Now that the dust has settled, should she have been given more clothes?
Yes.
>>337795952
Yes because her outfit just looks silly and is exploitative.
No.
nah
yes
she looks like a fucking idiot
>>337795952
No, imagine how much worse the game would have been received without a bunch of losers falling in love with her
She should have been barefoot more often
>>337795952
Who cares? The game sucked.
>>337795952
No, she should have just been removed from the game because she's a shitty and worthless character.
She should wear nothing but a mask.
It's literally a camouflage burka.
>>337795952
Don't know about more clothes.
Her outfit just looks like garbage.
I think she should have had about 20% more clothing distributed in some fashion across her design. Still skin revealing in a certain sense, even a bit gratuitous in that half aware Kojima way.
For the most part, I was barely ever turned on by her over the whole of TPP because it was just so damn blatant and in my face. Well aside from a few moments of downtime in da chopper.
>>337795952
>should she have been given more clothes?
yes. that obvious fapbait was pretty cringy.
who cares the game was shit either way
>>337795952
Why didn't they make up a story where she was raised by wolves or some shit? That way you could have her be naked all the time.
>>337795952
>dust has settled meme
When will it end? to answer, no. Some don't like her backstory but it existed and covering her up would have choked her to death. Also people dressing differently is realistic, some people for some fucking reason don't like girls wearing bikini's at the beach but it doesn't stop them, so why should Quiet be censored? because it makes you uncomfortable?
>>337796096
>>337796178
>>337796259
However these are valid. The problem isn't what she's wearing it's the fact that she exists in a very obvious way to try and salvage what a shit show MGSV was by covering up the holes with tits.
>>337795952
Yes. She's way hotter dressed.
>>337795952
that fucking crazy face that she has
also mute, even the dog has more expressions
Giving her more clothes would have made her even more forgettable.
She also should've been written/designed to fit more into the overall plot of MGS. Okay so there wouldn't have had a waifu for some peeps but a kind of young girl sniperfu ala Wolf would've been much more awesome and interesting.
>>337796336
>but it existed and covering her up would have choked her to death
The End seemed to be just fine fully clothed.
>>337795952
>Not giving her the XOF or Sniper Wolf outfit
No, she'd suffocate
Did you even play the game?
Sure.
She should have been given more personality.
Seriously, the only human partner in the game is a mute? Give me a break.
I thought the whole crispy lungs so parasites keep her alive through the skin was a neat concept but her costume was fucking retarded, even if she needed lots of exposed flesh that costume is terrible.
Kojipro should have put more effort into something a little less hookerish.
>>337796482
The End had a natural ability and didn't need water to revitalize, photosynthesis was all he needed. Everyone that had it in MGSV were injected with it so it wasn't natural to their system, it was a bastardised version of The End's ability that was quickly wiped from existence shortly after MGSV.
>>337796747
Agreed, a similar thing was done with Kaine from Nier only she was handled a hell of a lot better than Quiet was. Kojima just wanted a near naked girl, the Nier guys wanted a character.
Name a metal gear game without a scantily clad woman.
>>337796908
Or man.
>>337795952
i wish people were as autistic about bikinis as they were about empty open world
then maybe we would have got a proper metal gear solid game
>>337796908
MG, MG2, MGS1, MGS2, Ac!d, Ac!d 2, Ghost Babel.
>>337796978
Now this one is harder because Kojima loves Snakes ass.
>>337795952
she didnt need the giant tits. she needed an actual purpose in the plot. oh wait, what plot?
>>337797220
she didnt have giant tits, unfortunately
How different was the game if you killed quiet? I couldn't bring myself to play through it again.
>>337795952
I want to give a caveat to what I'm about to discuss. There are plenty of reasons to enjoy the Metal Gear games, and I am not telling anyone not to enjoy them. I am announcing that they are no longer worth my time and attention as a writer and critic, and I hope that tolerance for a well-informed opinion on this topic prevails.
As a consideration, I do offer a trigger warning that I will be discussing sexualized violence in Metal Gear.
With that said, I think it's always good to close out any long-form project by pointing out its problems or the illusions generated in its development. The main illusion that I'd like to dispel here is that of objectivity. I maintain a focused, "verifiable" tone throughout most of my videos, and that tone can sometimes create an artificial sense of an objective view. In fact, what I've presented during these videos are highly subjective views. There's a selection process in effect for what parts of the game I choose to show and what I choose not to show. These choices reflect values and personality as much as they reflect the game itself. Critics always expose both the work and themselves.
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>>337797514
spaghetti everywhere
>>337795952
Nah Stefanie that whore needs a good dick nothing more
Feels good that she got pounded by a group of african warriors (if you think this is bait check her twitter)
>>337795952
not even offended, but yes
kojima was mad horny as fuck and made a stupid design
Nothing against scantily clad women, but really, the entire game would play out the same if quiet wasn't there. She needed a bigger part in the story, not shower scenes.
No, she should have less. The tights with holes are tacky.
>>337798591
It wasn't sexual, it was comradary. Okay, the 'enemy becomes ally' things has been done to death but TPP did it really well.
It was all building up to mission 45
when the music kicked in I shed a single manly tear
I don't know, but she should have been Sniper Wolf.
>>337796747
>>337796754
For the last fucking time.
The End has a working pair of lungs he can breath with. Quite can only *breathe* through her skin, the injury she substantive to her lungs happen five minutes into the game.
>>337798812
Yeah, this. Either drop the retarded 'clothes-breathing' stretch and deck her in some operator gear, or make her wear a simple clean bikini. Looks like trash garbitch as it stands.
>>337795952
Well literally the only reason she doesn't have clothes is so shitter autistic losers can have their imaginary girlfriend, so yes fuck those people. It's the only type of fucking they're ever going to have.
>>337796336
Her back story was a very poor excuse to make a bikini girl who they didn't even need to write lines for IMO.
>>337796178
This.
But yeah, Quiet's design was fucking stupid. I wanted a cool operator waifu, not a combat hooker.
MGSV was a mistake
The fact that Kojima tried to play it off as "deep" and say "you'll all be sorry!!! she's naked for a reason!!" just shows how childish he really is. Honestly, SJW politics aside, Kojima can't write a female character worth shit.
>>337797162
>MGS2
Fortune
>No game where you run around the world with Loli Wolf and Shota Raven/Octopus/Mantis/Liquid
>>337800110
She's not scantily clad anon she's covered. Scantily clad means revealing like what Quiet wears.
>>337800050
Not being able to emotionally handle scant clothing is childish.
>>337800050
Quiet's ending was so fucking terrible. What was he even thinking
No.
I don't like the outfit, but the game creator wanted her to look that way and I respect their artistic vision.
>>337800225
which is why you can almost see her vagoo, right?
>>337795952
no because I like tits and her ass
Sure, she looks idiotic but at least it's something you remember unlike the alternative which could only survive if the writing for her character was phenomenal, but expecting that from a video game is a joke
>>337795952
I don't care, but it's clear that Jokima just wanted a half-naked booty in the game. I expected that he would actually stay true to his promise, but it wasn't like that at all.
Now that the dust has settled we can all agree that 5 is the worst in the series next to MG1 & MGS3 right?
>>337800302
Except you can't, not even a peak of it.
>>337800332
Extra thin bait
>>337795952
I don't mind character being sexualized if its fitting and/or done in tasteful manner. Silent however fits neither. The whole reason her not wearing clothes as well style are bouth directly out from ass and deep from it.
>>337800178
>there will never be MGS6 where you play as real BiBo doing all the stuff the lore talked about because Kojima is a hack
V feels like a spin off.
>>337795952
Quiet should never have existed.
>>337800317
I pretty much forgot she existed up until this thread. I even skipped all the cut-scenes in her final mission so I could guarantee an S-rank because I didn't care about seeing what happened to her and never wanted to play the mission again. She's just the most nothing character in the game.
>>337795952
It would have made more sense that the mother base solders hated her if she had more clothes. The kind of reactions they have just seem ridiculous, no straight man reacts that way to a hot scantily dressed woman.
ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
>>337800876
All the soldiers in the base are gay for the Boss.
Seriously.
>>337800252
This post is so /v/
>>337795952
her outfit was a metaphor for the game
unfinisheddid u rike it?
>>337800003
Indeed. Though by this point half of the series was a mistake. The NES games and everything after MGS3 were all mistakes.
>>337800876
What, men can't have self control? You sound like a woman.
>>337796541
The breathing through her skin excuse is a lousy way to give everyone some fan service
>>337795952
Now that we know she is the worst character of the series in the worst game of the series it doesn't really fucking matter how much clothes she has on
>>337800554
There's not much of a story there. Big Boss did some Outer Heaven prep and then became commander of FOXHOUND. Why are so many Metal Gear fans obsessed with dramatizing back story for the sake of details about shit we already know?
>>337795952
Yes. A donkey is better dressed than left.
>>337801731
Everything in a fictional universe is an excuse for characters to do anything.
>>337801864
Because before we were going to get his descent into darkness in his war against the philosophers/Patriots.
Witnessing him becoming a Demon.
>>337800003
Understatement of the century
>>337796140
/Thread
>>337801864
Yeah, and Fake Big Boss fultoning people in the desert for 20 hours while a cutscene plays every now and then to remind you the plot still exists was much more rich story telling, right?
I reckon the right one looks cooler, it's just silly when she's dressed like that.
I would've taken a linear, fleshed out MGSV over the open world bandwagoning MGSV we got.
I knew it was gonna suck when Kojima commented on how GTAV or W3, whichever one, made MGSV look bland.
I want to erase MGSV from my memory
No. But the torn stockings should've been removed, they're really tacky and don't really make sense given her abilities.
i dont care, the game was a disappointment.
>>337802394
Remember in the trailer you saw her stockings rip from the shock torture. But in game, they were already torn the minute you see her. What's up with that?
>>337802125
We already saw him as a villain in MG2 and got his motivations in MGS3.
>>337802241
False dichotomy. Both are unnecessary.
>>337798985
yes I understood this but I didnt care for the costume, I thought it made her look like a cheap hooker instead of an assassin.
Reposting the best criticism of MGS's rampant misogyny
>>337802918
(cont.)
>>337803025
(end)
You will probably not find a more reasonable and underhanded, non-SJW criticism of MGS misogyny out there, to be honest.
I wonder what happened to all the "MGSV is the only thing that's keeping me from committing suicide" people
>>337802918
>>337803025
>>337803158
>non-SJW
>criticism of misogyny, or rather the perception of fictional misogyny
good one
>>337803158
Cool, I'll let you know when i give half a fuck about the topic
>>337795952
Yeah, she should have worn a sports bra instead of a bikini top.
>>337803321
stop
>>337803343
Cool, I'll let you know when I want to pull my dick out of your ass, non-committal badass.
>>337803321
>>337803343
Why so pissy?
She should be replaced with a better character.
>>337803481
Oh, sorry didn't even notice you back there.
>>337795952
No but she should`ve looked more like skulls, it would look less stupid and made more sense storywise.
>>337802918
Metal Gear series is really problematic
>>337803287
What do you think?
>>337801731
She had another uniform or two, use it.
Who the fuck cares? A better question is, why didn't Kojima use the time and resources he could have spent finishing the fucking game on some 300 or so shitty side missions?
>>337804140
nah those took no time at all bro. side missions were a simple copy&paste job.
>>337804212
Okay, but what about those insignificant missions between the actual story missions in act 1? Seems to me like you should finish the story missions before throwing some random shit in there.
>>337795952
Yeah
>>337802797
>what is fan service
>>337802918
>>337803025
>>337803158
>sexism
>non sjw
pick one
>>337801731
Okay
and the gay shit from PW, fan service too?
I don't remember people kicking up a stink about that
>>337801731
>A demon made just to feed on lusts is a lousy way to give everyon some fan service
I guess people always done this then.
Shit mate, do not be so prude. There is 100's of games out there who do not do this. Half the thing with MGS is the cheese and the cringe. Remove it and its not MGS. Perhaps the burly men of CoD is more for you?
>>337801731
But it's an excuse nonetheless, and one that fits in the mgs universe.
>>337795952
honestly i think so but maybe just unbuttoned army fatigues and a really low cut tank top underneath to still show cleavage.
