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Worth it?
yeah
the only thing I don't like is that you can't skip cutscenes in the first game
>>337614265
guess i can live with that since i never played X / X-2
>buying games
>>337614265
Press ESC and check keybindings. They say there is an option to assign a button to skip
I've read complaints that it randomly crashes but it's hard to tell when these things are the fault of the software or retarded steam kiddies.
>>337614396
>incentivising further releases of games to your platform of choice
I pirated it and I have 1350 steam games. I just can't justify paying anything for old af games that have barely been touched.
>pcbabbies are gonna use cheats for the lightning minigame
What do you have to lose?
>>337614124
Best FF game.
>>337614869
>Implying everyone didn't already use cheats on the ps2.
>>337615186
What cheats?
>>337614265
why do jap devs ignore the speedrunning community so much? it would have been the easiest thing to implement.
I told myself it'd be a quick runthrough, then I got back to blitzball.
I've had to limit myself to one game to an area.
![Gameshark_2-DVD-PS2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bsDhZUQ.jpg "Gameshark_2-DVD-PS2[1].jpg")
>>337615262
>>337614869
It was badly designed, so who cares
>>337614690
square need to incentivise US to buy anything after they fucked the FFIX port up so hard
Talk to me again when someone releases an upgrade to the textures.
So the store page insists that there's strange modifiers that you can activate, such as No Encounters and High Speed modes. Where the hell are these modes? Are they not for X, just X-2?
>>337614869
I did it once without cheating, no way I'll do it again. That minigame isn't even hard, it's just SO fucking tedious that if you miss, it will because you're fucking bored.
>>337615827
They're for both because both games use the same fucking settings and shit.
>>337615510
I didn't have any issues with it. Are you just getting autistic about the bloated interface? You get to used to it. Sulk less anon.
>>337615510
But people say the FFIX port was good
>>337614492
Doesn't do anything for me.
>>337615412
>caring about "the speedrunning community"
kektoberfest
>>337615262
Gameshark
>>337616081
>analog is only 8 directions
>text is unbearably slow to get through in a game which is mostly text
>smart phone battle menu
"No."
>>337617016
>analog is only 8 directions
felt fine to me, you kids bitch about the strangest things.
>text is unbearably slow to get through in a game which is mostly text
You can speed the game up. Try pressing buttons next time.
>smart phone battle menu
A bloo hoo boo hoo
>>337614396
>living in germany
>pirating
Not a good idea
>>337618286
>too lazy/dumb to use a VPN
>>337614124
How haven't you played ffx?
Only answer is underage
Am I being trolled by all the nay-sayers saying emulating is the way to go? I loved it back in the day and if it means tainting that, then I wont bother with this port
>Never played a FF game before
Give me one god reason to play this.
>>337615262
Why is this shit 35 gigs holy fuck
>>337619326
The Moogles are cute!
>>337617625
i bet you never even played the original. shut the fuck up.
>>337615412
>Speedrunning X
Every other Final Fantasy is more entertaining to speedrun.
>>337620160
>tfw i just turned the lights off in my room and did the lightning mini game at night
easy.
getting all 0s for the chocobo race was harder for me.
If you haven't played it before, yes.
If you have and feel like playing it again, pirate the PS2 version and fire up PCSX2.
>>337619326
Do you like jrpgs?
Are you a fan of turn-based combat?
Are you fine with very linear games, so long as they tell a good story?
Are you autistic enough for superbosses that require days of grinding, and minigames that require hours of rage?
Have I got a game for you. One. X-2 has a much better combat system instead, but it's a parody of itself. Well, that's a generous interpretation, the only interpretation that makes this mission pack claiming to be a game worth playing. Sure, it's fun, but damn.
>>337620316
That's like 17gb per game. You get both X and X-2.
That's not bad considering the soundtracks, dual language tracks, and hopefully high quality FMVs.
are there any difference in the ports of the PC/PS4 version?
>>337620881
YET SOMEHOW THEY FIT ON PS2 DVDS...
>>337621162
This is the remaster version. HQ audio, higher res textures.
>>337621215
YET SOMEHOW THEY FIT ON A PSVITA CARD
>>337621286
Didn't they said that the Psvita run worse than the ps2 or something?
>>337621286
Because the vita has a shit res so they can scale down everything.
>>337621470
>>337621378
>>337620881
The point I'm trying to make is that they can compress them but they're too retarded to do so outside of their own environment.
>>337614869
>caring about Lulu's celestial weapon
What's the point, all you need to git gud at is blitzball and the chocobo race so you get Tidus, Wakka and Rikku's celestial weapons
>38 GB PS3 port
>DOOM is a 42 GB PC game
>mfw FFX HD runs better than D44M
>>337621726
You're making a shitty point, is what we're saying.
Sure, they could probably compress further. But that would mean you'd download a bit less, but then need to decompress at some point. Either the game will run worse or it'll just take up the same space anyways.
And those download sizes aren't that surprising anymore.
>>337614124
I bought it because for £11 the hype was too much.
I then got heavily into remembering the story, and started remember the scenes that me 10 years ago choked up at.
>>337621792
100%, anon.
You have to beat the autism.
>>337621910
run worse than 30 fps?
Look worse than a ps3 to pc port?
Also, 13-2 had better compression than 13 and it ran better too.
>>337622194
>run worse than 30 fps?
For a weak rig, yes.
And, again: It would be a minor difference in download size. Why do you even care this much?
>>337614124
for 15€ on gmg its pretty fine
played the original ffx back in the days on ps2 and ffx-2 is new to me
if you never played ffx and have atleast some intrest in jrpgs you should get it
>>337622280
I like keeping 100+ games installed. If everyone ditched the idea of optimization I'd have to cut that number down to like 30.
Plus, you are literally saying:
>why do you want things to be better?
Is there a patch or something to get Jap audio?
>>337622468
>I like keeping 100+ games installed.
You're the exception, get another hard drive.
>why do you want things to be better?
I don't mind things being better. But
a) You have to pick your battles,
b) There's a point where you just hook onto things just for the hell of it.
If I'd be a betting person, I'd wager on the majority of that space being audio. X/X-2 has tons of that. Sure, you could compress that more, but you'd lose quality. They probably figured that people don't give a shit about download sizes anymore, but if there's any quality point where a remaster makes compromises, people will rage.
How the fuck do I get through this room?
>>337623896
Walk forward.
>>337623896
djose temple?You need charged spheres in the pedestial and then shove it in the electrified rear part. then you can use it to reach the rear part.
I think so, yeah. A lot of it depends on how you feel about some of the model changes. Some people find that they look really weird in comparision to the original PS2 models. Still, overall I'd say its worth it and if you don't mind those models you should be all right.
I've been enjoying myself playing it. Although I have mixed feelings about it. SO MANY CUTSCENES and the gameplay itself so far is extremely easy.
>>337624736
>gameplay itself so far is extremely easy
>still in besaid
Is this your first RPG or are you retarded anon?
>>337624736
You're still at the start.
The cutscene amount will sloooowly decrease starting with the next town. Until then, enjoy the movie.
By next town, you'll also have a few more options, though not a whole lot. You'll get those bit by bit.
>>337624736
you're in besaid retard, prepare to get raped by dark aeons for the post game content
>>337625038
No, I've played other RPGs. I'm just coming into this after playing 7th Dragon 2020, which is a game sort of like Etrian Odyssey. It had a very quick start and was challenging even in the beginning, so going into this is a bit jarring.
>>337626069
reaaaaaaally finish that temple. In fact, finish the shit out of the whole town. Seriously. Be sure you don't need to come back, or you will regret it.
I really wish they added a way to let you understand Al Bhed from the start of the game.
>>337627060
NG+ technically
Maybe you can find a save from someone who's finished the game?
>>337626069
Besaid is like the first floor of EO games.
All you need to do auto attack and learn when to go back to town to heal, there's nothing hard about either one at all.
I already have 33 hours on it. Tidus face weirded me put at first but I got used to it and the port is generally quite amazing visually and it is a lot or fun.
>>337619048
The only weird thing in the port is tidus face. The rest are improvements. Including audio enhancements. You can also play with the superior Japanese dubbing now
>>337628968
>superior Japanese dubbing
>in FFX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik4JI4D7rZQ
>>337629580
It has a few moments but it does sound largely better
>>337629580
Stop being a dumb nigger. The laugh makes sense in both languages in the context of the scene, you memeing pre-schooler.
>>337614124
Good way to kill 50+ hours for 20$
>>337632192
More like 100+
I am replaying it and 33 hours already spent. Still at early half of the game
>>337614124
Absolutely
Is there any difference between the PC HD version and the one released on PS4/Vita?
>>337629580
Its supposed to be an awkward, spiteful laugh, like "fuck you, life"
It's final fantasy. They're RPGs for angsty, stupid teens, but this is not an "anime" moment. This legitimately makes sense.
underacted game salesman. better than re4 guy
i hope you invested
>>337614869
i did all the weapon things without cheats several times. but once i got to my nth playthrough i started using gameshark to cheat them because i had enough
can you choose the original soundtrack from ps2 era like you can choose voice language?
or i imagine its possible to mod in
>>337614124
You're better off emulating, the "HD" remasters look like shit
So which version is this a port of and whats broken with it?
Can we expect the same broken RNG generator that plagued the PS4 version?
>>337637498
what rng generator?
i didnt play the recent hd collection
>>337614869
>using Lulu
As soon as you get access to some black magic spheres and the -ga spells Yuna becomes a better Black Mage than Lulu anyway.
>>337614124
Absolutely not. Just emulate it
>>337615186
>equip no encounter
>walk back and forth from conductor
>done
>>337623896
PC fats ladies and gentlemen
>>337614124
No, emulate it.
Seriously you'll miss out on nothing and it looks way better
>>337618851
>19
>haven't touched a FF game
The only JRPGs I've played are Bravely Default, Persona, Disgaea and Fire Emblem. One of my mates is super autistic about FFX and I honestly don't know if I have the patience to play another JRPG, they always get super boring around half way through. Not to mention they're all so fucking long, I've got far too much on my backlog to play before I dedicate my time to something like this. Just tell me, is it worth getting for later on? Doesn't look overly impressive tof be honest.
It's one of the top 15 best Final Fantasy games ever.
>>337637595
PS4 version has a bug (never fixed, never will be) that results in every event being fixed, everything is pre-determined at the creation of the game's save.
This helps explain why the PS4 saves are massive (Multiple MB) compared to the few hundred KB saves on PS3
What does this mean?
It means if that Dark Aeon chooses to use his first turn in a party-ending rape move before you have any buffs on. Then he will ALWAYS use that move first regardless of how many times you reload
>>337622681
>he's the exception
I have like 4 hard drives and literally never uninstall any games. I also like to keep my anime after watching them.
>>337638356
If you have no patience for slow filler side plot you'll hate Final Fantasy games.
>this emasculated cuck is the main character of a mainline final fantasy
I bought this on impulse. Do I ask for a refund?
I've never owned a PS2 and I've considered emulating it on PCSX2. But I like the convenience of having it on steam.
Comparisons like >>337637982 have led me to believe that this is inferior to the original or emulation.
>>337638643
That was in the ps2 one as well. Or at least I noticed it was rigged when I emulated it.
>>337638738
I guess it's probably not for me then, thanks.
Kingdom Hearts HD PC when?
>>337638868
it's one guy posting alpha pictures of the remaster to upscaled emulated pictures of ps2 every thread
>>337638868
Just refund it, some of the models are completely fucked because they outsourced it to some shitty dev
>>337614124
Worth what? Living in a country that uses euros?
Nah.
>>337638932
so they fixed in PS3/Vita then broke it again on PS4?
>>337639183
>>337639231
even with new comparison videos it seems the models are completely fucked up.
backgrounds are different too but it's understandable.
textures for the most part seem fine.
im pretty conflicted right now. might just play it for a bit and if it crashes once i'll refund it.
>>337639231
The models are terrible, but the improvements in other areas are worth ignoring them for. It takes a special kind of retard to boycott an entire product over such a trivial matter, when you're also giving up major graphical improvements in general. No way in fuck will you get this kind of pre-rendered background quality in emulation.
>>337639939
>trivial matter
It's literally the main characters
>>337614124
suteki da ne?
>>337640089
It literally only affects the cutscene models, and it takes an hour to get used to. 90% of the game will use the field models, which are true to the original. It is a trivial matter, and you're suffering from a severe mental illness if you think otherwise or let something like this affect your decision whether to play this version or not.
>>337614869
Cheats are literally programmed into the game now
Let's look at a comparison from the previous thread. Emulated at 4k with the 16:9 hack. Stretches the pre-rendered backgrounds, just like the remake.
>>337640371
>fuck up something as simple to get right as that
>paying money for that fuck up when you can emulate it and get a better experience
Why are you so retarded?
>>337640529
HD remaster at 4k. Brand new textures, higher poly field models and terrain.
>>337618286
You're good unless you pirate normie movies or music/ebooks. No one gives a fuck about vidya here
>>337640761
>better experience
Compare this: >>337639939 with pic related. Note that while the HD remaster appears cropped, the image pans as you move the character.
You're delusional.
>>337637982
face mod when?
>>337614869
what lightning minigame?
>>337640495
what cheats are there?
>>337639939
>>337640969
>>337640529
>>337640789
B T F O
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>>337640969
>models don't matter you'll get used to them
>but look at this this cherry picked background this matters a lot
So it's being retarded then. 20 dollars well spent.
>>337641114
Turbo mode, all items, all abilities, super mode, encounter toggle/ higher frequency.
>>337637982
yunas face looks better in the bottom pic tho desu senpai
not even baiting
fight me
>>337641272
>implying I paid for it
>implying the remaster isn't superior in every other way but cutscene models
>implying you're not complaining for the sake of complaining like the little assfaggot brat that you are
>>337640969
>>337640529
god fuck off with your emulator bullshit, you faggots have been popping up in every fucking thread spouting your sperglord elitism about how good you think it looks emulated.
not everyone has a pc to fucking emulate it at 4k asslord so let people throw their money at something they want, the fuck do you care, autist.
Honestly I can live with everything else if it weren't for tidus's new face. Nigga looks like he skinned someones head and is wearing their face buffalo bill style. It creeps me out. And it wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in every scene because he is the MC. I already hated him but now I hate him more.
Pc or vita ????
>>337641421
If you want to look at potato faces that much just play Oblivion m8
>>337641753
The point of those screenshots is to show the emulator cucks that the image quality is literally shit compared to the HD remaster. They still won't accept it.
>>337641951
If you want to look at low resolutions textures and stretched and unfiltered pre-rendered backgrounds, then continue being an emucuck. Just don't blindly shitpost because you're a fickle cretin.
>>337641853
you could get both just to spite the faggot telling everyone to emulate it :^)
>>337641954
if they were screenshots taken to middle finger emulator fucktards, then my puffled jigglies werent directed at you friendo. talking to the same fucking 1-2 dickheads that pop up in every godam ffX thread telling people to emulate it
I'm not a robot.
>>337614124
No. Emulate it. Jesus fuck.
>>337642047
>complaining about obvious flaws is shitposting
Go jump off the nearest bridge you can find
>>337622194
Dude you complain too much
Does it have the dark Aons and other shit?
>>337642285
>1 obvious flaw
>countless obvious improvements
>fuck that version, it has derp faces only visible in cutscenes in a game where you have 60+ hours of raw gameplay
>i'd rather stare at low resolution textures and a shoddy stretched UI for that duration than those faces
Mental illness.
>>337642285
not him but nah, at this level of obnoxiousness and arrogance... it is shitposting.
its like walking into a bar while everyones having a good time then shouting at them that they could be having a better time at this cheaper place you prefer, fuck off
>>337642585
>completely fucked up the color pallete for higher resolution textures
>completely ass models because reworking the old models would be too hard
'''''''''''''''Improvements'''''''''''''
Fuck off retard.
>>337642656
>OP says asks if it's worth it
>say in my opinion why it's not
>HURR STOP COMPLAINING
Are you autistic?
>>337642656
What you interpret as arrogance is actually objectivity that clashes with the subjectivity you present as absolute fact. Time to jump off that bridge, friends.
>>337637982
I thought people were trolling with these pics.
They're not.
How can they change the main character so much??
>>337642958
>hey is this game worth it?
>NO, HERE'S A HIGH END LIST OF WHAT YOU SHOULD DO INSTEAD BECAUSE I THINK ITS BETTER
>FUCK YOU SQUARE, YOU RUINED MY MARY SUE GAEM REEE
see look, i can cherry pick and exadurate too, easy isnt it? i dont think i've ever seen anyone be so arrogat and autistic at the same time about something so menial. let people waste their money if thats what you thin, what the fuck do you care?
>>337642997
you both need to re-evaluate your lives, i aint a shining example, but fuck me at least im not this fucking elitist and delusional about a fucking emulated version of the worst final fantasy
>>337643589
It's funny, but the actual field models used in the game are just a higher poly faithful recreations of the originals. Here's where it goes wrong. The cutscene models are based on the new field models. Big mistake.
>>337643604
I'd suggest ignoring these retards. The emulated version is clearly inferior. Aside from the faces, it has low resolution textures across the board, hilariously pixelated pre-rendered backgrounds and UI as well as the usual PCSX2 issues. For anyone who likes the game or wants to try it, pirating the Remaster would be the best option. Anyone who says otherwise is straight up retarded.
>>337643604
Is this nigger serious?
OP asked a question and got answers, simple. You're the most autistic motherfucker on this thread for throwing a shit fit about what you perceive as 'elitist' or whatever. You're post is ironic to say the least.
>>337644728
Not serious answers, just shitposting and memes. The posts objectively comparing the two games are serious answers. Some neckbeard saying "lol dat version be shit bcuz mai waifu looks retarded, dont care about the myriad of other improvements" isn't a valid opinion that should be shared when someone is trying to make a decision whether to buy/pirate something or not.
>>337645159
>>>337644728
>"lol dat version be shit bcuz mai waifu looks retarded, dont care about the myriad of other improvements"
Who even said that? Nice strawman you complete retard.
>>337638868
>But I like the convenience of having it on steam.
Why don't you add it to steam as a non steam game using Ice for Steam?
>>337644728
ok
7 for effort. fact is you're still a cunt.
how is "no you should emulate it and heres why i think why you should" in every fucking thread not self indulgant or helpful? bigot.
emufaglords must have serious insecurity issues that they have to shove their opinion and how powerful their computers are in peoples faces to feel good about how pathetic they are.
>>337645431
Literally read the thread. TL;DR, the remaster is to be disregarded because the cutscene models have awful looking faces. Now stop shitposting about it in every fucking thread, you complete waste of oxygen.
>>337645986
>OP asks a question
>OP gets an answer
>HURR ELITISM JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT EMULATORS MY POTATO PC CANT HANDLE THEM AND YOU'RE SO OBNOXIOUS LOOK AT HOW OBNOXIOUS I'M NOT BEING DURR
Literally kill yourself you retarded faggot, jesus fuck.
>>337646608
Stop posting. You've made an ass of yourself all night.
>>337646605
It should. The 'improved' textures are also shitty because the color palette is completely fucked. Why do you keep defending this fuck up and how much is Square paying you?
>>337646714
You stop posting you literal retard. I can't even fathom how can someone be this retarded.
>>337646608
ok.. personal gripes aside, be totaly serious with me, you cannot legitimatly suggest, that emulating is a resonable answer... as if is a viable option for everyone. i mean like, ok sure, you might be able to emulate it at 4k or whatever, fantastic...but who said op can? what if 9 out of 10 people in this thread have toasters.. to tell them to emulate it is prety much telling them to look into upgrading their pcs just so they can. that isnt an answer at all... well it is but a very narrow minded one.
and op just asked if its worth a buy, not what other options should they look at. for all you know they could of never played a FF game before and were asking if its a decent one to get into.
>>337647497
>devolved into just calling people retards because they've ran out of arguments to stand on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
>>337615412
>why do jap devs ignore the speedrunning community so much
Because its stupid and a niche community?
>j-just emulate it!
What if I can't?
>>337648445
You probably can, actually.
>>337649201
Not well.
