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Morrowind.
this better be some high quality bait
Your favorite game.
non-meme post:
Nep
>begging for attention
Ok
>>337573149
No, your.
>>337572243
Worst genre desu
>>337572243
Baldur's gate? Half-life 2? Ocarina of Time? Chrono trigger? Super mario world? Am I doing this right?
>>337573286
It is amazingly dull, isn't it. Click on an enemy until he's dead.
>>337572243
RPGs used to look so good
>>337572243
>say that to my face fucker in game and see what happens
>>337572243
It's pretty good. Strong atmosphere, mindless but fun gameplay (at least until you reach the higher difficulties at which point you need to think about your build and so on but I never liked the "late-game" of Diablo 2)
It's definitely worth playing through the normal difficulty once.
In diablo 2, don't you just click on shit till it dies?
Like there are no abilities you just click on stuff, it dies, and you heal yourself with potions.
LITERAL shit if you enjoyed this you probably have OCD or something else wrong with you.
>>337572243
>pic not related
>>337572243
ur mom LMAO
Any AAA game released in the last 10 years.
>>337574218
>deus ex
this image is 100% factually correct
>>337575472
theres literally a skill tree with 30 skills per class
there are 7 classes which means 210 skills all together
some are passives though
combine that with a crazy amount of gear that effects skills and stats, its makes for a great game
>>337575575
OH FUCK OP ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>337575472
>no abilities
but my sorc uses 7
>>337572243
Every clicking loot "ARPG" for that matter
Paladin is fun af
>>337575472
There are spells but yeah most of the game is just clicking on stuff until it dies, it offers almost no challenge whatsoever.
>>337575660
And you pretty much had to synergize the shit out of one skill if you wanted to do any damage.
>>337572243
Undertale, not baiting either.
>>337575472
No. That's not true even for the first diablo.
In diablo 1, you have to find spellbooks to learn abilities, meaning you do start the game like that, but quickly find yourself using spells, even as warrior.
In diablo 2, you straight up haveoldworld of warcraft style talent trees with passive and active abilities.
>>337572243
why is the necro tanking diablo?
>>337576103
Because Barbarian has shitty build.
>>337576103
Why didn't the necro use decrepify, clay golem and a freeze effect to bug diablo into doing 0 dmg
>>337576103
His skeletons died
D1 is better
>>337572243
>paladin being useless and not helping his team
sounds about right
>>337575876
>>337575472
>I like to complain about games I've never been in the same hemisphere as
I fucking hate Blizz, but come on. You guys are just retards.
>>337572243
>listening to diablo 2 OST
>stumble across this thread
>>337572243
Stellaris
too fucking barebones
Johan was planning for dlc from start
>>337572243
Super metroid
Most zelda games
Half life 2
>>337576420
>D2 OST
aw yiss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4iHTR_FUM
>>337572243
Honestly I agree. It can be addicting for awhile but goddamn is it shallow. The whole genre is shallow. I've tried like four different Diablo clones and always got bored.
I wish they would try to make the core mechanics fun for once, instead of just ripping off Diablo 2 over and over. People need to stop dickriding that game, it's caused creative stagnancy.
>>337575623
>t. indie hipster scum
go back to X game nobody has heard of or cares about and is absolute shit
>>337576372
Played all Diablos since the first one as well as Sacred, TitanQuest and Torchlight. They just can't be difficult like say an Ys game, they are made so that misses mostly come from stats rather than player skill, dodges come mostly from stats rather than player skill, advanced movements are automatically learned and 1 click away, etc.
DOOM 4
not on /v/ but on steam sure. it's just another boring fps. these kids dislike call of duty yet play clones of it
>>337576078
Druid slept through his alarm clock. He'll get his shit together in Act V
>>337576775
The difficulty in D2 comes from planning builds and gearing up, not from actual gameplay.
>chess isn't hard it's just about moving pieces lmao
>>337572243
>barb got killed first
>necromancers pets are gone and he's about to die
>motherfucking paladin coming in to save the day
Amazing how accurate to the game this piece of art is.
>>337572243
gil yourzelf :-DD
>>337576775
You do know that when D2 came out, Ys was a sidescroller doing this thing where you just auto-walk into an enemy with your sword sticking out, right?
Also, I never said fuckall about skill vs. stats. I just said the game is more than spamming left click like you two underage shitters said.
>>337576959
Gearing up requires no skill.
Builds are pretty much built for you since synergies came into place.
Come one man. You know the games don't really take skill.
>>337572243
If we are trolling then i'd say doom 2, Because you know i'm just trying to get replys and that seems like the best way to do it.
>>337575472
>you just click on shit till it dies?
like any other game there is
>>337577103
It's all about the minmaxing friend.
There are a whole lot of shit builds that won't solo hell without specific gear pieces.
>>337577097
>Better games came afterward, therefore the older game must be good
That's just silly. Do you hold Battlezone in high regard just because it pioneered first person shooters? It is shit by today's standards, and so is Diablo 2.
And the game is mostly spamming left and right clicks.
>>337576497
>Half life 2
im triggered
>>337572243
Hang yourself OP
>>337577390
reminds me of that 13 year old on youtube who made a long video saying why half life is bad
>>337577369
I literally never once said the game was good. Who the fuck are you even replying to?
I am the absolute biggest anti-nostalgiafag you will ever meet anywhere. Point me to a single place in either of my posts where I said "Diablo 2 is good."
I literally only said it's more than spamming click. Which it fucking is. You swap skills in D2 pretty often.
>>337577369
>It is shit by today's standards, and so is Diablo 2.
D2 is still the best game in it's genre.
The fact that you dislike the genre as a whole doesn't change that.
t. differentfag
>>337577743
How could D2 be best in genre when D3 is more fun and obviously a better game? Thank you based Wilson for creating a great game and disregarding all the things which made the previous game shit.
>>337577907
Can you not
I mean I enjoy RoS and it's good for 30 or so hours every season but goddamnit
>>337572243
NEW LADDER IN 3 DAYS TIME TO REINSTALL LADS
>>337577907
OP was bait enough but D2<D3 defies human sanity
>>337578174
might even just do that !
Ocarina of Time
>>337578174
really? omg
>>337578174
Would rather play singleplayer desu
>>337578340
everything > ds2
>>337578492
ok but we're talking about diablo and not dark souls
>>337578340
Better graphics, more abilities to use, more varied and satisfying combat, great loot. It's the better game.
>>337578654
>Better graphics
irrelevant when the game mechanics/story are worst
>>337575472
if you play necromancer you dont even have to click
>>337578928
Story is irrelevant compared to game mechanics and combat, which are in fact better in D3.
>>337574218
>two Metroids
Seems legit.
>>337579069
>D3 story better
aaaaand confirmed bait.
Nothing to see here folks
>>337576775
What about Nox? Which was made by (now defunct, thanks EA as always) Westwood Studios?
It was even more simpler than Diablo 2, but I liked it better. It's also very comfy.
>>337577907
>D3
>Better.
Diablo 2
>Five classes (7 with Expansion)
>Every class can be built in a multitude amazing ways.
>Can be played without an internet connection.
>Uniques have unique effects allowing for off the wall character builds (Bear Sorceress for example).
>Rune word items allow for characters to access strange and new powers, facilitating cool builds.
>Skill Trees and Skill Points made it possible to make very crazy builds.
>Game has actual challenge.
>Expansion added more the game, made it drastically better, but didn't reformulate the entire game to do so.
Diablo 3
> Five Classes (6 With Expansion)
>Every class has one or two good builds.
>Has to be played with an internet connection.
>Uniques are class limited in usefulness.
>Rune Words are gone.
>Skill Tree gone. Too hard for people apparently.
>Game is stupidly easy that a 5 year old mashing the keyboard can complete it.
>Expansion had to rework the base game dramatically because the base game was so garbage.
>Killed the soul of Diablo Franchise because E-Sports.
>>337579209
No, hell no, I mean that story doesn't matter when comparing the quality of a loot sim.
>>337579461
Path of Exile is the true successor to Diablo 2.
>>337579682
path of exile is so trash it cant even call itself an action game
you are delusional if you think d3 doesnt have the best combat out of all these games
>>337579741
I weep for how willingly blind you must be to believe this.
Admit Path of Exile was too difficult for your D3-addled brain to learn and you will be forgiven.
>>337572243
Diablo is a woman I thought
>>337579826
Not him but I've beaten both, D3 definitely has better combat. PoE isn't bad but D3 is better. The rune shit system ruined PoE for me, wasn't fun at all.
>>337579741
>Best Combat.
>Just spam my AoE while rushing through Rifts.
D2 GOAT for Isometric Loot Crawler.
>tfw you fell for the stalker meme
>j-just play on master i swear that makes it better!
>>337579682
D2 has no true successor.
>>337579938
>rune shit
....what runes. Nigga are you drunk.
>>337579975
master + complete mod
It's pretty bad otherwise yeah
>>337572243that Diablo though
Let's stop the Diablo/POE war.
I think we can all agree this is some supreme fucking trash.
>you know TQ was a terrible game, what if we just made it again lol?
>>337576372
yeah because assraping cows all day wasn't retarded enough you retard
>>337580174
Can confirm. Will bury my Exile hatchet on the basis that Grim Dawn eats its own shit.
>>337579975
Its really not for everyone.
That said, when it initially came out the atmosphere and spooky creatures were what did it for me.
Mods can still make it a very enjoyable experience.
>>337580249
what do you think this is nigga 1.09 lmao
though cowruns were comfy as shit back in the day
>>337580013
Skill gems, sorry, been a while. Garbage system though.
>>337580174
I didnt think it was that bad. Just boring, then again I dont really care for the genre that much.
>>337578654
>Better graphics
the game is Glowing. Making things shining is not only different from good graphics, it's the exact opposite of what a game fucking called Diablo should be.
>more abilities to use
No. Just no.
>more varied and satisfying combat
you can literally stack 99% of your points in any skill in D2 and make a new build. Think of old WoW talent builds, but with talents that actually make a difference and that you can stack indefinitely.
>>337578978
>Full summon necro with no bone abilities (or CE).
>Rape a path through /players 8 doing basically nothing.
>Go into Nightmare.
>By the end of Act 1, fights are basically trench warfare with both sides repeatedly blasting each other but nobody making any progress.
Because I didn't have twinked gear, I had to take it off /players 8 a few times just so the stalemate was broken.
>>337579461
>Every class has one or two good builds.
Define good. Otherwise I can say exactly the same about D2. I would say D3 offers many more good builds.
>Has to be played with an internet connection.
Eh, console version can be played offline.
>Uniques are class limited in usefulness.
Some uniques (they are called legendaries) define the entire build.
>(Bear Sorceress for example).
>good
>Skill Trees and Skill Points made it possible to make very crazy builds.
And most of them end up being useless.
>Skill Tree gone. Too hard for people apparently.
D3 skill system allows for more experimentation, doesn't punish you for choosing weird skills (farming skill rerolls is the dumbest thing ever).
>Game has actual challenge.
This is fucking Diablo game. If you stick to a half decent build this game is piss easy.
>Game is stupidly easy that a 5 year old mashing the keyboard can complete it.
See above.
>Expansion added more the game, made it drastically better, but didn't reformulate the entire game to do so.
>Expansion had to rework the base game dramatically because the base game was so garbage.
You clearly don't remember how vanilla D2 looked like, even though I agree D3 on release wasn't great either.
>>337577007
>fucking paladin decides to actually enter the room
Yep, thats a useless paladin for you.
>>337579975
STALKER, to me at least, is much like Mount & Blade. It's a great fucking game, it's just deeply flawed and needs a competent, well-funded developer to give it some TLC.
>>337580907
>Some uniques (they are called legendaries) define the entire build.
More like sets define builds because the set bonuses are broken as fuck, then you take the individual legendary bonuses that compliment that build that the set pidgeonholes you into
That new ring set bonus changes things but honestly by the time I farm T10 with zero effort I'm not gonna bother trying out a gimmick build that takes hundreds of hours to farm all the ancient legendaries because game is boring yo
>>337580174
This is the only game I've refunded on steam, and this is coming from a big ARPG fan.
Felt kinda bad, really. I was looking forward to it.
What bugged me the most except from the game being boring, was just how much stuff that was stolen from TQ.
Not only was all of the UI the exact same, but the font, the stats, the skill tree design..
It literally felt like a mod for TQ
>>337573181
Dont feel bad only /a/ faggots enjoy it.
Neptards have outed themselves hundreds of times on the board saying they only like it because of cute girls doing cute things its a shit game.
>>337576780
>He didnt know anti CoD faggots were worst then CoD faggots thenselves
Your learning every day.
>>337580907
>Some uniques (they are called legendaries) define the entire build.
Legendaries are garbage and sets define builds by giving shit like 1500% pet damage.
>Define good. Otherwise I can say exactly the same about D2. I would say D3 offers many more good builds.
Yes every class has one or two VIABLE builds if you want to get past Grift 50 and not just farm T10
>You clearly don't remember how vanilla D2 looked like, even though I agree D3 on release wasn't great either.
If by wasn't great you mean nearly unplayable garbage then yes, you are right.
I understand you wanna defend D3 and I enjoy it too but come on, D2 is just superior. Its nearly objectively better in every aspect.
>>337577548
>Dark souls 3 fanbase has becone so autistic they unironically like this piece of shit that even Miyazaki is ashamed of
The game was crap and I wish the meme of it being good would fucking end.
>>337576959
That's why it's complete shit compared to D1 and ruined the genre. That's not fun.
>>337582431
Nigga how did D1 have harder gameplay than D2
>>337581148
16 year old retard: the post
>>337582514
>positioning infinitely more important, especially as melee
>loot not as important
>enemies INFINITELY more dangerous, especially the ones that permanently reduced your max HP
>>337582585
Is there anything wrong with what I said?
It applies to Dark Souls too. Great potential, but deeply flawed and incompetently developed.
>>337580549
>you can literally stack 99% of your points in any skill in D2 and make a new build.
And it's going to be a trap option 90% of the time. Why the fuck would you ever make this argument?
>>337577217
>clicking a single button
>vs combos
>>337572243
whatever game you like.
>>337576959
>The difficulty in D2 comes from planning builds
You can plan your whole build in 5 minutes tops.
Choose a decent skill, dump 20 point in it, dump points into synergies, dump 20 points into other decent skill and synergies.
>and gearing up
Stack +skills attributes, ias/fcr depending on build, all res
Get Enigma and some other fancy runewords or uniques.
Stack enough str/dex to use gear, dump rest into vit
Overwatch
Every Metal Gear
Uncharted series
GTA series
>>337583430
>Get Enigma and some other fancy runewords or uniques.
>"get" enigma
>Jah takes weeks to farm on /p8 if you're lucky
ur 1 cheeky fuck aint you
>>337580174
titan quest was awesome and grim dawn is also awesome.
suck blizzard's dick you fucking faggot.
>>337583641
Someone hasn't got Enigma
>>337583430
This. The question isn't whether D2 is going to be hard, it's whether it's going to be tedious before your build gets going and how long it will take to get the gear you need to break into Nightmare/Hell.
>>337583785
I liked Grim Dawn and I slowly started to lose my love for it, around level 40 everything got stupidly hard and unrewarding as fuck, I played with my brother too. I don't know, the fun just got sucked out of it really fast and respecing was terrible.
>>337575175
That was before the cartoon era of manchildren
>>337584375
I loved diablo's artstyle in 2 but is there really anything wrong with cartoony graphics? People just scream mobile and cry about it but there really isn't anything wrong with it.
With that said I do think D2 style is the best.
>>337580174
Such a boring and generic game. I remember being super hyped when it was first announced.
Wasn't it supposed to have attacks on your towns? And wasn't it supposed to be very open world or something?
And that fucking soundtrack man. Aside from one or two decent tracks everything else is put you to sleep tier.
>>337573248
you're*
>>337585965
it looks shit.
it lessens immersion.
Great TECHNOLOGY bits, but that's about it. Lacked a lot of content IMO.
RDR is the definitive edition.
>>337586129
Yeah but for example, Does civ have that much immersion? and it looking shit is really a personal thing.
>>337574218
This bait is too powerful for me.
FUCK YOU, MOTHERFUCKER.
>>337585965
It ruins atmosphere?
>>337586885
Is civ a roleplaying game? Does it have a strong narrative and characters?
No.
>>337587529
Yeah but its also filled with magic and skeletons, Just because you can't get immersed in cartoon graphics doesn't mean someone else can't.
>>337582267
>that even Miyazaki is ashamed of
Sauce?
>>337577390
He's right though. It did nothing better than HL1 apart from graphics and physics, both of which not enhancing the gameplay in any way.
>>337575472
honestly this
but thats the whole point of the game.. you just turn your brain off and hold click on stuff.. the satisfaction comes from all the cuhrazyee effects, loot drops and gore.. but yeah gameplay wise its dull as shit
>>337572243
Replace that 2 with a 3 faggot.
>>337587685
I never said no one could get immersed in cartoon graphics. I said it was for manchildren.
And don't try to argue with me that cartoons aren't designed for children.
I've been playing Sacred 2 for the past month. Everything about it screams bad ARPG design.
>limited build options
>level scaled enemies
>uninteresting uniques
>boring dungeons
>damage sponge bosses that pose 0 challenge
>you literally use 1 skill over and over throughout 98% of the gameplay
>leveling is just increasing your stats by a miniscule amount undetectable while playing
>you never find items that suddenly make you OP for 5 levels or change your playstyle
And somehow I can't stop. There's like 700 quests in the game and I haven't even completed a third of them.
Send help.
>>337589963
I loved sacred1 but heard bad things about 2. How does it compare?
>>337576370
more like
>everyone else is dead or cowering in fear
>fearless paladin on his way to fuck shit up
>>337589963
I've tried it as well, quit forever after an hour of play because of shit artstyle + downgraded gameplay compared to previous game.
>>337590107
I played only a few hours of S1 and I couldn't get into it. Probably because I picked a shit build and never made the effort to understand the mechanics, so it stopped working around level 15.
From what I read on forums it's pretty much more of the same with prettier graphics. You still have a huge world you're more or less free to roam with hundreds of NPCs ready to send you to kill 10 monsters X with a few lines of amusing backstory.
I don't think there are any huge mechanical differences. People bitch at the camera but you can disable autorotation and lock it north-up and it works most of the time.
>>337590654
What was downgraded from 1 to 2?
>>337574218
>Super Metroid
>overrated
SotN babby detected
>>337588170
I can try to argue all I want, We aren't talking about cartoons, we are talking about stylized cartoon graphics. You're just being an opinionated asshole.
Its a unique artstyle now when everything is going to the same old shit graphics wise. I would much prefer a colourful world over the countless desaturated things we get now... You just seem to want to insult people instead of giving valid points.
Why do Americans call hack & slash Arpg?
>>337589963
I have no idea how i forced myself to play this shit. I got far with Elf. But goddamn was this boring. Sexy Elf/Seraph helps a bit.
>>337592204
Yeah I think a dual wield seraphim is the only enjoyable build I found. I started like 10 characters just to abandon them after a few hours. I tried a sexy elf but spellcasting in this game is so slow and uneffective, coupled with the lack of fast run skill that makes getting to places a real chore.
>>337592110
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_and_slash
>>337592110
Why do people call diablolikes hack&slash or ARPG?
ITT children confusing meme games with games that were so good that everyone copied them and then 20 years passed
Meme games:
planescape
la mulana
deus ex
Games that were so good that everyone copied them and then 20 years passed:
super metroid
chrono trigger
doom
street fighter 2
>>337593425
Games copy Deus Ex constantly though.
>>337592683
Idk man, i hacked my way to make it enjoyable. Its not, not even when hacked... I tried to play original one too, neh, it shit.
>>337576103
Paladin is just there like.
>Shit guys sorry, was making food
