Do you fags always bow before you fight? Or do you just go straight for it?
Also what are some amazing fights you have put up?
no bow from them and I I'll chug
If they bow I bow or wave, otherwise fuck it
>>337653223
Mostly just go straight for it, back when emotes couldn't be cancelled baiting bows and going in for a hornet ring backstab was fun.
I kick people who gesture, back up to let them recover, then start fighting.
>>337653223
I bow if the host doesn't show immediate aggression. If I get a bow back I'll hold back on the estus unless the host drinks one.
Invaded a nimble little shit one time ( was a slower greatsword user) that only ran away unless he had a guaranteed opening. He had a white summon and a blueberry when I invaded, but I was able to dispatch them with an ambush. The host was much more cautious and would not engage with me at all. I was able to bait a couple counter attacks which I made him pay for, but after that he just jumped around me. He didn't run away, just ran or rolled out of my reach when ever I tried to attack and he must have had that ring that increases i-frames because I couldn't get a solid hit on the guy. Two more blues showed up and the host was able to summon a sunbro, but I persevered, the invasion was already over an hour now. I had run out of estus after taking out all the other phantoms and was now just using the gentle prayer from my chime to keep me healed. I got a break when another red phantom invaded and we both attacked the host, but he was a greatsword user as well and the host was doing a great job of dodging everything. The other invader must have had enough of the host's bullshit because he turned on me and I had to take him out. After I had killed him the host and I continued our dance until around the two hour mark he disconnected.
This happened today. Been reposting it. I'll type up some others.I have shitloads of cool stories. This is among the best though.
>Playing my Ninja twink at Undead Settlement
>Invade this guy
>He has a sunbro using a password with him
>Nameless King Helm etc, so I know he's probably strong.
>Snipe with Obscuring Ring and idle around for awhile
>Blue Sentinel is called by never mans up to come after me
>Host sends him home
>Uses Seed of the Tree of Giants
>I kill the two nearby Workers without taking a hit
>Refuse to come after them
>Eventually I get bored so I decide to go see what they're doing to bug them with more obscuring sniper nonsens
>ITS A FUCKING ITEM TRANSFER IN PROGRESS
>SHITLOADS OF WEAPONS AND GEAR ON THE GROUND FOR THE TAKING
>RUSH THE FUCK OUT
>GRAB A FIRELINK GREATSWORD +1
>RUN BACK TO MY HIDEY HOLE
>EQUIP THE GREATSWORD AND GO TAUNT THEM
>SUNBRO RAGES THE FUCK OUT AND CHASES ME
> I COMMIT SUICIDE VIA POWDERKEG EXPLOSION
>HE NEARLY DIES IN THE BLAST
Firelink Greatsword. You have to beat the whole game to get one. That's a pretty heavy blow to deal.
>>337655285
Why is that?
>Launch Week
>Grapejuice time at Lothric
>Hapless noobs summon me
>Lead them to the first Bonfire
>Backstab them and murder them before they can light it.
Did it a dozen times. Super fun.
>Invade Crucifixion Woods
>There's a host and two guys
>manage to kill one of his friends
>I'm super low on estus
>his remaining ally is very skilled and hard to punish
>run off and go down into Farron Keep
>Leave a trail of prism gems that leads to the Old Wolf and that ladder etc
>Host climbs the ladder eventually
>I'm at the top in chameleon
>twohanding my crossbow
>use it's "tackle" weapon art
>knock him right off the tower
>he dies
>slide down the ladder
>chase the host down
>lloyd talisman that motherfucker and shred him
>>337655553
Damn, savage
>>337655472
Because I don't like gesturing but I don't want to take a cheap shot.
>>337655827
Sorry, it was the skilled phantom who got tackled off the tower. My bad.
>>337655847
Another super tricky move was to lead them to the mimic chest with the deep battle axe and trigger the chest. If you're standing side by side, it will eat both of you when you open it. otherwise, triggering it and tag teaming them with the mimic was always good too.
I usually use the hello carving then bow if they do, then generally kick their ass with the dragonslayer armor great axe, love that thing feels wonderful getting an L2 off on them
>>337653872
you're the second most fun to kill
>>337655553
I would always let them light it and then kill them. I'm a nice guy and helped you out but I'm still gonna get my shackle.
>Wear Silvercat Ring
>cut down the rope bridge at Carthus while standing near the Wolnir side
>climb back up the "ladder"
>watch idiots try to kill you and fall off the edge instead
They always button mash too early and just walk right off. If they knock you off, you won't get hurt, so it's a pretty safe spot.
>>337653223
This one time I fought a guy using a Dark Sword.
>End up with 3 dark spirits searching Farron Keep for me
>find a really good corner to sit down at
>use the sleep gesture with an ember at my feet
>eventually an invader finds me
>takes the ember
>bows
>black crystals out
>less than 30 seconds later, the other two go home too
He messaged me later asking how it played out.
I'll usually just go straight for it, but if they can somehow get the message across that they want to do some honorfagging, I'll do the same unless I see some funny shit that they're trying to pull on me.
>>337656119
>invade in catacombs
>guy and his two phantoms
>they start chasing me
>run away
>they follow me to rope bridge
>they cut it down as I run across
>get to other side in time
>wave at them as they get ass raped from behind by the 25 skellies that just woke up
One time I invaded a guy in undead settlement called Running Man and fucking christ did he run and run, he was near the second bonfire and we ran through the whole level then he entered the boss area and I glitched and didnt leave, we ran around the area once more then after a bit of waiting in the boss area again he let me kill him
>invade pontiff bonfire
>find a 2v3 standoff
>teams are gesturing at each other
>Sneak up behind them and gesture at them
>both of them acknowledge me
>it's 3v3 now
>I'm a thief build
>I manage to sneak behind the host's team
>Obscuring Ring and Slumbering Dragon Ring
>Host is buffing his sword
>backstab him with hornet ring
>Everything descends into chaos
>toss a few lloyd talismans at the clusterfuck
>host dies in the ensuing chaos.
The best.
I would bow, but all invasions are gank squad or people summoning
>invade
>see the summoning message as I enter
>host act all innocent and want to duel before other guy show up
Lolno
>>337655439
here's your (you) because that's pretty fucking great
>get invaded
>dude ninja flipping in full havel+greatshield+greatsword
>faster than fastest man
>starts taunting
>then shoots millions of billions magic arrows
>i die
>tell him he is hacker and loser
>he says hes not
>google his username
>found his name on site with dark souls hacks
xD
I try to parry people, but they always survive. Are there weapons that do more than 1500 damage with a hornet ring riposte?
>>337653223
>Invade around Anor Londo
>Chase the host around for a bit
>Host runs to Water Reserve ladder
>I don't want to be punched off the ladder so I decide to wait at the top
>Host just sits on the ladder, only coming up to attempt to bait me down
>I don't want to play the hosts game so I use my rest gesture and just wait
>Whenever the host gets bored and tries to attack when he thinks I'm afk I jump out and punish him
>Invasion is already gone on for an hour
>An Aldrich fag gets summoned twice, it's the same guy both times, and he tries spastik attack at the top of the ladder that causes him to fall to his death, does it again the next time.
>Invasion starts approaching the two hour mark when the host finally gets bored enough to fight me
>It's a good fight. I lost.
>red eye orb right back into my next invasion.
>SL 28, +3
>invade undead settlement
>spawn on roof over cliff underside bonfire
>see host run through, seems a bit panicky
>goes into bonfire room, probably tried to warp out
>runs out up the stairs, then drops down the little ledge where the lone thrall imp attacks you
>they stand behind the wall, presumably trying to see where i am
>i'm standing on the roof still, now right over her head
>drop off ledge, do a plunge attack
>host panic rolls and sprints until i finish the job
nothing extraordinary but it's nice knowing i may have popped a cherry
>decide if i'm going to be a piece of shit i might as well fit the theme
>make a character named Cowardly Lenhart
>objective is to be the scumlord of High Lothric
>firebombs, undead hunter talismans, kukris and knives, dung pies
>only fight with the aid of mobs
>host is climbing up ladder to escape halberd champion, plunge attack him as he reaches for the sippy and instantly kill him
>stop a phantom from backstabbing the abyssal monster and get the host killed in the confusion
>taunt constantly and then act like a total coward when confronted
they usually corner me by the boss room, whereupon i get my ass kicked because the bandit knife is not great for group fights
I fucking miss the scraping spear and the dragon bone smasher let me tell you. I feel like Demon's Souls is the only game that nailed thesoulof the PVP. It's not meant to be fair, it's meant to be underhanded and scummy, invaders are canonically dickheads and invasions should be something you dread. When I invade I'm there to cheat you out of souls and ruin your day. This means hiding behind enemies, healing, anything I can do to get the upper hand and be an irritating bitch in general.
Honorable duel faggots who take this shit too seriously forced the current paradigm.
>>337657414
You're too high of SL m8
If you want optimal pvp don't go past 60-80
120 feels way too high this time around.
Invading as Aldritch is always funny as fuck.
You can practically smell the host shitting himself in pure anger whenever you fuck up his day.
I especially love hiding on the second floor of the building leading to the archers and then falling down on the host as he runs up the stairs, sword first.
>Friend and myself co-oping before Anal Rodeo 2.0
>Pop Dried Finger because that's how we roll while co-oping
>Three invaders in under a minute
>Friend fights two, while I (host) fight one solo
>Friend manages to kill one, but dies with him
>I'm left alone to fight two Reds on my Sorcerer character
>Neither of them are falling for my Sorc shenanigans
>Somehow holding them off, getting enough chip damage on one to make him use estus
>Friend non-stop blabbering in my ear about trying to re-summon him
>Manage to make one run out of Estus, and a few seconds later, manage to kill him
>The second Red bows to me and puts on the White Phantom ring
>He doesn't attack me and eventually I re-summon my friend
>The three of us proceed to enjoy a half hour of fighting other invaders before I finally get caught out of a bad roll
Geralt of Rivia, you're a real hero.
>>337655439
>caring about one of the worst weapons in the game
???
Is luck even worth it to affect bleed?
>>337658261
This.
I'm sitting around lvl50 and my build is pretty much complete. I don't even know what I could put 70 points into if I wanted to go up to lvl120, likely just vigor and endurance which is probably what anon is having a problem with.
>>337655472
I usually run up and punch them.
I like to imagine it gives them a little jolt and I think that's fun.
>>337658261
Why the fuck do people keep saying this?
SL 100 here, I can invade anywhere any any time, even with Darkmoon & Watchdogs
NG+ is a thing folks
Now, I know you PC folks (why the fuck youd wanna play a From game on PC is still beyond me, years after the first of several shitty ports yall got) are a patch behind, I dunno if that makes a difference.
i have a friend who just rushes at people who bow, never swings, just sprints and watches them panic roll
bonus points for when he pulls out smough hammer mid-stride
>>337658576
Bleed is pretty good in DaS3, it's at least viable.
>>337658481
It's not its usefulness, but the shit you have to go through to get it.
>>337658792
Smough/Morne's coming out mid-stride is some scary shit.
>>337658809
Yes, but you even need luck for it or just carthus rouge is enough
>>337658821
Most people have 2-3 characters endgame/NG+/beyond
>>337658730
laughing at your shit fps console babbi
>>337658576
Not as a casual build, Carthus Rouge is better for that. If you go full bleed build with a hollow weapon then the extra bleed proc from luck is icing on the cake.
>>337658730
>SL 100 here, I can invade anywhere any any time, even with Darkmoon & Watchdogs
Getting invasions isn't the issue faggot, it's sl120's being jacks of all trades able to do everything with a metric fuckton of HP which is cancerous combined with the shitty nonpunishing mechanics.
SL120 is the strongest it's ever been and it's a shit ton less fun than sl 50 invasions where everyone isn't god king shithead "fuck your pitiful 1600 damage reposte" 15million sippy abusing gaylords.
>>337658970
And I should care why? This game is the first time ive come to this board in five years, I have a gaming PC (and all three consoles, its called get a job) but Im not stupid enough to play a From game on it when they cant into PC whatsoever
Got bored of console war bait bsck in 09 kiddie
The best invasions are when the host and the invader play along.
>>337659156
how do you get all those souls?
>>337658336
You wanna see people get upset? Try the catacombs. They try so fucking hard to live, even when they're mere feet from the bonfire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT-qu_pfzdQ
I always wave at the start of a fight and the end of a fight.
Best PvP experience was getting invaded by some jackass in Irithyll dungeon who hid amongst the throngs of jailers and mocked me with gestures.
I giant seeded his ass and watched him attempt to scramble away in panic before he eventually got raped to death.
>>337659237
Farming proofs of a concord kept.
Ended up with 2.2 mil after all was said and done.
>>337658970
How's that latest patch treating you?
>>337659046
Well, even slabbed at SL100 I havent experienced any problems killing players or them not having statistical weaknesses
My build is totally haphazard, not minmaxing at all, still no trouble
Personally I dont see the point in going higher SL than regular NG would naturally bring you to, the rings dont seem worth the time investment and any build is good enough to win at that point without needing to reach X hardcap/softcap on every stat you use
I will be going SL120 on the pure mage im working on, so we shall see how that goes.
>see invaders complain about ganksquads
>figured I'd stay embered through every area to give invades that 1vs1 they've been wanting
>stays pretty fun I win some and lose some
>get to the area after Pontiff
>invaded practically every time by two aldritch faithfuls
>get 2vs1'd every time with both invaders abusing the silver knights
>mfw
I hate when people bow because then I feel like I have to bow and I hate having to press select and search for the bow I would rather just get straight to it.
>>337659995
Make it your first gesture
Literally all you have to do is hit select then x
Needless whining, bowing is fun
But if any of you use anything other than duel bow youre a faggot
>>337653223
Gesturing as an invader just makes me angry - if I bother to not be a complete dickhole when I invade, it just means I get a host and his phantom faggot friends who sprint toward and me r1r1r1r1r1r1 until im dead.
Fuck that shit, being ganked and then taunted has made me bitter as fuck. I rush hosts and start the kill - I ain't waiting to get fucked up.
Only time I gesture is when I've been invaded by a single red or a single grape. Chug all my estus at once, and get right to it
I haven't ever had interesting fights except for my first experience summoning a grape
>cathedral
>grape sign right next to creepy spider room
>summon grape
>he bows, and we go after the spider together
>helps me kill it
>afterward, we both stare at each other
>the fight is on!
>after trading blows, its obvious he can't win
>hes down to a sliver with no estus remaining
>ive got two flasks left
>he backs off, bows, and black crystals out
>itwasagoodday.mp3
>>337653223
Level 25 +2 hollow barbed sword full kirks and carthus rouge
Prisoner chain, knight ring, knight slayer, steel protection ring. I also have 7 +10 flasks when invading so I have more than the hosts and heal more than they do. When they run to estus 2 or 3 times for full HP I do the same thing with 1.
Nothing really amazing but it's just so easy with this set up. I think I almost have 1k HP and the rest is into luck. The rings just boost my flat defense a lot so no one does real damage to me. Sometimes I run into the higher end of my range sometimes though. I'll see some guys with dragonarmor axe or lorian's sword and do alot of damage to me.
Even when it's more than one person I can just keep swinging till the bleed builds up and they usually try to back off leaving one person alone. I just run like an idiot at them and R1 spam them to death and if they parry it does no damage at that level. Once I see them parry attempt once I just R1 twice and then do a delayed R2 so they get hit and the bleed procs into death.
If they just block my attacks most of the time their guard breaks after three or four hits and causes bleed to activate.
From made it so much harder to twink but the pseudo 20-25 levels you can get with rings really help out along with flask upgrade not counting towards matchmaking. Plus bleed is just stupid strong. Just learned that there are bleeding bolts so I'll probably try that with avelyn and see how it works since the kukri are kinda slow
Call over master race
>>337660698
Which voice do you think sounds best
Since call over is literally the only time it matters
I like mature male because its the most startling if youre near and host doesnt see you or is so intent on getting his japanese ass killed at the beginning of the catacombs that he doesnt see your gaijin ass trying to direct him to the shortcut drop
Speaking of why are nips so dumv st this game? Ive literslly never fought or co-oped with a good one that didnt use a katana and that doesnt even count because katana
>Summoned outside of pontiff
>Opponent throw a lloyd on me
>The fuck is this nigger doing
>Procceed to duel like normal
>Got him down to little health
>He back off and chug twice
>I give him an applause gesture
>He get mad and make a straight bee line at me
>Parry and instantly killed him
>Give him another applause while circling around
>Got a message afterwards for being a parry spammer
I didn't reply at him but I was laughing my ass off to find someone as pathetic shit like this>Look up his profile
>Language : English :United States
Oh. Fucking figures.
>>337659995
just spam raising your shield / sword in block to show you're ready to do fight
>Got summoned as sunlight warrior-in-disguise dark spirit outside of pontiff
>Host wave at me and approach with seems like no ill intent
>Doesn't lock on me and doesn't seem to be hostile either
>"Does he not know that I'm a hostile phantom?" is on my mind at the moment
>He points toward the giants and those bald pyromancers
>He runs through them
>I play along with him for a while and backstab him when he let his guard down
>He runs through them
>I notice that he hasn't break the illusory wall to aldrich covenant
>I point toward it to show there is a hidden wall
>He attacks it, show rejoice gesture and drop me a twinkling titanite
>Huh, he seems like a nice guy
>We both go down the ladder
>I got down first
>He seems reluctant to lure the 2 crocs
>I pull out an arrow in order to show him to lure one at a time
>HE FUCKING USE SEED OF GIANT WHEN I WASN'T LOOKING
>I notice the icon quickly and make a run for the ladder
>He is already climbing his way up
>Fucking shoot him with crystal spear
>He fell down
>I climb my way up and see him massacred by the two crocs
I know I was stupid to trust him but not that stupid to not noticing seed of giant icon.
>chilling while watching my little brother play DaS3
>he's fourteen
>for some reason he stopped playing right after finishing undead settlement
>no spends his time helping people with summons
>some guy invade him
>covenant actually summon another guy that stands still
>my brother sends him home
>it's now 1v1
>brother tries to bow
>nigga just goes on spamming R1
>brother parries him with a caestus
>guy dies after a crit and a couple of hits
>adds my brother and send him a wall of text about respect and honour
Fuck, I think I'll never make someone this mad. That was some high level buttblasting.
I'm level 55 with a weapon + 5. I've never had watchdogs of farron ever trigger and I got it at like level 35 weapon +3. What's the deal with it never triggering? I don't even know what the covenant does.
>>337653223
Hoe do I avoid PvP in this game /v/?
I'm not competitive and I find this sort of thing stressful. My hands literally shake when I'm attacked in the DZ in The Division.
>Legion etiquette
>>337662497
Play offline.
>>337662596
Oh, thanks. Do I miss out on anything by playing offline, aside form the PvP?
>>337662656
You can't summon other players but you can still summon NPC.
You might spend some extra 5+ hours of playtime to farm covenant item offline but it's still doable.
>>337662341
>I'm level 55 with a weapon + 5
Found your problem.
>>337653223
>depends
If its a summon sign invasion, then ill use the "hello" craving or bow. I let them ready up and we go at it. If its a random ass invader that itll do whatever it take to fuck with them. Last invader i had i let him """lead""" me to the group of crabs in smoltering lake. I just popped a seed of the tree of giant and starting taking potshots at him with my bow while he ran for his life
>>337662840
Thanks m8. Got the game arriving in the mail this week, looking forward to it.
>>337662063
Respect and honor...about what? Sounds like your bro did exactly that and is a cool guy for helping blues, seriously fuck farming proofs
>>337658203
What a clever demon!
>>337663038
Forgot to mention that you can't leave a message or see messages left by other player.
Have fun, mate. Make sure to play the game blind for the first time.
>>337662505
whats wrong with legion etiquette?
>Invade some dick hole
>Host teleports to me
>See that shining dagger beckon closer
>Panic Alt+f4
>>337660436
I use Legion Etiquette. It's pretty cool but not insulting.
>>337663423
it's the fedora tipping of dark souls
>>337663423
It's basically the new "Well what is it?"
A super cocky "I probably look so cool right now and am totally erect" gesture.
>>337663423
It's not slav squat that's what's wrong
>>337663458
>>337663471
>>337663501
Whatever. If I invade someone as Legion, I don't bow, I do the Etiquette. If I kill the host, I etiquette and walk away.
Im a watchdog, thats what watchdogs do
>>337663641
that's what edgy faglords do too
>invade
>3 people
>kill phantoms
>host summons more
>blue comes in
>kill all phantoms
>host rolls and runs until he can summon more
>eventually die
>they gesture
Seems to be a common theme in my invading.
I've uploaded one thing, too lazy to convert to webm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjH4mb9CtA0
>>337663041
Who knows. I remember the guy saying something about having to duel with the blue before him and some shit like that. I honestly hope he was a child 'cause I can't believe there's an adult somewhere who got this mad about a videogame.
>>337663641
*tips fedora*
>>337662505
>applause
>invade host with a single phantom
>try to bum rush me down
>phantom dies
>host panics and spams
>parry him
>"connection lost, returning to your world"
>>337663641
>heh it's whats to be expected of me
>T'was an honor, M'lady
I bet you slow walk too you fucking faggot
>>337663674
I guess I'm an edgy faglord then
But at least I don't wear Fallen Knight
>>337663736
its *tips leonhard tricorn*
>>337663786
>It's a "The host disconnects when he runs out of estus" invasion
>>337663785
I forgot:
>quiet resolve
>point down
>THERES'S A FIX FOR DARKMOON ON PC
>BUT NOTHING CAN BE DONE ON CONSOLES
KILL ME NOW. RAGE AND MOAN AND WHINE AT FROMSOFT. THEY NEED TO KNOW.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/
I've had hosts jump off cliffs or insta disconnect sometimes when I pull out the BKGA. Has my gank raper become the new estoc or am I missing something?
>invade after pontiff
>guy standing there in dragon form with no weapons
>unequip everything
>use dragon torso stone
>dragon fist fight
I like when people aren't all tryhards and actually like to have fun once in a while
>>337663423
Absolutely nothing. Edgy's one of the latest poorly-defined scapegoats and anything that might conceivably fall under that banner is to be stamped out.
Alternatively, dumb fucks hate everything.
>>337662505
I like using the "help me" carving after killing gankers
>>337664103
It stunlocks people into oneshots and has unexplainable hyper armor.
>>337664192
>claims people use edgy as a catch all insult
>calls all said people dumb as a catch all insult
u wot m8?
If I'm invading to invade I murder on sight. I'm invading your ass to murder you unkindly, not for a gentleman's duel. If I'm doing fight clubs or otherwise putting down a sign to be voluntarily summoned in for pvp, then I'll bow.
>>337664336
>>337664103
Fun Fact: Greataxe category has the greatest hyper armor and hit stun more than any other weapon in the game. stuffs great hammers and ultra greatswords.
>>337664308
I use applause if they're gankers. "I'm sorry" if it's a single guy.
>>337664336
If people can't dodge one of the slowest weapons in the game they deserve to die
>>337664170
I remember one time when I was invading the forest in DaS1 I got a host who had a bare fist phantom that kept beckoning, so I swapped to fists and slugged it out with him
Another red invaded and tried to kill the host and I just stood there while the host and his phantom murdered him, then went back to boxing with the phantom
Shit was fun
>>337664416
If you invade just to kill the host as effectively as possible, you're doing it wrong.
I get more fun from with full kirks and no weapons, just rolling. Or obscuring ring and dragonslayer bow. Or killing enemies with environmental hazards.
>beat abyss watchers
>go down the stairs
>get invaded
>thought it was an NPC invader
>he dies pretty quick to me
The fuck was that about
>>337663501
What? "Well what is it?" is still in the game.
>>337663792
>Being too insecure to walk in an RPG
>>337664586
not him, but if you slow walk in a 1v1 or invasion, you're an edgy faggot
>invade as mad phantom after pontif
>host waves and bows
>runs away
>ambush.jpg
>follow him anyway
>runs to ladder leading to crocodogs
>tentatively follow
>he fires arrow at one, aggroing it
>realise he thinks I'm a friendly phantom
>play along and put shield up facing crocodogs
>hit host, he panics, tries to climb ladder
>kill him on ladder
Felt sort of bad about it, but he was kind of retarded.
>>337663792
>>337664685
I always wanted to do pic related, but missed the glory days of DS1 online
>>337664685
>killed by 4 man ganksquad
>they slowly walk away when they kill you
>>337664781
>wolf ring
RIP
>>337664798
no they just clap or point down. haven't had that happen. I hate the slow walks in 1v1 duels. It's annoying
>>337664685
it's just another way to taunt a host after murdering his phantoms
I mean, it's that or spam taunting emotes.
>>337664798
>killed by 4 man ganksquad
>they point down on your corpse after raping you darksword r1 spam
>>337664848
Poise is your iframe number now dummy, dumb as shit if you ask me
>>337664685
>>337663792
>>337664891
i can't help it im going as fast as i can
>>337664091
>shadman
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>mfw when I dumped my min/max slash/thrust resist twink armor mishmash for Fallen Knight set
>Stopped doing Welcome and Applause and instead started doing Legion Etiquette
>All the delicious salt and hate mail
>>337664976
iron flesh is acceptable to slow walk lol. people that purposely do it because, "oh i bet he's so scared lol, i look so badass" are the worst
>>337664798
>Killed by 4 man gank squad
>Legion etiquette
>>337655827
>invade
>low on estus
this nigger heals?
wimp
>>337665047
I love punishing people that don't get why im not getting staggered by their weapon combos they specifically do to stagger people and just doing a full charged 2-hand butcher knife R2 on them and taking out 50% hp
>>337662918
>and I got it at 35 + 3
So what's the problem? I've had it so long that I've obviously not been overlevelled this entire time since I first got it, and surely nobody's still progressing around farron swamp area above level 60?
>>337664685
I usually walk to communicate to the host that I'm interested in a civil duel. Its sort of a pre-bow that lets me gauge the other players intentions based on the reaction I get.
> invade
> 4 dudes including host pretend to be a fight club
> as soon as I jump into arena they follow me and gank me
> spam gestures as my body fades away
>>337665047
>someone with massive weapon
>slow walks towards me
>fuck him up completely
>he rolls and runs/heals and switches to katana or estoc or something
>mfw
>>337658203
this guy gets itplaying with my friends and getting crushed by mages was a riot and terrifying I miss being scared of invasions
>>337665259
>invade
>4 man ganksquad
>run away and hide
>wear full kirks, obscuring ring and dragonslayer greatbow
>spend 20 minutes being an annoying cunt
>>337665042
I like Fallen Knight but its overused
Besides, starting Knight Set is sexy as fuck, and I don't give two shits if its starter armor
>>337665264
lol proceeds to running r1 spam and gets parried right? Same shit happens to me every night
>>337665163
That's why I love perseverance, trading idiots to death never gets old.
>>337653223
No, I usually pull the network cable and keep going doing my business.
>>337658203
You'll love the Japanese then
Japanese thoughts on DS3.
>Giant's Seed overpowered
>Invading a solo host is bad taste,
>Fight clubs are the bottom of the scum,
>Invading a 1v3 that is getting through the area is considered the holy grail.
>Yet they turned massively sour after people using GS)
>Poise working only on hyperarmor frames is praised
>Greatshields are overpowered
>Proof of Concords Kept has become the masochist's home, the grinders share their pains in the forums to ease their suffering. Getting summoned to it is like cheating. Dark spirits are actively encouraged to black crystal out if they get Blue invaded
>Straight swords are overpowered, no real reason to use Ultra variety
>Not a lot of backlash on Estoc
My bud and I have been going through the whole game together, I'm a Hollow Luck/Bleed Build and he is an all-in sorcery build.
Our strat: he (hosting) acts like a retard, swinging his dark sword at the air, rolling away for no reason, etc. I run up alone, and because he hasn't used magic yet they just assume that the host is a coward and making me duel.
People get really freaked out by bleed, so they stop paying attention to him entirely. Then he blasts a buffed up soulspear through my chest for 2000+ damage.
Pur lafs
>>337664934
Poise doesn't do anything. Hyper-armor is the new poise. From is going to have to greatly boost heavy armor absorption in order to fill the hole poise left.
>>337665424
I only use it in PvP, because it's what triggers autists. Not like armor has any bearing on the outcome, since starter armor is all you ever need.
>>337665467
>Dark spirits are actively encouraged to black crystal out if they get Blue invaded
The bastards.
people who use any other emote than bow before and after the fight are immature kids with no manners.
>jolly co-op with friend
>smouldering lake, behind the fog wall near the big rat
>warn friend about the basilisks below
>get invaded before we jump down
>see him below, he's beckoning us to come down
>fuck that
>drop seed of a giant, tell friend to use it
>hallway below us turns into Woodstock, gas everywhere
>invader panics and runs
>friend laughs and starts spamming gestures, inching him closer to the ledge
>too close
>host of embers died, returning to your world
I parry baited this one guy and he started this tangent about how I lived in another region outside of the US, and then started making fun of me for some reason. Because I'm a dickhead I kept egging him on until he started sperging out.
>>337665467
Japan is dumb then because poise doesn't work like that. Poise is now the iframe reduction you lose
>>337665467
>Not a lot of backlash on Estoc
Estoc is only OP against shitters who don't bother to remember that their shield is the best defense against it.
Almost everyone who's invaded me so far has been total garbage. I hardly ever did PvP in DaS 1 and I've been handing these idiots their asses with the Butcher's Knife. You people enter my world, slow walk towards me, do some kind of gesture, apply a weapon art or resin, then just suck.
Also, shockingly, every fight so far, it's been the invader who fucking chugs first. All that horse shit about MUH HONOR in DaS 1 was just trying to trick people into not using their estus advantage. So now not only can you use the mobs, lose no souls upon death, and prevent me from continuing onward, but you can just run away and chug-a-lug. It's no wonder people summon a bunch of phantoms when they get invaded.
I'm not even really backstab fishing, I don't have any parry timing at all, and I don't summon randos to help out unless I get invaded by multiple buttfucks. The invaders in this game just seem to blow.
>>337659046
What are you guys saying? SL120 people have only around 1500. It's just the same as being in SL50 where your damage is low as well.
And you can't be a jack of all trades in SL120. It's impossible. I have a DEX/FTH build and I can't do miracle offensive spells. I can only use that build for buffing my weapon.
I really don't know how you guys are able to say that.
SL50 maybe is fun for you because magic does no damage so that means most people are playing a melee build which means it feels "fair" for you people.
>>337665378
See I don't get how you get past the running away part.
The 4 of them have enough stamina to longstab me in the ass
>>337665554
>Implying blueberries know how to PvP
In the 3 times I've set up concord farms for blueberries, only 4 out of 20 blueberries managed to win a fight. Every time I've visited these threads I've seen people with similar experience where in some cases not a single blue ever wins.
Being a "dick" as a summon is far more rewarding. Especially if you kill off any invaders so the host really thinks you're a good guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2l4EE8zouI
>>337665712
1500HP*
>>337665681
That's been proven false
>that one invader who tries to crash the fight club by rushing the host
>>337665714
Just have to be good with rolling and stamina management, using the terrain to split them.
>>337665703
>Host automatically has 40% hp advantage and double hp
>Expects invaders to be muh honor and leave themselves at the mercy of the host
>Especially since invading a solo host is a once in a blue moon event
>>337665737
I can't argue with that, I once seeded myself with the way of blue to give them some action but they all got slaughtered.
>>337665658
To me you're no different than a sperglord.
The more you talk in this case, the more you lean to losing side.
>>337665681
That repost was 15 days ago. You don't get to say that they are dumb considering that shit you just said was only posted today.
>>337665737
Fucking this. I set up one yesterday and let it run for 3 fucking hours. Only one fucking blueberry won. I mean, really? Goddamn you people suck ass.
>>337665658
Looks like you're the one who sperged out.
>it's a host acting smug when you fell to his 4 vs 1 gank squad episode
I usually just go "HEY!" 9 times out of 10, they do it back. It's quick and annoying.
>>337664685
>>337665047
It's behaving like a human being. Not all of us are so unimaginative or jaded by age that we can't role play in an RPG.
You don't walk to be "cool" you walk because it feels appropriate and you haven't yet been reduced to viewing every game as nothing more than it's gameplay mechanics.
What soul level should I plan for in DaS1? The new connectivity mod solved everything but I still know fuck all about pvp.
>>337665804
>host gets invaded in fight club
>phantom looks like he's about to run up and hit host
>circle around him as red
>he chills out
>guy dies in arena so i'm up next to fight the guy who won with armor of thorns
>invader hops in instantly
>i jump down and make mean swingy motions with my character
>armor of thorns guys walks back up
>smash invader to dust with smough's hammer
>lose to thorn guy
moral of the story is let me lose to thorns guy jeez
>>337665831
>double hp
Meant double estus.
>>337658203
As much as I hated my first souls invasion because I had to farm for an hour after to repair my gear because of the fucking scraping spear, I tend to agree with this.
You should be shitting yourself as soon you see the fog walls block off bonfires etc. You should be running around clearing enemies looking for a place to make your final stand. You should be anxious when you see the red tinge of another player somewhere in the distance and finally you should fight as hard as you can, with all you have to overcome the asshole who wants to fuck your shit up, the if you do best him you need to emote over his fading corpse hoping hell be swearing at you in Russian, while you decide what you want to spend his ill gotten souls on.
>>337665467
how are fight clubs bottom tier scum? They're usually people tired of getting ganked in 1v3s
>completely dominate a guy in a 1v1
>get him to 5% hp
>for fun practice parrying on him
>I suck at parrying so I lose
>he claps after he kills me
does this guy actually think he's good? I could have had a flawless victory easily, you stupid faggot so show some respect.
>>337665847
>>337665837
Hey guys I just wanted to see what happened if I kept annoying him. I don't get to talk to people like this every day.
>>337665903
The only HEY that's even remotely annoying is the mature male one. The young male is just a britsh accent twat, aged is too goofy, and all the female ones are too cute to be annoying.
Where is the fun in 4 vs 1 people? Do it empower them?
>>337665842
Irrelevant japs are still dumb. And killing their gank platoon is the most satisfying
>>337665831
Most of the times I've been invaded I've been solo. I do some coop with a friend, we take turns summoning each other to clear areas and chat, then when he goes to bed or whatever I just go about my business and forget I'm kindled. That's when I get invaded the most. I've yet to be killed by an invader in 1v1.
Invasion is such a juvenile thing to do, it's no wonder that it attracts shitters. So far the NPC invaders have been much tougher enemies than any player.
>>337665957
Because it stems from their hate regarding how you faggots set shop on DeS in 4-1.
When you people made 4-1 your home for fight clubs, when they wanted to invade that place, it became like a de facto ruling that if you were there, it means you wanted an "HUNURUHBLE DUEL" and they hated that shit.
They really believe pvp is meant for invasions. Pure and simple. Fight clubs are stupid really there is no skill in there.
>>337664484
"if people cant play an entire match without getting hit once they deserve to die"
>>337665978
Probably clapping at your shit parrying skills. That you failed so much it got you killed. And of course, to make you butthurt.
>>337665978
>be a cocky faggot who thinks he can parry someone
>lose because of it
>talk about respect after toying with your prey
What are you, a fucking anime villain?
>bowing
heh. i invaded ur world to kill you. why would i bow to some lowlife scum when there's souls to be had. im not some foolish child in the sense of honor. what is honor anyway but something that gets u killed. baka
>>337665978
I've had an instance like that.
I was completely destroying a guy and he would heal. I didn't heal. I was going for a hit and he swinged his shit and it shockwaved me causing me to actually fall off and he did a diving attack when I had no health from the fall.
He starts gloating
Wha
Not amazing as much as it was entertaining, but last night I was running as a Blue bro and 3 times in a row I was fighting the same goddamn invader, a Fallen Knight set and halberd red invader that just could not win.
>>337666041
4v1 is retarded cause it's the host actively using a finger and summoning a 3rd so ofc you're going to get invaded since you used a finger
3v1 im a little bit more ok with cause it could just be a host who's bad and wants help pve-ing finger hosts are the worst though if you really need a 3rd for a boss there's usually signs exactly at the boss door so use finger then and then just run in the fog right away so you despawn the invader
>>337666085
I sort of get this. I hate invading after pontifs and always getting fucking fightclubs, even with aldrich faithful. If I'm invading I don't want le honorabu duru. I'd throw my sign down if I did.
Besides, don't invaders get 30% less health and reds summoned via signs get no health loss? Why would I 1v1 in a fightclub with such a disadvantage?
>>337653223
Bowing is the new 'tip fedora'.
I never attack while someone else is bowing, but I sure as hell won't expose my fucking neck for the sake of something as petty as chivalry.
>Wolfbro covenant
>Fighting some guy when another guy gets summoned
>He proceeds to sit down and wait while we fight
>Pissed and getting my ass handed to me, so I back off and he proceeds to fight the host
>Start hovering behind the host, making him uncomfortable
>Moment host makes a clean hit, backstab the host
>Both host and other wolfbro look at me, pissed
>Wolfbro proceeds to sit while host makes a beeline to me
>Begin dancing around wolfbro while host tries not to hit him
>Chucklefuck away and use the black soapstone to go home
I don't care who you are--the point of a wolfbro is to gank a specific area, leave your chivalry at the door.
>get summoned as red
>he bows
>i don't do shit
>parry first attack
>his health is GONE
Why does this feel so good?
>>337666181
Sometimes I hide with dried finger and way of blue just so reds and blues can fight.Blues always lose, no wonder they're in that shitty cov.
>>337666085
but there's skill in getting ganked? nip logic is ridiculous
>>337653223
I bow very often, sometimes i do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_1VOVlBco4
>>337665920
>you haven't yet been reduced to viewing every game as nothing more than it's gameplay mechanics.
This is something that really irritates me about /v/. Not regarding Souls specifically, but in any discussion about games. If you say you like a game for anything other than mechanics, you get shit on. It's ridiculous. Most of my favorite games earned their places in my heart through a mixture of music, aesthetic, and good design choices that make them pleasurable to play. Games that somehow make just scrolling through menus and wandering around doing jack shit enjoyable somehow.
In a discussion about Halo, for example, someone would immediately bring up Quake. I know that Quake has a higher skill ceiling. I don't need to be reminded of this. I'm trying to discuss what I like about Halo, not technical bullshit. It's the music, levels, designs of everything that I'll remember.
>>337653223
dark souls 3 invasions are absolute shit
>usually 3v1 for some fucking reason, very rarely 2v1, have NEVER gotten a 1v1 red eye orb invasion in over 100 hours in the game
>no poise so even if you land a hit first on the host or one of his cronies, the other 2 will staggerlock you
>a lot of the time, the game has you invading people who are already at the fog door so you just waste time in loading screens, 5 seconds after you come in they are challenging the boss
>>337666206
I don't get why it upsets people? If you invade a fight club just treat it like any other gank
>>337666282
Right? It's like all the unfairness a cherry or grape invader has gone through made them a better player or something. While those blueberries can't even fight for shit.
>mail breaker riposte is like 2times weaker than bkga
>>337666369
Have you seen people get mad that their fight club has been ruined by an invader and they post it on forums saying people have no respect?
>DS1
>NG+ run
>wait infront of OandS bossarea for summons because i feel like doing coop
>get invaded by Chester tipper and his katana
>kill him
>get invaded by him again 5 minutes later while still waiting for signs to show up
>summon Solaire
>kill him again
And after that he still tried 2 times more.
>>337666453
weapons that have the description "designed/effective at parrying" are never true in any souls game. The bigger the weapon, the more painful the riposte
>>337666369
You'll obviously die when treating a fightclub as a regular gank and because they dried finger, you'll invade them several times. It's annoying. DaS3 doesn't require the boss to be alive to summon reds/grapes. Perhaps you can summon more, but that's irrelevant since people are generally always sitting, waiting their turn anyway.
>>337666014
Yeah, I've noticed that it seems to be the only one that sounds like an actual hey. Everything else is like "HEAH" or something. Is it the only voice that's affected by being a phantom too? Seems to get deeper when a phantom with that voice does it.
>>337666498
Yes, it sustains me. I live for hate mail. I invaded the same dude at archdragon 11times in a row until until he rage quit, the message he sent me was 1/10 though
Anons help me, I've been in watchdogs of farron since 35+3 and am now 55 + 5. At what level should I be to be getting invasions as these, considering I've never invaded despite being with them so long.
>invasion
I don't bow, I do everything dirty to win
>fight club / soapstone
I bow / wave / something and I don't chug unless they do. However, I do try hard as fuck to kill them without chugging so they feel extra shit when they chug three times and I champ them like a fuck.
>>337665712
>sl50
>magic does no damage
i have a sl46 pyromancer that hits for 600-800 with chaos bed vestiges at 20 int and faith on people with lower fire resist, higher fire resist is 400-500 which is still about 2/3 of their health.
>>337660541
I wish chugging estus one after the other, all at once gave you some kind of short term, berserker buff or something. Shit would be cash
>>337666721
>since 35+3
that's already too high.
>>337666604
Jesus you people are such uncreative bastards. Equip the white phantom ring thing and cast hidden body. Walk up to the host and backstab him. Invasion over
>>337666227
Not being able to understand why other people have fun is a sign of autism.
I only like gank squads if they do something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUhcIFgU0nY
I just use the Hello carving instead.
One time I convinced an Aldritch Faithful to crystal out by throwing the Help Me carving and jostling my torch as a sign of friendship.Then another faithful came along with the NK spear and I died to phantom range
>>337666453
It is because the Hornet Ring procs for each hit. BKGA hits 2-3 times so its 2-3 critical hits. That's why Yhorm's Machete always ohkos
>>337666887
That's incredible.
>>337666887
greatest dickery i've seen since DaS2 onion cloud spam.
>>337655439
>not recreating your save file before you trade
kek
>>337653223
I always try and bow in Ds3 but I seem that the higher the soul level the less and less people bow, which is strange.
Here's a rare occurrence that gave me a slither of hope
>Be sunlight phantom, joining some guy's world just before rotted greatwood
>2 red phantoms and a mad phantom
>where the fuck is everybody else????
>they corner me by the bonfire so I see if i can waste their time so maybe I could wait for backup
>start doing the toast gesture closer and closer together
>end up sitting in a drum circle with 3 enemy phantoms for about 5 minutes before the host and other phantoms enter boss fight
if someone gestures i'll just wait until they're done or munch some grass/buff up
occasionally i'll proper bow if they don't seem like a full blown faggot
>its a 4man gank squad
>host has popped giant's seed
Why do people this? Do they pretend its some kind of "revenge" to invaders?
>>337665467
I actually wait for smurf to join when I invade so I can crush him and get twice the tongues.
>>337666884
That has nothing to do with fun, but has everything to do with forcing other people to follow arbitrary rules.
Worst yet, when it goes against the specific mechanic in the game.
>Wolfbro Covenant
>Whole point is to invade and overwhelm people who enter a specific area
>Fag gets summoned and immediately sits to 'wait his turn'
>While me, someone of the same covenant and a brother at arms, is getting his ass handed to him
Frankly, I hope he lost, the prick. Don't sacrifice my Swordgrass for your chivalry.
>>337665714
Yeah I usually try to use the cat ring to get away and then black crystal
Blueball those gankers
>>337653223
>bowing
>not doing "Well? What is it?"
>>337656119
Shortly after launch I was killings hosts with that bridge as a white phantom, must have killed like 10-15 people who'd summoned me that way
I usually shoot them in the face with my Avelyn when they bow.
>blade of the darkmoon
>spend 2 hours waiting to get summoned while farming silver knights
>get summoned, the invader dies 3 seconds in, no ear
WHAT A BRILLIANT COVENANT.
>>337666229
I've made an experience with bowing and not bowing
People that don't gesture are either the worst or the best players. People that gesture are mediocre, strength-wise.
>>337666083
The NPC's are easy as fuck
They don't constantly roll like players do
>invade 3v1 gank squad
>almost kill host, but get wrecked by phantoms
>hosts applauds then points down
It's always the shit ones that use gestures like this
>>337667265
They're not forcing you to follow arbitrary rules.
They're following their own.
You can do whatever you want, don't be mad that the other phantom does whatever he wants as well, like sitting and waiting.
>>337666282
Fucking this. Atleast Reds get to enjoy those sweet forked tongues.
>>337667403
>Guy invades me
>Kill him outright
>3 minutes later a Blue Sentinel is summoned and is immediately sent back home
What a waste
>>337667403
worst part is if you were in another covenant you would have gotten the item.
>>337667265
I don't want to bully you, but it wasn't chivalry, he doesn't think it's fun to gank and it would've been more chivalrious to help you, wouldn't it?
You actually have autism, do you?
>>337657414
I don't get it desu
>>337667265
Doesn't the game get mad at you when you're a wolfbro and you kill another wolfbro? I recall it telling me something, that one and only time I ever got fucking summoned
>invade kiln for medals
>some fag can enter the boss fog and is super annoying to fight
>invade him like 10 times in a row
GO AWAY
>>337653223
>summoned as blue
>multiple reds, host has multiple phantoms
>it's a huge battle in the archdragon peak in the area after the great belfry bonfire with all the snakemen aggro'd
>fight for like 8 minutes until the stream of red phantoms stop and I return to my world with a bunch of ears
I wish there was a dedicated area for battles like this. Maybe a free for all zone with multiple players and respawning enemies.
>>337667545
>Autism
>Not being able to understand people's emotions
>IN A GAME THAT HAS VERY LITTLE COMMUNICATION, HOLY SHIT
Wow, so like everyone on the internet must have autism huh, including yourself.....
Were you born stupid or was it something you had to learn
>>337666361
You understand video games. Try not to post during the day time, I guess?
It's hard to interpret whether those posters are too young to appreciate immersion, or more likely too world-beaten to be capable of it anymore.
>>337667435
>getting mad at gestures
thats the whole point, i laugh everytime i see one, because he either thinks he is the shit or wants to make me think i am bad, while i am aware of why i lost, and it wasn't the gesture. It's either a Hue Ping high like skyscrapers or Dorksword infinite range. I won't get mad at the player i'll get mad at the game or developer. Don't hate the playa, hate the game!
>invade as aldritch faithfull
>hear silver knights shooting the host
>caught a glimps of the host going in the hall that leads to darkmoon tomb and elevator switch to anor londo
>activates lever
>grab my dragonslayerbow
>thinking to myself he heard me its probably not gonna work
>shoot him in his back, he gets knocked over and falls to his death
>3seconds later elevator arrives
>applause
>>337667710
>very little communication
There are many gestures and even the Messenger Heads you can throw. I die everytime i here the "Help Me" one. Tasukete!
>>337667674
Problem with this is reds can hurt each other, whites are fine to just spam R1.
I've wanted to experiment with Force, how is it? Any good areas to employ it in the area after pontif? Maybe dropping an item in the hopes the invader picks it up near a ledge.
>>337667964
Yeah, this is why I'd want something like the Battle of Stoicism in DaS1 where there are no phantom colors and everyone is free to attack each other.
>>337653223
>bow
No, I use collapse when they close I do a rolling surprise attack.
I chug estus like a Norwegian in Arabia.
>>337667265
This happened to me too once
>get summoned as aldritch faithful
>shoot host with greatbow on those tight bridges where its easy to get knocked over
>host uses force to try and knock me over
>while im shooting another aldritch faithful just stares at me doing all the work
>host has obscuring ring on but you can see him because he has greatarrow poking from his chest
>other aldritch faithfull still does nothing
>eventually get killed by host
If I just got the Darkmoon Ring on NG and then farmed Concords in NG+, does that mean I have to collect 30 again to get Darkmoon Blade?
>there are people on /v/ who expect invaders or wolf/aldritch invaders to have "honour"
Just fucking stick to Pontiff's little fuccboi duel club if you want to bow and jerk each other off for 2 minutes before fighting. Invading is a different scene, anything goes from both sides.
>>337668171
No, it saves your hand in progress.
>>337668162
Because people leave the auto summon covenant on and go do something else while playing the waiting game. They probably never even realized they got summoned and died
>>337668270
Thank fucking God. I really thought I had to do it all over again.
>invade a host named Zuko
>young pyromancer with a fucked up eye and twin swords
>has a white phantom buddy whose fat, old, pyromancer with big robes and white hair
>named Uncle Iroh
>kill Iroh, but he gets summoned back in while im dealing with the host
>eventually get killed
>not even mad, was fun
I actually really like folks who cosplay and make serious characters, especially the folks who have names like "etc of (place)"
then I remember my name is a fuckin' joke name because I'm pvp invading and I feel like an asshat
>>337668319
This happens more with dorkmoons. This idiot was walking around but was to afraid to help out
Why do people do gay roleplay shit in these games? I don't understand. Do it in PvE, but don't get mad at me when I don't want to abide by your homoerotic meta crap.
I've had two hosts message me saying I'm not playing the game right, because I invaded and killed them while they were hosting a fight club.
Go to Dark Souls 1 or 2 if you want arenas, they have those.
>>337668362
>character named Guts
>cosplay guts for a long time
>eventually turn in to one of those Guts with random armour/weaponsYeah, I ended up being one of those guys...
>>337667964
It's weird how they've fucked up the covs yet again
>both variants of blue are literally identical
>blues rarely get summoned when you've invaded
>purples and reds are pretty much the same thing, to the point where the phantoms are identical apart from colour
>two area defence covs in areas clearly not designed for it (missing the pvp designed area like the forest in 1 or the trap filled areas like the rats in 2)
You'd think after 3-4 games, they'd be able to actually plan the covenants out instead of tacking them on at the end
>>337668362
>not cosplaying as guts
>>337668462
>invade someone hosting a fightclub
>hosting a fightclub in an area you can be invaded from rather than summon reds/purples
He deserved it, simple as.
>>337668392
I don't know then he must just be retarded I suppose, in 150 hours I've been summoned once then spent the next hour searching for the fucker with 6 other wolfbros. Only to have the host disconnect when I found him hiding off the map. Never again
>>337668482
My characters name is also guts. I play with my brother so we use password 'berserk' to summon each other. Suddenly we see an extra summon sign also called guts but full cosplay, greatsword avelyn etc. Was fun
>>337668362
i names my character germany, It just makes me giggle a little everytime i invade
>>337668362
Or invade cosplay skullknight
>>337668494
Purples can kill reds to complete the objective, reds only get it by killing the host. I think...
>>337668362
I roleplayedDyson from Lost Girl.
Manikin Claws, bleed damage when possible, etc. named him The Ash.
>>337668702
purples need to kill x amount of phantoms or the host, reds need to kill the host, yeah you're right
>>337668702
Their objectives are a little different, but the phantoms are functionally the same. Both can hit other hostile phantoms and the host, and both can attack enemies.
It's not the worst covenant overlap in the game, but it could have been handled better
>>337661915
He prolly did it so you 2 could fight the bloodborne ripoff dogs ya nerd
>>337658878
no they don't. Most people have not completed the first half of the game
>>337661915
You can't drop titanite
I don't like the pvp in DaS3.
It's retarded, only a bit better than DaS2.
I like to play meta, but in this game some weapons are retardetly strong for how fast they are. This leads to very few decent builds.
I'll be going back to DaS1 for pvp related game.
I'm still impressed how much better DaS1 is for both pve and pvp.
>>337668609
>germany invaded
kek
>get invaded
>cant even damage him
>literally doesnt hit
>nigh impossible to hit people while they spam rolls
>can hardly punish estus
>summoned to another world
>cant get through fog to boss fight
>invade
>not kicked out when boss is fought
>greatbow tracking is shit
I really hope they fix this shit.
>>337668362
>>337668502
>>337668802
Call me Reddit, but i never laughed so hard at a Cosplay before. It just fits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq7Xevr0Wxc
>Get invaded in Lothric Castle
>Just after the first bonfire, before the dragon bridge
>Invader comes into the bonfire room
>Use hurl boulder at them, it connects
>They freak out and run out of the room, forcing me to chase them
>I had cleared out most enemies in the area, but didn't want to fight where it was possible to pull more
>He keeps running away from me, hoping to bait monsters to attack me then join in
>I sneak passed them (Will explain soon)
>He keeps running away, up to the second bonfire
>He runs and hides behind the red eyed lothric knight
>He doesn't seem to realise how I got passed the other monsters
>Cast Rapport on the Lothric Knight
>Lothric Knight wrecks invader.
Was fun.
>>337669023
I can't go back to Dark Souls 1.
After all these games, there's nothing about it that stands out. At least Demon's Souls had variety in boss designs.
Dark Souls 1 had Ass Demon, Ass Demon on Bridge, Wandering Ass Demon, Fire Ass Demon, a bunch of equally unmemorable bosses, and Artorias.
it's the prime example of a game that loses value in PvE after your first playthrough. Capra Demon isn't engaging once you know you can plunge attack him.
Gaping Dragon isn't intimidating once you kill the channels.
O&S don't actually have any cooperative coding. They're two separate models without tied programming of any kind, unlike Throne Watcher/Defender and Yaoi Twins.
Pillars make the fight trivial.
THe only boss that's still fun to fight around again is Artorias, and Manus if you don't tank through his monkey chimpouts.
Everything else is just uninteresting the 2nd time around.
Used red eye orb and ended up invading the same guy 4 times in a row. We had honorable fights the first 2 times then things got crazy when a blue and another red came in on third time. Was fun would invade again.
>it's a you need to take at least 2 hits to move episode
>be lower level
>people actually like to fuck around and fight each other
>get to level 120
>out of the last 50 fights, 48 involved faggot "invaders" doing absolutely nothing but protecting the host
What the fuck is up with this game?
I never invaded anyone prior to this game. But I want the Platinum and I don't have the item discovery to farm stuff. So I got the easy stuff (Fingers/Mound) out of the way. I've probably invaded 50+ times, one night was just 20 in a row with nothing to show for it.
As a Purple in Lothric Castle, most of my invasions were to Gank squads with people either waiting for me in the Bonfire room or already killed the dragons. I think my most memorable invasion was sitting on a roof in the Grand Archives waiting 40 minutes for a group to clear the zone just because he had 3 phantoms and would run back to re-summon if any died to an invader. In the end I rushed them alone while they were on the final segment and I killed a single phantom.
As a Red I invaded Archdragon Peak yesterday, most of the invasions were 1v1 against hosts mainly at the starting bonfire. Quite a few had 1 phantom with them who hid in the 1st bonfire and expected me to walk in and get ganked. Most of my kills were when they were occupied with the Serpent Summoner.
Entire time I invaded with a +10 Longsword and the starting Knight set. It was fun but I still felt like a dick doing it, I wish the Covenant items were obtainable in NG++ like DS2.
>>337653223
How do you guys have fun in NG+?
Now that I've finished I feel sort of empty. I wouldn't mind trying out some more multiplayer shenanigans but don't really know where to go or what covenants to use and I've never found dueling fun. I've never bothered with NG+ in the previous entries because after you've figured out enemy patterns everything just seems a bit pointless.
>>337664563
>invaded by 'Anele of Astora' in catacombs
>convinced this is just an NPC
>even plays shitty like one
>they run out of estus, tiny amount of health
>throwing knives, they go around a corner
>'wait, is it a person?'
>go around corner, they jump off ledge
>google name, no NPC
I was confused as fuck.
I got a message from someone after a failed invasion. Some shit like "lol chugging estus and still got raped"
It's like whatever dude, I just want my covenant shit.
>>337670721
I wish I could drop covenant items for people I'd gift them to fool. Here I am stuck giving faggots 20 embers like a douche
>invade as a spell caster
>host and 2 summons start running at me
>ally red shows up
>cool, I'll cast spells as he runs in
>target host
>start casting soul spear
>red runs up
>game changes my lock on to the red
>one shot the red
>my face when
why is this allowed
>>337670937
This shit happened to me, haven't looked it up yet is there an NPC Farron Watchdog that invades alongside Heysel? This fucker stood still where he spawned until Heysel got summoned, then went after Heysel exclusively and only attacked me when we had killed him.
Why don't people go past SL120? I dont understand the meta.
>>337671463
look at your setting bro, pretty sure its not set to that at default as well.
>>337671463
I think you can change that in the setting, I dunno I don't lock on for that sweet sweet dead angle on parry fishers. I think you can turn off auto switch though
>>337671463
I actually find it fun when I invade as a grape, and while hunting down the host, run into a red invader.
Thats when I emote, and then team up to fuck the host over.of course if the red gets to a sliver, I'll kill him. And when the host emotes his thanks, I kill him too
>>337671721
#1 reason is its hard to lvl up past that point, the more you lvl the less players are willing to invest the time to get to that lvl.
#2 is the build diversity kinda caps at lvl 100.
Low lvl builds tend to have to focus on one thing, while lvl hundred builds can have a little bit of everything or focus heavily on something.
120 builds are the same thing but its possible to focus on 1 fighting stats decently. past that you'll just lots of builds that just kinda have everything.
>>337671879
thanks m9
>>337661072
Get wreck'd shitskin
>invade swamp SL30
>guy has two "scaled down" people
>does lightning buff
>hits me once
>I die
>have 18 vig
They need to fix the scaling, also noticed when I was playing with a friend when I had a +0 weapon the lothric twinsword did like 220+ a swing
>>337663694
>VERY GOOD
>>337671959
Just go in for a high damage attack on high lvl scaled down players, for whatever reason the scale down system mostly affects hp leaving you with low amounts of it.
>>337662505
>Point Down
>invade as a grapist and hide somewhere
>host summons a phantom and pops a seed
>he finds me, use Jump for joy
>run off and start flattening enemies for the host
>i accept my fate
>die to some hollow because i was careless
>he sends me a message saying "wow you're the first mound maker who's ever been helpful"
>tfw Purple Bro and invade others game with the White Phantom Ring and help the host kill off other invadersby abusing the Sacred Flame glitch
>>337672364
This I think it only affects hp and levels down your weapon accordingly but doesn't touch your str/dex so you still get a massive scaling boost
what is a good level for frequent watchdogs invasions? was thinking of maybe sl25 +2 weapon, but cant decide on a weapon that would be good, maybe the old wolf greatsword
>>337673094
I've heard around 35-38 with a +3 weapon
But i think a +2 weapon between 25 and 30 probably works better
>>337659156
I love when this happens
>slow walking away while using quiet resolve
>Invade as a summoned mad phantom (in front of the a high help demanded boss fight, probably on accident)
>enter world with a host and phantom
>Go up to host, drop a prism stone(use them to determine what I should do)
>he rolls green, i'm supposed to help him
>before I can do shit host attacks me
>just try to dodge and spam gestures to get across i'm not trying to kill him
>this goes on for like 5 minutes
>phantom doesn't seem to give a fuck
>get tired of this shit, parry and riposte him
>one shots him
>phantom just walks up and claps
>muh honor
Too many fucking carebears in DS3. I can understand fucking around with fightclubs but if I invade I'm doing it because I want to fight you. I don't want to play 10 minutes of grab ass or spam emotes. If you want to erp or do some other gay shit go to /dsg/ or something. Some of you faggots have no issue sending me fan mail because I hit you mid emote because you wanted to praise the sun or some gay shit and yet you think running around naked like some possessed faggot in heat around the entire god damn map is totally OK.
>>337673812
I don't bow until the host doesFor faggots that bow, and i emote in response, and they try attacking me while i'm doing that, is when I get out the glitched sacred flame
>Making my way through Crucifixion Woods with two phantoms
>Two wolfbros invade
>Kill off the wolfbros, but lose all my phantoms in the process
>A little later get invaded again by a couple wolfbros
>Its the same two guys
>Getting me shit wrecked so I huff it to the boss room
>I can enter part way into the boss room without initiating the fight if its my first time
>Wolfbros can get past the fog gate so I poke them from the other side
>Play a game of "bop the weasel" as I exit and enter the fog gate to bait attacks
>Wolfbros have enough of that shit and just wait in the ruins
>I run out of the fog and quickly summon a couple phantoms
>Phantoms get wrecked as the wolfbros ambush them
>Keep summoning phantoms
>After about 20 phantoms wolfbros are low on health and obviously out of estus
>I rush out of the fog and "spin-to-win"
>I win
>>337673683
>just try to dodge and spam gestures to get across i'm not trying to kill him
This is becoming a huge problem. You can't even help people because they're so used to being attacked non stop by other players. I love helping people and rarely engage in pvp but more often than the host will attack me at some point.
>>337673812
Somebody got triggered
>>337673865
Serves you right for backstab fishing you shit cunt.
>>337673865
OUT FUCKING PLAYED
>>337674575
I mean I'm partly to blame, yellowstone is betrayal
>>337673683
>phantom sits back and just watches
I love how much more common this is than nice hosts.
>win
>I'm sorry!
>I'm sorry!
>I'm sorry!
>Patches squat
I can feel the tears
>>337675496
A...are you me?
>>337653223
>get invaded while talking to anri before big king skeleton
>someone cosplaying as Guts
>thought he'd be a cool guy, was looking forward to seeing his fashion as I planned on doing a Guts build
>runs straight past me and hides behind Anri
>nope, he's a cunt
>sits there, blocking with his UGS
>get his health down to 2/3rds by spamming all 40 throwing knives + any shit i could find in my inv
>chugs and resumes turtlemode
>sit there for a second and wonder what possesses someone to be such a cunt
>suddenly realize I can just walk into the boss room because I haven't activated it yet
>run past him, drop down onto the other path and walk into the boss room
>sit behind a fog wall he can't pass throwing firebombs and shouting "HEY" at him
>sits there for about 5 minutes waiting for me to leave the fog
>try to add him through recent players
>declines and blocks me
>black crystal's out
karma has never made me so fucking erect
>>337660698
HEEUH
>Invade a guy at high level
>He's pretty bad, tries to spam R1 but I have hyperarmour
>Got through all 15 of his estus, 5 lloyds and a DB before he pulled the plug
It's more satisfying than killing them desu, especially when they disconnect after dying because when they get back on they'll have to watch their death animation, and you get like 50 souls for killing a host
>Invade some nigga called "Witch of Izalith"
>They are bright blue with master clothes and twin swords
>Have a sunbro with them
>Sunbro duels me
>beat him pretty quickly
>go for the host and take of most of their life
>they run and chug
>they re summon the sunbro
>kill the sunbro again
>go kill the host
Fuck you, you running away bitch wasting my time.
>>337678608
people who use straight swords never learn how to play
>>337676778
If it's a gank squad I invade into then using NPCs as human shields is fair game.
>tfw I tricked the host and gank squad into attacking horace and anri at halfway fortress
>host and one phantom got rekt
and now he's broken the quest and made them hostile unless he finds the velka statue
fucking karma bitch
>>337679329
Even if it's a gank squad I'm usually pretty contained if I can tell they were actually just casuals doing co op, I'll just embarrass them and move onto the next one. It's when I see 5+ "summoning phantom" messages appear the minute I show up that makes me out for blood.
Anyone know the build for being a faggot mage?
I just plan to snipe fucks from far away while my cumrades do the dirty work.
>>337680347
crown of dusk, scholar candle stick 65 int
my combo does 2k damage. Nobody can survive it. But making it hit is almost impossible. I prey to allah every time I cast that they will lag enough for me to hit my spells
>Guy summons me for a duel
>Greet him by bowing, chug my Estus to show that I want it to be a fair fight
>He doesn't do so, but whatever
>He's using some sort of UGS, I'm using a broadsword
>UGS is easy enough to dodge, so I land some hits in. Get him down to half.
>He does an attack, I roll back from it
>While heading back to him, he chugs Estus
>fuckthisfaggot.png Black Crystal out
I thought this common courtesy was pretty much known everywhere (that isn't Japan because their PvP preferences are the complete opposite of ours).
If you summon other people for duels, you don't use Estus. Ashen is allowed if you use magic. If you see someone chugging all their Estus, it means DON'T USE ESTUS.
However, if you're being invaded, or are invading, all bets are off.
>>337680347
Young dragon ring, bellowing dragoncrest ring, magic clutch ring, sages ring, crown of dusk, scholars candlestick, court staff or crystal staff, 20 DEX, 60+ INT, 30+ ATT. Sorc start for the young dragon ring
You'll die in one hit but crystal souls spear can 1-shot some players now (but good luck hitting it)
>use revolt online
>cant invade anyone
>>337679329
>gank squad
Tell me again how you're getting ganked when you invade someones game?
>>337680792
Why not? because you say so? I want to use all the tools the game provides in PvP thanks anon, you can either choose to or not but you're the one who's gonna lose because you used all your healing items in some kind of ridiculous display of video game chivalry.
>>337680693
>I prey to allah every time I cast that they will lag enough for me to hit my spells
>>337681064
>but good luck hitting it
How does it feel when your spell hits.
>>337681360
I cum
>>337663501
this
>>337655439
You bastard.
>>337666361
>>337667725
Its weekend, plebs. Post on /vg/ for good souls disscussion.
>playing who gives a shit build with nothing specific because Im not autistic
>some dragon looking motherfucker invades
>comes near me and bows
>run behind him and stab him in the arse
>finish him off after he gets up
>get a nerdrage message from the guy
>send him meme pictures in return
>never hear from him again
PvP in souls games is fucking trash, always have been and if some assburger invades I just deal with them the best way I can as swiftly as I can, using the cheapest tricks possible to get rid of the autists.
Im not terribly good at "fair" pvp without any cheap trickery, but good thing there is always some way to cheese your opposition to death and they get mad, everytime.
>>337681360
Either godly because they died, or like shit because they survived and healed back to full health, meaning you have to hit at least two more to kill them
>>337681349
Because chugging estus doesn't make for fun gameplay in terms of dueling. Yes, there's nothing stopping you from breaking unwritten rules but it does make you a faggot. It's not losing when you're playing on a ruleset a vast majority of players aren't using. I've beaten every single person who's chugged during a duel, too. Usually they don't know any better because they're very inexperienced with the game.
I don't mind 1v1 no heals dueling, but if a cocksucker thinks I'm going to let him fucking buff he's got the wrong idea
>>337682147
estus and health management are an intrinsic part of the developer's intended combat mechanics. Knowing when to use health items adds a layer of strategy, you're just softbanning it because you think it adds something, while it actually just takes away from the combat overall.
>>337682279
i think it forces careful play, rather than allow a mentality for risk because a player has 12 fucking estus
>>337659239
I once got summoned in a convoy of one host, and two sunbros as a blue.
The red was hiding.
Two sunbros fell down the pit after the skeleton archers let loose once they thought the dodged the boulder. Host followed suit.
That invader must have had a good day. But no forked tongue for him.
>>337682279
No, it leads to imbalanced duels because the phantom has half the estus as the host. Like what the fuck is the point of dueling then?
>>337653223
>invade crucifixion woods as a mad phantom for the sole purpose of killing other invaders
>happen across the host and his magic phantom
>just look at them with my weapon unequipped
>phantom keeps trying to hit me with his dinky magic
>go down to the swamp and just look at them
>phantom keeps trying to hit me with his dinky magic
>host and phantom move on
>creep up behind the phantom as he's shooting more of his piddly little bolts at enemies from up on a cliff
>he doesn't notice me right behind him charging up the great cleaver heavy attack
one hit was all I needed
>>337682453
maybe play well enough to not allow your opponent an opening to do a 1.5 second healing animation?
>>337682424
careful play is also knowing when to use healing items.
The fact that there is even a discussion about this shows that people have different viewpoints and you have no right to get mad when people dont abide your softbanned ruleset.
>>337680792
They really should've just had dueling arenas like DS2 did. Stupid issues like this would've been solved.
I use darkmoon loyalty instead of bow because I am a baller
>>337682682
What? I do carry drag spears and a light crossbow for that reason. This doesn't counter the fact the inherent estus imbalance doesn't allow for a balanced duel.
>>337665737
Yes because of From's genius idea to make it auto-summon in a stack so the same clueless fuck will get blue slot EVERY time.
Rescues should only happen via the Red Eye Orb.
>>337682682
well then, enjoy your 20 minute duels and your invaders black crystalling after they run out of estus because they know you still have 6 sippys
>>337653223
>decide to invade as a grape outside of Pontiff's area for some fun group pvp
>keep invading 1v1 honorabu fight clubs in the pit of destiny where the host just sits and watches others fight and bow gentlemanly
>if I attack any of them Im seen as breaking the code of honor and they all gang rape me
>decide that I'll be the host and get my own free for all going
>get invaded by THREE watchdogs in less than two minutes
>no honor here, they're all gunning for me
>summon a mad phantom since thats all I saw at the moment
>grape starts getting his ass kicked
>go to help him out
>he decides to try and take me down with him
>start running for my life from four phantoms
I cant win
>>337653223
I pvp as a grape. im also terrible at pvp, but i try and stay true to the spirit of the grape, and bring more grapes for the grape god. I will emote based on intent. Praise the sun if i want to team up against somebody else, etc. which does not of course prevent me from taking the finishing blow on my supposed ally, if i feel like it. The only thing consistent is that i'm inconsistent. one match i might help the invaders, another the host, and then i might switch teams at my own convenience within the round. i love grapebroing :)
>>337682682
Fuck off, it's super easy to estus in a duel and difficult to make worthwhile punishes. It's a low risk high reward.
>invade Irithyll as pyromancer
>invade 4 man gank
>see ornstien, smough, and artorias
>oh its one of those cosplay ganks
>smough comes up right behind me while i'm still getting summoned, trying to back stab me
>get out of there
>some faggot with a dark sword and sages hat comes out of nowhere
>he must be the host
>parry his running attack and pelt him with choas fire ball and catch him with gargoyle spear
>summon killed
>go back and kill smough since he fat rolls and is completely fucked by choas balls
>second invader spawns
>ornstien runs away and arty follows
>The red and I chase them
>summoning phantom
>Laugh internally at this mess of a cosplay gank
>see ornstien at the bonfire and arty nowhere to be seen
>red goes at ornstien while I look for wolf boy
>get caught off guard because yorshkas church is fucking dark
>wolf nigger is dumb and eats a choas ball
>stun him with the weapon art
>turn to see ornstien getting parried by red
>host of embers killed
What a fucking shit show.
I was a mannered 'bow before each fight' bro in DS1/2.
In DS3, the game has turned me into a salty cunt. I just immediately bum-rush the host because I know it's my only fucking chance.
>>337682779
>farming dregs
>it's a fight club
>farming concords
>it's a fight club
>just feel like invading in wall/irithyll
>it's a fight club
Fucking faggots, just gound and destroyed a great area for invades. Glad I made a new character at lower SL to avoid those.
>>337658203
Scraping Spear needs to be brought back so I can fuck invaders with it again
>>337673865
>you can parry unintended backstab animations
>you can parry Weapon Arts despite some of them having a long-windup and costing FP
>medium shields are useless so people only use parrying shields or Caestus
>since Hornet Ring exists you can one-shot nearly everyone by spamming parry until it works
Jesus christ From your PvP is fucking horrendous please do a meaningful goddamn patch for once.
>summon someone to duel
>before we fight he chugs all his estus expecting me to do the same
What's the point? If I'm the type to chug during a duel then I'll just not chug before the duel. It's a stupid waste of time and it forces me to go back to the bonfire after a match. If you chug all your estus but your opponent decides not to, then you're fucked. If you just keep your estus and your opponent drinks during a duel then you can do the same to even the odds.
>>337653223
How is BB multiplayer?
>>337683228
Now you see why the Japanese audience hates fight clubs.
Everyone wants to try to be the next Oroboro or FightingCowboy, so they more than likely set up a shitty fight club and stream it to like 2 other people on Twitch.
>>337653223
Nah. It's fucking dumb but I let the little fags do their "honor" shit before we start fighing
I usually just spin in a circle
>Spawn at that bonfire near the undead village, where there's the dude with the huge axe waiting right outside
>Get embered up
>Spot a sole purple summon sign on the ground
"Rival"
>Itson.jpg
>Summon him
>He crashes my plane with no survivors
EVERY TIME
>>337683228
I just snipe hosts with CSS when I see this shit, I have no time for it.
>>337683375
Absolutely terrible.
If you think DS1 PvP was bad, or you think DS3 PvP is terrible, you have no idea of the hell that is BB PvP.
>>337683473
What's so bad about it?
Just happened
>invade before pontiff
>two guys with COOKIE CUTTER BUILDS with BK shield and claymore
>kill phantom after like 10 minutes of them going turtle
>LOL DISCONNECT
>Invade again
>other dude, same build disconect as soon as phantom dies
Who plays this game anymore?
FUCK killing the host, Mound makers have it fucking easy
I pressed R1 once
>>337658878
who cares for most people, its the fact that this guy wanted to transfer it to his friend that makes the theft hilarious
>>337653223
If o invade i bow if invaded i just rip their throats.
>>337683338
Parrying is literally low risk high reward. By the time you can react to the whiff animation the parry will have fully recovered. Parry has always been a shit mechanic online.
>>337683640
Gun spamming (basically, think long distance parries that can be triggered even if you're not attacking), and Bloodtinge builds.
>red invasions
>estus handicap
>always at least 1 other person defending host
>they never bow or fight you one at a time, they just charge at you and spam right bumper
>they taunt you with gestures after you die
>"lmao just git gud"
They ruined invasions in DS3 and nobody is willing to admit it, because all of these children would rather just troll you with the 'get good' meme if you attempt to discuss it.
>>337658336
>playing solo
>Aldrichcuck invades
>I'm waiting him in the open, on the ladder before giants
>he deiced to be a pussy
>fires an arrow at me from the area with deacons
>Seed.jpg
>see a three fireballs in the distance, they take 30% of his health
>he BCs out
worth it
Aldrichfags must be the pussies invaders ever
>Love Caestus for parrying because it's basically instant
>Now, everybody is using it and just refuses to attack because they want to parry
Which big named PvP Youtuber made Caestus parrying the new meta?
>NG+ wall invade
>SL 60
>second bonfire
>arrive just in time to see red killed
>run and find host and blueberry in mimic room
>blue comes alone for me while host emotes
>host was just setting up a pluging attack but I dodge
>flee to room with thieves as same red reinvades
>he's a greatshield fag but at least on my side
>shitshow as the 4 of us keep wacking at each other
>red falls
>host and blue go for plunging
>but they're low and red survives
>plunge down and kill the three of them
First forked tongue. Going to keep these bitches unused since fingers are so easy to max.
I never have bow on the bar, I just wave to them.
>>337684087
>I use axe
I had people try to parry my shit while I 2H
Instant disconnects
>>337684317
Yeah. It's super fun whenever people realize they can't parry the Murakumo's weapon art. Especially when they keep trying.
>>337681349
What's the point of chugging if you're an invader in a 1v1 and loosing? You can't out chug the host. You better just Black Crystal or suicide and literally stop wasting everyone's time.
>>337664170
DS1 I would invade naked and only ninjaflip around the host as he progresses and avoid all of the attacks.
DS2 I would often invade using powerstanced ladles and poise ring.
>>337683375
Better than DaS3 so called PVP for sure.
>Invade in High Wall
>Can't find the host
>Blueberry invades while I'm searching
>Find the host and two phantoms by the elevator shortcut to Vordt
>Smack around the blueberry a bit, get him to waste some estus
>Run off, bait the blueberry into aggroing various knights and shit because he's desperate for that ear
>Have 10 HP left and no estus, basically just rolling and dodging left and right
>Blueberry is fucking pissed now
>Hide behind the red eyes knight near Emma
>Host and phantoms hang back and know better, eventually two of them leave but the blueberry stays behind
>Start throwing fireballs over the knight at the blueberry
>Run out of stuff to chuck, start waving at him
>He pulls out a crossbow and snipes the edge of my hand, killing me
You earned that ear you wonderful bastard.
>>337684087
Nobody it's just the casuals trying to look super anime badass. They're the same people who slow walk into an invasion. I keep one one me because it weighs nothing and my BKGA makes little weight useful.
>>337671721
I've been getting a lot of activity at 80. I reckon 100 should be the absolute max tho
I usually PvP via. sign so I wave when I am making my way to the opponent
If the opponent rushes me I won't go easy on them at all
They're usually R1 spamming noobs with a shield so they just gotta learn the hard way
Can someone clear something up for me regarding hollow weapons and bleed? For one, how does luck scaling with hollow weapons even work? And for two, I know bleed scales with luck, but will the bleed provided by carthus rouge on a weapon that doesnt normally have bleed also scale with luck?
>>337666282
Blues frequently lose because they're incredibly desperate for ears and do stupid shit to hunt down reds for them. Whereas reds can just invade again with no real pentalty because a handful of tongues go farther than a handful of ears.
>in DS1 undead burg
>decided to use the guardian's armor with ring of fog
>hid in the foliage of the big wood support the firebomb hollows
>for the next 10+ invasions, nobody managed to find me
Feels good
>Be a dragon
>fight opponent for bit
>they estus once they get low
>Keep fighting them
>Essentially kill them over 6 times because of all the estus
>fuck up because I'm not god
>have the defenses of a dragon (0)
>Get two shot by their hunk of metal whatever axe on a stick
>applause over my corpse like they are hot shit
People like this need to die in a fire.
>>337685248
whatever
i am still getting plenty of action at 174, i am just going to keep leveling up until max like i did in ds2
i always spam HELLO carvings before a fight and then stop half way through to say "VERY GOOD" repeatedly
>It's another "Host and Phantoms use gestures after a 3v1" episode
>>337669149
shill pls leave
>>337686905
This is a big problem with PvP for me, is Estus chugging is fucking nigh impossible to punish because of how fucking fast it is.
>>337686905
pretty sure there's no gesture he could have done to make you feel better
>wanted to restat for Soul of Cinder
>no tongues
>decide to get one quickly
>invade
>3 (THREE) fucking phantoms + host
>again
>3 bestocs
>again
>hyper armor gank
>finally get one alone
>die because I'm shit
>again
>host gets beaten by enemies before I even see him
>taunt his fucking scrub ass and enjoy my tongue
>>337686905
Could be worse
>in DS1 Dickstab Forest
>hacker invaded
>just bleed him to near death using gold tracer
>ninja flipped constantly to escape just to use divine blessing
>pulled out a talisman that explodes a purple blast that automatically stunlocked me
>backstabs me using the modded crystal greatsword that deals 9999 damage
>spams the shrug and well, what is it! Gesture, thinking he's a veteran
Do people who uses hacks are the ones who lose a lot?
>>337655439
The host deserved it for trading in an area where boss is still alive.What a fucking retard
>>337682475
i am genuinely happy for you, hate people who dont understand you want to help them
>>337666227
autism
>Invade
>Find host
>Use call over or just repeatedly tap the guard button to indicate he needs to get ready for an ass whoopin'
>His 3 phantoms show up and I get gang raped
>>337687350
Honestly I wouldn't even care if there was any way to punish or prevent it. It takes you a day and a half to throw a hunter charm and you can still immune roll those somehow. Not to mention mashing the roll button is essentially turning on god mode in this game. The fact that you can cancel a roll animation with a roll is busted as fuck.
>invade central irithyll
>hosty has 2 sunbros with him
>attack them straight on
>the host has a katana
>he occasionally parries with it
>the fight keeps going on for 5-6 mins
>we stop for a sec
>3 of them face towards me with a gap between eachother
>i run at the host thiking he would parry it
>he actually does it, i was right
>i quickly backstab him with the hornet ring
>host gets btfoed
>sunbros are shocked and they applause me before we disappear
>feelsfuckinggreat.jpg
>>337685984
Nope I'm fairly certain the keeps summoning the same incompetent fools over and over again because they can't succeed and thus the game won't move on to the next set of assholes to try
>>337687350
Throw a knife at them faggot
>>337688056
Yeah, it's retarded. Invading just isn't worth it this time around. Host has far too many advantages and no limit to Summons and the rewards aren't even worth it 90% of the time unless you're a Trophy hhore.
>>337688529
Throwing knives don't stagger. You might be able to get a kukri off for a cheap 150 damage, but even poison knives take like 4 before they actually poison and the estus animation isn't long enough for that.
>invade demon ruins
>host has a phantom
>equip my mace and bash the phantoms face in with perseverance
>host panics and falls down a hole full of lava
>>337688620
You said punish, not stagger. Throw knife, now they need to drink 2 times instead of one. They now have none left twice as fast
>>337688579
>This is true
>The only remotely fun place to invade is fucking the area after pontiff
>Everywhere else is a chore since it's YOU against full powered babies with friends.
It's still great killing them tho
>>337688529
Did you know that throwing knives have TF2 style spread on them? AKA you can try, but the game will sometimes say, "nah fuck you man".
Everything else is easy as piss to roll through, cept firebombs sometimes, because they have strange hitboxes.
>>337688830
>drinking after getting hit with a knife
>as if 100hp isn't 1/20th of the average pvp meta hp pool
>invading in crucifixion woods
>spawned at the fog gate, run around trying to find the host
>blue invades
>body his shit, all his estus to none of mine
>don't even think he hit me
>bet the host ran to the halfway fortress
>crest the hill and see him at the bonfire
>summoning another phantom
>it's a host only knows how to spam roll episode
>failed to summon phantom
>he's desperate now, summoning a mad phantom
>mad phantom bro's it up with the host and bum rushes me, host has newfound confidence
>I backup to the bottom of the hill just infront of the two undead
>they are paralyzed with fear as I spam the welcome gesture
>after a minute of gesture spam I get in a cheeky running attack
>it's on now
>shitshow erupts as the two undead join in the fight
>host is standing on the ledge above me as I swing at the phantom
>I roll out of the way as he plunging attacks his phantom buddy
>hitstun is long enough for me to get off a R2 into both of them with my astora greatsword
>phantom is dead, host is on a sliver
>host loses newfound confidence, runs and chugs his way back to the bonfire
>I have a weapon for fucks like you
>estoc comes out
>get the final blow as his next summoned phantom pops up
>connection error
>Invade in Ithryll as a purple
>Chameleon
>Wait for them to run to some mobs and then use a hunter charm
>Follow up with chaos pillar
>>337685248
nah i'm in 130 and still getting invasions and into fight clubs
>>337665804
Me.
I invaded, i didn't get summoned.
I love backstabbing in Pontiff's place because the host is usually in the middle next to two phantoms. Just get my Big black Machette out and backstab his ass.
If im being invaded, I'll usually wait for them to gesture and hit them while they are doing it.
Fuck that honor shit, you invaded me, cocksucker.
>>337653223
I'm entering someone else's game while they're trying to do other shit, of course I'm not going to play fair.
If I get invaded/invade, I'll do what I can to win.
If I summon/get summoned, I'll bow and won't chug unless they do.
If I win while I'm invading/getting invaded, I'll wave.
If I win while dueling, I'll bow.
If I come across a dark sword/estoc shitter in any situation, I'll equip my hornet ring and only go for parries and backstabs. I'll then point down and then applause when I beat them.
>demon ruins pvp
>invade 3v1 and one of them is a blueberry
>i get fucked in the ass but don't heal
>blue can smell the blood and charges right trough the curse lizards
>retard host and phantom follow him but quickly realize its a stupid idea
>i keep running to the black knight and go up the ladder
>blue doesn't care, he wants his concord
>blue is so absorb in his blood lust he doesn't see the black knight greatsword coming straight at him
>blueberry flies trough the air and dies, i think he even got one shot from full health
>error connection, returning to you world
reminder that blues cant fight at all
>>337689087
Implying hosts aren't generally stupid enough to drink twice because that 150hp "matters"
>Finally get summoned as a Dorkmoon Blade
>Host waves to me
>I wave back
>He Black Crystals me out
W-Why would you do that?
>>337653223
I curl up to confuse them. They try to attack and I roll away. I use the butchers knife for pve but as soon as I get invaded I get out my broad sword and spam r1 r1 r1 at them until they die.
>invade
>find host
>he tries to parry before every little sword swing
>abuse the fuck out of his idiocy
>takes him like 6 hits to realize I can read his parry attempts and keep punishing him for it
>parry him
>"HEY"
Was an aldritch once and killed 4 phantoms and a host.
Now I'm just invading with a new fresh character but its only gank squads and friend giving people twin swords and wolf swords at the high wall.
>>337689815
>be part of Blue Sentinels
>never get summoned
>>337690137
Also if they are wining I pull out my ether net cable.
>>337689680
>If I get invaded/invade, I'll do what I can to win.
*pull plug*->Reconnect.
So hard to win. kek.
>>337665047
I walk just because Im in no hurry. Do people really think walking makes them look scary?
>>337665804
nigga Im here for a group fight, not to be someone's spectator event
>>337655423
autism
>>337653223
>Get summoned as red in Iron Keep
>Gank group as usual, but they didn't close the door
>run further in, but they killed all the mobs
>at the narrow bridge where the two turtles are
>fuck what do i do
>conceal myself by the door on the edge
>2 phantoms run past me
>see host climbing up ladder
>take out talisman
>FORCE
This is my go to for stupid gank squads now.
>Drop down a sunbro sign at Irithyll of the Boreal Valley.
>As usual get picked up right away.
>The host is being chased by a red phantom with a whip.
>Nigger do i look like a blue sentinel?
>I put away my weapon and walk to the bonfire and sit down.
>The host is getting chased around the fountain and he is running for his life
>When forced into a corner he actually does well and drives his attacker back.
>The both pull back and chug estus
>The host continues to run like a pansy trying to pick up summon signs
>Whenever they clash i am more convinced the host could win the fight.
>This goes on for far too long.
>Eventually the host manages to summon another phantom.
>He looks at the host, the invader and then me. >Instead of aiding the host, like me he sits at the fire.
>It was easy to tell that the host was pissed.
>With the invader hot at his heels he cirlces us at the bonfire.
>Out of spite he even tries attacking us.
>It costs him a smack with the invaders whip.
>Dispite the fact the host was keeping us between him and the invader the red phantom did not attack us.
>Things get quite messy but the host finally runs off again after he is backstabbed.
>He then seriously tries to beat the invader.
>It was a long brutal fight, incredibly close.
>Most of the time it wes the invader who broke off to chug estus first.
>The fighting well finally loses to the invader.
>By doing nothing i like to think i gave the host the confidence to fight invaders himself.
>>337667567
>unkindled one, marry Anri
>but I don't like bacon
>this ring makes you not bacon
>I'm actually bacon myself
>I want to marry your bacon
>>337658203
This. Invasions didn't feel like "PvP" in the way they do now. I loved the sense of dread of having way too many souls, and knowing that there was a cunt lurking around ready to fuck me up the ass. Invading was tons of fun in DeS because it was never meant to be balanced in the first place.
It's one of the reasons why DeS is my favorite game, it's a single player experience where an invader can sometimes fuck you up. DaS is too focused on PvP, which is retarded given how crappy its combat is for it.
>>337683983
just use separating crystal if its more than 2 dudes
>MFW I can't even enjoy invading anything else other than purple do to the host being a little bitch.
Fuck
BTW, which the demon axe worth it?
I like it, but the range is not Yhorm's. Also lighter and it lets me put on some armor for once.
>>337691239
Wouldn't using it get you banned after a lot of uses?
>>337691045
> Dark Souls 2
Please fuck off.
>almost losing to a whip
Jesus christ how embarrasing
I ran to that illusory wall with the dogs at Aldritch's. Used chameleon and sticked to the side.
2-3 guy immediately went down the ladder, and then I would remove chameleon and just stare at them. The invader would stare back, knowing he was fucked if he did anything at all.
It's not exciting, just retarded and funny. One went down to try and bait me, I used a seed and he got killed by the dogs. Another one invaded me while I was down there, almost killed him twice but he healed, then backed up to the dogs thinking to gank me. I ran like mad to the ladder while he got munched on by the dogs.
>>337691130
This is just the feeling you get when you're playing through your first souls game. I know when I first picked it up and heard about getting invaded I thought to myself "Wait, the game's already hard enough, you mean people play JUST to fuck with other players?" but then I got gud and dealing with invasions became less of a hassle, I knew when not to be walking around with a lot of souls, and I knew how to play the game.
The PvP hasn't changed, the players have just gotten better and there aren't as many new people who have that immense fear of getting attacked. Sure min maxers/grass munchers/havel dads/dorkmoon blade estoc duelers all suck, but it's not like shitters didn't exist in DeS too, that's just your nostalgia clouding your judgement.
>>337666887
top kek
>>337667089
How do you do that on ps4
>>337691840
>you will never scrape the shit out of someone's shit ever again
>get invaded at sl200 on the bridge leading to Yaoi Brothers
>haven't seen them yet so I take the elevator to Archives bonfire so as to not risk souls
>after a few minutes I ride the elevator back up to check on them
>they were waiting at the top
>they roll into the elevator before realising that I was a greatsworder and promptly disconnect
>mfw
>>337663545
My slab Sqauting brother do you also drop dung pies?
>>337691840
Oh definitely, shitters were in DeS too. I don't even buy the whole sonygger shit of "muh grorious sony community". My point is that PvP was never a focus in the game as it is now, where you even have covenants dedicated to it and more available players. There was a point at which you couldn't help but carry plenty of souls, in the latter areas.
>>337666316
It takes more skill killing three that use any advantage over one person who limits themselves faggot
>>337665804
>Kick the host off the ledge after pontiff for shits and giggles
>get rushed by the whole fight club
Every time
>>337668362
>be darkmoon
>The host is Guts
>The Red Phantom is also GutsAnd im Guts too
>>337664091
>Shadbase
>>337653223
>Ds1- Bow based on covenant (dickwraiths don't bow)
>Ds2- Don't bow but if enemy does I won't attack
>Ds3- Don't bow, first to successfully strike is usually the victor
If Ds3 had poise like Ds1 I'd bow everytime but if you leave yourself open when a dagger can stunlock you in heavy armor then you're just presenting your ass and consenting to the pounding
I once fucked up a gank squad and a stupid invader who sided with them ,not sure why the chose to not gang up on me all at once.
>>337694010
>Summon guts into my world
>He's a fuck using katana and dark blade
every time
There is no point to Invading in DaS3 what so ever, at all.
>Embers are easily obtainable
>Host has more Health
>Host has nearly double Estus
>Host can Summon phantoms and Summoning phantoms requires no sort of commitment other than to stand still for a millasecond and mash X as hard as you can
>Host can summon an infinite amount of phantoms without penalty
>Host can turn mobs against Invaders with an easily obtainable item
>90% of Invasions will be 2v1
>Covenant rewards for Invaders are hot dogshit
Literally what is the point.
>invade host and his two phantoms
>this is before nameless king with the bell ringing, so it's rainy and there's the fog you can stand on before the boss fight
>kill two of his phantoms that I've knocked down and followed into that fog area you can't come back from
>host just stands there and I can't climb back up to hit him
>he summons BOTH again
>all three of them jump down to try and get me
>win
lel
>>337695329
To prove I am their better in every virtual way then touch myself all over while I read their hate mail again and again. Fucking casual
Why the fuck cant blues fight for shit? Step up your fucking games.
>Swamp
>Equip Upgraded Blessed gear
>Get nude
>Dry finger and curl up
>I've not established a Sentinel PvP area, And reds will have a hard as shit time to find me
>Blues still lose 8 times outa 10
>invade a host with 2 phantoms
>run down the stairs after getting swarmed
>the host dies to the skeleton ball
How embarrassing.
>>337695732
I had a blueberry that was afk, it was fun kicking him off the ledge.
>mfw invader thinks I owe him a fair fight
get ready to be stunlocked to death with my estoc you fucking loser
>>337695732
blues never get to practice because they never get summoned
>>337695732
>>Equip Upgraded Blessed gear
Does the HP reg get stronger the more upgraded it is?
>>337695329
i like the hunt, and i like fucking with people. even if i dont win, its still amusing sometimes. more often than not i just try and spam 'im sorry' carvings and lure people into traps. obviuously were never going to have DaS1 summoning again because that was incredibly unbalanced for noobs. even if it was the most fun
>>337696780
The regen itself doesn't but the time it takes to tick decreases with each upgrade.
>>337653223
>Be nana's shade
>Operate under the co-op rule of zealously defending my host until they reach a checkpoint
>Get summoned into profaned capital
>Host standing there with a sunbro
>Both try and attack me, I just roll around to show I'm not harmful
>Eventually go over to a ladder and start going down
>Sunbro, still charging after me, tries to attack and goes flying off the edge
>PHANTOM RANDOMER HAS DIED
>Wander back up the ladder
>Host comes out swinging for "revenge"
>Get back on the ladder
>He flies right past me and meets the same squishy fate
>OBJECTIVE MET
I really need to post the webm.
>>337695893
>Kicking the shit out of a guy in that area as an invader
>He rolls away with 15 HP
>As I roll after him I get run over by the skeleball
>It rolls back over me to finish me off
My that was embarassing.
>>337695732
The one blue I ever encountered got fucking bodied within seconds, it was kind of hilarious.
>OH BOY HERE I AM TO DISPENSE JUSTI-
>Target destroyed
>>337695329
Same reason to invade in bloodborne: it's fucking fun.
>>337653872
>host starts chugging
>expects you to chug
>don't ever chug
>push his shit in anyway
Feels beast
So guys it's probably 5 months until i upgrade my rig and play this game
Will the online still be active by then?
>>337683386
Do autists actually enjoy watching others play I never understood this? Only twitch I watched was that dude killing 100 gank squads in a row
The absolute madman at it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iztSqpIb3hA
GG From
>>337697815
The DLC will probably drop around then, so chances are you'll be joining in right when a lot of people come back to try that out.
This item is an example of good idea, bad execution. Does anyone use it in PvP?
>>337653223
why is this dark souls 3 so shit optimised?
Anyone got that PvP weapon tier list image for 3?
The one that compares skill to use with viability?
>>337668060
force, emit force and wrath of the gods are all wayyyy too slow to be any good.
>Have a designated Catacombs of Carthus grapist named Indiana Bones
>Invade near boss fog
>Destroy bridge
>Place a prism stone next to broken bridge to ensure that they walk up and trigger the skeleton horde
>Hide behind stalagmite in side path and wait to strike
>When the time comes open with a hunter charm
>Spam whip's spasm attack to keep enemies at bay while skelebros fuck them from behind
>Bonus points if they took the shortcut and Tsorig invades
>Spam rejoice as the host and his phantoms get torn to shreds by the sheer number of skellies
>If that fails fall back to the bridge for some ladder shenanigans
From there a number of things can happen:
>Host and Co. file onto ladder, trapping their buddy while I knock them off to their death
>They try to swing at me from top of the ladder and slide off the edge
>Host runs for the boss and I try to do as much damage as possible before getting sent home
Has anyone else tried using whips in PvP? I love them for their absurd range and nonsensical hit detection, but from what i've seen they're pretty shit at everything else except status procs.
>>337700103
I've toyed around with them for a bit. They aren't half bad if you know what you are doing but I wouldn't use them as your primary weapon.
>>337691052
Honestly people like you should fuck off.
I don't care that much about who does what in online mode, but if you're going to be summoned to help another player, help the fucking guy. The hell do you mean "give the host confidence"? You let him get killed, regardless of whether he got a few hits on the invader or not. Don't be such a fag about it.
The only invaders I hate are those laggy ones.
Like really, what the fuck, the parry animation plays and the guy just rolls away, same with backstabs.
And then you suddenly get hit for 80% of your life.
That wouldnt be a problem if I would use estoc or any other fast attacking straight sword, but Im using Profaned so fuck you.
>>337665804
>get summoned to fight club
>sit down with a few guys watching a fight
>host rushes 3 of us out of nowhere
>kills 2 instantly
>I back up from him
>the 2 guys fighting each other also start killing me
I was very confused by the whole situation.
>>337665467
I guess this is why I smash anyone I run into who is from Japan when I check their profile. They're garbage at the game. They think straight swords are overpowered lmao. What is parrying?
Why are Japs so bad at video games?
>>337700392
Yeah, my main weapon for fighting is a Scimitar. I use the whip for cc and general annoyance, and I have a caestus off-hand + bandit knife for light attack spammers.
>>337700741
Turning on voice chat and calling them korean dogs makes it all worth it. Dear god they get pissed
>Done almost 3 characters in a row now
>Starting to lose drive to play any DS3 at all
>Considering DOOM
I really need to learn to cut back so i dont get bored.
Can I use cheat engine to lower my SL or do I HAVE to make another character?
Also, is there another Wiki than the fucking fextralife one?
>>337691052
I only BC out of gank parties because I don't feel like ganking with the host. You're a douche.
>>337701551
I mean you CAN, if you like softbans
And no, There isnt a better one atleast.
>>337653223
When I invade, I hello stone. When invaded, i'll bow if the invader does.
>>337664308
Sometimes I invade into a world where the host's already gone into the boss fight.
At which point I stand by the fog wall and spam "HEY" repeatedly, and drop carvings. They always die.
>bow
>not using Joy or hurrah gesture
>>337653223
Just yesterday I got a couple of magnificent host picks while being ganked solo, and worked with another phantom to dismantle a few four man ganks. There was this one guy in Kiln who I would never quite finish off because he always ran behind the fog door when his phantom inevitably died, hope I encounter him again.
>>337701180
It's From's fault really, the game isn't that great. Game is the most linear souls game, has probably the second worst covenants, half of them not working. No reason to do NG+ what-so-ever, Invading is worthless because of odds stacked so in-favor of hosts and rewards being shit.
>>337659130
It's better on PC, having played it on PC and PS4.
I only like gank squads if they do something special with their 4v1 shit.
>>337674541
Fuck you
>>337702301
>no reason to NG+
Oh. You don't know about the rings then.
That's more reason than DS1 gave you after all.
>>337700103
I get hit by them mid roll
I get absolutely shit on with with whips in PvP because I can't get close to the guy
>>337702301
The thing about it being Linear is if I want to make a new character I can't bee line for my class gear like I could in Ds2 and then enjoy a playthrough with an effective build for my character type really early in the game. I have to wait until end game to get most of my gear so the playthrough is dull and monotonous.
>>337702674
>minuscule ring effect increases
nah
PSA: At 35 dex and base luck stay, bleed is absolutely destroying people with the warden twin blades. Throw on a carthus rouge and that shit will provide every couple of combos, just keep the pressure on. This shit is so op why aren't more people using it?
>>337703095
>implying it isn't worth NG+2 for the ring of favor and protection alone
>>337703196
Because bleed is old and busted, buffed twinblades is the new hotness. You need to get people in two combos to kill them with that, buffed twinswords deals 1200+ damage in one r1>l2>r2
Both are hard countered by a quality build who has discovered the duel charm though.
>>337702996
You can skip to lothric castle if your gud enough. And from there, grand archives and such. You just don't want to go there?