What's the point of slabs Ds3 if all they do is alienate you from 90 percent of the player base?
>>337522823
What's the point of playing the game in Ds2 if all it does is alienate you from 90 percent of the player base?
>>337522823
What?
>>337522823
I don't think that makes any sense.
>>337522823
What's the mater? Can't get a single slab per playthrouhg? Ever tried to get good?
>>337522823
90% of players end up with a +10 weapon retard
Is this about multiplayer matching based on weapon upgrade lvl? I was told about that butt I jever looked up a source
>>337523082
>>337522954
I think OP is talking about weapon memory.
>>337523082
>>337522954
The matchmaking system in ds3 ensures that if you ever use a slab on anything you will only ever be paired with people with maxed weapons. This effectively ruins invasions and co-op.
>>337523125
I got plenty of slabs. I keep my shit at +8/+4 because of weapon memory.
>>337523412
The weapon level thing is +/- 2 I'm pretty sure.
>90% of players never upgrade to at least +9
Pretty sure that's wrong.
>>337523412
Anon, its plus or minus two weapon levels when matchmaking.
>>337523778
Up until +9, then you're locked in with the slab fags.
>>337522823
seriously what the fuck
I went up against fuckers with memepoless that do as much damage as my maxed out greatsword while using only +6 greatsword what the fuck?
This is worst than soul memory.
Faggots will still defend it tho.
I know of a plan
If we all slab some weapon we'll all be paired together again
>>337524063
If you're somewhere around SL 80 I really doubt having a +10 weapon is going to limit your options much. The percentage of people who've used a slab only increases with SL from there.
Only if you're purposefully remained at a lower SL should you not use a slab.
Why are PVP faggots such bitches?
>>337523537
Since you can't play against slabers, isn't the ideal range +7/+3?
>>337524515
Nigger going high sl fucks you for invasions and co-op. I'm not going to use a slab and go high level only to be stuck in fight clubs for the rest of forever.
>>337523537
you fucking idiot you do realize at 8+ you get met with players that have +10 weapons right? you should've stayed at 6+ for fun invasions and now you fucked it up might as well go to 120SL now retard
enjoy havel estoc faggots and tryhard hornet ring parry
return the slab
>>337524795
Ideal range for people who don't want to deal with /dsg/ meta faggots and redditors/twitch niggers is 60-80 and +6 weapons or +4 boss weapons
otherwise go 120 and 10+ and deal with them
>>337524795
Not if you're using a boss weapon. Boss weapons are double normal weapons so if you go for an odd number they become outclassed pretty hard.
>>337522823
if i put a +10 in my storage box will it lower my weapon memory?
>>337524828
Then don't use a slab dipshit, problem solved.
>>337524985
no
forever tarnished
have fun
>>337524279
Soul memory doesn't have a cap that everyone competent will reach before even getting to NG+.
pigskin BITCH!
>>337525052
What if you destroy it?
>>337524932
+4 boss wep = +8 normal wep
Man, why can you only liwer your level in DeS?
>>337525126
nigga, what part of forever do you not understand?
it's like love
it's a part of you forever
once you level a weapon up and hit a new ranking, the game marks you as having achieved the capability to make a +2/4/6/8/10 weapon on that save file and adjusts your matchmaking as so
it's ass but that's how it is
Just turn off the "slabs = slabs only" rule, so people can fuck about with +8-+10 just fine. That'd honestly solve that issue.
Eat shit you twinks
Oh first it's the soul memory meme bullshit and now it's armor memory .
Stop posting bullshit you fucking memers, everyone knows that's fake.
>>337525310
Love isn't forever. It's fleeting.
>>337525310
he can still start a new char and amend his ways
shattered love memories stay with you until the grave
>>337525520
that';s why it's like weapon memory
you can get rid of it but it's still a part of you anon
now start a new character
>>337525445
>Armor
So you can't read?
>Everyone knows that's fake.
And yet, it's true...
Soul Memory was true and so is weapon memory.
>>337525152
thats just fine since most shitters run +10 always
>>337524279
It's not worse than soul memory, don't be fucking stupid.
>>337525126
If you ever used a slab, you are stuck with the slabfags whether you have the weapon or not. This is true of any upgrade level.
>>337522823
>I can't twink with a fully upgraded weapon!
>reeeeee!
Oh, fuck off.
Somebody please tell me how to make invasions fun.
I figured the shit out with DS2 finally but they once again changed all the shit that mixes up the invasion shit.
>Soul Level 100
>Built how I want with maxed weapons.
>Still somehow get matched with assholes who have to be Sou Level 120+
or
>Soul Level 40
>Level 5 weapon.
>Still invade fuckers that have full havel sets and great swords IN THE MOTHERFUCKING STARTING AREAS!
How the fuck do I gotta deal with Havel shit before the great wood?
>>337525836
go 99SL
gives you everything you could ever want and you normally meet with 110 and other 100 people since no one stops at 119 SL and you can go +10 weapons
SL40 is not fun at all its boring
>>337525836
>Havel shit
Hit them. There's no Poise in the game.
>>337525781
>>337525405
Woah woah, not talking about wanting to twink here. I'm genuinely asking what the point of having a slab at all is since slab matchmaking sticks you with only slabbers. You're better off just not upgrading fully.
>>337525836
>Still invade fuckers that have full havel sets and great swords IN THE MOTHERFUCKING STARTING AREAS!
You're just dealing with twinks. I've read stories from /dsg/ where people play the entire game at sl25 until hornet ring just to invade at undead settlement to fuck with people
>>337526085
I've done that. Pretty fun.
>>337526081
What makes you think the majority of players aren't going to use a slab at some point anyway? You realize this won't actually become a problem unless you faggots make it one.
>>337526081
So you want to twink.
>>337524828
I'm 78 with a +5 boss weapon and I get summoned for Nameless King all the time. Where are you getting this information?
But everyone gets a +10 pretty easily.
>Slabs
>>337526280
>>337526307
By that point in the game though you're stuck in very limited areas to do any online play. You're not going to invade anyone who's playing through the game.
>>337526286
Again, no. I want to invade and co-op people similar to my level and weapon level who are going through the game. I don't ever intend on using a slab. I'm criticising slabs for basically ruining characters.
>>337526807
>Again, no. I want to invade and co-op people similar to my level and weapon level who are going through the game
And that's exactly what happens when you upgrade your weapon with a slab, how crazy is that?
>>337526889
Matchmaking becomes much more limited. Good luck ever meeting someone on their first playthrough seeing them react to their first invasions, or ever invading in the catacombs/woods, or doing jack shit with any blue phantom/doggo covenant.
>>337522823
You're already locked to lategame players with an +8 weapon, a +10 won't change anything. It's not like all slabs are hidden or something, one maxed weapon is all that is needed to end up in the same pool as someone with 20 maxed weapons.
tl;dr: what the fuck are you even talking about
>>337525310
THEY SAY NOTHING LASTS FOREVER
THEN WHAT MAKES
THEN WHAT MAKES
LOVE THE EXCEPTION?
>>337527343Don't try to fight the feeling
Because the thought alone is killin' me right now
>>337525743
>stuck with the slabfags
So, stuck with pretty much everyone? I highly doubt people playing through the game normally are never going to use slabs.
>>337527290
Naw. +8 weapons invades catacombs and up effectively because you can go as far down as +6.
>>337527245
>Good luck ever meeting someone on their first playthrough seeing them react to their first invasions
No shit sherlock, first invasions happen within the first few hours. Play a low level character if you want to twink.
>or ever invading in the catacombs/woods
I still invade the Catacombs at +8 so I can't imagine +10 being much different.
>or doing jack shit with any blue phantom/doggo covenant.
Blues need fixed no matter what since they both rely on the pointless Way of the Blue, and the Watchdog covenant stops getting invasions long before +10 because it's an early-game covenant. Aldrich Faithful is the late game version. Play the game and you might learn a thing or two.
Why not just set up a password so you can start invading without restrictions?
>>337527851
>I can't imagine +10 being much different.
The only place I can invade at level 80/+10 effectively is The Archives. Every where else is a hit or miss.
>>337527851
I've played 100 hours in the game. I'm not clueless here. Also, low level pvp isn't twinking if you're similarly leveled with similarly upgraded weapons. Are you dense?
>Cat ring "Prevents fall damage"
>Not from "always lethal" fall damage
I can understand if I fall off a cliff, but come on. Let me hop down elevator shafts.
>>337522823
alienation is fundamental to existing as a human in this world. we are not alone, yet we are...
>>337529090
Elevator shafts are always bottomless pits, anon.
>>337529090
>he doesn't know you can survive any fall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHVyiplEMc
>>337526085
I have an SL1 darkwraith character that can invade undead burg and fight people who haven't even met Andre yet with a +5 lightning battle axe and a +5 ascended pyro flame
Havels gear is worthless in ds3 anyways, it's literally only 4% more mitigation than the knight starter set or something garbage like that. Wear what you think is fashion souls and never level equip load
>>337527660
SL negates that (and you're +6 after catacombs AND smouldering lake, not before or during).
>>337528127
Yeah but isn't wanting to invade new players when you are experienced with the game kinda shitty of you?
Like picking on a child?
>can't even fight in sl100 pvp
>I know, I should twink and grief lower level players trying to progress
Your kind are as bad as the ganksquads.
>>337529665
I mean like from the top of the elevator shortcut right before the Lothric/Lorian fight to the Slab spot. You can't survive that with the cat ring.
>>337530386
I keep my sl at 60.
>>337530397
I'm no tryhard backstabber. I like messing with people I invade, like acrivating traps in the catacombs with the obscuring ring on.
>>337530635
Fight clubs are boring anon. Just boring. I don't want my online experience to be exclusively duels.
>>337531020
You're supposed to send it back up then step off.
>>337525836
At lvl 40 you shouldn't go beyond +4 (+2 unique weapons) as the highest range is +6. +5 jumps you up to +8 range.
>>337530397
I pretend to be an NPC invader
No running, predictable movesets, lots of showy moves like the darkhand shield
It's pretty fun.. Sometimes you get matched with players who obviously haven't been invaded before, and it's fun to give them an interesting invasion experience
>>337523412
hmmmmmm
>>337531517
>I want to bully noobs
And there you go. He just admitted guilty of being a griefer. Thread's over.
>>337531547
I know what you're "supposed" to do, Anon. I'm saying I should be able to just jump down there with the cat ring, it's not a dead zone, just an exceptionally long fall.
>>337531862
>game with built in griefing systems
>stop bullying me it's not fair
>>337531862
>complains about greifing in a souls game
call the minecraft modz im being trolled!
>>337531758
A +8 can go down to +6. A +10 cannot.
Still much more pvp.
>>337532020
>>337532087
>samefagging to prove your point
So don't be mad when the game implements systems to combat twinking shitters who can't even fight people of their own sl range.
At this point you may as well have a ganksquad. You are a shitter.
>>337531862
>muh honorabu duels
If I wanted that I'd just play a fighting game. I invade to just kill people.
>>337532204
>>337531862
Neither of those are me, fag. I'm just not interested in doing all my pvp in the one goddamn flat spot behind Pontiff Sulyvahn with the rest of the maxed out honorfags.
>didn't make it so it goes off the weapons in your inventory instead of the highest upgraded weapon you've ever owned
Why is Miyazaki so fucking incompetent?
>>337532237
This. I like sneaking around the level and playing with the environment.
>>337527497
Yeah souls players on /v/ are just persnickety fucks.
>wah don't heal i'm trying fite you
>ugh why are there mutliple people in your world
>you didn't use the right emote when i invaded you i'm going to go hide lol
They should just make the top bracket 7-10, if you have chunks and can't get a slab you deserve to fail
I'm like sl72 with a +8 weapon, will I be fucked for co-op if I go to +10, or am I already screwed?
Who else heard the Super Smash Bros. trophy notification jingle when they saw the OP?
Prrrrrrrrinnnng!
>>337532524
>>337532237
Agreed. Ds3 has been a ton of fun invading and using mobs and the environment to fight gank squads.
what exactly is the problem with that?
be specific
>>337532575
It's already like that, you fucking retard.
>>337532591
If you go +10 you will only be able to interactive with people +8 or above. +8 will be fine anywhere after Pontiff. Stop leveling now and adjust your stats to optimum effeciency at Rosaria.
>>337532783
>>337532237
It's fun when you invade and the host starts shitting his pants so he starts accepting summoning signs to help him in his "scary" moment of being invaded.
Usually I just blend into the back ground and pick them off one by one.
>>337531862
Really, if I just wanted to grief people I would just use a raw ASS +2.
