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How does this video make you feel /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
How does it feel knowing you wasted your parent's hard earned money on nothing?
>>337564018
You mean on video games?
Disks die, data is forever if you back it up.
>>337564018
I just don't play those games.
I think it's a waste of energy to be angry all the time just because they exist
>>337564018
I still believe that hats ruined TF2.
>>337564018
one of the streamers saw it live.
>>337564928
forgot link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptaWLYX9I0Q
>>337564018
This is the fault of the players, not the businessman.
It's like blaming tobacco stores instead of the retards that smoke.
>>337565012
>laughs like a moron
>>337565243
i've never subscribed to that ideal, it's really predatory.
>>337565012
>>337564928
>his expression changes right after the reaction faces when he realizes what a dumbass he is
>tries to laugh it off at the end despite his eyes looking sad as fuck
welp
>>337564018
>have skins for over ~120 euros
>only spent about ~20-30
>>337564018
I've never spent a dollar on a single cosmetic dlc or whatever you wish to call it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self
>>337564018
This vid is on the same edgelevel as anonymous threats.
That was the most try-hard video I've ever seen in my life.
>>337565789
>>337565787
>knife users
>>337564018
Indifferent. Dipshits will always find some way to throw away their money.
>>337565826
Nah sorry, gaiboi.
Your video was just laughably awful. Maybe next time make the music even spookier. That'll drive home the point you can't even effectively make!
>>337565736
That dudes makes some amazing docs. Or video essays, like some people call it
>>337565787
you spent money on skins didn't youDON'T LIE
>>337564018
>that narcissus part
I regret everything.
>>337564018
Is it just me, or was that reference to Narcissus seem so ham-fisted and out of place? As if it was just an excuse to name drop something in Greek mythology.
Who cares about cosmetic only micro-transactions? It isn't required at all. If you choose to its your own prerogative.
Retards buying cases just means I get content updates without putting money in.
>>337566036
The fuck? I wonder when the fucking meme started that CSGO is a good game. Shit was hot garbage since it's release.
>>337565243
>>337565445
There is no alternative. The only other way would be to forcibly take control over it, and decide what the population can and can't do, government tells you what is good for you and what is not. You can say then, well if what they government says I can't do is actually bad for me, it's alright, but it still robs you of the freedom of choice. We have that now, tobacco, alcohol, drugs, this skins shit, and no one can tell you not to do it, and that also means you are responsible for the damage you cause yourself, not the one who distributes your personal drug. Therefore, yes, the way it stands today, it is the fault of the "players", the users. Stating it's "predatory" by companies to maximize profit because some people are stupid is an inane comment and cannot change anything, people must say no and by saying no the company will have to do something else. I don't know of any third way, but as it is these are the two to pick from and there's positives and negatives to both. What >>337565243 said is objectively true.
>>337564018
I make my own money thank you very much.
>>337566076
The entire video was hamfisted and out of place.
You couldn't gather that from the 2spooky music, disembodied voices of people saying nothing relevant, and the forced "I just took an Intro to Humanities class at my local community college" mythology?
The video is so edgy and try-hard I had to squint just to watch it.
>>337566076
The whole thing is laughably pretentious.
It plays creepy background music while having some faglord tell some ominous story about narcissus as if opening a case in csgo is the road to hell. As if spending petty cash on stupid micro transactions is equitable to a fucking crack addiction.
>>337566076
Slightly, there's no denying the tail end of millennials and this new generation have a massive problem with narcissism though
>>337564018
>Look what a scam
It's not like they will support games for free. This is their business model. Buy that shitty hat or they will pull the plug.
Another option is monthly subscription but I don't see it coming back. At least you have that shitty cosmetic item now.
>>337564018
>never purchased a single tf2/csgo/whateverthefuck key crate or etc
thank fuck
>>337565946
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198163298621
>has fucking smurf accounts to get dota 2 items
>>337566217
I guess, but that doesn't really have anything to do with CS:GO micro-transactions.
>those sections from this video- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-PRC4WRoCE
I made £2200 from CSGO after spending about £200 total. Yes, Valve are keeping people out of their money, but blame the community.
>people don't understand what an amazing deconstruction of the capitalist system the Valve in-game economies are
>>337566207
>As if spending petty cash on stupid micro transactions is equitable to a fucking crack addiction.
I don't think that was the point, I think it was to illustrate this: >>337566217
>>337566297
It has everything to do with it. Customizing "yourself" and being "unique" with skins and everything.
>>337566217
>its the "the new generation has worse problems than the old one" meme
People have literally been saying this for all of recorded history.
>>337566351
Thats a retarded point. Narcissism is no more a problem than it was 50, or 100, or 500 years ago.
>>337566280
I purchased the practice weapons and a couple of nice cosmetic items. Don't see why people get so crazy about crates and unusual items.
Who fucking cares.
If you are mentally retarded to buy weapon skins it's your problem. I'm glad that it's only cosmetic and that they don't offer any gameplay advantage.
>>337564018
>tfw spent like 200€ on skins and I have zero good ones
>my knife is battle scarred forest ppdat falchion knife
>spent 55€ on that
>>337565012
>they only talk about the reactions
These "people" need to be purged.
>>337564018
"When I purchase one of these things, I look like a fuckin' idiot"
>>337566440
>social media has changed nothing in regards to people's narcissism
I think you might be retarded, man.
10 years ago literally no one would defend this.
>>337564018
everyone knows it's bullshit though
>>337566291
Or to play with IRL friends who were 2k lower MMR.
But right, I'm sure my inventory worth $2 that I've never spent any money on is the real issue here.
Record a video of you slowly scrolling through my shitty inventory while 2spooky4u music plays and you have Reagan in the background talking about the Contras or something. That'll be another 10/10 video, senpaitachi.
I have never cringed so hard in the entirety of my existence until now
>>337566713
Unless you can quantify "people's narcissism" in some concrete way and then show me studies that confirm that it has increased, you are just making a supposition.
>Crying about streamers/youtubers dropping thousands upon thousands of dollars on case openings
For the $200 they drop on a case opening, they make $500 back in ad rev.
You know this instantly when you see someone like Kootra mentioned in this shit and how after an entire year of no real drops, with an estimated $10k wasted, he still decides to do it week after week. Its the same with Phantoml0rd, he's got more money than you can imagine, and he's spending it to make more.
The issue lies with kids who even after seeing people fail constantly, still want to drop money into a completely chance system. It gets even worse when they're using roulette systems. That has nothing to do with the people making these videos though. Because its not their money, or they've just entered the real world with an addiction to this shit which was allowed by their parents giving them money to buy keys constantly.
>>337564018
>200 hours in csgo
>20 skins
>only spent $15 on the game itself
Value only exist where people allow it to.
someone explain this to me
>>337566376
No-one said anything was worse. Are you saying that different generations of people don't have substaintially different upbringings and therefore don't think/act differently?
>>337566440
The rise of social media and the fact that cameras are on everything these days, beg to differ.
SO want prevents you people for making shit for the TF2/CSGO workshop and make mad dollars?
No. The one things that killed TF2 is the trading. Not the hat. The hat are nice, cosmetic are nice and welcome into a games like TF2.
Trading killed tf2 because now it's all key / metal, if i want a hat i have to pay metal and not pay with a hat the other side's like because "It has no value on backpack.tf"
i wish Valve destroyed trading by making all hat droppable again and making it so you win a hat if your team has a victory. Not too hard to do, considering how much cosmetic item there is in TF2, it would push people to win for their hat.
Just likes rocket league.
>>337566376
And they were right.
>>337565012
>It is real great video
>skipped half of it
>only 5 minutes long
Millennials.
>>337566965
No, they don't "beg to differ" and unless you can cite any peer reviewed scientific studies to support your claim you are just making stupid suppositions based on your personal interpretation of the world like an ignorant ass old person.
>>337567061
wow, edgy
>>337566781
cry more, junkie
>The USAF loves the F-35 more than any other project in history…[b]ecause it’s a disaster. The biggest, most expensive, most shameful procurement scandal in American history. I hear you asking, ‘Wait, wait—are you saying it’s even worse than the F-104 Starfighter, the plane the Bundeswehr called ”The Flying Coffin”?’ Yes, I am. Because as bad as the F-104 was, it didn’t cost $337 million per plane. That’s the projected cost of this godawful flying pooch, the F-35. $337 million per plane. Yes, folks, for slightly more than one billion dollars, you get three very bad airplanes.
Please explain t me why should I care about a few idiots getting crazy about some polygons and textures in a computer game.
>yfw the people attacking this video have probably spent over 10 bux on skins/keys
>>337564018
Me? No.
I've never bought anything like that.
I'm disgusted that this works so well, but I understand it.
>>337567096
You do realise that unless you are past your mid 30s you are also a millennial right?
>>337567109
5 seconds in google.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/allinthemind/young-people-today-are-more-narcissistic-than-ever/5457236
>>337566840
>>337567109
>keeps saying "supposition"
>"ignorant ass old person"
You must be one of those reddit "scientist researcher pros" right? Are you a mod on one of their news subreddits?
>>337567248
I don't think anyone is attacking this video because they like hats.
I think they're attacking it because of the cringe.
Never understood these skins shit. Don't know how people fall for the marketing.
>>337567349
It is gambling m8.
>>337567215
>please explain to me why I should care about a problem relevant to my interests when something worse happened to someone else at some point in history
Hot argument there.
>>337564018
>never paid for any cosmetics on TF2 and CSGO
>sell the ones i get and don't like
>buy games with the money from it
I don't see the problem here, valve gives me the chance to buy games for free because of this.
>>337566201
>>337566207
Really, what's with the music?
It's so dumb, it borders on satire.
Companies monetizing on their costumer's vain pursuits is a good thing, and I will shake the hand of anyone that does it.
>>337566931
please?
What's the complaint here?
If you are poor or can't affrod this shit you don't buy it and play the same game as evryone else.
If you are rich i doubt you will care if you spent 200 dollars on skins.
>>337567272
I skimmed over it but could find a link to the actual study
>>337564018
That canned conspiracy theory music was a little over the top. It's just fucking hats, dude.
>>337567606
Nevermind, it appears to be a whole book
Well that unwieldy for internet discussions
>>337564018
Besides the purchase of the orange box, I haven't spent a single cent on TF2. In fact, I've made money by selling hats :^)
>>337567669
OR IS IT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWIkqEnVG8I
>>337567427
That's not history, that's billions of dollars being wasted right fucking now. The total cost of the project is estimated at more $1.5 trillion dollars. And this involves countries from all over the world.
>tfw PC gamers are all dirty, depressed gamblers
>>337567832
Doesn't apply to us pirate master race
>le spooky music
>le narcissus shrivelled up and died
>all TF2 and CS:GO players only care about how they look in-game
So what, the video doesn't tell anyone what people don't already know. These are just virtual items.
>>337564018
Never paid for skins, ever in these games. If I got something rare I'd prob say noice, then move on...why jump around screaming like monkeys.
>>337567832
It's completely optional.
>>337564018
who cares
Can somebody explain to me what the fuck all this about? I watched videos and i don't fucking understand what with these reactions at all
is it this thread again?
where neets get irrationally angry at people with disposable income?
>>337568018
they got some rare jpegs
>>337568018
Same here. I guess its the guys getting excited because of some rare shit they got and the girls pretending to for their twitch followers or w/e.
What I dont understand is why does the OP claim ''VALVE BTFO''??? If anything it should be 'bravo' for the amount of money they make on literally fucking nothing
I used to love Valve, but they effectively killed themselves off. Much like Blizzard.
RIP.
>>337566846
its just sad that pre-teens like watching some Mr Fancy Twitch streamer just uncrating some fucking texture just because its "rare"
putting value in texture files is fucking brillliant, props to you valve
These are the useful idiots of society, don't think for one second that any of you wouldn't do the same if put in a position to exploit the weakness of some people to better yourself in society. This also goes back to the Jew dilemma that /pol/ can never answer, if Jews are so cancer, why are they then allowed to gain control of the banking system of every country, media and entertainment? The answer is, people allow it.
>>337564018
>they are not actually gambing
>its random
what kind of retard thought it was otherwise ?
this video is useless
>>337568194
I don't like this trend as much as the next guy but microtransactions are a thing in almost every game nowadays. At least in valve's games, you get the complete package and the gambling metagame is not really mandatory.
>>337568278
its because success breeds jealousy.
Where jews go, wealth follows.
>>337564018
>valve blown the fuck up
>still making thousands of dollars from this system right now.
>>337567474
>spent like 1,50€ on Mann Co Store to support TF2
>4 years later on a interview they say they made it F2P because the income from Mann Co was much bigger than game sales
fuck me why did i even care my first hat was the halo and idgaf i just love the game please valve fix the performance before adding more hats it was 175 hats on 2010 already you jews
you cant keep releasing unoptimized model files every month
>>337568194
fuck off Overwatch will save Blizzard and Legion is going to reinvigorate WoW you fucking fuck
>>337568194
How exactly did the kill themselves?
>>337564018
>VALVE BTFO
>we are making millions of dollars because of this system
can someone btfo me like that as well?
>>337565012
>>337564928
HAHAHA this fucking cuck
first hes laughing and then hes like ''i fucked up i fell for it''
>>337564018
>they see your dick
I'm not really sure why anyone would take exception to valve's method of utilizing micro transactions. It is probably the most fair and ethical way to do it.
Their base games are either cheap or free, and without putting any cash shop money in you have the same gameplay experience as anyone else. Buying items can't give you an advantage competitively, so you only have to do it if you want. Valve makes a lot of money from people with disposable income who like buying virtual items, and they get to use a portion of that income on free content updates that all players get to enjoy. If some saudi prince buying 5000 hats is the reason I still get tf2 updates a decade later, then I hardly see what the problem is.
uncrating videos are really popular, the more they spend uncrating, the more in ad revenue they get
>>337565012
>>337564928
This idiot is completely oblivious
>Any slightly serious video about vidya
>Put in some spoopy music
>aww dude, so cringe
>>337567248
>10 bux
>a lot
lol get a fuckin job kid
>>337564018
what's truly sad is that weapon skins and model skins were free to download back in the day. if you wanted to skin your Q2 character, you went to a website and chose whichever one you liked.
I can't believe they actually found a way to charge people for it.
>>337568018
Basically you gamble for skins on CS GO which do nothing but add a texture to equipment. I think knives are pretty rare and they shit there pants when they get either because they are part of the youtuber screamer generation. Have nothing to say but scream instead and little kids like and subscribe.
>>337568018
>Can somebody explain to me what the fuck all this about?
Autism, everywhere.
>>337565012
>>337564928
sees the reactions laugh at it then he hears about how he got scammed basically then he skips the rest of the video quickly because he knew he fucked up and then in the ending he gets another blow
kek
>>337568668
yeah i mean thats been like that for years, i remember downloading crappy weapon packs for CS 1.6 and other stuff, and now people that never ever cared for mods are buying this ugly candy-looking weapons everyday
>>337568278
>This also goes back to the Jew dilemma that /pol/ can never answer, if Jews are so cancer, why are they then allowed to gain control of the banking system of every country, media and entertainment? The answer is, people allow it.
>>337568481
as game developers, they did
>>337567932
There are a shocking amount of people who spend fucking major money buying these items. I had a game were a little kid spent his 500 dollar steam card on some knife. I wonder how the parent who bought him that would feel if he knew how poorly the kid spent the money.
Granted, I evidently spent like 60 bucks in game so I can't comment.
>>337565603
>have piles of dirt for over 120 euros
>only spent about 20-30
>>337565012
>only watches the reactions
>only talks about the reactions
did he even get the point of this video?
is this what we have become where humans can't see the meaning behind videos and just look at 1 tiny part and think thats what the video is about
>>337565012
>he didnt open a chest at the end
fuck, missed opportunity
>>337567759
>wah wah stop talking about video games and talk about airplanes instead!
Maybe /v/ isn't the right board for you.
>>337564018
DELETE THIS
>>337568806
for me the saddest part is how they used their most unique game TF2 to test most of their profitability enhancement methods before passing them to other games.
>>337564018
The video editing/ambience in this is particularly disturbing and unsettling
>>337568858
he clearly wasn't interested in the part that criticizes the very thing he's guilty of.
his followers are such sheeple, they don't even call him out on it.
>>337564928
You do realize a lot of streamers get donations and pretty much end up with a net gain total for opening crates.
My friend has spend over 5000€ on Dota2 and CSGO
but he still pirates new games because they are too expensive for him
valvedrone are fucking mental
I'm I supposed to know what any of this fucking garbage is supposed to be?
Fucking counter strike, "esports" and moba faggots are the fucking worst cancer to come to /v/.
>>337566201
the narcissim thing is dumb but the music is fine
zeitgeist is not the problem here, the problem here is "this is what valve has become"
>>337568987
Back to your Nintendo thread you fucking autistic child.
There's literally no difference between paying for skins and buying any other kind of video game ever. It's all unproductive garbage that rots your mind. Any argument you use to refute this statement is just as valid for defending skin purchasing.
>>337568920
for me the saddest part is
>intrusive drm station necessary for 90% of pc games
>sprawling of indieshit
>no QA over the shit they sell
>terrible custumer support
>no user ownership over game licenses
>>337568908
Why do you care so much about people getting excited about a game you don't play?
Also the F-35 is videogames so fuck you. More than one trillion dollars gone to waste and you idiots are whining about a bunch of middle class idiots wasting a few hundred dollars on pixels.
>>337564018
>reference to Narcissus
>Not quoting Foucault instead
He had one job
>>337569089
>one provides a form of entertainment
>the other is a $100 texture
MFW when somebody in my country spent $100000 on Crossfire
>>337569084
SonyCuck detected
vidigaems are srs fugn bsns
>>337564018
Tfw had my steam acc 11 years and have 4 - 5 games on it
Feels pretty good in hindsight, long gone are the days you could sell your games on and put the money towards x
>>337569089
wrong
skins add literally nothing to the gameplay, while buying a new game literally gives you new gameplay
I play both dota adn CSGO and never bought a single skin
>>337569159
People are clearly entertained by them or they wouldn't buy it.
>It's a "Gachapon/Crate shit is okay, you should totally roll" episode
Japs been doing it for years and now you fell for the gacha drug because Gaben told you to roll for a gaudy $200 knife for $300
>>337566307
>dude if you earn money YOU WILL DIE
>>337569127
>terrible customer support
they "fixed" this with their terrible steam mobile authenthicator and other uncomfortable security BS
basically, adding as many layers of security as they can no matter how annoying it is.
man they started doing it a long time ago when the scammer bot stuff happened and some retards fell for it
basically makign the whole system worse for everyone because of the few stupid ones
>>337569159
>one provides a form of entertainment
You can pirate the damn game and get the same amount of entertainment. Buying games is no different than wasting money on a skin.
>>337569206
Well yep, that's how casinos work.
>>337566076
Clearly the point flew over your head, despite the buildup with the character silhouettes.
>american education
>>337568620
>I don't know shit about economic
>>337567215
>tfw my country just bought into this disaster
Fucking corrupt politicians.. I wonder how much they got under the table for this deal..
>>337568781
>conspiracy
Facts are facts bruv. Hindus don't control the US government with their money.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewcong114.html
Jews do.
1.7% of the country is Jewish.
10 out of 100 senators = 10%
19 out of 435 reps = 4.3%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaries_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress
Average congressional salary = 174k
Median American salary = 51k
Don't pretend that they don't control you disproportionately.
>it's a my method of obtaining dopaminergic releases is more valid than your method of obtaining dopaminergic releases episode
>>337568806
But they have never been good game developers in the first place. You can't call Half-Life a good videogame with a straight face.
They have been and still are good, however, with earning dollars and making clever business decisions. A good Quake mod? Hire creators. Well-balanced Half-Life mod? Hired. Blizzard is shitting on its cool W3 mod? Fuck it, we will hire this designer. Their best games are not theirs per se.
>>337567331
You would only cringe if you have some kind of investment in these shitty cashgrab games.
>>337569424
Sorry you can't handle data and statistics, instead resorting to ad homs. Good luck on your McDonalds job in an hour.
>>337569283
>Buying games is no different than wasting money on a skin.
really? explain how spending $100 on a knife skin is the same as playing through a campaign of a video game. how are the two exactly the same?
I play CS GO a lot, and TF2 casually and I can tell you millions of people think like this. I've bought a total of one "crate" key in like 3 years which was one too many. Now I sell every drop I get in game + trading cards from games to get money off vidya.
I'll tell someone to try out a cool game on sale for like 3 euro and they'll go "ehhh too much" yet every single week they'll go ahead and buy key after key, continually getting absolutely fuck all and still throwing money at the system. It's unbelievable, people just sit for ages unlocking cases because that's fun to them, people sit on twitch streams watching other people gamble money for textures.
Whoever edited that video together has a really high opinion of himself
who gives two shits about cosmetic items, shouldn't you be ranting and raving about p2w items that actually give you a competitive edge? you're just as bad as the mouth-breathers that sperg out over stupid knife skins
>>337569451
No, you just need to be over the age of 16.
>>337569402
>dopaminergic releases
Get out of here nerd.
>>337564018
This video is stupid and just sounds like it was made by a retard. People buy things based off aesthetic alone all the damn time.
>>337569549
but muh spooky music video
>>337569402
you could also print a weapon skin and cut it out to put it in your screen while you play
>>337569549
t. someone with 2k spent on skins.
>>337564018
So in tl;dr its "Spending money on skins is bad" or something like that?
Hey, I personally think that CSGO skins are fucking useless shit but if someone want them so bad then what is the harm in it?
It's not much different from people buying expensive clothing, they just want to look "nice" and "cool" in front of other people.
>>337569435
>You can't call Half-Life a good videogame with a straight face.
>>337569638
YOR DOING LIFE RONG!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>337568183
rare stuff sells for thousands of irl monies
>>337569620
t. csgo knife owner
>>337569549
t. valvecuck
>>337564018
Hi crowbcat.
Are you going to spend all week shilling this video you made like you did with giantbomb's vr video where you cherry picked clips to show VR in a negative light?
You're an excellent propagandist I have to admit. you should work for feminist frequency, I hear they have a position open.
>>337569435
>You can't call Half-Life a good videogame with a straight face.
Half-Life is a good videogame.
>>337569656
>anyone who disagrees with me is obviously just mad!
lol
>>337569497
Just kill you're self already you fucking fag.
>>337569620
>People buy things based off aesthetic alone all the damn time.
Yet they don't have to gamble to get it.
>see a nice-looking dress in a shop window
>have to roll 1d20 to buy it, spending $2 each roll
Or, you know, you could just buy the dress at MSRP?
>>337569638
You are missing the point tho senpai. People like to show off in-game.
>>337569675
>skins aren't different from high quality clothes
I'm fucking done.
/v/ has been taken over by reddit
>>337569549
>selling skins is perfectly fine
>selling items that do nothing is fine
>creating a system that allows players to gamble real money on a "chance" at getting something that does nothing is fine
t. EA executive
>>337569513
>how are the two exactly the same?
Because you don't need to pay for either.
All the post-purchase rationalization in this thread
>>337569753
>pointing out facts is 'supremacy'
The only way you can have a discussion is with strawmen, huh?
Hell, the person you were originally tossing you retarded logic at >>337568278 was basically arguing that Jews were superior.
Why are you butthurt over that?
>TFW only paid 50 cents just to have a premium account
>>337569738
Seriously its fucking hilarious how fucking sleazy and dishonest the video is. It's almost ironic, really.
>>337569778
i see
but why show off a knife in game when you could buy a decent sized real knife collection for the same price? and have it not depend on playing an specific game on the personal computer
>>337569834
i've never even played csgo. i just think it's hilarious when some 12 year old thinks they discovered some massive conspiracy when they finally learn what capitalism is.
>>337569769
The later option is more fun.
>>337569656
>>337569731
I never bought skins in CSGO / TF2 neither am I a Valve fanboy. The video just screams "I'm better than everyone else, you're all just sheep".
>>337569675
Its fine when its something that isn't the main focus of development but Valve games get more cosmetic updates than actual content updates
>>337569929
filtered
>>337569929
Stop responding to me shitskin.
>>337569717
try again retard
Do you really think a majority of the people who buy fancy cars and remodel their house give a shit how they function? Nope. They just think it looks cool.
>>337569817
>allowing people to spend their money on what they want is fine
Yeah, it is. If you want to go to the gas station on pay day and spend 100 dollars on scratch off's, thats you prerogative, and its pretty stupid to put the blame on anybody but you for doing it.
>>337569834
/v/ is filled with tf2 drones that have spent thousands of dollar on hats.
>>337565445
normal Darwinism explains to why it being predatory doesn't make >>337565243 right.
>>337569882
>was basically arguing that Jews were superior
Not really, he literally said was because there wasn't enough antisemistism to stop it. It was a typical /pol/fag argument.
>game company makes non pay to win system that basically just screws over idiots who think they can buy there way to the top or to popularity.
>/v/ hates it
>>337564018
Your parents wasted some semen and an egg on you and didn't do the right thing to clean up their mess (an abortion)
I bet the most assblasted are exactly the ones who spent hundreds on fucking keys.
>playing CS since forever
>cosmetics introduced
>okay
>moving on
Call me a Valvedrone all you want but here's how i look at it. Its optional cosmetics, it doesnt affect gameplay, it doesnt give any unfair edge to any player, it only exists to show off to people. No streamer, no pro player not even Valve is forcing skins down your throat, you can just be someone who plays the game and thats it, people throw their shit for no reason, if you dont like to buy skins, then fucking dont.
>>337564018
>valve introduces microtransactions to make you look prettier and gain some more money
>retards gull over it, paying billions and billions of money for it
>players now majorly focus on microtransactions instead of the game
>HERUGH EURGH GUISE VALVE BLOWWWNTHEFUCKOUT HAHAHA
Everything is worth nothing.
You spend your entire life wanting useless trash and make no bonds or companions, then you DIE.
>>337570014
ive been playing since 2009 and only spent 1,50€ on hat because i thought it would "support" the TF2 team
1 year later they made the game free to play
>>337570105
yeah and it's more profitable than making actually fun video games for me to play
>>337569769
>Yet they don't have to gamble to get it.
There's nothing wrong with gambling. Gambling is only an issue when the gambler has an gambling addiction
>>337569990
Forgot I had a name.
Oh well at least I wasn't pretending to be several people.
>>337569991
Go back to /pol/ please.
>>337569798
Thats not what i'am talking about.
You can buy "high quality clothes" For less than hundreds of dollars, but yet people buy them to be "cooler" in eyes of other people.
I've known many negros/moroccans who were buying those shoes that are worth 500 euro just to be able to fit in and "Be cool" while you can get better quality shoes from different brand for 100 euro...
I don't care about TF2/CSGO/Dota skins personally. Used to idle and trade TF2 shit, got a lot of free games out of it. Bought a couple cheap Dota sets by selling badge cards from previously mentioned free games.
>>337570102
t. valvedrone
Back when TF2 introduced trading and keys and shit it baffled me as to why people would spend cold hard cash on cosmetics, VIDEO GAME cosmetics even. I used to do TF2 trading when it was first introduced for a while, but never spent a cent on it.
Are these people rich? How do they earn their money? How could you willingly spend real money on virtual goods that give no benefits? Are they that vain? I really wanna know, babby related.
>>337570105
BUT GABEN IS AN EVIL KIKE WHOS EXPLOITING THE STUPID SHEEEEEEEEP!!!! REEEEEEEEEEE
Isn't Mr. Newell libertarian? This whole skins scheme looks like a libertarian thing to do to me.
>>337570202
> How do they earn their money? How could you willingly spend real money on virtual goods that give no benefits? Are they that vain?
It's called being white.
>people pretend like being rich is evil/wrong
lmfao
enjoy being poor while I live in 100million mansion with endless trap sissibois sucking my dick
YOU DIE because you're poorfag loser.
>>337570186
premium clothes will always be better than cheap shit, you also don't have to gamble for it and it has more uses than a FUCKING SKIN
>>337569549
>>337569632
they should use requiem for a dream or the matrix them
it's so scarry !
>>337570202
Assuming you make over a certain amount of money in income, it makes sense.
Time is money. If you make 70 dollars an hour at your job, and buying an item on tf2 would save you say 5 hours of unlocking it, then unless the item is several hundred dollars you might as well buy it.
Its the same reason that changing your own oil is pointless.
>>337570202
Even neets will buy that shit with gubbment money. When you live in the first world, and are happy to live in a mundane, small apartment with minimal food, you can spent quite a lot on vidya/cosmetics.
a f-friend told me
>>337570172
I too am disappointed by the lack of games from Valve, then again no games is better than shit games so i just prefer to waitfor HL3
>>337564018
This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever seen.
Anyone who has spent money on CSGO should kill themselves.
>>337570186
high quality clothes are at least made from material that can be reused. and can be used for other things. skins can be used outside of the games, market, or dumb gambling shit.
>>337570363
>premium clothes will always be better than cheap shit
What a great goy.
>>337564018
>tfw Valve openly stated that they're no longer a video game company but a service now
I used to think back in 2005 that Valve saved PC gaming.
>>337570495
You don't have any outdoor hobbies, do you, /pol/?
>>337570043
That's because they shouldn't hold any power in a host country since they would favor their own. This isn't Anti-Semitic, or Anti-White, it has already been proven that people will prefer and help their own, whether you are black, white or a Hispanic in Japan, the Japanese will favor their own. It's funny how people always bitch about it towards whites but not any other race. And no one is denying the superiority of Ashkenazi Jews when it comes to intelligence, they are smarter, simple as that, same goes for East Asians. The problem stems from their ideology and superiority complex that could hurt other races.
Learn to read next time you fat white guilt fucknut.
>>337564018
>hurr durr spending money on textures is dumb!
Pot Kettle etc.
if you've ever bought a video game that's exactly what you've done: spent money on textures, literally on something that's not tangible in the slightest. Really stupid fucking video
>>337568858
He said it was a brilliant video and that the message was true. But I'm not sure if that's genuine when he just skipped half of it.
>people who fall for the gachapon system
if they were born 5 decades ago they'd probably be addicted to gambling.
>>337565243
Pretty much this, it's the same like the Gambling industry when it comes to TF2 Crates.
Look up the term Skinner Box to understand what I am talking about.
>TF2 was the most unique, prettiest and comfy shooter ever made for PC
>Valve threw that whole atheistic under a fucking bus in the search on how to make the easiest buck possible
How can anyone defend this company again?
>>337570589
>And no one is denying the superiority of Ashkenazi Jews when it comes to intelligence, they are smarter, simple as that
Of course we are smarter... I mean they, they are smarter than us dumb goys.
>>337570202
According to statistics these people are a very small minority but spend a lot of money on that system. I believe there was a good article written about this, this was taken from mobile game statistics where the majority of the games are just F2PW games.
>all these triggered CSbabbies
Crowb does it again.
>>337570703
The game is pretty much the same as it was before. Hats don't really mess with the silhouettes or the overall color palette.
>>337569084
This image is beyond unrealistic, bloodborne is an ok game but not enough of a reason to buy a ps4 also sales shoudn't matter for CONSUMERS so whoever roots for a particular brand to sell more specially one like sony that rips you off constantly should be locked in a gas chamber.
>>337565012
That reaction is just too fucking good.
>>337570715
I don't know if you are trying to be sarcastic or just a dumb shitposter, it's proven that Jews 500 years ago selectively bred for intelligence with the Rabbis. The Catholic Church actually did the opposite and would cut the dicks of their most intellectual person.
>>337570629
>comparing a skin to a full blown game
if only i had that picture of char to post.
>>337570841
they do mess with the silhouettes and SPECIALLY the color palette
>>337564018
I have never ever bought a key or crate nor have I ever traded for open or opened one and I intend to keep it that way, the whole system is just off-putting to me.
>>337570703
Same could be said of any company that has been around long enough. Goals of most companies and corporations has always been profit.
>>337570202
Most of the money I spent was MINE, others were Valve Gift Cards given to me as christmas/other holiday gifts.
>>337570105
I don't want a game designed from the ground up to optionally drain my blood for all I'm worth. Your passivity has moved once-native features of games into optional content locked behind pay walls and I fucking hate you.
Am I the only one who freaked out out when valve introduced skins to counter strike ?
I remember there was literally no apparent reaction on the internet.
>>337569496
Lewd
>>337570841
I don't remember Bright Hot Pink or Neon Green being part of TF2's color palette at all so no you are wrong at least there
>>337570841
>. Hats don't really mess with the silhouettes or the overall color palette.
did you even play tf2 recently?
>>337569620
>People buy things based off aesthetic alone all the damn time.
Clothes and fashion are respectable. Virtual knives aren't, autist.
>>337570887
Let me guess, you are voting for Trump right? It would explain the double-digit IQ and intense delusions.
>>337564018
Pretty good because i make money with it.
Valve only makes prices for keys, and that's it. Everything else, from the 0.03 throwaway skin to the 1k+ Bayonet skin is what people in the community pay for it.
>>337570715
Yes they are, you dumb goys let them fuck you in the ass.
http://www.heretical.com/oliver/js07.html
>>337570912
>they do mess with the silhouettes and SPECIALLY the color palette
Not really, the whole point of hats is just to affect the overall silhouette as little as possible.
You would know this if you actually played the game.
>>337570938
>I remember there was literally no apparent reaction on the internet.
CS:GO wasn't that popular at the time.
And they didn't affected the game itself, why should anyone care?
>>337571125
Ah, so a shitposter then. Instead of countering my arguments, you start to scream nonsensical shit that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Typical drone faggot.
>>337569549
oh wow, I have seen that reaction image in a whilewho is she
>>337571268
So you are a Trump supporter. How does it feel knowing that he is gonna get crushed by Clinton and possibly turn Texas blue in the process?
>>337568407
>x expansion will save wow
They've been saying this since BC...
>>337569620
Thing is in video games, no they fucking don't. People wear the gaudiest, ugliest shit possible because it was rare and for no other reason then that.
>>337571185
>to affect the overall silhouette as little as possible
lmao
>>337571323
>trying to steer the topic this hard
pretty sad tbqh
Question,
Why isn't this stuff considered gambling under the law yet?
Because it clearly is.
>>337571323
I love it when shitposters get anally devastated. Keep shitposting shitposter.
>>337571442
I still immediately recognized it as an engineer from the thumbnail. Most of the features in the silouethe are in the middle and lower body.
That's the genius of Valve, they can put so many cosmetics on top of it and yet the design is so strong that's still instantly recognizable.
>>337571459
because actually money is not the pay out. same with gatchapon
>>337569738
>>337569895
Shills.
Why don't you actually attack the video's arguments instead of
>LE SPOOKY MUSIC
>PRETENTIOUS lol
>CRINGE xD
Oh wait, you can't.
>>337570936
>implying skins are gameplay paywalls.
You literally missed my point in my post.
Feels good man. Haven't had to use real money to buy shit on Steam in a while because of these retards.
>tfw you have to cook your sausages on the pan because you forgot to get coals/propane for the grill
>>337571558
>I
you mean in your hyper biased opinion.
>>337571445
What's the topic at hand my fellow stormfag?
thats why i prefer purchasing the skins i want in the steam market than begin to gamble with crates and keys
>>337571639
>biased opinion
You mean the opinion of someone who actually plays the damn game.
>>337570363
>premium clothes will always be better than cheap shit
So for you a €100 shoes are "cheap shit"? There is a point where beyond that you just pay for the name YET people actually pay for it, the same reason people pay for skins in games.
>>337571575
That wasn't the implication at all you fucking retard.
>>337569435
Half Life 1 and 2 are good videogames.
Portal 1 and 2 are good videogames.
TF2 is a good videogame.
of course neo-/v/ would defend skins
>>337571609
explain
>>337570373
Goddammit anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezO_Vmqhgg
>>337571869
There is literally nothing wrong about skins.
>>337569318
>Implying SonyCucs don't spend money on digital too
You're funny. I'll kill you last.
>>337571951
literally nothing right about them, either
>>337571825
Team Fortress is not their game tho pham.
Half-Life is the definition of mediocrity. Portal is OK.
>>337571712
>putting words in my mouth
way to go moron
>>337571643
you must be great at parties, resorting to this level of shit posting just because you lack a retort to an argument.
>>337565012
> Fundamental difference between gambling and opening crates
I'm too fucking stupid to see it. Can anyone spoonfeed me? I don't speak corporate
>>337568858
they know damn well what they are doing on the outset. they are simply willing to dumb a few bucks into a dopamine rush. they don't care, they know whats up, and they do it anyway. dont act like they are somehow oblivious to what they are spending their money on. everyone knows its pointless vanity, but some people just love pointless vanity. to each their own.
>>337571951
and there's literally nothing wrong with Hitler, right? idiot
>>337572152
gambling has a straight money payout of a specific value.
>>337568858
Nah, he definitely got the message of the video. Loud and clear.
But it contradicts his business model, so fuck bothering with that. Just say some vague shit about how you support it and it'll all go away. Unless there's a controversy with the streamer, nobody cares. Maybe 1% of his viewers will actually take the time to research the topic.
>>337571561
So I can make a slots machine that dispenses coupons that can be exchanged for money and I'm in the clear?
>>337572203
why are you false-flagging
>>337572092
I was comparing buying €100 shoes to buying €500 shoes
you said
>premium clothes will always be better than cheap shit
How else am I supposed to understand that?
>>337572256
You mean a fucking casino chip? no, because a skin isnt a casino chip. its a game item. it just so happens to have a market behind it.
>>337572140
I hope you realize how pointless your third-rate rhetoric is, although maybe that's too complicated for your degenerate brain to understand.
>>337572256
yeah its called pachinko.
>>337572203
>there's literally nothing wrong with Hitler
Who said there was anything wrong with Hitler Senpai ^^?
>>337564018
>played dota 2 for awhile
>find rare mustache for a character
>literally a mustache on an rts character
>can't even see it
>sell on market for hundreds of steam gift card dollars
>don't have to give steam money for games
"working system" mfw
>>337571624I've never cooked on a grill in my life
Is it really that much different?
>>337564018
stop shilling your videos crowbcat
>>337572484
none of the definitions of rhetoric apply here, simple anon. do you know what the word means?
>>337572651
Much more crispy, the texture is definitely different.
Also the taste is much better, IMO. Especially from a charcoal grill.
>>337572651
yes. there are different flavors you can only really get on a grill or smoker.
i love you fedora tippers who think people who buy into the skin market are somehow tricked and dont know that they are spending their money frivolously.
they know damn well. they don't care. the privileged and affluent have always thrown money around on stupid shit. this isn't new, they know its stupid but who cares. people like stupid shit. always have always will.
lol, yeah man, valve totally swindled them. sure, senpai, valve were the first to sell pointless shit to dumb people with extra cash. sure.
>BTFO
>is making money out of retards while non-retarded people enjoy the games because this doesn't affect gameplay
How is Valve BTFO?
>>337572706
>literally doesn't know what rhetoric means
Wait so you are an actual retard.
I am sorry, you are a very special and unique person, you should feel good about yourself. Now please go kill yourself.
>>337572832
Skins aren't "stupid shit."
>>337571945
i have never heard this in english
>>337572876
i had never once said anything persuasive in this thread at all. so no, you dont know what rhetoric means.
>>337572078
>team fortress 2 isn't a valve game because its a sequel to a mod made by someone else
ebin
>>337570043
>some dumb name faggot thinks they have the right to criticize someone
kill yourself you autistic moron
>>337572832
The ones that buy skins and the ones that call them sheep are the same, the difference is one has the money to satisfy his narcissism while the other try to make people agree with him to satisfy his.
>>337565012
This guy seems totally oblivious to the actual message of the video.
He isn't laughing because he knows he is fucking stupid for being the problem.
He's laughing at the fact that someone put his face together with some other peoples with the exact same reaction.
This is fucking baffling, how can you so unselfaware
>>337572078
HL1 is literally one of the greatest games of all time, please kill yourself
I've always questioned the true value of DLC/microtransactions in general and have come to the conclusion that no one fucking knows what it's worth. No one. At fucking all.
Where some games have microtransactions containing a costume that costs $1 another game would have one for $15 or even $30, or even locked away behind some box gambling bullshit. Valve gun skins and hats are no different here, and the fact that people are more than willing to drop thousands to gamble for something that's truly worth fucking nothing is the reason why it will now always exist.
>people are buying things because they like them
shiggy diggy
>>337572152
It's gambling. That shill on the stage was straight up lying to make profiting like that off of cases seem harmless and ethical.
>>337573916
>>things
What things?
>>337566592
>not spending 15 euros more and getting a falchion knife crimson web
oy vey gimme your monay
>>337564018
But why does the video have to be in this format?
Why put Halloween themed music, followed by echoed, unknown voices, and a bunch of negative and exaggerated aspects of the topic?
Why doesn't he sit down and collect proper research on each angle of the topic, and then present it?
Is it because he knew it wouldn't grab any attention from society? Would it have been too boring?
Are we that fucking pathetic now?
These kind of videos are what reddit would be fawning over.
It's almost as bad as the /pol/ refugee video. Playing on people's emotions using music and biased clips is lazy.
>>337574715
stop
typing
like
this
>>337574715
I don't think you're familiar with propaganda, how it works, and why we use it.
>>337574747
Fuck
You
>>337574747
Would you like me to put it on one line for you, so your autism doesn't trigger?
Every 200 dollars that some retard spends on CS GO keys they make back five times over from donations from retards on Twitch on any given day. This is not news of any kind.
And taking quotes from famous speeches with dramatic music trying to make it look like this horrible practice, and people eating this shit up? That is military-grade autism you've got there.
Skins saved CS:GO, and whether you like it or not the game would be dead without them. I think that CS GO is a piece of shit and even I know that. The ONLY thing he got right in this entire video was that cosmetics ruined the artstyle of TF2, which fucking EVERYBODY KNOWS already.
crowbcat's videos are neat, i love that guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEnCz6goaB0
>>337564018
Honestly, the narrator sounds like a whinny bitch.
>>337571563
You just made some pretty decent arguments against the video yourself. Thanks.
>>337573880
If it's that persons hobby to play CS, why does it matter? People waste loads of money on their hobbies, how many games have you ever bought? Those people are casuals, they don't play a bunch of games, it's CS and maybe some AAA release, the money people here would waste buying other niche games they waste buying keys for crates. The same way you think they are stupid for gambling on crates the other normies think game enthusiasts are stupid for buying a bunch of niche games, and those same game enthusiasts think those normies are stupid for buying other vain products.
TL;DR Everyone wastes their money in a stupid way from the point of view of the others.
This video has literaly told me nothing I didn't know already
>white people
>>337574879
Then the video is no fucking better. Throwing it to the extreme opposite end by depicting valve as if it were Satan himself isn't going to solve the problem. But I guess that's what it takes for people to change their minds.
>>337573916
> Buying
They're renting skins for the game they're renting on the DRM platform they can be kicked out of at any time with no explanation given.
I don't really care much for crates but they should really just restrict that to adults only. I don't think kids should be getting into that kinda stuff, only teaches them bad habits anyway.
But putting a system like that in place is easier said than done really.
>>337569896
because in most situations, you cannot brag about it on the street
>>337564018
Entertainment has an incredible amount of value due to how many people it reaches.
>>337564773
reminder to use this on your tf/custom folder
http://www.teamfortress.tv/16179/no-hats-mod/?page=12#337
wether you like hats or not its an obvious FPS gain, although the biggest hit in FPS is unusual effects by far
>>337570520
valve is one of the most cancerous technology companies in the world, in 10 years we've gone from singleplayer games with tacked on multiplayer/multiplayer games to full on exploitative gambling platforms aimed at children and its entirely valve's fault for pushing video games as a service so much
people who defend valve for opening the floodgates on DLC and microtransactions by saying "but valve did it well, other companies doing it wrong doesn't make it bad" are useful idiots
valve are almost as transparently evil as google
>tfw blew 80 bucks on this bullshit
>stat trak, factory new, red skins, the works
>felt sick and sold it all
>only got half back
at least I still have some dignity the video just validates it
>>337575572
What is google doing? Genuinely interested, big companies give me the heebies.
>>337575274
think in american dude, think in american
>>337575680
good thinking brotha, you got out of it before it consumed you AND your hard earned cash
>>337575828
Literally collecting every piece of information about you to sell you things.
Hold on a minute. How come shit still legal? It's basically gambling so why the fuck big bad merican government doesn't shut all this shit down and put in in some place surrounded by a desert?
>>337576446
Because it's not gambling, there's no real world money you get out of it.
Protip: the people who are spending hundreds of dollars on crates who aren't backed by Twitch retards giving them money would probably waste all of their money some other way.
>>337576446
It's been posted before
The payout is not direct money so it's okay.
Same deal with yu gi oh cards
>>337564018
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Valve is doing. That's all on the players.
Also, fuck off false flagging Overwatch shill.
>>337576774
> Counter shilling for your valve overlords
Don't want all those precious hats to be useless once Overwatch kills TF2, right?
>>337576864
TF2 hats make me money which I use to buy games. Can Overwatch do that? Nope.
Blizzard only takes money.
I have bought a few keys and items in TF2 but what I will never understand why do people willingly pursue and wear SHITTY LOOKING COSMETICS JUST BECAUSE THEYRE RARE OR SOMETHING. I do not give a fuck if the item is rare or not I just look at it like okay I will pay 2 euros for this hat because I think it looks nice and I've played this free game for so many hundred hours anyway.
WHO IS THIS
>>337577029
> Being proud of being a literal jew
Get gassed faggot
You'll be a worthless neet once Overwatch absolutely annihilates TF2
Even Valve is worried, which is why they're suddenly updating TF2 after years of hats and lacluster community maps updates
>>337567832
Nice 2006 b8, memefag.
So what is this video supposed to show? People "waste" their money on virtual skins? Does it do anything negative to anyone?maybe people actually ADDICTED to opening crates but this video didn't show one.
I guess Valve did mess up the TF2 artstyle, but other than that, so what?
>>337577135
some twitch whore
>literal goddess
kek get financially cucked
>>337577260
Hey, at least TF2 has a community since Valve actually acknowledges it and allows it to help with their games. Unlike Blizzard, who sues and bullies anybody who dares try and do anything with their games. Cheaters in Overwatch get permabanned on the first offense, there's no custom servers or mods, no chance for a growing community.
That 9.7 million player bullshit is such nonsense. I ended up with the same people every time, there's no way there was that many people playing.
I should be mad, but not really. I stopped playing online games a long time ago. Valve is basically smart, they know how to make money. The only part that makes me mad is that they stopped making games, but - I haven't had a real fun with a Valve game since the early 00s, so I'm not really mad. Don't ever care about hl3 ever since the hl2 "trilogy". Talking about their games, not the time. I'm not that old, I'm talking about the fact I haven't got a real fun with valve games since cs 1.6. Basically from Source onwards, not my thing. You can hate me all you want, but I was never a fan of Source. Honestly I don't even want hl3 to happen, but sadly - it will happen. Along with advertising something new from Valve.
>>337564018
>Valve BTFO
>because people spend millions on their virtual clothes
OK?
>>337577539
Yeah such a great community I love it when the community spends the entire game at spawn showing off their brand new taunts and doing fucking nothing all game.
The game was poisoned by cosmetics and retarded unlocks or those pr0 1337 orange gun demos and soldiers jumping around doing nothing. I'm glad Overwatch will never be contaminated by that garbage.
Instead of trying to radically change a class like the demoknight they can simply add another one.
>>337577260
enjoy playing your 20 tick travesti with skill-less 1 button ultis /soldier 67
as clockwork said, it fails at both being a FPS and being a MOBA
>>337576509
>>337576596
>it's just stupid loophole
I hate this planet.
It's pretty much Kootras fault.
>>337577539
>TF2 community
"Hey, I made a gamemode where you can play Wario-ware type games on a TF2 server! Also some new surf maps, rocket jumping maps, and community plugins like WC3!"
Valve: "Whoa, that's cool! You can host that on your own server."
>Blizzard community
"Hey Blizzard, your games are total fucking trash and irreversibly tainted for the rest of time, so we're going to take all of your source code and run our own server where people can play the game for free."
Blizzard: "Uh, I don't think we want you doing that, our game is still for sale and we can't have like 100,000 people playing the game for free, plus you don't actually own any of the assets."
Blizzard Community: "AHHH, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES YOU RUINED WOW AND NOW YOUR RUINING MY FUN WAAAAH!"
>>337578064
>I hate this planet
OH NOOOOOOO! NOOOOOO! COMPANIES USE LOOPHOLES TO MAKE MONEY! WOOOOOW I HATE THIS PLANET!
-t. millennial who has no fucking idea how the world works and should probably off himself
>>337564018
its literally fucking gambling and borderline illegal
fuck valve kikes
>>337578003
> Borderline party shooter
> M-M-MUH COMPETITIVE! MUH TICKRATE MUTAFUCKA
Enjoy being a bitter little manchild incapable of enjoying anything outside your comfort zone.
>>337569435
>They have been and still are good, however, with earning dollars and making clever business decisions. A good Quake mod? Hire creators. Well-balanced Half-Life mod? Hired. Blizzard is shitting on its cool W3 mod? Fuck it, we will hire this designer. Their best games are not theirs per se.
What Valve did is they realized how easy it is to let others do most of the work while you work as little as possible.
You can see this in for example
>create games based on popular mods they can resell or profit from
>make the community create cosmetics you resell while the creators gets a pittance
>hire talented people do develop games, write, etc. for you, do as little work yourself as possible
>make people pay to "support" the game or mod creators with money but where almost all money goes to valve, see dota 2 for example with the compendiums, premium mods, etc
Smart people have been aware of Valve being lazy jews for some time now.
>>337578345
>playing a shitty casual fps with virtually no longevity or content
>paying $60 for it
>calling someone else a jew
literally end it senpai
>>337578283
t. Corporate cocksucker. I love taxes!!
>>337564018
my serious question is, so what?
so what if people like this? one less sucker for the world to worry about isn't it?
it's way for valve to make money and the market likes it.
>>337578789
>my serious question is, so what?
The whole point of the video is to be an eye opener.
Because of this business model is really that successful, the next generation of games are going to follow it. Developer focus goes into creating a market for microtransactions, instead of the actual game itself, which was why the video touched on the current state of TF2.
>>337579080
It's not doing a very good job at being an eye opener if it relies on shock value and scary music.
I can't really feel bad or care.
If people enjoy wasting money on skins let them do it.
I stopped opening chests and treasures once my 5th one wasn't even worth 40 cents. Treasures are the same shit, unless you get an Ultra rare set you won't even make a buck 50. I rather put $100 into my wallet once a month and buy the cosmetics I like.
I buy expensive skins with my own hard earned money.
How does that make you feel? No amount of horror music will spark your cyberpunk war you dream so dearly much,
It only makes you look like a poor, paranoid dick sucking meek.
>>337578283
I understand being pragmatic, but mocking people for being disgusted by obvious scams ?
You're either some jaded "underachiever" with delusions of superiority over people that fall for the gambling meme or you're a really hardcore corporate cuck.
>PEOPLE ARE EGOIST BECAUSE THEY BUY SKIN
>IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD REPENT THE END IS NIGH
What the fuck dude ahahahah holy shit.
>>337578003
I agree with the 20 tick rate server crap is stupid, but I honestly don't play games to be overly competitive. I play games too have fun with my friends who play them. Tick rate isn't really noticeable unless you need per pixel accurate, and considering most of the characters in this game have massive hitboxes, and only 2 characters in the game require pinpoint accuracy to play, both of which I suck at playing, I don't care that it has a lower tickrate.
If you don't like it just don't play it.
>>337579794
the video just point's out the blatant decadence in this microcosm of life. The world is much bigger than this but still it's relevant to us gamers.
>I don't have enough money with my autismbux to buy skins so nobody should
non normies get out REEEEE
>>337579080
So games are becoming more like smartphone game's. Great.
Thanks for the push, m8 ;_;
Open the golden gates St. Pedro I'm coming home
>>337579949
I think you are overanalysing something very fucking stupid because you have
A) Way too much time in your hands.
&
B) A fucking problem with your head.
>>337580089
t. camwhore
>>337566307
where is that from? is it part of a longer movie, documentary?
>>337579080
the cellphone industry has started that trend of microtransactions. so the problem is if the WHOLE PC gaming industry shifts to that model.
It's a problem for TF2 and CS:GO, sure, but that's what their economy is working with right now. unless the streamers or people paying for this actually realize the banality of paying 2USD for this, it won't make a dent.
I agree with
>>337579269. its their money.
it's a well-made vid. but it's not perfect. the narcissism wass kinda weird if you ask me. the focus should've been more on that "sacrificing gameplay for shekels" argument.
>>337580184
t.failled art student who now make ''thought provocative'' video on youtube about fucking video because he doesn't have neither the brain or talent to choose a more pressing subject like global politic.
>>337564018
> Saying Narcissus shrivels and dies instead of drowns in his reflection.
IT'S SHIT. 0/10
>>337567272
>>337567272
Are people legitimately surprised by this shit?
THe prior generations seemed to make the mistake of having children they had no business having just as much as the newer generation
Inviting unwelcome presences into their lives, then neglecting them. And acting surprised when they refuse to allow themselves to be further neglected and focus on themselves is just fucking stupid.
It's literally nation-wide child neglect, from humble beginnings of occasionally ignoring your kid who you don't want to make time for, or interact with.
There is nothing you can do about it.
Oh no wait, there is one thing you could do about it.
Refuse to buy the product, or but wait, we all know you're not going to simply walk away arent you?
No. No you WILL buy something you KNOW doesn't suit your taste. And you'll come here tell everyone about how bad that thing is.
>>337564018
>that narcissus part
damn just fuck my life
>>337580605
YOU'RE EVIL ANON
THAT TWO DOLLARD SKIN COULDVE FEED A WHOLE AFRICAN TOWN FOR A YEAR
>>337579976
not all games anon. a majority PC games that sell the complete product and play well. just go to gog.com and steam.
the problem will arise if all PC games become this. so far it's only FPS' and MMOs, which I don't play. the video doesn't show a trend for those other games.
>>337580690
oh hi valve
>>337580698
>>337579976
>They think they have good taste
>all these fucking retards who fail to see the point
fucking mouth breathing troglodytes
>>337580741
Hello liberal millennial.
Keep up the good fight against oppression in video games and legos.
>>337580775
>pointing out places where you can get games with no microtransactions
>taste
>??????
>>337568936
yeah man, i feel like shit for buying dota shit now
>>337580514
Agreed. I think the problem arises from the fact that people don't think very well in long term, and do it on a selfish act, or some sort of social pressure.
who actually spends money on these f2p games?
i thought it was just retards.
>>337580868
>buy my keys
no
>>337565012
only watches 1 or so minutes.
>this is a great video..lol .. .
>>337581163
Okay then don't buy them.
you really don't have too anyway
Where's the fucking problem now?
>>337581139
only retards buy textures anonand i don't know why
>>337581139
>>337581256
Thanks for funding my games though.
>>337573112
>I'm not an idiot, I'm full blown retard
OK retard.
>>337581237
gees anon don't be mad its just a texture:^)
>>337581040
>>337581040
I literally set out in life to just be left the fuck alone.
It turns out I accidentally fell into a romance from my best friend's kid sister 3 years in the making.
I literally, unintentionally became part of a Netorare relationship, she would come home from dates with dudes for 3 years and imagine me being one of them.
I wanted nothing to do with "love" and "matchmaking" I literally wanted to find a hole somewhere in the corner of the US and go there and be left alone.
I'm now 9 years into a relationship and a father of one.
And I speak from experience when I say I'm one of those narccisist fucks, my parents never gave a damn about me, and the only attention I was given was at the end of a closed fist, a chair leg, belt or a cuff to the ear.
It's a bitch and a half to care about someone else when nobody gave a fuck about you when it mattered.
So I'm not surprised my generation, the ones proceeding me are all becoming narcissist as fuck, it's a oroborosian circle and someone has to make a conscious effort to break the fucking chain..
This is only but one of these likely reasons for this mass of Narcissism.
As much as I agree that buying cosmetics in a video game is really autistic, this is nothing new.
When I still played Maple Story, like 10 years ago or whatever, there were plently of autistic people buying shit in this game even though it doesn't enhance your gaming experience in any meaningful way.
Just buy a goddamn game with that money instead of throwing it at extra potions or fucking knife skins. Steam is filled to the brim with real games.
VALVE DRONES IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>337564018
>tfw that guy that spent thousands on tf2 and then VAC banned himself "on purpose"
>>337581409
This is why you get bullied anon.
Your come back are not witty, they are cringe as fuck.
>tfw i never give a single fuck about chests in tf2
>i have SHITLOAD of first wave mann co chests
>just checked on market whats the prize of chest no. 1
LOOK AT ALL THESE USELESS STEAM MONEY
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>337581680
calm down anon how many money did you spend in a texture knife anon ? tell us ~
>>337581464
Another example would be.
A working class couple, you have children you can't easily provide for, so you have to make a dedicated considerable effort to provide for them.
Thereby neglecting them the attention, and connection they may need. You're not really being abusive willingly.
You just made a stupid fucking choice, and now depending on their own intelligence, and development. They'll dedicate more of themselves to the concept of The Self in order to make up for what you couldn't give them.
And someone out of spite from bumping into this person may also start doing the same. Because, why the fuck not?
This will always be true in regards to any game with cosmetics.
>>337581464
Not even sure how to respond.
Thanks for sharing, though.
How is this a surprise?
This is how they make their money, this is how they play idiots, and yes there are more ways people get played in their lives, but you shouldn't worry about it goyim.
>>337579574
I can't criticise you for that since I've spent money on a gaming machine.
Thankfully, spending money on non-essential luxury goods isn't the point of OP's video, which instead showcases a few trends in contemporary society/video game industry. This weird thematic mixup isn't its strongest side but it gets the point across.
>>337581791
Probably worth one of your autismbux check but I don't care because I make that money in a day and a half.
>>337581957
>spending money on non-essential luxury goods isn't the point of OP's video
It's entirely the point and it's trying to be pseudo intellectual by blowing something irrelevant out of proportion.
>showcases a few trends in contemporary society/video game industry
There is nothing wrong with microtransaction. A server doesn't host itself.
>This weird thematic mixup isn't its strongest side but it gets the point across.
Didn't get any point across since it's the first thing that made me cringe and reply.
>people buy a $2.5 key from which's money goes to Valve
>They usually sell the item in the market for even more money, a portion if the sell goes to valve
>and the rest has to be spent in the store, where money also goes to valve
It surprises that something like this is allowed.
>>337578283
Yeah, because every single anti gambling law was passed in the last ten years.
>>337567215
>$337 million per plane
Uh flyaway unit costs pit it at 150m. Is this a Pierre Sprey article quote, because that's what it feels like.
Pic related, units are cheaper in full production.
>>337582324
>muh fraud! muh scam!
Is this really your whole argument in this thread?
>>337580302
t. le child in africa
>>337581464
>It turns out I accidentally fell into a romance from my best friend's kid sister 3 years in the making.
what? explain further
>>337582347
>He think he's on a crusade against EVIL Valve who enslave gambling addict
HAHAHAH, HOLY SHIT, HERE, HAVE THE SWORD OF TRUTH YOU DELUTIONAL KEK GO FIGHT THE DRAGON IN IT'S LAIR AHAHAHAHAH
>>337580868
>le child in africa maymay
>>337582383
>Uh flyaway unit costs pit it at 150m.
Scratch that, even the F-35C (the most expensive version) is only at 116M. That's dirt fucking cheap for a jet.
>>337582532
>>337582643
NOT JUST A CHILD
HIS WHOLE VILLAGE YOU COULD'VE FEED WITH ALL THAT MONEY
Serious questiontell me the truth anon how much money did you spend on a game anon ?
Why is Valve only now catching shit for this when Blizzard has been doing it for over a decade with randomized drops in WoW?
>>337582801
seeing how a brand new triple A title is AT LEAST 50$ I would say nobody complaining here has a right to.
>>337582558
Where did that come from, retard? You said that millennials were anti gambling. It wasn't my generation that made gambling illegal, it was your fucking grandparents (if you're even old enough to not be a millennial, which I doubt).
>>337582852
Fuck off retard.
>>337564018
Why are all those people super excited at the beginning of the video?
>>337566076
WE SMART
>>337582943
They won knives in CS go
>>337582939
>gambling is illegal
In jesus land maybe.
Burgerclapper makes me laugh so much when they think the rest of the world is retarded like them.
>>337582943
they're getting items in games
>>337568183
>girls are just pretending cuz my bias
Lol
Why don't guns look like this in real life?
I need to have gun that matches my European handbag for when I finally snap and go on spree.
>>337582238
While the video does touch the vanity of young people, it arguably pays more attention to the decline in video game design.
>There is nothing wrong with microtransaction. A server doesn't host itself.
I don't know when you started playing video games but back in the day players themselves hosted community servers, provided they were given appropriate tools or at least not actively discouraged. The majority of games nowadays rely on P2P hosting - a massive regress as far as gaming quality goes.
Furthermore, as others have stated, that kind of model can be contagious and convince other developers to pursue more lucrative avenues (producing superficial baubles instead of actual content).
>Didn't get any point across since it's the first thing that made me cringe and reply.
Could it be because you didn't understand the point it was trying to make?
>>337582987
WE LOYAL
>people pay money for something they want
wow what a concept!
whats the problem again? its digital? so fuckin what? it makes people happy and they want it let them have it theres nothing wrong here
>there are people in this thread that play tf2 and cs go actively
They're objectively shit games even ignoring the endless pimp my character bullshit
I wish you faggots would stop sucking valve dick. They made a couple solid games at the right time and have been shit ever since. I use steam exclusively too, but it's not a fucking useful piece of software and valve will try to jew you anyway they can. Everybody already forgot paid mods? They're coming back.
>>337582546
>>337582546
Apparently, the day I met what would later become my best friend, and then the saltiest bastard I've ever known.
Was the day I also met the broad I'd eventually have a kid with.
It was a three way split between her, and her 2 other sisters.
One ended up murdered in a cold case, they found her bones out in a fucking field.
Another is a straight up fucking bedroom semen demon.
And the other was a trained classical vocalist.
I fell out of favor with my buddy, and then for some reason he just randomly showed up in my late teens.
From like 17-to-21 this broad dated guys, and literally kept trying to compare them to me, and each one fucking fell short. Horribly, like, her fucking parents failed unilaterally in all the basic tenents you should teach a growing child.
And eventually on my 21st birthday, she watched me get jumped by a bunch of niggers in the hood while visiting family, and the worst I came out of it with was a torn T-shirt and apparently that was the lynch pin.
She fucking jumped by bones that same night I was staying over at her parents place.
Boned her in the shower, and then took her to pound town for 4 hours that night.
I fucked up and fell right into a spiders web. I found out about all this other shit YEARS later when she was talking about how shitty the local guys were, and at work and yammering on about how happy she was she ended up with me.
Every now and then I keep worrying about waking up like this poor bastard.
>>337564018
Holy shit best video on youtube hands down
>le spooky ominous music with background audio about people shriveling up and dying
it's a fucking video game skin
At one point I had 80 premium tf2 accounts and was idling 20 at a time everyday and made thousands and then people like me killed the economy.
>>337583240
WE WUZ KANGZ
I used to sell hats in tf2 as a fucking side job. I made $100 for weed for about 2 hours of steam messaging
>My dealers face when I told him I sell virtual secondhand hats over the internet
>>337583336
I need fucking multiplayer game to replace Csgo and Fortress Hat Simulator 2!
>>337583293
Didn't you hear the music? They were the bad guys!
>>337583548
overwatch
>>337564018
>there are people on /v/ who unironically pay for weapon skins
>>337583532
wut fucking waste of cash, i will never understand you druggies.
Since we all agree its gambling, how would you go about putting some laws on it?
I know all gambling advertisements where I live are required to put a help hotline visibly on the ad.
And Casinos obviously have means of keeping kids out, though I'm not sure Valve has any similar tools. Scariest part is that I'm sure they know they should.
>>337583668
GOD NO!!!
>>337581831
The irony being that in MGO you *do* get an advantage from buying certain skins that make you blend in better on a given map.
>>337583172
It's blown out of proportion and I'm not impressed. I truly think this is completely irrelevant. There is MUCH worst degeneracy in our world today thank buying skins, which I don't even consider degenerated in the first place.
And p2p hosting is dead for a reason. If nobody play, there's no online. This aint the 90's anymore. The server must be up and running and for probably half to a whole decade non stop. You need to have people who take care of that and pay for it. The good way of keeping the online alive is like this, with micro transaction.
Spare your replies, that's my idea and you will not change it.
>>337564018
>whining about cosmetic items
>WAAAAAAAAH IT SHOULD IMPACT GAMEPLAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I WANT SHIT TO BE P2W
>>337582801
Like $7 on tf2, bought a key and a fast learner when it was on sale
$5 on warframe for platinum back when you couldn't jew people for it, now I have $400 worth of plat
>>337564018
It doesn't make me feel anything other than finding Valve really smart. They were first to introduce trading like that, as in keys for boxes - and it caught on, who would expect that? And so they built on it, made more items, introduced Steam Market - every single minute something is sold, and even if its just people selling stuff on market they get a cut from it. They're making money, doing nothing at the moment. And they won't stop anytime soon.
>>337583764
>Since we all agree its gambling
I thouroufully disagree and this is why this thread is still in page one, because I still bump it, but you would know that if you weren't a pussy autistic furfag who don't read the thread and just autistically spam reaction face, here, have a (You)
>>337582801
>>337582801
I've spent a good bit on Warthunder, some on World of Tanks.
Other then that Not much else to be honest.
And War Thunder was just because I have a fucking aeronics boner
>Stall scissoring faggot germans in my DAKKA Bearcat
>HNNG.
>>337566724
10 years ago people were paying 2€ to get a random toy out of one of those gumball machine things.
>>337583678
How do buy things ironically?
>>337583863
>entirely missing the point of the video
>>337583962
We need laws to help this man
Please people, ideas.
>>337583689
>Implying $100 dollars is hard to get
>Implying I needed money that badly that I couldn't afford the literal cheapest drug ever
>>337584035
by buying them with a sense of irony idiot
Let's say you've made a F2P game.
Going by the retard's video the only way to monetize the game is by selling shit that affects gameplay, which leads to P2W bullshit.
Cosmetic items are -LITERALLY- the best way to monetize a game.
i made around 200$ from farming TF2 skins, still regreted i wasted 60$ of it to COD MW3
fuck that bullshit
>>337584020
those gumball machines didn't have a 1% chance to drop a 200$ toy though
>>337584095
There is so many other crusade you could put all that brain power on today yet you ALWAYS choose the most irrelevant fights /v/
There's no border to your lalaland
>>337564018
>How does it feel knowing you wasted your parent's hard earned money on nothing?
I didn't.
Sort of like watching this bs movie... I didn't.
>>337584095
gas chamber
>>337582434
It's not a fraud an it's not a scam, idiots know what they are getting and they do it every time.
The problem is allowence, freedom sSays we should Valve do this shit, but just because the can it doesn't mean they should do it.
They will anyways but that doesn't stop me from feeling disgust and pity for the idiots/slaves/addicts.
>>337584149
People who pay for cosmetic skins are retards tbqhwy.
>>337584085
Then tell me how would a dev get money from a free to play game.
nigga damn just download a case opening sim. shits like smoker's nicotine
>there are people that played tf2 after it went free to play
>there are people that actually played csgo at all
>>337584149
>Let's say you've made a F2P game.
tf2 wasn't f2p in the first place.
i feel fine because i've never paid for anything in the shop of any valve game, but have collected enough drops by playing these games normally to make back the cost of my purchase
>>337584108
This is the cheapest drug my brotha.
Why is this thread still active?
Who even cares about these games other than mouth breathers and streamers which aren't even real humans to begin with.
The video itself is redundant as literally anybody with any proper beginner level education cN understand that gambling digital or not is a fucking retarded thing and that the odds will always be against you. Not to mention this video giving me a very "the truth about iluminati aliens and new world order" conspiracy videos feel. I was expecting Alex Jones to appear in during the shit music.
Shit game
Shit reason to make a video
Shit thread
>>337568843
>>337565603
Not him but i won knife in giveaway
Sold it for 500$
These 500$ will for for my new 1070GTX
If you guys are so mad about crates, what about gacha? Japanese are bigger jews when its about gacha
>>337584239
i don't care about there being paid cosmetics. I worry about the millions of kids that waste their parents money on irregulated gambling, i think something should be done about this
>>337584313
It's literally people mad at streamers. They will defend their tantrum by saying they care about ethic (ring any bells?) while deep down they are just beta uprising.
>>337584236
And those retards are the ones that make those games possible.
Again, how is this bad?
>>337584269
>TF2 is the only F2P game with cosmetics in existence
Epic.
Also, even when it was P2P cosmetics weren't necessarily bad, as it's a way to keep paying the devs to continue development, and not abandon the game in 6 months.
See Overwatch.
>>337584313
Ahh, you're an idiot. That's cute.
>all this people getting triggered
Well done.
>>337584445
>wanting to be a commie
Why
Let the parents regulate their retarded kids you fucking idiot.
You're the same as a SJW that whine
>waaaaaaaaaaaah the government should regulate sexy and violent games waaaah
>>337584445
>I worry about the millions of kids that waste their parents money on irregulated gambling
No you don't. You couldn't give less of a fuck about it. It's just an occasion for you to attack something you don't like.
>>337584085
What was the point of the video then, if not judging people for what they personally deem valuable enough to spend money one, whilst having no impact on ourselves, as an alternative to a P2W system that ruins every competitive game that it's implemented in?
>well dude I made a profit from my investments!
>it's steambux
>>337584445
>millions of kids that waste their parents money on irregulated gambling
>it's the mom's credit card meme again
I bet you don't even know HOW to get a credit card on your own you underage fuck.
>now it all goes back in the box
>a crate is a type of box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwX3S7zRlTw
POTTERY
the gun system has always been really disgusting, i think people are starting to take notice because how high profile the game is. valve is creating a new generation of gambling addicts... through counterstrike
their accountability on anything is so low, valve always kind of gets away with whatever they want
>>337584556
and then one day you'll be the parent, and your autistic shut in kid will waste your paycheck on digital pictures
>>337584563
you got me
>>337584484
Enlighten me anime poster. What's the point to this video or thread? Please.
>>337584642
stop projecting so hard, it's blinding me
>>337584723
You're just as retarded if you can't stop your autistic kids from spending your money.
I'd be more worried about him not drinking the whole bleach bottle with parents like that.
>>337584723
Not mine, because I'm not a retarded americunt that gives my fucking credit card to my fucking kid.
And if he DOES get hold of it he'll get spanked like oblivion, something that gets you arrested in 'Murica.
>>337584556
Not him but
>we should just let companies get richer and richer
That's why Valve has a monopoly in PC gaiming, someday they are going to try a stupid shit like paid mods again and they'll be so big we won't be able to do shit about it.
>>337584471
>And those retards are the ones that make those games possible.
Those are the retards who make sure games like HL never happen again by propping up lucrative low-effort microtransaction models. Why make something good when you can generate orders of magnitude more money with something shit. lol.
>>337584313
It's such a shitty OP with a handful of vocal posters supporting it that I'd call shill, but it doesn't really mack sense. Competitors use the same system to make money.
>>337584818
>he doesn't know how to get a credit card
laughinwhores.jpg
>>337584940
>we should just let companies get richer and richer
You're right comrade! Those damned 1%! Their riches should be distributed evenly!
>mfw i don't even understand how any of these hats or steam markets work
>>337584739
>anime poster
Why should I? It doesn't matter what you think because you're an idiot. You call everything anime like an idiot who doesn't know that this is a chan board. Just keep living blind that's the point of the video.
Or call me edgy, we both know you don't care about the meaning of words after all.
>>337584871
>>337584920
either you were stupid kids (and still are) or you are wildly underestimating them
>>337584963
bitch getting a credit card is as easy as doing 1+1
>>337584601
>whilst having no impact on ourselves
Nothing exists in isolation. If people willingly shell out for crap how can you expect the market to have anything but crap?
>>337585105
(You)
>>337585013
>I said that
Kill yourself, corporate cuck.
>playing for digital cosmetic shit
>ever
>>337585096
This.I played TF2 and Overwatch both for the first time last week and I don't understand all these Steam badges.
>>337564018
>hats were originally meant to make players able to identify each other
holy shit
>>337584698
I think P2W systems are infinetely worse than that. Valve seems to be the only company that has come up with a F2P and microtransaction models that aren't cancerous (DOTA2 and CSGO).
Still enjoyed OP's video, even though I disagree with the premise. Going batshit over a in game drop is pretty embarrasing.
>>337585256
>y-y-y-you were just stupid
As I said, the MOMENT I saw that my kid used my CC without my permission that little fucker will know pain.
It seems most people defending Valve are doing so because they have no problem with the company selling keys to retards as a means of profit. That is a perfectly acceptable opinion for someone who doesn't care about Valve or their products.
If anyone who defends this model also cries somewhere else about HL3 or other shit Valve will never do because they hit the goldmine with these cash grab games; kill yourself.
>>337585532
>they have no problem with the company selling keys to retards as a means of profit. That is a perfectly acceptable opinion for someone who doesn't care about Valve or their products.
Actually it's a perfectly acceptable opinion for someone who doesn't care about retards.
As long as the game is played the same, ie no P2W, who literally cares
>>337585312
>If people willingly shell out for [a cosmetic based profit system that does not hurt the community] how can you expect the market to have anything but [a cosmetic based profit system that does not hurt the community]?
Yes. :^)
>>337585658
As I just said, as long as these kind of games and methods bring in more money than games like HL3 would, HL3 will never happen. That was the point in mentioning "care about Valve".
Retards are a non-factor.
>>337585678
You can't expect games like Half Life to be made when these models are so lucrative. It does screw over other people, sorry. This is why you should promote people only paying for things that are actually worthwhile. :)
>>337585532
HL3 wouldn't be profitable either way, normalfags don't like the series. If Valve ever learns to count to three it will been on a set of infected fingers.
so the crates are pretty much worthless right?
>>337585801
Competative games, especially F2P ones are always going to bring in more money than full priced $60 single player games. There was never a universe where HL3 would make more money than Counterstrike.
Retards are THE ONLY factor. Companies exploiting retards is fine until it starts to affect the game itself for everyone else (P2W)
>>337585850
If HL3 ever comes out it will be raped into something more acceptable to the masses, the same way Mirror's Edge was.
>>337572152
Gambling has a chance of you winning and getting a payout. The money you put into it is a "gamble" that could reward you with more money than you started with.
Valve crates and hats and knives don't give you shit except a virtual cosmetic and all the money you put into it goes into Valve's pocket, nowhere else. You don't win any money back* when you sell it on the market or make a trade exchange.
*Barring going outside the system and making an insecure money exchange with someone and then trading your unusual stat track knife-hat with someone.
A casino takes risks of losing money the same as you even if they are allowed to design the rules in favor of the house.
Valve always profits from each and every Market exchange no matter what and has no risk of loss. Their business isn't gambling, it's being a money-holding middleman who have implemented this hat-dropping key-selling skinner box to siphon the pennies you have in your Steam Wallet as well as suck more money out of your bank account.
>quit tf2 in 2011
>decide to sell all my stranges and cosmetics for some games on steam
>come back 2 years later
>using regular weapons and no hats
>still curbstomp
>players with australiums, hales own, and unusuals ragequit immediately after I kill them
>still don't own a single hat or strange today
feels good man
>>337572078
>Team Fortress is not their game tho pham.
The fuck are you talking about? Only the original Quake mod isn't theirs, they hired on the modders and released Classic, 2 was entirely developed in-house.
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