This trailer was very grot heavy.
How do the Gretchen fit into all this?
>>337903178
What is that in his hand?
>>337903327
An Eldar scalp/hair piece I think.
There better not be only 3 factions at launch. Orks are fun but having the comic relief as the sole antagonistic faction just won't work.
Lets not forget that the last time Relic did orks they were dull and boring.
>>337903519
>Having the Orks as the sole antagonistic faction just won't work
It's worked for 40k for years in many stories. Not every war in 40k is about Chaos, Tyranids and Necrons. Pretty much all of them are about fighting Orks.
Not to mention Orks are REALLY dangerous when a competent Warboss is in charge.
>>337903746
>It's worked for 40k for years in many stories.
I read helsreach and the orks in it were so BORING.Then again everything in that book was as dull as a floorboard. Definitely dembski's worst book.
>>337903519
Aside from obvious as fuck CSM.Fuckers pulled it off with Total War WHF, what stops them doing it in DOW3?
If they pull that shit off, I'd pirate it and wait for a everything in it bundle sale.
I just want base building back, more wargear and units.
>>337904102
Orks can be very interesting and intimidating as enemies, even if you aren't pushing their comedic relief side.
>>337904102
The Orks in the Ciaphas Cain series was the shit.
>Stealth killing an Ork by shooting him right up the arse when he's taking a shit
>Getting the fuck away from the Orks by stealing one of their buggies and actually being able to ride it, because Jurgen is a fucking badass
>Had a duel with a warboss while being surrounded by Orks and Nobs. End up winning and starting a huge fucking brawl because now all the other Orks wants to be the new warboss, so they can sneak away unscathed.
>>337903327
A hair squig.
>>337903519
Eldar are antagonists too, and if you don't understand that you can fuck off this thread right this instant
What I expect from this game:
>Basebuilding like Dow1
>Proper cover like Dow2
>Wargear like Dow2
>Moral, retreat and suppression combined from both games
>Destructible environment like Dow2
>Better graphics, particle effects and animations
What this game will probably deliver:
>Excellent voice lines
>Great soundtrack
>>337904673
But surely Eldar are your allies? We share common goals with humanity.
>>337905361
>We
Don't let the Mon'keigh know.
>>337905361
>Eldar sharing goals with humanity
>>337904630
Yeah Blackadder in Space is pretty great mate, I love it.
>>337905605
When you're a space marine in the great crusades and look at your power armor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU
>>337903519
there better be fucking chaos in this game
>tier 1
renegades and screaming, psychotic heretics
>tier 2
chaos space marines and light vehicles
>tier 3
deamons and heavy vehicles
>>337905569
Both are really interested in fighting Chaos. And are the most likely to ally if there is a need. Of course might be fuck each other over if they have beaten their enemy.
>>337904820
holy fuck it looks like ass. if I was them I wouldn't have shown that shit it really looks like fucking starcraft 2, I wouldn't even be able to tell them apart if there weren't blood ravens in it
>>337903519
>orks
>dull and boring
wot kinda zoggy 'umie bait is dis boss?
>>337906134
>holy fuck it looks like ass.
It's a comparison of a finished game to a game in alpha. Now I don't want to be one of those >b-b-but it's an alpha guys but at this point it's not worth complaining about. Not to mention that graphics are the least of your concerns for this game, namely that the basebuilding is good.
>>337905951
Nope, just Space Marines, Orks, and Eldar. Chaos might turn up in a DLC, though.
>>337903519
>Orks are fun but having the comic relief as the sole antagonistic faction just won't work.
>mfw
>>337905707
Granted, the skull fixation within the empire is kind of symbolic.
The skull is the symbolic shape of man. The skull is the head and the head is the face, the feature of recognition, encasing the mind and soul. Thus the skull is one of the outer-most features all men have in common and is one of the "unifying factors".
Not to mention it symbolizes death and shit, which is pretty damned common in the grim dark 41st millennium.
Personally, more of a fan of the aquila, ad mech and "I"s of the Terran organizations.
>>337906395
>namely that the basebuilding is good.
Having basebuilding isn't that hard. Dow1 basebuilding was nothing special. It's just there.
>Not to mention that graphics are the least of your concerns for this game
So instead of grim, destruction and battlefield carnage, you prefer the cartoony starcraft shit?
So if the Ork makes a small explosive and says to themselves "Diz bom ere will blows up an entire planet it will!" And they all think it, then they've basically made a mini planet destroyer?
>>337907249
They can't will the universe out of existence or anything like that, more just twisting the laws of physics and that kind of thing. The average ork aircraft probably isn't aerodynamically sound but it'll fly. Their power doesn't get too much more amazing than that. Maybe they can also make shit go faster if they paint it red, maybe.
>>337907249
The psychic fuckery doesn't go that far.
It's not like painting the truck red makes it go the speed of light, just faster than it normally would.
Less an "I win" button, and more a "I'm even with the other guys" one.
>>337906926
All I'm saying is that if it looks the same 2 weeks from release then you'll have a point, but at this stage it's too early to judge the graphics when they'll probably change them thrice over during development.
>tfw done reading Eisenhorn and Ravenor and just started reading the Horus Heresy
Why can't I hold all this Dan Abnett awesomeness?
>>337907560
I read a chapter of Eisenhorn and thought it was shit. Abnett's first person prose is weak and the 40k setting in general doesn't seem to work well in novel form. I've only managed to finish one, and that's probably because it minimized the 40kness factor and was more just trench warfare but the other side are big and green.
>>337907494
Name a game that had drastically changed it's graphics during early Alpha?
Rome 2 was an abomination when it came out.
>>337907669
Abnett makes the civilian life of the Imperium interesting. We have tons of stuff about the military and various soldiering organisations but it's interesting to see Inquisitor mucking around in Imperial and Alien systems.
>I read a chapter of Eisenhorn and thought it was shit.
Weird because tons of people think it's one of the best 40k novels around and I personally enjoyed it thoroughly. But then it's /v/ so I'm not surprised someone would deem something shit after an half-assed attempt to scrape the surface.
>>337907560
>Decide to pick up a Guant's Ghost novel one day because I like IG and was curious about 40k novels
>A couple months later I own the entire series
Are there any good 40k novels that aren't about spess muhreen infighting with subtle hints of chaos corruption?
What about IG fighting orks on some planet?
Fuck ill take any race fighting orks.
>>337907797
Yes, clearly Eisenhorn was too deep for me.
>2016 is the year of mobile inspired graphics
If you had problems differenting units in DoW 2 then you should go see an eye doctor
>>337907804
>Are there any good 40k novels that aren't about spess muhreen infighting with subtle hints of chaos corruption?
Eisenhorn and Ravenor, books about Imperial Inquisitors, so spies/detectives in spess. Also grey morality with chaos undertones.
>>337907804
Read Dead man walking.
What's the bet that all races will have a similar ending scenario where another pops up like Chaos or Necrons and then the player's race has to kill them because they killed most of everyone else
>>337907842
I didn't say anything about 2deep4u, it's just that it starts off slowly. It's pretty damn retarded to deem a whole trilogy "shit" after reading a single chapter.
>>337903519
>Orks are fun but having the comic relief as the sole antagonistic faction just won't work.
I agree, we need more games with Orks as protagonists
>>337907975
I don't like Abnett's way of putting words together.
>>337903519
The main enemy is obviously Chaos as it was in the previous DoW games.
Regardless of whether it would be Eliphas or Abaddon again it will be Khorne again.
>>337908027
Well then sucks to be you, since he wrote the best novels.
>>337908103
40k is lame when it tries to be serious.
>>337908171
>literally one of the most grimdark settings there are around
>some retards think it's itchy & scratchy in spess
Orks are an exception, not the rule.
>>337903178
>no Ork fortress building game where you manage your Gretchins, boyz and an assortment of squigs.
>>337904820
>Great soundtrack
Nah, they´ll probably only hire jeremy soule again.
>>337903178
gretchen is a female name, grot plural is gretchin.
>>337908289
>Stronghold: Ork Edition
Felinids when
>>337908258
l2britishhumour, i bet you didn't even realize 1984 is meant to be funny. 40k should be Blackadder in space. It's all about that balance of misery and humour that's completely lost on America. Without the humour what have you got left?
A universe of stupidly big things killing each other with chainsaws indefinitely was never meant to be taken 100% straight.
>>337906118
Humanity's goals:
>Wipe out all mortal threats to the Imperium
>Establish a lasting galactic peace after destroying the chaos gods
>Serve the Emprah's will
Eldar goal's:
>Protect their numbers at any cost, up to and including using human hive worlds as meat shields against Nid fleets and wiping out colonies to take their resources if needed
>Create a new god to kill Slaneesh to secure their souls again
>Finally resume their pan-galactic orgy now that it doesn't doom them to eternal torment
>>337908103
he really didn´t, he´s just a basically competent writer in contrast to most other BL authors, but his books are hair-raisingly lore divergent. He is basically not writing real 40K but fanfic that only tangentially touches on the universe.
Oh boy, can't wait for the faction dlc's! :^)
>>337908103
>the best novels
But the best novels are night lords series.
>>337908454
>his books are hair-raisingly lore divergent.
I'm sure you have some examples then.
>>337908446
Can't you be less biased?
>>337907975
I read all, it is shit, hereticus especially.
Hairgel elf slayer who gets slaughtered by a Hive Tyrant > Baldy sergeant who died in an Ork assault > Smiling sergeant
>>337908640
Thank you for your input.
>>337908552
I doubt it.
>>337908552
Humanity's goals:
>Wipe out all mortal threats to the Imperium, up to and including using human hive worlds as meat shields against Nid fleets and forcing humans to combat horrific eldritch threats in the name of conquest
>Establish a lasting galactic peace after destroying the chaos gods, in which anything that isn't entirely human will die a horrific and bloody death
>Serve as slaves to those who deliberately misconstrue the Emprah's message in order to further their own lives and careers
Eldar goal's:
>Protect their numbers at any cost, up to and including using human hive worlds as meat shields against Nid fleets and wiping out colonies to take their resources if needed
>Create a new god to kill Slaneesh to secure their souls again
>Finally resume their pan-galactic orgy now that it doesn't doom them to eternal torment
>>337908552
How so? I thought I made it clear that both humanity and the eldar are, on average, dicks.
Humanity wants to commit galactic xenocide and establish a brutal theocracy across all worlds, and the Eldar want to solve their own problems at the cost of even the people who don't get in their way and then just go back to mindless hedonism.
Neither is compatible with the other.
>>337908289
That would actually be pretty cool
>>337908514
Inquisitorial offices, a desk inquisitor that is administrator, his super special commissar colonel, hovertrucks, psykers just fucking about without any control by anyone, imperial citizens not going to church, in depth knowledge about pskyers and demons from petty criminals, computer deskjobs and hacking from the top of my head.
>That bit when Ravenor is sent to the future to some dead world eaten by Tyranids and gets swarmed by them
>>337908794
>I thought I made it clear that both humanity and the eldar are, on average, dicks.
No, you didn't. This >>337908778 is how you make both sound like dicks.
>>337908421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuvHPr4BGk
>Brother Martellus, what is that?
>It's called the Titan Invictus Chapter Master
>The Titan Invictus?
>Affirmative, the Ultramarines gave us this mighty gift to unleash against the Emperor's foes...
>>337908926
Why would there be nids on a dead world?
The things you see in combat literally exist solely for that fight and are eaten along with everything else as the fleet digests the planet's biomass.
>>337909313
It wasn't dead before the nids showed up. I guess the nids were busy eating it before an Inquisitor and his tasty retinue showed up through a portal.
>>337908014
>Orks as protagonists
FUND IT!
>>337909950
You start as small ork and grow your way to top trough fighting.
>>337909950
a kommando mercenary group would be a fun story
>implying the enemy won't be Necrons
>>337909950
>>337904673
>IGNORANT MONKEY MANS LET US KILL YOU PLS UNDERSTAND
>WHY DIDN'T YOU PLS UNDERSTAND NOW CHAOS/TYRANIDS/NECRONS KILL EVERYONE
>oh nevermind, you got it under control, c u l8r ;)
Eldar are the worst 40k "antagonists"
>>337907560
You know the rules, It's choas cow and it's slave.
As for how a cow became a champion of chaos, that's something for another time.
>>337912446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29aGTbg62A
>>337912446
Oi boss, I fink deres somefing wrong wit deez boyz...
>>337912446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29aGTbg62A
DIGGANOBZ!!!!
>>337903178
>dev releases CGI trailer with absolutely no gameplay
>/v/ shits on it endlessly
>40k trailer full of CGI and absolutely no fucking gameplay
>/v/ can't stop jacking off to it
What the fuck is wrong with you children
It's just a below average RTS series with little men in power armor
>>337914030
This is a lore thread, anon. The actual announcement and trailer threads were full of criticism.
>>337914030
>little men
Bigger than you, anon
>>337907801
Traitor General was amazing.
