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What went so horribly, desperately wrong?
They didn't include the cutest, not even in the first wave of DLC.
>>337452574
Nothing went wrong. It appealed to the tournament scene first. You were an afterall. Second in mind. You'll come back once all your waifus are added.
>>337452641
Kill yourself.
>inb4 Jurifags that probably suck ass at the genre anyway
>>337452740
Why?
Too similar to SF4, and with way less features
>>337452574
it should put on early acess first
nothing
OP is bad at fighting games went wrong
>>337452574
If the online wasn't so shitty it would be perfect.
You get dropped frames sometimes even on "perfect" connections.
>>337452574
no arcade mode, only one stage has the knock out of bounds thingy
>>337452641
She was too fraudulent in SF4, glad she's gone
>>337452574
SFV is dead after EVO, screen cap this.
>>337453195
How so?
>>337453119
It's still basically unplayable in Europe
I can have a lobby with someone in literally the same city and every 3 games or so it'll shit itself and give a 1 bar connection and it won't stop doing so until you quit the set and rejoin
It genuinely seems to just randomly decide you're lagging like fuck out of nowhere, location doesn't even seem to matter
>>337453206
>SFV
>dying
>ever
Until SFVI, it won't happen, buddy.
>>337453270
>OP being this bad and this mad
>>337453243
She was all about abusing her retarded +frames tatsus into retarded damage if you dared to press a button. Contender for one of the most braindead autopilot characters in the game.
They made this slightly less bad in Ultra it has to be said, but she's still stupid.
>>337453270
You okay Anon?
>>337452574
Still no ibuki that's why
why couldn't they just add fang, necalli, rmika, karin, and jihado to sf4?
>>337453358
Because nobody wants to play SF4 anymore
capcom pumped sf4 with content for so long, people expected sf5 to have the same amount
mechanically sf5 is a shit ton better than sf4, but people are upset that theres not a bunch of meme characters.
>>337453332
Light tatsu is 0 on block the rest are negative. EX is the only + and it requires a bar. Stop mashing your head on crouch tech like a mongoloid.
>>337453269
So much for all those online stress tests eh?
Killer Instinct PC on the other hand works flawlessly and is buttery smooth.
>>337452574
But it's a fuckton better than SFIV was at launch. It also looks a hell of a lot better. Seriously, I couldn't stand the way IV looked.
>>337453423
well that explains why sfv is dead since it's the same game
>>337453491
>being this ignorant
>>337453462
SFV is easily the best first version of any SF, and its not getting enough credit for that.
It's just not fun. That's literally it. The game has been watered down to a level even past SF4 which at least had artificial depth in it's rhythm-game tier execution requirements. SFV has nothing. Not a single goddamn bit of complexity. I sat for HOURS in 3s training mode learning how to charge buffer. It took me literal weeks of practice to be able to do TTH somewhat consistently. There's nothing like that in SFV. You can learn all the combos you need in an hour and past that it's just matchup expirience. The problem with that is that the top 5 in the game excel against all the others so dominantly because the game has been reduced to the bare minimum of what QUALIFIES as a fighting game. There's no reason to not play Chun, Nash, Ryu, or Karin because they all have insane damage output and excel in almost every area.
capcom hired tons of san fran sjws to work on it
sjws destroy everything they touch so, the fate of this game follows
Input delay and the lack of proximity normals is my major problem.
Fuck vsync
It's just not fun. At first I thought it could be me not too used to the new game or something like that but now I'm at 8000 LP and can confidently say the game is just boring especially compared to USF4. I think I finally understand what Tokido and Infiltration two undoubtedly best SFV players meant by "SFV is too simple".
>>337453569
Name these "SJWs"
>>337453554
>chun
>insane damage output
>fighting game is defined by its training mode grind elements
>>337452574
server issues
the game is great
>inb4 pasta or fraud eyez
>without story mode this game is worthless abloo bloo bloo
Why? So you casual fucks can do the campaign a few times and shelf it with >5 hours logged?
Go play mkx for story bullshit. sfv is for the competitive scene.
>its another Nubi thread
>>337453635
just look at the league of legends tier ban system for rqing
it's clear there are a ton of sjws at capcom now that have no idea how to cater to their audience
>>337453650
>being this ignorant
>>337453667
>snake eyez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A038Q70rNs
>>337453650
thats all fighting game autismos count as "skill" anymore in fighters. Notice how the most revered fighters all require years of lab work to play competently, because FGC cant derive pleasure unless they think they worked harder than the other guy at wasting their time in training mode pressing buttons.
>>337453650
One EX bar with Chun can lead to 300 damage and a mixup, how is that not insane when a full super combo does about 450-ish? Also it's not that you can't trainingboar like a faggot, it's just that there's no worthwhile goals to achieve.
>>337452574
small roster and it look pretty bad overall, the backgrounds looks like they used ps3 assets and have no composition at all. a fighting game can't afford to be ugly.
>>337453772
>most revered
Would be SFV actually. its like religion, shit only matters when people practice it.
Nobody cares about faggots jerking off to GG and VF in their dark corners.
>>337452574
Why is this a daily thread? Does /v/ recieve a fresh newfag every day, or is OP living in a groundhog day?
>>337453756
You're beyond retarded m8. If Capcom had SJWs, Aris wouldn't be aloud at any Pro Tour event and you wouldn't have had current Capcom employees defending him and telling Kotaku and ex-twitch employees to fuck off. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Please shut the fuck up and go back to 8gag to not play games.
>>337453772
This is completely true and it's so fucking shit. No one can make a fucking fundamental fighter anymore because people will bitch about it being boring. SF4 created a generation of people who think fighting games just rinsing bent shit in training mode and Marvel didn't help.
Seriously look at KoF14 and 13. They could have made them fundamentally focused like 98. They could have made anti airs actually do damage and limited combo options, but of course they didn't. Because then people can't go fucking crazy with offense constantly and fish for their big 70%+ combo which allows them to potentially win any game no matter how badly they got shit on.
It's fucking garbage. There is literally no fighting game for anyone to play now who doesn't like that shit. Fundamental games literally do not exist and it is laughable that people think SF4 was one.
>>337452748
I hate Sakura and the over saturation of sakura players towards the end of 4's life. Nothing against that anon specifically.
SFIV had far too much execution required.
SFV has too little execution required.
>>337454038
Execution is a nonfactor.
>>337452740
>Ignoring the hundreds of thousands of shotofags because you're probably one and waifus are your t-t-t-trigger.
>>337453946
since when did they let niggers post their subhuman gibberish on 4chan
shouldnt you be prepping for a KFC raid
>>337454009
I hardly ever met Sakura players here in yurop, at the end it was pretty much just people who got the game in one of the sales and had no idea what they were doing.
Thank fuck for that though, I hate the mirror.
>>337454097
Mobile posting.
Glad you don't have a valid rebuttal though.
>>337452574
I'm bad and win or lose I don't seem to have fun. They seemed to iron out the technical problems though.
>>337454092
Shotos are fine and always have been. The only people who bitch are scrubs. Shotos, with a few exceptions, are straight up honest gameplay with no gimmicks. You can't hate on that. They can be strong or weak, it doesn't matter. If you don't like shotos you don't like fighting games.
And before you go in with a hilarious
>t. ryu main
I played Guy in SF4 and Karin in SF5
>>337454186
>he admits to being a mobile poster
you really ARE a nigger
>>337454127
Her pressure loops with hurricane kick was the most annoying shit and it could all lead into ultra 2. I know I'm salty but fuck.
>>337454247
It's comfy
>>337452574
glorified jumping hard kick and projectile spaming and call it the deepest fighting game ever
>>337453328
can you post the full picture of that please i need it
>>337454275
As I said tatsu is even on block and it pushes her out, just block and take the throw. It does nothing.
>>337454324
Projectile spamming is *almost* the weakest it has ever been. The vast majority of characters can completely shit on it for virtually no effort.
The game is much worse off for it as well.
>>337454390
>just let me have this damage because my pressure is so incredibly braindead and obnoxious and trying to deal with it will probably get you ultra'd at no real risk to myself.
honest character
>>337454393
Yup, i dont even bother throwing fireballs as ryu.
Op is a casual fag
Just signed up for evo. With me luck
>>337453838
you mean off a CC punish or jump in? because that's pretty average damage
>>337454549
Neither.
>>337454487
It pushes her out, she can't keep the pressure up. This is the third time I'm going to tell you that light tatsu is even, since you don't seem to understand what that means I'm going to spell it out for you. You can hit buttons. Preferably fast buttons so worst case scenario you trade and it's back to neutral.
Sakura is relatively honest other than the fucking retarded corner resets, she just hits like a truck.
>>337454523
It's so fucking retarded, how did they ever think Nash's V-Trigger was okay?
>Oh he can throw fireballs and run away to his hearts content
>The moment I do though he is going to teleport behind me, hit me, do a full combo and potentially super me
>Even if he doesn't have that he can use his invincible ranbu super to travel almost fullscreen and punish me
>Even if I get in on him he can use his V-Reversal to get out and unless I start a throw BEFORE HE PRESSES V-REVERSAL I just have to let him go
Seriously how fucking incompetent can capcom be?
>>337454980
sup rookie
>>337455165
how ya doin shill
>>337455165
Explain what you're supposed to do.
Nash is at an advantage at range and he doesn't have to deal with pressure close range either because his V-Reversal allows him a literally free escape that a player can't prevent unless he throws before Nash even does it.
This is ignoring that in neutral outside of fireball range he still has better normals and framedata than most characters.
What do you do to consistently shut him down?
>>337455280
exploit the fact that he doesn't have an invincible reversal
use your v-reversal to get out of frametrap shenanigans
contest his dash rather than blocking
Even nash's v-trigger gets stuffed by a good meaty
>>337455165
are you seriously implying nash doesn't have a billion tools to beat fireballs
with every fireball you're either feeding him v meter or asking him to v trigger your ass for 400 damage
>>337455426
>exploit the fact that he doesn't have an invincible reversal
How do you exploit that when his V-trigger lets him escape anyway at less risk than an actual reversal?
That is meant to be his main weakness and yet it is completely invalidated by this, meaning he has literally none.
>>337455426
Sorry, I mean V-reversal.
>>337455426
>contest his dash rather than blocking
>contesting an 8f dash
playing footsies with nash is basically a coinflip
he either outpokes you if you try to check his dashes or he dashes in if you try to block him out
he's an incredibly annoying character to fight until you knock him on his ass
>>337455606
since most nash players want to get out ASAP they'll probably be mashing v-reversal (or trigger if they have full v-gauge)
keep an eye on his v-gauge bar in order to decide whether you meaty with a throw or an attack
>>337452574
They released Guile before releasing Urien.
>won't get to Aegis Reflector niggas til Augustprovided Capcom doesn't remove it because "muh story"
Feels bad man.
>>337453462
This
The women look like actual women now
>>337455534
why would you be trying to play fireballs with nash anyway? if you're playing a stupid game then you can't complain when you get v-triggered.
>>337455958
I was under the impression we were talking about fireballs being weak in sfv
>>337454548
Do it man
>>337452574
Everone who eats this downright disgusting level of production quality for 60 dollars/euros is on a corporate loyalism level of brainwashed you cant even begin to imagine.
It has so many flaws that are objective flaws like genre standard features missing, but all they can do is deflect with "LMAO GIT GUD XDD", but if you are gud the flaws dont suddenly vanish.
Not even talking about missing content/sp, because i dont care about that, but the actual core part, the multiplayer is also flawed and featureless and broken.
I don't know about you, but it's the paid online for me. I'm not going to pay $100 for a half assed game.
Unpopular opinion but I just wish that they would just keep releasing new and updated versions of SF4 raher than pull this bullshit.
I would rather a MEGA STREET FIGHTER 4 or something where it unlocked Alex Urien Oro and who ever the fuck else. SF4 is 10x more fun to watch imo.
>>337454201
Thats fycking dumb especially with street fighter since the entirefucking game is made and balanced around shotos and especially ryu. Shotos are the least fucking honest because everything is made around them and suited to their favor cause of it.
>narrowly manage to win a match through sheer luck
>don't fight them a second time
>>337456080
Agreed
>IT'S LIKE THIS GUY DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO BE A TOURNEYFAG FUFGGHH HEHERHRHRURUR
it's just not fun to play or watch.
every matchup plays out exactly the same, every time.
i've already gone back to sf4
>>337456292
I don't think you understand what honest means.
If you lose to a shoto you deserve to lose. They don't reduce the game to coinflips or silly shit. They simply have the effective basic tools, and you were beaten by the basic tools. That's it.
>>337452574
>no bikini costumes
>no one-piece swimsuit costumes
>no Street Fighter Xtreme: Paradise DLC
>>337456463
considering that the only character you have to play differently against is sim and he's fucking cancer, I'm not sure that's a bad thing
>>337452574
They turned their flagship game into early access garbage aimed only at tourneyfags.
>>337456080
Whats flaws anon? Be specific.
They designed a game entirely using eventhubs comments.
>>337452641
but the cutest was already announced for the first wave
>>337456969
does he grab her ass? she looks unpleasant....
>>337453454
>Killer Instinct PC on the other hand works flawlessly and is buttery smooth.
Isn't it because that game is almost dead?
>>337457332
>literal cock hungry slut
who cares
>>337456667
you're either blind, deaf, brainwashed, or just retarded if you need anymore explanation at this point..... [my pick is you're retarded]
>>337457526
And Sakura is cock hungry for Ryu. Whats your point?
>>337457608
yeah but she's not a slut
>>337457657
She pleases old men for money
>>337456667
>cant filter lobbies for country/ping
>ragequitting still not properly punished
>netcode is terrible garbage
>game doesnt filter people who cant get 60fps out of ranked or lobbies
>unecessary waiting times in between matches are literally fucking minutes on console and pc, in SF4 you could play the next match in a matter of seconds, this is my biggest gripe since you have all this fucking waiting which reduces your effective play time.
>a few gameplay related bugs like lauras framedate being different in both corners
>no features like showing hitboxes and framedata ingame like e.g KI does
I could go on but these are the ones on top of my head.
>>337457578
Good to know you're just falseflagging then.
"Y-You're retarded!"
So, those flaws, anon? Waiting.
lnb4 muh multiplayer.
>Want to remove set play
>Introduce the crush counter
This is exactly where it all went wrong. It was a fundamental misunderstanding of why set play was bad for the game.
>>337457994
>8 frames of built in input lag, even on local
Why can't we have normal SF threads instead of bait OPs?
How much time it takes to grind for money in game to unlock all the stuff released till now?
>>337458209
Two hours of SP gameplay gives you enough to get the entire season pass. Do the stories, survival mode and trials.
>>337458056
>want to remove set play
Then they shouldn't have made the game all about soft knockdowns. Any viper player in IV could have told you that soft knockdowns are better for setplay than hardknockdowns are. At least you can see what they're doing and learn what to do about it with hard knockdowns. Soft knockdowns have the same setplay capability but now you're having to make decisions even faster.
>>337458056
And they made teclhing worse
And you can't backdash
And even without CC guessing wrong on wakeup means you take more damage
But there's no setplay!
>>337453956
>Fundamental games literally do not exist and it is laughable that people think SF4 was one.
But what you just said you wanted in KOF, SF4 had.
>>337458382
Included the secrets characters that are to come like Balrog and Jurichan?
>>337452574
I am waiting for KOF senpai.
>>337459074
I think so.
Somebody was having fun with the pc version.
https://youtu.be/IvENPQiN_WU
>>337452574
>What went so horribly, desperately wrong?
It's not King of Fighters.
>>337457896
She doesn't take no for an answer
>>337453453
and cr.hp is 3frames.
She almost always wins out in trades and the only real way to blow through her stupidity is invincible attacks or a well placed backdash.
why does it take 10 minutes to find matches this shit is making me not want to play it any
>>337460881
Even when you do get it it takes to long to get in and out of matches. Ultra IV you could go from a match to training mode while still searching for another match in seconds.
>>337460581
Low fierce is 4 frames, close standing is 3. Close standing will not hit after tatsu pushes you away. I'm done talking to you, you obviously got your game knowledge from twitch streams, especially james chen since he likes to say that her low fierce is 3 frames.
Play the fucking game.
>>337452574
they released a half finished game and didn't make it obvious to the consumer and now it's biting them in the ass
http://techraptor.net/content/capcom-admits-street-fighter-v-needed-polish
>>337462056
>didn't make it obvious to the consumer
What bullshit meme are you spouting, retard?
CAPCOM was upfront with everything. They said no story mode until June, they showed all characters/modes/features on release.
Stop parroting false information like the sperg you are.
>>337461910
Well excuse me, 1 whole frame wrong on a character I don't play.
Dsiregard that if you want you can just DP or jab instead to beat out any attempts at interruption.
>>337454487
Sakura is a beast in the corner but her neutral game is lacking. If you can't play a competent neutral game and get bulldogged into the corner by Sakura you deserve to lose because you've been outplayed.
>>337452574
SF5 managed to have even less content than vanilla SF4. How the fuck do you do that?
>>337462491
1 frame will be the difference between a trade and a counterhit. You have no idea what you are talking about but I really can't stop responding. Good job.
>>337463045
Gotta have it out in time for muh esports.
>>337452574
You didn't git gud.
>>337463124
Yes but she still has a 3f jab that combos into her completely safe tatsu.
She's not great but she's fucking braindead.
>>337463376
Jab doesn't combo into tatsu are you fucking trolling me right now?
Pretty much everyone has jab jab hitconfirms, what the fuck am I even reading?
>Fight a guy's Karin, first game I lose
>Fight him again, second game I win
>Third game, lose first round because of a dropped frame and a move not coming out
>Second round, win
>Third round, he Supers from across the room, I block everything
>Game lags in between the Super, get hit by Karin's last hit of the Super even though I'm holding back, which leads her to that last hit of 30 percent life loss
Immediately shut the game off
First game I have ever rage quit like that. I'm sorry to the guy I played, and I'd gladly give you a free game if I ever find you online again, but holy fucking shit was I angry. Also waiting for three minutes each time you want to find a match is garbage.
Why should I ever play SF5 instead of Third Strike?
Third Strike looks better, sounds better, and has more interesting / complex gameplay.
Capcom had 15 years to come up with a game clearly better than Third Strike. They couldn't even do that. Many people say that Third Strike is a better game than SFV.
>>337463475
>cr.jab, cr.fierce xx tatsu
>1f frametrap on block, combo on hit
Braindead pressure.
>>337463732
0 on block, it's not a frametrap you autistic fucking monkey.
PLAY
THE
FUCKING
GAME
Everyone has jab hitconfirms.
made karin a nigger lover to appease western cucks
>>337453772
Yes, just like every game should be ST forever? Or every FPS should be exactly like Quake?
Theres no right or wrong answer, it literally all comes down to personal preference. Just because some fighting game isnt a carbon copy of Divekick doesnt mean its bad.
>>337464023
a 3f framtrap is still a frametrap.
Your opponent is gonna need frame perfect execution to at BEST trade with you.
It's not flawless and it's not particularly devastating but it is
B R A I N D E A D
>>337463648
>more complex gameplay
>parry system that completely removes one aspect of fighting games (zoning)
>only 4 characters on the roster are actually viable
>more interesting/complex gameplay
lol
>>337464279
Pretty much this.
Third Strike is horribly overrated.
>>337464217
The Sakura player needs frame perfect execution too, why are you forgetting that?
Her pressure is decent at best, stop teching you fucking streammonster shitter.
You have obviously never touched this game and just theorycrafting about shit you could only dream about doing.
>>337457994
This person is right. I played the FUCK out of 3s and 4. Now I have little to no impulse to play V at all since the multiplayer is literally fucked
>>337464451
Holy shit I'm not saying she's even a decent character I'm just saying her pressure is fucking braindead, there's no thought involved you just do it.
>>337464279
It has a lot more viable chars than SF5 desu. Ken, Chun, Akuma, Urien, Yin, Yang, Makoto, Dudley are all viable based on the 2016 Cooperation Cup.
Capcom had 15 years to come up with a game clearly better than Third Strike. They couldn't do it.
>>337464650
>2016 Cooperation Cup
You mean the competition where nobody actually decent entered because everybody is focusing on SFV?
I like Third Strike as much as the next guy but come the fuck on dude, it's horribly imbalanced.
>>337464650
>It has a lot more viable chars than SF5
Haha no.
SFV is shit but 3s balance is complete trash
>>337464597
But her pressure does absolutely fucking nothing other than chip damage, why the fuck are you whining like the little bitch you are then?
>>337463732
>implying other characters dont have piss easy frametraps
you realize shes balanced because her reversal is like 12 frames of startup right
its cool though literally nothing will change your mind because youre a scrub who got bopped one too many times by a good sak player
>>337464762
RX is a fantastic player, so you are wrong. His Urien is viable against any character.
And that's because Urien has a ton of options to win due to Reflector. Whereas in SF5, Urien's Reflector will be a V-Trigger that can only be:
>Used once per round
>Used near the end of the round
Capcom had fifteen years, over a decade, to make a game that was clearly better than 3s. But many people prefer 3s, it's not clear in the least that SF5 is better.
>>337458938
Yes but it had its own nonsense like focus attacks and FADC DPs to counter that, leaving aside the absolutely fucked setplay game and characters like viper or seth
>>337464762
Kokujin's Dudley was viable even when the best players in the world were playing 3s. It's a pretty great game t b h
>>337464834
This fucking post.
This is the mind of a Sakura player.
>>337464967
see
>>337464597
>>337453435
This isn't true for me. I like a good chunk of the characters in the game, even if they look like ass, I like their style. Even though alex looks like some sort of bald white ape with french fry hair, I like his style, but I don't like how the game plays at all. Maybe I played sf4 for too long and I'm scared of new things, but sfv does not agree with me.
SF5 just isn't very fun to play. That's the reality.
SF2, SF3, SF4 were all fun to play. I can't say that SF5 is fun to play.
It's new, so people are playing it, but if you released SF4 and SF5 at the same time, I think most people would just play SF4.
ToRtanic V
AGLUBLUBLUB
>>337465164
This fucking post.
This is the mind of a player who keeps mashing crouch tech even though he gets hit every time.
There are plenty of characters who rely heavily on frametraps, Sakura has plenty.
Being 0 on fucking block is not a frametrap, this is what I want you to understand. All you have to do is nothing, I know it's hard for newer players to click that you can just block.
The tatsu pressure you are crying about only works against 1k PP shitters who can't fucking stop hitting buttons when they shouldn't be.
Sakura would fit in 5 perfectly, just look at Chris G's match against Chris T I think it was.
Walk up fucking fierce.
>>337452574
people just got bored of fighting games again. it mostly looks like the same as sf4 and coudnt make a big difference and something new.
>>337454612
>le secret meme
OIHALKA
>>337465819
You seem to be missing the point.
Braindead =/= top tier or even good
>>337452792
It's much more like older sf games than it is similar to SFIV.
>>337466161
You seem to be missing the point too.
The braindead pressure you are talking about doesn't work unless your opponent is braindead.
I guess you think Ken is just mashing DP constantly because it worked in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zd7T5Don5s
there are so many idiotic statements in this thread from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
SFV is overall a step in the right direction. I liked SFIV but I also understand why a lot of OGs hated it and in the end SFV is the better SF game.
All they needed to do was make a more offense-based SFIV.
>>337466898
>SFV is overall a step in the right direction.
Wrong.
>I liked SFIV but I also understand why a lot of OGs hated it and in the end
Because they're niggers and it wasn't 3S
>SFV is the better SF game.
Wrong again.
>>337467083
Okay, wise prophet of the cock anon. Why is he wrong?
>>337452574
there's literally nothing wrong with SFV
just /v/ singleplayer autists shitposting as usual
only complaint is there is some input lag and the dashes are pretty fast so it's kinda twitchy
>>337452574
DLC characters coming in too slow. Basically you have to wait until they add more variety.
Character imbalances and design flaws still but what can you expect with morons like Combofiend testing everything.
Proper storymode is missing. Story is something inbetween 3 and 4 which is dumb.
Lacked features like lobbies at first.
Netcode is better but engine requires a slightly faster computer than USF4 (game is an unoptomized ps4 port).
Region play issues even after picking same region game matches me up with people in Kuwait and Japan perhaps due to no one playing it in the US or the PS4 players are filtering out PC users.
Getting matches is slower, slower loading times, no quick character select. You have to exit out and select your 'fav character' first.
Gameplay is more honest but somehow less fun.
Music is lowkey awful and not hype.
>>337467453
Are you the walking parody of a corporate shill or are you for real?
You are exactly the type of person this post describes
>>337456080
>>337467618
>Gameplay is more honest but somehow less fun.
I think it just lacks depth. Matches all look the same, even the competitive ones are boring. Too barebones.
>>337467083
Kek, is this suppose to be an effective argument?
>>337467318
People who say stupid shit like "it's a step in the right direction" are the types that want zero execution in a fighting game, no false choices (MUH BALANCE) and always online facebook-integrated normalfaggot bullshit. It's a meme.
>>337467083
Because 3s players were the only ones who hated it :^)
Way to prove his point
>>337468091
Was his post supposed to be an argument in the first place?
>hurr it's better because I say so
It's called an opinion and I called his opinion shit, which it is.
>>337468267
It was the most popular fighting game for 8 years.
>>337468362
the fact that you think 3s was popular is just another indication that you're talking out of your ass.
>>337468684
I was talking about SFIV
>>337468362
kek.. maybe people would take you seriously if you actually attempted to back up your opinion .
>3s
>popular
Wow, you're a full retard, huh?
>>337468893
It revitalized the scene because it was the first new SF in a decade after 3s nearly killed the series.
I like SFIV but it wasn't popular because it was some amazing fighting game.
>>337468945
see
>>337468893
Retard.
>>337469204
>hurr it was popular because it was bad
>>337469375
Are you blind? I just told you why it was popular: first SF game in a decade. It's really not a complicated equation. It grabbed many many casuals. It's success was mostly due to timing.
Seriously, you're an idiot.
>>337469734
"first SF in a decade" doesn't explain 8 years of being top dog, genius.
They say the gameplay is more honest but this game is literally all knockdown into guessing on wakeup.
>>337470741
That is literally due to the fact it's street fighter
It's like a mario game at this point, it can be dog shit and it will still have a dedicated playerbase regardless
>>337470927
And yet SFV is being overshadowed by Smash and KI. So much for "BECAUSE IT'S STREET FIGHTER"
They made it instead of Darkstalkers 4.
What % of online matches are against Ken?
If it's below 70% it means not enough plebs have caught onto it.
they should really ip ban ltg from accessing this website
>>337470741
I like the fact that your stupid ass is actually trying to argue that it must be good because it's popular.
Moron.
>>337470927
By that logic 3s shouldn't have failed. It was timing more than anything. SFV hasn't even hit 2 million copies dold either.
It definitely has some name recognition but that's not why people play.
>>337471349
>it must be good because it's popular
SFV tried to appeal to the masses and still sinking to the bottom of the ocean.
Man I love fighting Guiles. And Birdies. And Kens. What wonderful characters.
>>337452574
it's a pretty fun game, the initial release and handling of the first couple dlc additions were a complete shitshow. Next to no single player content for the casual audience that makes the bulk of their "2 million" they're aiming for. Maybe they'll present their shit better by the time boxer comes around.
>>337472383
Literally every SF game is 50% Ken
They are the same plebs who still watch Simpsons
>>337471796
Literally any game that comes out is going to try speaking to a new audience.
the brilliance of SFV is that it still appeals to the hardcore
>>337472383
>>337473051
Ken barely gets played in SFV though....
Guile player reporting in though, glad I could help frustrate you.
>>337473257
>brilliance
That's a strange way of spelling GLUBGLUBGLUB
I just want Sakura.
>>337473051
SF4 Ken was fun though. SFV Ken isn't even fun.
>>337473051
>>337472383
I actually barely run into kens in this game.
I think I actually see bison more than anyone.
>>337473576
Yeah same, I dunno if it's a region thing honestly.
I'm UK and I mostly run into Nash players, Mika players and Chin Li players.
>>337467618
>Music is lowkey awful and not hype
Everything else I agree but you have shit taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMdZ2KGv_BI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu0keXJ3hgc
If you actually like fighting games very little after the serves got fixed up, I get games really quick now
I like playing Alex, but I ain't winning much with him like I was with Laura. I really should just put n more practice
>>337473525
Weak bait it's like you hate running anon
>>337452574
It's an enjoyable game with great mechanics. The only problem is that it was rushed out for the Capcom Pro Tour so on launch it basically was on par with SFIV Arcade loketest versions. By June I don't think any casual will be left to even enjoy the cinematic story mode. If it was at least fall or holiday release it would have ben more appeasing to casuals.
>yfw capcom cut the support of the game for the horrible sales lol.
>>337457332
Man why is rice so good?
I'm eating rice right now, didn't sleep at all last night, and I feel like a king.
Why don't I have an asian qt3.14 that understands the great value of rice?
>>337454009
I had to start playing with sakura because I kept getting messages calling me scrub for playing ken, eve know ken has been my main for 20 years.
>>337474075
the stage themese are alright but the characters themes are pretty boring,but i guess thats because im tired of hearing remixes
>>337475694
But the remixes are great as are the new tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBKYj82_iEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSaetU4V6ZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EJxywGDn24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwc9y3eko5I
>>337455280
Bait his V-reversal and throw him. Can't Ryu punish with an EX Fireball if he tries to escape the corner?
>>337477259
Saving this rare makoto.
>>337452574
Capcom just released an statement that their games need at least 2 million sold for a sequel to be considered.
no Street Fighter 6 it seems
>>337474308
I like Alex too anon but he really is unusable trash tier garbo.
>>337477947
They'd be insane to scrap SF. The brand power is strong and fighting games are relatively cheap to produce. I think they even admitted to rushing it slightly.
>"The release version will be definitive"
>months later the base game is still not complete
>"More footsies, less 50/50"
>The 5 characters with the best footsies/confirms completely dominate, and we still have Mika
>Vanilla SFIV-tier balance that got ten times worse with the release of Guile
>no balance update until December
>online connections are erratic sometimes
At least it's fun to play with friends
>>337478385
>At least it's fun to play with friends
So is throwing rocks at a wall.
>>337478318
>They'd be insane to scrap SF
They already did once. Why do people forget this?
>>337452574
You getting double perfected
Season 2 will have all 6 waifus added.
>>337479475
but best girl is in the game already
>Ibuki will never be played like this in Casual Fighter V
>>337453332
She's not even top tier, not even back then, mate.
Plus they have to learn how to make these openings and connect the combos.
Maybe you're just bad.
>>337479643
We already got Mika for that
>>337479748
t. Sakura main
Braindead does not mean top tier or even good
>quick stand is so fast it returns the game to its neutral state
Why is this allowed?
>>337480129
Most characters have meaty setups for quick rise in a lot of situation
Learning them is essential to allow you to continue pressure.
>>337479643
Man this game was so stupid.
>Urien perfectly predicts the jump in and counters ahead of time
>lmoa parry into insta death
What game is the Melee of SF?
>>337480328
Third Strike
But V and 4 are leaps ahead of Brawl and Sm4sh. Which is why those took over Third Strike.
>>337480237
i saw one reset
he had to block high or block low and low profile to get back in
or parry i guess, lol.
still i agree with you
>>337452837
Pretty much this. Or make it an extended beta period. Literally everyone but fighting game autists feels ripped off by it.
>>337480791
>you're wrong but I agree
senpai....
>>337480791
Yeah I missed the reset as well, my bad.
>>337477259
Is that Ibuki
>>337464650
>It has a lot more viable chars than SF5 desu
Are 3Sfags really this fucking delusional? Have you faggots ever watched a 3S tournament in your life?
>>337480980
That's Aeris from Final Fantasy VII
>>337481067
SFIV has more than both.
>>337479643
Parry was such a braindead mechanic.
>>337471019
>and KI
Keep on dreaming. Look at the actual entrants at tournaments and you'll see that KI isn't nearly close enough to "overshadowing" SFV.
>>337480882
nah i mean the overall sentiment, i just feel the game is kind of stupid too.
>>337481198
It does, nobody is denying that. SFIV also has a massive cast and many many years of development behind each character.
>tfw triple (You)s
>>337481328
KI sold better though.
>>337481427
kay
>>337481471
It's also a better game
>>337481660
>KI sold better though.
SFV is sitting at 1.4m right now, and KI was literally fucking free.
USFIV is not necessarily a better game. It had gimmicks up the ass and was basically the definition of how to make a non-standard fighter, which was entirely unfit to be an SF game. The game is still great as a game, but as an honest SF game, SFV is definitely way more in the right direction.
>>337481874
>SFV
>Honest
Mika would like a word.4 (You)s
>>337482171
Mika is one character. USFIV has entire mechanics surrounding the game that go against that nature, and multiple characters that are as bad if not worse. Do people seriously think that Mika is more bullshit than many of the things you had to face in any iteration of SF4?
>>337481198
>definitive top tier in Vanilla 4 was Akuma, Sagat and Ryu
Holy shit, I'm getting angry just thinking about that game
They released an early access game geared 100% towards the autistic FGC
>>337482297
>Mika is one character
Nadeshiko would like a word.
>>337482339
Honda was stealth high tier, too.
>>337482436
>mash buttons fighter
>geared 100% towards FGC
>>337452792
It is nothing like "take back my mistake fighter IV"
>>337482515
Much of SFIV was just waiting for someone to make a mistake.
>>337481320
>>337481427
>this is what scrubs actually think
>>337482297
SF has always had tons of bullshit. Play ST for a while and tell me the series is built on pure fundamentals.
>>337482515
fadc was kind of cool in theory but holy shit, you should not be at a disadvantage after blocking a fucking DP.
If they had made it so you couldn't fadc on reversal the game would have been tons more fun to play.
At least in 5, if you want to throw out a super unsafe reversal you have to be prepared to face the consequences
>>337482870
>random damage
>random dizzy
Man ST is a mess when you look back
>>337482515
That's because SFIV actually had moves that were unsafe.
>>337475631
>dropping your life long main thanks to what some salty scrubs said to you online
You're worse than thrash.
>>337482717
Which is why I fucking hated it. There are characters that play intentionally to wait out mistakes. It shouldn't be every single character.
Fuck IV. I had to wait out that shit after III.
>>337483406
I can't think of a single SF title that isn't a mess in some regards, but ST in particular is a fucking joke at times.
What? Did you play SFIV, there are plenty of characters that don't wait on mistakes. Or are you complaining that every character benefits if the other makes a mistake?
Do you want to make mistakes and not be punished for it or some shit?
>>337483831
Kids literally want to do nothing but jump in and they made anti-airs weak as fuck in SFV. So yes, they want to make mistakes constantly and not be punished.
>>337482807
>was easily punishable by certain characters moves because you couldn't recover from the animation fast enough
>ruined the spacing and zoning aspects of game
>could mash it out to the point where at least one parry would hit if you were desperate enough.
But then there are shitters like you who saw muh evo moment and think it's god's gift to fighting games
>>337484128
Anti Air's were really only strong in SF2 I feel.
3S Anti Airs is a dangerous game, and they were generally also pretty weak in SFIV. They were dangerous in IV though since some characters could burn you on wakeup for free.
>>337484351
You could ultra someone out of the air with almost every fighter.
>>337484531
My bad, forgot about Ultras. Ultras were pretty retarded in general though and didn't really make sense in how the match played up until you got them.
>>337484186
>could mash it out to the point where at least one parry would hit if you were desperate enough.
topkek
This point alone says a lot about you. You never even bothered learning parry game and throw your frustrations into the game. What if the Urien instead of throwing a fireball, had parried Ibuki's jump in attack and punished into a combo + setup to aegis? Git gud, scrub. If one can parry, so can the other.
>>337483431
Were you trying to prove something with this? V is full of unsafe moves. Even Ryu as safe of a fucker as he is has a lot of unsafe shit.
IV just made unsafe moves irrelevant.
>>337485015
Viscant did a pretty good post of the parry system.
http://i.imgur.com/0eNMRgJ.jpg
>>337485474
>V is full of unsafe moves.
HA
>>337485015
>listed what was wrong with the parry mechanic
>YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS
Capkids everyone.
>>337485643
>Marvel player talks mad shit about a game he could never place in
>>337481083
No, that's clearly May Kunai, from the King of the Hill games.
>>337485691
Bro, I'm a fucking Laura player. You are full of shit.
>>337485961
Just mash c.mk and cancel into anything and see how unsafe she is.
>>337483381
I don't mind FADC that much since it costs 2 bars to cancel out of a move so you're sacrificing for that safety.
>>337486109
>Just mash c.mk and cancel into anything
Okay, you're full of shit. A cancel into thunderclap is safe, sure. But if you cancel into her overhead kick or river split and the opponent blocks, you're open.
Stop being full of fucking shit, man. SFV has a lot of unsafe moves. As to that, Laura makes up for her negative frames via her v-skill cancelling but she's always been a pressure character dependent on mix ups. If the player acts accordingly and Laura can't get in, then everything Laura does outside of cancelling into thunderclaps are unsafe (and they are extra unsafe versus Gief because of his HK).
>>337486274
As much as I hate it, the FADC system will be what makes IV unique from the other entries. People like it and it was good enough to keep the game alive for...I don't know, I want to say nine years?
Suffice to say, I still hate how much I got punished for trying to punish a fucking DP.
>>337486338
Yeah, well Laura is bottom ass tier so nobody cares. Meanwhile Nash can float in the air and kick your face in for 3 seconds and be totally safe. He can put 98 projectiles on the screen and be safe. Safe Fighter V
>>337480948
So did Urien
>>337486463
FADC didn't keep the game alive, Capcom's refusal to move on did. People hate FA's, slows the game down to a crawl.
>>337486463
I don't mind FADC in concept. Not a huge fan of wakeup DP's being FADC-able, but I think it's a cool mechanic to give a little more depth to meter management.
I do hate raw Focus Attacks though.
nashes dash went wrong. probably the only thing i'd call broken in this game
>>337453554
>>337453838
>Chunners
>"insane damage output"
You fucking what, she's one of the weakest characters unless you expend an EX bar.
Even then, other characters can get just as much damage or even more with less work. Chun-Li takes a lot of skill, m8 and is one of the harder characters to play as.
>>337475878
after years of hearing the same theme masked with a different genre of music i wish capcom would just give the old characters new themes
>>337452792
Bait.jpg
>>337482807
sorry i just don't like it
>>337486859
>after years of hearing the same theme masked with a different genre of music i wish capcom would just give the old characters new themes
I wouldn't mind it at all if they gave Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li new themes at least. I've never particularly liked their classic themes. I think the EX games had way better themes for them.
I don't want them to ever touch Guile or Cammy's themes though. Those are just fine the way they are.
>>337474075
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMdZ2KGv_BI [Remove]
My nigga
Hated this after only hearing the first few seconds since I normally don't like that sort of music, but once that chorus kicks in, fuck me.
>>337486274
But if you're playing character with fadc into Ultra then you could get up to 600 damage off of a wakeup DP
Granted they toned it down over the literations but it still made reversal DPs low risk, huge reward moves which is bullshit
>>337486531
>Laura is bottom ass tier
>Complains about Nash
Are you a fucking Bronze or have you just not played the game?
Nash? You're complaining about how safe NASH is?
Just because Infiltration is good with the character doesn't make any of the shit Nash does safe. If you brought up Ryu or Chun Li, you would have somewhat of an argument. But otherwise, you are talking out of your ass.
A lot of the shit Nash does is predictable at that.
As for Laura, if you think she's bottom tier, you haven't fought a proper Laura then.
>>337485643
His first point is actually about 3s' balancing issues, and not about the parry system itself. His second point is almost valid, but it's up to debate if that's a bad thing. There are not hit and run characters or projectile spamming characters? Great! Fuck those guys, they are cancer of fighting games anyway. Who the fuck likes to play against a turtler?
And what he says about mind games is just straight up stupid. He says that "It's just 'I thought he was going to do this and then he did that.'" Well, no shit, that's part of what mind games have always been. Boiling it down into a strawman doesn't make it bad.
Also, since when is Viscant relevant for the 3s scene anyway? He's a fucking marvel player ffs.
SFV OST is good but nothing trumps this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzJQ4p_I-EE
>>337464650
>3rd strike: hey lets nerf characters to make ryu and ken more popular edition.
Those who actually played SF3 back in its glory days know what im talking about. Yeah im salty
>tfw this stage isn't in sf5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fGvUBGHjog
the stage itself isn't special but i enjoyed the music at least
>>337487845
Also SF4 has the best version of Guile's theme by far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6XM3fDUxLg
The OST in SF4 is great.
>>337487812
Viscant is always relevant ever since he made LTG his literal bitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfBKOlS7yrg
Does Capcom have addressed that it would add more elements to online play? because lobbies needs more filters like country, ping and rank, also, it really needs a ranked lobby like SF4.
>>337488780
Also lobbies need seperate rooms like Xrd does it so it's not just king of the hill. Also rooms need chat support so you can actually use the lobbies besides standing in a line.
>>337489084
It's the guy spamming the same copypaste images of how SFV is pay-to-win since launch. Just ignore and report.
>>337487812
>Viscant is a marvel player !!!
lol 09ers
>>337489084
You didn't write "is"
>>337487845
What the fuck? This theme is terrible.
>>337489294
So, im looking for a new job, how much do capcom pay to shill their games on here?
>>337489929
Well how much are you getting paid now to shitpost the same pastas months on end? Something like that.
episodic dlc
>>337452574
No Juri
>Play Ryu because I didn't enjoy anyone else I tried that much(Mika, Gief, Ken, Cammy)
>Cammy and Ken were alright
>kinda want to switch to Nash
why is deciding on a main so hard
next dlc news when ?
also Adon and Akuma better be in season 2 or else Iwill cry alone in a corner while being unable to do anything about it
>Urien finally comes out
>he doesn't have aegis
>>337491364
I know what you mean. I actually enjoy playing the entire cast, but at this point I'm not improving much since I don't know character match ups very well.
>>337491364
>>337492508
Usually your main finds you, but this cast is so weird.
I've settled for Karin until someone better comes around.
>About to win best of 3 with ex hado
>Guy jabs
>It hits me before my hado hits him
>lose
>Go outside
>Go behind my shed
>hang myself
JURI WHEN
>>337492650
>Usually your main finds you
I never understood this
>>337492321
I was kind of surprised Akuma wasn't in from the start or at least one of the first dlc characters.
I'm sure he'll be in for Season 2. Adon, not so much
>>337490379
>sold less than 400k copies
It sold 1.4 million so you're an idiot.
>>337491364
Because every character plays roughly the same.
>>337484186
Only people who were mad about parrying where retards, who were just fishing for easy anti-air damage. Get mixed up to death faglord.
>>337495505
It's just stunning that he keeps spamming the same image even though the info has been debunked as bullshit. That faggot has legitimate mental health issues.
>>337478087
Alex needs to be played as a slightly defensive zoner with his long ranged normals. His damage off of confirms is high enough he can sit on a lead until he scores a knockdown with a EX move and go for favorable 50/50s. He's definitely harder to play then most of the cast in that his pressure isn't completely braindead, but it's definitely possible to win with him if you are diligent.
>>337484186
None of these things are true
Spacing is more important with parry as it forces you to play at a range where you cant be punished after a parry
you cant "mash" parry, you will just make your character dash forward into an attack if you try
Chunners is tge best thing to happen to sfv
>>337454980
it's annoying, and desu, i doubt Infiltration would beat Tokido 3 times in a row if Nash wasn't so better than Ryu at footsies
>>337494747
Wait until Tekken 7 finishes using him.
Nothing did, this game is fun
I guess what went wrong was not appealing to casuals that wanted arcade mode and shit like that.
But in a few months that should be covered, after evo things should be looking up.
>>337497412
It's not even in the top 100 right now.
It's dead.
>>337497634
But SFV was literally made for casuals
>>337452721
Thread was done here.
>>337498151
it was then capcom forgot that the stuff that casuals like so they're trying to push the tournament scene more nowfuck combofiend for saying that lupe match was legit people aren't stupid
>>337498151
>Street fighter has it's own barneyfag
How do I unlock colors 14 and 15?
>>337499635
Win 10 matches online in a row with perfects and Critical art finishes
>>337499627
it seems like everything on /v/ has its own barneyfag now
>>337499635
by leveling your character through ranked/casual, for the 15 you need level 50
How do I improve my Bison play? I have troubles with grapplers (can't shake them off with slow jab) and shimmies blow me up.
I'm in Ultra Gold league for a ling time already.
>>337499962
Well that sucks since I don't really play Ranked much anymore and I'm only Level 25 atm
>>337452641
The cutest is in the base roster though.
>>337457332
Ibuki is a cutie!
>>337492321
How would you remake Adon for SFV? Nash stole his best move, and I can't even think what the fuck he would use for a v-trigger or v-skill.
>>337453435
>mechanically SF5 is better than SF4
Do people genuinely believe this?
Its dumbed down with much less technicality, a lot of stuff is just guessing games
Everyone I've seen who said SF5 is better has been trash
>>337500882
>overpowered whore
>cute
Pick one
>>337485643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fYiuQ8udY
>>337502239
>being so butthurt about a post from literally 10 years ago
I don't know who any of these people are or play any of these games but goddamn
>>337488449
>>337488069
>>337487845
>>337488036
>>337496179
You can always be punished after a parry you dumb fuck
Did you even play the game?
A normal will extend your hurtbox so even at max spacing their normal will hit you
>>337502061
>Overpowered
At least she requires execution skills and footsies.
>>337484186
>parry was easily punishable
Ahahahah, and you call someone else a shitter
Did you even learn how to fucking parry?
Its never punishable, if they cancel the parried normal into a special/super you're still at a frame advantage, +4 , +3 and +2 for lights to heavies
But obviously you don't know that, instead you pressed something after your parry and got hit by super, because you're a moron
>>337452574
Capcom is a bunch of arrogant fucks out of touch with reality.
To improve just fire the the board and the seniors, promote some new blood (try Combofiend), and get Akiman back.
>my favorite street fighter is good but your favorite street fighter is shit
>now u did it
/v/ is so retarded. Why is anyone even replying to people who try to make their favorite game look better by shitting on other games in the process? If you see someone praising his favorite game and disrespecting other games in the process you just label him a shitposter and that's it. Only try to make an argument with people who can appreciate a good game no matter the circumstances and give it some respect instead of labeling everything shit to strengthening the contrast between his own opinion and the opinions of other people.
I don't see making an argument with faggots who are opposing the very idea of your opinion and will try anything to win an internet argument.
>>337452574
Lack of characters on release (SFIV also does this but it was only present on the arcade version, not the home version)
Broken promises (As far as I know, only 1 stage (china) has that special out of bounds KO animation)
Finding online matches can take too fucking long
No arcade mode (I'm not that much of a fan with survival mode. I wanna play some proper best of 3 matches on days were the internet is having problems. Also, the lack of arcade mode would pretty much means that there won't be an arcade version of SFV)
Gameplay is neat and all that but it feels lacking. It didn't quite help that Zangief didn't have his banishing flat move, which is odd since that's one of his useful and iconic move.
For some reason, I'm somewhat expecting Capcom to either make a super version of SFV or make SFVI
Also, can someone clarify me with the whole paying for characters, stages, and costumes thing for me?
From what I know, costume and stages requires fight money to be unlocked, which can be acquired by playing the game. Characters, on the other hand, requires Zenny which can be acquired by paying real money right? If that's the case, getting a super edition of SFV would have been a better solution than this.
And I'm not so sure with this one, but I think I heard someone (I think it was from capcom) said that you can unlock characters just by playing the game. If I'm correct, that's some nice lie right there.
>>337504156
>(As far as I know, only 1 stage (china) has that special out of bounds KO animation)
There does look to be some pretty obvious ones in the other stages, though, I suspect there may be more patched in later
>>337504156
>Characters, on the other hand, requires Zenny which can be acquired by paying real money right
I'm pretty sure you can get characters from fight money too
>Fighting games are dead
>RTSs are dead
Poison when
>>337453548
It's not getting credit for that because it isn't. SFV is such a shitty game that the defense for the first two months was, "It's a shitty game with such good gameplay though!" Now with people really talking about what input lag means for the game even "great gameplay" is up in the air.
SFV is fun. I like Alex a lot, but talking about that game makes me realize how good it isn't.
>>337487812
Stop parroting Baf's response video. Just because he's a lovable sperg doesn't mean he doesn't have his own biases.
I would never count something that limits the amount of playstyles and archetypes a game can have as a good thing. Just because you don't like turtling doesn't mean anything.
>>337496179
From max range Ryu can parry > cr fierce most long range normals. This includes Alex's forward, his NO!, all Hugo buttons and so on. Your extended hurtbox stays where it is during your recovery.
>>337505395
>Non-Military shooters are coming back
Is Vega still considered top tier? I can't see how a character who gets raped so hard on knockdown and in the corner can be rated so highly
>>337484351
FADCs meant that a lot of characters can burn meter for a lot of damage when you jump. Anti-aring in V is much more consistent because every jump-in that isn't Ryu's short has hurtboxes that extended past the hitbox, but you can't ruin someone's day for jumping like you can in 4.
>>337504535
I think they intended it to be a feature of the game, because they made a point of showing it off with the very first trailer.
But then they ran out of time/money, so didn't put any others in. Kanzaki estate obviously was supposed to have them, for example.
>>337507730
I think he's high mid now.
Top dogs are Ryu, Nash and chun
>>337502239
Baf's video is the worst thing you can post. He cannot disprove most of what Viscant says because the grievances he airs are subjective.
In fact, at the end of part 2 I think baf hurts his case more than anything. He concedes that there is a mixup game involved with just anti-aring and he concedes that the parry system invalidates several typical archetypes. He ends up leaning heavily on, "So? What's wrong with that? Who even likes Sagat or O.Ryu?"
>>337507668
what do you mean? CoD is finally breaking away from the military stuff, and everyone violently reacted against it.
Meanwhile, Battlefield is right back to the World Wars, and everyone can't stop sucking its dick.
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>>337506204
I need so badly to see Poison's toned midriff in the SFV engine.
>>337495505
400k was the first week number, pretty sure. That's not relevant any more but at the time it was.
>>337486531
god damn /v/ is fucking garbage at fighting games. Nash is punishable on hella shit.
>>337508124
We got Overwatch, Battleborn, UE4, three other arena shooters, and a pretty good DOOM game. I'm pretty happy.
>>337453696
stay mad
>have shitloads of fun in USF4
>decide to give V a try, it at least has awesome visuals
>cannot get the game to run unless i cave in and allow W7 to update to service pack 1
>finally install, get rage quitters left and right (when there was no punishment, no idea if there is now)
>connections so terrible that you literally see a command grab hit on my screen - Necalli already having Cammy's head firmly in his palm - but then getting rolled back to a DP that happened instead on the other side
>get frustrated and go back to USF4
Tell me how this game is any good for someone living in an area without any offline scene whatsoever.
>>337508439
UE4? You mean UT4?
>>337488036
I miss Drive-In more than anything.
https://youtu.be/e-VPGPVUuM8
>>337508797Whoops
>>337452574
¿Should i buy USFIV since this is apparently dead?
>>337508031
and Ken. People are putting him up there since he makes up most of the top 8s in Ameriland.
>>337509102
Only if you enjoy fighters with a lot of gimmicky characters.
If you want to get good at fighting games in general, go with SFV, since it's based on fundamentals.
It has a bigger reliance on knowing your frame data than 4 though, where you can just abuse your gimmicks and maybe vortex people to death.
>>337508428
What normals of his are punishable? I've been having a lot of trouble against Nash because his turn seems to take forever.
>>337509102
Ultra is a really good game. However, V is new. Thus V has a much bigger playerbase.
>>337508031
>I think he's high mid now.
I don't even think he's that high desu. Maybe he just sucks against Karin but it seems he has literally no way to escape the corner. His V-Reversal is a fucking joke
frame data and nerd meta like that is the worst.
>>337509675
Backslashes are really good until he's already cornered.
At midscreen he can VReversal an early hit of EX Legs and get a full punish.
>>337509965
>knowledge of the game required
>bad
>>337509387
most of command normals, like f-hp, which can be easily spaced to not be punishable.
>>337509361
anon, stop memeing.
>>337452979
Daigo'd
>>337467878
Game are two months old, for fucks sake. wait at least a year to complain about depth.
>>337511367
>Depth
I doubt you or anyone else on /v/ have even gotten close to scratching the surface of this game, or any other mechanically elegant fighter like ST/VF/HF let alone the mechanically obtuse abortion people call "technical" known as USFIV.
>>337511976
>wrongquoting
sorry, was meant for
>>337467878
Just kill me
>>337500303
If you're in Ultra Gold than surely you can handle yourself. Grapplers are honestly a crapshoot on wakeup, block if you think they'll meaty, jump if you think they'll cmd grab. Fuck Laura.
I think psycho blast really shines in matchups like Gief and Birdie at neutral, they tend to jump right into it and there's not a lot they can really do to whiff punish if if you're using it at longer ranges. Standing forward isn't terrible either.
Dashing into grab blows up gief's v-skill pretty hard too, since they usually expect an attack
But what do I know, I'm a Super Gold Bison.
>>337507443
>Stop parroting Baf's response video
I don't even know who that is or what his response was. But if his response was by coincidence similar to mine it shows how viscant's points are so obviously flawed.
>I would never count something that limits the amount of playstyles and archetypes a game can have as a good thing.
Pretty much all games limit certain playstyles. Some fps discourage running towards the enemy. Others discourage camping or walking too slowly, etc. It's absolutely normal for a game to be design around certain ways to play.
>Just because you don't like turtling doesn't mean anything.
And just because you like turtling doesn't mean anything either. I really don't find playing against a turtler fun. Even people who don't mind playing against a them will still find more fun to play against someone who participates in the game. I don't think it's a bad thing to encourage for the player to more active in the game rather than be a passive faggot-ass turtler.
Is there a more flashy combo in this game than Karin's JFL, LK Mujin, Ex Tenko, Ex Orochi?
I can't stop doing it every chance I get even though it's a huge meter hog desu
>>337511976
It is stupid to imply that SFV is as technical as SF4. It was specifically designed to not be. People know optimal play already, that is fine because it allows people's skill to shine through more, but saying that there is as much to learn in SFV is objectively wrong.
>>337510198
Fuck off nerdo. There is a big difference between "knowing the game" and gay bullshit like frame data.
>>337512687
Guiles animu combo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67WKux2KS8
>>337512914
>knowing what options you have after certain moves and what's safe or not is somehow bad
>>337513371
Watching this reminds me I've yet to play a good Guile in this game.
I've played a few Alex's that make me want to cry, but every Guile I fight spend most of their time trying to get out of the corner
>>337512710
I wasn't saying that there was as much to learn, I was saying that most people don't even come close to mastering "simple" games, let alone complex cluster fucks of subsystems like SFIV.
So when people complain about complexity they are full of shit because they probably barely have a grasp on their basic matchups, let alone all the weird intricacies of the engine.
>>337477259
This is somehow more erotic than all the porn dumps this week
>>337487845
I love how Hakan's wife had more thought put into her design than Hakan himself
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