4X games thread.
What's your favorite 4X games?
>>337678181
Since I have only played Alpha Centauri years ago and Stellaris recently, I would sayAC
Only one answer.
>>337678181
Sword of the stars.
>You will never sail through the mists of nodespace
>You will never smell something sweet and realize it is the beasts of that dimension lurking nearby
>You will never get your nervous system overloaded with energy as these gaseous beasts devour your ships fusion core as well as draw energy from all crew members/kill them for fun with electric shocks
>>337678181
Aurora
I've only really played Distant Worlds (unless CK2 counts) and I love the scale. Is there a 4x game with a bigger world that's not too resource intensive?
Probably Star Ruler for the sheer amount of insanity it allows.
I think the most fun I had was putting thrusters and orbital cannons on several planets of mine and slowly moving them accross the galaxy towards the enemy home system as one giant deathball. That was pretty late game though and I already had a ringworld to fuel my economy.
Come to think of it, destroying planets or stars is great, too - works even for black holes but those take too much of the galaxy with them once they pop.
Distant Worlds would be my second most favourite 4X but the broken balance and awful UI ruin the fun in the long run.
>>337678767
>Is there a 4x game with a bigger world that's not too resource intensive?
Bigger world that what? DW? Probably not.
>>337678181
Currently pretty into endless space.
I never pick up 4X games unless they are really on sale since they can be so hit or miss.
![Sword-of-the-Stars-Entry-4.mp4_snapshot_30.23_2016.01.10_17.26.49[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/28jcS7C.jpg "Sword-of-the-Stars-Entry-4.mp4_snapshot_30.23_2016.01.10_17.26.49[1].jpg")
>>337678652
>Nice colony you've got there, shame if someone yelled at it.
>>337678181
High impact asteroid violence.
AI War: Fleet Command.
>All dem space games
What about land-based 4x?
>>337679718
there are non-space 4x?
who even cares
Why are they called 4X games? What do they have to do with forks?
>>337679839
expand explore exploit exterminate
>>337678767
see
>>337678728
You decide yourself how big the galaxy is
>>337679718
Civ
Endless Legend
Warlock
Age of Wonder
Any good resources for learning DW: Universe with absolutely no automation? When I think about automating anything it just kills the idea of it for me. Combat and defense just end up fucking me generally.
>>337679481
>Manual battle against it
>Had set combat timer to max
Mistakes were made.
>>337678181
I don't understand why anyone would enjoy Endless Space.
>>337679718
Easy, Civ IV is the best one and it looks like that's not going to change any time soon.
>>337679481
>A ship shitposts in planets orbit for several hours
>Planet rebels against the empire
>The righteous need not cower before the drumbeat of human progress. Though the song of yesterday fades into the challenge of tomorrow, God still watches and judges us. Evil lurks in the datalinks as it lurked in the streets of yesteryear. But it was never the streets that were evil.
>>337678652
>KK missiles
For what purpose?
The one and only time I used them, they pushed the target ship so far up/down I couldn't even see them on sensors.
>>337680819
Let's Play on YT.
>>337681075
>round based
>good
pick one
>>337678652
Is it better than the sequel?
>>337681370
While assaulting a planet they can be pretty neat.
>Enemy fleet races towards you from planets direction
>They get hit by a barrage of KK missiles
>Fly backwards and crash upon the planet
What does 4X mean? I thought it was axis but there's only 3 of them, discounting time
>>337682489
It would be a struggle to be worse.
Endless space has fantastic setting, music and visuals, and feel the factions are slick and well done, but rather poor gameplay.
I wanted to love it so much, but found it so hard.
Hoping it gets and endless legend style re-do.
>>337679481
Sword of the Stars is underrated as fuck, probably because of shitty Deviant Art artwork.
>Stellaris makes a big deal about robot rebellion as one of end game situations
>in SotS it's literally just one of possible consequences of delving into AI research
I also never realized how much I loved and hated randomized tech trees before.
>>337683121
They're working on the sequel right now.
>>337683202
>TFW you can't get point defense research.
HAHA TIME FOR EXTINCTION.
>>337682953
eXplore, eXpand, eXterminate... And something else. It means "civ-like" really.
>>337683346
dick rising
I actually knew this but completely forgot, wew thanks led, that's really put a shine on my day
>>337683121
I hope you didnt post this picture because you legitimately thought it was funny
>>337683346
I'm looking forward to SEMICIRCLES vs SQUARES discussions.
>>337683431
I saved it months ago when black twitter shit was still taking off and this was legit funny
>>337683385
eXploit famalampai
>>337678603
The first one is better, though.
>>337683953
Combat, yeah.
Is stellaris any good? I've been itching for a space 4x for a while.
>>337684153
Bare-bone and simple as all fuck.
>>337678181
Alpha Centauri, I just love the setting, I also really liked the design workshop, it wasn't too complicated, but there was enough special crap so you could make some fun stuff, for example:
>orbital drop hover tanks
>chemical weapons airplanes
>stealth seeformer for sinking those coastal cities covertly
>>337683346
>Sophons getting featured in large quantities
Yuck.
Automatons, Sowers, and Sheredyn best factions. Vaulters can come too.
>>337684213
but its fun
>>337684153
Its the kindergarten equivalent of 4X games.
Its fun, simple, and leaves you wanting for more.
>>337684153
It's ok, better wait a few years until parajews release a complete version that includes the +50 DLCs it will get, so you can enjoy a complete game without paying a small fortune.
>>337681275
>Spartans
Does no 4X game have proper AI that gangs up on those who do best? No 4X I've played, Endless series, Civ, Distant Worlds, Stellaris, SoaSE or whatever have had AI that realizes if one faction is doing clearly better than the others and thus create alliances in order to survive.
Doesn't just apply to military conquests either. Pretty much every 4X match ends up being
>initial expansion
>kick your immediate neighbors' ass
>now you have the greatest military / economic / production / science / culture / whatever capacity in the game
>no AI touches you because they're too scared to do it alone, but too stupid to form alliances
>hit end turn and micro cities once in a while until your chosen victory condition becomes available
>>337686187
I heard from Stellaris players that AI do ganged up on them if they're really powerful.
>>337686187
Stellaris does that, the weak empires gang up together and form a Federation in my game, hilariously called "The Harmonious League", a bunch of pacifist empires protecting each other from the big bullies.
And in the future, Stellaris is still the one that is gonna have all the shit you want, Conclave in CK2 added defensive pacts against big bullies, its only a matter of time until Paradox fixes the AI in Stellaris to be just like CK2.
Stellaris AI is way too passive for its own good.
>>337686187
Why would you not play against other players?
>>337684839
>no horatio
>failing AI research in Sword of the Stars
Immediately apologize to any other human players in your game. You fucked up real hard.
>>337686307
>>337686410
Too bad the whole game is unplayable boring piece of shit.
>>337686562
Friends don't like 4X or don't have the time for long matches. How alive are CiV and EL multiplayer?
>>337683458
>You'll never deploy your fleet in a semicircle like a tactical genius
>>337684576
>civilization took of instead of alpha centauri
life ain't fair
>>337687012
>pansy democratic semicircles beating glorious autocratic rectangles
>>337681275
I love alpha centauri but the AI is fucking atrocious. At lower difficulties its as if the enemy factions are suicidal and at the highest two difficulties they are just given such an enormous production bonus that fighting them is really tedious.
>>337687012
Can you explain this meme?
AoW Shadow Magic was probably the one i spent most time on
all those fucking races to play and i loved some of the magic interactions with the map
>frostwalk on Doomwolf
>end turn near giant lake
>tiles around unit turn to ice
>can create a bridge of ice and open up a new path of attack for your units
>all those domain spells that changed the terrain
AoW 3 was pretty good but even with the nice new class system the big drop in playable races was a bummer
>>337687012
that's not a fair representation, to be honest. fpa uses semi circles as trump card, but empire has layered defense. not to mention important battles usually employ varied strategies.
Battlefront II
/thread
>>337687445
They've been steadily adding new races with expansions, though.
>>337687592
>>337687650
has there been one since the Necromancer was added?
which was a cool addition, had some nice different mechanics to the other classes
>>337683346
I really hope they don't fuck up this time.
Endless space would have been great if not the completely fuckign retarded combat system and the fact AI could outproduce your entire empire with only their last planet.
Endless legend pumped up my hopes massively since it's much better.
>>337687125
>Entrusting the fate of humanity to a blonde brat's blocks
>>337687475
It doesn't help that Yang was one of the few competent leaders in the Alliance while the Empire had dozens of talented leaders.
>>337687425
Just watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's only 180 episodes and most of it is people drinking wine or tea and chatting about incredibly complex fictional political intrigue.It's exactly as great as it sounds.
>>337688327
>Letting your nation be run by power hungry and corrupt politicians
https://bakabt.me/torrent/163344/ginga-eiyuu-densetsu-legend-of-the-galactic-heroes-bd-720p
Don't bother trying to download this if you use a new version of utorrent, this site filters out the plebian torrent users.
>>337688458
>Implying Trunicht did anything wrong
>Repeating the mistakes of the Goldenbaum dynasty
>>337682489
Yes.
By the virtue of working.
>>337688517
>not the NemDiggers version
>>337688590
>Implying Trunicht did anything wrong
He did.he got shot by Rhuental
>>337686946
yeah probably why it's the 6th most played Steam game
I really like AoW 3. No one just wants to ever talk about it.
>Skeleton dragon takes over friend's city
>Skeleton dragon immediately wants to join with my empire instead
>>337688658
>pleb retard getting shit hardsub re-encodes
Yeah, it's not NemDiggers version for good reason.
>>337688740The low quality yellow subs are iconic and aesthetically tied to the show
>>337688839
Version I linked has yellow subs you thundercunt
>>337688698
Because there's not that much strategy in it beyond pumping out T4s.
>>337688663Don't remind me.
>>337688332
I want to but I just cant. That part of my life is behind me now. I pretty much cant commit to or enjoy anything anymore.
>>337688663
That was one beautiful arc.
>>337689274
OTP
Is endless legends any good?
Im tired if civ and I want to play something new
How does it hold up compared to civ games?
>>337689274
>Mittermeyer, you're late.
>>337689442
>Is endless legends any good?
Yes.
>How does it hold up compared to civ games?
It's more like Age of Wonders meets Civilization.
>>337678181
All these kind of these, total war and civ type games seriously bore me.
The pacing is so slow.
>>337689860
thanks for posting in the 4X thread to inform everyone you don't like 4X
What went wrong?
>>337687012
You realize it's based off of Napoleonic battles, right?
>>337690352
Not much. It has some pacing issues, but it took them forever to get it to Legendary Heroes edition which is actually good. I think the original Elemental: War of Magic was more ambitious, but barely worked.
>each characters had a genetics makeup based on his ancestor's races
>marrying different characters throughout the game affected what children they would get through algorithm
I have a feeling people would have a blast with cuck memes and whatnot these days. Shame features got lost along the way in order to make more focused and stable games.
>>337690352
Fallen Enchantress has a very messy feel to it. It's like a load of concepts and features slapped together with no attempt to actually link them.
