I bought this recently since I wanted to get into the SMT series before SMTIV Apocalypse and Persona 5 comes out. Anything I should really know before going into it as a person that has only basic knowledge of the combat system in most SMT games, their average settings, and nothing else?
>>337641768
It's going to be really tough in the beginning but don't get discouraged. Once you pass a certain point it gets much easier.
If you want to make a physical build go DEX, STR is useless.
It can be frustrating early in the game, because both you and the enemy are basically glass cannons, if an enemy gets an ambush on you they have a good chance of flat-out wiping you. It evens out later.
Be sure to try and recruit as many demons as possible, both for party members and for fusion fodder.
>>337641768
The whole game does not take place in a back water japan
>>337641768
Isabeau betrays you.
>>337641768
fusion is really important, try to fuse demons that have high HP if you keep dying
>>337643018
Considering the title screen places her on the chaos side along with Walter, I think I sorta predicted that already. Still would prefer not being spoiled insanely bad though.
>>337641768
You don't need to play any SMT to play Persona, but you should be fine starting off with IV before Apoc.
>>337641768
USE BUFFS
>>337643814
I know that the story doesn't really connect at all unless you count the insane timelines, but I want to get use to SMT's main gameplay mechanics. Unless I'm very mistaken, Persona has a lot of elements taken from the mainline series.
>>337643427
Where the fuck are you seeing this?
>>337644458
Str is useless, buffs are important, Minotaur will likely kick your ass, don't get discouraged, fuse often and don't get attached to your demons
That's about all you need to know
>>337645481
>>337644330
>using buffs
You guys can't be serious
>>337642202
FUCKING SHIT I PUT 80 POINTS INTO STR FUCK CAN I RESPEC?
HOY
>>337645657
Not that I know of
If you're going neutral you should just go to 100 str for a nice bonus later one, if not then just switch over to dex
>>337643427She doesn't in the neutral route, but good luck getting it
>>337645657
Eh don't worry, you get enough points to up your stats to crazy levels anyways
Just ignore agility or luck a bit more than you normally would
You spoiled on the twist already OP?
>>337646304
There's a twist? What is it?
>>337641768
these are all you need to know to make SMT4 the easiest game ever:
- every time you level up, invest 1 point into AGI, 1 into LCK, and 3 into DEX
- STR is made obsolete by DEX because DEX boosts physical MP-consuming skills more
- Guns are preferred over swords because they can exploit elemental weaknesses and are boosted by DEX
- keep in mind that the equipped gun or sword has no affect on the damage of physical MP-consuming skills
- stat buff skills are essential to have in your party when fighting bosses. They can be stacked and cannot be resisted
- healing and buff skills are independent of the MAG stat, so feel free to learn some support skills on the MC
- always constantly be fusing your demons to make them more powerful
- aim to get the MP Recovery and Demon Skill Slot upgrades quickly
- learn the Charge skill. It will increase your next attack damage by 2.5x
- fuse Alice when you reach level 49 for the Deliberate skill
- fuse Jeanne D´Arc when you reach level 49 for the Luster Candy skill
- fuse Mahamayuri when you reach level 60 for the Salvation skill
- fuse Demonee-Ho when you reach level 75 for the Desperate Hit skill
>>337647603
I'm gonna start soul hackers soon, should I still put 3 into dex
>>337647603
I think magic builds are better. The ability to hit weaknesses throughout the midgame means lots of press turns, not to mention you'll absolutely destroy whoever you come across even if they null everything. Late game, pop almighty spells and blast whatever resists.
Or grab Die For Me! and Judgement Light and have two 100% party wide instakills, that works too.
>>337646985
If you don't know it why the hell would you ask what it is?
So how are you expected to beat this fucker?
I beat him just yesterday after he pushed my shit in quite a few times. Ended up going back to higher levels in Naraku just to get the demons to fuse Fortuna to get Sukukaja to stand a chance. And even then it was largely up to luck that a demon I need wouldn't get KO'd on the first turn.
>>337645573
No. Buffs are really important in SMT.
>>337652714
Shit, forgot the pic.
>>337652812
Get defensive and agility buffs
Nuke him down with Bufu
Hope you don't get most unlucky
>>337649503
Luck is the most worthwhile stat to raise for Soul Hackers' MC because it makes demon negotiations easier and he can't use magic.
>>337652921
Yeah, that's how I did finally beat him. I was just wondering if it was incorrect to already be so dependent on the RNG not fucking you over.
>tfw I beat Nocturne with True Demon Ending and played through a fair amount of DDS and I still end up getting the shit beat out of me with the opening hours of SMTIV
>>337653096
If you got past Medusa too you should be fine for most of the rest of the game
>>337646052
Seriously, don't say that. I literally put all of the points into Strength, Agility and Luck. 80 each.
>>337641768
Since Persons and Raidouh (sp?) don't count, this was the first SMT game I beat. I did have 35h in Nocturne, but I kept pausing it. On a side note, I've picked it back up, and I'm nearly done. Just fought the 3 angels in Mifanushiro.
As far as SMT IV goes: Minotaur and Medusa will push your shit in. You're going to cry foul about it and swear the game is bullshit. I think this is somewhat true but once you beat them, the game is easy sailing.
Advice: Spam fusions constantly. This is the easiest way to get stronger. I prioritized buying the abilities from Burroughs that allowed me to fuse demons that were higher level than me.
Don't buy equips. I used the Doom guy armor for the entire game cause it looked cool, and I kept to the chainsaw I found because the OHKO procced a lot.
Have a focused team but keep it varied. I love physical teams that help each other out with Rakunda+Tarukaja and eventually Luster Candy, but you will enchanter phys-resist bosses so it's good to know some spells.
I never used guns. Kept it str/vit, but I think that will be criticized for being boring. I'm somewhat still of a noob to the series so anyone feel free to correct me.
>>337652812
Bufula, no?
>>337653812
>str/vit
Str is useless in IV as physical scales only scale with Dex
And there is no Vit stat in IV
>>337654090
>No vit
I'm a dirty cunt and liar. My bad. After reading this thread, I can't believe Str is useless. I did 3str/2agi per level.
I'm just trying to make the fiends appear because I wanto to fight them, I think I'm on the endgame.
So this is my stats
I'm fine or not?
>>337656456
Dman I forgot to include the picture
Pic related is my Flynn
STR isn't useless, it's pointless.
>>337654746
>>337656590
What does it mean when the stats are blue?
>>337657442
Maxed out
>>337657592
So then is it pointless to keep putting points into it? It's been awhile so maybe I'm asking a stupid question.
>>337657653
You can't put anymore points, silly.
>>337658445
Ah dang. Now I feel dumb.
Is worth to try to hunt all the fiends?
>>337659250
No. Do it anyway.
>>337659250
matador has a pretty amazing accessory if I remember correctly
I ignored all the others.
>>337654746
how come you were capped at 200 when this guy isn'tn >>337656590
>>337658581
>>337659348
You can keep dumping. There are just different caps
