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>shadow warrior
>>337708670
Tbh shadow warrior even tho I like all 3
>>337708670
shadow warrior
>>337708670
Doom
Shoomenstein: The New Warrior
Fug famala, that's tough. I'll pick Shadow warrior though because it requires some skill.
>>337708670
D44M
new wolf is fucking garbage, and Shadow Warrior is decent
>>337708670
wolfenstein
>>337708913
lol'd
but hey I know you need to feed kids and shit. gl with sales bro
>>337708670
TNO
good production quality all around
haven't played Doom yet, though, and it seemed decent
>>337708670
Shadow Warrior easily.
The sequel looks like it will wipe the floor with D44M.
>>337708670
doom obviously.
I loved shadow warrior but I enjoyed nuDoom much more.
TNO has a lot of gay cutscenes and sneaking around.
is wolfenstein good?
I actually prefer DOOM the most. Wolfenstein is a close second, but I feel like ultimately a shooter game should be focusing on shooting, and Wolfenstein oftentimes gets lost trying to create some sort of narrative. DOOM, on the other hand, may as well not even have a story as it were, since the plot is so basic and the character interactions are extremely limited. It's just an orgy of violence from minute one to the very end.
I really have no idea why Shadow Warrior is on this list.
>>337709280
Shooting is good, but there's an insane amount of padding.
Also
>MAGIC JEW CONCRETE
>>337709280
too much story
>>337708670
Wolfenstein: DooM Warrior
>>337709280
The Old Blood is better than the main game.
>>337709280
It's pretty decent
People like to overrate it for some reason. It's in the same vain as Singularity when it comes to gameplay: relatively fast shooter that prioritizes the clever use of level geometry to outsmart your opponents.
G...g..guys, what about me?
>>337708670
>what kind of shit do you like, senpai, solid and hard, creamy with chunks or mousse au shitolat?
>>337709590
It's ok bra I still love u
>>337709043
You haven't played in it
Wolf is probably the worse of teh bunch
>>337709280
No, it has couple good guns but everything else is bad. DLC is even worse.
>>337709659
Care to share your patrician tastes? I won't even reply to you and say such and such are horrible, I'm just genuinly curious.
Hopefully you will only list shooters with the SP in mind.
D44M
Shadow warrior had nice katana gameplay but the guns were awful
TNO made the nazis look like the bad guys.
>>337708670
Shadow warrior hands down.
>Doom a shit, bland as fuck and repetitive. Grafix are nice but the artsyle is atrocious
>Shadow warrior: Here have gun, here have katana with magicar power. Now go and kirr everything
>Wolfenstein. lol imma break up the flow of the game with shitty stealth segments, take away your guns several times throughout the game and here's some dumb as fuck cutscenes with pants on head retarded characters no one cares about. We deep and engaging story now
>>337709280
Fuck no.
>hating on TNO is now the thing to do
What, did it get to popular with normal people for you to like it now?
TNO doesn't support 120hz so it's immediately out. It's a shame because it looks like a good FPS game that's hidden behind arbitrary frame rate caps
SW is pretty decent but I just don't like melee first person combat
Doom is just incredible in every regard. Easily the best FPS game in a long, long time
Played all of them and I can easily choose now:None
>>337710174
Congrats on figuring out how this shithole operates
>>337709043
Maggot, you're not even fit to lick my duck butter.
>>337708670
Serious Sam 3.
>>337710174
what was good about it?
tryhard plot and cutscenes? magic jews? amazing stealth?
>>337710704
>magic jews
Found your only real problem with this game, Hans.
>>337710504
Care to share a better SP shooter from the last 5 years?
>>337710863
I knew you gonna go with that one.
>>337710695
>run backwards the game
>>337708670
Shadow warrior = Doom > Wolfenstein
Fact.
>>337708670
Shadow Warrior > DOOM > New Order
I'd place the old blood ahead of DOOM
>>337709280
It's ok. It took me until Old Blood challenges to realize that dual assault rifles have pinpoint accuracy, so I might have enjoyed it more had I known that. Still, those challenges are the only sequences where aggressive play is properly incentivised, so if you'll have to get you jollies in spite of the game.
>>337709590
You're alright. Your jank is adorable.
>>337711215
>He has to run backwards at all
Scrub.
>>337711168
Didn't really liked the first SS so I dropped the series. I'm not too fond of the open arenas with a fuck huge amount of opponents. Is it any different on SS2 and SS3?
>>337709280
If you like cutscenes and dialogue every 5 seconds. Play the Old Blood if you want to play an actual Wolfenstein game.
>>337709149
>>337711660
Don't shit post back, you are not funny.
Wolfenstein: The New Order. That game is damn near perfect. Great story, great soundtrack, fun as all fuck. They nailed it. The Old Blood expansion was also quite good.
>>337711669
>SS2
kinda
>SS3
no
>>337710049
>commit holocaust
>not bad guys
Cmon
>>337710049
>TNO made the nazis look like the bad guys.
/pol/ please leave
>>337708670
here have another
>>337708670
>>337708930
>>337709076
i'd choose Wolfenstein, but what >>337709383 says is actually true
>>337709590
>retarded brother
>>337711864
Honest question, did you ever play RTCW?
>>337712219
Short, but still great for its price.
>>337712275
Of course. That has no bearing on how great TNO is though no matter how much you're clearly trying to imply it.
>>337708670
Shadow Warrior is awesome.
Never liked the setting of Wolfenstein, haven't and not going to play The New Order.
Doom looks good, but that glory kill system is retarded, not going to play it.
Hardcore D44M fanboy here played all the old ones so I gotto go with senpai-DOOM but wolfe's alright and never played shadow warrior
>>337712514
>Never liked the setting of Wolfenstein
Well good for you, TNO is alternate history where the nazis won and /pol/ are constantly masturbating. A WW2 shooter this isn't.
... if you still don't care... ok.
>>337710695
I see 35 enemies in there.
>>337712275
He wouldn't find a great story there, that's for sure.
Save us the predictable greentext, it has no relevance.
Originals > D44M > Wolfenstein > Shadow Warrior
Mediocre reboots overall, but not unplayable garbage.
>>337712486
Well I'm just saying that I didn't enjoy The New Order exactly for the story as >>337709383
pointed out. I expected something like RTCW where the game has a minimalistic story with almost no cutscenes.
The only good part of Shadow Warrior is the very beginning where you only right regular human enemies with the katana. Everything after that is repetitive garbage with bullet sponge demons.
>>337710695
Literally the only ones that had the guts not to make a reboot after that shitpile that was SS2.
>>337713039
I've heard so much mixed-opinions about SS2. What's your beef with it our of curiosity. Never played it myself.
D44M > TNB > Shadow Warrior = TNO
>>337713173
The art style to begin with, then the tinier arenas, the god awful puns... I mean it is't totally bad, but sure as fuck not as good as any of the others.
Downloading Prey right now, what am I in for?
>>337712821
This desu famalams, shadow warrior reboot is great and all but waves of enemies gets boring after awhile, unlike the og shadow warrior shit is fun
>>337710695
Not a completely appropriate comparison since it was still made by the original creators (as far as I know, at least).
Still yes, it's fantastic.
>>337713517
I couldn't get past the first twenty minutes of the game. I found it boring and shitty.
>>337713739
Doom is still made by id.
>>337713517
doom 3 with bow
>>337712219
Duels absolutely ruined that game for me.
Other than that it was like a 7/10. I like how it encourages you to do well by making enemies harder to kill when you're not on a killing streak
Shadow Warrior lost me after 5 or 6 hours, not sure why. Wolfenstein was pretty good tho it is a bit slow paced. The new doom is fast as hell with much more open levels than Wolfenstein and a fun as hell soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhIS4FdS7co
>>337713517
A fucking awesome game with a good story, cool weapons, and a GOAT end credits song.
Shadow Warrior is fucking amazing
Wolfenstien is great for a Wolfenstine
Doom makes me want to deepthroat a curling iron
>>337713937
it's ok anon not everyone can have good taste
I'm glad /v/ actually understands what was wrong with TNO.
It's a good game sure but people REALLY like to overrate it
>>337708913
>>337709239
>>337710049
>>337710391
>>337713338
>guys trust me nudoom is amazing best shooter in years
I want the shills to fuck off
>>337713173
Aside from already's been mentioned, needless life system, reliance on tracking shots, new kamikaze enemy doesn't have a clear enough audio que, generally underwhelming guns, and more subtle things about movement, enemy behavior and individual encounter design.
I still think the encounter design and vibrant artstyle places it way above vanilla BFE.
>>337708670
I dare you post a better track from any of those games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hegUgANcTw
>>337711778
>Le laughing cancerman
But how does the options menu look?
>>337713854
Shadow Warrior is extremely tedious. And it's like 25 hours long too so it just drags after the first few hours. Also, fuck the god awful boss fights. I got a lot further than 6 hours (I think maybe 15) but still never finished it.
>>337714071
Maybe he is more into melee dudes in FPV and he hates tiny cutscenes. It is ok, everyone has different tastes.
>>337708670
love all 3
would pick wolf because I grew up with wolf more than doom
>>337713937
you have autism, you post in every fucking thread that just mentions d44m.
>>337708670
they all feel like console trash
but doom is the best of the three
>>337714127
>look mom I posted it again!
>>337708670
Shadow Warrior, easy.
>>337714127
>This meme pic again
>>337709941
Blood 1
Doom 1
Quake 1
Tribes1
Duke Nukem 3D
SiN
Half-Life 1
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
SHOGO
NOLF 1
SOF 1+2
Unreal 1
QIII
AVP 2
Turok 2
special mention:
GoldenEye
Perfect Dark
Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear
SWAT 3
Descent 3
Jedi Knight (Dark Forces 2)
Stalker SOC + Pripyat
Shitpost away, anon.
Didn't play the new DOOM yet but now I'm debating whether the Katana in SW or the Throwing Knives in Wolfenstein were more fun to use
>>337708670
DOOM
Wolfenstein has way too much modern game bullshit interrupting it
I've never liked the Shadow Warrior remake. Feels too circlejerky and the weapons feel shit.
>>337714127
>Denuvo didn't let me play
>>337714202
Boss fights are the one exceptional aspect for the genre, thanks solely to the dash, the problem is with terrible guns being a necessity for bosses.
>>337714202
Oh fuck yea I think I stopped at the first boss fight I encountered, jesus that was terrible.
>All these Shadow Warrior posts
SW had some god awful guns and bosses.
Whenever the fuck SW2 comes out>Doom>SW=The Old Blood>The New Order
>>337708670
Doom of course
>>337713831
All the founders left, only dev that worked on the original Doom that still works there is Kevin Cloud
>post-neo-/v/ hating TNO/OB
>>337714443
The katana would easily win if not for the fact that 90% of the game consists of fighting huge, bullet sponge enemies that take way too long to kill for the katana to ever be viable. Anti-fun game design at its "finest".
Doom > Wolfenstein TNO > Shadow Warrior
I like them all though. Doom is 9/10 single player, TNO is 8/10, SW is 7/10
>>337708670
TNO was shit
Haven't tried DOOM yet
I guess Shadow Warrior has to be the winner
>>337714127
how desperate are you for attention, come talk about it is okay we are all faggots here
>>337714427
Nice.
I appreciate you not mentioning Unreal 2. What a disaster.
>>337714706
>I literally have no reading comprehension so I shall shitpost to make myself feel better
>>337708670
All three you fucking faggot
>>337713173
the constant variety in areas is actually really nice
Daily reminder that we could have been discussing Duke Nukem in this very moment.
>>337714717
The fuck are you talking about, katana is the one decent source of sustained damage because of the stab, the wide piercing projectile, and no need for reloading.
>>337714427
Am I the only one who thinks Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight is a pile of shit? Dark Forces 1, Jedi Outcast, and Jedi Academy are three of my all time favorite games and I've played through each dozens of times. I'm as huge a Star Wars fan as you can get really, love it all. And yet I think that game is terrible.
>>337714636
>asgore fight.webm filename threads
nudoom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPwvJiZYeaI
>>337713039
Well, it kind of just ignores SS2 entirely. It makes no reference to any events of SS2, only TFE and TSE
>>337714127
>this meme picture again
ebin
>>337715080
I thought it was ok. It's like a shit looking version of outcast with bigger (in terms of geometry) levels.
I can see what you mean in that it's not a better doom like DF1 and Jedi Outcast does being a jedi better.
Terrible though? No.
>>337714850
I'll fault Gearbox for many things, but Duke isn't one of them. They've brought closure where no one else would.
>>337715205
>Metalstep
Shadow Warrior 1 is too long for how much content it has
>>337714127
>anime poster
man Shadow warrior Sheldon main character of retarded pop culture refferences and nothing else SUCH
AN
ANNOYING
F
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Talos Principle
>>337715365
Agreed.
They could have cut out a lot of content and stuck them in as bonus levels or something.
>>337713173
Not him but my problem is that some of the new monsters are kind of shitty. Cave demons are basically just a nuisance that pose little, if any threat since they only really attack when you have your back turned and otherwise just annoy the shit out of you by hiding behind pillars making really annoying sounds. The infested copter thing is somewhat tolerable when you've got a decent arsenal to bring them down but when the game strips you of every weapon and leaves you relying on the rocket launcher to take them down it's pretty annoying. Witch Bride is a pain in the ass that doesn't really feel like it belongs in a game that's throwing hundreds of enemies at you at a time. Then there's the baby arachnoids. In SS ep 1 & 2 they were tolerable because they were big and bright colors. Now they're small and shit brown which makes them blend in with the shit brown environment which can be really annoying.
>>337710071
all the guns in shadow warrior were fucking trash and they'll be trash in the second one coming out now gl with your bad game babby
>>337715246
>reference to any events of TFE and TSE
What are you talking about, it's a prequel.
>>337708670
Wolfenstein.
Great gameplay, characters and graphics.
Although I haven't played Doom
>>337715747
You're talking about serious sam 3 though.
>>337714636
Man, all of the demon bosses in SW were so fucking cool. Even if they gameplay was literally the same.
I liked the guardian horse guy especially
>He's guarding Hell's front door
>You come in knocking
Shadow warrior would be great if the guns weren't so fucking ass.
Take the guns from DOOM and TNO, shove them in Shadow Warrior, and the game would be fantastic.
Doom is really great, but I do feel like they should have made the character move a bit faster. Not haste levels, but between the current speed and haste. Then have the special rune that speeds you up after a glory kill bring you to current haste level speeds, and haste makes you go even faster than it currently does so you're zipping around.
Though I understand why they made the speeds as they are now, since it would be hard as fuck to aim that quickly on consoles.
>>337715357
If anything it is industrial metal, not everything electronic is dubstep you dumbo.
>>337713517
>Prey
Style over substance unfortunately. Awesome setting and look to the environments and weapons, but the combat is so-so with a stupid "lol you can't really die" mechanic.
Worth playing.
Haven't played Doom yet. Wolfenstein was pretty decent, but Shadow Warrior was fucking great.
>>337715747
Whoops thought we were talking about SS BFE. SS 2's problem was that it was extremely cartoony and silly and tried to toss in elements from popular games at the time like vehicles which just felt out of place. Don't get me wrong, the SS games have always had kind of a silly side to them like some of the enemies, the multiplayer models, and a lot of the secrets but SS 2 just went overboard and just kind of made everything goofy.
>>337715920
Yea I just remembered.
Still though, SS4 will probably be a sequel to TSE instead of SS2, since basically NOTHING happens in SS2 with the whole mental bait and switch.
>>337709043
lol life must be so sad and empty when you pretend like everything that's received well is shilled
you'll always be pathetic and weak
>>337713517
Best sphincters ever featured in a video game
>>337708670
I'd probably rate it Doom > Shadow Warrior > Wolfenstein. They're all really good though.
>>337714314
>>337714363
>>337714568
>>337714745
>>337715253
>>337715562
>still no counterarguement or disproving
Yeah, can't wait for discussion to die in a week and all the buyer's remorse to wear off
>>337708670
Shadow warrior
>>337716207
It's not industrial.
It's literally "We Have To Try Metal But We Play Dubstep" shit
t. Industrial fan
I've been playing Shadow warrior. FPS aren't really my thing, but it's alright.
Alright, /v/, convince me why I should buy Doom 4 considering you all love it so much
>>337713517
Also stunning visuals
>>337716413
It's been announced a further prequel.
https://youtu.be/8rRuX5xY3Sc?t=1m40s
>>337712779
thanks doc
>>337708670
Not even a contest, Wolfenstein is the best in terms of gameplay, story, script, details, etc.
Shadow Warrior is fun for a budget title and Doom is solid for what it is.
No seriously, Wolfenstein is fucking great and is one of the best FPS games in fucking years.
>>337716665
No one should convince you on what you should play. Do your own fucking research, pirate it or rent it you brainless cow.
>>337716665
just get it and refund it if you don't like it
>>337716495
Trump hates anime and video games.
>>337715080
I like Jedi Knight for the huge sprawling 3D levels with lots of verticality. It's got that experimental early-3D feel to it where the environment feels crazy and dangerous and you're exploring a big open place. Mechanically it's got a fair bit of jank. Never liked the lightsaber combat and the force powers can be really broken.
I think DF1 is an awesome game and the better FPS overall.
>>337714314
>>337714363
>>337714745
>>337715253
>don't even try to counter his post
>just call everything "meme x"
its like I'm really on /v/
>>337714850
DNF wasn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be.
>>337716413
>Fighting Mental never.
>>337714127
that guy never played doom in 1994
>>337716926
>just look at the gameplay
>B-BUT THE GAME IS NOTHING LIKE THAT YOU'RE JUST BASING THE GAME ON FOOTAGE
>>337716756
>Serious sam 4: BBFE
Fug
>>337716585
That really, really isn't dubstep,
>>337716473
>Doom
>better than Shadow Warrior
How about no
>>337717129
your post was filled with subjective criticisms and you used a trump anime image so you're probably retarded
>>337717279
This is an accurate representation of late game speed. Though they're playing on easy I believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwAVoaZcN6Y
>>337717176
>wanting to fight mental
But that would signal the end of the series. Why do you hate Serious Sam, anon? Getreal.
>>337708670
They're all great.
>>337708670
Just finished SW yesterday.
Was really surprised by how fast it can be with you dashing around everywhere slashing shit to pieces.
TNO is a slightly better than average generic shooter desu.
Haven't tried Doom yet becauseno crackbut it looks OKish
Haven't played D44M
New SW was immensely boring
TNO was pretty good
>>337717279
who are you quoting?
>>337717410
They can always make a new shooter IP.
I really want my planet-sized final boss.
>>337717129
It is mostly subjective ( really shitty subjective opinions tho) or simply false, I am not going to bother with such shit bait.
>the HAR with a scope is better and more fun than the microrockets
didn't see that coming
>>337713854
>mick gordon
thank god i dont have money right now
>>337708670
Painkiller
>>337717403
>double jump
>executions
>hallway->arena->hallway
>ironsights
Mommy... I just wanted to play doom, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>337718109
>Double jump is bad
>executions can be disabled, you can also use the rune that makes them last .2 seconds
>ironsights is an upgrade path for one gun, the other upgrade path being mini rockets
>>337717403
this looks mildly fun. I like how games are so shitty that this is actually one of the better games coming out now.
>>337718109
the old doom games were in 2.5d that's why there wasn't any double jumping and those aren't really iron sights if you use them to zoom in
Shadow Warrior if only because it doesn't take up six gorillian GB of hard drive space.
>>337718490
I still get booty bothered by that, especially since my HDD isn't particularly large.
Why can't these fucks just compress their goddamn audio.
>>337715205
What a fucking mess.
Nothing beats Painkiller soundtrack in the recent years.
SS3 had some decent ones but still not as consistent as Painkiller.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sz-LD9S0-A
>>337708670
They're all great but I choose D44M.
Guns weren't fun in SW and Wolfenstein is more Half-Life than RTCW.
D44M is a Doom game and a worthy successor unlike Doom 3.
>>337708670
I liked all 3, but Doom is probably the one I had the most fun with.
TNO probably has too many action/story dips for some people if they expect a non-stop killfest, but the endgame is probably the best in any FPS once you hit themoon base
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44WsFyEOuoM
>>337708670
Shadow Warrior would've been perfect were it not for all those terrible same 3 boss fights and the crossbow being the only useful weapon other than the sword.
>doom
Denuvo
>wolfenstein:tno
Zionist trash
>shadow warrior
A game focused on gameplay
Easy decision
>>337714202
>fps are too hard for me :'(
>>337719609
It is simply a trash game anon
>>337714202
Don't know what you are talking about. Took me 13 hours on hard.
There are only 17 chapters 3 of them being boss fights. It's not long at all.
Granted the bosses were shit but the rest was pretty fun.
doom is great.
Wolfenstein surprised me with its story but wasn't the most memorable gameplay wise. Wasn't bad at all though.
Shadow Warrior, eh. The sequel is looking awesome though.
D44M> Shadow Warrior 2013> Wolfenstein: TNO
D44M is the only decent shooter in this bunch, Shadow Warrior has fun sword combat but the guns are fucking trash most the time. I do hate that both shooters are based around combat arenas instead of just having maze-like levels. Shadow Warrior wears out it's welcome too soon, it does look pretty though.
The New Order though has some great feeling guns but the weapon selection is abysmal and the fact that most enemies use hitscan weapons kills the shooter aspects. It probably has the best feeling shooting out of the three but it's hamfisted story and poor encounter design hold it back considerably. Also who the fuck thought it'd be a good idea to require players to manually pick up ammo/health/armor??
>>337720971
>Shadow Warrior has fun sword combat but the guns are fucking trash most the time
I think they fixed guns with the DX11 patch.
Serious Sam 4 fucking when?
>>337720971
I wanted to see more asian scenery in SW like the fucking graveyard level but then they put you in a fucking factory, a ship and some under construction building instead.
Hopefully none of that shit in SW2.
>>337721378
>That many ammo
>>337721572
Oh yeah I failed to mention that I really hated the level design in Shadow Warrior. In TNO and D44M they at the very least try to emulate old school map design, while Shadow Warrior is just more Hard Reset tier bullshit.
>>337721378
E3 PC gamer conference.
Game itself is still slated for this year, expect a November release based on trends.
>>337721856
It's actually really easy to be always full in those games if you know how to aim and use the right weapons for each situation.
>>337721960
If it gets released this year it will beearly access
>>337722367
Talos Principle didn't have EA, so SS4 probably won't either.
Otherwise we'd have it by now. They've been developing it for 5 years, with all their development power on it for 2 years.
>>337721378
This E3, hopefully. But I'm glad we got Talos first. Was pretty refreshing, abliet a bit samey.
>>337708670
Shadow warrior 2
>>337708670
so I showed footage of the new doom to my dad and I couldn't really put my finger on what was gay about the new doom.
It's the AI. the ai is god awful. they don't come at you, they're not challenging and they don't have any kind of squad dynamics. Also, the levels are too open and the art design of the game isn't really all that great.
>>337714812
This guy gets it.
>all this hate for TNO
Wasn't /v/ praising this as an amazing shooter before?
>>337718490
3rd world opinion is shit opinion
next.
>>337723975
>Wasn't /v/ praising this as an amazing shooter before?
New Order is the most popular and praised overall, so naturally /v/ will prefer Shadow Warrior for being more niche.
That's just how these people work.
>>337724117
I have yet to play Shadow Warrior or the new Doom, but The New Order is pretty great so far and it's been a while since I've played a shooter that wasn't "a differently colored solider" enemy variation.
>>337710695
There are more enemies in one serious sam level than in an entire Doom.
>>337710695
Circle strafe, the game
Should I get the new order? I went full autistic and thought the old blood was new order+dlc or some kind of expansion content, got it it first. Its actually fun, is the new order superior or the same thing?
>>337724664
It's the same thing but in an alternate universe where the Nazis took over the world. "Apparently," /v/ says it's the worst of the bunch but just try it out for yourself. So far, I'm digging it.
>>337708670
It's almost like you're not giving us a choice
>>337716265
>with a stupid "lol you can't really die" mechanic
Is this really a big deal? Nothing stops you from reloading a save. Barely any different than savescumming which most people do with shooters unfortunately.
>>337723975
It's almost as bad as Bioshock Infinite
>>337723975
It came out at the right time when we really needed a new FPS without regenerating health.
I love Shadow Warrior and look forward to the sequel, but there were far too many annoying bullet sponge enemies. Didn't make it hard, just made some battles drag out too long and feel slow. DOOM seemed more to the point and fun, just finished it an hour ago. I should try the new Wolfenstein.
Wolfenstien by millions
>>337725764
Enemies don't stay dead when you load a save.
>>337723975
It was alright but it had a lot of things I didn't like for example the seemingly forced stealth bits and moments that just felt unnecessarily frustrating, like the part on the bridge.
I have only ever played Wolfenstein The New Order, The Old Blood and the original as its both the games and I also think TNO and TOB are the most criminally underrated games of all time.
DOOM.
Wolfestein would be it but not enough actual FPS action and too much filler garbage. Shadow Warrior is just shit.
>>337708670
I choose Wang
>>337721960
You better provide a source for that nigger.
>>337722056
I'm fairly sure max minigun ammo is 500 on difficulties above easy.
>>337722960
>a bit samey
Shadow Warrior and Doom are almost the exact same game, both their remakes and orginals follow the exact same design trends but in both cases Doom just does it better on every level imaginable. I love all three of the games OP posted but I enjoyed Doom the most and it adapted it's original the best. In terms of an adaptation Wolfenstein is forgivable since it was a series before 3D.
>>337729740
You dun embarrassed yourself, cakeboy. Serious difficulty always doubled the ammo.
>>337710695
Love SS3 but I hate the level design. I hate how each level is an hour long with so much padding and filler in between memorable moments. The best way I can describe it is I always think about replaying it but then I actually start a level and its slow tedious shit, the part i actually wanted to replay is twenty or fourty minutes away, and I just quit. With Doom each level after the first two feels amazing to me, I love every moment, the filler in between fights is still engaging and well crafted, I enjoy every second of it. The puzzles and environment exploration as well as the deserts themselves in SS3 are unbelievably boring. I would say this is a problem in all Serious Sam games but most up front in 3.
My complaints aside, Serious Sam 3 doesnt really fit with the other three classic shooter revivals because unlike them, as reboots, Serious Sam never stopped.
>>337713937
Shadow Warrior did to the original classic what Doom did to Doom. You cant like one and like the other or else you're admitting you never played the original Shadow Warrior before. If you will then argue that you have to take it for what it is, and its well done for that, I would say the same for Doom and its just as applicable.
Shadow Warrior barely has ANYTHING in common with the original. Should have been just a new IP, but they just have to milk the "old school shooter" crowd I guess.
>>337708670
I like three but Doom is better.
Shadow Warrior was enjoyable but level design sucked ass, it's litteraly corridors and repetitive hallway with 10 time more invisible wall than both the other combined. TNO had stupid shit like chokepoint preventing you from backtracking, too cramped spaces and stealth sections (last point is okay cause you can still ignore the advice and rampage your way through)
>>337730516
>I always think about replaying it
Ever tried the Enhanced mod? Highly recommend it, though it might require the DLC.
>>337716792
Youre blowing it way the fuck out of proportion. I love the game too, I beat it twice on Uber, but its still just a cover based hitscan (and some projectiles) shooter. Its the most well done one I have played but thats all it is in terms of gameplay. I love Doom much more because its about actually running around and avoiding enemy attacks because of your movement, not running to the next cover because if you're exposed for a second you're gunned down. But Wolfenstein relies on more than just its gameplay, thats why its good.
>>337714127
Two third of these stupid point aren't even remotly true. This picture is retarded and so are you.
>>337714127
>didn't played the game
>same picture
>shitposting this hard
>butthurt thi hard because the game is good
literally autism incarnate
>>337731054
I dunno what that is. I have the DLC though, its fantastic.
>>337714127
>post only samefag responded to
>keeps getting spammed on /v/ to prove a point
this is some neoreddit shiz
>>337730810
Exactly, thats why I dont understand why people are ok with it but not Doom. I was actually an old school 3D realms fan and loved SW, but I simply accepted they are doing something completely different with it.
>>337708670
I'll go with the wang, but Doom is a close second.
So how long until /v/ admits Doom 4 is good?
>>337731293
Uses the same maps but changes around all the encounters, as well as item placement. Much better enemy variety, better arsenal ramp with proper sniper rifle and lasgun integration, it plays like a whole new campaign.
>>337731127
>>337731171
Get some fucking self control, the bate is 3 hours old and you've added nothing that wasn't posted before.
>>337708670
DOOM easily.
It has the least amount of cutscenes and the best guns
>>337714850
Direct your anger appropriately young one. Apogee were the reason DNF was a steaming pile of shit, focus your hate to them.
Feel free to hate gearbox for trying to pretend that the shitheap apogee produced was worth selling though.
>>337731841
Is enhanced on the steam workshop?
>>337731841
It also adds something that the vanilla game direly needed: actually funny secrets instead of just +1hp mini-secrets or some shit like that.
Shadow Warrior because TNO still has no sequel and the forced romance subplot.
>>337708670
>none of the above
all were shitting remakes
>>337714850
Alot of that work was polishing the half finished build 3D Realms was working on, look at the old gameplay when it was still considered Vaporware for the 360/PC.
>>337708670
At the moment shadow warrior > doom 4 >>>>>>>> wolfenstein
But i'm only about 4 hours into doom
>>337732907
4 Hours into Doom I was having a great time
4 Hours into Shadow Warrior it still had barely picked up. Took much longer to become half as fun as doom, for me.
>>337712238
>Games having references to other games from the same studio is a circlejerk
Devolver / Flying Wild Hog isn't the first developer to do this, and they won't be the last.
