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Emily Rogers (who leaked paper mario colour splash and is the most credible source we have atm) confirmed that the NX will be less powerful than the PS4. With that that makes the second flopped generation for nintendo in a row, a first time in their history.

>https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/so-about-nx/

What will nintendo do now? Will they just sell their IP's to sony and quit videogames altogether?
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>>337693874
>With that that makes the second flopped generation for nintendo

How does sonypony logic
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To the surprise of no one. Enjoy your Wii 3, nintendrones.
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>>337693874
>ARM instead of x86
Its a handheld with a secondary device for playing games on a TV like Nintendo patented.
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>Emily Rogers
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>>337693874
>she leaked paper mario

Didnt she leak it every year until it eventually came true?
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>>337693874
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOT AGAIN

If the NX will flop I will stream shoving a PS4 controller in my ass mark my words
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>>337693874
>Emily Rogers (who leaked paper mario colour splash and is the most credible source we have atm)
List five other things she leaked.
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>>337693874
Sourceless claims backing sourceless claims. I have no hope for NX being good, but you kids need to fuck off. We'll see it when Nintendo reveals it.
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Why are they so afraid of up to par tech? I like my Wii U for Smash and Mario Kart, but they have no fucking clue how to compete, and being an alternative to another system, while it worked for me, doesn't work for the mass.
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>"Don't worry guys, it won't be another Sticker Star!".
Why do we believe her again?
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>>337693874
Doesn't that person leak a bunch of shit that isn't true, they just hope to get lucky by "leaking" a bunch of shit
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Oh geez in don't know

How about telling that to the PS2 who was weaker than both GC and Xbox
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It's supposed to have a nvidia tegra soc.

It's over for nintendo.
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>>337693874
>Implying Emily is actually credible
Are you seriously such a retarded cuck that you think we should take her word for it when she has no sources or literally anything to backup what she says?
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>>337695180
PAPER
MARIO
COLOUR
SPLASH
NX
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>>337695251
The gamecube was up to par
No one bought it
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>>337693874

>less powerful than PS4

honestly who fucking cares? If the system has fun games on it, it will succeed. If it doesn't, it will fail.

no one gives a shit about console power anymore. it's just something for fanboys to work themselves up over.
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>>337695530
A blind chimp would have seen that coming.
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>>337693874
>Emily Rogers
>"leaked" one game
>credible
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>>337693874
>Sony wins again
chad_daddy.mp4
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>>337695180
GTAV and Soulcalibur 5 are coming to the WiiU.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/emily-rogers-re-confirms-and-guarantees-grand-theft-auto-5-soul-calibur-5-and-pikmin-3-for-cafe.202902441/
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>>337693874

Of course the NX is going to be less powerful than a console

Because it's a handheld.
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>>337695429
The Wii U is about the same in power as a PS3. The PS2 was not the same in power as an N64.
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>>337695582
>Wii u 2
>it's gonna succeed guys
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Why do "gamers" care so much about "hype" and leaks and the future?
Have fun now.
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If it's a handheld it's understandable. The technology for that power with good battery and low price probably doesn't exist.
It it's not, no excuse, it will be terrible.

It is worrying that they won't use x86, that means it will literally get no third party support.

I don't worry that it can't do 4k resolution, that's just a gimmick and won't be relevant for a long time. Nobody even have tvs that can play that.

But the goals it should reach: 1080. The Wii U is already able to do that for some games, so it'll probably be done.

lol i'm just assuming it will be a hybrid by the way i think, but it may not be. only, if it's not handheld in any way i have absolutely no interest. a hybrid should be able to do hd, and have an hd screen.
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What kind of idiot would actually pay money for another Nintendo console after the Wii and WiiU? I don't care how fucking good it is. They'll just drop support on it in a couple years and shit out another no games machine.
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>>337693874

That's not shocking that's expected. When was the last time Nintendo had the most powerful ANYTHING?
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>>337693874
>Nintendo
>Releasing inferior hardware
Why am I not surprised?
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No one fucking cares about console power anymore OP. There are exponentially more people playing games with gradeschool 2001 graphics than there are playing games with glowing soft ear tissue.
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>>337693874
>Emily rogers
All she does is play super safe cards. She didint even leak color splash all she said was that they were making a new paper mario. Its like saying that they are making a new mario game next year.
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>>337695716

http://web.archive.org/web/20130109101543/http://gameolosophy.com/consoles/lets-make-a-bet/2

>I am willing to risk everything on these predictions. If I am wrong on any of these predictions, I will never write an article again.

I guess rumormongering tweets don't count.
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>>337695860
Wii was the longest lasting Nintendo Console
WiiU is most likely to be only cut short by half a year of the norm, which we're not even 100% sure yet.

You should consider suicide. Not even a nintendrone.
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>>337695251
Their worst performing console before the wii u was stronger than the best performing console of its time

Their best performing console was by far the weakest of its time
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http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/emily-rogers-says-shell-never-post-another-article-again-if-shes-wrong-on-any-the-following-rumors.202749211/

Why do you waste your time with the bitch? My cat could give you better predictions.
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>>337695716
I don't understand rockstar at all. A majority of the people who but GTA is for kids whose parents aren't sure what the game is. So since a majority of the Nintendo user base are children why didn't they make a port of gta5 to WiiU when it came out? It Would be started off the WiiU with a stronger selection of games and appeal to the majority of the user base as well
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>>337695450
she claims to have 7 different sources who all agree
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>>337695846
>It is worrying that they won't use x86, that means it will literally get no third party support.

Yeah that's a pretty big issue. PC and the other consoles use unified tech so absolutely no one will go through the pain of porting to a different architecture for minimal extra sales.
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>>337696149

Welp, that's good enough for me. Pack it up boys, someone just claimed something and I believe it 100% without any doubt.
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>>337696110
What does your cat say about Persona 5 dual audio
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>>337696021
I just don't get this woman at all.

She's been doing this for years. What could she possibly be getting out of this?
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>>337695989
>All she does is play super safe cards.
Best way to put it.

It's like claiming to be psychic and predicting little more than a memorized routine.
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>>337696160
Ports shouldn't be that hard, actually. The real factor will be popularity. I'm more concerned that nintendo is working with nvidia. They've screwed over literally everyone they've worked with and routinely screw with their customers, their competition, and devs. I really don't trust them, and if they pull another twist with Nintendo and the NX doesn't light fires... well, Nintendo might be the one on fire.
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>>337695989
>All she does is play super safe cards.
Yeah, this thread even started with one
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>>337693874
>who leaked paper mario colour splash
An employee let it slip, she just repeated it months later. She clearly knew nothing about the game by saying shit like "It's not another Sticker Star".
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>>337695716
>*The team that worked on Smash Bros 64, Smash Bros Melee, and Smash Bros Brawl transferred the assets of the game to another developer to work on it. The original Smash Bros team is not working on this new Smash Bros title.

Except the original team's last game was Melee. Brawl was developed by GameArts.
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>Nintendo did it again
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>>337693874
>polaris rumors are whacky
>provides no actual arguement
polaris 10 chips have nothing to do with how much power amd's semi-custom chips have, they play around with many factors including the most direct factor to power, how many CUs it has.

that aside emily has just been less and less trustworthy over time.
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>>337697178
Please tell me they patched this shit.
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>>337697178

This is for the Wiiers
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>>337697549
>nintendo
>patches
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>>337693874
>Emily Rogers (who leaked paper mario colour splash
this never happened, she just reblogged some japanese dude interview.
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>>337697549
that's a pretty cherrypicked pic. Dont get me wrong, the game was shit and poorly optimized but that is one such example of it at it's worst, in that case having not even loaded textures yet for pretty much anything on scene. But no, they didnt fix it.
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Is everyone ignoring the fact that Nintendo does much much more with less?
I'm not even trying to suck Ninty's dick on this one. It's been the case since the Wii. Nintendo knows how to utilize their hardware so well, they use every last drop of it and can make a game on the Wii that were better to look at than some on PS3. We saw the same instance on the Wii U. The numbers aren't as big, but the hardware is much more unified and sophisticated because it's almost all custom. And of course, the fact that Nintendo can use every drop of power on the console and so can other devs (once they understand the hardware better).

All I'm saying is, give Nintendo half the hardware of the PS4, and they can make a game that looks as good as a PS4 game and runs smoothly.
Give them power equivalent or close to the PS4 hardware (but with Nintendo's custom touch) and it's basically a PS4.5 or more.
There's more to a console than just the numbers and that goes for PC as well.

It's why you don't buy a graphics card that's only $100 bucks yet promises 8gb of vram or some shit. Don't be surprised when the more expensive card from a more trusted brand, delivers 5 times the performance despite only being 1gb of vram for $250 or something.
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>>337697178

I'll never understand why people suddenly forgot how UE3 behaved.
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>>337695429
The PS2 had third party support. All signs point to the NX having the same sort of third party support as the WiiU.

Meaning next to none.
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>>337693874
>Emily Rogers
>credible source
kek
The girl that said PM will be nothing like Sticker Star?
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>>337693874
how about they compete like an honorable publisher and put their games on steam and PSN

fucking greedy japs

>buying an entire console for mario and zelda
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>>337693874
>confirmed that the NX will be less powerful than the PS4
Not necessarily the problem so long as they actually make games for the fucking thing.
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>>337695251
>Nintendo 64 is more powerful than PS1.
>Nintendo gets rekt
>Gamecube is more powerful than PS2
>Nintendo gets rekt
>Wii is dogshit in comparison to PS3 and xbox
>Microsoft and Sony get rekt
>DS and 3DS also weaker than PSP and Vita
>Sony cannot get a break and still doesn't come close to the success of DS and 3DS
And ever since then, they decided to play it safe.
So the better question is guys, why didn't you buy a 64 and a gamecube, and why did you buy a Wii.

Because that's why we're here.
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>>337693874
>Emily Rogers ( who leaked Soul Calibur and the Rockstar WiiU project)
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>>337693874
nintendo is so fucking stupid

i used to be a diehard fanboy until they Wii U. i hope they fucking burn down and go bankrupt
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>>337697893
>All I'm saying is, give Nintendo half the hardware of the PS4, and they can make a game that looks as good as a PS4 game and runs smoothly.

Let's not be stupid here.

Nintendo isn't going to spin gold out of straw. A 755MHz x86-64 CPU and 4GB of RAM might be fine for them but it's not pleasing to 3rd parties.
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The power of the console has fuck all to do with it. Nintendo's problem is, and always has been, that they don't offer incentives or support to third-party developers.

If they ARE going for the rumoured hybrid machine, they need to sit down with people like Ubisoft, Activision and EA and leverage some of that handheld dominance to get a library that people will actually want. And it goes further than "We will help promote it in our line-up".

They need to be sending their own people down to help teams get used to the system, explain the differences and challenges in porting existing games and offer to help with some of the hassle.

Basically, what they did for Ninja Gaiden 3, but with developers who actually have shit worth playing.

Get a library people want and turn up the marketing machine and they'll flock to your system in droves.
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>>337697854
Don't forget the exclusive new outfits for Batman and Catwoman that looked disgustingly bad
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>>337693874
>less powerful than the PS4(a glorified netbook in a box with Sony's logo on it)
>implying console "power" matters
Why should being stronger than the Bottleneck4 even be a factor to how well the NX will perform?
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>>337697893
>I'm not even trying to suck Ninty's dick on this one.
Yet you proceed to suck their dick hard. Fuck off, drone.
>All I'm saying is, give Nintendo half the hardware of the PS4, and they can make a game that looks as good as a PS4 game and runs smoothly.
I hope you don't actually believe this.
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>>337694648
The arm architecture is superior to x86. The reason x86 "won" is because the Jews at Intel shilled it even though their x86 was literally translating instructions to RISC.
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>>337698353
The reason they don't get third parties is because their hardware is fucking cancer to develop for.

PS4 and Xbox run the same APU, just the PS4 is clocked slightly higher.

nintendo? they run some stupid shit straight out of 2007. developers don't want to spend time and money developing for ancient hardware.

if nintendo came out with a good APU with hardware from 2015 they might stand a chance but if not, oh well
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>Emily Rodgers

Why does /v/ listen to her again? She's apparently been wrong about plenty of things before, so what makes her so special or trustworthy to the point where we need a thread every time she says something?
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Of course it's ARM and less powerful than PS4: It's a fucking handheld.
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>Emily Rogers
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It's Emily Rogers ,at least, cute?
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>>337698318
Well yes, I was speaking exclusively about Nintendo games developed by Nintendo themselves.
Their 3rd party developers tend to need a lot more time to begin to use the console as efficiently and most of the time, they stop supporting the damn thing before they do.

>>337698403
So then explain how Nintendo has made games on the Wii and Wii U that look better than some PS3 and PS4 games, despite being 1/4 of their power.
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>leaked Paper Mario
And what else has she "leaked"? I never hear anything but this
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If it works then it works. See PS2.

But I can't see how it's going to compete against Xbox and PS4 + possible respective upgrades, as well as more importantly, respective Sony/Microsoft online gaming/service infrastructures.

Nintendo is just behind the times...
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>>337698529
That's what I'm saying. Whatever wizards they've got working at Nintendo always know how to push their hardware in the right places to make shit look palatable. These are the people who made Galaxy happen on the Wii, and Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U.

They need to go down and pass on some of that knowledge, and maybe some actual staff, to people who have games they want. Nobody's going to buy the latest edition of CoD on a Nintendo machine unless it looks as good, if not better than, the versions on PS4/Xbone and it's not going to do that if Nintendo doesn't show them how.

Like I said, they have precedent. They did exactly that thing for Ninja Gaiden 3 on Wii U, to get it up and running, fix some of the major problems within the game and basically turn it into a reasonably good piece of software. Only problem was Ninja Gaiden 3 was fundamentally shit to begin with.

Essentially, Nintendo need to do as much hand-holding with third-party developers as they do with their customers.
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>Emily Rogers
>credible
HAHAHAHAHA.
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Probably bait but
>Weaker than PS4
That piece of shit can barely handle anything at all, I really hope it's fake.
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>>337698571
It's fun to believe rumors if it makes something look bad, no matter what the source. At this point I'll just wait before they show the damn thing off to pass judgment on it.
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>>337698678
If they're so good then why don't they use similar hardware to their competitors? According to your logic they should blow everyone away easy if they do that.
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>>337698485
Yeah but the other two consoles use x86 so the porting process will be slightly harder for third parties yet again.
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>>337696605
Well people know who Emily Rogers is now. So there's that to be proud of.
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>>337698678
>Their 3rd party developers tend to need a lot more time to begin to use the console as efficiently and most of the time, they stop supporting the damn thing before they do.

They took to GameCube, NES and Game Boy rather easily.

It was everything else that was fucked up.
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>>337695039
She started recently, about the time that an actual Intelligent Systems dev said that he was working on a new Paper Mario game for the Wii U at a job fair.
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>>337695729
The WiiU was released almost 3 years before the other 2 Gen 7 consoles. It's on par with PS3 because upon release, that's what it had as competition. The NX will likely do the same. Nintendo releases their consoles earlier then the other two, giving them a headstart on the market. The other two companies then see what happens with Nintendo's 'innovations' and copy what works eg Kinect and the PS Lollipop trying to ride on the Wii's motion control success. They learn from Nintendo's mistakes and ride the coattails of their successes.
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>>337698485
>The arm architecture is superior to x86.

I'm dying for you to tell me why.

Given the rest of your post is practically gibberish I'm guessing you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>337693874
Nintendo's fucking dumb, it seems.
Remember when they use to be the cutting edge of tech?
I think it's time they move on and focus on something else.
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>>337695884
Gamecube.
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>>337698937
Literally no employee said that, they just had Paper Mario as one of the projects they worked on in the flyers.
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>>337699090
http://gonintendo.com/stories/232993-rumor-intelligent-systems-working-on-paper-mario-for-wii-u

It's listed as Paper Mario for Wii U.
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>>337698934
The nes and gameboy were a boom time for development with few choices and 98% of third party games on either are horrid.


Gamecube also took time for third parties to get the best out of it.
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>>337695294
She never said this.
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She leaking Paper Mario is a lie.


That was leaked from Japan.
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>>337698529
>nintendo? they run some stupid shit straight out of 2007. developers don't want to spend time and money developing for ancient hardware.
Right, they would rather develop for ancient 2008 tech instead of 2007.
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>>337695578
Still sold better than the Wii U.
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>>337698976
>/v/ in charge of knowing about hardware and software development
Of course he's talking out of his ass.
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>next nintendo console is going to be shit
You don't need a leak to know that.
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>>337699192
The only game I see there for Wii U is Game&Wario
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>>337696130
nobody understands what rockstars currently does
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>Emily rogers
just look at her past e3 "leaks"
she is wrong all the time.
i still rememebr the 3ds and wiiu launch ones.
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No because I'm not comparing Nintendo using the PS4 to make a game, I'm comparing Nintendo having their EQUIVALENT of the competitor.

Like 4gb of ram on the PS4, is probably shittier ram than what Nintendo's 2.5gb will be. So let Nintendo get their own 4gb of ram and it'll be as if PS4 had 7gb. There's obvious pricing and business reasons for why they don't just dump some shitty AMD chips into a box and call it a new Nintendo console like Sony and MS. The only problem is, Nintendo doesn't have the balls to take that risk anymore. They'll still rather the console be cheaper and more affordable so even though they more than can blow the PS4 out of the water in terms of power, but if they do, that's another $500 console on the market, making it less appealing. Especially to who Nintendo is trying to sell it to.

>>337698934
Isn't the main reason why 3rd party devs wont work with Nintendo is because Nintendo are fucking Jewish assholes to 3rd party? I don't think hardware was ever a problem.
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>>337698834
Forgot to put you in for the reply.
>>337699595
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>>337699595
The reason 3rd party devs don't work with Nintendo is partially to do with hardware, and partially to do with Nintendo's really lax attitude to them.

Nintendo won't go above and beyond to help a publisher out with getting the most out of the system, and publishers don't really want to spend money on training to learn how to make games for Nintendo's usually unique hardware.

It's a problem that could be solved by investing more time in team training, or by Nintendo taking an active interest in third-party development.
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>>337693874
Stop giving these fucking leakers attention. For every time they are "right" they are wrong 5 times over. They are guessing.

Piss off.
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>>337695716
Not to defend her, but GTAV for Wii U was actually in development but was cancelled during development because Nintendo are a bunch of dumbfucks who actively make life harder for 3rd parties just to fuck with them.
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>>337699204
Still wasn't difficult for developers to use or port to.

SNES took some time for Japanese devs to adapt to because it wasn't 68000 based. They were essentially asking them to develop for a mini-Amiga.

As for Wii and Wii U, the former was a generation behind and the latter had a fair GPU but memory and CPU were too little for their demand.
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>>337699595
>Isn't the main reason why 3rd party devs wont work with Nintendo is because Nintendo are fucking Jewish assholes to 3rd party?
Yes. Look up what happened to Tengen and Galoob (even if Nintendo got BTFO with the Galoob one). Its basically why the Genesis sold so well, developers have largely always hated Nintendo. As much as I love their games and older systems, they really are the Apple of video games.
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>>337696130
Its less to do with rockstar and more with 2K. I think Rockstar at the time said they might be interested in doing a Wii U version of GTAV but I know 2K was really against the Wii U from the start
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>>337698275

You didn't wake up with the wii?
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>>337696130
They wanted to do it but cancelled it because the dev kits they got from nintendo at that time were a bunch of garbage that overheated all of the time, had 0 documentations (because hurr durr super secret nintendo only inside knowlegde) and literally no features.
There were also other devs who complained about the dev kits and then cancelled their project like Volition.
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>another gimmick machine
>will be left behind in terms of hardware again, hampering third-party support
holy shit, i am amazed; i honestly wonder if nintendo will manage to pull their heads out of the sand before they completely fail

their exclusives/IPs are lightyears ahead of sony's/microsoft's, but instead of realizing that they NEED the big multiplats and a competent online system to compete, they're building another fucking underpowered gimmick machine
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>>337699751
>Nintendo won't go above and beyond to help a publisher out with getting the most out of the system

From what I hear that's not really the problem, Sony and Microsoft don't really do much to help anyone who isn't first party developer either.

The big issue is it's apparently a struggle to get Nintendo to do even the minimum, like supplying necessary technical documentation. That was supposed to change with the Wii U but according to Ubisoft nothing changed at all. I've actually heard it said that Microsoft is really the only company that is good with documentation, it's just that nobody has a choice but to deal with Sony same as nobody had a choice but to deal with Nintendo back in the day.
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>>337693874
I freaking love how you guys all think Nintendo is doomed, it's so cute. Nintendo has been around longer than a shit ton of companies, I hope you realize that. They have money to keep going, and to keep failing...and to keep winning my heart with freaking fun , colorful and addictive games.
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>retards believing bullshit again

Can we PLEASE make NseX rumors bannable?
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>>337700739
>i'm too young to remember the downfall of sega firsthand!
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Regardless of the leaks and speculation, I think it will be disappointing and terrible. Why would anyone else think otherwise?
I don't hope it flops, but I also don't intend on supporting new age Nintendo after getting a 3DS and Wii U and getting next to nothing out of either.
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>>337700290

Ubisoft managed to rework one of their games into ZombiU within a year, the same company that shits out Assassin's Creed games with glitches on every platform and thought Watch Dogs was a GTA killer. The dev kits may not have been perfect but if Ubisoft can do it Rockstar sure as fuck could have.

Rockstar was probably never involved with Wii U development to begin, thanks to 2K.
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>>337696160
>PS4 uses x86 like PC
>PC STILL misses lout on games
>PC doesn't get Japanese games until literal years later

It's not about architecture similarity, it's about platform relevance. As it stands, PC is by and far the least relevant platform for games, judging by how often ports are broken and how common it is for games to be delayed. To say nothing of Japanese games.
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>>337698275
You lived through the Wii, and that would be bad anough, but on top of that you STILL got a WiiU, so you must still be very autistic

Please remain by nintendo's side and die with them, don't spread your disease elsewhere
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>>337696267
My cat says not happening because atlus is shit. It'll have good waifus though.
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Why not drop the hardware and develop a steam-like app?

Win-win for everyone and the games would look amazing on anything higher than a mid tier card.

Just imagine Smash and Zelda natively on PC.

They could even make an official usb controller or something, or sell a machine like Gabe tries to do.

Anything but a Power PC architecture for fucks sakes.
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>>337697970
UE3 was and remains the biggest piece of shit engine ever made. Every single bad port, barring precisely GTA4, all run a version of UE3. UE3 was designed for the Xbox first, because of muh Gears, and any other version was just hacked to work.

I'm surprised no one sued Epic games out of existence for making such a horrid engine.
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>>337699258
She literally did though.
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>>337701272
Don't worry, their defence method still works wonders

Whenever they see a list of 40+ games and spot of handful of weebgames the list is completely invalidated and it's all weeb shit

That way they never feel bad on skipping games others are enjoying or waiting months and years for them
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Nintendo doesn't really need strong hardware to create their $60 mobile games, as proven with the Wii U. I do hope that they at least refuse to make any gimmicks that will diminish their consoles' potential again.
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>>337701631
*also on vita and playstation 3
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>>337701272
>it's about platform relevance.
No, it's about control. There's more control when it comes to consoles so there's a natural bias towards them.
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>>337701426
way too easy to pirate, pc gamers refuse to play premium for anything and nintendo gamers will pirate if it's easy (look at what happened to the ds)
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>>337701865
I find it kind of crazy that people haven't really spotted that sharp decline in quality they have been providing for YEARS now.

Nintendo pretty much only had their software going for them, but even now, they are the worse they have ever been. The Wii changed them into a number churner.
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>>337701426
>Why not drop the hardware and develop a steam-like app?
Because it wouldn't be Steam.
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>>337701528
Saint row 2 and rsident evil 4 though.
Honestly, UE3 is decent compared to shittier ports in late 90s - early 00s.
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What would happen if, despite weaker hardware, Nintendo actually produced a system with a throng of 3rd party support, free online play, and games that, while technically inferior to other consoles, were actually really fun and really great to play?

What if they dropped the gimmicks and went back to what made them great?
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>>337701879
Where is that fact obfuscated in the image?

It says Sony exclusives, not PS4 exclusives
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>>337702013

What sharp decline? Most of their newest installments were a step up from the previous one. The exceptions were Mario 3D World (came behind the Galaxies) and Kirby (in a stupidly consistent streak).

I would bet money that Zelda does the same and I'm not a betting man.
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>>337696605
Real talk? It's either one or two things.

1. She just loves the attention.

Or

2. She wants people to know who she is when she releases her indie game, which will make it a lot easier to promote virally. Yes, that was the official reason she gave for leaving game journalism.

We don't know a whole lot about her, really, so it's really impossible to say for sure. I don't think we even know what she looks like, do we?
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>>337701631
I've been looking for this picture.

If Nintendo is so relevant in Japan, and if the PS4 is doing so poorly in Japan, then why are all the Japanese games on the PS4 and not the Wii U? Can you answer that?
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>>337695251
Nintendo hates selling hardware at a loss, and there's a good chance something else is driving up the price like backwards compatibility.
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>>337702134

The online could be perfect and people won't care because they're already handcuffed to a Live or PSN subscription. Third party exclusives on Nintendo hardware piss people off instead of encourage sales, and multiplats are guaranteed for the other consoles so there's no motivation to switch or double dip. Fun games are pretty low on the list of things a console needs to sell well, it's more important to be a multimedia device now.
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>>337701956
>look at what happened to one of Nintendo's most successful handhelds

Okay anon.
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>>337693874
Thus, Nintendo can't do anything right. Again.
I hope their source is wrong. But I seriously doubt it.
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>Post yfw the NX bombs and Nintendo wasted millions on R&D
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>>337701631
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>>337701528

UE3 was not a piece of shit engine. It was an engine to certainly overstayed it's welcome but it was far from a piece of shit when it was first released.

And no, it wasn't designed for the xbox first. There would be little point in it being designed around the support of user modification if that were true. It was so not designed for consoles it was utterly impossible to run at at anything higher than 30fps for a very long time on the consoles. The PC version had no such limitation. This was not a graphics hardware thing, out of the box UE3 just would not do higher than 30fps on the consoles because it had not been well ported. It wasn't until it was used for Mortal Kombat and it was decided that 60fps was essential for that sort of game was this issue was solved.
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>>337702679
Read the thread, dingus. Emily Rogers isn't trustworthy at all.
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>>337702537

This mentality among fans is why Nintendo thinks it doesn't need any third party support, and is never arsed to fix their system for getting and maintaining third party support.
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Power != games

Seriously, Nintendo has never really benefited from having stronger machines. Even when they did have the stronger one, the consol didn't do phenomenal or anything.

And even on low power hardware, a game can still be good as long as the work is put into the gameplay and story and shit.

They need to go back to just trying to make games that are large on content, not render size.
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>>337693874
What is it with millenials and their fascination about which company has the most powerful e-peen?
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>>337693874

These threads should be ban-worthy if they aren't already. Fuck off OP.
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>>337702537
>Third party exclusives on Nintendo hardware piss people off instead of encourage sales
They piss people off everywhere.
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>>337702369
Most 3rd parties sell like shit on nintendo homeconsoles, so they go with the PS4

Also the Vita is still doing well in japan, so porting vita games to PS4 is a no-brainer

PS3 is still alive and kicking (relative to other last gen consoles, currently) and still gets games to this day, which are also ported to PS4.

Most japanese games in that image are sony multiplats, not PS4-only exclusives, that's why its getting so many games, because they come from 3 consoles and all end up on PS4. While most 3DS games remain 3DS exclusive, and the Wii is pretty much dead.

>>337702794
>crosses gundam breaker 3
>leaves EDF4.1 intact
b-but anon, they are pretty much the same game.

Also you are interested in 9 games from that pic. That's well above 1 game per month, you have not outgrown vidya yet breh.
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>>337702794

You should check out CyberSleuth and Gundam Breaker

And maybe GuiltyGear if you like fightan
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literally

who
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>>337693874
Whoa so this.... is the nintendo power.....
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>>337702794
>Crosses out GG but leaves Uncharted 4
Unholy shit taste, batman!
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>Not android, but compatible with android apps!

It's fucking Android with a different launcher. Or a cheap fork.

Nintendo is splitting hairs and are fucking up again.
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>>337702967
That has never been the point.

Power makes a better case for the presentation of a game if not that then it at least attracts developer support. The point isn't to blow the other system out of the water, it's to make sure it's not getting jewed out of the same games as the competition if it's able to run on their hardware just as well.
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I have an honest question.

I never owned a Gamecube as a teenager and I missed out on a lot of good games that I played after the Wii came out. Similarly, I bought a Wii really late in it's life and I have 3 games (NMH1/2, Xenoblade) for it. The only reason I would ever consider getting a WiiU is for Bayo and Wonderful 101.

It seems to me that every fucking game on Nintendo consoles is a Nintendo 1st party game, and typically Mario and crew stuff.

So, my question is this. Those of you that are fans of Nintendo consoles, do you really like those characters that much that stuff like Smash and Mario Kart are console-sellers to you? The only things I'm interested in are 3rd party games really, but do you guys honestly love playing the same games with the same characters over and over forever?

I'm actually not trying to be a dick; it just makes no fucking sense to me.
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>>337703075
>PS3 is still alive and kicking (relative to other last gen consoles, currently) and still gets games to this day, which are also ported to PS4.
That's not a good thing. We could have had Persona 5 years ago if it wasn't for the PS4.

Really, I'm pretty confident that if Nintendo tried a similar setup they would get slammed for it.
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>>337696106
>Their worst performing console before the wii u was stronger than the best performing console of its time

Which was that?

The gamecube was weaker than the Xbox overall, and compromises such as the disc drive led to more stripped down versions of multiplatform games.
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>>337702369
More power = okay to have sloppier programming.
But mostly it's that most of those are established franchises or developers that already have a niche fan base on Sony consoles. There's also SFV that Sony helped pay for.
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>>337703219
That doesn't look like a magazine to me.
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>>337695251
They don't need to
Nintendo survives on a core of people who will buy whatever they put out, there's no reason to jack up the price of the console so that Zelda can look slightly better when it isn't likely to attract many more people
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>>337701201
ZombiU actually was horrible performance wise.
Like real horrible for what it was.

Now compare that to GTAV, that would run at like ~20fps on WiiU, similar to PS360 version, even if it was optimized to the maximum.
Without full optimization GTAV wouldnt even be playable, so there is no reason to make it, especially if you have to spend several extra months to learn how the hardware works on their own.

There is a reason why devs like Platinum and Sega resorted on making a PC version first and then porting it to Wii U instead of straight building a version for the Wii U.

Also funny how you blame 2K when they brought their in house sports games to wii u and the other titles werent brought to it because they learned that there was 0 support for UE3 and they would have to deal with Epic and port the engine themselves.
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What the fuck is Nintendo's aim, lads? Give it to me straight. Because all I'm seeing is a Wii U again.
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>>337703460
How, we don't even know what the fuck the NX is

Every month we get some rumor its going to be extremely powerful, then next month it's going to be on par with xbone, then repeat.
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>>337703336

Get this. I have a PC to go with my Wii U.

It's that simple.
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>>337703071

It's much more prevalent when Nintendo does the snatching. Also unlike Sony/MS grabbing exclusives* like Tomb Raider or SFV, Nintendo exclusives are solely on their system, forever. You can point at the Capcom GC games as an exception, though that doesn't make MH3U or Bayo2 multiplat all of a sudden.
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>>337703336
>Nintendo makes good games
>people are willing to buy consoles to play said good games
this isn't rocket science, retard
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>>337703319
That goes entirely against what happened with the Game Boy. It was cheap, weak, and looked like ass but it got a ton of developer support because it was comparatively cheap to work on.
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>>337696021
>Metroid 3DS is in development for 3DS

So why is she still writing?
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>>337703075
>>337703383

So you're basically Sony has monopolized the Japanese console market?
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Rumor has it the NX will be using an Nvidia pascal based SoC.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52119/nintendo-nx-powered-nvidia-tegra-processor-amd-chip/index.html
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>>337703716

That's only because of the difference in funding. Nintendo completely funded Bayo2 because the game wouldn't be made either way. Tomb Raider, Microsoft probably only paid enough to keep it off the PS4 as the game was going to be developed either way.

Basically, you're looking at things wrong.
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>>337703075
>mfw Minecraft has sold 1m copies on the Vita
>A microsoft game is selling on a Sony platform
>Xbox one still struggling.
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>>337698969
One time. It's happened one time where they released their console before. The Wii released after the 360, the GameCube came out after the ps2, and the n64 came out after the ps1.
And it wasn't three years. It only released a year earlier, admist rumors of the impending announcements of new consoles from their rivals. And Nintendo's philosophy as of late is to ignore the competition anyway.
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>>337704106
That alone tells you how things should go.
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>>337702967
what?

The best Nintendo games were the ones that were technologically advanced and new.

Hell, its obvious that its the common point even.

>Mario 3
>Mario World
>Mario 64
>Donkey Kong Country
>Ocarina of Time
>Wind Waker
>Mario Galaxy
>Yoshis Island
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>>337693874
EHO CARES!

YTou aren't going to buy it anyway. it could have PS7 graphics and people will still bitch and moan about mario and kiddie games, and "muh exclusives that should be on 'their' console"

and more bullshit

You already know what games its going to have. it doesn't need to be as powerful. Nintendo makes nintendo games. simple as that. you either want it or don't.
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>>337703769
Game Boy was released during a time when the NES was prominent. Hardware was all too similar and portable gaming had little competition other than Game Gear (practically a portable Master System that released later), Atari Lynx (dead on arrival, expensive, literally who games) and those Tiger Electronic games that left little to the imagination.

Game Boy walked away clean with that victory and rode the NES nostalgia train when it went color. The games and developer support was plentiful because the most you'd pay for a GB cart was $30 when SNES and Genesis titles had a range between 50 and 90 clams. There was a reason the system was prominent.
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>>337703336
>It seems to me that every fucking game on Nintendo consoles is a Nintendo 1st party game, and typically Mario and crew stuff
It's not that, it's that those are the most marketed games, and of course they are also the higher quality ones. Nintendo will make sure their first party comes first.

Thing is, Nintendos games are solid. Here's what I mean.

Yes, why the fuck play the new super mario bros?
It's the same shit, it's always been the same shit, why in gods name would you buy it again or play it again? Why wouldn't we get tired of it?

Because it's done right. That's why anon. Nintendo makes a mario platformer, and that's exactly what you fucking get. A good, Solid, mario platformer that controls and plays like you want it to. And it has a decent amount of content. It's hard to not like it, simply because it's done so fucking well.
Graphics are great.
Gameplay is great.
Controls are great, music is great. Everything is fucking great, the absolute only downside it's that it's Mario again, which you are tired of.

Yea, it's Zelda, Metroid, Mario etc again, for the 50 time. But god damn it, it'll be yet another solid game that you know will not be horrible, that you know will look and feel polished. They make solid as fuck games that just fucking work.
If Nintendo decided to make the new Elder Scrolls, it would be the best elder scrolls in terms of control and how solidified the world design is, in tangent to the gameplay and it's mechanics. That's a bet you can always take.

Nintendo's problem is however, that they never do anything beyond this because it's too risky.
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>>337704189
>Low heat
>Low power
>Performance
>ARM based
>No more PowerPC

It can go well provided they get third party support. ARM is a well known architecture compared to PowerPC.
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>>337703352That's not a good thing. We could have had Persona 5 years ago if it wasn't for the PS4. develop P5.

PS4 launched in 2013, 2014 in japan. Persona5 was announced for 2015, so waiting for the PS4 to release isn't a valid excuse since it was already out for a year.
Porting a PS3 game to PS4 takes almost no time at all, many other (much smaller) devs do it all the time, both PS3 and Vita titles, much nicher titles that don't sell a fraction of what P5 will and yet they easily ported their games to PS4.

>That's not a good thing. We could have had Persona 5 years ago if it wasn't for the PS4.
I don't own a PS3 so it's irrelevant for me. Even so I think they were busy with other side-projects and just underestimated the time they would take to fully develop P5


>Really, I'm pretty confident that if Nintendo tried a similar setup they would get slammed for it.
Zelda"U", which has been pushed back so much that they decided to be a NX launch title instead now that we are so close to it.
Hell, WiiU's zelda technical demo was shown before WiiU's launch, that's an entire generation's worth of cock teasing.

>>337703986
Are you living under a rock? It has happened ever since the PS1. As soon as there was a viable alternative to nintendo's strict policies and bullshit attitude devs jumped ship en masse.

If nintendo was still in its NES/SNES 3rd party golden age you'd see many more jap games on nintendo systems. 3DS still gets quite a few, but notice they mostly come from established bigger devs, the japanese indies and AA's make games for Vita, or when a company wants to promote their Anime with a shitty tie-in game it's almost always done on the Vita too

>>337704106
I still can't believe how much they fucked up. Closing studios left and right, changing studios for their major IPs (Forza is the ONLY one made by the same people). I had a xbox and a 360 but couldn't bring myself to buy a Xbone (especialy since it came 1 year after the PS4 in my country)
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>>337704651
>Persona5 was announced for 2015
2014. PS4 version delayed it by two years.

>Porting a PS3 game to PS4 takes almost no time at all
Only because each platform gets a dedicated team. Part of why WatchDogs Wii U was delayed was because they had to relocate that entire team to other areas to meet deadlines.
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>>337704207
>>Donkey Kong Country
Overrated. Taking snapshots of renders, converting shit to bitmaps and sprites did not make a case for power. The animations are fluid though.

Really, Rare was planning a game of similar visuals on Genesis but went with SNES because the color palette was favorable.
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>>337695846
>Nobody even have tvs that can play that

You can get really good 4k TV's for under $500

4k is becoming extremely popular and growing very fast. You're talking out of your ass when you say most people don't have them. It's obvious you probably live in a hick town somewhere.
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>>337693874

Ugh I hope this is not true. Getting real tired of Nintendo's shit

I just want to play a new fucking Metroid game, that's why I bought a Wii U. I don't want to drop more cash on an underpowered no games system again.
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>>337705081
Find a "really good 4k tv" for under $500


Protip: You can't
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>>337705081
>You're talking out of your ass when you say most people don't have them
they don't. most people have 1080i/p tvs.

you're the only one talking out of their ass.
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"mother 3 is coming to america, april 20th it will be announced!!!!!!!!! NVM ITS COMING AT E3... nVM ITS STILL COMING THO"
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>>337698102
>buying an entire console for a souls spinoff and uncharted
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>>337705206
>I just want to play a new fucking Metroid game, that's why I bought a Wii U.
How did that work out for you?
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Seriously, emily says shit all the time thats "verified by multiple people" ALL the time. Like Paper Mario? She said that shit EVERY year, I don't even believe her on anything anymore
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>>337705206
>a new fucking Metroid
metroid is probably done as an IP for nintendo.

their 3DS game is not even metroid and people hated it. so nintendo will just see it as "they don't want metroid I guess"

I'm surprised they even made a new starfox but thats only because of how well the 3DS port did. lol better hope the "metroid 3DS game does well.
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>>337704651
>Are you living under a rock? It has happened ever since the PS1.

...that's what I was implying, numbnuts.
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>>337705618
>She said that shit EVERY year
guys, there's going to be a new mario game. I verified it by multiple sources.
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>>337698485
It is impossible to say one is "superior." Due to ARM's simplicity it has great potential for upscaling and will likely surpass x86 in the long run. However x86 at the moment is simply faster. Once we reach the atom level on transistors, possibly even before as we reach the limits of our current manufacturing processes, ARM will surpass x86 but currently ARM is only more useful in situations where power usage is a concern.
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>>337705549
>buying consoles at all

at least sony/microsoft ones play most multiplatform games
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>>337698976
Not him, but ARM uses a RISC architecture, which is widely agreed to be superior to x86's CISC. That and power consumption are the two areas where ARM has the upper hand. There may be others eventually though.
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>>337704987
>Only because each platform gets a dedicated team.
Like I said, plenty of much smaller devs do it all the time. I don't see how Nights of Azure gets a quick port, or OdinSphere gets released on all 3 platforms. Or Digimon Cybersluts, GrandKingdom, etc etc

I highly doubt those smaller japanese AA devs have dedicated port teams

The only one time I've heard the "porting to PS4 is hard and takes years" excuse was in relation to Persona5. I simply can't see how that's the case.

Watchdogs is a complex, and still buggy as fuck, openworld game with a new engine and had to be ported on (by then) a new unkown system, the WiiU, as an afterthought. We now know many AAA WiiU ports faulter because a lot of devs had a hard time understanding it.
On the other hand I don't know of many PS4 ports that are shit. Even the laziest and smallest jap devs manage to get their PS3 or Vita game to run at 1080p60fps on the PS4

>>337705693
Didn't quite get the tone of your question, you might've not known, I dunno.
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>>337698026
with most of the projects getting canceled
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>>337706321
>I highly doubt those smaller japanese AA devs have dedicated port teams
Those devs don't qualify as AA.

And most studios are capable of doing that. Some just choose not to and make up excuses to cover for it.

Small studios like WayForward and Frozenbyte has shown the ability to develop for everything under the sun and that includes the Wii U. Meanwhile large studios pretended that the Wii U required them to cure cancer.

But it's whatever. We can simply pretend Nintendo peed in people's cheerios and deserved it. If they do better next time then it'll be better for everyone.
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>make a weak console
>don't support it at all, no main-series Mario, no Zelda, another shitty Paper Mario In Name Only game, etc
>sells like shit
>immediately shit out another one that's still weaker than the console that's already been on the market for years and has actual third party support upcoming

I've completely lost faith in Nintendo, only HAL still makes anything worthwhile at all.
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>>337694190
More like n64 5
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>>337707646
N64 and GC were stronger than the PS1 and PS2
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The NX handheld and the NX console are the SAME device.

They are just in different boxes. It is the same hardware. That's how development was unified but they still aren't making one hybrid device.
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>>337707469
>don't support it at all
You're terrible at selling shit.
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>>337706045
>ARM uses a RISC architecture, which is widely agreed to be superior to x86's CISC

Not really, no.

Honestly, this whole RISC vs. CISC thing is a bit of a crock. Everyone just does what they can to get the most efficient performance they can out of their chips given their applications and take whatever idea works without much concern about adhering to RISC or CISC like it's some sort of ideology.

ARM favors more RISC than CISC as it's more power efficient and is good for mobile computing. Intel favors CISC more than RISC because it generally results in more processing power.
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>>337708465
I'm not selling anything, just not buying the new console no matter what honeyed words Reggie whispers into our ears again. Aside from Splatoon it's been a fucking giant paperweight. It's as bad as the PS3 last decade.
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>>337708115
too bad their catalogue wasn't
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>>337693874
Can we have an actual source please? It's hilarious seeing people use Twitter/Reddit posts which contain "my sources are telling me", then see people believe it.
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>>337703268
I have a few guilty gears, but I can't get into them.
They're just not fun for me :(
At least Uncharteds keep my interested for a few hours, and 3 (i think) had that fun couch coop mode.
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The main reason why Nintendo cannot go x86 is because it's battery inefficient and incredibly expensive if they plan to release handhelds using x86 architecture.

By using ARM, this allows them to have handheld tech that is battery efficient and allows Nintendo to easily put 3DS games on them without any issues. Since Nintendo is going for a shared architecture between handheld and console, they cannot simply just use x86 for console and Arm for handhelds as it will increase the amount of work they will do if they have the same game on both platform. The only compromise they can do is using ARM. ARM today is extremely powerful and are currently at around Wii U level and for Nintendo they will find that amount of power perfectly adequate.
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I don't even care, I just bought a Wii U for Smash. Bayonetta 2 ended up being the best purchase I made for that piece of shit hardware. Of course some good games would have been nice but I don't regret buying it.
The NX won't have any games that would make me buy it, I'm just waiting for the PS4.5 to be released so I can catch up on some of the games I missed so far and also be excited for upcoming releases again.
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>>337706321
because Japanese games are designed for the PS3 and Vita and the PS4 is so massively more powerful that it cant help but be 1080p 60 fps. Also japanese devs have no issue porting to the three platforms because sony's dev kits are so advanced that it's essentially just a mouseclick to export to all three versions without much work.

If they do it on other platforms, it would require a ton more work to do whereas Sony's tools are so mature that it doesn't take a small japanese studio much manpower to port to different platforms.
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>>337710321
They've been using ARM in their handhelds since GBA, so for that hardware it isn't even an issue.

It's when they use it in consoles where I start to worry.

>>337710586
You're talking out of your ass. Stop.
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Who the fuck buys a wii u as their sole way of playing vidya ?
You buy one to play your nintendo shit on it
3rd party is useless so power doesnt fucking matter
i'll be probably skipping the nx if its region locked again
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>>337705594

How do you fucking think

After Metroid Prime 3 and the Prime Trilogy disc I was absolutely certain they wouldn't skip over and entire generation of consoles with no Metroid content.

Boy do I regret thinking that, fuck my life
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>>337710708
The handheld and the console are the exact same hardware. They are just in different boxes.
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>>337710815
Metroid's dead, they ignored Metroid's anniversary while hugely celebrating their other franchises.
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A handheld nearly as powerful as the ps4 that can be taken anywhere and then connect to TV at home for seamless 5k Nintendo ip gaming sounds like the future op.
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>>337693874
When and where the fuck did this person leak Paper Splash?
I never heard anyone mention her upon the reveal
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>>337711012
>A handheld nearly as powerful as the ps4 that can be taken anywhere and then connect to TV at home
You just described the Vita.
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>>337711012
>5k
Stop.
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>>337711012
It's not nearly as powerful as the PS4.

The hardware is exactly the same for the handheld and the console. They are just in different physical cases. One has an integrated screen and buttons, the other comes with a controller and connects to your television.

The hardware inside the boxes is identical.
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>>337702992
Dude if you're on 4chan complaining about Millennials, you're either disturbingly old to be wasting your time here, too young to actually post here, or you are actually a Millennial yourself and you actually have no idea what that means.
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>>337704032

Bayo 2 was in pre-production, Sega cancelled their funding but let Platinum offer to various companies. Nintendo took it. Microsoft opted to offer Platinum a new IP instead. Tomb Raider was about to be canceled and Square approached Sony and MS about it. MS agreed to fund it in exchange for timed exclusivity and a cut of the profits. MS also bailed out Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall from cancellation for exclusivity and profit cut. Nintendo bailed out Devil's Third.

You are looking at things wrong as well, m8. Most of the 3rd party exclusives were cancelled or production hell games the companies picked up to bolster their libraries.

Exclusives are a cancerous concept in the first place, though.
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>>337698210
I didn't buy as N64 because my best friend had one and my parents had got me a PS1. I had a Gamecube and PS2 and a Wii and PS3 and 360. As well as DS, 3DS and original PSP.
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>>337698210
>why didn't you buy a 64
But I did, and I missed out on the golden era v2 of JRPGs and Castlevania SotN.
At leat there was Ogre Battle 64 I guess.
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>>337711891
>Tomb Raider was about to be canceled
It wasn't. The previous one had did well enough for them that the sequel was greenlit right away. They even had the fund to release a Linux version this year.
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She claimed we'd get Mother 3 this year but that never happened
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>>337714259

It was almost cancelled. Crystal Dynamics was running out of funding and Square was unsure if they should burn more money on the project, which is why they took exclusivity offers to Sony and MS. If neither picked it up, the project was going to be shitcanned. Sony turned it down and MS picked it up.

Also

>4 years late port of old game
>Making Linux relevant
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>>337693874
>reddit rumor
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I read a rumor that it was gonna have a Tegra GPU (the ones nVidia uses for their android devices), unless that was just for the handheld version I would be pretty disappointed.
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>>337715383
Tegra has been rumored since the original 3ds. Its going to be PowerVR on handhelds and AMD on consoles forever
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>>337701345
The Wii not only had a god tier library that rivaled PS2 in terms of quality it also vastly outsold the other two. It clearly won its generation. Talk shit about WiiU if you want but the Wii more than proved itself.
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>>337714793
except it will. this year isn't over yet
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>>337698210
Notice how the 64 and Gamecube had shit media that made nearly all third party pack their bags? Nintendo needs a powerful console with no shit propiotary media holding it down. The combination of Nintendo first party and strong third party games made the SNES win.
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>>337694648
Wouldn't that be fucking retarded? Who would want to play handheld games that are designed to be seen upclose on a small screen (and Knowing Nintendo their next handheld may well not even be 720p) on a big screen?
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>>337709385
Savage.
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>>337698969
The Wii U released on 2012. 7 years after the 360 and 6 years after the PS3. And it beat both of them but by small margins considering the amount of time between releases. The PS4/XBone released just 1 year later than the Wii U and both completely destroy the poor thing in raw power.

Nintendo doesn't release their shit earlier by that much margin they just think that releasing earlier is the key to gaining market support which is bullshit.
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>>337699080
Gamecube release was like 15 years ago anon, it isn't a case of "look it was yesterday that Nintendo released a non shit tier hardware console!"... 15 fucking years ago.
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>>337693874
>literally nothing out about the console save for that it exists
>rumor threads
Next you'll post a blurry sideways picture of what the console looks like.
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>>337700693
>From what I hear that's not really the problem, Sony and Microsoft don't really do much to help anyone who isn't first party developer either.
You are shitting right?
They both even have dedicated development teams to work on 3rd party games and provide support for 3rd party devs.
Santa Monica, Japan Studio, hell a big majority of MS studios and probably many more.
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>>337715952
>>337701345
>The Wii not only had a god tier library that rivaled PS2 in terms of quality

As a Nintendo fan, I call bullshit.
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>>337698485
>The arm architecture is superior to x86
Not when it comes time for getting-in on MS and Sony's multiplats
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>>337698678
Because they don't. The only games that could be compared is Smash, which is a fighting game that doesn't need to render great amount of locations or anything at all so it can push for better character models and lighting and push 1080p 60fps. But then again compare it to other fighting games or sport games and you see that some of the games pushing a similar output on PS4/PC/XB1 will never be replicated on Wii U.

I agree with you that Nintendo usually takes advantage of their hardware like no other developer does but MS and Sony have studios that do the same for the PS4 and XB1 that make games that would never run on Wii U hardware.
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>>337716416
At this point you shouldn't be expecting smart ideas from Nintendo anymore. Its like they think they are the only people in the gaming industry.
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>And is the most credible source
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Everything about Emily's personality says that she doesn't give a flying fuck if you believe her or not. She just tells everyone what she hears from her game industry friends because she knows we want to know shit in advance. You'd do the same thing
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>>337719173
Non-disclosure agreements exist for a reason. You could go to court over that shit.
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I'm really starting to question why Nintendo is even in the hardware business still. The way they're headed they would be better off going in the same direction as Sega and just becoming a software company, hell they'd probably be better off.

Is it a crazy to imagine Zelda on Playstation or PC? No more than Sonic during its height.
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