Best Soulsborne Game
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Which one wast the /v/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10222753
Here, just use this next time.
>>337723126
WHY ISNT BLOODBORNE WINNING
>>337723358
It is tho
>>337723358
Why do console war babbehs like you always want to destroy souls threads?
>>337723126
>Dark Souls 1 on the lead
Glad to see /v/ has good taste.
>>337723248
Replace Demon's with III and it's perfect.
>>337723535
Is III really that good? Im waiting for the GOTY edition to buy it. And i fucking loved BB,DeS and DaS1
>Des has 1 votes
Kek
>>337723713
Memers will say 3 is shit and that 2 is actually the best, but yeah, it's fucking awesome.
>>337723358
Because 90% of /v/ is made up of PC-only neckbeards
>>337723825
And why didn't you vote for it?
>>337723358
>Only on ps4
>Equal with DaS
:^)
>>337723969
Hence the kek
May the good blood guide your way.
Bloodborne no doubt
>>337723126
For me the answer is 2 since I have the most hours in it.
>>337723358
Userbase is higher.
BB is objectively and factually the best.
PvP is e-peen tier anyway, in any game, so who cares. Solo, BB is undisputabely the best.
While we vote what was your favourite place in a souls game?
>>337724459
Eleum Loyce but Bloodborne is the best if you ask me
Got cursed by basalisks and was about to quit but made the run from the depths to the gargoyles for a purging stone.
>>337723713
3 is a mix between DeS, Das1 and BB so you're definitely gonna like it
>>337724459
Tower of Latria
I was scared there the most in any souls game. After that Yharnam.
>>337724834
Except it doesn't have any of the things that made each of those good individually.
>>337724459
Anal Rodeo
3 is the best. Every other opinion is wrong
>>337723713
Hey it's not bad at all, as a fan of the series you will definately enjoy it, but it falls short in some terms, where some polish would helped a lot. Just a bit more time like 3 months maybe.
I would've waited.
>>337724459
Castle Cainhurst.
Bloodborne a best.
>>337723713
Well if you liked all the games in the series (except DS2) you'll like it. I still find it more forgettable than Bloodborne.
DS1 is the best one.
But judging the other games next to it is kinda unfair, because DaS's genius is almost accidental.
By any objective measure, it's not really that good a game at all. It's very obtuse to the point of frustration, and a lot of its design is frayed around the edges. But the passion of the people working on it, and the atmosphere the game provides somehow makes up for all of its technical shortcomings. It's lightning in a bottle, and comparing any other game to it is kind of unfair to them, because even DaS really shouldn't be as good as it is.
Bloodborne is better then the Souls games, but it isn't part of them. There is no "Soulsborne" series. The gameplay is similar, but far too different to be grouped.
The only people who insist of making this comparison are literal sonyggers and poorfags who need to justify their PS4 purchase to themself.
>>337724937
>DeS's environmental storytelling
>DaS 1's interlocking world man
>BB's atmosphere and colorful enemy types
>Implying DS3 doesn't have any of those things
While were at it what do you think is the best setting for a souls game?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10223236
>>337725421
That last part wasn't necessary, but way to go, you sure did act like a huge fucking faggot PCfat.
>people saying DaS1 is the best
Have you played it recently? The bosses have aged worse than DeS and the second half is comprised of areas that are either really boring or just plain terrible.
>>337725509
It actually doesn't though.
>>337724459
DaS1 Catacombs. Going through that place early on new characters to get the Rite of Kindling early is a crazy experience every time, without even getting into my first experience there.I missed the Catacombs outright on my first playthrough until just before I did Sen's because I didn't notice the stairs down when I cleared out the graveyard.
>>337725421
So we're just going to ignore the fact that they're made by the same guy with the same design philosophies, purposefully making the same kind of game?
>>337725748
Well, you're demonstrably wrong, so carry on then.
>>337725783
Is Resident Evil and Dino Crisis the same series?
>>337725537
>Renaissance
Count me in senpai
What are your three favorite and three least favorite bosses in the Soulsborne series?
Hardmode: No DLC bosses
>DaS3 is apparently filled with references and nostalgia for DaS1
>Never played DaS1, so most likely won't understand any of the references
>Even then I don't think DaS3 is a very great game, let alone good, it's just kinda alright
>>337726084
cool blog faggot
>>337726197
Thanks, please subscribe
>>337726245
will do
>>337726041
Favourite:
Ornstein and Smough
Gehrman
Nameless King
Least:
The Rotten
Rat Army(I don't even remember their fucking name)
Ceaseless Discharge
DS>BB>DS3>DeS>DS2
>>337723126
Objectively, Dark Souls 3.
Subjectively, Dark Souls 1.
Neither DeS nor DaS 2 come close.
Haven't played Bloodborne.
>>337726041
>Fav
1. Soul of Cinder
2. Champ Gundyr
3. Gerhman
>Least fav
1. Rom
2. Bed of Chaos
3. Royal Rat Vanguard
>>337724459
I'm probably the only one who likes World 4 in Demon's Souls, but I don't care.I just love to invade there.
>>337726470
>Objectively, Dark Souls 3.
lol
Is 3 really that good?
I haven't played it yet but I can't recall any sequel that was better than it's original game
Bloodborne.
It was the least rushed souls game
>>337725509
Das3 final boss is fanservice and means nothing to the story of dark souls 3
>>337725960
It's not, technically, but when we talk about that specific kind of game, then the two are very often lumped together.
Same thing here. DS and BB clearly aren't the same games, but they share a LOT in common, so it's easy to talk about them interchangeably. When we talk about "Soulsborne", we're not talking about a game franchise, we're talking about gameplay elements and design philosophy.
>>337726403
good taste
>>337726684
No, it's really not. It's fun, but it's nowhere near the best.
Demon's Souls is by far my favorite, but it's hard not to admit that everything that was wrong with it was fixed in Dark Souls.
>>337726684
AC2
>>337726704
Nameless King is an optional boss, not the final boss.
>>337725537
How would modern day even work?Would burning barrels be bonfires?
>>337723126
Ive only just started DaS3, but based off of what ive played, the ranking is
DaS = BB > Das2 > DaS3 > DeS
>>337726662
>best bosses BY FAR
>best individual level design
>Arguably the best music
>no severe drop in quality like the second half of DaS1 or everything post Rom in BB
DaS3 isn't perfect, but its great at the things that matter the most.
>>337724459
Undead Parish
>>337726823
Stop that.
Did he ask if it was the best? No. He asked if it was good, in which case, yes, yes it is. Not everything has to be a comparison.
>>337726910
Nameless king should have been the final boss. His lore fits perfectly. It would have ended his story that he felt remoseful for betraying his kin and decided to return to the kiln
>>337727146
The music was just shit senpai.And i fucking loved DaSIII but it was the worst in the series.
>>337725421
You're literally autistic if you don't consider demons, dark 1-3 and BB all part of the same series
>>337724459
Eleum Loyce is objectivally thecoolestarea
>>337727245
>I haven't played it yet but I can't recall any sequel that was better than it's original game
What's everyones favourite ost? Mine would be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
>>337727327
>>337727146
First Anon here, I personally never cared much for the Souls music, except for maybe 2~3 songs per game.
Bloodborne is actually winning, what the fuck?
In my opinion bloodborne is the best, but is a Sony exclusive so winning a poll in /v/ sounds pretty hard.
>>337723126
>bloodborne is winning
>>337727327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIX_-AMuAhY&index=7&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XREf55X9E&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSiaf9m55s&index=12&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy2OCRmxVAY&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1&index=14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHpOHQum5o&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajq6MFS_ysM&index=18&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1&index=19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrbZc-J0-Z4&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1&index=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s&index=22&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU&index=23&list=PLCLeSTzz6trYB89ZYFswkVKoQWPZ6e7_1
Literally every single one of these tracks is god-tier. Acquire some taste.
>>337727461
Nice
>>337727549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
>>337724459
Cathedral Ward
>>337727146
The rest of the games don't hold a candle to BB's OST senpai
>>337727721
The only ones i like are pontiff and vordt
I counter with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6sOhQan9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX51T-EipOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZB4CzX8BbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tuWvGee4T0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc0vmbmdexw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr54gJZk_nM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC1N-1SMAXQ
>>337727968
BB has like 4 memorable tracks compared to DaS3's which has >>337727721 memorable tracks. The few that BB has are really good though.
>bloodborne winning
ITS
NOT
FUCKING
FAIR
>>337724459
Tower of Latria and Fishing Hamlet.
>>337727146
>Not liking Yahar'gul and Mensis.
>>337728062
>>337727721
As for Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBMhwWN_088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICSk8-pJkX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sr349qR9s8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQcKBUcgmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikWGbtXIBr4
>>337728370
Where the FUCK are Ludwig, Orphan, Laurence and Logarius.
>>337728370
>no Ludwig, First Vicar or Failures
Anon
>>337727721
Abyss watchers is the worst track in the series.
>>337728513
>>337728567
For no DLC argument senpai
Man the DLC really elevated BloodBorne. Hoping the DLC for DS3 is just as good.
I still think BB is a little 1 note but it's still gotta be the second best behind DS1. With DS3 in 3rd, Demons Souls last if only because it's clunky as hell.
>>337728616
lol
>>337728719
DeS still has the most fluid animations.
>>337726041
Favorite:
looking glass knight
rom
old monk
Least Favorite:
royal rat authority
freja
cleric beast
>>337728784
What is it then?
>DaS1 suddenly gets 10 votes while other games got none
>>337728803
Did you just pick random bosses from each game?
>>337728898
A good track at the very least.
>>337728986
>Dark Souls 1 is suddendly first
Some mad fanboy couldn't take it anymore.
DaS pre lord vessel > BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS after lord vessel >>> DaS2
>>337729189
>mad fanboi
What a shit argument desu. I like DaS1 the best but to rig a fucking poll on 4chan is just too much.
>>337729192
>DaS pre-lord vessel
>good
Yeah, Blighttown, taurus demon, capra demon and asylum demon were so great.
SINCE THE OTHER GAMES HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED, LETS DECIDE WHICH GAME IS BETTER HERE:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10223582
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>>337729445
>not liking Blight Town
get a load of this pleb.
>>337729374
People do it all the time, all you need is dynamic IP.
>>337724459
Sen's Fortress
>>337729510
if Dark Souls doesn't win this /v/ is offically retarded
>>337729658
>Why do people have opinions?
>>337729058
No, I picked my favorite and least favorite bosses. It might seem weird have freja and rom on opposite sides, but they play pretty differently. What would an acceptable list have been?
>>337729834
didn't mean to sound spiteful my man its just a really weird list. What do you like about Looking Glass Knight so much?
I thougt everyone agreed on DeS was the best well allright.
>>337727549
Abyss Watchers
>>337729834
le artorios
>>337729950
Not him but I woulda liked the LGK more if there was visible lightning/audible thunder during the actual fight. I'm a huge sucker for rainstorms in games
>>337728616
Kill yourself
What the fuck is up with this poll. Bloodborne and DaS1 switched places countless times with 5-6 votes in a row
>>337727721
Twin Princes has gotta be hands down the best boss theme from any game in the series.
I don't think I've ever been so excited and enthralled by a boss fight.
>>337728791
Maybe over Dark 1&2, definitely not BB, DaS3 is arguable.
>Fucking DaSII has more votes than DeS
just end me senpai
>>337725421
Thats like saying COD each game is different after 4. Thats retarded.
>>337729445
Blighttown is good minus the framerate on consoles. The vast majority of souls bosses suck.
>>337724459
Fishing Hamlet/Upper Cathedral Ward
>>337723126
I played all except BB and I cant see how anyone could possibly not vote for DaS from the ones I played.
>>337724459
Pre Rom Yahar'gul
DS>BB>DS3>DeS>>>>>>DS2
DaS > DeS = BB > DaS2 > DaS3
>>337729950
It's all good senpai.
I really liked how it seemed to reward caution more than some of the other fights in the game.
His shield made you aim your hits much more carefully, but that might have just been a shitty weapon choice on my part.
>>337730596
Because Demon's was better.
>people still voting DaS1
nostalgiafags
>>337723126
>muh bloodborne
>>337728616
Kill yourself
>>337728370
You only needed to post Gherman. Every other track, in any Miyazaki game doesnt come near to it.
DaS3 has to much Vocals. Only Dancer and Main Theme stick out for me.
>>337730404
But the CoDs are literally different from CoD4 onward. 4 and on do not have the same gameplay focus as 1-3.
>>337727721
You didnt even post the main theme or dancer. Nor Gundyr.
Get the fuck out, anon.
>>337731031
Why are you so butthurt about it please explain? Because it comes really close to DaS1 while it is a ps4 exclusive? Why can't shut the fuck up and enjoy the games?
Bloodborne, without a doubt.
Bloodborne is my favorite but 3 doesn't have its DLCs yet.
I don't know though, the game has a bunch of flaws that I don't think the DLC will fix.
for example it wont fix the setting being the same old crusty Souls while Bloodborne was ridiculously fresh and exciting.
>>337725421
t. Butthurt Mustard
>>337723358
See
>>337725114
Sorry senpai
Playing DS2 SoTFS for the first time and just wondering how can anyone argue DS1 is a better game? The world was boring, washed out, had no way to respec a shitty build, had no fast travel until way too late in the game, and was grey colors and low res textures the game. I tried to finish DS1 3 times and just couldn't.
>>337731351
Because it's a ps4 exclusive which limits the amount of ppl who can play it. What if someone doesn't want to buy a ps4? What if someone doesn't have the funds? Come on.
I own all systems to date and while it isn't necessarily fair to blame the game for executive decisions, that is in fact a reason why people deride Bloodborne while uplifting Dark souls uno.
Btw is there a way to make ds1 play in 60fps on PC?
I've only finished BB and DeS so far, so I'm holding my horses on voting just yet.
>>337731590
>had no way to respec a shitty build, had no fast travel until way too late in the game
These are good things, anon.
>>337723126
>bloodborne kiddos mad that his game is on second place
>second place
>Bad
i hate the fucking /bbg/ and i hate BB kids alot , they really can't take opinions that are not "hur BB is a masterpiece".
I played all the soulsborne and so far i think DS is the best one.
>>337723126
DS3 > BB > DaS > whocaresabouttherest
>>337731590
DaS2 honestly looks worse than 1 or DeS so I don't get why you're being a graphicsfag.
>>337731638
Which do you prefer of those?
>>337731595
That doesen't mean the game is bad. We are ranking the games by quality. And DSfix does it for me.
>Dark Souls 2 has more votes than Demon's Souls
Are these the kind of people I share this board with
>>337731783
DeS is good you faggot
>>337731842
It has wider availability, at least I hope that's the reason.
>>337731707
Why are you replying to the OP? Anyways other than that seriously who said they were mad. A PS4 exclusive beat the other games and is very close to DaS1 the defining souls game.
That alone shows how good is the game. But i can respect someone who doesen't like the game. But salty faggots like you are just shitposters.
I haven't played Demon's Souls so I think Dark Souls 1 is unilaterally THE best game in the franchise.
Dark Souls 2 remains a disappointment in many aspects.
Bloodborne was ultimately a mediocre experience that ended up fucking Miyazaki in the head.
Dark Souls 3 is fun to play but could have been so much better without the shitty Bloodborne inspirations in the combat and some of the enemies. I enjoy that it feels like the true Dark Souls sequel though.
Demon's Souls is beloved and still widely discussed by many, so I have to assume I missed out on something by not playing it.
dark souls 1 is simply the best
the level and layout design is something i would praise for being so masterfully crafted
lore is SIMPLY EBIN
mechanics are on point, except the pvp stuff but all soulsborne games suffer from that
fun as fuck bosses
well written characters you really get to like
difficulty is on point too, challenging and fair
i love all of the 5 games with all my heart, but dark souls 1 wins the prize
pic related, my favorite zone
why cant we all just get along? masterpiece of a series really
>>337731842
Its on PC, what did you expect?
>>337731807
Bloodborne.
I love DeS, and it has its own qualities. But it's fairly clunky and unpolished compared to BB, and DaS too, for that matter.
Bloodborne is the best game, but it bothers me how DeS is underrated. It's better than DS3 and DS2
>>337731842
PCucks at their finest.
>>337726084
> "hehe...im unique because I dislike things other people like. Nothing personnel."
My opinion > your opinion
>>337731092
What about Ludwig?
>>337732116
Because Bloodborne and DeS triggers 14 year old redittor pc players. And 14 year old PS players declares crusade on them. Kids basically.
>>337731842
The voting process is open to everyone, even if they haven't played all the games. So by virtue of being the least played game in the series, DeS simply doesn't stand a chance.
>>337732097
what salty?
bbfanboys are just cancer that cannot accept opinions that are not
>hur BB is da bes!!
If you say something different you didn't play the game or you are a "pckuk".
That is the /bbg/ in a nutshell.
Also the last part about ds beign better is just my opinion.
>>337731842
>>337731884
DeS is a good game, great even, but the others are better.
>>337732340
If we go DLC, i'd say Ludwig and Orphan, too, but that Violin in Gehrmans Track make my dick go hard. Especially in mid part.
This poll was a mistake.
>>337732218
It's hard to tell because it was my first Souls experience but it honestly felt like the most 'complete' in the series.
There've been sections in the later games that I felt were way too short/rushed but even replaying DeS recently I never felt that way.
>>337732349
im pretty sure sony players are the ones that start the shitposting, or at least thats what happens in every thread about bloodborne
exclusivity is really a shitty practice that should not be present, it made me buy a console because im a huge fucking fanfag for hackizaki, but what about the people that cant afford it but are also fanfags for miyagi?
>>337732648
/v/ was the mistake
>>337732543
It's definitely better than DaS2. As for the rest is arguable, I think it's better than DaS1.
>>337732802
Inventory system brings it down.
>>337723126
>all these blatant NEVER EVER fags voting for BB
It was fun and had a different (and good) aesthetic. It wasn't better than DaS or DeS and you're kidding yourself if you think so.
Whos the best Waifu?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10223838
>>337723126
Bloodborne is the best for two reasons.
1) Most compelling plot/world-building/lore. Slowly discovering the fucked up werewolf plague is actually the end result of arcane space horrors puppeteering the whole event was WAY more satisfying than any amount of "could dark be good?" mental gymnastics.
2) Personal opinion here: I fucking love the gameplay. I'm a dexfag who rarely ever used my offhand for anything other than pyro flames or soul arrows, so ditching shields for quicksteps and pistols improved the gameplay by leaps and bounds.
Dark souls 3 has mound makers, which is the single greatest thing to happen so far, but BB offers so much more. If only they didn't shoehorn in those fucking chalice dungeons and spent that dev time lengthening the main campaign instead, it'd be my all-time favourite game. That and if FROMlogic didn't scupper my first run.
>Don't try and punch the wolf to death, miss out on iosefka's clinic by not getting to the hunter's dream by dying
>Don't spot the chapel dweller, miss out on that ENTIRE NPC collectathon
>Gherman vanishes halfway through and never reappears for the fitful sleep scenes, I end up spoiling his status as the last boss by checking if he didn't just glitch out of my game entirely
>>337732218
>He thinks DeS is good.
>He's not joking.
Good concept? Some great atmosphere? And the mechanically worst game FromSoft has ever made. Yeah real winner there. Of course you also think that hitchy pile of lovecraft meme shit was good so..
Why are sonybros so fucking dumb? Makes me ashamed to play on a console.
>>337732903
why are corgi so cute
>>337732903
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
>>337732903
but what about Ludwig? Or Maria? pls don't bully her xDD
Bet you are a pc kuk nd didn't played it xD
>>337732903
> It wasn't better than... DeS and you're kidding yourself if you think so.
Yes, yes it was.
>>337733057
>Nito winning
kek
>>337732846
I don't like the inventory system either, but it doesn't detract from the game much.
>>337733116
Uhh.. isn't that a shiba...?
>>337733370
Means theres a lot of skeletals on /v/
>>337733057
>Nito
>no Gwyndolin
I wish I had the perspective of someone who didn't play Bloodborne who then went to DS3
The leap in quality from DS2 or DS1 is so ridiculously immense that it must be mindblowing to most people.
Too bad I loved and love Bloodborne way too much, and thats why DS3 kind of ended up disappointing me. Its still a fun game but goddamn is it just blatantly annoying or dull most of the time. All the reused areas, weapons and lore stuff doesn't help either.
Even the final fucking boss is a rehash from boss movesets, character moves or even boss music from a game that came out 5 years ago. Its a fitting end sure, but fucking christ, it just feels so lazy. Most of the fights are knights with sweep attacks and a few more special moves.
Its kind of like the relationship I had with 2. Fun game at the time but its not DS1 or BB. on both of those games I spent well over 1000 hours doing different things and even doing NG+7 SL1/BL4 challenge runs. SL1 in 3 is just fucking boring and ultimately annoying. They made it shinier and cleaner but at the end of the day its just another crusty old souls game that barely brought anything new to the table
>>337729510
>making another poll when most of us already left
spotted the assdamaged pcuck
>>337725509
Couldn't compete with BB's atmosphere and the world didn't feel nearly as branched out and interesting as 1.
>>337733604
I like how BB is winning it too
>>337732903
I missed the more in-depth character development but I was fine after discovering how kickass the weapons are, they're still the most fun to use in the series. Dungeons are a mistake though; as much as I enjoyed the bosses and random coop they're a perfect example of how proper level design is just as important as the bosses.
>>337733923
Not 'bosses' but combat.
>>337727549
If I can be so specific, the second phase of Gascoigne. Otherwise it's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCDEDi5gDPo
>>337733558
With me was the contrary.
Hate with passion DS2 , went to BB and have a great time , played DS3 and now is my favorite souls so far.
But i can see why you say that.
>>337733161
Shut the fuck up retard, DaS1 memes were way worse.
>>337725960
Just as much as Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are part of the same series.
Dark Souls>Bloodborne>Demon's Souls>Dark Souls 2 and 3
Bloodborne > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2
Objectively objective.
>>337724459
Blighttown
even with the framerate issues I just thought it was a fun area with an interesting layout, it was the area that felt the most like a video game level rather than some immersive environment, just a fun gauntlet challenge laid out for the player.
hell it's not even that hard, nothing in DaS1 is very hard other than TotG.
>>337733064
>Gherman vanishes halfway through and never reappears for the fitful sleep scenes, I end up spoiling his status as the last boss by checking if he didn't just glitch out of my game entirely
Holy shit that sucks.
Awhile ago some idiot posted on the wiki that the 'available NPCs' in the clinic included Gherman so I thought that guy in the beginning was the 'waking world' version or something.
>>337724457
>objectively
>factually
>undeniably
Nice projecting. And yet, you're still not in the majority opinion.
>>337723126
All of those games are roughly equal in greatness, but Bloodborne edges the victory because the weapons blow the rest of the series out of the water. Trick weapons are so much cooler than anything in the Souls games.
But in general, they're all 9's or 10's, and the difference between the worst and the best is almost totally insignificant.
>>337732691
Being self proclaimed "fans" doesn't give them the right to play whatever they want for free.
>>337733064
I think you should be blaming yourself for all those mistakes, except maybe the first one. I missed Iosefka's Clinic thing too, but you'd have to be seriously blind to miss the Chapel Dweller, damn son. Spoiling yourself because Gehrman was missing was a pretty silly fault of your own too.
You just gotta realize that you're not expected to figure all things out on your first playthrough, and it makes the second playthrough that much better too when you discover things you missed the first time around. I didn't even find any of the optional areas either. Cainhurst, Nightmare Frontier, Upper Cathedral Ward, missed all that shit.
>>337723713
It's very very good, but it's missing something, might just be that the novelty of the genre is gone by this point. Also has way too many references to the first game and not enough new memorable characters.
>>337732691
That's life dude. I like Total war so I keep upgrading my pc from time to time and I like Bloodborne so I bought a ps4.
If you want the little game's hole you have to pay the troll toll.
>>337727549
For each one personally it goes like this.
>Demon's Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ESqvGzdnvs
Maiden Astraea is a pretty close second. Overall Demon's Souls probably does have my favorite ost over all the games.
>Dark Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWp5-OP11KM
Gwyn's theme being my second choice.
>Dark Souls 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPGThfD_GY
Can't really remember much from Dark Souls ost to say what would be my second favorite
>Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8
Actually Gehrman would be my favorite too, so I just thought I post my second favorite instead. Bloodborne has so many great tracks to pick though.
>Dark Souls 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJSiaf9m55s
With the Abyss Watchers being my second favorite.
>>337725509
Ahahahah
Fuck off
>>337733057
Fuck off skeletons, you're not welcome here.
>>>/x/
DaS1 for me will always be the best.
The insane replay value and great level design is what really makes it for me. the build variety for PvE is much greater than any other Souls game.
You're given so much freedom of where to go RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING that you're not given in other Souls games, all the others there's branching paths but usually only a few of them and only later on.
And the variety of playstyles is unmatched. You can be a fancy fencing sorcerer, you can hide behind a shield all day (remember when this was viable?), you can wear heavy armor THAT ACTUALLY WORKS and tank through hits, or you can be a dextrous flipping faggot wearing rags and it's all equally viable and useful against the enemies.
>>337733057
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10223838
Doll is TALL!
>>337733057
Got a thread for it
>>337734153
>>337734772
>it was the area that felt the most like a video game level rather than some immersive environment, just a fun gauntlet challenge laid out for the player
Sen's Fortress too.
>>337724459
>Ds1: Hard find to say one specific place. The whole super connected undead burg + gardens + sewers + blighttown + drake valley complex still one of the best crafted in several years.
>Ds2: Frozen Eleum Loyce, except the outskirts.
>Ds3: Grand archives is the best area in the game desing wise. Only one bofire, and a shitload of shortcuts.
On visual aspects: Ash lake, Shrine of Amana and Irithyl.
DaS1 is the best RPG
Bloodborne is the best action game
>>337728554
>Not the current date
come on now
>>337734924
But i said the userbase is highter, i know BB and my opinion is in the minority, because most of you havent played it probably.
>>337736221
Cathedral of the Deep is better than the archives tbqh
>>337723126
did miyazaki said in the interview no more souls games from him ?or no more souls games in general from the studio in the next years?
how about LEAST favorite area from each game?
>DaS1
Tomb of the Giants. as dogshit as Lost Izalith was at least I could see it. I dread doing TotG every time. It's just a straight up annoying area.
>Bloodborne
Nightmare of Mensis, there is nothing fun about Frenzy. honorable mention to the more difficult Chalice dungeons for being tedious, I actually liked them until the enemies started scaling out of control on HP and damage and every single encounter was like fighting a boss.
>DaS3
Farron Keep. It's like the swamp at the bottom of Blighttown only there's no water walking ring and the enemies are all far fucking worse.
>>337736586
He basically said Dark Souls over. No Dark Souls 4. Hes probably going for a sci-fi souls type game.
>>337736694
Yeah I didn't mind Farron Keep that much or any level in Dark Souls 3 honestly which is quite something to say since usually there's always at least one place I dread going to. However it really should have that one ring from Dark Souls 1 that let you run through deeper water without any problem.
>>337736694
Fuck whoever designed farrons keep. It is just a large circle of slow poison.
>>337736694
>Demon's Souls
3-3. What was the point of stuffing so many enemies on that small staircase?
>Dark Souls
The obvious ones.
>Dark Souls 2
All of them, Sunken King areas in particular.
>Bloodborne
Unseen Village after Rom, because of the recycled enemy spam.
>Dark Souls 3
Still have to decide.
>>337736694
Mensis wasn't that bad. I hated the Nightmare Frontier .. boringgggggggggg
dark souls 3 in terms of overall quality
The story progression, the constant motivator, retrieve the cinders of lords, highlights the main characters of the game, and allows a really satisfying flow into the games world, developing the subplots around the lords, while also developing around the other characters and other lore developments.
Far too many have dismissed this because of how anor londo is in the game, when the references in dark souls 3, gwyndolin, dragonslayer armour, nameless king have all been handled really well, and actually develop and add to the world surrounding and encompassing lothric. Compare this in essence to old dragonslayer in dark souls 2 which is pretty much literally a copy paste job.
The NPC's in dark souls 3 are by far the best in the series, the branching and changing quests, the interactions between npc's, it's very nice, I enjoyed how they subvert traditions like patches actually being helpful with greirat, siegward is on a path to stop someone who has become lost (yhorm in his fallen to the abyss state) in comparison to how sieglinde had to stop siegmeyer, hawkwood's history with the abyss watchers and his own quest to become a dragon completely abandoning the crestfallen tropes of becoming useless, and leonhard's abandonment of what was presumably a lautrec like role, instead blaming the player for corrupting rosaria's soul and running off with her to gwynevere's room.
I heavily enjoyed the bosses, each one felt both unique from eachother mechanically, unique from one another thematically, unique in their purpose in the world, each one apart from ancient wyvern has multiphase dynamics and multi phase music transitions, and the music is both really fucking good, but also thematically distinct from each other, which differentiated it to the majority of BB's soundtrack to me apart from a few notable ones like ebrietas and gehrman plus the dlc themes.
cont.
>>337737291
Atmospherically, I think Oceiros, twin princes, soul of cinder, nameless king, abyss watchers, champion gundyr, pontiff sulayvahn, aldrich, yhorm, dancer of the boreal valley, and deacons of the deep are the standout players, but that's only because they are all fantastic bosses, both musically, visually and how the fight feels, they did a great job at making the lords of cinder in particular emphasised by the embering.
The area design is the most satisfied I have felt in the entire series with, the long winding layouts, the constant use of shortcuts, and the sheer variety in the game is really done well, irithyll's icy blue gaze, archdragon peak's completely opposite feeling to the rest of the game, lothric castle and grand archives royal feeling along with that sense of wonder that's given by the vast pilgrim butterflies and darksign sun, along with the sense of scale you get with the great shortcuts, the huge rise tower in farrons keep, the entirety of cathedral of the deep, the entrance of smouldering lake, the view of profane capital from within irithyll, and it's vertical presence, the bleakness of untended graves, I absolutely loved how each area felt both natural and flowing within the world, yet heavily distinct from one another.
The world design, while certainly less interconnected than the other games, works well due to the distinct acts of progression, start-abyss watchers - carthus - yhorm - lothric-end, the game constantly gives you points of reference that never really fail like dark souls 2's odd geography decisions, and it's unreliable viewpoints, drangleic castle and dragon aerie for example, whereas points of reference are constantly available in dark souls 3, see irithyll-undead settlement, smouldering lake - irithyll dungeons entrance., high wall - the world, or undead settlements tower's giant and the white trees for four great ones
cont.
>>337724937
You should try playing it before posting. Ask mom real nice...
I'm not sure if they made it for PS3 though
>>337737091
i wouldnt mind it if it didnt make you slow walk
>>337736772
Theyre making an armored core game. Screenshot this
>>337736772
well thats what the western press was saying but from where came " sci fi souls" miyazaki never said anything about sci fi i mean i would love a "Blame" souls but miyazaki never said he was interested on a sci fi scenario for his games
>>337736694
I like this.
>Demon's
4-2, I hated the flying stingrays and this may've just been the most boring part of the game for what it's worth.
>DaS1
Izalith. They forgot that the respawn in front of Dragon God is what made that boss so forgivable, and I wanted more to explore.
>DS2
Either Harvest Valley or Drangleic Castle, both of these areas are fucking boring to play through and both look hideous.
>BB
Nightmare of Mensis, specifically the school. Way too fucking tiny.
>DS3
Profaned Capital. See right above.
This is the only correct answer:
DS>BB>DS2Scholar>DS3>=DemonsSouls
>>337727146
>best bosses
>big dudes with flaming swords
OK
Also, what music? I can only think of Pontiff.
You're right, the quality doesn't drop. It's shit in the beginning but gets better. Everything fun is near the end of the game, so if you want to make a specific build, you would have already completed 80% of the game before you get the fun stuff that you probably made your build for.
Also,Ghru Leapers.
>>337737754
Funny enough I actually loved the school, the weird enemies there remind me of some of my favorite Lovecraft stories.
I don't own a PS4, but I played like half of Bloodborne over at a friend's house. It's easilly the best.
>>337736772
>From
>Stoping making sequels to a somewhat successful game.
15 Armored core games and 7 Kings field games sends regards.
>>337724459
Tower of Latria
>>337737401
Overall I just feel the game has the highest consistency of any of the games, the bosses, areas, story and lore were all both very satisfyingly memorable to me, I was never bored.
By comparison, I felt demons souls held the second highest level of "consistency" amongst the souls games, and while I certainly don't find the pve as interesting, and I dislike a lot of the music, the games lore and plot is really well done, and differs in many ways to how souls and bb was handled, it felt much more like a closed off tale that didn't need to be expanded on, it was relatively simple and worked well because of it and how it gave motivations to the characters.
Dark Souls 1 has stunning and memorable bosses, even more so than any other game in the series, but unfortunately, like demons souls, this hasn't prevented them from aging mechanically, and a lot of the ones that were revered, are quite simple and less satisfying in terms of mechanics, but they are designed so well, and feel lovingly put in the world, vary and have purpose in the world. The game certainly drops off at anor londo though, I feel the later areas lack a certain "importance" to the games events, by way of them lacking player progression feelings, and feeling more vacant due to the rushed content.
Dark Souls 1's dlc is largely fantastic, with memorable npc encounters, a living breathing world feeling, and memorable, challenging to this day bosses.
Dark Souls 2's base game's myriad of problems prevent me from enjoying it to it's full potential, the tracking, hitbox issues etc are very disappointing.
Dark Souls 2's dlc has perfect level design, utterly perfect. Large senses of verticality and unwasted points of reference, the only disappointment were some of the bosses, and an overall feeling of a lack of npc's.
cont.
>>337738156
Dark Souls 3 is the last one that started development before new management took over.
>>337736694
>DeS
Stonefang. Its just really boring and I drop the game every time I realize I have to go back
there.
>DaS1
Lost Izalith. Its shit.
>DaS2
Harvest Valley. Both mechanically and visually awful.
>BB
Honestly Byrgenworth for how much it was hyped up. Seriously the most disappointing area in the entire series. It was literally just a tiny room.
>DaS3
Demon Ruins because its literally just a chalice dungeon with no boss at the end. It should have just been cut.
>>337738063
Me too, that ain't my problem: School of Mensis is big shit, and I really wanted more of it.
I had the exact same issue with the Upper Cathedral but the Research Hall completed it. No joke it's almost exactly what I wanted regarding 'more inner workings of the Church, please'
>>337738669
BB drops off for me at cathedral ward, because of various area design/bosses reasons, along with the game's scattered approach to rewarding area design. I dislike how the game approaches with it's lack of plentiful npc's, but also at the same time enjoyed the atmosphere this gave off, it was kind of conflicting, I felt that a lot of the games bosses were frustrating in terms of mechanics, celestial emissary, rom, and shadows of yharnam multiple enemy encounter design, the larger health pools of the bosses in general, and while this for me, didn't add a lot to the difficulty of the bosses, it certainly made them more tedious.
The old hunters I was conflicted with as well, although it certainly added a ton to the game, it was still lacking a bit on the npc side of things, and felt dissonant after how well bb approached world design around the cathedral ward, other than the nightmare areas, I felt laurence and the living failures were fundamentally not very good bosses, orphan was very, but ludwig was mixed, his first phase seemed designed for player frustration with the awkward hitbox on the jump and charge attacks, luckily his second phase was brilliant.
If I had to rate the series, I'd probably go:
DaS3>DaS=DeS>BB>DaS2
If I was rating them as games on mechanical levels including bosses, combat, weapons, spell, armour variety and encounter design I'd say:
DaS3>DaS>BB>DaS2>DeS
>>337738791
I never got the purpose of Byrgenworth. You don't need TWO Miskatonic University analogues, it just clogs up the story and obscures the lore.
>>337738860
It's almost insulting that the research hall or an area similar wasn't in the base game though to be honest. It was very obviously a case of rushed development.
The clocktower had a huge presence in the marketing material, and generally throughout the game's pre-release lifecycle, I was utterly disappointed with how upper cathedral ward played out.
>>337739026
>I never got the purpose of Byrgenworth
All the events in the game are a consequence of what the students of Byrgenwerth did.
If it wasn't for them Yharnam would be a normal city.
>>337739384
I mean yeah, but again, there's also the School of Mensis.
Byrgenworth was way too small to feel important. They very easily could have just said the School of Mensis founded blood healing. There is no need for two Miskatonic Universities, especially when one of them is literally two open rooms with a balcony.
>>337739552
>They very easily could have just said the School of Mensis founded blood healing
But they did, the school of Menis is part of the Healing Church.
>>337737142
>Sunken King areas in particular
This might be the absolute shittiest taste I have ever encountered on this board. And that's saying a lot.
What are your issues with it?
>we will never have an area as god tier as Research Hall again
why
>>337738923
>cries about lack of npc characters in bb
>rates ds3 number one
Play the games please!
>>337723126
>who's king of the shitpile?
Not matter what, you all lose.
>>337723358
LESS than 50% of /vg/'s Souls regulars have played Bloodborne
It's only rational to assume that the percentage on /v/ (in which there are less dedicated souls fans) is even lower. I mean how many people on /v/ even own a PS4, let alone Bloodborne?
With the exception of Demon's every other Souls game has been on every platform. /v/ is majority PCgamers (the big majority, might I add)
Bloodborne being second on a /v/ poll is actually very surprising considering the low ammount of people here who have played it relative to the number who has played any other DarkSouls game.
The only way to explain such a high % number in the poll is that most prople who played Bloodborne found it to be the best, otherwise it would be much, much lower.
>>337740380
the DaS3 DLC is going to make DaS3 the greatest game ever made. Screencap this post this is going to be epic when Im right
>>337727146
>post Rom is a drop in quality
You have fucking terrible taste
>>337740380
research hall was actually rather shit in my opinion
the staircase effect was better than dukes archives due to being justified by the mechanism, but still felt like a reiteration of a theme, and the practically one whole enemy type apart from those cunts with guns didn't do much to make the area feel interesting.
For atmospheric effect, I would say that ash lake is the best area in the series.
For level design I would say that either brume tower or shulva, or the entirety of lothric castle and grand archives is the best.
For beautiful and stunning, memorable visuals, I'd go for irithyll, ash lake, anor londo, archdragon peak, yahar'gul or brume tower.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10206223/r
Only Souls game I haven't played yet is DeS.
I own it on PS3 but I'm afraid to touch it!
Please, decide for me. Should I bother playing it?
I'm so fucking depressed guys. I feel no motivation to really play anything. I keep looking all my game library and I wanna crawl up in a ball and sleep.
>>337740785
Yahar'gul goes from decent to garbage after he dies
Nightmare Frontier and Nightmare of Mensis are widely agreed to be the worst areas in the game
Cainhurst is short as fuck and mediocre
game goes way downhill after Rom
>>337740708
It's far more likely that the people rating BB the best are sony fags.
I don't even think BB is a bad game by the way, it's just that the BB fanbase and sony console warriors by large are always rather demented when it comes to these sort of things.
>>337725270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIB2zUdGSRQ&t=1m31s
Scifi souls when???
I wanna play Blame!
Gimme a gun in 1 hand and a high-frequency blade in the other, BB-style
>>337724459
Ash Lake and Hunters Dream were comfy af
>>337725608
Shit opinion senpai
>>337740525
Honestly, Bloodborne's npc's were a let down, but as I said, it fits the feeling of the game, but also conflicts in that they were really hamfisted.
Nothing in BB came anywhere near close to siegward entering yhorm's fight, solaire becoming infested, siegmeyer and sieglinde, hawkeye gough, lautrec, patches in the cathedral, hawkwood's dragon standoff, anri's "marriage", sirris and hodrick, logan's encounter in dukes archives, leonhard in gwynevere's room, greirat and his escapades, yuria and her interactions with orbeck, anri and yoel.
I appreciate that german is good, but I felt that the other npc's specifically the ones that can be routed to oedon chapel/iosefka's clinic were so awfully done, adella felt underdeveloped, the weird incense guy doesn't really do anything, arianna has a memorable moment, but doesn't actually do much in game.
Eileen and Aldred were good, but not enough to put it anywhere near the other games.
>>337726403
I agree with this.
Read, and learn from this wisdom, /v/:
DaS1 = BB > DaS3 > DeS >>> DaS2
>>337742258
Good taste
>>337726041
Favourite:
Lothric/Lorian
Four Kings
Burnt Ivory King
Kalameet
Nameless King
Oceiros
Orphan of Kos
Pontiff Sulayvahn
Artorias
Darklurker
Least Favourite:
Rom the vacuous spider
Bed of Chaos
Micolash
The one reborn
Ancient Dragon
Executioners Chariot
Celestial Emmisary
Ancient Wyvern
Old Iron King
Dragon God
Laurence
>>337729970
Most "souls fans" haven't even played DeS
>>337723126
Almost 1000 votes as of this post and BB and Dark Souls 1 are neck and neck. DS2 in last place even getting beaten by Demon's. Says a lot about all these "apologize to Dark Souls 2" threads and it's defenders. Mostly likely it's some group of like 10 reddit autists spamming it as much as possible. I knew there was no way people thought DS2 was good.
>>337733057
The answer is obvious isn't it guys?
>>337729445
Capra demon is a classic
>>337741015
But that same argument can be applied to PC-only gamers or Xboners (if they still exist) or those who hate Sony/PS4 (which is also a lot of /v/) by not voting on BB.
One shitty fanbase counteracts the other and they cancel eachother's votes out, only raising the number but not shifting %'s to any one side
>>337742765
Honestly though, the huge influx of newer players with bb, and dark souls 1, tied with the heavy shitposting on both sides of these fanbases, along with the relative newer nature of dark souls 3, and the heavily controversial dark souls 2 is very obviously is going to result in these games being at top.
If it weren't for the large amount of goldface spam, and recent influx of "bb is the best game ever released" even before DS3 came out, and the large amount of unnecessary threads I'd believe you and say that the polls were in any way useful.
By it's nature BB and dark souls 1 are always going to be inflammatory in these discussions because of the mentioned large new playerbases, the platform exclusivity and "trophy" like tribe nature ps4 fags have with bb, makes these polls relatively useless overall.
>>337726041
Adjudicator
Gehrman
Champion Gundyr
Fool's Idol
Gaping Dragon
Micolash
>>337743606
what do you like about Adjudicator?
>>337738063
Agreed, it felt cool. I wish that it would have been featured in Byrgenwerth instead of them relegating this huge piece of lore to a fucking shack in the woods.
>>337743467
>huge influx of newer players with bb
There's no such thing.
>>337743685
He's a big guy and feels like a Zelda boss. I liked his tongue attacks and breaking the floors.
>>337743762
There really is though.
Maybe not on 4chan specifically, but on tons of other forums, many people mention how they came into the series with BB, this phenomenon hasn't really been seen at large since dark souls 1 days. It probably comes as a result of being a flagship exclusive for the system with good marketing and good reviews, not to mention the heavy bundling it received.
And while the people participating in this thread to offer insight might not have started with BB, it's likely that a lot of lurkers, and therefore potential poll participants have.
>>337723126
>Soulsborne
Kill yourself, faggot.
>>337744201
>many people mention how they came into the series with BB
Just as many came into the series with Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3, unless you have some numbers that prove otherwise.
Stop trying to make "Soulsborne" a thing.
>>337744210
Thanks salty senpai
>>337744404
How can we make a thing that is already a thing?
Should we port it to pc :^)
>>337744336
I mentioned how the phenomena hasn't been seen since dark souls 1.
With dark souls 2, and dark souls 3 there have been less reasons to pick up the series mid-way.
BB was a new ip and a different tonal setting for the game, it both appealed to newer playstation 4 buyers, people looking for good exclusive games to justify their purchase, and also horror focussed gamers, the fast sales of this title should be heavy indication.
Dark Souls 1 gave availability of the series to both pc/xbox players, expanding the user base.
With Dark Souls 2, the series had already had 2 instalments on ps, and dark souls was by all means a hit on pc, as well as doing moderately decent on xbox, it sold less than dark souls 1 in general though in some areas.
Dark Souls 3 likewise, the only real potential for gaining newer players is in the xbox one region, where less sales have been made.
While there are most definitely going to be newer players on the other platforms, it's just less likely, and in line with expectations, it hasn't been seen as omnipresently as bloodborne was on the internet with the new player topics.
Kings Field>Soulsborne
face it kiddos
>>337724279
same here, over 800 hours in DaS2.
>>337732116
also this, the only one i didn't play was DeS, and i fucking love every entry, with 2 being in the lead and BB being the last.
>>337744917
So many assumptions and no facts.
As a matter of fact Dark Souls 3 outsold all the other games in the series Bloodborne included, meaning that many, many people who bought it never tried the prequels.
This is true for every platform.
There's no reason to believe that Bloodborne introduced more people to the series, it's just your wild guess.
>>337744929
>Soulsborne
Kill yourself, faggot.
bloodborne is the best soulsborne game and it would be even more widely recognized as such if it were on pc
>>337743467
All I see is a fair and square poll anon, I think you're projecting too much.
In fact, I WOULD trust the opinion of those who voted for BB more than I do of those who voted for DarkSouls, because the majority of people who played BB also played DaS, while the majority of people who played DaS have yet to play BB and voted for DaS simply because it's the best out of the smaller pool of Souls games they played.
I only said "would" because I don't think that way, I just assume everyone voted fairly with good judgement and played every game instead of projecting what I think they are doing.
>>337744201
>many people mention how they came into the series with BB, this phenomenon hasn't really been seen at large since dark souls 1 days
That's completely anecdotal Anon, and you know it.
Factually Bloodborne sold worse than any DarkSouls game, so it's impossible to be the "next big exodus of new players", when that happened more with DaS2 simply looking at sales numbers, and will probably happen with DaS3 too.
>>337744917
>With dark souls 2, and dark souls 3 there have been less reasons to pick up the series mid-way.
Technically yes, there's less of a reason to start mid-way. In reality however, a lot of people did. DaS2 sold more than DaS1, meaning it got a lot of new players.
The difference in sales between DaS1 and DaS2 is bigger than the total sales of BB
Here's why Demon's Souls is irrefutably the best:Scraping SpearBaby's NailAdjudicator's ShieldBlessed Mirdan Hammer
>>337723126
Demon's Souls imo.
>That boss fight that was a powered up online player.
Just bought bloodborne and doom. How did I do /v/?
das3
bb has the worst pvp, worst area/world/music/magic/weapon/ring(rune) effect/boss variety, worst healing system, horrible issues like loading screens to travel and the content after amelia is dogshit, forbidden woods is long, boring, with fuck all to do shadows of yharnam are shit, byrgenwerth is underutilised, rom is garbage, yahargul is shit with a shit boss and one good one, both nightmare areas are loose and underdeveloped with mediocre or shit bosses, upper cathedral ward is shit, ebrietas is good, castle cainhurst is massively rushed, but logarius is good, the gem farming and upgrade farming is horrendously underthought, chalice dungeons as well are so fucking bad, the tedious repetetive design and shit gank mobs are unfun as fuck
das1 runs like garbage without mods, and the areas after anor londo feel utterly rushed and lifeless, nito, seath, bed of chaos, firesage and pinwheel are all rushed.
das2 is plain rancid shit
demons souls is really outdated, although somehow still manages to be the second best game in the series.
>>337746324
You were doing fine until you ran to the internet and asked for approval.
>>337746360
>all that hate
Jeez, its a wonder you like anything. Just out of curiosity whats a game you really like? Like name a favorite game of yours, I'm curious as to what standard you are judging these games on.
>>337737142
Really? I liked the sunken king more than the entire base game, and even a bit more than Brume Tower.
>>337746360
>Bloodborne
>worst world
>worst music
>worst boss variety
weak b8 m8
>>337741643
You forgot about poor little Yharnam girl, nun lady trying to gut you, and the Chapel Dweller.
But I'll agree, BB's strength is more in it's setting and atmosphere. I don't think the NPC encounters were weak, just not as much a presence
>Bloodborne being in second place by 16 votes despite the fact that Dark Souls' audience is 3 times a as big because of unexclusivity
>>337747016
i noticed that too
>>337746541
My games of all time are as follows:
Diablo 2
Eternal Darkness
Dark Souls
This is completely subjective of course, I could name countless flaws for any of these games.
Unfortunately with Bloodborne in particular, the game's flaws really soured my overall experience, mainly the streamlined nature of the game, and how it always seemed just about ready to blossom into something far, far more interesting, but never did.
Whether or not I end up preferring dark souls 3 overall to dark souls 1 is something I will have to dwell on, but fundamentally, I believe it is the better game due to it having much better overall game design than anything from has done previously. I'm not sure that it will ever have as much impact as dark souls 1 did though.
Demons souls I played afterwards, and while it was overall more consistent, and I think it's the better game in terms of world building, it didn't have the same first game impact which gave dark souls 1 a spot.
>>337723126
>Borne
>Which is the best souls game
Pick one and only one
>BB is an option
>Awful PvP system (bell maiden's and shit)
>Introduced reduced health for invaders
>Shitty covenants
>Le chalice dungeons xDD (repetitive and boring, need to grind for weapon upgrades [gems])
>Gimmicky boss fights
>Armor is cosmetic, where the fuck is poise?
>Spam gun for parry, almost like pre-nerf monastery scimitar
>Rolling barely takes up any endurance
>Very limited number of armors and weapons
Why is it that people like this shit?
>>337741121
>Alfred kills himself
>You can revive Annalise
>>337747336
Because it's ps4 exclusive or the fact that it appeals to lovecraft fags despite the game utilising the potential in such an overall shallow way.
>>337741643
Alfred being splattered in entrails and blood after killing the queen was on par with most of that, I thought. But regardless, Bloodborne did skimp on the NPCs with meaningful questlines.
>>337747203
I think Bloodborne's combat and atmosphere and setting was far more interesting than the Dark Souls series, and enjoyed the bosses immensely, but I guess to each is their own.
IMO Dark Souls totally falls apart after anor londo/dukes archive. I played Demons back on release and was fairly disappointed with Dark Souls to a certain extent, and downright was upset by DS2. Bloodborne felt like a true return to form for me.
>>337724459
Latria, sen's fortress, irythill
>>337723126
Trying to ignore nostalgia I have for demon's and dark, I'd say 3 was the best.
>>337747336
>Awful PvP
yeah, because that doesn't happen in souls games
>Shitty covenants
yeah, because those never happen in souls games
>Gimmicky boss fights
yeah, because those don't happen in souls games
Objectively I want to say Bloodborne... but I just plain dislike the atmosphere of the game. Must be awesome for people who like lovecraft shit though.
>>337747336
don't start pls , Bornekids are insuferable fags.
>hur is less weapons but BB are better !! cuz transformations!
>hur BB magic is better !
>Chalices are perfect
>Parry is perfect that way
>Armors are important
>Is the hardest Souls
really i can see why people hate that fucking fanbase.
Why isn't Diablo 3 included on this poll? You biased fucking idiot.
If you didn't pick Bloodborne , than I'm sorry but you are just blinded by bias and butthurt that you don't have a ps4
>>337747665
>Bornekids are insuferable fags.
>i can see why people hate that fucking fanbase.
I see leaving these threads was the best thing I've ever done.
>>337747531
>defending One/Micolash/nurse
just no
>>337747729
Or, you know, you just have your own personal opinion formed from your unique experience with the games.
If it was ever perfected and given the tender love and care of miyazaki heading team 2, i'd honestly have to give the title to dark souls II, it had so much right going for it (on top of being long as FUCK). However, bloodborne really takes the cake for reusing an old formula and making it fresh again. It's a actual shame its a ps4 exclusive.
>>337731842
Dark Souls 2 is better than demons souls.
>>337747807
I like those bosses. If you'd like to offer criticism of them beyond "no" I would be interested in hearing them.
One Reborn is Tower Knight 2.0 which was cool to me. Micolash was very special because it was the first Souls boss in memory that just runs around a whole level blabbering on about crazy shit, it was a unique experience. And Mergo's Wet Nurse is a pretty straightforward boss but a cool design nonetheless.
>>337747531
I mentioned how I felt dark souls 1 fell apart after anor londo as well.
But I also mentioned how I felt BB falls apart after cathedral ward as well, BB in general was disappointing to me after both demons souls and dark souls 1 because of that drop off combined with the huge streamlined feeling I got.
I also didn't enjoy the bosses very much, I found far too many of them didn't leave much impact, and a lot of them for me personally only had any measure of challenge as a result of their bloated health pools.
The entire string of bosses from forbidden woods - mergo's wet nurse, were by far the worst in a souls game for me.
>>337747665
>>don't start pls , Bornekids are insuferable fags.
>>really i can see why people hate that fucking fanbase.
Reminder that PCfats were so fucking booty blasted by the mere existence of Bloodborne that they kicked out all discussion of the game out of /dsg/ like the whiny children they are.
>voted for BB
>see that its a close 2nd to DS
Im ok with this
>>337747665
Exactly. Arcane is about as useful as resistance.
>>337747574
>yeah, because that doesn't happen in souls games
Bloodborne is the 4th souls archetype game. This level of fucking up is unacceptable. All the covenants are fucking detrimental or useless, except for fucking 1. Every other souls game had some redeeming PvP, even Dark Souls 2 and DeS. Dark Souls 3 was the only other game to have OPTIONAL gimmicky boss fights.
>>337748224
>Bloodborne is the 4th souls archetype gam
Bloodborne is the 8th Kings Field archetype game.
>>337726632
My nigga.
Shrine of storms is really underrated
>>337747807
Not him, but Micolash was stylish and memorable, I coudln't care less if the fight itself was easier than defeating a random NPC hunter.
Wet Nurse was nice because of what happens around the boss, not the boss itself. You hear a baby crying throughout the world for hours, ever since you kill Rom, then you encounter her defending the baby's crib, and her sountrack is pretty unique, then when you kill her (after the underwhelming fight) you don't see "PREY SLAUGHTERED", instead you get 25 seconds of nothing but a baby in his dying breaths, followed by "NIGHTMARE SLAIN" and you get his umbilical cord, which of course you can eat.
Everything about that build-up and ending is neat, so it's another case of me not even minding that the boss fight mechanics are mediocre.
I have no excuse for One Reborn, it's a boring fight and has no alure outside of itmuch like 90% of DaS3 bossesso you got that one right at least
>>337736694
Des: 4-2. It was a bit boring compared to the rest.
Das: izalith is bad.
Das2: iron keep
Bb:the area with the spiders, the dungeons.
Das3:profaned capital
>>337748363
This further supports my point if I am not confused. Bloodborne has some good things to it, I will admit, but at the very best it is about as good as DeS or DS2. Despite what /v/ thinks, DS1 is the best, and DS2 and DeS aren't absolute trash. Bloodborne isn't either. But Bloodborne isn't near where DS1 stands.
>>337749010
>Despite what /v/ thinks, my opinions are facts and far more important than yours
Please kill yourself, I am begging you.
![BB_MergosWetNurse_Still001-1428952922551[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9VN2Pue.jpg "BB MergosWetNurse Still001-1428952922551[1]")
>>337748927
Wet Nurse is an amazing boss fight in my opinion for the theme alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKdU19drsw
It seriously gives me chills.
Demon's souls > Bloodborne = Dark Souls III > Dark Souls >>>>> Dark Souls II
>>337749210
This theme is better than anything in the Dark Souls soundtrack desu.
>>337723126
As someone who has played every Souls game as they came out, I just couldn't get into BB very much. To me, it felt like they took a Souls game and started converting it to another kind of game but just stopped at a point, leaving the design partly in Souls and partly in this new thing, without fully satisfying the design of either side. It was fun but, to me, felt flat and wasn't very compelling.
But I know that a lot of people think it's the absolute best.
At the same time it feels barely different from Dark Souls 3 in so many ways, but I've seen a good amount of people adamant they only like one or the other.
Could someone who likes BB most explain their feelings toward it?
>>337749364
And this theme is more memorable than anything in bloodborne!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enkEiD8PC5o
>>337723126
>it's the exact same ranking as the last 1000+ vote poll
neat
DaS>BB>DaS3>DeS>DaS2
enjoy vomiting this reddit-tier opinion
>>337749612
>everything I don't like is reddit
>>337749498
meh
>>337749308
Most accurate rating.
>>337749498
>Choir voices of guys going UGHHHH
Gee, haven't heard that before.
>>337748058
>>337748927
Micolash was a big run and hit battle, It get tedious very quick. I can see why people defend that battle , even whn is clear there are better hunter/npc fights in the game.
Wet nurse is basically a middle boss , this is bascilly the one to the last boss of the game.
The design of the battle is one of the worst i saw for a boss , but the mist clone was ok.
The baby part can be neat all you want but that doesn't count as part of the boss fight. Is just part of the atmos/story.
One reborn you say its like Tower 2.0 because of the mages in the balcony?
Because without that is just a big block to hit and be aware about his AoE attack.
Both Nightmare paths are smaller , like they don't have more ideas to put in the game.
Wet nurse is basically next to Micolash.
Nightmare is hard for the bad reasons.
>>337749101
>I give multiple facts about why Bloodborne is worse than the other games
>Have an opinion that is pretty agreeable
>Straw poll itself says DS1 is the best
>People who filled out straw poll are users of this board
I will kill myself but only if you videotape yourself doing it first so that I know it is safe, otherwise my mommy won't let me.
>>337748927
Nameless King's sheer spectacle, twin princes being the only duo boss fight done right in the series, champ's insane athletic fighting style, pontiff's huge stage 2 breakdown, aldrich devouring gwyndolin, the dancer's creeping, ethereal moveset, the abyss watchers theme and reviving mechanics, the entrance to high lord wolnir's fight, the deacons summoning the curse cloud, taking down yhorm with the storm ruler, curse rotted greatwood falling down like 50 feet and growing a giant arm, iudex transforming into a gooey mess, dragonslayer armour actually being a good if not better derivative of ornstein himself, soul of cinder's crazy 5 tier moveset, oceiros's begging rant about his baby dragon were memorable as fuck though.
Nameless King in particular, that fucking bell ringing storm effect converting archdragon peak in it's entirety from a still calm and placid environment to the oppressive and misty oh shit it's happening tier environment was memorable as fuck, the entrance as he swoops down and the huge visual satisfaction of from finally doing a dragon flying fight right with the thundery slams, the lightning circling throws, the huge gust weaving flybacks, the huge explosion in the cutscene, the storm flying around the king to the wind riding moveset in stage 2.
If you're claiming dark souls 3's bosses are mundane or have no allure, you are absolutely false.
>>337749498
>[chanting intensifies]
It seriously bothers me how 90% if not 100% if Dark Soul 1, 2 and 3 songs consist of chanting. It's gotten overused.
At leat Bloodborne added some string instruments into the mix.
>>337749010
>But Bloodborne isn't near where DS1 stands.
>Despite what /v/ thinks
You know humanity isn't your hivemind, right?
We kind of... have different opinions, and stuff, you know man?
>Despite what /v/ thinks
I don't get what you meant by this on so many levels.
One of which is assuming all of /v/ thinks the same when the poll shows a clear split between BB and DaS.
Then your use of the word "despite", which leads me to believe you think your opinion is more relevant than anyone else's, even in someone else's eyes
>>337749498
Yeah it's pretty good. I was taken aback so much the first time I found that zone.
Although, for some reason I actively listen to BB's soundtrack so much more than any other Souls game.
I appreciate them all and rate them closely, but I enjoy listening to BB's stuff so much more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXL6AaA1UCc
>>337748204
oh yeah , lets forget all the
>hur ds is so shit now
>everyone needs to buy a ps4 to play bloodborne
>pc kuk this , pc keks that
but yeah , only the "pc mustards" were the cancer here , not the absolute cancerous bb fanbase.
>>337750224
>Spacing your commas
>>337749818
>>337749984
Literally nothing in BB comes close to the grandiose, mystical, wondrous and even eldritch feeling you get when you first walk into ash lake (which is pretty funny considering what bloodborne was trying to go for with it's influences), the contrast, the monolithic environment, the calm water, the absolute alien and isolated it feeling it has from the rest of the world, all whilst having a memorable, and haunting choir voice, the large gaps in particular between the vocals at the beginning really helps to emphasise both the scale and the mythic feeling that develops as you walk down from the great hollow.
>>337749984
>hurr durr I can trivialise things based on "ooh ahh" sounds
So it's fine for me just to trivialise 70% of bloodborne's soundtrack as stock sounding horror tropes on stringed instruments?
Wonderful.
>>337750224
Not him but I have spent a considerable amount of time here, and in dsg and bbg in /vr/ and have never actually seen someone unironically calling someone a pcuck or saying the whole never ever thing. You guys are overplaying a non-issues for lack of argument.
>>337750579
>and in dsg and bbg in /vr/
yeah i can see why
>>337750542
> the contrast, the monolithic environment, the calm sky, the absolute alien and isolated it feeling it has from the rest of the world, all whilst having a memorable, and haunting choir voice
Oh I see.
>ds1 and BB out infront once again
/v/ has done me proud, a few months and ds3 will be bumped down a rank.
>>337750134
Literally 90% of bloodborne's string shit went past my head for the exact same reason though.
Compare that to how strings and vocals are used within this piece and it helps to create both a sense of familiarity with the boss, and that defined sense of uniqueness.
If anything, DaS3 does that the best with it's music out of any boss since demons souls, an instilled sense of musical direction that fits the bosses atmospherically, but also puts a strong effort in making the themes sound very distinct from every other single one within the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
Cutest girl?
>>337748927
>ds3 bossfight is boring than BB
>90% of the bosses are just variance of big black beast/monster with boring arena.
>>337750542
>Literally nothing in BB comes close to the grandiose, mystical, wondrous and even eldritch feeling you get when you first walk into ash lake (which is pretty funny considering what bloodborne was trying to go for with it's influences), the contrast, the monolithic environment, the calm water, the absolute alien and isolated it feeling it has from the rest of the world, all whilst having a memorable, and haunting choir voice, the large gaps in particular between the vocals at the beginning really helps to emphasise both the scale and the mythic feeling that develops as you walk down from the great hollow.
You're overplaying Ash Lake's ost. Also:
Ludwig's both ost's, cleric beast's ost, upper cathedral ward, earlier Yahar'gul, Micolash's theme, Wet Nurse's theme, laurence's ost, gherman's theme are all unique from each other and memorable.
Dark Souls' only memorable tracks were Firelink, O&S, Ash lake, Sif, and Gwyn. The ither 80% of the tracks are all interchangable choir chanting.
>>337750889
>pretending anyone cares about DaS3 anymore
Come on now, let the big boys talk. Only DeS, DaS and BB matter. 2 and 3 are like the matrix sequels, best left ignored.
>>337750889
das3 music is too busy, if it aint humable
it aint memorable.
>>337725270
I agree. It feels like a Castlevania style level to me, I wish there was more to do there.
>>337750856
>The pillars are never explained
>Just thought that perhaps the other pillars have other workshops at the top for all the various Hunters
>>337750856
The pillars in particular felt like a retread of ash lake's theme the first time I saw it, as I played that grew into a more oppressive feeling as they loom over the skybox.
Still, it's impact within the game didn't feel anywhere near as pronounced as ash lake, as the distinct low chanting felt unique from anything else in the game, the location being an actual part of the game itself helped to imbue that defining sense of absolute oddness, after all, after climbing down the great hollow, the last thing I expected was ash lake.
Whereas in Hunters dream, the immediate vicinity, the yard like area you are in didn't really facilitate a similar reaction, it was certainly an interesting design choice nonetheless.
>>337751217
>pillars
>>337751082
fuckoff
>>337751105
Bloodborne in general is like a love letter to Castlevania, it even has a whip, two of them in fact.
>>337750889
DS3 music is so great.
The only songs i liked from BB is Vicar/First boss one and Gehrman.
>>337751365
look at poll, das3 falling fast
>>337751072
>90% of the bosses are just variance of big black beast/monster with boring arena.
Factually wrong. Bloodborne has an almost equal amout of Beast, Human, and eldritch horrror bosses.
>>337751090
>if it aint hummable it ain't memorable
This this this
I can hum you 90% of bloodborne's songs because they all have a main melody yet Dark Souls 3's songs are al mostly background noise and chants, no personality.
>>337751090
The exact same argument can be applied to Bloodborne apart from the music box theme, I really don't see your point here.
>>337751073
I really don't see how I am.
Firelink, Moonnlight butterfly/gwyndolin, character creation, sif, O+S, ash lake, sif, gwyn, the music upon entering gwnyevere's room, nito's theme, four kings theme, pinwheel's theme, seath's theme, gaping dragon and iron golem's theme are all heavily distinct from one another.
I noted that you mentioned laurence and cleric beasts theme, which to me sounded like a rehash.
>>337723126
I'm playing Bloodborne now. It's my first Dank Souls game. I beat Gascoigne earlier. Have I advanced from being a casual yet?
>>337751510
>caring about /v/ poll
>even then DES still in second bottom
fuckoff with your nostalgiafag
>>337751587
>can hum 90% of bloodbornes music
wow, because to me, it all sounds like stock horror movie shit apart from a few tracks like ebrietas and gehrman.
>>337751217
> the location being an actual part of the game itself helped to imbue that defining sense of absolute oddness, after all, after climbing down the great hollow, the last thing I expected was ash lake.
But that happens with the entire game of Bloodborne. The whole world is like that.
You always see the layers of nightmares above and below you, every skybox you see from below is actually an ocean you see from above.
See vid below if you didn't know it already (@5m 17s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH2-texH34o&t=5m17s
>>337751720
Considering you've gotten farther than most people who played the game, yeah.
>>337751796
Sounds like you're finally starting to understand that people have different tastes and your criticism is not objective, good job.
>>337751639
>I noted that you mentioned laurence and cleric beasts theme, which to me sounded like a rehash.
Ok, now I know you haven't even listened to bloodborne's ost.
>>337751738
>nostalgiafag
these games are not even that old and all still have online up and running.
>caring about /v/ poll
you must seeing on how butt blasted you are
Dark Souls 2 and 3 - out of the question, 2 is just plain bad and 3 is just a copy of 1, except now it's linear as fuck and even easier even with the reduced amount of Estus
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls and pretty much even, but I think Bloodborne is a mile above both of them, both for gameplay and atmosphere.ok Demon's Souls does have some great atmosphere, but sill
>>337751587
>that Ludwig
>>337751915
It took me a while, not going to lie. I feel like I understand it now though, even though it's still a very tough game.
>>337751587
yet you can barely extinguish between Rom, Paarl, cleric beast, amygdala, one reborn, and shit i dont even remember almost all the bosses are just huge black creatures with very little varying moveset other than aggressive claw attack.
>>337752105
Things click eventually, it just takes some getting used to.
>>337751639
>The exact same argument can be applied to Bloodborne apart from the music box theme, I really don't see your point here.
>>337751796
>wow, because to me, it all sounds like stock horror movie shit apart from a few tracks like ebrietas and gehrman.
I can hum you most bloodborne songs right now through soundcloud right bow and people would be able to tell which song is wich.
Can you do the same with at leat half the songs in Dark Souls?
>>337751639
>I noted that you mentioned laurence and cleric beasts theme, which to me sounded like a rehash.
heh , nigga is basically the same fight. You didn't played the game.
Also i think BB without dlc is that great. Some bosses are boring and not memorable.
In DS3 the majority of bosses fell like a pvp battle, a honorable battle and i fucking love that. Just like enjoy gascoigne , logarius and gherman. I didn't care about the other bosses to be honest.
>>337751812
The only part where that had a noticeable impact though was fishing hamlet, as the city being underwater was visible and very apparent.
It doesn't really add a layer of effect to the area unless you really scrutinise it.
>>337751952
>you must seeing on how butt blasted you are
are you fucking retard or what?
>>337751812
>that picture
Isn't hunter's dream in a separate dinension from the other 3?
>>337752114
>almost all the bosses
Only five.
>>337752338
>being this mad
>>337752252
*is not that great.
>>337734772
>>337735969
Blighttown and Sens' Fortress is the only reason I'm not going to play DS1 again. It was good but it was extremely painful.
>>337752226
>that image
Wait, really?
I cannot believe this console war is still going on, being idort is suffering.
>>337751945
Seriously though, it does.
I don't find anything special about laurence's theme.
It certainly had the more "religious authoritarian" vibe going for it with the organ presence, but it still felt like it was retreading ultimately the cleric beasts theme and didn't do enough to differentiate it.
As a boss, Laurence was so utterly shit, that it didn't help give the theme any weight any way.
Why do people think dark souls 1 was so good? Half the game was unfinished, the online was janky, and most of the bosses and areas suck total ass by modern standards
I can hardly see why anyone would rank it above demons souls
>>337752226
Meant to specify Dark Souls 3 at the end, not dark souls 1
>>337752582
What's wrong with Laurence?
>>337752252
I know he's in some respects the same fight, but this isn't about whether the fight are similar, this conversation was discussing whether the music can truly be called "unique" to describing the bosses.
>>337752585
Because it's the first one they played.
>>337752452
No, dumbass.
>>337752114
And all humanoid bosses have a stab or swipe attack
I don't get the argument of repetition between BB's beast bosses. They are just as varied compared to similarly sized humanoid bosses in DaS games
Poison dog is a vastly different fight from Screamy "self-heal x8" dog, for instance
Even though they both use claw attacks, the patterns and velocity and range and coverage are all different. Just like A humanoid boss with a sword and another one with a spear both have jabs and swipes but they feel different
>>337752350
explained in the video. There's a direct interaction between fishing hamlet and hunter's nightmare when a slug-woman falls from the sky in front of you (clrealy fell from fishing hamlet into H. Night.)
>>337752273
>It doesn't really add a layer of effect to the area unless you really scrutinise it.
Neither does ash lake
>>337752814
music is subjective mate
both games have freat music but they get repetitive quick.
This is why i can't see BB or ds3 winning for best soundtrack.
>>337752379
>implying the Great One and beast monster have so much different design other thats not monotone black shade.
>>337752435
blighttown can be almost entirely skipped (as in, no shantytown part with all the falls) with master key or by running through the black night exit in the valley of drakes. I generally tend to take the shortcutbecause I'm terrified of the depths.
Sen's fortress is annoying but goes by really quickly once you know enough to rush through it without having to check every corner, it's only got like, 3 floors before you reach the outside bonfire and black dick tarkus can rape the boss for you
If anything is a detriment to replaying DaS it's the triple-whammy of Seath's Archives/Cave, Nito's spooky slides and fucking around in new londo
>>337753050
That's exactly what I'm implying.
>>337752114
>shit i dont even remember almost all the bosses are just huge black creatures with very little varying moveset other than aggressive claw attack.
See:>>337751587
The game clearly balances the the humanoid, beast, and lovecraftian bosses. You just have a goldfish short term memory that doesn't catch anything that doesn't have chanting in it.
>>337728554
16...14....
for fuck sake, is there no games for elders anymore, are we really totally cut out..?
Well that settles it, DaS1 is officially the best. You literally cannot refute this.
>>337752875
O shit sorry, I thought for a second that Hunter's nightmare said Hunter's dream.
Well that settles it, Call of Duty is officially the best video game franchise. You literally cannot refute this.
>>337752413
>>337752554
??yes i was mad because you fuckin faggot ass implying that i was mad for caring about /v/ poll in the first place.
Before you said im a fromdrone miyazaki pkek shill this is my rank
BB>DS3>=DS1>DS2>des(never played and from the look of it des doesnt exactly aged well)
>>337753264
Actually, to get an accurate result you multiply Demon's Souls and Bloodborne's votes by 3 since they have 3 times less exposure than the Dark Souls games.
>>337752226
No, but I can certainly do more than Bloodborne, as trying to utter music that sounds like it could be played while creeping up on people while they are sleeping, or played behind tom cruise while he is running down a wall in respect to the more generic action filler film music like gascoigne is both intensely difficult in a lot of respects, and also incredibly boring.
Here are the tracks I can actually think about in my head when I try hard to think about Bloodborne's music, keep in my mind I played through Bloodborne one month ago and finished dark souls 2 pve two weeks ago.
Mergo's Wet Nurse
Ebrietas
Blood Starved Beast
Cleric Beast
Ludwig
Orphan of Kos
And Dark Souls 3?
Nameless King
Pontiff Sulayvahn
Oceiros
Champion Gundyr
Lothric Lorian
Soul of Cinder
Abyss Watchers
Deacons of the Deep
Dragonslayer armour
Dancer of the boreal valley
Aldrich
Soul of Cinder
I know what you will be saying "where's gehrman?" I honestly can't remember how the music for that fight goes as it just sounds like heavily textured strings, albeit very well composed strings.
>>337753264
>>337753538
>Bloodborne just won the /v/'s vote for best Souls game, we "can't refute this"
I guess we can truly say Bloodborne is Miyazaki's magnum dongus
>>337753538
http://www.gamemag.pw/pc/Games/dark-souls-3-tops-uk-retail-charts.a/uk-sales-chart-dark-souls-3-sets-new-franchise-record-sells-71-of-copies-on-ps4.html
>>337729445
Blighttown is the best level of the series though.
>autists arguing game music like its a factor into a good game
Am I the only person who plays Video games in a chat and have all game volume turned to zero?
Classic /v/
>>337753110
so by your logic a boss is memorable depend on whether or not you can hum the soundtrack? fuckin fantastic m8.
>>337752435
for you
but for me those are two of the highlights of the whole series.
one day I'll make a big blog post about why ds1 ended up being my favorite, even though demons and 3 are still good in my eyes. dark souls 2 has some good content inside of it, but honestly the movement, camera controls, animations, and difficulty curve at the start make it unplayable for me. dark souls 3 seems like the least inspired game out of them all. which says a lot after dark souls 2. but it was made much more intelligently to serve long time fans. demons souls is honestly harder to go back to than dark souls but theres cool traits that were never repeated, and would never be made if demons was made after dark souls. bloodborne is really neat. if you include it its up there with ds1 as my favorite. but man even just by judging half the game ds1's progression and world design were top fucking notch. one of the best levels in the series history is hidden and completely optional in that game. I'm praying for a ds rerelease at 60fps, with s possible redesign for the demon ruins and BoC. also they could actually fucking finish the raw upgrade path thatd be nice.
>>337723126
>that poll
just like my idea
DS>DS3>BB>Demon>No canon shit
How the fuck is BB better than DS. Seriously try to justify it to me.
>>337752729
His entire fight is based around "oh shit we've run out of development time, let's try as hard as we can to make a boss who players might see as good despite putting little effort in.
>visually half the fight is effectively a reskin with some fire effects, the second half doesn't really come that far to fixing this problem
>his difficulty is largely based around his ridiculous health pool, although this is an ongoing theme with bb's bosses
>from phase 2 onwards they give him a very tedious aoe on 90% of his attacks, which is both not really well designed for his moveset, which focussed on a lot of small swipes when you are up close, and adds to the already high questionable damage rates
>his third phase can go two ways
>one, you get him into an easy chain of baiting his swipe attack, making him incredibly easy
>two, you fuck it up by not dodging the aoe's or getting stuck in a corner, and have to dodge his questionably high damaging and ridiculous swiping attacks
Just one of the least satisfying bosses in Bloodborne, which is aggravated by the fact that fundamentally, he's more tedious than challenging, and deaths really only result from wonky aoe's.
What's even worse is the contrast between him and the other bosses in the dlc, I'd honestly call him one of the worst fights in the series, it's mindless how they gave such an important character so little focus.
>>337754075
Better in every way except quantitatively
I really dont care for the opinion of /v/, youre all retarded anyway
SOTFS > DS3 > DES > DS1 > BB
Ivory King > Old iron king > Old hunters > Sunken king > Artorias of the Abyss
Anyone who does not agree with this is admitting they have shit taste
>>337723713
Mediocre at best.
>>337754176
I guess it's opposite day.
>>337754176
this is the most 4channy dark souls post ever, grats.
>>337754075
It's good from beginning to end.
>>337753828
that makes you the autist, anon
>>337751380
Yeah. And the whole vampire lair vibe I get makes it even better. I would have liked to explore Cainhurst in its prime before the vilebloods got wiped out.
>>337753558
>No, but I can certainly do more than Bloodborne, as trying to utter music that sounds like it could be played while creeping up on people while they are sleeping, or played behind tom cruise while he is running down a wall in respect to the more generic action filler film music like gascoigne is both intensely difficult in a lot of respects, and also incredibly boring.
You generalizing Bloodborne's ost as generic b-horror movie tier cliche songs is like me generalizing Dark Souls 3's song as generic chanting a bunch of choir people came up with while having sex on the recording studio.
You clearly have not exposed yourself to Bloodborne's ost either because of uninterest or because you haven't played enough of it, but it has way more memorable songs than the ones you list.
In contrast, most of the songs you listed from Dark Souls 3 could be interchanged with one another and no one would notice.
>>337754075
It has one less bed of chaos
>>337754163
i rather take super dynamic fight against knight in armour bosses in ds3 rather than bloated HP of bloodborne monster bosses that makes everything more tedious.
>>337754346
I dont think you know what autism is.
>>337754176
>Artys DLC is Last.
>Old Hunters DLC Third Place
>BB Last Place.
Explain why Bloodborne is last. When Demon Souls has aged pretty Badly. And DAS2 was clunky as shit.
Explain
>>337727146
>>Arguably the best music
All the Souls games have extremely forgettable music.
>>337754470
And replaced it with Ayyyliens
>>337753851
>so by your logic a boss is memorable depend on whether or not you can hum the soundtrack? fuckin fantastic m8.
We're arguing music here. Learn to read you illiterate swine
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>>337754474
>bloated HP
Sounds just like Dark Souls 3.
>>337753110
Discounting the dlc bosses we have:
Lovecraft:
Moon Presence - effectively a beast boss
Rom - shit
celestial emmisary - large humanoid
mergo's wet nurse - large humanoid
one reborn - literal shit
amygdala - humanoid in essence
ebrietas
Beasts -
cleric beast - humanoid
amelia - beast
blood starved beast - beast
paarl - beast
humanoids:
gascoigne
micolash
shadows
gehrman
logarius
Seems that BB's pretty humanoid centric to be honest
>>337754601
At least the ayy team fight is funny if you bring shaman bone blades
>>337754757
>humanoid in essence
Don't you think you're trying a little too hard?
>>337754757
>Amygdala
>humanoid
OK Kid
We all know Demon's Souls has the best ost and nothing has even come close to touching it t b h
>People actually voting for DS3
It's "Why Aren't You Just Playing Dark Souls 1: The Game"
>>337755040
Because it's the same game but not dead.
>>337754704
i fuckin wish they have so BBfag can shut the fuck up about how most of ds3 bosses are glasscannon compared to their overbloat HP bosses.
>>337754757
>Discounting the dlc bosses we have:
>Discounting a big percentage of the gamewe have:
Why do people always do this? Is like if we count the DLC their whole point goes out the window
>famygdala
>humanoid
>giant ass 6 armed alien that shoots lasers and that you gotta attack it's weak points to kill is now a humanoid boss in essence comparable with a fight like Father Gasoline
wew
>>337755212
>overbloat HP bosses
Sounds like you just have shit gems honestly.
>>337723713
its a very solid game and holds up well amongst the other installments, the DLC however will most likely allow DS3 to surpass the others
>>337755040
>nostalgiafag.
>>337754964
>AHHHH AHHHH HAAA HAAA the ost
>best ost
Lmao
Hey, I'm the guy who just posted that big post saying I thought dark souls 2 was unplayable. what I dont get though, is why so few fucking spells made it into 3 from that game. was magic seriously an afterthought for them?
>>337754574
Demon Souls has aged the best. Its still playable if you arent some cynical peice of shit.
Bloodborne is last (Not including DLC in any of these arguements) because the playstyle is shit, I hate the R1 spam you can kill most bosses with. The bosses are forgettable for the most part and the size of the game depends mostly on some sidegame chalice dungeons. Couple that with the fact you get like 10 weapons and 10 armor sets, which makes the game boring to replay in my eyes.
I dont get the DS2 is clunky meme. I found DS1 movement way clunkier. The only knock on DS2 I have is the level design was by far the worst, but it had the most relevant covenants and PVP, a good size of Weapons and armor
>but muh humanoid bosses
Even in the lore, humanoids would be most of whats left, as the demons and dragons are supposed to be extinct.
>>337755305
To be fair, I thought this too. Until I discovered the magic of beast blood pellets.
DaS>DaS3>DaS2>BB>DeS
DeS would be better than BB but it's ugly as fuck.
>>337754440
Honestly though, really,
In Bloodborne's tracks there's far too much use on the horror essence, the dissonant and high cutting strings to make them sound hummable.
I also find it especially odd that people complain about mindless chanting in dark souls when BB does it 10x worse with the tracks that have it, one reborn's theme in particular has such an overuse of chanting that it's hard to tell if the fight even has a defining central theme.
Perhaps it's just the method of production, but I found that apart from these two tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sr349qR9s8
Nothing stood out in a good way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvUmL8uaE48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyevcAnbb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihcP_GduOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BncJ1yX-BgQ
>>337755347
So you're saying that guy is the nostalgiafag and not Miyazaki when he was crafting nearly every level and NPC in Dark Souls 3?
>>337755379
legit better than das2 or 3
>>337755212
BB bosses have higher hp because they have exploitable weaknesses that encourage you to be aggressive and exploit so you can deal more damage
A large portion of them have breakable limbs or visceral openings that make the fights more dynamic
Yall niggas never even played monster hunter
>>337755283
>stands on two legs in an upright position when they clearly could have made the boss much more imposing in both a darkened arena and spider like stance
>has arms and a weakpoint head, a back etc.
It deserves to be called humanoid after all the shit they could have easily done with it, what a fucking waste of a boss.
>>337754964
DeS has the worst music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaZWK0RaPFk [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIAQY2xwXPc&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQw1rPMn95E&index=3&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OefcLt1NoZk&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7T05Lm9mjw&index=7&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTmdkMRaPUE&index=8&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTT4di20FtU&index=9&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk
(crash bandicoot music lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMphk_j27yw&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjotdhdBLM&list=RDvaZWK0RaPFk&index=13
Sure there are some great tracks like maiden astraea and false king, but the majority of it sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pA8VzdpDnU
DaS3 has the best by the way
>>337727721
the music makes you think there is actually a decent or coherent story to back it up
but, nope, the story is incoherent shite
>>337754474
>>337754704
>>337755212
>>337755730
the fuck you are talking about?
The only bosses with a lot of HP are Nameless and Macarroni face.
Stop beign shitty at videogames anons.
>>337755773
t. someone who never did defiled amygdala
>difficulty
DS3>BB>>>>DS2>DS1>DeS
>lore
>DS1>DeS>BB>DS2>DS3
>fun
BB>DS1>DeS>DS3>DS2
however, i can totally understand not liking BB if you prefer a playstyle that isnt the one BB forces on you
>>337754474
>games lore is about people turning into super strong beasts.
>boss fights are tedious too much health. I cant r1 estoc spam them to death.
Bloodborne Early Game is tedious. Fail a boss fight and your stuck farming Bloodvials off bodies that give shit money for 20 minutes before you can have a chance at winning. But After Vicar Amelia the game turns into a 10/10.
But i bet your probably someone who couldnt beat Vicar Amelia. 50 percent who bought bloodborne never did. Thats of course assuming you even bought it.
>>337755543
ds3 is a direct sequel to ds1 so any references toward it is understandable. there are few blatant fanservice toward des and i dont like that but the original content is more than enough to justifiy the importance of ds3 anyway.
>>337756040
>defiled amygdala
>>337756062
>>difficulty
>DS3>BB
I can respect your other opinions but come on, half the bosses were des-tier gimmick retard-fests with the only semblance of difficulty coming from memeless king
>>337723126
Roll roll attack
>>337755970
>macaroni face
who?
>>337756126
In five playthroughs I never ran out of blood vials.
>>337756062
>difficulty
>DS3 anything but dead fucking last
This has to be a joke.
>>337755523
>those songs
It's like you chose to ignore the more memorable ost's save for Gherman's like:
https://youtu.be/SLw6a8P39us
https://youtu.be/ALbVEmzY5S4
https://youtu.be/ICSk8-pJkX8
https://youtu.be/ZBMhwWN_088
https://youtu.be/4uKdU19drsw
I'll give you the argument that Bloodborne is heavily focused on horror theme in it's music, but don't downplay it like it doesn't do it well.
>>337756062
>lore ds3 at the bottom
fuck no
>>337755569
Any soundtrack is better than Dark Souls 2 and 3 anon
>>337756062
>3 the hardest
You fucking what
>>337756257
pic related
>>337756330
and you think other games are more hard?
BB is piss easy because of the dash.
The fact that even the name ''Soulsborne'' triggers some fat kids is fucking unbearable.
>>337755730
Sorry, but there is little justification for laurence, orphan of kos, or rom having large health pools in particular.
BB just gave bosses large health pools and then said fuck it, after a while in development, they realised everyone would just be spamming r1 and the fights would be over with really fast.
It makes the fights less satisfying to land hits in my opinion, and certainly less strategic.
I don't get why in BB and DaS3, hitting a boss a certain amount of times in a short time period means that you can suddenly land an uber hit on them while they just sit there like a retard.
At least in monster hunter, you had to actually feel like you were tripping the monster up, reducing it's stamina over a long period of time, usually involving a enraged segment.
There is certainly a sense of satisfaction landing the blows, but the bloated health pool removes that, rather, and especially with BB's potential with it's hyper aggressive enemies, I would have liked all the enemies and bosses to behave like blood starved beast and become super enraged, rather than just a few of them.
>>337756126
thats funny considering after amelia they have massive drop in quality in term of bosses.
>>337756491
You clearly don't understand how bosses react to attacks and dashes if you think it's exactly like dark souls 3 rolls with more iframes
>>337756223
i dunno, i just got annihilated on pontiff, dancer, nameless king, etc. Yeah the early bosses are cakewalks, as is yorhm.
numerous regular mobs are brutally annoying
The only things in BB that compared to the late game DS3 bosses for me would be ghermain, ludwig, lawrence, and orphan. otherwise i was dying in 3 way more
>>337756491
The dash doesn't somehow make fights like the Orphan a walk in the park.
>>337756363
>guys remember that thing from the previous game? Well guess what, IT'S BACK ;) and it has no relevance to the story but you loved it the last time, right?
>>337755773
Does it play like a humanoid tho?
Could you call it a humanoid boss that deserves to be categorized with other bosses like Maria or Gherman or Gascoine? Because Amygdala is a towering figure that doesn't move much, like other beastt and Eldritch bosses.
If you want to call amygdala a humanoid boss then we also have to call Amelia and Cleric beast humanoid bosses since the stand on two legs.
>>337755429
You never played BloodBorne have you? You prolly watched a livestreamer and went "looks like R1 Spamming"
You R1 Spam youll die. Wont even get past Papa G. Rally system helps reduce the bonfire replenishing estsus flask system not replace it. The games harder then the other souls games.
And the bosses are forgetable?
What the fuck are you on about.
I remeber all the Bloodborne Bosses. Each of them was different and interesting. None of them were gimmick bosses like the Tree, Wolnir, Yhorm, and the Acient Wyvern Bosses.
5 bosses out of 19 were fucking gimmicks in DS3.
>>337756363
ds3 is a pander fest at best, in the coming months ull see fans dropping it left and right.
>>337756223
>half the bosses were des-tier gimmick retard-fests
there are like 4 gimmick bosses out of 19
>>337756330
Whats harder then? DeS? Nope. DaS1? Only Orstein and Smough were hard and they are not nearly as hard as you remember. DaS2? Nope. BB? Only the things in the very last chalice dungeons were of any difficulty but most of them were just rehashed bosses from the base game that have more health and dish out more damage. Everything in the main story of BB is easy mostly because of parrying being stupidly easy to do on certain bosses.
>>337756638
really?
because i platinum the name in less than a week.
The dash is so fucking broken that is not even funny.
Take Lothrian battle , that is basically how bloodborne is , you can dash through everything.
>>337756349
I already mentioned in the conversation chain I could recall mergo's theme, not that I particularly enjoyed it.
Ludwig's first phase doesn't stand out to me at all, and micolash's while instantly noticeable, doesn't sound memorable at all.
Gascoigne's I don't find particularly memorable either, I don't really understand the fandom behind it, more than anything in BB it sounds like it could be used in a generic action thriller film.
>>337724459
Valley of Defilement
DeS>BB>Dks>DkS2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DKs3
>>337756223
The only thing in BB that was on the level of twin princes, soul of cinder, nameless king, pontiff sulayvahn and champion gundyr was ludwig, orphan I found about as difficult, if slightly less than nameless king.
The defiled chalice is a different ball game, but it's almost unfair to compare.
>>337726041
gwyn
gehrman
Burnt ivory king
guess i'm a sucker for final sort of bosses
Bed of chaos
Royal rat vanguard
old iron king
>>337756739
>>337756789
>I didn't bother to do any sort of research on the lore of DaS3 but I recognized a few things from DaS1 so that must mean its all just a pander-fest
I hope sometime in the future when all this butthurt wars end from software will release bloodborne on pc and we can finally rejoice again.Ending this pointless le never ever xDDDD le reddit masterace xDDDD war.
>>337757241
Please tell me how Solaire and Lautrec are relevant to the story, because I found their sets and I can't find any connection.
>>337756739
>they rehashed Maiden Astrea and her bodyguard, Siegmeyer, and Andre
>they rehashed the nexus
>they rehashed the whole "you find the real version of your hub world" from bloodborne except now you find three different fucking versions
>they rehashed the whole "sky and moon changes after beating a boss and everything is going ape shit" from bloodborne
>they rehashed the flying demons picking you up the the next area for the third time
>they rehashed Ornstein for the third time
>they rehashed the maiden in black for the third time (fourth if you count Doll)
>they rehashed crestfallen warrior for the fourth time
>they rehashed patches for the fifth fucking time
Jesus Christ From, what the fuck happened to your creativity?
>>337757119
>but it's almost unfair to compare
if you move goals posts, sure
>it's a boss that spams projectiles and teleports to the other side of the room when you get close
>it's a gimmick boss that becomes a chore on subsequent playthroughs
>it's a generic humanoid knight boss
Das3 was such a disappointment
>>337756715
The dash actually makes the game harder cause you have less I frames when rolling. But i balances it out with attacking quicker.
Im done talking in Souls Threads its either retards who never played one of the games they are dissing or never beat said game cause they gave up.
Every Souls Game is a good game if you stick with it and try to play it.
Bloodborne is harder then them all but thats besides the point it wasnt the worlds hardest game.
>>337756940
>more than anything in BB it sounds like it could be used in a generic action thriller film.
And Dark Souls 1-3 sound like they could be used in a. "Generic ah ah oh oh chanting" movie :^)
>>337757358
You can't outsmart an onion
>>337731590
If you enjoy tedious as fuck and slow gameplay, sure Das 2 is fine. It's a chore to play though, and not nearly as immersive as Das 1 is on every other level.
>>337756789
>>337756739
>le anor londo is in the game that means nothing is new in the game at all, ever!
>amicoolyet guys?
What's interesting is that DS3 actually has the most cohesive and satisfying plot/story/lore combination progression during the playtime out of any of the games.
The lords of cinder being such central and active characters as you play, it feels so much more living than any other dark souls game, like you are engaging with a world that hasn't been dead for centuries.
But I guess because anor londo is in the game, that means it has no lore.
It's funny because every single fucking game, it's "this game has literally no fucking lore lol, what the fuck was miyazaki thinking", dark souls 1, 2, bb and 3.
But then your chucklefuck youtube heros come and make some large sweeping statements about something that was fucking obvious and "woah this game has tons of shit I was too retarded to ever think about"
>>337755910
Dark Souls 3 has the worst soundtrack of the series. Seriously I generally disdain the Dark Souls series ost, it's so hollywood-ish, generic, trying to sound epic. Demon's Souls is subtle and the themes fit perfectly for every boss. Dark Souls should have gone back to chamber music.
>>337757358
sky and moon could technically be from dks1 after gwynever
>>337757340
I honestly wouldn't even be mad. I wanna know what's hidden in those file that they didn't use for the final game.
>>337756630
Seriously, I feel Bloodborne bosses shit the bed pretty hard later on.
>Witch of Hemwick
>Amygdala
>Rom
>One Reborn
>Micolash
>Mergo
>Celestial Emissary
Paarl can also be ruined if you don't get kidnapped and fight early on, you'll probably end up accidentally stun locking it as it powers up later without even knowing what you're doing.
All of the Soulsborne games have their share of shit bosses but it hits me the most in Bloodborne because you fight a lot of these back to back and on top of that its the end of the game which is where you expect them to go all out. I thought Dark Souls 3 did a much better job in this department.Even though until DS3 gets DLC I definitely like Bloodborne better
>>337757381
>it's a beast boss that uses shitty claw attacks again and again
>it's a fight which is a generic npc fight
>it's micolash, one reborn, wet nurse, witches of hemwick, celestial emissary, shadows, and moon presence
BB was such a disappointment
Can we just all agree that Dragon's Dogma is superior?
>people are still this salty they can't play BB
Let it go for the love of god.
>>337757753
>generic
This word is slowly obtaining the meme status.
>>337729510
Bloodborne still winning despite the smaller playerbase. Eat shit
>>337757340
>>337757671
It's because of these console wars cucks that soulsborne fans are so fucking hated. I would never be mad if bloodborne was released on pc.
>>337757753
You sound frustrated
>it's a fight which is a generic npc fight
What's that even supposed to mean, quest NPCs are significantly harder to kill without exploits than almost every boss in the game
>>337755910
Funny. I see a bunch of songs that sound mostly different and aren't just shitty mall orchestra blaring with latin chanting in the background like almost all of Dark Souls 2 and 3's soundtracks.
I'd rather have midi shit with fake instruments over ANOTHER fucking overly busy orchestral piece with le men women choir chanting in the background.
>>337757547
>delusional cUck post
glad the game is sinking fast, ull blow away like dirt in the coming months.
bye bye
>>337757817
never ever senpai
>>337757990
Some of the Dark Souls themes don't even sound like music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHMa5zzx6TY
>>337757753
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/685616464229838850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
>>337757340
It wouldn't change shit. They would still be demanding time stamps and shouting down all criticism with "you haven't even played it"
>>337757547
>t DS3 actually has the most cohesive and satisfying plot/story/lore
How the fuck can you even have this opinion
The lore is terribly mashed together for the sake of das1 fanservice and a number of things are still unexplained (pilgrim butterflies come to mind), likely cut from the game for the sake of DLC
Even das2 had a better overall story
>>337758131
Merciless
>>337757753
>it's a beast boss that uses shitty claw attacks again and again
>it's a boss that uses sword attacks again and again
>it's a boss that attacks you
Like seriously From, get creative. This is the fifth game you make where enemies attack you with their weapons.
>>337757507
>Bloodborne is harder
ebbin meme. There are not objective harder game. The point is how you play the game. Defensive gamers can be in trouble on BB, but offensive? Can complete the game in one night.
>he dash actually makes the game harder cause you have less I frames
again , false
I can dash to the meteor Rom attack.
Take Hot dog for example.
Defensive players suffer a lot with this boss , me? i can dash throught the flames and get free hits.
>>337756786
Yes Ive played BB. Its far more R1 Aggression than any other FROM game. Its boring.
I can name like 5 Bosses from Bloodborne and I have the platinum for it. I have to go look at trophies just to remember who they are.
Tree and Wolnir werent that gimmicky, especially when you have bosses like Moon precense and the Cage head guy, who were pretty gimmicky, but I never even once said DS3 gimmick bosses were okay. I dont like Yhorm or Ancient Wyvren, but the non gimmick bosses were by far the best in the series.
>>337757593
>>337757990
Sorry, but you just couldn't be more wrong.
Listen to deacons of the deep, dancer of the boreal valley, vordt, dragonslayer armour, nameless king, old demon king, wolnir, crystal sage, twin princes, champion gundyr and aldrich and tell me how they fit your definition.
>>337758126
I'm getting PTSD from those fucked up hitboxes
Fuck that boss
>>337758152
Yes it would. As the saltiness would decrease and alot more people would enjoy the game and people saying ''you haven't played it'' would be obvious memers.
>>337758263
Are you trying to impress me?
>>337758245
Fuck that generators cool
>>337757817
>people have different opinions
>hur they are pc guys that didn't played the game
BB kids everyone.
>>337758165
The pilgrim butterflies are the abyss worshippers from londor, pontiff sulayvahn grows tree wings as a result of having been influenced under the abyss corrupted profane flame.
The londor pilgrims visibly have tree branches coming out of them, and there are tree hollows scattered around high wall.
Unfortunately, you have been too retarded to make the connection.
The lords all have little interconnected sub plots and details and their actions taking place during your own play time makes it all the better.
You simply fail to realise this because no high tier youtube has fed it to you like fucking fed farm animals.
>>337758563
If you rate BB lower than DaS2, it's no longer an opinion. It's shitposting. Straight up shitposting.
>>337758585
Nice cuh-razy fan theory but it still hasn't been explained in-game or fleshed out, disproving your argument about it being cohesive
>>337758535
I am trying to tell you there's no "hardest" souls.
Also refuting that BB is hard meme.
And dash indeed is broken.
>>337758563
When you shitpost like that and add 13-year-old xbox live comments with your posts, yes it's extremely obvious you're just getting sour grapes
>>337750542
Its a viedo game not a drug.
And most inportantly nothing lore wise beats the Old Hunters.
The Streets flooded with Blood. The crimes the Old Hunters commited to keep the beat scourge at bay. and the First Church hunter Ludwig boss room is filled with bodies giving him a serial killer kill count despite trying to be a good man who wanted clean and honest hunters.
And then Fishing Hamlet. An area where the Church pillaged for experimation to create gods. And caused great misfortune to those unlucky to be there.
Cainhurst Castle - An area that belonged to rival faction that stole the blood techinques of Healing Church. An area where the women were raped and murdered their throats sliced, alongside the peasants and the spirits continue to wail and cry and attempt to defend themselves from you despite being armed with slightly more then an ceremonial dagger.
A lot of Bloodborne areas have great tones that out do the other Souls games.
Your just to stubborn to admit it.
>>337758695
But why you take the bait?
That DSII/dlc post is just nonsence.
>>337758836
new DLC area confirmed
>>337758563
>Rates DaS2 better than BB
>Expects not to be treated like a saltcuck
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