So, is it better than TF2 or nah?
>>337674690
Post the animated version, you dumb nerd.
>>337674690
Better than what TF2 is now
There's also no spy equivalent or random crits so it might also be better than tf2 at launch
>>337674690
Pros
>no bronies
>no furries
>no autists
>no Hues
>no Russians
>Blizz has come out saying cheaters get perma banned on the first offense - no excuses
>easy to jump into
Cons
>Light on content on day 1 although they plan to add in more characters and maps
>No private servers
still don't understand why they compare these games, they're nothing alike.
Anyone have any Overwatch feet? Mostly D.Va please!!
>>337674690
mooom look! I posted the picture again!
fuck off
>>337674829
You say that but as a brony, furry autist, BRBR/Russo fag, I have to say you're wrong
>>337674690
I certainly have a lot more fun with it than i've had with TF2 for a loooooong time.
It's roughly the same game with a different paint of coat. Some things are improved and some are the opposite. Ultimates give it a MOBA feel but TF2 has a bit more depth. Artstyle is subjective.
I want Widowmaker to shit in my mouth
>no hats
>no bronies
it's already better
>>337674690
Why did you make yet one more thread when there are already about 3 or 4 up?
Dumb hehewaifu Blizzdrones.
>>337674924
>no hats
but it has tons of cosmetic items?
>>337674829
>light on content
>Overwatch has double the maps TF2 had at launch and over double the characters
>>337674957
>tons
compare it to tf2, plus they're full skins
>>337674924
>overwatch
>$60
>no private servers
>customization is shitty skins
>TF2
>free
>lodes of custom weapons, hats, and gear
I want Blizzdrones to leave
I would say nah just because of no community anything
This game needs custom maps, real fucking bad
>>337674905
Man that's such a weird angle. Not really flattering as well. How did she get the bear's number?
>>337675018
are you implying that being free is good
>>337675018
That picture only confirms the fact that ow is better at the skin part
It requires less aim and movements, but if you enjoy that then I guess you would like it. People who enjoy quake and tf2 won't have much fun in OW
>>337674997
so its specifically hats that are bad? not cosmetic items?
And of course it has less, its not even out. Blizzard will steadily release new ones though.
>>337674981
It's been so long I don't remember what maps/modes TF2 launched with. Still, TF2 had the ability to make maps and have private servers with new fan made maps on day 1.
I like Overwatch and pre-ordered it, but its longevity relies on Blizz adding content at a reasonable pace
>>337674690
awww dude look at that butt my boner is so hard right now!
i want to have sex with her doggystyle dude
>>337675095
tf2 updates now only consists of retarded hats that don't fit the artstyle
>>337675018
First off it's 40 bucks
Also are you seriously complaing that Overwatch doesnt let you put on a fedora with neon green flames hovering around it?
>>337675181
TF2 is almost 10 years old.
>>337675018
>thinks the game is 60$
>lists free as an advantage because he can't judge if a game is worth anything
>argues with cosmetic content
>probably thinks bastion is op
I want poorfags to leave.
>>337675256
What stops them from making another tf, then ? Instead of releasing hats after hatsvalve
>>337674690
It's easier and has a lower skill ceiling than TF2.
Somehow it out-casuals TF2.
>>337675345
>Valve can make guaranteed money by releasing a sequel any of their fucking games
>instead spend time and money on failed hardware endeavor after failed hardware endeavor
Fucking sell your IP's at least if you never plan to make a game again.
>>337675102
Of the few maps at launch were 2fort and dustbowl, hands down the worst maps in the game
Also custom maps is nice but its nearly impossible to find a server actually running any that arent trade minecraft/brony ERP whatever
>>337675465
mei player detected
>>337675095
hats aren't really the main problem.
the problem was that the playerbase shifted, and became more about idling items, trading hats and WEAPONS and about making money.
it wasn't about playing TF2 anymore.
Overwatch has no trading and skins can be obtained by just playing the game, it's perfect that way.
>>337674690
it's different.
but yes it's a more fun game than TF2 is right now, with a much brighter future.
>>337674829
>>no bronies
>>no furries
>>no autists
People can't be this delisional.
>>337674690
Keep it in one thread you fucking underaged summerfag.
Why is this still happening?
It's different game. Only genre is similar and it's where similarity ends.
>>337675610
While they might be there in Overwatch, they can't spam their Rainbow Dash sprays all over the server or have a server where everyone uses pony skins
>>337675610
what the fuck is delisional
and no, Haven't seen any autist during the beta btw, maybe it will change but there's no sprays so rejoice
>>337675494
blizz shill detected
enjoy your press Q to win and press shift to rocket jump gameplay
>>337675627
it's the shills, anon
>>337675684
oh yeah, and the classes are not direct cut and pastes from tf2 at all
>>337675778
I will
>>337675627
>people want to talk about a popular, current game
I know it's disgusting right? What we need are more e-celeb and LOL threads, maybe a political drama thread or two for good measure
>>337675684
>cartooney art style
>both healing classes using a healing beam gun pretty much working the same.
>demoman also has equivalent
and the world is just sad to see what TF2 has become, and now we get a spiritual successor.
it's like systemshock 2 to Bioshock.
different in name, slightly different, still a pretty good non-sequel sequel.
>>337675814
I must have missed the update where they gave the demo a beartrap
>>337675814
I forgot that the demoman could lay bear traps and explosive wheels
>tf2 invented explosion classes
>>337675814
Have you ever once played TF2? The physics between both games is night and day.
>>337675835
Nice strawman. Purge the e-celebs along with every Overwatch thread over 1.
You are bumping vidya off page 10 with your shitposting just as much e-celeb cancer does. Or better yet, go walk a Trail of Tears to /vg/ and stay there.
>hate match making
>try OW beta
>set region to North America
>everyone speaks/types in English
>when I was level 1-9 all my teammates and opponents were levels 1-20
>get up to level 10 and teammates and opponents are level 1-30 generally with a fair mix
I hope that keeps up when the game releases. I've played games with matchmaking tossing in people from halfway around the world and way too high or low a level
>>337675814
Well, blizcock obviously copied like they always do. I'm not even surprised. What I'm saying is comparing OW with TF2 is very stupid. One is hyper-fps while other one is casul one.
>>337675814
Junkrat, Tobjorn, Mercy, and Pharah are the only ones that are cut from TF2.
Everything else is only vaguely similar or completely different. Mei is only like the Pyro in that she has a M1 beam weapon. Zarya is the furthest thing from the Heavy, Bastion's turret form is more like the Heavy. Tracer is only similar to Scout in playstyle. There's no Spy equivalent, either.
But even then, Overwatch is more like a first person MOBA than a straight TF2 clone.
>>337675475
Are you stupid?
There's almost no reason to release sequels for games of Valve's current business model.
They are either free to play or have a low cost, and provide them more income through microtransactions than they could ever hope to make through simply selling copies of a sequel.
They're already making guaranteed money while spending nearly nothing and taking no risks.
>>337675992
well the level in overwatch only represents experience and play time, not actual level of skill.
i hope they have some background number determined by player performance.
>>337676059
>hyper-fps
what the fuck am i reading?
>>337676059
I hope for my sanity that tf2 isn't the casual fps one in your mind.
>>337675018
>overwatch
>$40
>cheat-controlled servers
>customisation has just begun and already skins look pretty good
>tf2
>burnt out and dead
>f2p so hackers/cheaters just need a new account to continue hacking
>BRs, Ruskis, general 3rd worlders everywhere
>shitty looking hats with HURR LOOK IT SPARKLES effects slapped on to make them "rare"
sounds great.
>>337676112
Okay maybe saying TF2 is hyper-fps is very wrong.
I just hope that OW never goes F2P.
That was the beginning of the end of TF2.
>>337676097
>Overwatch is more like a first person MOBA than a straight TF2 clone
stop spouting bullshit
it has nothing in common with a moba except for Ultimates.
>no lanes
>no creeps
>no towers
>no shops
>no leveling
nothing like that.
while it has everything in common with TF2
>hurr durr TF2 doesn't have abilitys like overwatch.
and yet it does.
Jarate, Scouts baseball stun, pyro M2, Buff Banner all that shit is cooldown based. basically being a Ability in Overwatch.
I had a good time in the beta and it has some of my favourite character designs.
>>337676097
Hanzo: Huntsman sniper
WM:sniper
you forgot these cancer characters.
Overwatch is basically a casual tf2. They take any sort of advanced movement mechanics that tf2 has and then just bind it so shift or ctrl.
Bad movement with ultimates = casual game.
>>337676295
>Jarate, Scouts baseball stun, pyro M2, Buff Banner all that shit is cooldown based. basically being a Ability in Overwatch.
JUST
item=/= skills.
>>337676332
>play Zenyatta
>throw orb of discord at enemy tank
>teammates focus on everyone else but the tank
Maybe they need to make the orb a giant flashing neon sign instead
>>337674924
you do realize the bronies will swap over to Overwatch?
>>337676462
you might be actually retarded if you don't see the similarity.
>>337676295
You play heroes instead of classes.
You have hotkeys instead of items/weapons.
You have ultimates.
Saying "nothing in common" is blatantly false. I never said it WAS a MOBA, I said it was LIKE a MOBA. Some concepts are clearly inspired by it. It's not a straight TF2 clone, so calling it one is wrong.
>Jarate, Scouts baseball stun, pyro M2, Buff Banner all that shit is cooldown based. basically being a Ability in Overwatch.
Alternate weapons and items aren't abilities. Having a cooldown doesn't make them the same.
>>337676372
I didn't forget Widowmaker, since having a generic "Sniper" class isn't anything you can attribute to TF2. Even then, TF2 Sniper doesn't have a grappling hook, and has a shitty SMG instead of an assault rifle.
I did forget Hanzo.
>>337676498
That didn't particularly bother me because even Zen by himself destroys tanks at long range with a discord orb.
>>337676498
I played only attack or defense class. Is Zenyatta available?
>>337676501
>bronies having disposable income to buy OW after buying the latest Fluttershy plushie
lel
>>337675018
>$60
it's $40, $35 with g2a code
and how hypocritical of you to add a picture which was originally made to bash on tf2 for having meme skins
kek @ u
>Overwatch
- $40 bucks
- 12 maps
- Very few gameplay modes
- No modding
- No dedicated servers
- Mediocre visual design
- Levels design is pretty lackluster
- Gameplay is extremely dumbed down
+ No trading bullshit (yet)
+ More classes
+ Waifus
>Hat Fortress 2
+ Free
+ Hundreds of official and unofficial maps
+ Dozens of gameplay modes
+ Mods
+ Dedicated servers
+ Fantastic visual design
+ Excellent level design
- Gameplay is fairly simple and easy (not as much as Overwatch)
- Trading and hat bullshit
- Less classes
- No playable waifus
>>337676295
>while it has everything in common with TF2
Except TF2 has community-ran servers, a modding scene, a completely different physics engine, lacks a "press Q to murder everyone" button, etc. You will never see anything like custom maps, which now make up the bulk of the official maps in TF2 and are by far the best maps in the game. You also probably won't be seeing community-made game modes like Saxton Hale, Prop Hunt, SOAP DM, etc.
>>337676656
>press 2 and LMB instead of just E or LSHIFT
>WOW DUDE TOTALLY NOT THE SAME BRO
come the fuck on man.
heroes and classes is just different marketing, like using the term MOBA instead of Dota-like
ofcourse Overwatch was inspired by Mobas, however it turns out TF2 did all these things before MOBAs were big.
if i made a class based shooter in 2016 i would try to appeal to the Dota and League crowd as well.
>>337676501
let's hope bronies don't have the money for Overwatch, they also don't get to use custom sprays so they can't spread their religion.
>>337676872
>- No playable waifus
Mods fix that
>>337675684
>It's different game
It's literally a TF2 clone.
>>337674829
>no Russians
im sorry anon, im a russian and I've pre-ordered it
>>337676589
What similarity? Are you seriously thinking item is skill? is fucking HE grenade in CS GO is skill? IS that what you're saying?
Why are TF2fags so butthurt? Can't they just go play their game in peace, and stop crying?
>b-but muh game 'innovated' this style of play!
>>337676994
the grenades in CSGO aren't cooldown based.
if they were then yes i would consider that a skill.
>>337676984
Get out of my cs go
RRRREEEEEE
>>337676097
>Overwatch is more like a first person MOBA than a straight TF2 clone.
Blizzard made a huge miscalculation by releasing the game at the same time as Battleborn since that completely destroyed that line of defense.
Battleborn is not a good game by any measure but it's actually first person moba, unlike Overwatch which is just a glorified Team Fortress rip-off.
>>337676917
>heroes and classes is just different marketing, like using the term MOBA instead of Dota-like
Except when you have 21 fucking heroes with more heroes coming it's obvious it's a completely different design philosophy than classes.
If you designed a game with classes you would have only a few classes that each fulfill a unique role, overwatch has several overlapping characters all fulfilling the same roles.
>>337674829
>>no bronies
>>no furries
>>no autists
>>no Hues
>>no Russians
These are lies
>>Blizz has come out saying cheaters get perma banned on the first offense - no excuses
This is something you shouldn't believe
>>easy to jump into
This isn't something positive
>>337676872
>Overwatch
>no dedicated servers
How is this possible? Does one of the players host the game or something?
>>337676937
>No playable waifus
>Mods fix that
Forgot about that, Saxton Hale is literally the perfect husbando.
>>337677212
yea i host everything
>>337674957
but it doesn't have a retarded marketplace built around selling fake hats for real money and exploiting dumb kids
valve is literally evil
>>337677212
There is dedicated servers but they are fully run by Blizzard. What I meant is that there are no community-run dedicated servers.
>>337677212
I hosted like 650 servers the other day, it was very funNNNn!
>>337677212
no, all the severs are blizzard servers basically.
what the guy meant was that you can't rent/setup your own server, play 90s europop and run minecraft maps on it.
>>337677212
It's p2p and it's old as sin, I remember when people got buttblasted over MW being p2p.
>>337675018
>lodes
>>337677063
>why people compare this game with the game it's ripping off
Gee I wonder why. It's like if someone made a Call of Duty clone and then pretended it was a completely different type of game.
>>337677073
FUCK. Can't think about excuses. Maybe this time you fucking won.
>>337677308
Overwatch Skins will be purchasable.
>>337674690
Only similarity is both being asymmetric shooters with classes.
I like OW more because Valve is really shitty.
TF2
>free
>bugged as fuck
>full of shitty design decisions
>shitty hitboxes
>shitty animations
>ugly as fuck cosmetics
>children
OW
>shitty cosmetics (though fewer than in tf2)
>ults like high noon retains charge even if interrupted
TF2 is for gay homos who enjoy sausage fest characters
>>337677529
t. my booyhole
>>337677337
>run minecraft maps on it
/v/'s minecraft server for TF2 was pretty based.
>>337677212
You can host games, but you won't get experience progress or Hero play time for games played hosted on a non-Blizzard server, which is incredibly fucking dumb.
>>337677529
you can purchase lootboxes, no confirmation on buying skins directly.
also the trading between players was the problem, not the pay for cosmetics thing in general.
>>337677501
it's alright man, let's just enjoy videogames and forget about redundant discussions.
>>337677532
>children
Like OW is free with those fuckers.
>>337677532
>being this obvious
>>337677553
http://blizzardwatch.com/2016/02/09/overwatch-unveils-new-cosmetic-progression-skins/
>These skins are currently acquired from Loot Boxes, which can be both purchased for real money and gained as a reward for leveling up your account in the vein of Heroes of the Storm.
>>337677553
Can someone explain the t. to me?
I've seen it pop up for weeks now and I can't figure out what the fuck its supposed to mean.
>>337677751
>I've seen it pop up for weeks now and I can't figure out what the fuck its supposed to mean.
It's a /pol/ meem that has gone out of control.
>>337677693
Okay but no one at blizzard has said that. Some dude who wrote an article said that.
>>337677480
You didn't create the game, why act so butthurt on their behalf?
Besides, they should be flattered, since they're so innovative, they LITERALLY created all the elements that are "stolen"
I swear, TF2fags are worse than Soulsfags.
>>337675297
>thinks poorfags play TF2
>doesn't know that I have a strange professional killstreak golden frying
>>337677684
You're right dude shit.
You can only handle so much shit from a game.
Tell me why those reasons I don't like TF2 are wrong instead.
>>337677652
€40 will filter a lot of them out, I feel.
>>337677951
>Besides, they should be flattered
Wow, not even trying dude?
>>337677787
Yea I just googled it. I had no idea it was from that AoEII expansion shitpost.
>>337674690
No community content or support, so no.
>>337674690
When will people stop comparing this game and TF2?
Overwatch is more like MNC or any other ARTS than TF2
>>337677962
get out with that gold meme.
>>337677951
Valve is probably happy about others trying to copy TF2, although most developers fail at imitating some of the fundamental elements that make TF2 great.
But for a player is really obvious when something is just a half-assed copy of something else, it's not something that can be ignored. Overwatch has some neat ideas but the execution is pretty lacking, I would have preferred to see Titan rather than see the scraps.
>>337678035
what movie is that from
>>337677650
I try to imagine that each joystick also controls two robotic dildos that are built into her tight pantsu. That's why she is so unstoppable inside the mecha.
>>337675018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
>>337678035
Yes, they should be "flattered". Since TF2 literally created everything that's in Overwatch, not only that, but just about every other shooter apparently. TF2 was just one of those super innovative games that created everything, how can anyone else even compete?
>>337677962
>professional killstreak golden frying pan
How many thousands of dollars cost that?
>>337678150
Troy I think.
>>337677818
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-02-17-selling-loot-boxes-and-the-trouble-with-ranked-play-blizzard-on-overwatch
>Now as it stands, the loot packs are unlocked with each level. But, it does look like you're thinking about selling them as well, although I know that hasn't been confirmed. Are you going to, and how would it work?
>Jeff Kaplan: We were running the progression system internally for about two months before the beta came back and one of the things we saw a demand for was: "hey, this is really cool, but I'd also like to be able to buy these loot boxes". So that's something which we're very open to and it's very likely to be in the game in the future.
>>337678105
but MNC was TF2 with minions lanes and towers.
remove lanes and towers and you have TF2. wich is just like overwatch.
>>337678017
>only 600 hours
What a faggot. I bet you started playing a couple of years ago.
>>337678239
>blizcock is fucking ripping off TF2
>Valve should be flattered!
What are you, fucking gay?
>>337678105
>When will people stop comparing this game and TF2?
When Overwatch dies just like all TF2 clones before it.
>>337678310
>"You are able to buy loot boxes" is the same as "You cannot buy loot boxes"
>>337675018
>Muh hats
You are literally the cancer that killed tf2
>>337678424
Someone said no one at Blizzard said you could buy loot boxes, I'm showing someone from Blizzard saying you'll be able to buy loot boxes
>>337678017
It didn't filter you, so that's the main reason many ppl won't play it.
I haven't played Overwatch, is there something similar to rocket jumping in it? A friend of mine was complaining about it, but he is kinda bad at games.
>>337678365
Hey, ripping off TF2 is no big deal. It's like when you see characters wearing jeans in video games. They're all ripping off Levi Strauss.
At first there was nothing, no games ever existed before TF2...
Then everybody started ripping them off... so here we are today debating it.
>>337678105
Possibly never?
They are similar games
>>337678565
THis guy can place a mine and get a boost, and another character has a jetpack, one guy can climb walls. There might be more but im not sure.
>>337674690
>>337678281
this isn't in the actual game, is it?
>>337678565
Phara can shoot one of her skills in the floor in front of her and propel her up along with her regular escape boost.
Junkrat can throw a concussion bomb on the grind and propel himself up too. You can't spam that though.
>>337678565
No, closest thing is Pharah's shift which sends you straight up into the air
People have been trying to replicate it by using her concussive blast but it doesn't work nearly the same way
>>337678645
everyone on this board is a retard
>>337678639
Pretty sure both Genji and Hanno can wall climb
>>337678365
>>337678138
>>337678035
>>337677480
Gee, you lads aren't very bright, are you?
>>337678565
Theres an jump jet ability with a cooldown but its nowhere as useful as rocket jumping.
>>337678639
Hanzo can climb walls too and Lucio can scate along every wall in the game.
>>337678597
>>337678639
>>337678659
>>337678668
>>337678724
Okay, thank you, looks like my friend's complaints were valid.
>>337678565
Nope. There's 0 movement mechanics in OW. It's a console game after all.
>>337678565
>I haven't played Overwatch, is there something similar to rocket jumping in it?
There is a girl that's basically the Soldier, excepting that instead of rocket jumping she has a jetpack that rises her up in the air and can hover in the air for a fucking long time. It's basically the Soldier class made for babies.
>>337678565
despite what everyone has been saying, the rocketlauncher girl can do regular rocketjumping.
her SHIFT boost jetpack has a long cooldown, and doing a normal rocketjump costs 40 health out of 200 max health.
i feel like just because people aren't doing it yet doesn't mean it's not useful.
her rockets fly pretty slow, so sometimes getting less air by rocketjumping, meaning you're closer to the ground and do damage faster.
i found myself rocketjumping a few times during open beta, especially when going towards the objective, it seemed faster than just running.
>>337678934
She can also rocket jump the normal way.
And the Australian demoman can sticky jump with his mine.
>>337678934
I want Pharah to beat me up
>tfw I can't decide if Soldier 76, Pharah, Reinhardt, Mercy, Lucio, or Zenyatta is my favorite
i enjoyed the beta, but 40 euros is a bit steep for a multiplayer-only game presumably without any mod support what-so-ever and a server browser for custom content
>>337674690
TF2 died the moment it went F2P
It has made me miserable because it was one of my favourite games ever
>>337679035
>not just using E which does NO dmg and has a shorter CD than Lshift
bruh
>>337679117
I have the solution to your problem.
Roadhog.
>>337679035
>shift to rooftop
>spam rockets on payload from above
>build up ult
>wreck scrubs
ez-pz
>>337679129
Meh, it happened. You move on when game is done.
>>337679035
She can stand in the air for a long time just with the boost and there is a lot of high ground everywhere. And most people have no idea how to deal with her.
>>337679126
you will probably get more hours out of overwatch than any other game you buy
>>337679129
>TF2 died the moment it went F2P
The game was slowly declining in players when it went F2P. Going free made the game more popular than ever. It was necessary for the game to survive this long.
>>337679126
It really comes down to the fact that do you think the game is worth the price.
I got 20 hours out of the beta and that's worth more then the 90aud ill be paying going by an hourly rate,
>>337676872
> -$40
> +Free
>>337679182
E still has a cooldown, is sometimes unreliable and mid combat it sometimes has more useful applications
>>337679205
well yes, in that case you don't need to rocketjump, again i said it's sometimes useful and totally an option.
>>337679228
true
>>337679304
>giving the game a big playerbase
>at the cost of the enjoyment of those who bought it early on.
>>337679129
Why do you people who are not even playing the game keep spouting that "TF is dead"?
>ESEA, UGC, ETF2L, AsiaFortress and a handful of other leagues have been active for years and still are
>one of the most played games on Steam literally non-stop
Do you mash on quick play and then wonder why 12-year-olds act like 12-year-olds?
>>337679361
idk man i'm not 15 anymore, and i'm okay with paying $40 for something i enjoy. i haven't enjoyed tf2 in something like 7 years
>>337679129
>only play TF2 with friends on a handful of password protected servers
>never see the horrible community problems people always complain about
>>337679304
Sure it survived, but at what cost, anon? At what cost?
>>337679279
>you will probably get more hours out of overwatch than any other game you buy
Not really, after 10 hours of the beta I was already getting sick of it. Trying new classes added some more hours but there is not a lot to do with a game.
I think the game is worth 15 dollars at best.
>>337674905
Is she a fucking centaur ?
>>337679304
BRs, Russians, the purge of community servers, items which don't fit the artstyle and now paid weapon skins
I'll give them MvM, because that was awesome but the game is a husk of what it was
>>337679205
>Get sniped by fucking fag WM.
>Get sniped by fucking fag MC
>Get cooked by fucking Bastion
Not fucking ez
>>337679408
>>at the cost of the enjoyment of those who bought it early on.
I bought the game in 2009 and the F2P update didn't ruin the game. It actually was improved by having way more official servers, more mods and more pubstomping.
>>337674829
>>no bronies
>>no furries
>>no autists
>>no Hues
>>no Russians
This is just delusional
>>Blizz has come out saying cheaters get perma banned on the first offense - no excuses
It's like you've never played a Blizzard game before, they take literally forever to ban people because they do it in waves just like Valve does
>>easy to jump into
Sure but that's every Blizzard game
>>337679460
>At what cost?
Nothing, because it's free.
>>337679635
Creator. Now.
>>337679525
>BRs, Russians
You are thinking about dota.
TF2 died after trading was introduced, so yes.
Battleborn is better though. :^)
>>337677367
You mean MW2, which too be fair was fucking abysmal and a perfect example of why p2p is shit
>queue up with 3 friends
>puts us in 3 separate games
>is laggy as fuck half the time
>is never ever fixed
>VAC not even programmed to pick up hacks in MW2 despite it being the anti-cheat for the game so hackers were rife
>>337679525
I agree with you on the awful items and skins, but you can mod those out and they're necessary to earn Valve some easy dosh to keep the game alive.
Recently Valve took some steps to help community servers too, looks like they're going to allow server owners to enable the contract system on their server as long as it meets some as-of-yet unknown requirements. That and killing off LMAObox finally.
>>337679745
The creator has no name.
>>337679548
>thinks Rocket Girl gets countered by any of those
See pic.
>>337679831
I know it's about positioning and situation. but Rocket girl have fucking 200 health. MC and WM can 2 shot. 2 fucking shot her.
>>337679829
But is there a 55 in the creators life
>>337679816
Are you trying to imply that Valve is in any way lacking the money it costs to keep TF2 going?
>>337680002
Might be his age, has a good lulu set that I wish he'd go back and add sound to.
>>337679953
Widowmaker cannnot do jackshit if Pharah sees her first. And McCree is basically a non-threat unless you are stupid enough to not have the high ground at all times.
Bastion can be a threat but only because Bastion is nearly OP as fuck in certain areas. This will not change unless Blizzard introduces a proper spy class or guts him.
>>337680204
he just needs to grow up and make 30min vids
>>337679412
>>337679428
fucking this
also don't even think that Overwatch won't devolve into this either, and they don't have private servers so you won't be able to avoid it
>>337680283
Fuuuck, I don't think the net could handle it. I'd beat it raw if he compiled the honoka ones into a big video with minimal story
>>337680408
so it'll be an online game
wowzers
>>337680269
> McCree is basically a non-threat unless you are stupid enough to not have the high ground at all times
You mean 'you' can't shoot her. I drop her like abortion clinic all the time with McCree.
>>337680467
I never played McCree, I saw some good ones McCree players but they were non-existent when I was playing Pharah, because he is a non-entity when I was playing her.
>>337675992
If you're matched with people above your level it means you're better than average.
>>337680460
the first post in this thread is talking about how the game doesn't have bronies, furries, autists, etc
but it will, and unlike TF2 it doesn't have private servers so there will be no way to avoid them. it might be good now but Blizzard doesn't have the foresight to prevent it devolving into shit by having private servers.
>>337680026
Why would they keep it going if it didn't turn a sizable profit? It probably doesn't cost much to run the servers or pay the three interns that still work on the game, but Valve probably has particular goals the game needs to meet to stay alive. If stupid people want to waste money on ugly skins I won't ever see, let em.
>>337680573
Good to be you I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfPCxVMrY4
>>337674690
tf2 already surpassed overwatch
came back 8 years later and we will talk
>>337680618
>the first post in this thread is talking about how the game doesn't have bronies, furries, autists, etc
yeah, and that's retarded. every game will have those because it's an online game.
literally every game is that
>>337680726
I never encounter any of those in TF2 because I play in leagues and on private servers
>>337674690
no nigga, not even neo-TF2
>>337680627
I don't see why would anyone think that McCree counters Pharah, he has very short range in comparison and less mobility.
>>337680796
I didn't say you encountered that in TF2
I said literally every game ends up with the same idiots
>>337680876
The fact that he can get into a goddamn sniper fight with Widow and win.
>>337680876
>hitscan weapon best at medium range
>12 shots
>headshots do plenty damage
McCree counter pharah, but then again most hitscan weapons counter pharah.
Street pig is best guy
>>337680918
but I'm saying that TF2 is better than Overwatch in that regard because Overwatch literally doesn't have private servers or leagues so you quite literally have no way to avoid the autists and faggots
it is just going to be a shitty community and there will be no way to avoid it. Blizzard only cares about box sales and they will give no fucks whatsoever about maintaining a community, they pretty much never have in any game they've made. and a community is pretty fucking important to have in a game like TF2 or Overwatch or people have no reason to continue playing.
>>337680971
>The fact that he can get into a goddamn sniper fight with Widow and win.
Not against a non-shit Widowmaker. HIs pistols have plenty of damage falloff.
>>337680876
What do you mean short-range? Do MC have damage fallout? Cause I was having sniper duel with WM and I won. Mostly because WM suck ass but point still stand.
>>337681074
>Not CleanCat
>>337681074
thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
>>337678934
>Spend hours on rocketjumping maps perfecting the technique
>Or press E to fly
>>337681074
i agree
>>337680269
> Bastion is nearly OP as fuck in certain areas
Are you bad at video games or do you just play with retarded teammates?
>>337681004
>>337681176
McCree counters anything in a 1v1 close range situation.
Flashbang,fan,roll,fan.
Long range?
Not much you can do.
> private server tards
Why do these fags always shit up a Blizzard topic with this
>>337675018
>$60
$40 unless you're a peasant or want shit in Other blizz games.
>Customization is skins
I'd rather have the left be an on/off toggle than ever have to look at the right again.
>free
And the community died when that happened
>Lodes of custom weapons, hats and gears
Most of them useless, and a good chunk of the hats being meme hats that break the look of the game.
>>337681313
>Long range?
>Not much you can do.
>have you ever landed a headshot son?
>>337681282
>>337680623
They keep CS 1.6 and Source going.
>>337681394
how else do you plan to avoid autists in OW then? all Blizzard needs to do is just make private servers and the problem solves itself
>>337681435
$40 is overpriced aswell. Game is 20, 30 bucks maximum considering the content.
>>337681313
>Not much you can do.
I don't know? Maybe M1?
>>337675089
this
>>337681435
>custom weapons
>useless
boi
>>337681313
>Are you bad at video games or do you just play with retarded teammates?
In a few areas he is OP as fuck, I tried it myself, it's insanely unfair. They made a very mobile Wrangled sentry with very little damage falloff and self-repair.
And then decided it was balanced. They already nerfed him and he is still strong as fuck. In TF2 you would deal with that with a spy or an ubercharge, but that doesn't exist in Overwatch.
>>337681569
you pay for the future content upfront.
>>337678565
Two characters have a "Rocket jump"
Pharah has a jetpack ability, and a rocket with a knockback that also effects herself.
Junkrat can minejump.
>>337676656
>I didn't forget Widowmaker, since having a generic "Sniper" class isn't anything you can attribute to TF2.
Which game before Team Fortress had a sniper class? They even copied the zoom/charging mechanism and machine gun secondary.
>and has a shitty SMG instead of an assault rifle.
That's called 'good game design', by making the character who's lethal at long range weak at close range.
>>337681435
>And the community died when that happened
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
>>337681657
>you pay for the future content
>>337681674
>Which game before Team Fortress had a sniper class?
I think Quake Team Fortress mod was the first game to ever had a sniper class.
>>337681703
There was a distinct difference between TF2 before free to play and after.
>>337681657
>you pay for the future content
Blzzdrones everyone.
>tfw Tracer's sweaty butthole
http://imgur.com/a/98ipg
>>337681774
would you prefer a season pass for only 49.99USD?
>>337681570
>>337681503
His long range damage is 35. 70 if it's a head shot.
Do you really intend to snipe with that?Takes 3 shot to kill Zenyatta.
Heck, Zenyatta does more damage long range than you. 45 damage, 90 headshot. And I'm not even considering orb of discord.
I just don't even understand how Blizzard even plans to support esports in OW without private servers either
How will high ranked players meet up with each other to scrim teams and stuff? Or just practice with each other in general? If you can't make your own servers to have private matches how will you even practice?
I just don't even understand how this shit is going to work at all, do they just think esports communities happen by having ranked matchmaking and that's it?
>>337681839
>There was a distinct difference between TF2 before free to play and after.
Yeah, more people playing and more brony servers.
Which I think we are not entitled to complain since this brony faggotry started in 4chan.
>>337682019
Well yeah. It makes me build my Q like fucking volcano fast
>>337682019
>dying to pharah in long range
>ever
if she is so far away that you get the full damage drop off then you shouldn't get hit by her rockets either.
>>337682027
there is an option for private games.
you just don't get any Exp for those and have to invite every player by yourself.
>>337681901
kys my man
>>337682027
There is a private match option, you know. Even if you don't have your own server, you're still able to play in a private game that is invite only.
>>337682185
>>337682293
Yeah that sounds like shit though, how are you supposed to form an esports community if you have to invite every player yourself and also why even bother if you don't get experience? They basically want you to already know people before meeting them, I don't see their "esports community" lasting very long because of this
I feel like they haven't really thought this through
>>337682027
The only purpose of Overwatch is to make some quick buck from consolefags. Then later go F2P and make money out of cash cow whales.
When Titan was canceled Blizzard shifted focus on reviving WoW by shifting most employees there. The lack of content in WoW in the past 7 years is because they assumed Titan was going to be their next big game.
So the plan is to revive WoW, start a movie franchise with the Warcraft film, keep milking Hearthstone and start selling more merchandise. Their focus now is on Warcraft and Overwatch is just a way to compensate on all the shekels they wasted on Titan.
TF2 IS DEAD
RIP IN HELL HAT COLLECTING AUTISTS
>>337681603
Ok, so you are just bad at video games.
>>337682185
>if she is so far away that you get the full damage drop off then you shouldn't get hit by her rockets either.
Most people don't look up until it's too late. And her rockets don't have damage falloff since Blizzard is full of genius designers.
>>337682362
>create game
>invite your team
>invite enemy team leader
>he invites his team
also you don't get experience so you can't grind lootboxes that way.
if you want to play random people you just do matchmaking.
>ctrl+f
>webm
>only some mentally ill waifu fag
What is wrong with you marketers
Post fucking webms already
>>337682535
It's OW. what did you expect really?
>>337682362
>how are you supposed to form an esports community if you have to invite every player yourself
Other competitive games have been doing it for years. It's not this huge barrier to entry you think it is.
>and also why even bother if you don't get experience
Experience means nothing beyond crates, so it's not a huge loss. If you're doing it competitively, and getting paid, and skins/voice lines/poses mean that much to you, you can take some of your prize money and buy crates.
>They basically want you to already know people before meeting them
What? That's amazingly stupid. I'm having trouble understanding what you're getting at. Is the problem that you're expected to know your team, and the team you're scrimming with before the match? Because that's literally not a problem. Because otherwise, it's the same shit as the private servers. You needed to know who you were alerting/giving the PW to for said private servers.
>I don't see their "esports community" lasting very long because of this
Because of basically a series of non-issues?
>>337682504
Yeah but how the fuck am I going to meet high ranking people and play with them then? Even in ranked matchmaking I still won't do that
You have to meet people before you befriend them and invite them to play a private game. Even if the game starts out with teams already made, if people leave they are going to have a really hard time filling slots because their won't be private servers full of high ranked players like TF2
I just don't see how they plan to have an esports community in a game like this without private servers
>>337682701
see above
Do you play competitive TF2 at all? If so, you would know what I'm talking about
>>337682752
have you ever played in a clan?
you register on some website like ESL
you go for a tournament/ladder and see who you get to play against.
if you just want to train with your buddys then playing ranked matchmaking is probably a safe bet.
all the "matching up" usually happens outside the game with 3rd partys.
at least that's my experience doing competetive TF2 in 2008-2009.
>>337682975
Okay but get this anon, you're on a team and you have some people leave your team
How the fuck do you plan to find more people to fill your team?
