What are you expecting from Zelda 2017?
>>337614671
A game that would have been good in 2013 but is lacking in 2017
>>337614671
A 2018 release date.
Man that is one hilariously long sword.
a fine looking grass simulator
Dissapointment and an open world lacking in content.
>>337615193
the only thing here lacking in content is your sex life
>>337615093
that's what she said
Stale gameplay.
>>337614671
Probably a bug catching sidequest and a fishing minigame, and a collection quest for some arbitrary number of items with a disappointing pay off.
>>337614671
A family friendly version of the Witcher 3
>>337614671
Rolling green hills with the occasional landmark and throwaway quest
Way underfunded for an open world RPG
If it was on a decent selling system? Probably high hopes
I'm expecting nothing. All we know is that the field is big.
>>337617138
>If it was on a decent selling system? Probably high hopes
You know the sales already? Does your dad work for Sony?
>>337614671
Censored the game.
>>337617892
Well I'm a different asshole: But the NX has sold exactly 0 units.
So Zelda U needs to motivate people to buy the system, rather than just being a game that they'd also like to pick up. That's always a hurdle.
I hope there's a day-night system we can control because I could never stand looking into that sunset.
>>337614671
pain
All of the dungeons to be boring combat hallways with no interesting puzzles because the developers decided an "open world" was more important than good level design, and me abandoning the series.
>>337614671
nothing. I already know ot's going to be shit.
Disappointment
NX version having superior graphics
That's about it.
I expect not to be able to discuss this game reasonably because of the attached baggage with the delay/NX release. Case in point: this very thread.
>>337615856
I'd be extremely surprised if it even was one fourth as good as Witcher 3.
>>337615093
It's at least interesting that they start off by showing Link with a two handed sword. This suggest a non-traditional opening.
>>337618704
>All of the dungeons to be boring combat hallways with no interesting puzzles
Which, if done right, would make them more like the NES games, making them better than the vast majority of dungeons in the series.
So any legit reason for your pessimism or are you just riding the current Nintendo hatewave?
It to feel like a game that would have been amazing in 2011
prompts telling me how much a rupee is worth every time i pick one up
I have ecstatic high hopes but I keep them under wraps for now.
>>337619853
The developers evidently think the Item shop from LBW was anything but a fucking disaster and keep talking about how Zelda U will be non-linear; no way in hell are we getting a good game if that's actually what they think.
>>337614671
A complete failure.
like skyward sword but with more filler and tutorial prompts
>>337614671
TOO BE FUCKING RELEASED ALREADY.
Now seriously I don't give a flying fuck, There are several fantasy RPGS that does open world better that Zelda will ever make them. IF (BIG IF) Nintendo manage to make the combat interesting I may dust my Wii U and buy Zelda or if is actually great hell I may buy an NX for it but is being a long time since a good Zelda with good combat and the novelty of open world games is completely gone when now open world games is kinda like the norm for most games anyway.
>>337614671
im expecting some parts to be great, but others bad enough that it will have players questioning "why did this happen?"
things like wind waker having nothing worth exploring.
wolf link never learning more moves in twilight princess.
just general questions that make you wonder whats going on at nintendo and if testers or other employees aren't allowed to speak up.
>>337614671
every time nintendo delays a game it turns out terrible
>>337614835
what if every new game is just shittier than the last one?
>>337620141
Pretty much. They don't the fans want something 'open', but don't seem to actually care about free exploration and what that entails. There will probably be quest markers galore, and very little "holy shit, did I just stumble upon a late game dungeon"?
>>337617486
That's a big sword.
>>337619231
Pretty much.
>>337614835
>Zelda Cycle
>Not realizing that Zelda has been on a downward trend since the release of aLttP.
>>337620884
Link's Awakening was better than LTTP though, and OoT, OoA, MC, TP, andFSAwere all on par with it.
>>337620498
>Nintendo manage to make the combat interesting
That's the one thing that will never happen.
The only thing that Zelda has over your average open world RPG is actual level design.
>>337620884
LttP isn't even as good as the NES games.
reviewers acting like they're doing some brave truth-telling when they give the game an 8
>>337621038
I don't consider the handheld games part of the mainline series. Fuck handhelds. OoT was not that bad but it had a lot of problems mainly because of the newness of the 3D development, MM,WW,TP and SS where all worse than their predecessors.
I expect it to be only average at the dungeons, and the overworld to be bare.
And about 10 FPS on the WiiU.
>>337620780
For Wii U
>>337621169
>actual level design
>when Zelda is jumping on the Open World meme
>>337621169
>That's the one thing that will never happen.
That sad thing about this is how easily they could. 3D Zelda has basically the most responsive combat system in a 3D action game outside of Ninje Gaiden, shit like Dark Link, WW Ganon and Ghirahim show the potential the system has to pull of sword duels, but they simply choose to not take advantage of this.
>>337621186
people have different tastes, who'da thunk it?
i personally think Zelda only really got into gear with LTTP and from then until TP produced almost exclusively quality games besides MM and WW, then started to degenerate, but hey, that's just me!
>>337621289
>it had a lot of problems mainly because of the newness of the 3D developmen
Like, what? There are few games that pull off interacting with a 3D environment as well as it at all.
>>337621447
2D Zeldas aren't any better.
Censorship
Memes
Starved Nintendrones defending their delayed hotgarbage
Empty boring world
Shitty NX port
Easy awful combat
Dull puzzles and dungeons
>>337621526
But they are, they just have actually aggressive or otherwise unpredictable enemies. You can't strafe around holding your shield up all day.
>>337614671
I'm expecting disappointment and a strong desire to just go back and play LoZ1.
I'm never gonna get another enigmatic experience in a world both strange yet familiar..
>>337621447
What pissed me off most about SS was the steps backwards they took from TP's system.
They went from an actual moveset to putting the round peg in the round hole.
>>337614671
>What are you expecting from Zelda 2017?
New porn.
Never playing it.
Never buying a Nintendo console.
>>337614671
cell shaded skyrim but with gerudo's instead of dragons
>>337614671
Worse than Skryrim.
>>337620512
I like how you have no idea how game companies work.
>>337621289
So to reiterate you only consider the first 3 games in the series worthwhile. That's pretty retarded.
>>337614671
I'm expecting to be able to emulate it through CEMU.
>>337621593
I love this weird confirmation bias you kids use to make sure you're "always right". Any argument simply gets dismissed as "Nintendo defense force" which means you automatically get to be 100% right all the time without having to defend your argument. This is some high grade arrogance right here.
>>337614671
>expectations
NX seller
Ys tier combat and action
Vast beautiful stylized open world
Engaging dungeons with challenging enemies
Seldom npcs wandering around in a similar manner to Souls with questlines
Great optional content
Only on /v/ are Zelda discussions this fucking bizarro world where the only good game was Zelda 1 and the next 30 years were sloppy retreads.
>>337621684
No they aren't.
If the 3D combat is an annoying waiting game, the 2D one is mindless button mashing.
Both shit, pick your poison.
I'm expecting the same level of disappointment as SS. The delays weren't worth it before, and they sure as hell won't be worth it this time.
What they said they do. If they do that, at least they stuck to their word, assuming they don't decide to publicly announce any changes prior which is fine, as long as they announce it.
>>337614671
I'm still amazed that we haven't seen Green Tunic Link yet. Maybe the Hero's Tunic isn't in this game.
>>337622201
Hipsters aren't satisfied with fellating MM and LA to feel special anymore so they moved to older shit. Nothing strange.
To play it last year
>>337622265
In the 2D ones there still a chance of enemies fucking your shit up if you lose concentration and don't counter them. In 3D there's usually nothing preventing you from either jsut holding shield or being thoughtlessly agressive, depending on the enemy. The few enemies that might have otherwise been a threat can't do shit all damage to you by the time you get to them.
>>337622372
How do they expect to have a difficulty curve if they don't even know in what order the player's doing the dungeons?
>>337614671
a bland western wide as a ocean as deep as a puddle rpg with zelda elements
social links
>>337622201
No one is claiming that here.
>>337622490
Maybe the hero's tunic is what you get at the end of the game, kinda like minish cap where you wore a hat that wasn't actually THE hat and then you get THE hat when they make you realize you don't want another hat except the talking one...
Fuck I miss Ezlo, he's so underrated.
>>337622708
That's, the whole, fucking point of letting the player do dungeons in many orders. You have the difficulty curve anyway and just let the player fuck themselves over trying to complete later dungeons early if they want, just how it was in the first game.
>>337614845
>I know because I've seen it and played it. My dad works atSEGA
>>337622708
they won't just like every post fallout 3 western rpg enjoy your boring easy as all fuck game
>>337622984
That isn't how it worked in LBW though; all of the dungeons were just as difficult as each other but because the player was getting more heart containers and upgrading their gear the game was getting easier.
>>337614671
For it to die with dignity
But we all know that will never happen
ZELDA 2100 INCOMING
>>337614671
I am expecting it to be fun.
I remember dropping Skyward Sword around 75% completion the first time around I played it. Finding it very dull and boring. But I recently replayed it from beginning to end and actually finished it 100% this time since I wanted to actually finish it before Twilight Princess HD that I felt like replaying (in what I had hoped would just be a few months away from Zelda U but I guess not).
either way. To my surprise I actually had quite a lot of fun playing Skyward Sword this time around. In spite of not being particularly fond of the game at all when I last dropped it. Perhaps I am just more lenient towards how slow the game is now that I have far less to do with my days and life in general, or perhaps just because I am older.
I am still surprised though because in general I enjoy games far less than I used to, so replaying a game I used to dislike and actually ending up liking it quite a bit caught me off guard.
On that topic though, playing Twilight Princess HD right after having just completed Skyward Sword, really highlighted the things Skyward Sword actually did right. Because in spite of its many flaws you'll immediately miss the things it did right when hopping over to Twilight Princess where it's sorely missing.
I still enjoyed playing Twilight Princess HD again though, and had a lot of fun playing Skyward Sword. So I am almost sure I'll have a good time with Zelda U/NX as well. Even though we could have probably have gotten the game much earlier than we're ultimately getting it. .
>>337619604
The game will be 4 times bigger so l hope you ready
>>337614671
GOATY,that's what Nintendo must think it is since they think it's enough to carry them at e3 despite the negative PR
>>337623054
That's because LBW is stupid and missed the point.
I would just be happy if I liked it more than TP (dull) and SS (tedious).
>>337623374
>Nintendo must think it is since they think it's enough to carry them at e3
This is actually the thing that give me the biggest hope. If Nintendo is willing to do this, they must be confident they've gotten shit right and can actually hold up Zelda as among the best adventure games once again.
>all that bloom
IT'S OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT!
>>337623249
This, right here.
At some point TP actually felt more uninteresting and boring than SS. SS flaws were visible, everyone knows that, but fuck it was fun to play and do shit, it was full of highs and lows but at least it kept me going. TP became very boring at some point and then continued being boring despite having awesome items and stuff that was sadly underused.
I had more fun playing SS on hero mode for some reason and it wasn't really the double damage or no heart drops, I think the second playthrough felt overall much better than the first, maybe because of the aptitude acquired at swinging during the first time.
>>337623054
ALBW is perfectly fine if you play in Hero Mode, which gives the game a decent base difficulty.
>>337614671
Female Link, little to no challenge, no grit even during the finale, and disappointment
Tacked on features, open world nonsense at the expense of world building, and for the U version to be made a blatant downgrade to try and push the NX version.
I want Zelda U to be the second coming of Christ, but my faith in Nintendo has wavered over the last year and a half.
Zelda
>boring ass combat
>boring ass puzzles
>tedious dungeons
Why do you like these games?
>>337622201
No, LoZ1 wasn't the only good one but I'd honestly like a return to a world like that.. a world without stupid NPCs and modern Nintendo crap.
>>337623249
It's fascinating how tastes diverge when it comes to Zelda. I'm playing TPHD myself right now, and I've arrived at the conclusion that it's an awesome game that makes a bad first impression but gets better a few hours in and that's been judged really unfairly. Meanwhile I tried replaying SS with a few Action Replay codes to speed up the text and remove the item pick-up text, and I STILL couldn't do it without feeling physically ill.
>ZeldAonuma
>>337624028
Because we have too much free time in our hands
>>337623901
I played Hero Mode myself, and I didn't really think it was any better, honestly. Regardless of how easy the start/end of the game in isolation are, games should never get easier as you progress further, which happened in LBW both in my first playthrough and in Hero Mode. Besides, you can't play Hero Mode on your first playthrough of LBW anyway.
8 -> 6 is just as unacceptable as 4 -> 2.
>>337624192
Did that sound clever and witty in your head before typing it?
>>337614671
>Bloom
>Clipping
>Texture popping
Is this supposed to be impressive or something ?
>>337624192
>the Aonuma bogeyman
>The only good thing about skyward sword is that theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN1vFESbfZk
>>337614671
I expect the same boring combat and puzzles that make a coloring book look hard
>>337624675
Still makes my hair stand. When they can they just do amazing things.
>>337624707
it is for kids so it must suck, anon
>>337624189
That is interesting. Because I promise you that when I played Twilight Princess at release and Skyward Sword at release, I loved Twilight Princess and as stated ended up dropping Skyward Sword.
But replaying Skyward Sword and then playing Twilight Princess HD, my opinion is now reversed. Even though I still had lots of fun with Twilight Princess.
That said I still can't stand how Skyward Princess pauses the game every time you pick up any little thing. Or the incredibly slow and railroaded beginning/tutorial of the game. Or Fi not shutting up ever.
On the topic of Fi though. I hate her for nagging on me all the time, or her repeating herself. But I did read what Fi had to say about every NPC and enemy in the game this time around, and I actually grew kind of fond of her observations even though I can really feel like hating her in other situations. But really though, I wish I could make Midna comment on every NPC and enemy of Twilight Princess, because is and always was amazing.
So I no doubt have lots of love and hate towards Skyward Sword . But I will say that just moving around has never been as fun and pleasing as in Skyward Sword as far as 3D Zelda is concerned. Sprinting feels satisfying, and the jumping/parkour actually feels sensible. Unlike all previous 3D Zelda games, if Link should reasonable be able to jump to and or reach a platform, he most likely can reach/climb over over it in Skyward Princess. Unlike previous games where there are tons of tiny walls that you can't even attempt to climb and so on.
>>337614835
>le zelda bicycle may may ecksdee
wind waker is still a piece of shit, always was, always will be
aonuma is a fucking retard
twilight princess was ocarina of time rehash without the most important parts of that game, colour, charm and time travel that affects the world
Ocarina of time still is and forever will be the greatest videogame ever made for the sole purpose of the infinitely downard spiral that is modern gaming as a rapid growing shit about business only, the only game that got me remotely faithful about the next generation of game developers was Nier but then I got to know the retard that made that game and how his "underrated masterpiece" is nothing more than a bunch of ideas thrown there without much thought, so he 90% had just a streak of luck and Nier automata will be fucking shit.
Zelda died with Majora's Mask
>>337625274
Wind Waker is the best 3d Zelda since Majora's Mask.
>>337625278
Minish Cap and the Oracles were great. Why do people keep forgetting the handheld titles?
>>337625398
I didn't like Minish cap as much as the earlier entries.
Did Oracles came after MM?
>>337625398
Because they're casuals.
ALink Between Worlds was great too. And fuck you if you say otherwise. Oracles still best though.
>>337625514
Yeah they did
>>337625565
>Im fucking plying TLOZ has ever been for non casuals
Fuck off fuckboi
>>337625565
No, fuck youI liked all of them but I think Oracles are the best too and would love to see them with the minish cap engine. I think it looks better than the ALBW one because of the way it was designed.
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, despite being clunky, actually had some fresh ideas in them that will never be made again despite not actually interfering with regular types of gamplay, such a shame.
BEST ZELDA
>>337620780
>>337621368
underrated
>>337614671
So much bloom that you can't see anything lol
>>337614671
TOTAL GLOBAL BLOOMINATION
I am marginally excited for it but every delay has made me more and less interested in it. Skyward Sword was a relic, dated combat, dated puzzles, and still as easy and childish as any other Zelda. I believe that they could change things with this game for the better, but I don't think they actually will because that is not their demographic.
I'm probably gonna get shitposted to death for saying this but I'm much more excited for Bloodborne 2 (or what Miyazaki's next PS4 game is) or Gravity Rush 2 - even Horizon Zero Dawn looks phenomenal as long as they get the gameplay right.
The thing is though I grew up with Nintendo/SEGA but they have just let themselves, sort of... rot, and become ancient. SEGA I have almost no interest in apart from Yakuza and Nintendo well I was interested in Xenoblade X but after spending 2 hours with it at one of my best mates houses, it seems like they focused on the worst parts of Xenoblade and put them as the focus in X.
So yeah TL;DR I am marginally excited for Zelda after all the delays, I'm actually looking forward to Bloodborne 2 or GR 2 or Horizon Zero Dawn more at this point. And have fallen off the Nintendo bandwagon as of late because of disappointment but still am hyped a little for Zelda.
I really want Hero Mode available out of the box and not unlocked after beating it
>>337614671
Not much.
I just wanted to say that every Zelda is basically the same game, with only minor differences between titles, so seeing people praise one as the greatest game ever and shitting on another filled with hate always cracks me up.
>>337614671
>What are you expecting from Zelda 2017?
People calling Zelda 2018
>>337623249
skyward sword is legitimately underrated. it's a great game and while it has its issues, they're mostly balanced by incredible moments and gameplay tweaks
but twilight princess is horribly boring. it's a hundred times easier than SS and has no imagination to it. easily the worst 3d zelda and the only one i legitimately dislike
>>337614671
Disappointment.
>>337627890
>dated combat
Your argument started crumbling there.
SS had a whols lot of shit going wrong but you seriously point out "dated combat", seriously, "dated"?
>>337628948
Yes, it's dated af.
The combat literally consists of either holding your shield up for an eternity while an enemy attacks.
OR one of four things, normal attack, spin attack, flip attack (takes stamina) and the typical charge move which in SS is the Skyward Slash. That's it, no combos, no stamina management, no dodges, no ripostes, no parries, no backstabs, no iframes, no timed blows, no combat spells whatsoever, no switching weapons during combat because there is only one weapon - a sword - no air combos, I can literally go on and on, the combat is simple and dated because it's the same as it was 10 years ago. Now will you actually comment or just meme at me again?
Skyward Sword has a plethora of flaws and combat is a big one. Exacerbated by the Wiimote.
>>337622984
Nintendo wont do this, you do understand right?
Every Dungeon is going to be piss easy, because Nintendo caters to children.
>>337629957
Just like pokemon is getting even easier because it is for 10 and less year olds.
Hell, they can't even get out of the house in RBY for virtual console
>>337629563
So you want dark souls and devil may cry?
You do realize that if DaS had the sword accuracy of SS it would have none of those mechanics right? Zelda isn't about hacking combos or invencibility frames, retard. If you dodge something it's because nothing actually touched you, it's not because you rolled through a fucking firewall. Different games!
If you actually played the game then you know that what you can do with a single sword is more than what you can with a button press in Bloodborne because in that game your sword swings are always done in the same order. If BB enemies read that the same way SS ones do you'd be fucked for life and not even dodges would help you.
>>337630124
New generation of kids are so conditioned to accept instructions that they will just refuse to initiate anything in a game unless the game prompts them.
It's terrible.
>>337614671
The reason 3D Zeldas are shit is because of the long stretches of land with nothing to do and see.
Hyrule Field is OoT is shit
Termina was at least good because there were plenty of enemies and things to see
Wind Waker's ocean was absolute dogshit
Twilight Princess' was a step up but still ultimately boring
Skyward Sword's sky riding was fucking boring
And what have we seen of Zelda 2017 so far? Huge, barren grassy fields with literally nothing.
Don't tell me >b-b-but warps!
If you need a warp to skip boring travel with nothing to see then there's no point in having long stretches of land anyway.
This open world is going to be garbage.
Its only saving grace will be there being a lot of interesting things to find among the world, a fair amount of enemies to intercept you and removing that fucking bloom.
>>337614671
>Expectations
A good game
>Most probable reality
A mediocre game at best.
>2017
bruh
>2017
Wasn't this supposed to be out this year?
>>337631062
It was supposed to be out last year.
>>337614671
I just want to see this game's day/night cycle. Everything we've seen look like evening gameplay and it's all yellow and bloomed as fuck. If there is night gamplay I believe they'll tone down the bloom a lot and that would be significantly better.
Heck, the bloom level was fine on the very first trailer.
>>337631062
what >>337631259 said...
>>337630238
You're a bona-fide delusional moron. There is evidence out there that directly disproves everything you just said.
>>337631779
Not the other guy but point it out.
The wiimote worked fine unless you shook it like a retard. Item switching is at least 3 times faster than TP and even if you don't have items ready in each button you can quickly swap out your current item for another in your bag and use it immediatly with less than a second of menu time. This goes for all items in the game.
>>337631779
The only moron I see here is you. The combat part that was lacking in SS was enemy variety, it weren't the controls. That is by far one of the things SS excels at. It's true that positioning and calibration need to be done right but that should be done at the beggining of the game and calibration can be fixed with a single button at any time of play.
You have to be a really stupid person not to be able to use SS controls correctly.
>>337630585
>And what have we seen of Zelda 2017 so far? Huge, barren grassy fields with literally nothing.
I don't know about. I am actually cautiously optimistic because it doesn't actually look that barren and empty to me.
Please disregard whatever this Zelda fanfiction nerd actually says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq37SdXdZw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aohLg-4zTA
But the video itself actually does a good job at reviewing all the locations from what little actual gameplay and footage we've gotten. Highlighting the interesting things shown in them.
I probably shouldn't place too much hope in it before receiving additional footage at E3. But looks like it's the first 3D Zelda to remind me of 2D Zelda in its world design. And that leaves me excited.
>>337614671
So from what I'm seeing in this thread, everyone expects this game to be a huge disappointment. I think you guys are just salty over the delay/move to the NX.
List any legit reasons why you guys think this game will be shit even when there's no gameplay footage at all other than that outdated video of the game which was probably in its pre-alpha stage at the time.
>>337614671
>What are you expecting from Zelda 2017?
Time travel. More specifically. I am expecting you to travel to the future.
Ocarina of Time was originally going to include you travelling to the future in addition to the past and the present but was cut due to being too much work. So the idea of Zelda in a futuristic setting isn't even entirely new, just never implemented.
And the new Zelda is already known to be featuring all these technological magitek stuff that look high tech and kind of stands out to an extent.
Skyward Sword also had lots of time travel elements to it. Skyward Sword however tied time travelling to the Sheikah tribe, what with their relation to both creation of the time gates themselves as well as their relation to the time stones/crystals you found throughout the world.
And another thing of the few things we know of the new Zelda, is that it's not only full of magitek stuff, we also know that it's kind of pushing the Sheikah stuff hard what with being full of it.
So my idea is that the new Zelda will finally execute the idea of having Zelda in a futuristic setting.
>>337633101
I've watched a few videos of that guy. There are some things that I praise him for noticing but the stuff he says is enough to make brain soup. That's a serious level of autism going on in there.
