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eat your hamburgers apollo
>>337774530
Does sushi usually get that big?
I expected loss
sushi? more like suSHIT it's just fucking rice and a piece of raw fish ffs
>>337774530
>Pre 2000
>Had to sell games to people who liked games
>Post 2000
>Have to sell games as widely as possible to the same shitheels who watch NFL and think Jurrasic World is "the bomb"
Thanks, Halo!
>>337774621
What do you think it's like before they cut it, retard
Have you never made sushi?
*
keep it 100
>no vegan option
What if I like my games without garbage in them?
>>337774621
Theres a certain stlyle of roll like that an a korean style roll like that too
>>337774530
>food analogy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>food analogies
>>337774621
That's makizushi, not regular sushi. Typical burgerland sushi is that shit cut up. Nips typical grab the whole thing and chow down like a hot dog
>Buy burger expansion back expecting more burger.
>Get something completely different.
>>337774840
>not being pescatarian
It's like you have no fucking taste whatsoever
sushi is love, sushi is life
>>337774883
>>337774926
>NO FUN ALLOWED
>>337774840
>melted bones
it doesn't work that way. besides bone soup is some of the best soup there is.
>>337774883
>Snake posting
>>337774840
>hair
HELL FUCK NO
>>337774994
>eating corpses
Oh hi, I found a recording of you
>>337774757
>Jurassic World
>Not the bomb
I'll punch you in the fucking throat
>>337774530
I disagree with this image. Newer games are buns, meat and cheese. A complete game is buns, meat, cheese, tomato, lettuce, ketchup and mustard. A 10/10 game is the complete burger w/ the bacon.
example:
Fallout 4 - buns, meat and cheese
DSII - buns, meat, cheese, tomato, lettuce, ketchup and mustard
Final Fantasy XV - complete burger w/ bacon
>>337775109
Holy shit I'm a skeleton?
Finally.
Uncooked nip garbage, sounds about right
>>337775206
>no mashed potatoes to turn red
Almost perfection
>>337775109
Vegans are just like furries. Furries let their fetish define their entire personality. Vegans let their diet define their entire personality. One dimensional, boring fucks. BORING
Not wanting to eat animal products cause you consider it cruel is one thing, but because it's GROSS? So you eat plants that feed off of and grow in LITERAL shit? Sure bud
>>337775182
>Final Fantasy XV - complete burger w/ bacon
That hasn't been served yet
>>337775367
>people who don't do a stupid thing are furries because fuck logic lol
>>337774994
Pretty sure the only people who "like" sushi are just pretending they do. Hipsters and snobs, mostly.
Been told my whole life that it was delicious, and I should get it at a sushi bar or whatever my first time. Tried it at other places anyway, never liked it. Finally got to a sushi bar and thought, "Finally, gonna see what the fuss is about." Got it and it was shit. Just... Just shit.
Not a big seafood guy anyway though. I like salmon steaks, tuna, and shrimp, but ONLY if the shrimp is grilled. None of that deep fried shit.
pic Vidya related
>>337774840
>pregnant beetle blood
I get everything else but what food is htis?
>>337775549
I said they are similar to furries in how one dimensional they are, not that they're literally furries. Clearly the lack of nutrition has affected your reading comprehension
>>337775653
FUCK. OFF.
> DLCs just give you more content
> You payed for the full game and were fine with the price - DLC is additional
> being this retarded
> fucking poorfags
>>337774530
Now if the japanese can just get to work on making good games.
>>337775641
Cochineal beetles that produce a red dye used as a food dye.
The best source of the dye are the eggs, but beetles themselves have it too, so crushing pregnant females is the optimal way to farm it.
>>337775369
obviously hes talking about what he sees on the billboard
if it comes out different in the plate you can shoot up the restaurant in rage
>>337775839
so the faggot that makes that comic hates eating insects too? That's some max faggotry
>>337775206
Looks like a cake
>>337775728
>people who range from buddhist monks, through moral europeans to rich americans
>one-dimensional
The meat rotting in your intestines is fucking your brain up.
Or maybe it's all the parasites from it.
Go away before I Holy Light your shit up, ghoul.
>>337775653
Put a fuckin shirt on Randy
>>337775924
What kind of a retard wouldn't realize that people who don't eat animal products also won't eat animal products made from insects?
Meat literally gives you fucking cancer, only retards still eat it.
>>337775206
Why would anyone want to eat raw meat?
>>337775109
Except he's not an undead monster.
Replace that gif with one of a living creature. i.e. a normal carnivore
How about a fucking lion or an eagle?
>>337776051
>5% chance of getting cancer at level 80
who cares
>>337774840
Isn't it more efficient to use artificial coloring?
>>337776158
meant to quote
>>337775839
>>337776125
So he's an inhuman beast?
I thought it's only humanoids who use the internet. And wasps and spiders, but he doesn't sound like one of those.
And humans...
...humans don't eat meat
>>337775367
Have you ever considered that this is what you think, because the only time you know someone is a furry/vegan/420/vaper is when they are like you said one dimensional and only have that, and because of that reason shove it in everyones face.
And the rest of the "normal" people who have these fetishes or lifestyle quirks just keep them to themselves because they cant be bothered shoving it into everyones faces. Same goes for pretty much everything. You mostly get exposed to the shittiest people because they are the vocal ones. The closed behind curtains communities are usually pretty chill.
>>337775978
>"I need to get attention from somewhere and being vegan is trendy so Im going to ride the trend like I ride my dragon dildo" - the post, the man, the legend
>>337776039
insect aren't animals tho
If you eat plants, no reason not to eat insects
there are plants that eat insects
>>337774530
it needs a black censor bar across the 'tip' of the sushi roll in the NOW column
>>337776158
Apparently not
Could be a muh regulations thing - sometimes it's easier to use natural sources just to avoid having to verify that your product is safe.
>>337776051
It depends on how it's cooked
>>337776120
Muh gains
>>337776287
>insect aren't animals tho
>>337774840
>vegan
How do you know when someone is a vegan?Don't worry, they'll tell you
>>337776251
Dragon dildoes aren't vegan friendly. It's exploitation of fantasy animals.
>>337776287
what
>>337775127
That movie was shit, mate. Kill yourself.
I moved from Hawaii to California recently
what the fuck is wrong with you fags, destroying the good name of sushi with your bastardized fusion bullshit like the sushirrito
have you no shame
>>337776228
humans are animals though
don't you know a thing about biology?
Plants are alive, how do you justify eating them?
>>337774840
>screations
>>337776412
stop raping my culture you uncultured hawaiian belly dancer
>>337776432
They scream in pain when you damage them, too
>>337776432
They don't have a fear response that I personally can empathize with.
>>337776412
>good name of sushi
It's faggots like you the think sushi is some holy god food that ruin sushi.
>>337776432
They don't show pain, just like many insects
>>337776432
show me a sentient plant speciesinb4 picture of someone on life support
>>337776287
>insect aren't animals
>>337776393
>>337776397
well.
I could say I made a mistake and was thinking about "mammals" when talking about animals or I could keep going.
Fuck it
>Implying insects are animals
>>337776432
They do not have sense of pain beyond what is enough for fedoralords to argue that veganism is immoral.
>live in japan
>eat lots of sushi
>even 7/11 sushi
>go back to america
>friends take me to their favorite sushi place
>they are so excited to show their friend that lived in japan their sushi place
>it's shit even worse than japanese 7/11 sushi
Felt really bad for them loving absolute shit and not knowing how much worse the sushi in america is.
>>337774840
Vegans are retarded. We as humans have teeth and jaws designed specifically to be able to eat meat, among other things. Its only natural to eat other animals, what makes us any diferent?
>>337776647
japanese mcdolnalds is also better then murican mcdonalds
>>337776396
I'll tell you because I can't eat anything else, cunt
>>337776678
Uh...
You're not just wrong
You're also retarded
Reminder that humans will never, EVER stop eating meat.
Stay mad nu-males.
>>337776568
Venus fly trap moves, reacts to stimuli and consumes bugs.
>>337776647
where in america because that actually is important
>>337776647
The quality isn't THAT different from my experiences. The problem is jap sushi is literal cheap as fuck fast food tier and in Murrica it's overpriced "look i'm so multicultural" tier
>>337776647
>tfw even the airport sushi was fucking amazing
I miss it senpai
>>337776647
Chances are that your friends wouldn't like Japanese sushi either.
You like it because you grew with it.
>>337776698
they also have some incredibly funky shit on the menu sometimes
>>337776647
>not knowing how much worse the sushi in america is
Just like every cuisine, it is VERY dependent on city. You can't just go to a random city and find good sushi.
What is special about your sushi that makes it so much better than what you've had over here?
>>337774840
>vegan
>vapes
>???
Tell me, /v/
Whats the third link to the holy trinity of "I'm an obnoxious asshole"?
>>337776909
>Tumblr blog
>>337776765
We can also DIGEST meat just fine. Humans have eaten meat, no matter how far back in time you go.
>>337776767
Humans already did, ghouls masquerading as humans aren't human.
>>337774530
>food analogy
>that also tries to justify weeb games and cosmetic DLC
It's gone too far
>>337775359
>>337775206
How can you faggotfags eat fucking meat, it's fucking gross as fuck. what the fuck
>>337776965
Let's not forget we can eat and digest bones just fine
>>337776974
>sushi is weeb now
What the fuck happened
>>337776647
Food is food. It's good or bad based on who makes it with what, not where it was made.
>>337777023
You are the true faggotfag, faggot.
>>337776968
>vegan
>has holier-than-thou attitude
you cannot fabricate this
>>337775549
>eating meat
>stupid
>>337776765
You know it's a fact that Chimps eat bugs right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inFkERO30oM
And yes I definitely agree that eating a diet largely consisting of animal protein is retarded, but so is not having some meat because "I'm not a tiger hurr"
>>337776784
California, New York, Texas and Louisiana. People like taking me to sushi places.
>>337776812
Learn to read. I'm from America.
>>337777028
Bone marrow is super healthy. Inuits basically existed on a blubber and marrow diet because if they'd just eaten meat they would have starved to death.
Apparently marrow tastes really good too but I've never had it.
>>337777028
Your point? If bones tasted as good as meat, we'd sure as shit be eating them on a regular basis.
>>337776051
Everything literally gives you cancer you fucking idiot. Oxygen does too. And that never stopped you from breathing.
>>337775206
>"what if someone wants their steak rare?"
>"We kindly ask them to leave."
>>337777029
The sushi in the OP obviously represents Japanese games. The burger represents Western games. Are you retarded?
>>337777120
People do eat bones.
Bone marrow more specifically, it's a delicacy in many cultures.
>>337774945
I've always wanted to do this, but nobody sells uncut rolls over here.
>>337776228
If man wasn't supposed to ever eat meat then we wouldn't be able to fucking digest it like a proper herbivore.
>>337777023
>How can you faggots eat a salad, that lettuce was grown and fertilized in literal shit
Don't get me wrong, I'm a vegetarian simply cause I don't like the texture of meat, but you're a faggot
>/v/ Videogames
>>337774530
I like "now" better.
It lets me not ruin my burger with tomatoes.
>>337776715
There's a difference between can't and won't
>>337775978
>buddhist monks
>good
They are a bunch of communist NEETs who do nothing productive no wonder their countries are fucking shit and only retarded liberals follow buddhism in the west.
>>337776765
One of the biggest breakthroughs in human evolution was the adaptation of an omnivorous diet. The increase in calorie intake caused our brains to become bigger as a result of our new food sources.
If you deny eating meat with the reason of believing it's not good for us, you're admitting that you're vegan because you want to be a retard.
You could simply just say "I don't like the taste of meat" and literally no one would bother you afterwards.
>>337777191
I rest my case.
>>337777165
>two different images to represent the same thing
Other countries are basically irrelevant at this point anyways.
>>337777208
Cows can digest meat
>>337777232
*tips fedora*
>>337777218
Congratulations, you are still paying more for less.
>>337777120
Actually a lot of people eat bones regularly, its just the "west" that kinda grew it out of their diet.
>>337774530
The secret is that they rolled a poop up in the second one.
>>337777283
Buddhist monks literally go door to door asking for food, they are faggots.
>>337777264
So you are retarded
>>337777039
Spoken like a true American that's never left his country and probably state.
>>337777120
Go to Asia.
A lot of cultures eat bones, shithead.
>>337777316
We still use bones to make soup stock and shit, pretty much the same thing as eating them.
>>337777348
Worse than shit. Sushi with natto.
>>337776909
anti-theists
>try to make sushi roll
>it doesn't stay together and just unravels
>>337777378
Please explain to me why location matters more than the skill of the cook and the quality of the ingredients.
Unless it's some specific food that can only be grown in a specific biome, in which case you can just build a greenhouse to mimic it if you really had to, I can't think of any reasons why food is inherently better or worse based on the name of the country it was created and consumed in.
>>337777375
>somehow including something that doesn't convey any new information is completely rational
No, (you) fuck off
>>337777115
From my experience, you go to NY for steaks, and TX/LA for shit like Creole. I imagine CA would be more along the lines of "healthy" food. Still, it gets down more to cities on what foods they do better at. Restaurants will have similar taste profiles within a city due to sharing customers. Go to another city and you may have a customer base with a different background, thus changing flavors used in that city.
>>337777461
Did you use the right kind of rice? Standard white rice is wrong.
>>337777409
>pretty much
Almost. I love making me some homemade beef soup stock with bones, but i have never used bone meal in soups or any cooking at all. But yea, apparently marrow is really good for you, especially joints.
>>337777378
>Muh authenticity
This is the biggest meme ever. You'd literally avoid a restaurant that serves good Italian food because the cook is Irish?
>>337776765
well you heard it here first folks, birds of prey shouldn't actually be eating animals
>>337777461
you fucked up your rice. it has to be sticky
>>337777504
Getting good sushi in mainland USA is difficult since it's so far from the ocean. Fresh fish undoubtedly tastes better than even few hours old fish. Even in Japan, the further inland you go, the worse the sushi becomes.
>>337776968
>no true Scotsman
That's a logical fallacy m8
>>337777535
oh yes washed it and everything
i'm starting to think the japanese use their semen as a secret adhesive ingredient
>>337777454
>natto
Who thought rotten beans covered in snot was a good idea?
>>337777687
If by semen you mean vinegar, then you would be correct.
>>337777687You can try
>>337774840
Video games are not vegan.
>>337777737
I swear spider webs is an ingredient.
>>337774840
>Thread derailed by cheap bait
Disappointing,but not unexpected.
>>337774840
Is "bee vomit" supposed to be honey?
>>337774840
>bee vomit
so honey?
>>337776765
Its known chimps kill and eat monkeys. Hunt those buggers down in the trees.
Missed the censored/removed content for western released of jap games matey
>>337777687
You need the right kind of rice, and the right ammount of cooking. Rice itself is sticky by nature, so i have no clue how you managed to fuck up.
>>337777656
>quality of ingredients
Location obviously plays into the role of freshness, but that's not what I meant about location.
Fresh food is better than not fresh food. Unless it's cheese or wine. And it depends on just how not fresh it is and how it's been stored.
Food is complex as hell really. I love it. Maybe I should have gone to cooking school and just tried to become a world class chef.
>>337774840
>bee vomit
Is this the logic of vegans?
Honey is bad because it's literal bee vomit?
I've had food poisoning the past four days, and I've been drinking tea with honey several times a day. Honey is fucking good for you, it's anti-bacterial, it's insanely nutritious, and it's humane.
If vegans have something against EVEN THAT, then there's no redeeming them.
>>337775206
daaaaaayum, son
If eating meat is so bad than why are the smartest living creatures on Earth omnivorous or carnivorous?
Are vegans literally stupid by making their brains shrink from avoiding meat?
>>337777880
They also sometimes snatch baby chimps out of their mothers' arms and eat them
>>337777901
>>337777901
>vegans won't eat honey
I just now learned this. Holy shit, how fucking retarded can one loudmouthed group be?
Can vegan blowjobers swallow?
>>337777901
Not to mention the bee industry literally keeps most agriculture in the world running.
>>337778038
Probably not. Semen comes from live animals.
>>337778038
how else do they get protein?
>>337774806
I have never physically been in the presence of sushi.
Have you ever noticed it's always vegans derailing threads with their bullshit? You never see someone going into like a Dark Souls thread and going "Well Gwyn was obviously a meat eater because he was so strong and seath was a scrawny vegan dragon faggot with no gains and if you don't eat meat you're literally hitler."
>>337775182
>Final Fantasy XV - complete burger w/ bacon
>assuming this about a game that hasn't even been released
It's like you want to be disappointed
>>337778001
Vegan's don't eat any kind of animal product period. Doesn't matter if it's humane or not. The logic behind it being "well I can't say I'm vegan if I eat this extremely healthy and nutritious honey"
>>337777901
Honey isn't anti-bacterial, familia. Honey hosts a shit ton of botulinum bacteria that secretes shit that's harmful to other bacteria.
If you give honey to your 2 year old kid, you'll probably kill them because their immunity isn't strong enough yet.
Yes, Anon, you're as retarded as vegans for not knowing this.
>>337777202
make some, anon. Look up a local asian supermarket, they'll have everything you need. Nori and rice are cheap, and you can put whatever you want inside.
I can only eat so much sushi at a time though. After 5 or 6 pieces my stomach starts to get upset.
>>337775206
Gross
>>337777202
Just buy some hand rolls retard
>>337778118
Fuck. I should have gotten some honey at the grocery store.
>>337777901
>honey is anti-bacterial
no it isn't
>>337775206
I hate to say it but the best I can do is medium-rare.
>>337775978
>digestion
>rotting
BTW, you realize that plants rot too, right? And that you can consume tons of parasites from eating garden-fresh veggies if improperly prepped?
Buying bags of frozen veggies, nibbling on leaves and guzzling soy milk isn't eating naturally, retard. You need a wide variety of proteins, carbs, and fats to be a big, strong, energetic man who can do manly things.
When the qt across the hall needs help moving furniture, you'll regret not eating actual food when you can't lift a fucking nightstand.
>>337778170
More like less than a year old.
Also Clostridium isn't always in honey, there's just a chance it could contaminate it since insects are bound to get into dirt which might have it which then gets in the honey. The bacteria natively in honey is pretty harmless.
>>337776228
>vegan
>knows jack shit about biology
Sounds about right.
>>337778118
I don't get it. It's not even a biological product of bees, it's not like milk coming from cows. It's literally just nectar from flowers in their second stomach being processed by enzymes from their stomach bile.
It's literally the same thing as eating a cow's vomited half-digested grass from its first stomach.
I'm all for having a vegetable-centric diet, greens are good for you.
But holy shit honey is like the pinnacle of what's good for you. It's the most nutritious thing nature can produce, and even bears and badgers want that sweet goodness.
>>337777776
>>337777777
>>337777778
>>337778190
>you can put whatever you want inside
I was gonna call bullshit, but I remembered that Hawaiians have fucking Spam sushi
>>337777254
that's not their goal and you know it, it's for the attention and to feel superior even if they aren't or that no one cares.
>>337776968
Are you 13 years old?
>>337776909
underfags
>>337778190
That's a damn good idea, I have a cool Asian market nearby. I got some good shit last time I was there. What's the best kind of rice for it?
>>337778402
>It's the most nutritious thing nature can produce
Are you being a meme or are you just fucking with me? Honey doesn't have shit worth of anything in terms of vitamins, fiber or proteins. It has a ton of sugar.
If your fat ass thinks candy is nutritious, you should reevaluate your life.
Go eat some meat and vegis, fatso.
>>337778437
I've seen mango sushi and cheetos sushi in American restaurants.
Get on my fucking level m8s
>>337774621
>>337774694
That's not even sushi.
Moreover, the stuff you westerners eat isn't actually sushi. You're just eating fish and/or vegetables rolled up into rice. Sushi isn't really sushi if the rice isn't vinegar rice. That stuff can get really strong for people who didn't grow up on it. Of course, it depends on the chef and the establishment, but there's some pretty strong sushi here that will make you cough and gag a bit if you're not used to the strong vinegar taste.
>>337776909
atheist, they are more annoying than fake religious people and dumb over religious people.
>>337775550
So you just have a shitty taste and you call people who unironically like sushi as "hispters and snobs".
What a stupid asshole you are.
>>337778095
Because that wouldn't trigger enough people to be worth it.
You're all retards for falling for this bait.
>>337778243
My HEB has a dank honey dispenser. I got a bottle full last time. It's so fucking good. Shit this thread is making want to make some green tea and pour in honey.
>/v/ Vegans
buncha slack jawed faggots we have in here.
>>337775109
i wonder what these teeth are about
>>337778628
It's makizushi, LITERALLY means "rolled sushi". It's still sushi, just a different kind
>>337778617
Holy fuck Turkey Breast & Black Forest Ham.
>>337778578
Depends on the honey. It is loaded with sugar so should be eaten in moderation, but Manuka Honey has some fairly impressive properties.
>>337778592
>cheetos sushi
>>337778570
Calrose. Don't forget rice vinegar. Try putting some cucumber and fish in your roll, shit's good.
>>337778402
Honey is not the "pinnacle of what's good for you." It's just sugar. If you eat too much of it, it'll make you fat just like anything else. Animals love it because of how much energy it gives. Animals don't care about their diets because wild animals are always in prime physical form due to, you know, exerting all of their energy all day, every day.
It's a much better substitute for white sugar when used for cooking or spreads, but it's still just sugar. Pretty magical sugar, mind you.
>>337778578
Honey is full of minerals and antioxidents.
1k calories per cup though holy fuck.
>>337778652
>fake religious people and dumb over religious people
What
>>337778402
>actually fell for the bee jew lies
Not eating meat is wasteful and sad since all those animals that died for you to eat gets thrown in the trash.
>>337778628
Fuck this thread, post more shoebills
>>337778851
>1k calories per cup
Who the fuck would ever need to eat a cup of honey in one day?
>>337778887
>Iron 0%
But your average serving of honey has 8% of your daily iron needs. Manuka Honey has like four times as much too.
>>337778851
I could just pop some supplement pills and chomp on some spinach, nigger. I'm not going to eat melted sugar because it has that.
>>337778887
Don't talk shit on bees, Anon, bees are total bros.
>>337778901
That's the best argument you can come up with?
>>337778780
I want to hug gabumon.
>>337778402
Vegans are babies, they would die from honey.
>>337778978
>Honeyfag reading comprehension
You read the top left where it says tbsp, fatass?
But you only get that much iron if you eat a fucking CUP of Honey.
Who the fuck would be that fat and stupid?
>>337778961
>need
GET OFF MY BOARD YOU STATIST FUCK YOU'LL NEVER TAKE MY RIGHTS
>>337778987
AND YOU TAKE YOUR PILL POPPING DEGENERACY AND LEAVE WITH HIM
But yeah honey is cool because you can use it replace regular sugar in a lot of recipes, and it's a lot healthier than your average cup'o sugar. Also because it's delicious.
>>337779052
I want to hug Gomamon
>>337775109
That's funny, i hear that vegans aren't human.
>>337778978
>average serving of honey
holy shit dude what state do you live in that the average serving of honey is near a cup?
>>337777846
Got more of these? I remember one with Vladimir and shit.
>>337779052
Tokomon a best.
>>337778628
That's not sushi, that's ceviche
>support capitalism
>expect not capitalism
>>337774530
>bethesda invented cosmetic DLC
>the entire fucking world threw a shitfit about it
>the Japanese do the same exact thing a decade later, but in a far more egregious manner
>suddenly it's A-OK
I know this is a Polynesian Worker's Party subforum, but come the fuck on.
>>337779167
>being humane makes you inhuman
I've met enough to know that not all vegans are self-righteous assholes who shove their diet down everyone's throat. They get a bad rap because of peta and the few that want the world to know what they eat and that everyone else is a terrible person for not doing the same.
>>337775359
Looks like quorn
>>337779564
quorn is the shit
>>337779192
Tokomon can't be best because Veemon is best.
I would severely drop the amount of meat I consume if insect products were available for a reasonable price here. Sadly for some reason in yurop insects are still a very minority thing even though they would solve a lot of problems in food production.
I could never be a vegan. I love cooking all sorts of nice stuff but when I see the garbage that my vegan friends "cook" I just laugh at them. For fucks sake if you can't use eggs, milk, cheese and other stuff you might as well kill yourself from the fact that you limit your range of food so much. I might become a pescovegetarian but meh, chicken is delicious
>>337779802
man I haven't seen a good grafics cat in a while
>>337775206
>Here, take this piece of raw meat we charred from the outside and didn't even reduce blood out of it
American "cuisine", people
>>337779914
>blood
>>337779914
>charred from the outside
How do Europeans cook if not from the outside?
>>337779914
>raw
>charred
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blood
Epic
>>337778852
Probably your Sunday Christian mother who gets uppity over you saying the Lord's name in vain, but turns around and lies to their friends about how expensive their purse was for the sake ofbeing vain
>>337780093
Slowly in an oven wrapped in aluminum foil
>>337778852
If you don't know these then you probably don't live in the midwest of the United States.
>>337774530
Right is supposed to be nip games? If so, where's -2 (or delta or rebranding same monhun) and pokeyman double releases?
>>337776647
Food in the states are horrid
I travel a lot for work and when going to the US, its the only time I cook my own food instead of going out to eat.
Honestly don't know how they get so fat.
>>337780126
>>337780337
Aren't just about all first world religious people fakes in this day and age? They want the benefits while cherrypicking what they believe and exerting as little effort as possible.
If you want to see real religion in action, check out the middle east.
>>337777225
this
>>337777225
How do you know they aren't missing half of their digestive tract?
As stuck-up and obnoxious most vegans are, at least they've given us healthier pastries that taste just as good as milk-and-egg.
When I visit my mother she's usually made a batch of her vegan chocolate chip and peanut butter cookies. And that is some good shit.
Best part is they only have five ingredients: choco chips, PB, oatmeal, flour, brown sugar
They haven't come close to replicating the glory that is meat, unfortunately.
>>337781156
I made an assumption
>>337781241
How dare you.
>>337778997
If god didn't want us to eat dead animals, why did he make them out of meat, huh?
>>337781241
You know what they say when you assume, anon.
>>337781323
That I'm generally correct
YOU MAKE AN
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>>337781190
>As stuck-up and obnoxious most vegans are
You don't hear about the ones who aren't. It's always a loud minority that makes the biggest stink.
Also, seitan is some good shit depending on how it's prepared. If I like the restaurant I gladly choose it over meat. Even my diehard hillbilly grandparents enjoy it despite them ridiculing it as being vegan trash before they tried it.
>>337779337
being humane is an artificial term invented by weaklings who succumbed to empathy for beings they have control over. It's counter-productive and the defying nature, you pussy
>>337781721
It's not just about being humane to animals bruh. There's a shitload of human issues associated with raising and slaughtering billions of livestock every year.
>>337778628
Goddamn shoebills scare the shit out of me.
>>337776765
We eat both, and it's pretty much agreed upon that our varied diet, espeically fish and other fats from meat, contributed extensively to our ability to develop the largest brain to body mass in the world. Cooking food and eating meat got us to where we are. Vegans are literally denying their bodies vital nutrients that developed healthy brains for our ancestors and should be legally considered retarded.
>>337776287
>implying owls are birds
>>337781912
http://evolvinghealthscience.blogspot.com/2012/12/why-you-can-all-stop-saying-meat-eating.html
>>337776287
There are plants that absorb nurtients from poop that comes from carnivores. Those poop nutrients came from meat. Therefore plants also eat meat.
If it's okay to eat plants, and things plants eat, then it's okay to eat meat.
>>337782072
>Cooking Was More Important Than Meat for Brains
>Cooking increases the net energy gained from food from 2 main routes
>It increases digestibility
>increases the digestibility of meat, by denaturing the protein
>t reduces the physiological costs of digesting our food - because cooking softens food, so it is easier to digest
Straight from your article. Thank you for supporting my post about the combination of the two being key.
>>337774530
all i see is loss
>removing hamburger patty
Americans on suicide watch
>>337782216
The point was that meat was not necessary. The problem was simply a lack of carbs and energy, which limited the amount of glucose we needed to fuel our brains. We were also already intelligent to begin with. The ability to cook potatoes was far more vital to our needs than meat ever was.
And it goes without saying that it's a complete non-issue in this day and age. I always find it amusing when people attempt to pass off a comparison of modern life to those of neanderthals as a valid argument.
>>337779287
>capitalism takes it course, and videogames sales plummet
IT JUST WORKS
How the fuck am I supposed to get a decent amount of protien going vegan? I mean yeah, I could eat literally half a kilo of lentils and only get 45g of protein or just eat some chicken, not to mention the cost. Fuck that, vegans are small cucks. Inb4 I know Le ebin bodybuilder who doesn't roid and is vegan.
>>337782423
I'm at a loss for words
>>337782948
>He doesn't grow his own lentils using fertilizer made up of chicken corpses
>>337782948
What happened between panel 1 and 2?
Like he's holding it up and then it's suddenly upside down.
>>337782948
Whey protein?
>>337782948
> Inb4 I know Le ebin bodybuilder who doesn't roid and is vegan.
That ebin bodybuilder is arguably the strongest man in the world and has numerous world records under his belt. You can claim he just roids all day, but even if he did, it's not like other bodybuilders aren't, so why is he still stronger than they are?
>>337775206
My favorite is blue steak, but this is just sloppy. The sear outside lasted too long, that's why you get that medium ring around the rare and charring the skin makes the whole thing taste that way.
Pic related is the appropriate way to eat raw steak for my fellow blue-loving connoisseurs. Note that the skin only has a light sear, enough to kill external bacteria and warm the steak.
>>337779491
>Getting hungover
Shit slav
Can't get hungover if you're drunk 24/7
>>337782887
>I always find it amusing when people attempt to pass off a comparison of modern life to those of neanderthals as a valid argument
According to the world bank, almost 6 billion of the 7.1 billion people on this planet make less than $2 a day and are in extreme poverty. There's such a small percentage of people that live in this "modern world" you refer to that comparing them to fucking neanderthals living off the land and barely getting by is more accurate than the way you view the world.
Good work at proving my second point about vegans being retarded.
>its not sushi its rolled sushi!
okay /v/
>>337783165
The cost and whey also makes me fart all day.
I've had a blue steak before
Not for me
Rather go medium rare or rare
>>337781790
No there aren't, that's exactly what every single organism in the animal kingdom has been doing for a milennia, and if we don't kill the animals that we've bred specifically to be killed, then how do you expect their populations to be controlled so they don't completely fuck up the cycle of nature?
Being vegan isn't a logical choice, it's an emotional one. All you have to do is admit it.
>>337783165
>Im pretty sure whey comes from milk
>>337782948
>I could eat literally half a kilo of lentils
That's all you really end up eating at a point. Beans, lentils, spinach and mushrooms are like 90% of what I eat and I'm just vegtarian.
Making all that fancy food you see online is a pain in the ass and nobody but housewives has time for it.
>>337783165
>Whey protein
Not if you're vegan, it's a bi-product of dairy.
>>337776765
This proves nothing lmao. So we can't easily bite into a live animal to tear it apart, I can bite into any prepared meat pretty easily. Seems pretty great to me.
Let me know the next time you're out in the wild ripping apart giraffes with your flattened molars.
>>337783436
>fart all day
Welcome to the vegan life.
>>337775549
>vegans
>logic
Pick one
>>337783168
>vegan gains
>strongest bodybuilder in the world
:^)
>>337780121
someone change that to one japanese purple burgers.
It looks and tastes exactly the same, but i dont want a fucking ugly ass purple burger/ 10/10 ign machina seal of approval x-play is rolling in its grave all the fuck over my batman game!
i have no pic related
>>337777901
not to mention they could have just as easily referred to it as bee shit and gotten the same reaction whilst being more right
I see loss.
>>337778001
>vegans won't eat honey
>google this
>find site about the 'enslavement of bees'
http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm
so what is the case (health-wise) against it not being okay to eat meats in controlled portions? is it a problem to have a few of your meals out of the week to have meat?
>>337782887
Wow thanks anon. I never knew potatoes were available all across the globe and were a common part of anyone's diet thousands of years ago.
>>337782948
he looks so sad
I would just like to say that a huge majority of scientific studies done in North America about food could be called "Fast food eaters vs. Non-fast food eaters" since such a huge portion of the American population consumed fast food, but they will be titled something else in order to get more attention and therefore more funding money. (Wow it ends up fast food eaters aren't vegan or vegetarian, who knew?)
>>337776909
>vegan
>vapes
>"I don't vote because it doesn't matter"
>>337783752
US has been censoring Nip games for YEARS. Early Castlevania has nearly all the Christian imagery ripped out of it. RPGs had enemies censored. Translations mean completely different things.
It's only become an issue now because of the way media travels so quickly.
>>337782887
>agriculture came before hunting/gathering
>the nomadic hunting tribes of early man that lived their whole lives following herds to kill, cook, and eat didn't exist
Thanks for redpilling me on anthropology, anon. What were all those arrowheads, knives, and cooking implements for, then? Privilege checking?
>>337781912
if they're getting the nutrients you get from meat in some other form, its fine isn't it? like some people just don't like meat, i don't know how or why, but they don't. there's no ethical or moral reason behind it either.
>>337783762
IIRC that's the best way to eat. Eat meat, but eat it sparingly. It's bad for you when you shovel it in your face every meal, just like anything else.
>>337783635
I was thinking more this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZIbWtCYxU
>>337784219
I'd hate to see his grocery bill. The amount he has to spend on nuts and lentils must be insane.
>>337783467
Every single organism in the animal kingdom has been raising billions of livestock every year? Their population wouldn't be an issue if we didn't breed them. What are you even trying to say here?
>>337777202
>cut sushi
>cut dicks
ebin
>>337784330
Nuts and lentils are cheap, but yeah, he must eat a shitload.
>>337784418
>nuts are cheap
Cashews are $18 a kilo where I live.
>>337783997
More likely because people have expected standards to change by now. Such changes in the past were done because companies were afraid that such mature imagery would garner negative reactions from the US, but looking at the current average demographic and the majority of the games coming out now you would think that such censorship would stop already. Especially if it doesn't make much sense in context, like toning down the titties for M rated games or removing nazi symbols from the nazis.
>>337783997
also Red Cross related things like red cross on hospitals and first aid kits in loads of video games are also removed and either replaced with a heart or the Rod of Asclepius or Caduceus
FF games also had shit like the Holy spell being change to either Pearl, White or Fade. And Death spell replaced with Doom which kinda nice since it made the actual Doom spell renamed to a more spooky name of Condemned.
I think the english Yu Gi Oh also had to make up the "get sent to the Shadow Realm" line because they can't say kill or die
>>337784032
The amount of protien in 85g of beef is 22g
The amount of broccoli needed to be consumed to obtain that amount of protien is 800g
So yeah, if you want to consume nearly 10x the amount of food to get the same vital nurtients you need from meat then sure, go for it. Nearly all vegans don't eat enough though and are extremely defecient on many vital nutrients.
>>337776647
jap sushi is fresh
american sushi isn't
>>337784530
and that 85g takes 20 times more to produce than 800g of not meat.
>>337784524
>companies were afraid that such mature imagery would garner negative reactions from the US
It's absolutely worse now than it's ever been when it comes to negative reactions. SJW's are ready to gut anyone that doesn't pander.
>>337776432
it is more efficient than eating animals, as animals have to be fed much more than their body weight of plants. so less plants would die in all if everyone converted to veganism as ironic as it is.
>>337784513
Considering it's only one per apple, I'm not surprised. It's amazing they get so many of them.
>>337784524
You don't think it makes sense, but you aren't the one sat in front of pages and pages of market research and are making a product witht he aim to maximise profits.
>>337784331
don't put words in my mouth m8. I was talking about eating other organisms.
the reason we breed animals is so that we can feed our bodies and our brains the hich concentration of nutrients that they need in order to grow. I agree that the livestock problem has gotten out of hand, but that's not solely a vegan issue and is more to do with corporations stuffing corn down the throats of animals that shouldn't be eating corn.
my point is that you can't stop killing animals and then magically expect all the animals that aren't being eaten to disappear. eat more meat, it'll help you think better.
>>337780121
>GOTY Edition doesn't have the Expansion Packs
JUST
>>337784653
>thinks you can measure beef production in 85g chunks
are you actually retarded? the cost of beef is determined by the cost of rearing the whole animal, which also produces milk, butter, cheese, whey and in the case of calves, rennet and veal.
stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
>>337784894
>numbers out of my ass
This topic is the fastest rising topic in environmental conservation.
>>337784810
>post 2010
>expansion packs
I don't care about the moral and ethical issues of meat consumption. I like eating meat because it is delicious.
>>337778991
then maybe you wouldn't want them to be farmed. they work their entire lives for that honey for their offsprings and the future of their colonies. they get smoked out (enough so many just drop to the ground dead) and then their lives work taken from them. how can people not sympathize with someone not wanting to support this
>>337784653
>moving the goal posts
Since you can do it, I will do the same.
That 10x for the same protien content is also lower quality, less digestable protien. Meaning you need to consume even more to absorb the same amount of protien. Even then, it's lower quality and insufficent for our bodies.
>Not all foods contain the same type of protein.
>Meat, eggs and dairy products are considered complete high-quality sources of protein that provide the full package of essential amino acids needed to stimulate muscle growth and improve weight management
>Plant proteins such as grains, legumes, nuts and seeds are incomplete proteins in that they do not provide sufficient amounts of essential amino acids
>Unlike plant proteins, beef is the food supply’s most easily absorbed source of iron. In addition, beef is an excellent source of readily available zinc. The absorption of zinc from beef is about four times greater than that from a high-fiber breakfast cereal. As with iron, including meat in your diet also improves the absorption of zinc from other foods
We digest, absorb, and use meat nutrients far more effectively than plant sources. GL eating your weight in broccoli every day kid.
http://beefmagazine.com/blog/are-vegetable-proteins-equal-protein-beef
>>337784752
>my point is that you can't stop killing animals and then magically expect all the animals that aren't being eaten to disappear. eat more meat, it'll help you think better
The world would never just stop eating animals overnight. That shit would take a long time. Your concerns about their population overwhelming and destroying habitats if they were released, which I assume is what you meant, would never happen because their numbers would gradually dwindle as people ate less meat. If you're so concerned about the environment, then you wouldn't be eating meat. Until they learn how to properly grow it in a lab and not taste like ass, it will remain completely unsustainable.
>>337775653
Frig off randy
>>337777846
Artyom and Zakhar are clearly my niggas
>>337784653
>>337785053
kek from that same article
>vegetarian diets are tied to generally poorer health, poorer quality of life and a higher need for health care than their meat-eating counterparts.
>Overall, vegetarians were found to be in a poorer state of health compared to other dietary groups. Vegetarians reported higher levels of impairment from disorders, chronic diseases, and suffer significantly more often from anxiety/depression
Vegans literally unhealthy people causing us to pay more for healthcare. When will vegecucks learn?
>>337784982
then provide a source that takes the factors I mentioned above into account instead of spouting buzzwords you environmentalist shill.
Regardless of that fact, some people just like eating meat, and it's healthier to eat, easier to digest and more cost effective to purchase than a tub of brocolli.
>>337784530
>comparing meat to fucking broccoli in how much protein they provide to try and prove your point
Bruh.
People really don't need as much protein as you seem to think. Vegans can meet their quota easily unless they're this guy
>>337784219
>>337785049
bees aren't people and don't think like people. stop treating them like people.
>>337785028
I don't even have the capacity to care about all the human suffering going on in the world, I don't get how people expect me to care about animal suffering as well.
>>337785282
Broccoli by nutrient is 45% protien you nigger. It's one of the best examples to compare to.
>>337785213
>website called beefmagazine
>this will totally be an unbias and balanced article
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/664S.full
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2012/978672/
>>337785053
>beefmagazine
Solid source their friend.
>>337785253
And in the articles I linked in >>337785437 you can see the discussion, please don't just read the introduction/abstract then post. Because it'll be obvious that you did.
To quote the end.
Ideally, people should always be allowed to choose the diet they want, but under the current pressures imposed by overpopulation, resource scarcity, and overconsumption, absolute dietary freedom could soon, lamentably, become a luxury. Diet matters (15). Flexibility and opportunism in the diet can be very valuable in reducing the demand for food, especially as humans attempt to transition to sustainable societies. Encouraging individuals to eat more efficiently (ie, descend) on the food chain, consuming less meat and more plant-based foods, may be one of the types of measures that will lead to increased sustainability and reduced environmental costs of food production systems (18).
>>337785327
>Vegans feel self righteous and must protect the poor exploited animals
>Vegans are totally okay with the poor exploited humans required to harvest their vegetables
Literally double think
>>337776678
Why do people think that this is a real argument? I see this posted so much, and I just don't understand what is happening in your brain.
If you want to make an argument about our jaws being able to eat meat being an indicator that we should, nutritionally, eat meat, then that's a good starting idea that you can kind of look into and base your philosophy of consumption around, but instead you just stop before getting to any of the good stuff, or any stuff at all. There are lots of obnoxious asshole vegans that don't think through their shit either, as >>337777901 and rely on "it just sounds right to me" arguments, but judging by posts like this a lot of you are not much better. Do you even really care that much about what's natural. Personally, I'd get fucking aug'd out and have my consciousness uploaded to the net if I could.
>>337778001
>>337778118
>>337778402
To be fair, I have seen some people that say they are vegans that do eat honey, but avoid things like milk and eggs. It does make them technically not vegan, but I guess it would be kind of dumb to start coming up with a million names for "vegan except for honey" and "vegan except for whatever-the-fuck" when just saying "I'm vegan" gets the idea across well enough.
>>337785313
i don't think just because they are different they need to be treated differently.
>>337785593
>they're different but that doesn't mean we should acknowledge that they're different!
are you aware of how fucking delusional you sound?
>>337775550
You remind me of the guy who believed that no one liked music.
Not a genre of music, just all music.
>>337776396
It would be pretty rude to not tell someone if you are ever going to be in a situation where they or someone they know is going to be making you food.
>>337785384
Or you know just beans and lentils which contain over three times as much.
Again though, meeting your daily quota for protein is not hard. You don't even have to think about it.
>>337778263
Yes it is
It contains anti-bodies produced by the bees from exposure to the local environment, as well as sucks the water out of bacteria and contains toxins that kill them
it basically never spoils because of this
Noodlely armed vegans cucks. Go suck chads dick so you can finally get some protein. Bet you look like shit.
>>337785650
Did you even understand what they said?
>>337776432
Incredibly easily.
>>337774530
Sushi is gross AF
And I don't like shrimp either.
>>337778402
bears eat beehives for the larva, the honey and honeycomb is a bonus
>>337785650
acknowledgement and action are two different things you retard
>>337785706
lentils are still incomplete sources of protien.
The only plant source that is a complete protien source like meat is quinoa, and 185g of it only contains 8g of protien. Meaning you need to eat almost 600g a day to get the same amount you do from 3oz of beef.
>>337776765
That's funny because I could have sworn my prefered food was meat. But that rainbow info graph must know what I like better than me, right?
>/v/ argues about food thread
go drink your water
>>337785916
That's why you can eat a variety. Nobody eats just a pound of lentils for dinner.
>>337785114
>expecting most people to ever stop eating meat in the first place
the only reason vegans do it is to feel self-righteous.
>this apocalypse you mention would never happen if the animals were released because the population would dwindle
do you not know that animals are capable of breeding on their own? do you not know that they're capable of destroying whole swathes of forest if left unchecked? do you not realize that if a prey population outgrows a predator population then it leads to an imbalance in nature?
>>337776765
>strong hydrochloric acid
>weak hydrochloric acid
I don't know why this extremely triggering picture triggered me hardest at this part
>>337785028
yeah moral and ethical issues are gay fag shit
>>337786009
>do you not know that animals are capable of breeding on their own? do you not know that they're capable of destroying whole swathes of forest if left unchecked? do you not realize that if a prey population outgrows a predator population then it leads to an imbalance in nature?
you mean like what people are doing
>>337785975
You're still missing the point. To get even close to the amount of just 3oz of beef, which is damn near just a mouth full, you have to eat pounds of vegetable source foods.
The beef is also easier to digest and absorb for your body. ffs vegans are retarded. It's okay you're a vegan cuck, but don't act like it's a better lifestyle when it's proven that they are as a whole one of the most unhealthy portions of the population.
>>337785839
Pretty sure that most animals just get attracted to sweet smelling stuff, rather than stopping to think about what parts of a beehive is most nutritious.
>>337786009
>the only reason vegans do it is to feel self-righteous.
It's not going to be an option eventually, you will have to reduce meat intake unless you're rich.
>>337785792
yeah, I did, which is why I pointed out that it's the same delusional shit that led to the problems caused by multiculturalism. I don't think you did though.
>>337777146
I c what u did ther
>>337786009
You're listing a problem that humanity caused and you're still falling back on the same impossible scenario.
>the only reason vegans do it is to feel self-righteous.
Whatever you say to make yourself feel better. Eventually something is going to have to change as we continue to cram more people onto this planet.
>>337783658
Shantae is so cute
>>337786113
Whoa there champ, no need to get so testy. You're still willfully ignoring the real point. Protein is piss easy to get regardless of what you eat. It's one of the biggest non-issues people bring up against vegan/vegetarian diets.
You're getting way more than you need with yours.
>>337786098
I guess that means it's high time we had another purge like the black plague or a massive natural disaster, then. It's long overdue at this point.
>>337783956
>actively participating in a rigged and broken system, thus giving it legitimacy and perpetuating it
Reminder: No matter who wins in the US election, you will still be allied to Israel, allied to Saudi Arabia, have a government that panders to big oil and banks and continues to put it's own interest first, as a state always will.
>>337786192
yeah, how about not advocating for cramming more people onto this planet instead of pushing for a completely unnatural stop-gap solution that doesn't tackle the core problem, then?
>>337785593
what the fuck do they need all that blood for
>>337786245
>implying tumbr vegans who eat mountains of carbs don't look like that
Bet you look like shit. Eat some protein and lift, vegan cuckold
>>337786009
Not him, but why does it need to be "most" or "all" or anything but the amount it is? It doesn't feel like a binary issue where they need to get x amount of people to stop or the whole thing is just fucked. Obviously they feel it'd be better with more people stopping, but why is it all or nothing?
Also, that's a great job outlining the problems, but since you did such a cool job with that couldn't we just, if the actual level of people eating meat did start to significantly drop, anticipate them? Like, make a tough decision and kill the extra livestock instead of just releasing them?
>>337786390
It's not a core problem, earth can easily sustain upwards of 10 billion, just not in the way we're currently doing it.
>>337779914
Are you literally retarded?
Reminder that humanity would literally still be living in trees if it hadn't developed a taste of meat.
>>337786314
>'I don't lift and I never will'
stop being such a cuck and go to the gym.
>>337786327
You do realize that that line of thinking is more effective at perpetuating the system than actively participating in it, right?
>>337786513
>I cant get girls so I need to work out to feel good about myself
/fit/fags are the true cucks
>>337776228
Humans eat meat. We also gain a sense of power over the utility of thoughts and ideas to divide the world. I admire the "Gordion Knot" posture of the vegans but you have barely come upon the burning walls of the vast kingdoms of deceit. In that spirit...fuck it
You should be eating a large meal a day and give yourself sufficient time to fast (12-16 hours min). The history of metabolic agents seems to have preferred the development of those who switch from HAVE FOOD to NOT HAVE FOOD states of chemical production and bioregulation.
Learn to love fats and protein. Being a vegan is profoundly disastrous for one's morality. What you see as saints will wither away to faggot virtue-signaling apes. Not as profoundly disastrous as "the modern diet" and most nutrition pedagogy and advice in the past 50 years.
Don't let the feeling of power overcome the actual reality of having it.
>>337777901
Don't forget that we'd go extinct as a species without bees and so would most other species on earth.
>>337786492
yeah, in order to do it we need to use a completely unnatural stop-gap solution. that forces people to disregard human nature for the benefit of some vague, higher cause which is goverened solely by 'muh science'.
sounds similar to something else that failed horribly, doesn't it?
>>337786427
its actually really ingenious. it will easily show toxins in a mixer so that medicines can be safely shipped without need of testing on a group of rabbits
still fucked up though
>>337786439
you mean the "oh im a vegan i just occasionally (read every day) eat fish and steak and absolutely love fast food" group. it is physically impossible to get that fat as a vegan. prove me wrong
>>337785650
But he didn't say that.
I think that maybe you are assuming he has views that he doesn't have because you have some baggage about the type of person you think he is and the stances you think he has, and this post >>337786146 makes me feel like I'm probably right.
>>337786390
That worked out real well for China. That's another issue entirely that humanity is going to have to solve.
> a completely unnatural stop-gap solution that doesn't tackle the core problem
What we're doing is already completely unnatural. Whether you like it or not, things are going to have to change.
>>337786427
medicine, antibiotics i believe
>>337786597
>le can't get laid meme
putting pussy on a pedestal is what makes you a real cuck, cuck.
>>337776051
everything gives you cancer,cancer is your own cells fucking up you WILL get cancer eventually because you can only regenerate your cells so many times its the reason behind ageing small errors in renewal that become more common
>>337786597
>I look like shit
>>337786587
steve jobs had cancer and i don't even think was a vegan. where has he ever stated he was a vegan?
>>337786641
>unnatural
There is literally nothing natural about the way we live on this planet. And on top of that appealing to naturality is the worst arguement anyone has ever made.
>>337777656
You do Realize that Tuna the number one selling fish for sushi over there is fished in the Atlantic no where near Japan.
>>337776051
Existing literally gives you fucking cancer, only retards still do it.
>>337786761
He wasn't. He just ate a ton of apples or something because he thought it would cure him or some stupid shit.
>>337786618
*tips fedora*
>>337785053
>http://beefmagazine.com
lmao, millennials lady's and gents.
>>337786681
>'i don't think just because they are different they need to be treated differently.'
that's exactly what he said, which is the exact same sort of shit you see peddled by people who try to deny that there are natural differences between anything just so that they can feel like nice people.
At least try to hide the fact that you're retarded and can't pick up on this shit.
>>337786793
Smoking literally gives you fucking cancer, only retards still do it.
Lead paint literally gives you fucking cancer, only retards still use it.
Mercury literally gives you fucking cancer, only retards still drink it.
Like I don't even agree with the guy, but do you honestly think you're making a point here or what the fuck?
>>337786492
We'll hit 10 billion before long. We've over doubled our population in the last 50 years.
>>337786716
putting pussy on a pedestal is why 95% of people work out, I dont do either
>>337786750
>I can't get a girlfriend and overcompensate with my muscles
>>337776678
We're smart enough to realize that we're fucking miserable
>>337776051
So do the pesticides on your plants
So does the fertilizer used to grow those plants
So does the sunlight that plants convert to energy
So does the 10 inch black cock you take up that fiber filled boi pussi
Getting cancer from a little meat seems to far lesser than eating only plants.
>>337782887
>We were also already intelligent to begin with.
that's not how evolution works
>>337786731
Cells only "regenerating" so many times has nothing to do with cancer cancer is when there is an error in cell division that causes a mutation in a set of genes that control cell growth and certain substances can cause the likeliness of such errors occurring
>>337786761
He lived off a raw vegetable and fruit diet.
>>337786492
You have a data of 10 billion which is the ration of how much fucking retarded there is to anything smart to think. It's okay. Pedagogy is terrible at teaching people the implications of data and context and well...anything.
More people isn't a strict "good" if the people are fucktarded.
10 million swiss will have far more of a positive impact that 10 million south africans.
The absolute inequality of people, and groups of people, is one of the cores of not being fucking retarded.
>>337786772
so you'd advocate for making the situation worse instead of going back to something that worked?
>>337776149
This
Only have to worry about that shit in longplays, I don't plan on grinding past level 50 or so before I quit. Game really falls off the rails at around level 40 I hear and doesn't quite regain its footing after that
>>337786907
>Getting cancer from a little meat seems to far lesser than eating only plants.
i was with you until you said this. there arent near as many regulations regarding what can be fed to animals in comparison to humans. they are in more contact with all three of those things than the average human so don't pretend you would never come into contact with that
>>337786919
Compared to everything else we sure as hell were. The capacity was already there, we just needed the glucose.
>>337786772
Lol not natural when we are a product of nature anything we do is natural...
>>337786897
>I don't out pussy on a pedestal
>lmao u can't get laid xD
top shitposting
>>337787051
The amount of plants you have to come in contact with to sustain yourself is far higher than that 3oz of cow you ate.
So don't pretent like you're not exposed to more of those chemicals than 3oz of a cow is.
>>337786772
>There is literally nothing natural about the way we live on this planet.
The existence of live is unnatural compared to the dead nothingness of space.
>>337787058
Over hundreds of thousands of years...and then hyper-selection in the past ten thousand years of warriors and conquerors.
Dealing with blood and planning to stick a knife in a poor bastard is why you are in an temperature controlled room with access to a toilet, a fridge, and a computer. Obviously in the same room of course.
>>337786641
>vague, higher cause
>muh science
I guess assuring the survival of the human race is not a high priority for you?
>>337775367
That's preposterous, I would never let one aspect of my life define me
>>337787173
Tautological. without life you can't have "nature" in the classical sense ha ha ha
But life, intelligence, and strife are natural results of multi-billion year ongoing calculation in a simulation of unknown means and unknown ends. There is nothing more natural than the destruction of boundaries.
>>337787173
How did we get to this? I thought this was video games
>>337783305
What percentage of the people that are arguing in this thread do you think are part of that 6 billion number, or can we acknowledge that we know that when he says "modern life" he's not talking about living in fucking Africa.
>>337787058
No it wasn't the fossil records show that our brain cavity got larger and larger it wasn't always that size.. and it didn't get bigger by eating food.
>this whole thread
>>337787307
The obvious solution would be breed far fewer but more high quality humans then.
Maybe at that pace, meat would make itself irrelevant. All meat of course will. :)
>>337787269
the survival of my country takes priority over the human race. If humanity survives but my countrymen vanish, what's the fucking point?
>>337787308
if you make 40,000 a year you are in the top 5% of income earners in the whole world. Most of the world is poor.
Would vegans eat vat-grown meat that was never technically alive?
>>337775206
RAW MEAT.
>>337787368
The vegans are far too fat.
>>337776647
Sushi is a shit food period.
It's literally made for plebs.
>>337787437
What percentage of the people that are arguing in this thread do you think are part of that 6 billion number, or can we acknowledge that we know that when he says "modern life" he's not talking about living in fucking Africa.
>>337787307
The fossil fuel thing could be solved easily that's not a byproduct of raising meat that's the byproduct of fucking greed.
>>337787328
Well brains can get "bigger" in populations that have to adapt to a food source that is both more nutritious but more "difficult" to obtain.
And if more nutritious, would enable the caloric consumption of some alpha ape fuck able to navigate social situations and hunt. In turn his offspring...
Don't be shy, the pedagogy of your morality...or to be more precise your instinct, including the social instinct(!), has a cleanup bin with the guts and skulls and tears of mistakes past.
>"Overpopulation is a really serious problem!"
Only edgelord retards actually think this. What isnt sustainable however is the way resources are divided up. Many parts of the world suffer immensely to a degree almost unimaginable to prop a very comparatively small part of the world. This very small, very white skinned part of the world gets to enjoy technlogicial luxuries and indulgences the expense of nearly everyone else on the planet whose natural resources are exploited for useless commodities.
Don't worry. It can't keep going on like this for much longer. Something will have to give eventually. The world can't keep bending over backwards for Europe and America/Australi
>>337780093
To not getting the meat charred, but fried/cooked/roasted/grilled/whatever other action you've picked, you stupid shit? If you can't do such simple thing, how the fuck you can even call yourself a cook or your action cooking? Any fucking moron can throw a piece of meat on heater metal for a minute and call that a meal. Or use open flame outright, to get it even "quicker"
But that ain't cooking.
>>337787307
>6.7 lbs of grain
>for 6oz if meat
Thats still less costly than the 10lbs of broccoli you'd need to consume to get an equal amount of proteins.
>>337787404
the obvious solution is to stop farming animals and instead grow crops exclusive for humans where we would have normally grew crops for animals to eat so instead of plateauing we can continue to grow as it is much more efficient
>>337787492
>It's literally made for plebs.
What do you think literally every other food on the planet is?
>>337787437
>If you make le 40k you are le richer than 95% of people xD
I'm not making 40k a year under pooinloo cost of living, these bills are expensive and make me feel like a subhuman regardless.
>>337787557
>muh white people
>muh rich people
the only thing worse than an afrocentric nigger is a communist afrocentric nigger
>>337787328
>>337787198
I didn't literally mean brain capacity, just the capacity to evolve in that direction. In all honesty I think being the weaker species that we were, we were forced to figure out how to outsmart other animals and grow our own food. Those who couldn't figure that out died off. Diet alone obviously would not make us as intelligent as we are today, but we did/do need the glucose to utilize our minds to the fullest.
>>337787623
The obvious solution is to kill all the poor people and use the land for more livestock so we can move to a 100% meat diet and finally gave world peace.
>>337787623
Most farmland used to grow animal feed isn't suited to grow food for humans.
>>337787557
Sorry to shred your guilt party, your petite model du universe, but more likely hyperaccelerated cognition will shed Europe and America for space, where from then it should be able to position itself without being crammed by gravity into cohabitation with undesirable elements.
>>337787307
AH yes, the mysterious disappearing water which a cow drinks or in other magical ways unretrievable consumes, probably a black hole in its stomach, and the huuuuge amounts of land that if they weren't used for animal farming would of course be usable for raising the finest crop. Now all we need is the "10 calories for 1 calorie"- out of grass- bullcrap and the cycle is complete.
>>337787674
What a well reasoned, thoughtful response friend
>>337787427
You think your country is somehow immune to all this? You must live on some nearly deserted island in the middle of nowhere.
>>337787548
But the brain didn't get "bigger" from actually eating the food it was either a mutation or just through natural variation that some people had larger brains then others and they were more likely to survive and produce offspring that would carry on that trait due to there increase in thinking capacity.
>>337787596
Because broccoli is the only source of protein for vegans, of course
>>337787307
>pounds
>gallons
>feet
>btus
What are these fantasy units?
>>337787723
it matches the caliber of the original post :^)
>>337787710
how so
>>337787760
>because beef is the only source of animal protein of course
:^)
>>337787712
Haha spotted the teenager
Space travel and colonisation is a sci fo hollywood myth. The amount of energy and resources required to travel around in just our own solar system is staggering.
Humanity will very likely never expand in any meaningful way into space and almost certainly will never leave our system.
Stop getting your science from video games and comic books retard
>>337787742
I think that my country, like all the other countries in this world, have a right to autonomy and exist independently of one another, just as we're designed to. This 'but we're all human' bullshit is what's led to all the problems we're currently seeing in Europe.
>>337787718
that water is the requirement for the crops to feed the animal. it doesn't disappear, it is displaced. this causes situations like the current droughts in california
>haha but i had a glass of water this morning, there are no deserts in the world because water doesn't just disappear!!!
>>337775653
Fuck off Bobandy!
>>337787903
Muh dick
I love meat and dairy
>>337786879
It's hard for me to tell if you're just ignoring the implied "in every respect" at the end of his post or if you actually think he literally means that we should pretend that bees are people.
Pretty sure his idea is that just bees aren't people doesn't mean we should treat them poorly. You didn't attempt to make any "while they are different in x, y, z ways, which makes it acceptable to treat them this way" argument, and it's not a hard argument to make, and lays the groundwork for your views on cruelty and insect intelligence so that you guys can discuss it further with that basis, instead you just called him delusional and started talking about multiculturalism.
>>337787437
If you want to argue for the poor then consider that meat is expensive. Plants are not. Plants and water would also be even cheaper and more plentiful if we didn't have to feed billions of livestock every year.
>>337787938
But the impact that farming has on water displacement pales in comparison to just the fact that average temps are rising all over.
>>337787903
This is absurd, no human needs to consume that much meat in one day.
This is eating for pleasure which is completely wrong and unnatural. Sapient animals had to be murdered to make this happen and it wasn't for our survival, but for fun. Disgusting. These people should be ashamed and then hanged.
>>337787993
this is a great picture, completely captures a women in her prime. this all changes in literally 1 year though
>>337778628
Let's see. Should I trust the Sushi Chefs who actually studied their craft? Or a white neckbeard on /v/? hmmm...
>ITT bitches don't know that herbivores eat meat, they are just too slow and dumb to eat it regularly.
>>337788047
Ahahahahaha shut the fuck up retard
My mouth is literallly watering just watching that
>>337788058
>in her prime
>clearly in her mid 30s
Enjoy your autistic children.
>>337788032
If we argue in terms of money the you would definitely get more food/nutrients per dollar if you went with insects.
Do vegans eat mussels?
>cultivating them is GOOD for the environment
>they have no central nervous system so the whine about harming animals is moot
>>337787993
Thank God for big titties
>>337788047
>Im a giant cock sucking faggot. Dick is the only meat I eat, and can't get enough of
Tom Clancy said vegetarians are retarded
>>337774621
>he never tried homemade sushi
>>337787919
That's all well and good, but this isn't exactly an issue that you can avoid on a country by country basis. At this rate you will get dragged into it eventually, whether you like it or not.
>>337788138
>cultivating them is GOOD for the environment
Tell me more
>>337787881
I'm quite far from a teenager, to say the least.
I'm not talking about humanity. Ha ha ha ha. At most, we'll be elves hammering out the multi-tendriled bodies of the news gods.
Yes it takes a lot of energy. But to give intelligence, even coldly humming, a chance outside our Earth is something that nags on me like a moral imperative.
"Space Travel" was a myth. Now space travel will happen faster and sooner than ever. This burning of fat will only intensify when the first Julius Caeser babies open their eyes in China and devour the world in their minds.
>>337788047
>These people should be ashamed and then hanged.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
It's easier to hate something that you perceive as having the intelligence to know better, but humans are very fallible creatures and you shouldn't lose your compassion for them by getting lost in your compassion for animals.
>>337777846
Zakhar for life
>>337788047
A little subtler next time
>>337788047
For one: Who says only one person has to eat it?
Second: Ever heard of Olympic gymnasts? They consume like 10k calories a day.
>>337788210
It's to deter other humans from doing the same. Humans should know better, these ones are clearly deficient.
>>337788202
You sound retarded
>>337775109
FUCKING RADICAL
>all these beta liberal vegan cucks
Why is /pol/ always right senpai?
>>337788259
olympians eat carbs
10 Cal of protein would kill you
>>337788047
But the amount you need to eat is directly proportional to how much energy you expend so ya some people might need that much meat a day or the equivalent in veggies or more.
>>337788028
the problem is that you're assuming that bees are capable of cognitive thought and as such that we should treat them in that way. however, no research on this planet has found that bees have any sort of cognitive ability comparable to that of humans, therefore the sort of idea that both you and the other guy are proposing are quite literally a wasted effort that would be better spent on something else, but which you continue to focus on for whatever reason, maybe as it helps distract you from bigger issues.
smoking bees out doesn't kill them, if it did then honey farmers would be out of a job, so I do not see what you're complaining about other than 'wow so cruel can't you be nicer to the poor le bees?'.
>>337788198
There are tons of articles on it, here's one from Yale:
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/how_mussel_farming_could_help_to_clean_fouled_waters/2648/
tl;dr water filters
>>337787404
>The obvious solution would be breed far fewer but more high quality humans then
I agree. Education is always the best option.
>>337788417
Sweet, that's cool as fuck.
>>337788041
thats is the case with salt water, nonsalvagable for humans or crops. this is not fucking true for freshwater. california farmers are told they can use 100000 gallons of freshwater per year on crops alone. however, this limit is not static. if they don't use 100000 gallons, their water limits will lower to how much they used, leaving no room for expansion. so if they use 20000, they pour out the rest to keep the limit, and then what evaporated was pushed out to sea from wind currents. did you know salt water doesn't evaporate as fast as freshwater? this is the biggest reason for the drought in california
>>337788442
Genocide solves it faster. Remove kebab.
>>337787596
>this shit again
>>337788384
hue this, smoking bees just suppresses them for a while, what kind of pussy thinks otherwise they get back up in a few minutes
Also bees and cognitive thought? I thought they were all just a hive mind following a queen's commands through pheromones.
>>337788384
Hey, there we go, you took my "they are different in x, y, z ways". I'm glad I helped you to get to this point, now maybe the guy can come back and talk with you about them.
>>337788210
its just a troll, gandhi. nobody is actually that militantly vegan. it's just one guy in the thread having fun calling people sub-human.
I agree with you, and it takes real strength to forgive when you have the power to punish, but this isn't the place to try to convince people to be compassionate.
>Guys we should stop eating animals it's evil and mean.
Mean while in the wild animals are getting torn apart and eaten alive and Humans have nothing to do with it. Animals are going to die even if we don't kill them and actually we kill them a lot more quickly and cleanly then in the wild.
>>337788265
okay
1. Space travel is now being slowly privatized. If Tesla can get something to Mars, I'm jizzing my pants.
2. "well it'll just run out of steam" - Genetic engineering = smarter people. WAY smarter people. The world does not now what it is like to wage a war against an army staffed by humans MORE COMPETENT than legendary generals.
3. My "optimisim" for intelligence is that human apes are just integrated as maintenance for bodies of god. Assuming electronic intelligence is able to get exponential returns.
>>337788196
you can avoiding it by adopting national policies to counter it on a case by case basis, which is ironically far more efficient than wrapping the issue up into one giant messy ball and trying to solve everything at once with a magical cure-all.
the only way that humanity will be able to truly view itself as 'human' is when we have an alien agressor that we can treat as an out-group, and even then you're still going to find that the majority of people will still prefer the company of their in-group.
>>337788135
Everything I've read on insects make them appear to be a good solution as well.
>>337788489
this guy gets it
>>337788596
except the taste
>>337788587
>vegans think letting cows live is good for the environment
>>337788442
Education would be far more effective if it was filtered by IQ tests.
You aren't taking a non-white native South African all the way through Linear Analysis.
Without filtering, you're pissing away your resources so you can signal to your fuckbois that "no I'm inclusive" and what fucking good vibe shit the countless jackasses of the world come up with.
>>337788587
How do you get this fucking fat?
Fuck these people, they expect people to feel sorry for them when they did this to themselves.
>>337788541
It's my original position, m8. I must have not got it across well enough with my first post.
>>337788662
like chicken
little crunchy ones
>>337788710
But IQ test are pretty inaccurate
>>337788261
So you are basing this on some sort of logic where you imagine a society that kills anyone that eats meat in excess? I mean, maybe it's a stretch, but what about one that forgives or at least attempts to reeducate these, now apparently ashamed, individuals?
>>337788562
I know, I'm not as serious as I sound, I just think about attitudes similar (but less extreme) to this a lot so I figured I'd make a post; I know he's not actually serious, I'm just talking to talk because it's late as fuck and I don't really want to do anything else.
>>337788384
i never implied bees were capable of cognitive thought. and to claim smoking bees out doesn't fucking kill them even though they pass out from asphyxiation is plain fucking retarded. you aren't making an argument, you are justifying it and poorly
>>337788521
yeah, that's what bees do. the other guy seemed to be assuming that 'bees have feelings too!' and I was trying to point out that based on factual evidence it's completely wrong, therefore pretending that they do have feeling is a waste of time and money.
>>337787307
>>337787404
This is actually the biggest issue with the modern meat industry. I am not, nor am I ever likely to be a vegan. However, the sheer amount of grazing space that's been cleared to raise livestock, along with the billions of dollars of resources that get poured into them, followed by the insane methane production, is absurd.
Meat needs to be limited. The majority of the crops grown on Earth are fed directly to livestock. With that same space, we could grow enough food for every human being several times over. We're tearing up the planet to feed people's appetite for meat. I love meat, but I'd be more than willing to dial it back a bit. Even just making 3 days out of the week into non-meat days would go a long way towards stemming the problems with meat production. Or having meat be a one meal per day item. As it stands, people seem to eat meat with every meal. With 7 billion people eating, the math isn't going to work out. More and more land will have to be dedicated to producing feed for these animals.
It's like the sardine to tuna ratio. People love tuna. Tuna farms feed each tuna a fuckton of sardines per day to raise tuna. Those sardines are perfectly edible. We're wasting resources to produce these luxury items and suffering dire consequences. I'm not saying don't eat beef, don't eat tuna, I'm saying that moderation is key, and it might save the Earth.
>>337788587
is
is that an ass
>>337788587
>censoring that ass
ahahahaha
>>337788662
You(and I) don't like them because we weren't raised on them
>>337788596
As far as I know insects (as human food) aren't even legal to sell in the EU for some reason.
I don't see why it shouldn't be.
>>337788587
Thank god for the censor.
>>337788568
I'm not the vegan hitler in the thread, but it's a very teenage fatalistic philosophy to hold people to the same standards as animals.
it's way too simple to just conclude that since we too are made of flesh and seek pleasure that it's okay to just live with no regard as animals do.
there's just nothing down that road. Scared fools dismiss it as hubris, but the only true path for mankind is godhood, and gods hold themselves responsible for their domain.
>>337788832
90% of criminals reoffend. It's not like we're in short supply of humans either.
>>337788671
>said no vegan ever
>>337788721
Looking at her, she probably has a legitimate disease. Most obese lardasses don't.
>>337788835
in order for an animal to have feelings it needs to be capable of cognitive thought.
come on, anon, I thought you'd finished high school.
Does it gross anyone else out that we're made of flesh?
I mean, what the fuck? That's disgusting.
>>337788808
For high high IQs and pinpoint analysis, sure. For most cases, you can get a good idea of where the subject is on the percentile scale.
An IQ 75 isn't going to be able to study and get tested again for IQ 115. An IQ 115 might do some real self-improvement and test again a few years later as a IQ 125.
But there is a SPECIES level of difference between 115 and 75. We only call them human out of social polity.
>>337774947
>What are Fallout expansions
More fool me for playing nu-Fallout, but gee here's something I didn't want; A new system of game mechanics (such as currency RE: The Pitt) cobbled and sticky taped together from the corpse of the Gamebryo engine on top of the already steaming pile of shit that the game is.
Good job I pirated
>>337788662
that's just social conditioning. bugs are probably just as good if not better once youre used to them.
>>337788835
>passing out is the same thing as dying
>>337788976
But we are different we go out of our way to get clean kills most of the time where as other animals don't they go for what ever and proceed to eat an animal alive.
>>337787557
Overpopulation is a problem if we want a shred of the natural world to survive. I, for one, enjoy the ability to go to state parks, to hunt animals, to fish, hike, to see some bits of unspoiled land. The more people there are, the more land will have to be dedicated solely to providing resources to those people. This fucks up the whole planet.
We don't need more fucking people. I'd rather have far fewer people and retain some breathing room on the planet. Sure, the math might work out to the planet being able to support a seemingly infinite amount of people, but that's only if we fuck it up to a disgusting degree and develop every square meter.
>>337789079
tastebuds aren't socially conditioned you retard.
>>337788662
If you can eat angry sea alien insects like crab and lobsters I'm sure you'll get used to crickets soon enough.
>>337789029
Imagine if we were skeletons instead.
That would be cool.
>>337788727
I'm assuming your first post was >>337785313
It's a good enough first post to start the conversation, but it's in this form:
"y isn't x, so don't treat y like x". And his was essentially "just because y isn't x doesn't mean that all treatment methods for x are incompatible/unnecessary with/for y".
So far this is all good stuff from both sides, but then instead of going into what you did here >>337788384 you implied that his argument was that we shouldn't acknowledge any difference at all. That was my problem with your posts.
>>337789079
>>337788872
err no they taste like shit
insects have a very bitter taste
the ones you buy in foreign countries are seasoned to fuck and fried beyond recognition
>>337788047
This is like a showoff platter, bruh. I've never seen a BBQ plate that large here in Texas, although they've come kinda close. I think I'd get sick trying to eat that much in a sitting.
>>337788980
that's a consequence of the vengeance-based prison over rehabilitative programs.
people think trying to make someone productive rather than making them live 24/7 with other criminals for x years is a sign of weakness.
>>337789141
I think the other anon secretly wants us to live on some fucking w40k tier hive world.
>>337789221
What about "acquired tastes"?
>>337789262
>if it's bitter people hate it
What about that one beverage served hot that everyone loves....
>>337789137
I genuinely don't get how you could read his post and then respond with that.
He should just copy paste the entire thing and then reply to you with that, because you don't seem to have taken anything from it.
>>337788994
and here you go again, i never said they had feelings. neither you nor i can claim that as we are not bees. i am saying animal farming is unnatural and therefore wrong (as what else should you base morality on if not nature) and that is all i have said. i don't give a shit about your canine teeth or the fact its been happening for centuries
>>337789112
>asphyxiation = passing out
asphyxiation is the cause, passing out is A result
>>337789221
sorry, i've only ever tried a tiny ant that tasted like apple once while on a school trip. I just thought most of the grossness was texture.
>>337789329
that's not social conditioning, that's biological development. I didn't start liking olives because my parents used jedi mind games on me, I started liking olives because as I matured my tastebuds were able to appreciate the nuances of the flavour.
>>337789390
Bitter isn't a pleasant taste at all, whether it be in coffee or alcohol. It's literally a signal from your tastebuds that you shouldn't be consuming whatever you just put in your mouth.
Most bitter products that are mass consumed are packed full of drugs, such as caffeine or alcohol, to which people become addicted.
>>337789390
Almost nobody likes coffee the first time they drink it desu
It's an aquired taste, insects might be too.
>>337789476
asphyxiation isn't the same thing as dying either. why are you drawing false equivalences?
>>337789291
Well in a way, it's more of the fact that a small percentage of people commit the majority of crimes because they don't have impulse control and a variety of other "things" which make living peaceably with other people difficult.
With that said, prisons will exist but they suck. But to change it would take either a great GREAT scandal or a change in the political system.
The consequence of vengeance-based prisons is the consequence of other social ape based schemes...shit. That's why it's a schmuck game to be vegan or any sort of -in. Because those fucking apes would knife a bunny if got points in that emotion-social score pattern scanning software they got running.
It's far better to fight for the fire of intelligence and the thrill of planning than the tragedy of homo homo sapiens.
>>337788980
Depends on the prison system, m8.
It also depends on other factors, like the society that you're raised in. If we are talking about current societies, then we are talking about people raised in a society accepting of overindulgence when it comes to eating meat. These are people following society's laws. I can't know for sure, but I imagine that these people would have a lower recidivism rate after being reeducated compared to people that break the laws of the society that they live in.
>>337788835
We need everyone to adopt these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbMV9qYIXqM
>>337787557
>he is actually that much of a racist that he thinks it's the white people's fault
>completely forgets that there is also russia, china, the entire south american continent, the entire african continent
>oceania
>india
>the middle eastern and north african muslim states
>apparently everyone is such a shitter that a tiny population of white people holds ALL OF THEM IN CHECK
I wonder if the world will turn into a magical place once we are ruled by russians, chinese or muslims. I wonder if you will be among the first who are executed.
>>337789627
There are hundreds of willing people from North Africa and the Middle East who would be more than happy to take a glutton's place in society.
You don't need to worry about reforming a bad egg, just throw it out and get a new one.
>>337789591
the arrow is a quote. that is how i interpreted his post. he is saying asphyxiation ALWAYS leads to passing out and i was using that interpretation as a quote so he understood what i read his post as
>>337789476
if morality was purely based in nature then killing another man so that you could eat him because you were hungry would be a-okay.
morality has always been grounded in religious principles and should arguably be kept that way for the benefit of the masses.
>>337782091
>when its all a lie
>>337789837
that was me, and I wasn't saying that at all. I was saying that you're equating death with a cause that isn't even guaranteed to cause death, which is still fucking retarded.
>>337789221
If you grow up with something you do get used to it and can eventually enjoy. Tastes can change of course, but your staple will always be there, and that's heavily tied to your upbringing and region.
>>337789843
You don't kill the other man for meat because that would be fucking stupid. That's Ogg-Thur, a hunter in your tribe! Why would you want to kill him for meat?
And as an aside, morality derives more from meat than top-bottom idiotism. Lack of impulse control, ability to focus, withhold pleasure for later gain, etc...are far more "formational" in the development of the personal morality into which social morality is the barest cloak.
>>337789758
>take people from north africa and the middle east
gee I wonder who could be behind this post
>>337790092
And furthermore, Ogg-Thur is your aunt's prospective fiance. Surely you would not want to make your aunt sad and to bring shame to the tribe?
>>337789609
>Well in a way, it's more of the fact that a small percentage of people commit the majority of crimes because they don't have impulse control and a variety of other "things" which make living peaceably with other people difficult.
I touched on that a little in this: >>337789627
but I did a little googling and some of the recidivism statistics are surprising. Norway is apparently something like 20 percent. I can't tell how accurate this figure is, and I'm really too tired to look in depth into statistics, but it seems that the rate can vary with the system quite heavily (though, I'm sure there are other factors).
>>337789758
I wouldn't want to live in a society that treats its own citizens as expendable and throws them away at their first mistake.
A man is not an egg, and we should always show as much compassion as we sanely can to all living things.
>>337790092
>top-bottom idiotism
do you know anything about religion aside from what you gleamed from your copy of dawkins' atheist bible
>>337789843
i believe morality is a real thing, a sense of right and wrong. i don't think the bible lists everything thats wrong as it was written and interpreted by man and he is imperfect
>>337789928
when did i equate asphyxiation as an indefinite death? i am saying both happen, whereas who i was initially arguing with said;
>smoking bees out doesn't kill them
>>337788093
Not him but shit like California rolls are wholly American
>>337790324
and smoking bees out doesn't kill them.
http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/how-does-smoke-subdue-bees
http://bees.chrisinch.com/what-does-smoke-do-to-bees/
do your research, please.
>>337790251
Norway is also mostly Northern European white. There was quite a bloodshedding before the fearsome boreal warriors "calmed" down. That's the power of generations and genetics.
>compassion
Just beware, don't mistake conflict avoidance for "compassion and kindess". You can only speak of compassion and kindness when you can look at a mormon missionary's eyes and tell him to fuck off. Because that would be the kindest thing to say as opposed to the deflected awkward gestures to fake "being indisposed".
There's also nothing kind in being blind to stereotypes. You put yourself at risk for holiness amongst dung-eaters.
>not balancing your daily meal with meals of all kinds
>not following christian lents
>>337789843
>morality has always been grounded in religious principles
Morality may have been defined by religion, but humans were always capable of empathy. Modernization has done far more for morality than religion ever did. People who feel like they need religion in order to be just and moral scare the shit out of me.
>should arguably be kept that way for the benefit of the masses
Maybe until we can properly educate people.
>>337789985
that's not social though. you can grow up in a specific region and hate food that's culturally unique to it, much in the same way that you can like food from different cultures. It depends solely on the tastebuds of the individual and how receptive they are to different flavours, which is all biological.
>>337790498
cool
>>337790620
we're never going to be able to properly educate everyone, which is why religion is so valuable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Christian, but I at least understand that it's a valuable part of western society and should be upheld as such.
honestly speaking, people who think that everyone on this earth is capable of great things and should be given the complete free reign to do as they will scare me far more than people who recognize the importance of religion, moderation and upholding standards.
>>337782091
>mfw I heard a coworkers seriously use that argument with a chill vegan coworker who always eats with us and never bothers anyone
>>337790312
Look, there are people who can cite scripture but don't FEEL anything.
There are socially retarded people with the most intricate codes of moral regulation and decorum.
I've tripped and felt everything from unyielding murderous hatred to crying for the suffering of a world.
And I've learned 99% of ape culture is fucking garbage. To learn to discriminate between that and what values and teachings are worth integrating is the rote duty of morality.
>>337790620
>humans were always capable of empathy
Only within their in-group. Never forget that distinction when you make that point.
>>337790534
I'm not advocating for blindness, I'm advocating for the maximum amount of sane compassion. There's a reason I put "sane" in there.
It's too easy to hate "bad" people to the point where we dehumanize them entirely, and often people view punishment as an end in itself. These get in the way of sane compassion, and that is all I am advocating for.
Also, I am okay not taking the absolute kindest route in every instance due to my own weaknesses. The final step, and one often missed by many, is realizing that accepting imperfection in others should be followed by accepting imperfection in yourself.
If being awkward means I waste a little bit of a person's time then that is too bad, but it's not exactly a large concern and I can accept this imperfection while still trying to be sanely compassionate.
>>337790498
Not them, but plenty of bees do get killed during collection. They're trampled on and squished enmasse every time something is moved around. They're also often crippled when being brushed or blown off the hive.
This would be a far better way of collecting honey
>>337789643
>>337791092
I don't know if what you are saying is true. I'm not even 100% on what it means.
When did we switch over from being able to care about beings outside our "in-group"?
>>337791554
from not being able to care*
