So /v/ has Square regained your trust? Do you like Square again?
No, bring back fantasy earth zero
No, they're still shit.
>>337400140
Just because Square's not as dumb as they were 5 years ago doesn't mean I like them.
>Back then
>Was a company that took risk and gave a fantastic variety of RPGS
>Now
>Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts the company
I wish Square took risks again instead of just playing it safe by pumping out mainly Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts games. The last time they took a risk was The World Ends With You and that was a fucking masterpiece.
>>337400140
Where the fuck is my Legend of Mana remake? Like is it too hard to get a game like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nVqEYv_Ris
>>337400140
I never stopped trusting them.
>>337400817
But people hate it when Square takes risks! Just look at all the bitching about Final Fantasy XV not being the same medieval setting, and FF7 remake not being a clone of the original, but with better graphics.
>>337401151
Because back then they took risks with side properties while their main FF property always took very incremental steps instead of doing almost full 360s with every sequel, like any sane company.
>>337400140
>First is to strengthen and reboot our existing IPs
>>337401151
>the same medieval setting
FXIII did?
>>337400817
>I Am Setsuna
>Bravely Default
>Not risks
>Not the best jrpg's in generations.
>>337401791
>very traditional RPGs modeled after previously successful games from the same company
>risky
The only risk is being a new IP, the gameplay and type of game isn't risky at all. Now this is a real risk.
>still no news on DQMJ3
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/valkyrie-anatomia-tops-one-million-downloads
JUST
Square Enix to me is like my kid, who constantly fucks up and does shit to piss you off, but I can't stop loving
>>337402218
has anyone here played it?
>>337400140
I never hated them. They've always put out quality games.
>>337402678
This so much
>>337402218
isn't that a good thing?
>>337403029
>FFXIII
>Vanilla FFXIV
>Quality
I never disliked them to begin with. You assholes are all underage faggots.
>>337403186
>he's still spouting the "FFXIII is a bad game" meme
>>337400140
>Releasing most of it's titles in episodes
>Trying to scam their way out of things
>Turning to become mobile first developer
Why the hell will I trust them right now? Of all times
>>337403186
FFXIV was better than A Realm Reborn
>>337403439
it is bad
>>337403454
You know their President released a statement saying that the money gained from mobile projects was going to find more of their console games, right? Stop spouting memes
>>337402218
>>337403169
Success of these things always makes me wary, because how will the publisher interpret and react to the sales? Will they think that people love and want a new, proper VP, and immediately go to work on that? Or will they think the public only wants another VP mobile game?
Just KH, FFXV andFF7.
>>337403565
>being in denial this much
>>337400140
They have been dead to me since FF12
>>337403785
everyone hates it
>>337403916
Wrong-o
>>337400140
After how they butchered Final Fantasy XV? Yes, because I don't give a fuck about that gay boy band game when we have great things like Dissidia and FF14 to look forward.
I like Square but
>lazy ios ports
>can't ever stick to a fucking schedule
>>337404014
I have never met a single FF-13 fan outside of /v/
>>337404118
>>337404168
I have never met a single person who knows Might and Magic was a series before HoMM outside of /v/and the Codex
>>337403685
You know you should stop trusting everything that comes from PR department, until it happens I won't believe a damn thing, because if it was true Hitman would have been released as a whole game not piecemeal
>>337404313
what's your point?
>>337403186
FF13 was great. And 14 had some great ideas that people weren't receptive of.
I have an abused wife relationship with Square.
>Loved them back in the day
>Over time, they started to change
>Started being a shitty person
>Would constantly break my heart, lie to me and beat the ever living fuck out of me
>Still won't let them go because of all the love I had and all the fond memories
>They start to get better as of late
>The beatings stop
>still fear everyday they will slip back to their old ways
>>337404259
If my opinion baits you then I offer an apology. No need to feel threatened by it, it is just how I feel about current Square-Enix. As long as I get Dissidia and FFXIV I don't really care about what else they do with the franchise.
I've hated them ever since they decided the rest of the world couldn't have Dragon Quest games or spinoffs. I bought a 3ds early on because I expected some new games.
They had a Monsters title before Pokemon was on the 3DS, for fuck's sake.
>>337400140
>So /v/ has Square regained your trust?
No. They're blocking all the good Enix games from coming west and killing all their own IPs.
>Do you like Square again?
No.
>>337404923
>I have an abused wife relationship with Square.
Don't worry, that's how all Final Fantasy fans feel. "The last three games were shit, so the next game must be good!"
>regained
never lost it
although i constantly ask myself where the fuck is the return of Tactics Ogre and the revival of Front Mission.
maybe it's better FM is dead after that evolution garbage but my fucking god i'd kill for another SRPG in either universe.
They never really lost my trust anywhere near as much as other publishers/developers.
Dev's like ubisoft have gone way further downhill than square ever did. I'm happy that most of their games are getting PC releases as well which have been getting better with every port.
Remake when?
Xenogears too
>>337405950
>something besides a Final Fantasy game
>getting a remake
Might as well go for broke and ask for a Chrono Cross remake while you're dreaming so much.
>>337406075
hey let him be, he's aRadical Dreamerand I respect that
They never had it. I never really gave a shit about Square games growing up except for what I read about them in Nintendo Power. Eventually when I did start playing some of their games, naturally I started withan imported copy of Bravely Default, and Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime.Eventually I got into the mainline Dragon Quest games and imported Bravely Second.
I know that most of /v/ doesn't have the firsthand experience that would help them understand, but Square Enix is jewish as all hell when it comes to DLC. Bravely Default: For the Sequel had 4 costumes that you could have a CHANCE of getting if you bought a 3000円 artbook. Buying the artbook gave you a code that would unlock 1 out of 4 costumes. There was no other way to get them.
With Dragon Quest, I'm salty because they never brought over スライムもりもり3 - I had to import it - and the RIDICULOUS accents that they bring to the Western releases of Dragon Quest games. That, along with the fact that the whole reason I imported Bravely Default was because of the censorship, what they did with Bravely Second in the west didn't help matters.
After all that, there's the fact that I own a Vita...
If Wada was still running Square, would they be bankrupt right now? That guy was pure fucking cancer
>>337403693
they actually said if it does well they might consider making a "proper VP" instead of mobage gacha shit
>>337400817
>Nier Sequel by Platinum
What the hell else do you want from them
>>337406075
Or they could remake trigger, which isn't a steaming pile of shit.
>>337406569
>remake a game that's already good
That's exactly why Chrono Trigger shouldn't get a remake. Chrono Cross had tons of potential that wasn't realized because of rushed development. Which is exactly the kind of game should get a remake.
>>337400140
I'm not buying another Square game until they stop sending me fucking emails.
Seriously, if they can't even manage to let someone unsubscribe from their stupid shit, they don't deserve money.
>>337400140
They're one of my favorite companies. They've had their fair share of missteps before, but actions speak louder than words and what they've done lately is demonstrate that they're giving an earnest effort to go back to what made them great before. I'm cautious about their future, but if anything, they're certainly trying harder than Capcom. Still hyped as fuck for FFXV and Setsuna should be good.
>>337407004
>they're trying harder than Capcom
You can't be fucking serious.
>>337401791
>bravely Default
>risky
LITERALLY Not!Final Fantasy
>>337400140
They did with how they handled A Realm Reborn but now they're losing it again with how they're handling the promotion for XV. I just can't help but get this sinking feeling there's a really shit game behind all the marketing and spinoff content they've got going on right now. It just looks like another case of them and Sony over betting on an IP before it's even properly out yet and received like they pretty much always do.
>Squaresoft nearly kills itself
>needs a bailout from Enix to stay alive
>put the same idiot who nearly killed Squaresoft in charge of the now combined SquareEnix
>Wada repeats all the same mistakes; has to step down because of so many issues
>four years later, still not much has changed
>Setsuna was pointless
>Dragon Quest games still not out in the west
>Mana and SaGa turned into smartphone shit
>FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 still delayed
SquareEnix is basically the next Konami. Unless something drastic changes, they're going to kill themselves.
Who's getting this instead of XV?
>>337400140
FFXV is one of their last chances. I haven't liked anything past FFX and two of them were fucking MMOshit.
>>337407208
>I just can't help but get this sinking feeling there's a really shit game behind all the marketing and spinoff content they've got going on right now.
Sounds like a Final Fantasy game to me.
>>337400140
>No Einhander sequel yet
>>337401354
By reboot existing IPs they mean make mobages out of them. At least this looks like some moderate level of effort was put into it though.
>>337407261
I have this feeling that that's going to be more of the gamer's game with XV being more of a graphical showcase than anything
>>337407261
I won't buy another FF game until they release all the Dragon Quest games.
>>337407706
>being this much of a cuck
>>337400140
GIVE HIM BACK YOU FUCKING MONSTERS
>>337407706
man your embargo is really fucking their wallets up, you big boy, you.
Final Fantasy XV
Kingdom Hearts
Nier 2
Final Fantasy VII Remake
I'm fucking hyped
How do you guys feel about Nomura? I love the guy. He's always been my favorite person at Square. His only flaw is that he tries to do way too fucking much at one time and so his projects take forever to release. But can't really blame him for it because Square needs him to give his touch to everything so it won't be shit
>>337408538
FFXV is probably my most hyped game in recent memory because of the KH-likeness without the dumbass edgy Disney story stapled onto it. Still pumped about KH, though.also hoping Utada Hikaru knocks it out of the park with another great song
>>337408308
The irony of your image is palatable. As the type of person who is going to rush out and buy FFXV and VII:R is the same type who fell for Overwatch marketing.
>>337400140
Idk man. It seems like they have been fucking up a lot lately.
>XIII series was a giant mistake, especially dragging it out into 3 games.
>A lot of their mobile shenanigans have been annoying.
>Running XI into the ground drove away longtime players.
>Trying to create another MMO with XIV 1.0 that ended up lacking polish and was slightly mishandled.
>The re-launch with ARR, while more successful and accessible, has stagnated and remained a shitty WoW clone, thriving off Blizzard's continual destruction of WoW.
>The VII remake is possibly compromised due to revisions of story/characters/gameplay and piece meal development process.
This is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more fuck ups and grievances against them.
>XV is garbage
>VIIR is an unneeded remake, in parts, and surely will be garbage
>killed Dissidia with this shitty reboot
>WoW Fantasy XIV
>Type-0 Online
>no Type-Next in sight
>funded SO5, which is garbage, not a surprise though
>KH is still a thing
No. NieRA is nice though.
>>337409129
It's still not confirmed that Utada is even coming back for Kingdom Hearts 3. Disney is being cheap as fuck. I pray they work something out because if Utada isn't singing the intro to KH 3 then it is automatically shit. This is a FACT
KH 3 could be the most fun game ever made but if Utada isn't featured then it will be dead on arrival
>>337408308
I already did the calculations. If SquareEnix had released all the Dragon Quest games on 3DS, PS4 and Dragon Quest X, I would have already spent $850 dollars by now. Which is far more than the $60 they would have gotten out of me from FFXV.
So in reality, they did lose a ton of sales. Not just from me, but people as a whole. SquareEnix needs to go back to their practices of the SNES and PS1. Making dozens of medium sized games that sell 1-3 million copies each. Rather than depending on one high cost game release that sells 6 million.
>>337409516
As someone who enjoyed XI and likes DQ, Square's failure to release DQX in the west tears at my soul continuously to this day.
>dq7 3ds delayed
>dq7 3ds now digital only
>>337409701
>>337409380
Guys I was just being silly, I don't feel anything at all about this topic.
>>337409532
I just remembered something a while ago about her father coming forward and publicly saying that she was going to do it, and then she basically said "hold your horses, pal"
S C A R E D
To be honest I'm pretty happy with SQE overall.
Setsuna seems amazing and is being ported to a console I own (PC).
FFXV seems amazing and will be ported to a console I own (PC).
DQ7, 8 and 11 seems amazing and will be translated on a console I own (3DS).
I mean, they still suck making games for mobile and shit but I can't blame them, mobile is easy cash, and at least they aren't making numbered entrys on FF and shit in mobile (COF COF BREATH OF FIRE 6??? CRAPCOM FUCK YOU).
I wish they'd port Star Ocean 5, but with things looking as they are now, I think its possible.
I'm also happy that I can buy their shit, because they price them right on Steam, before I could only pirate it because the prices are ridiculously retarded where I live, but steam uses just prices.
>>337409516
Wait, no XIV expansion until at least April 2017? Fuck. I was hoping maybe end of the year.
>>337409516
>Dragon Quest X is making 50% of the profit of Final Fantasy XIV
>DQX still only in Japan
>FFXIV released worldwide
There's no logical reason for not releasing the game in the west. Even with modest success it would have surpassed FFXIV.
>>337409957
Source?
>>337410087
XIV had Fanfests through February of 2017. It won't be before those.
>>337410062
>DQ7, 8 and 11 seems amazing and will be translated on a console I own (3DS)
there are no news on DQ11 in english man
you know the song and dance by now
>>337409525
>game that's not out yet
>garbage
Classic /v/
>>337409957
>dq7 3ds now digital only
That hasn't been said, but I wouldn't put it past them. At this point, I wouldn't put it past them to just never release the game. It wouldn't be the first time they announced a DQ game, then just never released it.
>>337410325
well, Nintendo hasn't gone back on its word regarding DQ7 and 8 localizations
they'll happen
>>337400140
>regained my trust
Pretty much every Japanese company that makes JRPGs lost it last week
>>337407246
Anons SE's mobile department is huge.
>>337409957
Don't even joke about that
>>337400817
They're taking a pretty big one with XV
>>337410496
>>337409821
>SE's mobile made more revenue than traditional games for the first time this year
>>337404923
>comparing fanboyism with domestic abuse
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>337410306
Classic retard. There's enough information to know that it can't not be garbage. Hell, there's even a demo. Two of them.
>>337400140
>So /v/ has Square regained your trust?
The first Square game I played was FFXII which I thought was alright so I dunno. I never paid too much attention to them until a few years ago, so I guess they're doing better now than back in say 2009.
>Do you like Square again?
Maybe? I'm looking forward to XV and some other games, and they're certainly no Capcom or Konami. They're alright.
>>337409960
But does that mean I have to meet
Your father?
>>337410580
That's what I'm saying, if something SE might be dropping console/PC development for the mobile market any time soon.
>>337409821
Disgusting.
>>337410496
>Anons SE's mobile department is huge.
I know. And I hate it. Pretty much every series that isn't FF or DQ are being regulated to mobile only. And its also just really bad business planning as the smartphone bubble has burst. We're already seeing a 10% decline in smartphone use from 2014-2015. In a few years, the mobile market could crash.
>>337400140
I never stopped trusting them; It's Kitase and Nojima I personally don't trust.
Nomura, Tabata, and Sakaguchi seem to be pretty based.
>>337407261
I'm getting both but I'm more excited for World of Final Fantasy
>>337407261
>not getting both
>>337411119
>We're already seeing a 10% decline in smartphone use from 2014-2015
Smartphone use? Don't you mean sales?
>>337410672
He is not the first person to make that comparison. Final Fantasy fans as a whole have been suffering battered wife syndrome since the PS2 days.
>>337410672
>Being this fucking sensitive
Why the fuck are you even here? This isn't the place for you pussy ass nigga
>>337411134
>Nomura, Tabata
>based
>Sakaguchi having anything to do with SE
>>337411204
>getting either
>>337411237
No, I mean smartphone use. Both Apple and Google have said their hardware sales went down 8-10% in the last year. Software sales will probably feel it sometime in 2016.
>>337411265
>pussy ass nigga
are you white or something
>>337400140
AYYYY LMAO!!!!
>>337411119
To be fair, a good hunk of those mobile games are on the Vita as well...in Japan.
>>337400226
This.
>>337410801
You're a retard for saying the new Dissidia is shit just because it's a reboot
So of course you're shit posting, go meme in a Neptunia thread
>>337404923
>>They start to get better as of late
Not really.
>>337411425
>Japan is obsessed with mobile
>port the games to Vita as well as mobile
>make the games mobile only in the west
This company is run by geniuses.
>>337411367
I don't see how less hardware sales translates to less use, nor does it explain what people are doing instead.
>>337410523
amazon changed dq7 preorders to digital only
>>337411472
No, it's shit because it's fucking shit. But nice strawman. Kill yourself, retard.
>>337411518
The Vita doesn't mean life in the west so
>>337409614
>merchandising
You have to be a really stupid company to not make more money on toys and accessories. I see Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy toys and candy everywhere. What are they doing? Getting a $1 cut of every $40 slime plush?
>>337411586
>digital only for an RPG
Square/NoA is fucking retarded.
>>337411606
>it's shit because it's fucking shit.
how do you complain about a fallacy and then use one yourself
>>337400140
>"ports" chrono trigger into DS despite reselling it on the PS1 again in the past
>holds the sequel hostage with a threat of "if the DS version doesn't sell you won't see your dear game again"
>DS port shoehorns horrid new story and adds nothing relevant
>Fails commercially as expected and they go out of their way to say, lol it's the fanbase fault, you'll never see a sequel again
Nah, fuck those goddamn idiots, never buying again a game from them after that asspull
>>337400140
They never lost my trust to begin with, they are some of the most consistent developers around.
Ha Square hasnt been the same since 2005.
>>337411707
I'm not. There are actual reasons why it's shit but I don't see a point in listing them here.
>>337411894
>consistent developers
what do you mean by this
As far as I can tell, they haven't developed a good game in the past 10 years (except Tactics Ogre which is an enhanced port). Am I missing anything?
>>337411801
Chrono Trigger DS actually sold some 950,000 copies. A fucking port of Chrono Trigger sold only 200k less than a total remake of FFIV on the DS.
With virtually no development costs, Chrono Trigger DS obviously made more money than FFIV. But of course, SquareEnix doesn't look at profit made. They just care about units sold. Same as how Dragon Quest IX sold 1 million less than Final Fantasy XIII, but most likely made far more profit because of 1/10th the development cost.
>>337412065
Consistently shit.
>>337411801
on the same note, their excuse for not bringing DQ to the west was that it didn't have enough sales, it had about 1 million while Bravely Default had less than that and claimed that it was an eye opener and they would bring more JRPGs
makes me wish that atleast they were consistent
>>337400140
Yes due to all of their recent pc ports.
>>337410195
Do you know what? I have some hope that it will come to Steam like FF and DQ Heroes. Its being produced in Unreal Engine. Maybe even DQ Builders? A man can dream.
>>337406393
He seemed to change his ways and set the company back on the right track before he left.
>>337400140
I'll see how the FFXV pc port is first.
>>337412291
there's some hope for main series alright, but when it comes to spinoffs, there's almost no hope at all since there have been no news at all about fucking DQM1 Remake on 3DS
>>337407261
The art style is completely retarded and all over the fucking place. Who even likes chibi shit especially whatever that garbage is. It's not even cute
>>337412069
You didn't play Dissidia
>>337400140
Why would they have regained my trust?
They haven't done anything at all in the last 3 years except for a vita release on console which looks and plays worse than ff xii, which is already shit
>>337412601
They released a tonof smartphone games only in Japan.
>>337400140
I dunno. I think they are very hit and miss. They do a bunch of incredibly stupid shit, and make very bad decisions, and they're way too focused on high-fidelity graphics.
But they do make some decent games here and there.
That said I have very little faith that KH will ever reach the level of 2FM again, and even less faith that FF will ever return to its roots. After the first ten games, FF became like their "experimental" series and it's been wonky ever since.
>regained
With what? I haven't seen anyone say anything good about them in a long ass time. The hate just seems to get worse.
>>337412536
>Who even likes chibi shit
Japan, Korea, China, Thailand, Brazil, France, some parts of America...
>>337400140
Yes, they gave me a new fairy waifu
Square Enix is trash as a dev. They're a publisher first and foremost.
>>337412787
what is this
>>337412189
I don't think they were surprised at sales so much as they were surprised the West still liked turn-based traditional JRPGs, because apparently no one has bothered to tell them in the last ten fucking years
>>337400140
IS THERE DRM!?!?! PLEASE RESPOND I WANA BUY THIS BUT DONT WANAN GIVE UP MUH SHECKLES
>>337409468
>slightly mishandled
Bruh
Vanilla XIV was such a fucking shitshow that it finally pushed their shitlord CEO Yoichi Wada to resign in complete shame.
>>337412840
From the FFVII cross over in Mobius last year when the trailer was revealed at E3, shit was pretty hype
>>337412910
Fans have been yelling it at them. But they don't listen to their fans. If they did, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Square is so delusional, they still think Final Fantasy is as popular as it was in 1997.
>>337411134
Sakaguchi hasn't cared about FF since he played 15 minutes of XII, heard Masuda had left the project, and dropped the controller with no interest
>>337413321
He seems pretty interested in XV.
>>337407402
>No Ergheiz sequel yet
>>337413321
>Sakaguchi hasn't cared about FF since Final Fantasy III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuWkvyeAu0E
>>337412732
They've been making some good faith decisions.
They standardized dual audio.
Finally localized Type-0.
They're at least experimenting with DQ in the west.
They gave Nier the sequel nobody expected.
Resurrected VsXIII and XIV when they had every reason to walk away.
They're far from terrible, and better than they were five years ago.
>>337413063
You ever play it? Sure it was janky in a lot of areas, but the dungeons were better designed, the combat wasn't entirely brain-dead, and I think it looked nicer in most places.
>>337413543
>They're far from terrible, and better than they were five years ago.
To be fair it's not hard to be much better than XIV 1.0 and the XIII trilogy.The XIII trilogy isn't even the worst thing ever (they're all okay at absolute best) but it's so weird how disconnected each game is from the previous one.
They did, and I do.
>>337413321
You must not have watched any of the FFXV streams. Sakaguchi is constantly having to restrain himself from fellating Tabata on camera. In one of the streams he got drunk and started in on Kitase being a terrible director and how Tabata is so much better, etc. Tabata obviously looking extremely uncomfortable and apologetic.
>>337413796
It was so bad that they paid people to rave about it, including the manga artist of XIV, and then shot themselves in the foot by making everyone's collective playtime a stat on their profile. And guess what? All the people who raved about it, including the mangaka, were revealed to have played less than 2 hours of the game
>>337414053
Well Type-0 wasn't too bad.
>>337413543
Dual Audio is really the only thing on your list that has been a positive. All the others are minimal or promises that have yet to be made into reality.
>>337413209
The key difference is equating "popularity" to "brand recognition"
people love "Final Fantasy", it's the most iconic jrpg series in the west. each individual game is like a splintered fanbase within the FF realm though, and those are the hardest fans to please despite being the most important ones, since those people actually PLAY the games
>Square Enix
No
>>337414148
It wasn't but what tabata has been doing to XV is an abortion, even if he delivers is not what alot of us expected 10/7/3 years ago.
Nomura got too cocky but goddamn XV under its command was profiling to be the FF of the century.
>>337414362
>people love "Final Fantasy", it's the most iconic jrpg series in the west.
Pokemon surpassed it in 1998.
>>337401791
Are you fucking joking? Bravely Default is GARBAGE.
>>337414427
>Nomura got too cocky but goddamn XV under its command was profiling to be the FF of the century.
It's too bad it didn't really have much to show for it. Even though Tabata has done some questionable things so far at least it's finally coming out.
>>337414458
look i know this is pretty much a semantics argument but i don't think any normal gamer equates pokemon with jrpg, even though technically it is one.
back in 1998 when pokemon first hit, kids who played rpgs were still lumped in with D&D faggots and anime weeaboos. but pokemon was never viewed as an RPG for some reason so you werent considered a loser for playing them.
They're back.
Maybe if they stop shoving the worst FF (X) into every game console
>>337414692
Like I said he got too cocky and paid the price.
>>337414693
>look i know this is pretty much a semantics argument but i don't think any normal gamer equates pokemon with jrpg
All 'gamers' do. The general audience may not. Though still plenty of casual players know Pokemon is an RPG. Many of them got into RPGs with Pokemon.
>back in 1998 when pokemon first hit, kids who played rpgs were still lumped in with D&D faggots and anime weeaboos. but pokemon was never viewed as an RPG for some reason so you werent considered a loser for playing them.
You realize your attempt to make Pokemon seem different just destroyed your previous claims about Final Fantasy, right? Unless you're now trying to make (sweeping generalizations) that Final Fantasy fans were considered weeaboos in 1997. Before weeaboo was even a thing I might add.
>>337400140
All the newsletters they send me in Jap are about their phone games. All of them, even though I signed up for a Square account just for Bravely Default 2.
I'm honestly not sure how long we have until most companies go mobile, honestly kinda scares me. I have no proof to back that up, though.
If video games go mobile, then I guess there's not much left for me in modern gaming.I doubt I'd ever drop video games, they're too ingrained in me at this point.
>>337414807
Typical Final Fantasy fan. Praising an unreleased game. Then it comes out and you'll bitch about how it sucks.
>>337400140
No. XV looks garbage, and i can't see XVI being any better
>>337400140
No, but ask again after I've played the next Deus Ex, I am Setsuna, and Nier: Automata.
>>337411286
Tabata has his questionability, but he's alright.
Nomura hasn't put out a single bad game, and no, Kingdom Hearts, in spite of it's bizarre fucking story, is not a bad game. He's also the only person left at SE that still understands how to portray Cloud's personality.
>>337400140
They have mine. I feel like their games right now are average to great. I've bought a lot of the recent stuff.
>>337413796
Dungeons were a shitshow, combat was literally FFXI tier slow but without the skill chains or horizontal progression loot system that made FFXI combat fun, and the game ran struggled to run better than 45FPS regardless of low or max settings even on the strongest consumer available GPU on the world at the time of it's release.
>>337400140
>FXV is hot garbage and took a decade
>KH3 was announced and they expect you to be hyped without even giving us a release date
Yea no square can fuck off.
>>337400140
I've always loved Square. I don't play MMOs and I can forgive and forget XIII so I was never really that asshurt at them.
>>337415752
>Nomura hasn't put out a single bad game
I wouldn't say they're bad but KH 3214856156/2 Days, BBS and DDD are kinda meh compared to the rest of the series.
>>337415752
God damn, FFXV will look better than VII:RE
>>337416105
>filename
>>337416105
That's a mobile game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoXg-jbriaU
>>337415842
the very definition of a mindless drone
>>337416105
Here's your (you)
>>337415752
>Nomura hasn't put out a single bad game
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Stop! I'm gonna die!
>>337416105
>Luminous
>looking better than UE4
>>337400140
Not until Soft is part of them again.
>>337415794
>Dungeons were a shitshow
They were infinitely better than the garbage shit heaps XIV calls dungeons.
The combat had potential. Poor design and implementation failed to utilize the most of the combat.
And yes, the framerate was horrible, but the textures and details were above ARR.
The game definitely needed a lot of TLC, but in between 1.0 and ARR, I feel that too much was scrapped and the game just became extremely casual friendly. It could have easily become XI 2.0, or at least some variant of it, but instead we got a shitty WoW clone.
>>337416205
How so? FFXIII is the only FF game I've ever not liked and I bought it for like 6 dollars.
I love Nier, KH, Deus Ex and hell, I even kinda liked the Tomb Raider games they published. Plus everything in the pipelinr looks bretty damn good.
I don't buy mobile and I don't play MMOs. Explain why I should be mad at them.
>>337400140
no
not until drakengard and nier are on pc
>>337409516
Aren't the DQX expansions free? I thought SE release physical copies with the expansion installed instead full paid expansions like FFXIV
>>337400817
>ff 15 going against everything that is FF
>a fucking nier sequel
this is the same company that was about to close down due to lightings bullshit and failure of 14 1.0, pcfags literally saved square once yoship made ARR and now they are more daring than anyone else in this fucking industry, you fucking what
>>337401354
>No PC
failure guaranteed
>>337417003
>due to lightings bullshit
Yeah, sure, except it sold well. They just fucked up with XIV initially and lost money on that.
>>337409516
>they have to combine XIV with DQX to mask all the lost XIV subs
>various offerings
Various offerings like merchandise and cash shop shit, which is how XIV actually makes its profits. It sure as shit isn't from its less than 500k subs because the game keeps dropping subs daily like flies.
>>337416980
No, they cost money just like the FFXIV expansion. However, there are times when you can play the game with no subscription cost.
>>337418607
>mfw Dragon Quest X actually makes more money while being only in Japan
>SE still won't release it in the west
>Yoshida claims people in the west won't like it because its not a clone of WoW
>>337419520
I think it will bombs
Sure it will have players but it will be very little to make a decent profit, compare to FFXIV
>>337419584
XIV would make very little profit too if it wasn't for all its cash shop crap and all the merchandise they release. It doesn't even make enough profits from game and expansion key sales because they go on sale for $5 or less practically every fucking week, and less than 500k subs, closer to 300k subs really, isn't profitable at all for a modern MMO.
>>337419520
Get real. Thats a fact. Most people cant stomach XI in the modern land scape of MMO options... Theres no way they'll grit their teeth through DQX without that "Final Fantasy" flavor that XI had to popularize it in the west.
I want DQX but it would bomb.
>>337419584
Even if it only had 200k players, which even a non advertised Korean MMO can pull off, it would make a profit. The biggest cost is the development budget, which is already done and well made up by just Japan. The server costs will be more than made up.
Plus, since Dragon Quest X isn't a clone of WoW, it could get a EVE level following. Of people who are desperately waiting for an MMO that isn't like WoW. Not even considering its connections to SquareEnix.
It does seem like they're trying to turn themselves around from their low point a few years back in the era of XIV 1.0, XIII sequels, and shit like FF: All The Bravest. Whether they actually pull it off will take another couple of years to find out, though.
That said, I had a lot of faith in Squeenix restored when they announced Star Ocean 5- not because I gave a fuck about Star Ocean, or even because I thought it was going to be good, but because it seemed like every Japanese franchise that wasn't one of their publisher's most popular 1-3 properties was either dead or dead and having its corpse fucked in the form of garbage f2p mobile games. That they're giving their B and C-tier properties a chance again with proper console games, as well as taking risks with all new console properties like Setsuna, gives me a lot of hope for the Japanese industry as a whole.
>>337419520
I hope someone rips all the server info and makes a private server for Dragon Quest X. I don't even like to pirate games, but SquareEnix deserves it at this point. I would have been willing to pay for years of subs. But since SquareEnix doesn't care, I won't care either. Especially since they go out of their way to block foreign IPs. There's grounds that SquareEnix couldn't even prosecute people who play it illegally since there's no option to play it outside Japan.
>>337419898
I know there's no grounds for believing this. But after the announcement for FFVII:R, I have this strange feeling that SquareEnix is preparing to make a third Chrono game. To try and cash in on another beloved IP they have been ignoring for years.
>>337420202
They're making a new Saga and released a remake, they also remade the first Mana game, it's possible. It's also possible they were already planning to make one but it eventually got turned into I am Setsuna. It wouldn't be the first time a Chrono project transforms into something else before it even properly starts any development, though there's still some hope.
Speaking of, they also put some Xenogears characters into their shitty robot FPS, so there's also that.
>>337420083
I've always wanted to get a private server going. The lack of knowledge prevents me from doing it though, even though I'd maintain it with my own hardware and money
>>337420990
Until someone hacks the DQX server and downloads all the source data, we can't make a private server. Otherwise I too would have started one back in 2013.
People did it for Phantasy Star Online 2, let's hope someone does it for DQX someday.
>>337401791
bravely default has a horrible second half.
replaying the same bosses 4 times in a row because of groundhog day effect does not make an enjoyable game.
>>337421178
Amen to that
>>337421280
Which is why Final Fantasy I also sucked. But that's also why Bravely Default did that.
>>337421280
That's because Squeenix cut the budget part way through development so they had to pad out the second half.
Also why Bravely second is such a rehash, square gave them far less than they even got for the first game.
>>337400140
>>337403186
FFXIII is good.
IDK what happened to FFXIV. It was going to be amazing but felt like it was released 3 years to early.
Almost baffling. Hopefully there will be a documentary or huge piece like that Lionhead one explaining how that happened.
>>337400140
They haven't done a single good thing in like 20 years.
>>337422053
Dragon Quest and Theathrythm games were good. But that's about it.
>>337422053
Whoa, what the heck is the bottom from?
>>337422312
FFX HD.
>>337422909
I never knew this existed. Huh.
I literally like every single game I've played by them so I don't know how I could say that I don't like Square. I fucking love Square and a large number of games I'm looking forward to are coming from them.
>I Am Setsuna
>Nier Automata
>Kingdom Hearts III
>Final Fantasy XV
>Final Fantasy VII Remake
If at some point in the forseeable future TWEWY 2, Live A Live Remake, Final Fantasy XII HD Remaster, and in general more PC ports happen then they will become a literally perfect company.
>>337400140
Yes, yes.
>>337422053
>they haven't made a good thing since 1996
>there are people that actually believe this
>>337400817
Nigger they are taking more risks than any other company now.
>>337424631
An image of Kingdom Hearts doesn't help your counter argument.
>>337404118
They didn't butcher anything.
>>337424695
>SquareEnix
>taking risks
They're trying to focus on every popular fad possible. ARPGs, smartphone games and even getting their fans to fund kickstarter projects so they don't have to pay for development costs of indie games.
>>337405453
No they aren't.
If and when they put out XII HD and the remake of VII isn't butchered, then yeah.
>>337424710
>>337400140
Square never lost my trust, maybe they make some questionable design choices by their products are quality mostly. They aren't nearly as bad as ea, ubi, Bethesda..who still get stroked constantly over nothing
>>337424893
You know inevitably some change in VII Remake will make you upset right? If you're going in with the mindset of "if it isn't butchered", then you're already expecting failure and will nitpick every detail. You will find a flaw. There WILL be something wrong/inferior than the original that you'll notice and be upset about, and then you'll shitpost about it here regardless of the actual quality of the game.
>>337407261
Why would I get shitty low budget corridor theme park RPG featuring Lightning in a prominent role over a massively diverse FF open world RPG with the most ambitious scope, scale, gameplay detail an FF has ever had, with a focused story on both deep character relationships and political intrigue, and with no chance of lightning? WoFF is a bargain bin game if anything.
>>337401791
Bravely Default was mediocre and Bravely Second was complete trash with only minor improvements
>>337413321
Based Sakaguchi
>>337411134
Nojima hasn't worked at SE since 2003, he left SE after the merger then formed his own studio called Stellavista, he works on commission now, same as Uematsu and Shimomura.
FFXV looks weird as fuck. Why did they go with the fujoshi boy band party? That's sales poison. The whole game just seems like a mess of clashing design decisions.
>>337413321
The Gooch loves Tabata and is genuine excited for XV
>>337425568
They need to do that with women instead, if FFXV was just babes as the main party it would be awesome
>>337425591
More like he was paid to promote XV since SE realizes that dropping Sakaguchi was their greatest mistake after the XIII series.
>>337414427
XV now is better than it ever was before, stop kidding yourself.
>>337416462
It objectively does.
Nope. They can burn for all I care.
>>337425568
FF has always had a male focus since the beginning. Nomura just got control and ran with it. For obvious reasons.
If you want a series that pays attention to the females and lets you run around with an all female party, you need to play Dragon Quest.
