DOOM 4 GENERAL OPINIONS
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So do we like this or not? I wont get the game for a few weeks but I need to know before I go to my friends house
Completed the campaign, now I'm wanking in Snapmap. The tools are more powerful than I thought.
>>337603719
Anyone?
Singleplayer is okay
Multiplayer is dogshit
>>337603913
Doesn't answer my question.
>>337603925
Okay so we dont like it. Cool. I dont want my friend to know i dont have it yet. Going to lie and say I dont remember much cause I was drunk lol
>>337603719
Singleplayer is actually fun.
Single player is fun and the heavy metal music is cool
Only played can arena in multi-player, it was easy and the players trash. First game I won a 5v1 encounter (I got lost from my team, sorry I was full health when ur dead guys)
I like it, especially for Doomguy's attitutde throughout the whole game.
>I'm here to kill demons and I'm not about to listen to you talk about how or why they're here. No, don't bother pointing the way, I'll just follow the blood.
>>337603719
Its another case of /v/ told me a game was shit and it was actually great.
>>337603719
Depends on which side of the pond you're sitting.
>liked Wolf:TNO and SW2013, or haven't touched old Doom/Douk/etc in ages/at all
Probably gonna love it.
>Love good ol' Doom and -likes, and actually still play them actively, instead of relying on nostalgic memories or internet memes
Probably not gonna like it.
I belong to the latter. I find the game just mediocre all around, still having too much modern (console) "trends". Yeah, it takes couple steps towards the right direction, but it doesn't dedicate itself to the cause, and really suffers of a major identity crisis.
>>337604024
>Needing other people to decide what you like or not
You are beyond pathetic tbqh senpai
Would you faggots make up your fucking mind? I dont want to be made a fool of
>>337604887
>But thats old Doom
>wait, why do they drop health
>WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO BRIGHT
it fucking sucks
>>337603719
I troughoutly enjoyed the campaign. Kept me hooked troughout it, and I pretty much played it trough in one sitting. Took me around 10-12 ours, though I spent a lot of time backtracking and searching for secrets. If you just blast trough the thing, I guess it will take about 8-10 hours.
In any case, I loved the combat. Felt just right to me, with how mobile you were, how powerful your weapons were etc. It was challenging, but fun on the highest difficulty you can play on your first run.
>>337605319
>Siting for close to 10hours straight
>Playing video games no less
>>337605397
Oh, I didn't literally sit on my ass for 10 hours to play videogames. I took small breaks every now and then, walked around a bit (to the kitchen, to get some grub) etc. It is just that I spent basically the whole day playing the game.
>>337603719
NO NEED TO STRAIN YOURSELF OUT ANYMORE DRONE.
THE HIVEMIND HAS DECIDED.
THE HIVEMIND APPROVES THIS GAME.
YOU MAY CONTINUE WITH YOUR EVERYDAY ACTIVITIES DRONE.
>>337604887
>too much modern (console) "trends".
>doesn't dedicate itself to the cause
>really suffers of a major identity crisis.
What does any of that even mean? What are your actual criticisms and not buzzwords and phrases that only really amount to "I don't like thing."
>>337605586
Sorry bruh I hang out with hip people who talk about the newest things, and since I am PC masterrace i cant even rent the game, and im broke so i cant buy it so i need to be able to join in on the coversations we are having
>>337604887
>mfw I love both Doom '93 and the new one
How does it feel not to enjoy anything anon? I guess you are a very sad adult.
>>337606081
I guess you have no standards
>>337603719
It's pretty OK. Less The Jew Order and more Rage in terms of combat and AI (the AI seems almost 100% cloned from Rage).
I like the visuals, it isn't nearly as piss covered as the E3 trailer and it runs at maximum everything at 3440x1440 at a rocksolid 60fps on my 980Ti with zero dips, even in the most chaotic explosion fest. If only all AAA gaymes were this well optimized at launch. Superior nvidia drivers are superior.
>>337606214
Also the fact that it's using idtech6 and the Vulkan API. Hopefully this helps them get more use with how damn optomized the game is.
>>337603719
i would like it if glory kills weren't a part of the equation, or if like the animation was just like a 5-frame punch or something. fucking hell
>>337606457
You can disable them. And they are not that long anyway
>>337606457
They shortened glory kills considerably from the E3 demo. They are about 1/4th of a second now rather than the 1.25 second monstrosity they were at Jew3
>>337604887
You're just saying things about it, none of it is true. Its actually well done and "dedicates itself to the cause" I also play Doom almost daily, and still like it.
>>337606594
Doesnt matter. The fact they are there at all is proof that this game was taken in a bad direction
The damage to this gems reputation is done
>>337603719
Easily a modern masterpiece
FPS OF THE YEAR
>>337606162
theres a difference between having standards and making your own standards up because you want people to think you have standards.
>>337606968
try dying in molten steel :^)
>>337606594
You can't disable them, but you can disable the obvious as fuck glowy prompt in SP. Makes you have to look at the monster before you try to go in for one.
>>337606841
So you are just going to argue about the direction of the game while just nitpicking about a single thing and ignoring it nailed about half of the things that mattered?
If it was for you we would have gotten this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HI-Ev2ZbX4
>>337604024
>Okay so WE dont like it
what the fuck are you doing
>>337603719
Finally an oldschool game for oldschool gamers.
>>337604887
>implying you can't like Wolf TNO and Shadow Warrior 2013 if you've played and like Doom 1 and 2, Duke Nukem, etc.
whatever m8
>>337607153
I meant we as in gamers. The people who post on /v/ are 95% gamers, which are a completely different demographic from dudebros and sluts
>>337603719
>Multiplayer beta
>literally everyone shitting on it
>Game releases, the campaign is actually great
>90% of /v/ shitting on it because 90% are piratefags who can't play the game
>These retards discover cd keys websites and get the game for 30 bucks
>Threads with positive opinions start to appear
why do even come here
>>337606841
>when brutal doom does it is ok
go hang yourself.
>>337606018
It means that the game is fine but suffers from having the Doom name. Would be a perfectly fine modern game if it wasn't associated with Doom
>>337607414
I never said that, but nice implication =3
>>337607270
Following everyone else's opinion is the most normie thing you could possibly do.
>>337607117
>glory kills is an integral part of game
>health/ammo economy is balanced with glory kills in mind
>nitpicking
Out. OUT!
I've only played it for 60 minutes. It's okay. Not great, not bad.
The executions everyone complains so much are optional and I think they give a new flow to the gunfights. Tons of "this arena has been locked, kill all the enemies to progress" areas.
NPCs try to shit exposition and Doomguy just ignore them.
>>337603719
Single player is okay like Wolfenstein TNO. better than most consolized shooters but still no where near real classic FPS
it's a """"""""classic""""""""" FPS for the millennial audience.
>>337607584
Enemies drop shit when you gib them too. So just do that
>>337607463
again that isn't an actual criticism just a meaningless statement. If you don't like it thats fine but you haven't explained whats bad about it or what makes it a bad DOOM.
>Windows only
Too bad. It looked like an okay game.
>>337603719
It's a Halo game. It's handholdey. There are talking heads blabbering at you at all times yet you never see your own face. You have to destroy dozens of industrial machines to progress. Enemies wear shields, spawn out of nowhere, have pointless nests that you have to destroy time and again to clear the room. Rooms unlock only after defeating all enemies (ie complete linearity). Environments are the exact opposite of classic Doom: pointlessly realistic to the point of banality yet oversaturated with a color, rounded edges, not fully navigable, lots of interchangeable corridors. Weapons only make muffled sounds and hardly seem to move when fired. Projectiles are shiny globes that do not really seem to connect with the target. Enemies are also oddly rounded and streamlined in their design, there are no medieval throwbacks, no fleshy surfaces, as in the architecture - everything about the game is metallic and shiny, just like in every other modern game. It's a Halo game. It's a fucking Halo game.
>>337607584
they drop health when you are low with or without glory kill.
actually, glory kill is more risky because health fly all over the place unlike with a gun kill, where you can see where they are and plan a route to them. And glory kill force you to close in on group of enemies, limiting your line of sight to dodge fireballs and really hard hitting melee attack.
Pretty fun so far. Ultra-Violence difficulty is too damn easy though. I wish I could play it on the hardest from the start.
>>337607463
Then what exactly is old-school to you? Judging by the "standards" you display in this thread you'd think it was some mystical bullshit nobody can create again.
>>337607117
as soon as I heard that you have to unlock basic doom movement speed via "upgrades" and don't get the old speed back until very late in the game, I honestly stopped caring about it.
oh, also glory kills. fuck this bullshit. you know what a glory kill is? making it out of a long-ass battle with barely any health left. that is one long-ass, interaktive glory kill. and it feels good, not like this fake instant gratification bullshit "press button and something awesome happens". how about you get fucking good at the game and then something awesome happens you fucking moron?
>>337607775
>enemies wear shields
>literally only one type of possesed has them, and you can easily flank them or grenade the shield away
>>337607758
>Using Mac/Linux
You only have yourself to blame when game companies decide to not cater to a niche market. You chose the hipster path
>>337607925
you can.
+menu_advanced_AllowAllSettings 1
Maybe I need to git gud but Nightmare has posed a real challenge to me, unlike TNO's über.
>>337608093
Ok, is there a way to 100% disable the motion blur in this game too? I makes 99.9999999% of all screenshots look like shit.
I think its heart is in the right place. I firmly believe that shoehorned shit like the glory kills and RPG elements were stuff mandated by Beth/Zenimax.
And sadly that IS stuff that casuals eat up. If you listened to the nvidia footage filmed at the conference the only fucking thing the crowd pops for is the glory kills.
In the end its single player is a step above normal fare for today but not as good as real classic FPS, sort of like New Order and the new Shadow Warrior. Still a decently good game. Calling it a step in the right direction might be overly generous but I'm not sure how else to put it.
>>337608046
>instant gratification bullshit
>enemies have to be near death to get a glory kill.
Maybe you should actually play the game before criticizing it like a fucking fool.
>>337608093
because tno is a cover shooter.
>>337607775
If there was a Brutal Halo mod this game would be it.
God damn it. Just give DOOM guy a model so we can have some real reflections.
>>337608184
You can disable it in the options you twit.
>>337607775
>I watched a 6 minute youtube video about this game: the post
>>337607925
>not playing on nightmare
only ultra nightmare is locked you know
>>337608184
I think there is but I didn't bother... look trough all the options there are many, or google it.
>>337608201
>>337607902
All these mental gymnastics to justify "press f to win" nonsense.
Just end yourselves, shills.
>>337608346
It just sets it to LOW you kikeloving faggot
>>337608432
Nightmare is greyed out on my game
>>337608432
Except that's wrong. Both difficulties are locked until you beat the game once.
>>337607775
>Enemies wear shields
There's only one enemy type dude.
So adding variety to encounters is now a bad thing?
I'm sorry this isn't 1993 anymore when enemies doing nothing more than hurling easy to dodge fireballs at you was dangerous enough.
>>337608563
>>337608545
try highlighting it retards its lets you pick it
im on my first run and i started on nightmare
>"It was necessary, I assure you"
>>337608059
Ok, I could swallow the idea of shields in a Doom game if they weren't fkn futuristic glowey multi-stage colour-changing shields. As it is, their surface might as well spell H - A - L - O. And I didn't even touch upon the sounds those mobs make. It's not like the bellowing heard in the first two games, but a stock zombie roar taken from what seem like The Walking Dead TV show.
What I'm trying to say is that the mood of D44M is off in every single minor detail. And that's because it's a cookie cutter Halo clone that doesn't have an identity of its own.
>>337608272
haha, i thought so too
the reflection actualy reflect the environment properly
just the player model is omitted, which is weird, because if you already reflecting the environment dynamically, player model shouldnt be a problem
>>337608545
No, there is a motion blur on/off option you retard. I'll get you a fucking screenshot because I know i'm right.
>>337608201
oh yeah, and they get this awesome glow, indicating I now get instant gratification with the press of a button. shoot, press awesome button. shoot, press awesome button. repeat until dry of saliva.
don't forget how the game is meant to be played with this bullshit, because it's your ammo and health source.
I mean, you are not saying they are designing all this just so you don't use it, right? you are not THAT retarded, are you?
>>337608186
New Order had ironsights, health regen and hitscan enemies.
But i think New Order's sucess is what made Doom to get rid of hitscan, cover and health regen completely.
Now that we have Doom that is sucessfull we can finally have a proper Quake 1 remake with a competitive multiplayer and we're set.
Its pretty great.
There is no WE, though.
>>337608505
in og doom you press lmb to win. nothing skillfull in that.
here you have the option to press f to save ammo if the enemies are far enough away or press lmb if they are close. or press rmb+lmb to unleash an explosive shot from the shotgun to save on rockets. or press g to kill the whole group for more doodads exploiting the fact that you are low on health, meanwhile dodging small fireballs that can 3 shot you on full health and big fireball and melee that can 1 shot you on full health without armors.
>>337608797
On nightmare health from enemies is useless. It gives you +3-5 hp maximum in total and health does not drop from every enemy.
Also on Nightmare you HAVE to look for armor vests, because shards only give you +1 AP and without armor you die in few hits.
>>337608823
Was all of it part of your plan?
>>337607902
are you actually stupid?
>getting free health and ammo is a risk because it forces you to get close to enemies!
so you never used melee or the shotgun in doom 4? good to know, friend!
I've only watched streams and the game looks easy and boring as fuck
every enemy that spawns has a 3 second window where they do jackshit and QTE kills seem retarded AND give you additional health packs, ammo and armor
I have no interest in this game at all
>>337608596
>I'm sorry this isn't 1993 anymore when enemies doing nothing more than hurling easy to dodge fireballs at you was dangerous enough.
>>337606457
You can unlock a rune where you perform a glory kill in like 0.2 seconds, it's fucking great.
>>337606782
>just saying things about it
>on a discussion board!
wow, what a gr8 non-argument.
I dig tons of 1990s original shooters, and I barely can stand D44M.
>>337609028
that's a good list of everything wrong with doom 4, gonna screencap that
>>337609123
because while you are doing glory kill, enemies have time to close in on you. especially imps, they love to scratch or burn your back. unlike using a shotgun when i can move and look around.
>>337609129
>I've only watched others play it and haven't played it at all
>Watch me act like an authority on how the game works
/v/ in a nutshell
>>337609193
the thing is, it's YOUR case.
I love shadow warrior and can't stand the remake. I liked og doom and i'm enjoying this one very much.
>>337609180
yeah, in berserk mode you justRIP AND TEAR
Is the plot connected to Doom 3?
>>337608797
And back in the old Doom you shoot and shoot and shoot until dry of saliva.
But now pressing a button as well is the ultimate evil. Especially given how you actually have to work for it (which was already said in previous posts but you just dismissed it like an idiot).
Also, you can avoid this completely if you want. Just don't press the fucking button and shoot them once more. Hard right? They still drop stuff sometimes and you have other sources of stuff as well.
>>337607270
Nice bait. Not very subtle but aggressive enough to grab some (You)'s
>>337609028
>in og doom you press lmb to win. nothing skillfull in that.
so you didn't play original doom games. gotcha, shill
>here you have the option to press f to save ammo
That's not an option in this game. It is a necessity - fucking game is balanced around glory kills gimmick. They have no reason to exist in a shooter game and no amount of shilling on your part will change that.
You can tell the person who is on a "shill"-exposing crusade and keeps trying to turn D44M into a meme is literally the same person in these threads
>>337609057
so you mean if you play the game on the difficulty for people who have the time and skill to learn it for countless hours, one shit thing about the game actually becomes arbitrary?
so tell me, how about the "kill all enemies in arena to progress" level design? will this get better on nightmare too?
or how about not getting your full speed until late into the game - will you get it all in the beginning on nightmare? I'm just trying to grasp how much they fucked this one up.
>>337609130
die in one shotgun hit from any range
tons of cover to hide from him
unless he is used as ambush or a twisted version of a sniper, he is a non issue.
Damn nigga, you spooki
>>337609130
Thankfully there are no more frustrating shit like sniping chaingunners, shotgunners behind doors and those FUCKING LOST SOULS.
Lost soul redisign is the best thing about this game. How to fix an annoying flying enemy? Just make them explode after each attack. If they hit you they die and won't bother you again.
>>337609446
>literally one reply and yours
>good bait
/v/ has really gone to shit.
>>337609130
Doom 1 m8. All the projectile throwing monsters just threw a slow moving fireball with varying amounts of damage. Plus the only hitscanners might as well have just been ammo refill spots.
It was Doom 2 that gave us actual difficult projectile attacks (mancubi multi shots) and monsters that did more than just walk and shoot something (archvile).
>>337608823
Like I said, TNO definitely had modern conventions, to its detriment. I enjoyed the cover mechanics and lean for stealth playthroughs though.
And hitscan enemies were in the original Doom games too to be fair.
>Demons were so afraid of Doomguy they trapped in him some demonic sarcophagus thing so he'd stop slaughtering them all
>He gets out
>They're not scared of him
So does Hell have Alzheimer's or something?
>>337609565
>Just make them explode after each attack
Seriously? What the fuck, Bethesda! That's not cool nor good thing, AT ALL.
>>337609423
>please gimp yourself by ignoring entire game mechanic
>>337604887
Nothing but buzzwords. I haven't played the game yet so I won't say that it's good or bad, but you clearly had your mind made up before playing it, if you even played the game that is. Go form your own opinion and then come back.
>>337607157
I don't understand what you're trying to imply. Well user reviewed games are all shit? Is bait really this badly made on /v/ now?
>>337609695
The ones that remembered died off
Guys
Does DOOM support 1280x1024?
>>337607758
Just run it on WINE or something if you're a bad enough dude.
>>337609314
so you are not attacking enemies who are standing on the side, but you run directly into the middle for a glory kill where you get attacked by everyone?
and all the punishment you get for being so shit at this game is a light scratch?
who the fuck am I talking to here, what is this? I can't believe you are a normal poster here
>>337609130
Congratulations, you gave a good counterexample.
A single one, that came about in 1994, not 93.
>>337609695
Who says that they aren't scared of him?
They are still gonna fight.
>>337609717
Or prove that you're very fucking good at the game.
Do I have a shot at running this shit on low @60FPS/1440x900
>Don't want to upgrade GPU till I can get a new power supply as well
>Now the 1070's are looming
>Fell behind the times
I played it on my buddies PS4, and it feels fun albiet horrible on controller
>>337604024
beta as fuck
>>337609597
It's referring to the content of the post, something your reddit mind is unable to comprehend.
>>337609565
Thankfully there is no more challenge. Just shoot a few times and press F for something awesome to happen :^)
>>337609354
normal poster
>game looks boring
>"hey guys, game looks boring, not gonna get it"
you
>"yeah, look at those idiots, they just look at footage of something, and when they think it's boring, they don't even buy it! /v/ in a nutshell, am I right guys?"
>>337609723
>nothing but buzzwords
way to belittle people, and show that you don't seriously follow the gaming industry in whole at all.
The game ended up being EXACTLY the same shit I predicted it to be already months ago. The only difference between then and now is, that back then I was either a "b8", or called out for judging a game that's "not even out yet!", while now I'm either an "unpleasable oldfag" - or apparently I have "not even played the game!". Or all four at the same time.
>>337609971
Why should I prove anything? I just want to enjoy the game without fucking "press f to win" bullshit. But when entire balance revolves around getting glory kills then fuck that.
>>337609971
yeha, I could also play original doom without using the W key. but do you know what? I'm not gonna do it, like I won't buy doom 4.
>>337604887
>Dedicate itself to the cause
What the fuck are you on about?
>>337610027
how can the content of a post be good if it has been written with the intention to bait and he only catches 1 guy?
Please tell me mr oldfag, i have been around here only since 2008.
>>337609447
>so you didn't play original doom games. gotcha, shill
so what did you do in doom 93? I played both of it and a number of wads, even those shitty anime ones. You move around? checked. You click lmb? checked. You switch weapons when it suit you? checked. That's exactly nu-doom. You must do all this before getting into the "press f to win" part.
Here in nu doom you can risk death to prioritise drop. enemies hit harder and will get out of your line of sight, not toward it. you have more weapons plus alt fires on each of them, plus grenade, plus melee. Enemies have secondary fire and some even have two types of melee attack.
Nu-doom is a fucking good game even compared to old ones. Deal with it, fag.
>>337609868
>gets proven wrong with an example
>b-b-b-but it's just a single example
are we in "deflection general" or something?
>>337610214
Do I really have to seriously explain this basic shit?
The whole hype around D44M has been all about
>Going back to roots!
>Real oldschool mayhem!
>More buzzwords! Rip & tear!
>>337610031
I bet you're one of those faggots that never tried to complete Plutonia or TNT on difficulty higher than i'm too young to die.
Just fuck off.
Eh I bought it because it was 37 dollarydoos.
I am enjoying myself through single player, decent challenge but to hard. Mostly I die from my own mistakes (namely platforming) than others.
Runs very well for how it looks. The only thing I think is to those saying its to bright...did you change the gamma at all? It defaults to 1...it should probably be around .3~4
>>337603719
Singleplayer is probably the best FPS to come out in a long ass while.
Shame multiplayer is garbage. That's kinda where Doom had its replayability. Unfortunately this game is just another play it once and let it sit in your collection kind of game.
>>337610207
> I could also play original doom without using the W key.
Not the same thing at all. this just shows you're speaking out of your ass.
> I won't buy doom 4.
Ok.
> I just want to enjoy the game without fucking "press f to win" bullshit
You've been told again and again that you can do that. By people that, unlike you, have played the game. And yet, it's somehow impossible because your ass says so. Fucking moron.
>>337610301
you risk death only if you are a retard though
>>337610012
You could probably get away with it, it tends to run pretty well on most/all setups.
>>337610012
Most of the games are not as demanding as most /v/irgins say, you dont need a fucking 4K monster build to play some random vidya, your specs are fine for this game. I would definitely upgrade the GPU tho, for future games.
>>337610473
I'm only playing it to bide my time until Overwatch comes out
Maybe SnapMap will end up with some interesting shit on it in a month or two
>>337609835
enemies only drop 20+ health when you are in danger of being 1 hit. which mean you are <30 hp. otherwise they just drop 5 hp, which is literally nothing, you cant even heal to full killing every demons from a gore nest with it.
health dropping out of enemies dont come instantly to you.
so you can get 1 shot by an imp's melee or fireball if you do glory kill indiscriminately.
The chainsaw needing ammo is the worst part about this game.
>>337610635
>console FPS gaymer
shocker
>>337610568
or when i want 100 health instead of getting 30 and then 5 for every kill while summoners and hell knights are fucking around.
exploding a bunch of imps at<30 hp is a good feel
>>337610661
Chainsaw as a last resort to make an enemy shit a ton of ammo is a neat mechanic, though I usually just end up using it on those guys with shields
OH BOY i can't wait till 1 year from now everyone on /v/ praises D44M as a brilliant shooter.
Just like a few days ago I saw many others praise doom 3 as "good but misunderstood"
Never change, /v/ :^)
>>337609835
Maybe on normal. Imps pretty much one shit you if they get a direct hit
>>337610301
Nu-Doom locks you up into clear, obvious "combat arenas", all the fucking time. The Pinata-enemies literally eliminate need for supply conservation and looking for the secrets that could tip the scales for your favors (since most of the "secrets" are just silly collectibles).
>>337610842
>can't wait till 1 year when D44M is literally being forgotten by people and the times, since we never got modding tools.
>>337610501
you are, again, calling people a moron who won't buy your shit product.
get it into your head: the game is designed to feel modern. it's designed around using your awesome-button. it's designed around being slower than doom and having your speed locked away in a fucking upgrade system.
so no, my homosexual friend. no dollar will be spent, and neither will friends or family. I hope shilling at least pays for you.
>>337610661
>og doom
>barely use chainsaw outside killing pinkies
>nu doom
>chainsaw can even kill a baron of hell, effectively being a valid weapon thorough all the game
>to not make it OP as hell, developers decide to give it ammunition so it has limited uses
>but some guy on /v/ knew better
>>337610981
>what is Fallout 4
>>337609408
it seems to only follow the "plot" up to doom 64
>>337608652
>smashes screen
>title sequence
got hyped.
>>337610842
I give D44M about 2-4 weeks until nobody talks about it anymore. maybe less. it's really bad so far.
>>337610842
>D44M
While I share your opinion, that name sounds retarded.
>>337610661
They made the chainsaw a tactical sort of thing where you want to save it for when you really need ammo, but that's not really the enjoyable way of using a chainsaw. You want to just get into crowds and start tearing it up, like left 4 dead 2.
I guess they couldn't really balance it with the spongey enemies, it's a shame.
>>337610842
>People shitting on it before it comes out admits it's pretty good after playing the game
what a shocker desu senpai
>>337610880
enemies don't drop ammo that often and not much of it unless you equip an upgrade that boosts ammo drops, which isn't useful at all when you consider other choices that could occupy the same slot. 90% of the ammo you're going to find is from pre-placed pickups. Occasionally, using the chainsaw.
>>337610635
>Overwatch or Doom on consoles
Why do people subject themselves to this?
>>337610842
Doom 3 was alright. That's exactly its reception on release. Nothing has changed.
Doom 4 is not a brilliant shooter by any means, it's just better than 90% of the garbage shit out today because it actually plays like an FPS and not an on rails QTE movie simulator with auto-aim.
The last singleplayer FPS campaign that was this good was probably F.E.A.R. 1.
>>337608272
>>337608740
you can clearly see the doomguy in that pic
>>337611083
they made a 4th one? when did that happen?
>>337603719
best modern shooter ive played
>>337611054
One hit kills aren't satisfying.
>>337610992
>get it into your head
I have no reason to get your bulllshit inside my head.
> no dollar will be spent, and neither will friends or family.
I already showed I don't care about that. But I guess you already showed nothing can enter your skull either, no matter how many times it's hammered, so I guess we're pretty much even.
>>337603719
First run on Ultra violence.
Maybe,this is the most challenging campaign I played since Resistance 2.
The only flaw were the secrets because i often get lost,or just give up,by trying finding them,which is a bit frustrating.
Anyway,I really enjoyed it,the SP went over my expectations and i'm planning on completeing it in nightmare/ultra nightmare difficulty.
The MP is still,a bit,'off' for me,even tho they added a lot of stuff since the beta.
8/10 bretty good
>>337609314
Everytime you perform a glory kill demons automatically stop everything they're doing and,basically,they just stand there watching you killing one of his friends....or atleast,this is what i noted
So are these guys like medieval doomguys or something? Also who was the doomguy in doom 3?
>>337610880
or, you know, getting plasma rifle / rocket launcher well before their "normal" unlocking.
s-surely you can't be so retarded as to judge this game without even having tried it, r-right? Get a pirate copy and come back in a few days to shitpost, but with actual knowledge of the cause.
Currently you are just embarrasing yourself.
>>337609695
this fucking plothole
>I am a grunt
>I just saw this dude kill an entire battalion on his own using nothing but his fists and a pistol
>so instead of falling back and coming up with a plan I will stay here and stand my ground surely I will be the one to kill him by doing the same exact thing every other now dead man did
The demonic blood priests had the right idea.
And well what do you know their idea worked.
>>337609695
>They're not scared of him
I've seen imps running away from me like neckbeards from women, other thought they could take me on.
>>337611152
the fact that there even IS any upgrade-systems is fucking disgusting already.
Question, I'm playing on Nightmare difficulty. If I reach a checkpoint can I exit and return to that checkpoint or do I have to finish the level?
>>337611367
That's really just subjective. I understand why you wouldn't like it in your shooter growing up on DOOM, though.
>>337611338
they look like Space Templars
>>337611296
i bet you'd prefer to talk to the creatures
Doom 4 has a great story about love and redemption.
>>337610880
you must be a shitter to have to find secret to win og doom. i can progress leisurely at my own pace blind on ultra violence, finding secret i can and still win. Id is not that scumbag that lock critical resource behind secret.
Og doom give you much less shit in a level by comparison and most of the resource are earned through combat. Enemies are much more dangerous as well. Dont believe me? try a classic map in nu-doom. I kill everything i meet in OG doom anyway so the arena doesnt bother me because they are well designed, not linear corridor combat nor pseudo flat arena with some cover.
>>337611296
yeah true, it's much more satisfying to stand there and hold down a button while the chainsaw stunlocks a pinky demon and it goes through an animation loop until its health reaches zero
>>337611367
Games need to be a little more complex today then "FIND GUN, PICK UP GUN, SHOOT IT"
This simplicity was a thing back then because game development with complex features wasn't as easy.
If the upgrade system adds fun, there's no reason to hate it.
>>337611391
I'm pretty sure you can start at the checkpoint, but don't quote me on that. I marathon'd the game on the most part.
I love the high impact sexual violence. Doomguy has a cock like a thermos. Just look at the face hole he gave this low tier demon.
>>337611531
>Og doom give you much less shit in a level by comparison
*nu-doom, my bad
>>337611391
You can exit, then continuing the game will start you on the checkpoint
>>337603719
the singleplayer is amazing, the multiplayer is made by the halo guys so it's utter shit
snapmap is great fun
>>337611574
>>337611616
Thanks based anons
>doomguy saving vega into a drive
can't wait for the dlc to fuck hayden's shit up
im kinda annoyed that snapmap isnt built very well for making single player maps especially with the 2 weapon limit
I did not expect to enjoy it, but I do have to admit it's surprisingly fun
The maps are huge and very intricate
The combat is as fast as you want it to be and hectic (at least on ultra-violence)
The only thing I don't quite like are the checkpoints, but it's not too bad. Wish they were in more convenient spots, but it does kinda save your progress (what you picked up) I guess
Executions are not as bad as people made them out to be a integrate nicely into the other mechanics
Haven't tried the multiplayer but it looks pretty bad
The fact people on /v/ say its better than Shadow Warrior shows that this place is being raped by shills. Really, unless you like piss easy feel good games then you will hate the game
So far nobody has said what they like about it
>>337611304
>I already showed I don't care about that
every reply is tears of desparation, filled with nothing but ad hominems and a single, repeating argument
>YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME!
but I don't. and you say you don't care, but you care so much, with every word, every sentence, every post. it's tragic, really, that the purpose of your existance ITT is solely to tell me how I should ignore a core mechanic in nu-doom, a game so hopelessly devoted to be a console shooter, so that I, someone who enjoyed good pc shooters, might enjoy this one too.and I still say no, my friendly shitter.
>>337606019
Maybe try telling them you haven't played it but would like to hear what they think?
>>337603719
I remember /v/ fucking shitting their pants about how awful this was going to be.
Muh Chainsaw cutscenes
Durr Executions are bad
This game will be terrible!
Turns out it was pretty awesome. Bethesda put a massive amount of effort into this and it show. I can't say 10/10 yet because I haven't played it till my entire body hurts yet. But I will try for that monday. Will give a full report.
>>337603913
Snapmap is going to make shit like Halo 3 customs a possibility again.
>>337611782
>we want the halo audience
>without the waifu
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>>337611338
They are pulling Bioshock here.
>>337607057
CoD/Halo Fag detected. The game is intensely cool, even if glory kills do get a little redundant if you aren't varying where and when you're pulling them off. The music,introduction,intrigue, graphics, everything is awesome.
Anyone who likes current FPS standards probably won't like it. 'Oh shit, no wall running or cute little achievement awards for every kill I get?! Fuck this game, fighting demons with godlike weapons is bullshit.'
I'm having fun looking for secrets. Game runs pretty well at 4k resolution with 980 Ti, as long as you disable AA. I don't really need it anyway.
D44M is definitely a strong GOTY candidate for me.
>>337610012
You should be able to run it.
Is there a demo?
Is it just me or is Ultra-Violence pretty fucking easy? I can count my deaths on one hand, I even ignored powerups to make it harder.
>>337612107
look at the year, grandpa
>>337612171
You are just too good for video games, champ. Might as well stop playing them entirely.
>>337608063
not hum but also freetard
Yes, you are right, we chose hipster path, because some of us care about freedom and other principles, so that one day even you normies will be able to enjoy the good sides of free software, even if it means currently we have to deal with relative lack of vidya.
>>337612171
Have you finished the campaign at a lower difficulty before?
>>337611556
More satisfying than oneshotting enemies, yes.
>>337612050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
>can't see legs
0/10 it was OK
>>337611887
>Anyone who likes current FPS standards probably won't like it. 'Oh shit, no wall running or cute little achievement awards for every kill I get?! Fuck this game, fighting demons with godlike weapons is bullshit.'
when I read your post, it sounds like one of those retards is trying to do a spoof on himself.
anyone who likes current FPS standards will fucking love D44M, that's the entire fucking point of the game.
>>337612309
We live in a proprietary world. You can support free as in freedom all you want, but you are using vastly inferior software and denying yourself of a good time in general, all because of "MUH FREEDOMS".
>currently
You will always and forever deal with the lack of video games because Linux is absolute garbage for personal use and no one will support it.
>>337612309
this is why most of us have separate machines
>>337611556
that is more satisfying, because you are actually doing it
>>337611801
this.
ffs that plasma rifle has all the satisfaction of a bubble gun.
Quake 4 was better than this
yep
>>337612179
Not that anon but I wish there were more demos for games these days
Almost all games that had demos (surprisingly mostly ones on the PSN store) which I tried I ended up purchasing
It gives you a good feel of the game first hand, without needing to wait for other people's opinions to actually know what the game is about
>>337612521
It's cannon. It wasnt there in doom 1 and 2 and 3 :^)
>>337612309
>muh free as in socialist slavery
You realize the GPL only exists for lawsuits and to line Stallman's pockets right? It means programmers can't own their creations and make a living on it. They have to be wage slaves. You're a cuck and you're ruining the world.
>>337603719
Singleplayer is great, multiplayer and snapmap are dissapointing though. For me it's the removal of arena aspects for the multiplayer, and the fucked up matchmaking, 4 player limit, and two weapon limits of snapmap
>>337612560
>anything inferior to windows
oh boy, the shills go full out today, hold your horses!
>>337612701
THIS
MIT or FreeBSD style licenses or GTFO. Upstreaming is for literal retards. The only thing that matters is the downstream, otherwise known as PROGRESS
>>337611556
It is tho
I actually feel like I'm in control, chopping a fucker in half, unlike in nuDoom
>>337607270
>we as gamers
Fucking kill yourself
>>337612785
which, as we all know, TAKES SACRIFICE
did i meme good anon kun?
>>337603719
Been playing it for a few hours. It puts most other singleplayer fps games to shame in sheer fun factor alone. the maps are far better than I expected, although it does that annoying thing where it highlights half of the "secrets" on the map, making them not really secrets at all.
Taken as an arena shooter without any ties to the rest of the franchise, it's fairly good. The weapon mods are decent, the gameplay is fast and there are a metric shitload of different enemy types.
The multiplayer is a let-down, though. If they'd ignored that aspect entirely and focused all their resources on the singleplayer like the new Wolfenstein, it would've been a lot better.
I haven't tried snapmap, and I'm fairly confident that whatever people can do with it, the results won't be half as impressive as what some dedicated nerds could do with some modding tools.
>>337603719
I like it. It's good fun, just like Wolfenstein is. The only problem is that there's so many fucking games this month and it gets hard to find time for everything plus the occasional assfaggots with friends.
>>337611556
man, you guys remember how awesome it felt when you could actually CONTROL your weapons?
how your fingers cramped down on your fire button, how you carefully danced over wasd to not slide up the keyboard?
now listen carefully you little shit:
do you remember when you actually were able toPLAY THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR AN ANIMATION TO FINISH?
Why? So you can bitch about a game you never played if we tell you its shit? Or you can praise it if we tell you its good? Play it have the experience and form your own opinion schill.
> I preferred 3
>>337613180
>assfaggots
You dont deserve to play games
I jsut want a crack to be available, I played the mp beta and it's ass, but the campaign looks like something I could rip through a few times whcih is something I really enjoy. Once "correctly" then 1-2 runs where I go fast and fuck nerds, best games for that are Dishonored and HL2, maybe DooM can join them.
>>337613301
If you feel like its something you will play all the way through, why don't you just buy it?
>>337613301
>crack
You're gonna be waiting a while
Its pretty good so far, I was afraid of casualization, handholding, QTEs, too much story, etc but surprisingly the game turned out to be fine
Its not Doom but still a decent shooter
>glory kills aren't that flow-breaking and can easily get used to it, even satisfying sometimes
>weapons are pretty cool
>level design is actually good as fuck and also complex (compared to other modern shooters)
>little to no story or cutscenes, there are some interruptions but they are really short
>music during fights is top tier
>AI is decent, enemies are strategically moving around instead of shooting from a fixed positioninb4 shill
>>337611801
>unless you like piss easy games
>enemies are bullet sponges unless you melee
>melee gives you health
The simple answer is don't fucking melee, faggot. Jesus, these people are like the same ones who screamed that the new Deus Ex had highlights on objects you could interact with, even though you could turn that shit off.
>>337612342
No, this was my first playthrough. Someone on the Doomworld forums mentioned that UV wasn't as hard as in the originals.
>>337613391
>buying games
>>337607270
>I meant we as in gamers
>mfw
>>337613301
>I jsut want a crack to be available
m8....
bunch of fucking nerds holy shit just buy the fucking game
>>337613301
>I just want it for free
>I-I-I mean I don't want to er.. support iD
>Uh.. no wait I will buy it eventually really, I just don't support this sort of thing
>But I will totally buy it after I have completed it for free plenty of times I swear.
>/v/ always cites TotalBisquick as some sort of authority on PC gaming
>/v/ loves Giant Bomb
>TotalBitchtits and Giant Bomb both love DOOM
>/v/ hates DOOM even though nobody here ever forms their own opinion
I don't get it
game is fine
the game has some "flow" issues though.
It spends a lot of time locking you in "arena" style spaces where you just have to kill until new things stop spawning in.
After that, you're usually a bit "turned around" so progressing to the next area usually involves you working out which way you were going in the first place.
Overall, it creates a weird lull, where you are alone and pick up the remaining health/ammo before working out where to go next, and then have some more fighting.
>>337613758
Don't try to understand /v/.
>>337613528
SHIT YOU FUCKING GOT MECandle sniffing fuck fence, go climb a wall of dicks./
>>337613818
thats how the original DOOM worked though
unless you already knew where all the keycards were you spent a lot of time running around after killing everything
>>337613818
>working out which way to go
>having to explore is bad
xDDDD
>>337613523
>game designed around getting free health and ammo from awesome-button-animations
>GUYS STOP PLAYING THE GAME HOW IT'S INTENTED! YOU SHOULD ALL PLAY IT LIKE A GAME FROM 1993, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DESIGNED LIKE A MODERN SHOOTER AND CANNOT BE PLAYED LIKE A CLASSIC ONE! TRUST ME! PLEASE TRUST ME!
nope, no money for you mr bethdrone
>>337613758
it just a prank bro
we want everyone in the world being able to enjoy gaming haha
everything on /v/ is ironic, dude lmao.
>play for a couple hours
>start getting heavy fps hits and have to restart
anyone else?
>>337614069
turn down the texture cache. biggest fps killer for me.
>doomguy can jump
this casual piece of manure wont get 1 buck from me, sorry.
>>337613935
more like
>enter a room
>fight until you work out the layout of the room
>kill everything
>a door has opened somewhere in the room, but there's no real clue
>so just run around the room until you spot the new hole to exit through
>>337613391
>>337613676
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and not support Bethesda, that's super ok with me, anti-pirates are the worst thing to happen to this board.
>>337613930
original Doom's "arenas" are much larger, and you can often just run past dudes to grab keys, etc
>>337613758
I hate giant bomb and total shithead, I also hate d44m, but I liked quake 3 and spent over 900 hours in civ V even though never playing the earlier ones. what now?
>game actually allows you to look up and down
refunded this shit so hard, doom is supposed to be about killing shit not aiming
>>337614239
>there's no real clue
the fucking map paints explored area with blue and unexplored with grey
>>337614239
You are literally clueless
>>337613758
it is all b8 m8
/v/ literally has no vidya taste
it is merely contrarians and hipsters trying to "rise above the sheeple"
So multiplayer is apparently horseshit. I will just wait until this goes on sale on Steam for 20 bux in a year or two.
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>>337614343
I remember when I actually wanted to buy fallout 4 back then, but after all the shill-threads on /v/ I actually went ahead and pirated first - and boy, was I glad to not have wasted $60+ for this. I don't even want to pirate D44M anymore after I read about having to unlock your own speed.
modern gaming has become like modern movies - a bunch of polished superhero shit with the occasional gem between them.
>>337614650
You can torrent the game right now.
You just can't crack it.
>>337608563
Yeah, no its not. I finished the game on nightmare on my first run
>>337614784
>having to unlock your own speed.
boi, /v/ sure played you good.
you keep the same speed throughout. the only speed that you can upgrade is weapon switching, ledge grabbing and alt fire swapping.
but if you need them to win, you are just shit at the game and the shooter genre as a whole.
>>337613818
you know the game has a map right?
>>337614431
>look at the map
what great design, why not just build a topdown google map
I mean, they could put a visual clue in the actual game terrain, but yea, you could just have players pull up the map after every arena fight
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>>337614582
>I will just wait until this goes on sale on Steam for 20 bux in a year or two.
late summar sale will be already cheaper, you will get it for next to nothing around autumn/winter, trust me on this one.
they did not reel in the cod/halo audience, the oldschool players hate it and the modern doom audience still stick to their original doom modding.
it literally has no audience besides casuals who buy it because they saw advertising on some media channels. no lasting value on this one.
Single player is great, really makes you feel like some actual super soldier that is extremely pissed off
>That feel when using the runes that give you armor for glory killing + the infinite armor past 75 armor + speed boost after a glory kill
>Run around at doom 1 speeds just spamming super shotty
>>337614784
>after I read about having to unlock your own speed.
Fuck, never believe /v/. You start with the speed you play the whole game with. You only upgrade weapon switching speed.
>>337615078
>Denuvo V2
Probably never.
>>337608272
>>337608740
game uses screen space reflections, so if ever doom guy model is on screen so he will be in the reflection
full reflections are just too much gpu power expensive
>>337615078
Never, id decided to fuck everyone over with Devnuo
>HURRR LETS FUCK OUR PAYING CUSTOMERS OVER
>HURR LETS BREAK THEIR SSDS
Doom is the new dark souls
oddshot.tv/shot/draqu-2016051419746607
>>337614971
I prefer to play shooters were you have your full speed at the beginning of the game, sorry.
even rpgs give you full speed for the game. sorry, no buy, friend. not even pirate. when you do a shooter, do a shooter, not some kind of physiotherapy simulator in hell
>>337615043
> they could put a visual clue in the actual game terrain
they did, it called not being a whiny idiot and actually remember which door you came from.
>>337615195
I'm still pretty impressed with it. Guns are reflecting everything around them pretty nicely. Seeing a random decal on the wall's color shine across the super shotgun is nice.
>>337615298
You have full speed at the start, anon
You can go pretty fast
>>337615191
I can't tell if he's agreeing or not.
>>337615195
>screen space reflections
no, they reflect exact environment they are in
idtech6 uses ray tracing techniques when loading to prebuild the reflections
>>337613523
>JUST DON'T MELEE
First off, still there
Second off, the enemies are bullet sponges. So the gameplay obviously revolves around it. So far nobody here has ever said anything about not using glory kills
>>337615298
so you won't play any shooter that has bunny hopping because you have to work for your speed? wew lad
>>337615298
>even rpgs give you full speed for the game
so you havent many rpgs then.
or even action game on top of that
why dont they give you the chaigun and the shotty at the beginning bust a shitty pistol again?
the default speed is fast and enough to win the game on nightmare is all that I'm saying. I dont even tell you to buy it.
How do I get past this door?
>>337614784
Hahaha, buy the shit right now. Your speed is the same throughout the whole game. The only upgrades are stuff like better double jump, health/armor/ammo, and some weapon upgrades (that are actually new functions of the gun, not just 8x acog 360 noscopes)
>>337615413
>I can't tell if he's agreeing or not.
Neither idiot. He's shutting down the argument entirely before it takes off. He made her look like a moron.
>>337615231
>>HURR LETS BREAK THEIR SSDS
Still posting this ebin meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX379zScuZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJZyeAR7H0
>>337615298
>even rpgs give you full speed for the game.
What RPG doesn't let you increase your movespeed by leveling agility or taking perks?
>>337615626
Turn around and go down that ramp to the right. You'll end up with a yellow skull after some fights.
>>337615626
find a fucking yellow skull.
>>337615409
>>337615552
>>337615579
>ITS FAST OKAY ITS JUST FAST ENOUGH YOU DON'T NEED SPEED
God, have you cunts ever played a classic FPS? Its so obvious how hard you are shilling
>>337615735
I already killed everything there, but can't find any skull. I pushed a skull into some pedestal thing and the objective then said to go to that yellow door
>>337615231
It's actually hilarious to see people take /v/ shitposting seriously and missing out on decent games because of it.
Like, this nigga is gonna respond saying I'm a shill even though I have an SSD and have played three Denuvo games for over 100 hours each.
>>337615729
shitty one
like dark souls.
he posted dude sex and not even realise the irony of his post. a cause lost to meme.
>>337615749
you need to put those nostalgic glasses off, old doom wasnt even a fast paced game, it was room by room dealing with enemies, or open space enemies encounters just like this doom
>>337615859
Hmm, maybe see if there is any icon that says where a skull is on the map. Strange because the navigation thing is telling you to go to the door now.
>>337615859
just follow the map faggot
you can't get lost
Hey so are there ways to perform different Glory Kills? Is it all about how you approach the enemy?
>>337615874
How much cash do you get per shill? I'd reckon its like $0.10USD
>>337615859
Then there is some enemy somewhere who is still alive and cucking your shit up. The game is fucking gay in that if an enemy gets stuck sometimes you can't proceed to the next area. Probably better just reload your checkpoint
>Tfw 660TI
>Tfw wont even get 60FPS on low probably
This game sucks on the bone
>>337616156
It's alright dude. Shouldn't take much time now for every single person who bought DOOM's SSD to wear out and then you can finally be proven right.
>>337616203
Yeah, ended up reloading, and now it's good, thanks
>>337615703
Fair enough, that makes sense. Thanks, pal.
>>337616130
yea, there's one for jumping directly on them, one from behind
I think there's legs vs heads, etc as well
>>337615749
>God, have you cunts ever played a classic FPS?
doom 1 2, deuk3d, shadow warrior, blood, all of the quake
and no, serious sam or painkiller belongs to the school of horde shooter, not "old"
they are as fast as the level design demand them to be, and they have plenty of corridor mixed with open area not sanic speed maintaing momentum horseshit you memelover sprout everyday.
>>337603719
>I need to know before I go to my friends house
If you NEED an opinion on something in order to interact with other human beings, especially when you're trying steal one from this shithole of NEETs and piratefag weebs, then you really need to learn how to socialize and think for yourself.
That goes for all the rest of you other faggots also.
>there's secret areas that use assets from the original game, including switches and pickups
does this mean people can do shit in SnapMap with those assets?
>>337615552
bunny hopping is something that I can learn myself and make me feel warm and good about myself.
>>337615579
>so you havent many rpgs then.
dark souls 3 currently, full run speed in souls games from beginning of the game
I also played fable, the fallout series, pokemon, gothic, dark messiah, bg&e, darksiders, half-life, doom, stalker, thief, deus ex etc just to name a few games that give you your full speed at the beginning of the game. basically every shooter gives you your full speed when I think of it. and really, most rpgs.
I mean, I can list more game if you want, these are just from the top of my head, I have my steam library with over 300 sorted rpgs open right now, lots of rpgs in there.
>>337615749
I played Quake, you fucking [spoiler/]silly-billy
Speed-wise, it's alright. Roughly classic Doom speed.
>>337616245
>i will state something before even knowing it
get the fuck out
>>337615729
basically most. what kind of rpg makes you faster with more egility? I'm playing mostly western ones like morrowind or gothic
>>337616430
I dont even meet to minimum settings retart
>>337609695
>Oh shit, it's the human that killed half of hell itself!
>If I kill him, I'll be the biggest baddest demon ever!
>Satan Sempai will notice me!
>Ohnohesbeatingmewithmyarm
>>337616467
then why are you complaining? still, get the fuck out
>>337616306
Cool man thanks
>>337604024
>this guy actually lets /v/ decide which games he likes
What in the fucking hell is wrong with you? Play it yourself and decide. If you actually let /v/ decide what games you like then you will literally never like video games.
>>337616508
>Satan
>implying Hell even has a hierarchy in DOOM
>>337603719
>not being able to formulate your own opinion
Beta as fuck
>>337616443
Wasteland 2 and Underrail for two recent release. Agility gives you more AP and allows you move more tiles per turn.
So hows the single player content? Enjoyed all the dooms, even 3, and still play wads on occasion. Is it a half assed 'campaign' a la CoD or is it a real campaign with some meat in it?
I'm so tired trying to advertise this game, can you just buy it please? We need ALOT more sales.
>>337616578
Did you not read the part where I only have a PC masterrace rig but dont havve the spare cash 2 buy it, and OF COURSE id fucked everyone over it Devuno
>>337616638
Real campaign as long as you turn compass, objective markers, and glory kill highlights off.
>>337616638
It's the clear focus of the game. Nothing half assed about it.
>>337616638
So far it's got some meat. Level design has some verticality and nooks and crannies to explore. Enemies hit pretty hard. And there are lots of secrets and different objectives. Feels like a well-balanced mix of new- and old-school shooter. Would recommend.
My opinion, I think it's one of the best games I've ever played. Call me a retard if you want but I think it's pretty fucking close to 10/10 (fuck the load times)
>>337603719
WHY THE FUCK IS THE GAME SO BIG?
THERE'S NO NEED FOR THIS SHIT TO BE 40+ GB
Which demon is the best one to play as in Multiplayer and why is it Baron?
>>337616591
>Agility gives you more AP and allows you move more tiles per turn.
oh, I was talking about real-time games. round-based movement speed in isometric games is an entirely different control scheme.
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>>337616745
>>337616840
Thanks friendos. Been hankering for a solid shooter.
>>337603719
DO YOU MAKE ANOTHER THREAD EVERY SINGLE TIME THE LAST ONE DIES OUT JESUS CHRIST ITS ALWAYS THE SAME
>SO WHATS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS?
>WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS?
>WHAT DOES /V/ THINK?
>DOOM 4 GENERAL OPINIONS
>IS IT GOOD OR NOT?
>DO WE LIKE THIS OR NOT?
AND THE TITLE FIELD FROM THE THREAD CREATING BOXES IS ALWAYS
AND I MEAN A L W A Y S FILLED IN THESE THREADS
THERES NO WAY YOU CAN SAY THERES NO SHILLS IN THIS CRAP AND KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE
>>337616873
I wouldn't say it's the best game ever, but well worth the $35 I paid. Mine loads fast on a regular hard drive even, don't know what's up with yours.
>>337608005
Not that dude
but more than 2 weapons at a time, real melee options, arena multi
>>337616245Nigga, I'm running a 560 right now. Don't complain.Yes I'm saving for a new rig.
>>337617046
What fps you getting and your screen resolution?
>>337617027
I'm a dirty consolefag
>>337607270
holy shit fucking god fuck OFF
>>337603719
I like it
>>337616696
Then do some research yourself. Dont just take the word of a bunch of anonymous NEETs.
>>337609695
maybe 23 years have passed in the game too?
>>337617106Zero. I don't have it. What I'm saying is your situation could be WAY worse. Don't blame the game for not being able to run on outdated hardware, blame yourself like I am.
>>337616696
Are you actually crying that you can't pirate it?
>>337616916
Huge mega textures, which they are using since Rage
>>337604024
go find another hobby you mongoloid
>>337603719
/v/ was wrong again as usual
the game is fucking awesome
best fps since shadow warrior 2013
>>337607056
You..... Don't belong here.
>>337617252I'm also not here to express any opinions, since I don't own the game. I'm just here to see how mad /v/ is.
>>337607056
>Making up your own standards is not having standards
Wut?
>>337604024
>we don't like it
kys famalam
>>337616007
>>337616309
>>337616413
>Doom was never fast meme
>its just as fast
How to spot a marketer
Nobody was saying this before you fags showed up
>>337616329
deus ex 1 and 2 have fucking leg augment
>darksider
>rpg
>list stealth games
>speed
In fallout increase agility equal run speed. fallout 1 2 doesnt speed up your animation but they let you cover more ground in combat. fallout 3 and nv increase run speed when you increase agility. only fallout 4 maintain the exact speed throughout.
stalker slow you down when you carry too much. you can also take drugs to enhace your speed.
so you dont pay attention to the game you play? got it. typical underage trying to fit in.
Why every secret classic level looks way worse than it did 25 years ago?
>>337615191
Carmack you need to stop making comments like this before your fanbase forms a religion around you.
>>337608683
>halo clone
You either didn't play Halo or Doom.
Pick one.
>>337617932
The lighting and shaders weren't made with it in mind.
>>337611782
i wish he did this for quakeguy and keenguy too
>>337611338
I'm pretty sure those are the fallen marines that Sam took with him on his journey to hell in order to get the key thing.
The guy in doom 3 was just some random marine. Explains why he was so slow.
>>337611113
nice samefagging famaland
>>337611801
>the pace of the game is slow
Stopped reading there
The pace of the game is very fast, you are constantly dodging enemy projectiles while firing at them on higher difficulties.
>>337611572
>Games need to be a little more complex today then "FIND GUN, PICK UP GUN, SHOOT IT"
Why? If you're not gonna do this why call it doom?
>>337619130
>analogy shitskin
>>337619273
There's nothing wrong with being muslim.
Islam is a religion of peace.
>>337615078
JEW NIGGER
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>>337619273
>>337619364
Shashkin is a Russian surname, retards. Remember Shalashaska? His name comes from Shashka and Sharashka supposedly. And Anatoly is a popular Russian name too
>>337604887
Seems accurate
>>337606214
>2gig 980ti
What
>>337619616
yea, he's russian.
posts pictures of himself wearing one of those russian hats, with vodka, and dos install disks
Which attribute should I upgrade more first? Health, armor or ammo?
>>337615078
Just a matter of hours our top hackers managed to get into loading menus in just 3 days.
>>337610012
Why not go High and 1080p instead of shit in 1440?
>>337619961
>our
Is this shitposting 101?
>>337619751
It is a bug in speccy m8. If you have a 980Ti look at your speccy. Here is GPU-Z for cumparison.
>>337619895
It doesn't matter because they wont carry to new game.
AMMO of course you idiot
>>337619895
depends how you play
more ammo gives you more time to stay at range
health is less important if you glory kill a lot, and those heal-stations will fill you right up
armor depends on you getting hit, and finding shards
>>337610842
>D44M
>DAAM
>>337619130
holy shit, this is seriously advanced autism
>>337615458
>idtech6 uses ray tracing techniques when loading to prebuild the reflections
the fuck you on about
no it dosnt
>>337611338
Is there full written plot anywhere?
I am legit interested about lore.
It's Brutal Doom in HD and it's easy to see who hasn't actually played it yet.
Neo-/v/ hates it and nothing will change that.
>>337621292
From what we know, the guy we play as is actually the original Doomguy from Doom 1, 2, and 64. Tablets you find in hell detail the story of a warrior who stormed Hell after the loss of fellow humans and fucked them over so hard their earth invasion collapsed, and he returned every so often in different worlds (megawads by fans) just to fuck them up over and over again, becoming a god of Death in their eyes.
After failing to kill him via combat, they lured him into a trap and sealed him and his armor in two demonic coffins impervious to any harm so that he'd never awaken again.
Later, alternate universe UAC finds their way into hell and starts exploiting it for resources and finds Doomguy and his armor. Much later they manage to awaken him, and the game starts.
To the demons, you literally are their ancient evil that has awakened.
Single player is linear and repetetive story is tedious. Would not recommend.
>>337616928
I wish Hell Knight was playable, he seems fast as fuck in SP and Snapmap.
>>337621793
Why did Doomguy have weird demon symbols in the palm of his hands when he woke up?
>>337621793
>alternate universe
oh, that explains a lot
>>337604024
Look anons we children's board now
>>337621793
>they lured him into a trap and sealed him and his armor so he'd never awaken again
>no Demon ever went "why not just kill him while he's asleep now?"
I feel like I'm the monster and the enemies are desperately trying to stop me
Like there's a demon on a scaffolding and I just leap up and break him in half with my bare hands in a fraction of a second before flying tackling his idiot friends.
>>337603719
is fucking great man.
>Old school feel
>Great maps
>secrets
>great music
If you are playing this on console just kill yourself , this on pc is so fucking GOOOD.
>>337622409
Because, as the second-act twist of any RPG will attest, trying to kill, control, or otherwise exploit a sleeping ancient evil never goes well. It always wakes up and it's never happy.
>Seal Doomguy away
>He doesn't just die of old age in there
>He's not any older when he gets out
>>337622864
Dude was rampaging around hell for so long that he's practically made of bad magic juju by now.
>>337611348
I actually had many imps run from me, it got annoying near the end of the game due to the bigger areas
>>337623067
He did have those symbols on him like >>337622249 said, so he's probably changed a bit.
So maybe he's not human anymore?
>>337623067
One of the codexes actually mentions that a demon actually betrayed his kind and build a tech suit that even interfaces with demonic energy better. Which explains how durable the suit is and how absorbing those demon energy orbs gives him extra health or ammo.
>>337610214
You can look up and jump so it's not SHIT
>>337604887
completely wrong evaluation
the game doesnt play like TNO and shit, those games sucked
>>337622409
>hey! let's kill this sleeping god of dead
Do you think that is it a idea?
>>337621417
>anybody but neo-/v/
>liking brutal doom
>>337619895
Health first, then either armor or ammo asthere's two runes you can get which can make monsters drop armor when glorykilled and give infinite ammo as long as you have 75 armor or more
>>337623379
I would love to read a comic or something about the one demon that was smart enough to not try and kill Doomguy.
I imagine it going down like this comic, except with some demon getting tired of Doomguy showering his house with gore.
>>337621793
So how the fuck did he hop realities into different invasions and different hells?
>>337619895
ammo once or twice, starting amount is garbage
then whatever
>>337623891
I think it's one hell that crosses across all possible realities. Either that or just magic.
>>337623891
Hell itself seems to be a dimensional nexus of sorts. So he randomly pops out into different locations and realities Hell is invading or got brought into and he slaps their shit up to the point where the invasion flat out fails.
>>337603719
>We
Can't form your own opinion?
>>337605397
>put both feet on the ground and point them up
what the shit I cannot imagine how that works without being hilariously impossible looking
inb4 haha fat joke
>>337611338
They put a lot of effort into the lore.
There's giant statues of these guys so they can't be recent.
There's also a ton of completely unexplained shit.
The game is fun as fuck.
Finally a more traditional shooter and not another one of these terrorist / marine / USA USA shooters.
Fuck what a breath of fresh air.
>>337624771
You can actually run across the Icon of Sin in hell, now pretty much dormant. A spawn cube even pops out if you shoot the head opening.
Which provides a bit more credence to the protag being the OG Doomguy.
>>337611338
the main character is one of these guys hes just an ancient warrior who fought against hell and kicked its ass, people who are saying he's the same guy from the classic games are completely wrong
>>337625030
is John Romero's head inside of it?
>>337613301
>>337613676
To be fair, buying it tells publishers that DRM is a necessity.
>>337625241
Nobody's gotten in it yet. Here's a video of it.
>>337625241
Nope
It's Curt Shilling
>>337625342
>making money means not making money by enabling piracy is a bad thing somehow
"I'll buy it after trying it if I like it" is the biggest fucking lie ever told by anyone here
>>337625030
You can find the Soul Cube from Doom 3 as well.
>>337611241
I don't remember
When do we get an updated NEDM?it's been 11 years
>>337625112
There's some part of the game where the player character needs to get ID'ed and the picture is the OG doomguy face. I'm pretty sure it's the same dude.
>>337625595
>when do we get another instance of some foreign kid killing a cat and making a video of it
hopefully never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8pB2BIqkvQ
It's surprisingly good. Whenever the game started I was worried because it felt as if the game was going to be piss-easy, but its steadily becoming more difficult and fun as more enemies and weapons are being introduced. Combat is pretty fast paced, and reminiscent of old school shooters. My only issue would be the forced cut scenes along with all the some of the other shitty typical AAA design decisions. The music is pretty good, and I enjoy how it changes depending on how many people you're fighting.
The glory kills were annoying at first, but they've definitely grown on me. As I saw one other anon say, they're basically takedowns from Hotline Miami, and once you get into the groove of combat, they fit in well enough.
I'm only a couple of hours into the game, but so far its definitely better than expected.Shame about the multiplayer though. I never got to play Quake/UT in it's prime, and I was hoping for this game to be somewhat like those, not some shitty halo clone.
>>337626260
I don't see the problem with the full game's multiplayer and I'm convinced people are just assuming the barebones beta was an accurate representation
>>337604887
>>337604887
That webm isn't remotely indicative of the entire Doom 4 experience.
Higher levels grossly change enemy lethality without making the enemies too damn spongie which is awesome.
The lower levels aren't even that spam happy with power ups and shit. The only thing the lower levels allow you to do is charge HP into Super levels (200%) and it makes armor mitigate more hard damage per point of armor.
>>337605397
>>337605397
Am I not the only one who wiggles is toes and shit idly while gaming? I never let my legs sit dead still for long periods.
Just out of habit if anything.
How the fuck can people even do this?
>>337616320
in the future they said they are going to release some yes
>>337626703
I incessantly tap shake my legs (toes on the ground, bouncing my heel up and down).
Its probably because I work a desk job, and thne come home and sit at my computer. Though I get up and walk around every hour or so cause I hate sitting
>>337626818
>>337626818
Can't do desk jobs.
Can't even imagine myself working one
last job I had was a satellite TV installer
I fucking loved getting up early and driving all over the state to install shit at random peoples houses.
Especially up in US, West Virginia.
Came across a place called Burks Garden, shit was neato.
>>337609851
wuz
>>337626703
>am I the only one who shits idly while gaming
It's as oldschool an FPS as any game released so far and yet people will still shit on it. The maps are huge with secrets, there's no weapon limit, reloading, regenerating health, or anything else that people hate about modern FPS.
But it's still considered to be shit, so I guess nostalgia really is just nostalgia.
>>337627086
Meh, its not so bad once you get used to it.
I really love my job, I currently do database processing/mail programming for a FUCKNIG HUGE mailshop in Ohio. We produce about 35million pieces of "advertising mail"Junk Maila month
>>337626454
What's good about it?
>>337622409
Because they already tried killing him in Doom 1.
Know what happened?
he ended up in Hell.
if they kill him, he'll just go to hell and keep killing them there, the only way to get rid of him was to seal him away
Every single game
EVERY SINGLE NEW GAME there are these fuckface shills that spam dozens of threads that all mysteriously disappear once the game is out for more than two weeks.
EVERY SINGLE GAME is the best thing ever GOAT wins every award ever and then it fades into obscurity every single time. FUCK OFF
>>337627107
Gotta have your shit bucket son.
IF you're up in a bathroom shitting, you're not killing
And if you're not killing you aren't getting Experience & levels son!
>>337621793
>they actually made fan wads canon
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
Does anyone know how long the campaign is? I like singleplayer FPS but if it's short I don't really want to spend the money.
>>337604024
God damn you are retarded.
Completed new Doom and enjoyed it. Did it in about 13 hours. 100% every map. The thing that is so different for me than original Doom was how much the game was like Darksiders. The weapon mods, rune mods, collectables, and challenges. When I heard Doom had RPG character building elements I thought the game was ruined. But I actually enjoy it. And I fucking love original Darksiders, Darksiders II got a little too much MMORPG influence for me to enjoy.
>>337627631
>>337627631
It's SEVERAL hours from what I've seen
Cutscenes & demon chronicler monologue account for nearly 2 hours by themselves if the video I watched last night was any example.
>>337611572
Are you trying to say that weapon upgrades weren't a thing for technical reasons? Are you retarded? It's absolutely banal to implement compared to basic FPS functionality.
>>337627897
cutscenes are maybe 20 minutes total
>>337622385
/v/ is a childrens board... fucking little kids olaying video games all day fucking kys little fucking kids, i'm going back to /pol/ where adults talk about political tactics. Come over when your done sucking on the tity white boy.
>>337627289
>doesn't give a fuck about balance there's plenty of one-shot shit like the Gauss Cannon
>everyone runs fast as shit
>you get to rip and tear as a Baron of Hell
I just want to know if my piece of shit PC can run it or not. I might pick it up on sale.
>>337628852
I ran the beta fine on a 660ti after turning some settings down. You should be fine.
>>337603719
Anyone know the cheapest site to buy this on? Heard you can get it for under $30
>>337627398
Every single game
EVERY SINGLE NEW GAME there are these fuckface memers that spam dozens of threads that all mysteriously disappear once the game is out for more than two weeks
EVERY SINGLE GAME is the killing videogames worse than the armenian genocide vidya crash when then it fades into obscurity every single time. FUCK OFF
>>337627631
I clocked in at probably around 11 hours
anyone attempting ultra nightmare yet
>>337629843
that is pretty long for a run and gun game. how many "missions" are there as in levels combined
>>337617772
but genuinely, it wasn't that quick
the speed is definitely associated with games from the era, like quake, but not the original '93 DooM titles. Not without mods, at least
https://youtu.be/tt3E7S8me2E?t=48m5s
you explored room to room and fought at your own pace
I regret starting on Nightmare, I'm finding almost every secret and now the game isn't really gonna have and incentive to replay it, not like Ultra Nightmare is gonna be possible for me
>>337627398
have you considered that maybe some people are genuinely enthusiastic about new games? That some people want to talk about new games?
Have you considered that people might purposefully make threads that are overly positive to get (you)'s from paranoid dudes like you?
>>337630449
You can start on Nightmare. It's locked.
>>337630719
Can't, I mean. You can't start on Nightmare until you beat the game.
>>337630719
>>337630819
I started on Nightmare, not him.
I dunno why some people can.
>>337630719
only ultra nightmare is locked
>>337630819
>>337630719
the name is just red, not locked
>>337631265
>the name is just red, not locked
This seems to have fooled a lot of people.
>playing on Nightmare on PS4
Just got to the first Summoner and I got my shit fucked up. Playing this with a controller is a higher difficulty of its own.
>>337631592
why
why are you doing this
>>337631265
What the fuck. Why did they color it different if it's not locked? Oh well I'm not restarting now.
>>337631742
>playing an FPS designed for consoles on PC
why
why are you doing this
>>337631592
>buying an fps on console
>>337626703
I rarely sit down for over an hour without getting up and moving around. I don't know how those crazy Koreans can sit and play at those internet cafes for fucking days without moving.
>>337631742
>>337632046
Not him but the game's perfectly manageable with a controller.
>>337632045
>playing an FPS designed for consoles
yeah , nah
afterplayiing with mouse , its better.
On console is like a fucking rpg/Fallout. Fuck that shit.
If FPSes weren't fine on a controller they wouldn't make multiplatform versions
Why does everyone on /v/ unanimously refuse to admit that a console FPS is the reason the genre is even relevant today
>>337632268
wew m8, dont post again
>>337632420
>meme
>>337632268
Mouse and keyboard (really its just the mouse) DO offer much greater precision, but very few games require said precision and Doom isn't one of them. None of the Dooms are.
>>337632559
>mouse offers better aiming
>controller offers better movement
>that part where you have to survive the lasers to get thebfg
How the fuck? I can't jump over them because they're so slow, and destroying any/all just brings them down in a really fast line pattern
>>337604887
I did an Ultra-Violence runthrough of the Ultimate DOOM last week, and I played some Duke Nukem 3D usermaps I downloaded the day before D44M's release. And I really like D44M.
Don't make stupid assumptions about taste anon. D44M is not just like the old one, but it does hit all of the right notes with map design and combat that it is able to stand on its own.Multiplayer is admittedly a completely wasted opportunity, though.
>>337616696
>>337616578
>this is your avarge PC-gaming-masterrace-poster
fuck, thx for getting me mad at 4am.
>>337616696
HUE pls go
>>337632910
They are literally all from r eddit.
>>337632910
its 4 oclock in the morning, why on earth are you shitposting at 4 in the morning
>>337606081
Same boat, and if you're a fan of arena shooters the multiplayer is the best thing of the sort in a AAA title in 9 years. I think people just see the aped cawd customization and then get raped by people with chainguns and decide it's shit. That said, melee is far too emphasized in multiplayer and singleplayer, there's no deathmatch and there's only like 5 fucking maps.
>>337633134
>there's no deathmatch
could you at least play the game before you parrot people who only played the shitty beta
>>337632042
the locked one has a literal lock next to it
>>337632869
the little platforms that you can jump on
Played it at a friend's place since he has a brain disorder that makes him pre-order stuff that he thinks even remotely looks good to him.
The SP campaign is shockingly not bad. It's pretty fun; basically just "AAA Brutal Doom with far fewer enemies and less of a sense of humor".
They definitely could've done worse; the stuff they were working on before the complete revamp they did mid-development sounds like it would've been shit.
I'm legit shocked it turned out as well as it did given that almost nothing survives a mid-development turnover. (see: Thi4f)
that being said, don't pay full price for it.
>>337633397
There's just tdm outside of snapmap right?...
I've played all the gamemodes that have people on them, nigger, and I recall a distinct lack of deathmatch.
>>337604024
My friends give me shit all the time for browsing /v/ thinking this place formulates my opinion but I guess some people are retarted enough to get their opinion here.
>>337632869
Have you noticed green lights typically indicate a platform you can do ahead and mantle up on. Say, perhaps from the top of the chamber with the gun?
>>337633919
What little platforms? Where do they appear?
Just bought it, it's fun enough for 60 bucks I guess
If you liked the original DOOMs and want a sort of mindless shooter akin to them, you're going to like it.
If you always have a massive throbbing boner for the original DOOMs and think that "NO FPS CAN BEAT DOOM/DOOM2!", you're going to hate it.
The only people that really hate it so far are the DOOM purists. People that basically wanted the game to play exactly like the old games in terms of movement and gunplay.
However, I do think the whole weapon upgrade system didn't really need to be in the game, and arenas turn from fun to tedious. I still enjoyed it overall though. Not worth $60 though, so either wait for a crack (lol it uses Denuvo, good luck), or pick it up off of a site like Kinguin or G2A for cheap.
>>337604887
>if you like old Doom like real players like myself
really we're doing this right now
>>337609730
>User reviews are shit, unless I agree with them
>Gaming journalism is shit, unless I agree with them
really the only option is to play for yourself.
>>337607621
>NPCs try to shit exposition and Doomguy just ignore them.
I love that about the Doomguy right now. Doesn't care for the story, keeps it light because he personally doesn't invest in it, straight to the next fight.
>>337634023
Well I guess I'm blind, thanks anonI actually did manage to do it on my first run by somehow getting close enough to the edge that the lasers went around me, thank fuck that's not the actual way
>>337603719
its alright. anyone who says its shit is an autistic nostalgiafag and anyone who says its 10/10 is a shitposter.
doesnt feel like doom, feels more like some sort of weird faster paced halo with a focus on close combat and progression. but thats okay, because it's its own thing and it's__________fun.
>>337604024
the fucks wrong with you. the games fantastic. dont let other people decide for you retard. besides /v/ has worst taste in everything.
>>337617168
OFF is a good game you piss of shet
>>337606019
Are you so insecure around your friends about not having played something, a video game no less?
I kind of wish I hadn't spent full price on it. SP is fun but not 60 bucks fun. Gunplay feels pretty weak to me and combat doesn't feel very satisfying half the time. Level design is pretty nice though and clever with secret placement.
>>337634042
Jump ontop of the room with the bfg and you should see 4 platforms 1 in each direction
>>337607057
Why does it make doom guy do the terminator thumbs up?
>>337634332
It's not fantastic. We're drowning in a marketer wave right now trying to damage control.
Doom Crack when?
>>337604024
Are you literally 12
extreme slowpoke here
this isn't spoopy horror-style gameplay like in Doom 3 but straight up running and gunning like old ones right?
Didn't dislike D3, just wanna know what I'm in for, to be honest.
>>337634569
Never.
It's Denuvo. Any cracks you get will either become obsolete once the game updates, or have issues out the wazoo that the retail game wouldn't have.
If you're really interested in playing it, you'd be better off buying it on something like G2A for super cheap, or waiting for the Winter Steam Sale. Hell, there may not even be a crack for it yet by then.
>>337634758
Yes.
>>337634758
there is not a trace of 3 in this one
>>337621793
>HDoom is canon
>>337609754
ya
the trouble would be finding a pc that can :)
WHO WAS THE DEMONIC VOICE
I WANTED TO KILL IT
>>337634764
Damn, because this game looks fun. But GTX 680 here, so pretty sure it won't run well. Will probably struggle to keep 60 fps on medium to low settings.
So was actually hoping to test it before actually buying it.. Guess I'll just have to wait for sale then.
>>337634873
>Repercussions of Evil is canon
>>337635129
The game actually runs well on a 680. It runs well on pretty much anything from the last 3 years.
Thank you id for using the Vulkan API.
>>337621793
where were you when Doomguy reaffirmed his status as best vidya character?
