that dictated whether you won or not.
I'm basing my assumption on Fardy's performance in my own game. I savescummed using Fardy, because fuck Fardy. He won three rounds in a row, then never won anything consecutively again. Took forever.
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>>337939883
Sorry, that was meant for >>337938215
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>>337938118
>asks why she's eating ice cream
>when she already knows she always eats ice cream
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>>337939215
>The characters luck affects Russian roulette
What?
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>>337936217
I only cried once which is almost the same thing
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What the FUCK was his problem?
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>>337938747
>I think it scratches the same itch as Undertale, but is simply miles better
Undertale has a better world objectively in terms of design because Lisa's world is literally never ending palette swap mountains. I'd also say that in most cases Undertale has stronger characterization because you spend more time with fewer characters, and that's the big reason it is as popular as it is. Lisa has more characters though and they're all pretty quirky and interesting/fun in their own way. Lisa also has a much stronger story pretty much objectively because it is a long game that really takes its time to build up and it's really focused where as Undertale is a short as fuck game that tries to cram all of its story and serious tones in the last 10% of the game and when it does it's a generic paint by numbers sappy emotional ending that you can see coming from a mile away, especially if you played the Mother games which did the same stories and twists only a million times better. Gameplay is a toss up. Lisa is a pretty generic JRPG that works just fine but isn't really interesting where as Undertale has a really interesting borderline shmup gameplay but switches it up every so often, the only thing is that none of these gameplay modes are particularly well done, it's like they're all mini games that never go past level 1 so they're all just really basic and easy. Music is also a toss up, both are good in their own right but it ultimately comes down to personal preference, although I will say that Undertale is much easier to get into. Undertale is like pop music where as Lisa is some underground alternative indie band, both have quality but one has more mainstream appeal.

I wouldn't say one is overall better than the other, I would say I prefer Lisa to Undertale, but someone saying the opposite is valid too.
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>>337939334
Watching their reactions to certain peaks in the game never got old.

Watching some random fuck play it would be boring, sure. But watching a friend is like experiencing it yourself all over again.
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>Like LISA a lot
>Absolutely love Undertale
>Whenever I come to a LISA thread, its people complaining how Undertale is more popular and how the fans suck

Dont ruin the reputation of your preferred game by being exactly what you whine about.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp_xm2B16tQ
bretty cool
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>>337936217
No, and I wanted to. Felt like shit but I've never shed a tear.
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>>337938325
I save scummed because I am literally trash.
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>>337940167
Well I didn't know it for sure, but that's the method I went by and it seemed to work.
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>>337938325
>had to load 4 times because literally everyone died
>fifth time I have a single party member left and get through

And that was the day I realised cheat engine is a really good program.
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>>337940328
>Undertale has a better world objectively
You expect me to read that wall of text after starting it with something like that?

You do realize that aside from maybe 2-3 locations Undertale also looked like palette-swap tier garbage?
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>>337940281
He dreamed of creating the world's greatest pizza pie
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>>337939905
Yes, I know all of those talk about it, however I honestly never really read any of those, and unless Im mistaken, none of them directly say or propagate the "Rape your daughter today!" sort of ideal I despise.

You might think Im some fedora tipper anon, but I already though enough. I already know what I wish to think and propagate, what I can be open minded about and what I really will not tolerate. That sort of shit, for better or worse, is in the fuck off kind of section. Your recommendation is appreciated, however, Im going to have to turn it down.
>>337939928
Im fairly certain not anon, isn't tat on the Painfull ending where you take the vacine? Almost everyone is dead, Brads grandfather is probly dead and burried for atleast 20 years now, considering that when she was 13 or something, Marty was already looking old as fuck.
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>>337938325
No joke, I used Percy both times I played though the game and he never lost.
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>>337939479
Because that particular furry has an obsession with Space Funeral and with dead mascot characters.
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>>337940281
He got his dick absolutely rock hard with Joy mutants, so he wanted to make a world filled with them where he could rule as kind.
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>>337939814
No he beats the shit out of Brad.
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>>337940562
World DESIGN anon, one word makes a whole difference.
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>>337940420
that was pretty good
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>>337940737
You fuck
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>>337939928
That's Marty.
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>>337939784
No, it was his grandfather.
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BIG
I
G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWHxy2nFW4k
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>>337940769
still disagree, but lets just leave it at that
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>>337940562
I don't remember a single location in Undertale looking like a palette swap of any other location in Undertale. If you can provide examples I would gladly discuss them with you, but I think either way you're being ridiculous if you think Undertale even comes close to how absolutely same every single overworld looked in Lisa where everything is literally the same asset in a different color.
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When does Undertale get good?
I pirated it and got about an hour - hour and a half into the game before stopping. I just never went back to it, it wasn't that interesting. The combat was pretty cool but that's about it.

The game doesn't even have a good aesthetic like Lisa.
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>>337940857
Why wasn't Rando on the list?
Did he compare in power to Big Lincon?
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>>337940857
>Big Lincoln sent you to hell
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>literally can't have a LISA thread without Undertale being brought up

brb drinking myself to death
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>post yfw uncle sticky showed me all about sex.
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>>337919081
>>337930370

Wow, we have literal fucking joy mutants commenting on the situation between Marty and Brad.
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>>337940857
He's the only fight I had difficulty with in Joyful. I had to use all the joy I had to not get my shit sent to hell
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>>337941043
Rando wasn't as much physically more powerful as much as he just had a huge army.
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>>337941043
I didn't play the Joyful yet but Rando is your party member throughout it from what I've seen.
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>>337941043
Rando rules east olathe, the list was west olathe.
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>>337941150
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>>337941142
Complain about the people complaining about Undertale then. No one brought it up before that.
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>>337940281
I still firmly believe Brokentooth March is the best end battle song, probably ever. It's so fucking good, man

>>337940586
Top kek
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>>337939972
I think he just opened it, played through the intro, and then dropped.
His playtime suggests that.
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>>337941030
Snowden is by far the best zone of the game. If you're not having fun by the time you get to Waterfall you're not going to enjoy it.
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If you didn't hug brad at the end you're a fucking soulless monster.
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>>337941150
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>>337941390
Spare Sticky every time just for that fight
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>>337941295
But what about Bergerstruckung + Asgore?, fuck it both games have an excellent OST
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Did Sticky deserve to die, lads?
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>>337940603
I get what ya mean, I just think of all the people to improperly lump in with fedora lit it's toni morrison. She's not like Bolano or Pynchon with that shit.
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>>337941030
The game is very heavily character and 4th wall humor based, alongside the battle system's nuances and gimmicks. If you didnt enjoy them AT ALL, not sure you will enjoy it at all by the end.
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>>337941521
No.
Sticky did nothing wrong.
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>>337939972
Sad dark stuff doesn't get views I guess huh?

Damn I missed all the cool cosplay at SakuraCon this year.
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>>337941521
I let the fucker walk. He shoulda stayed gone like Rick.
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>>337940963
not him but new home and the end of the ruins are basically gray and purple versions of each other, but that's all that comes to mind.
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>>337918410
That could have been a hallucination since no one ever talks about it and it makes no sense for marty to be on some dumbass island.

If a man is evil for most of his life and does one good thing is he redeemed? because of marty everyone important to brad has suffered immensely. and he also treated brad like shit. marty made brad watch as he raped lisa and/or made brad participate himself. Can you really blame brad for flying of the handle bars?
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>>337941521
>>337941576
I really wish Dingaling left it ambiguous if Sticky fucked her or not.
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>>337941782
Yeah.
One of the things I don't like about joyful.
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>>337941512
I felt like Undertale's OST was a lot more...fixed. Like, it fit the game it was in, it didn't really have a lot more than that, it was a great OST though
LISA's felt like actual music, and that was great because it made the game feel like a movie, this incredible story coupled with this OST of amazingly fitting songs that can be used to a lot of other things, it feels bigger than it is
(LISA's OST feels like it fits the mood, not the situation, while Undertale is the opposite)
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>>337941742
Well sure, but that is intentional and thematically appropriate. I mean you can see it as lazy if you want, but the whole point was that Toriel couldn't let go of the past and built a home that was exactly like her old home and continuously tries to atone for what Asgore did.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtJZTKoqK9E

Best song coming through.
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>>337941150
>the music stops when she says that
holy fuck 10/10 mad
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>spoiled myself and now interested in painful
Fuck I ruined it for my self.
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>>337941198
>defending a fucking monster just because "b-but he was nice for a couple of days"

Are you fucking retarded?

Those two are completely in the right. How can you possibly expect Brad and anyone that's played Lisa the First to forgive the fucker. Buddy only does it because she doesnt know shit, but we do.
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>>337941782
>>337941882
It really feels like Dingaling got annoyed that it got misinterpreted and just jammed it in.
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