NEW ZONES IN WORLD OF WARCRAFT LEGION SCALE TO YOUR LEVEL
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
>>337384232
Wait, there are people who think this is a bad idea?
>>337384232
Why does the game even have levels anymore?
>>337384232
thats old as fuck news, there is no linear progression through zones you can do them in any order, they confirmed that a long time ago
>>337384232
>Things scale
They really didn't think this one through did they? How are they going to take retards money if they can't make new and harder areas?
Hm, maybe the designers considering they've watched all their content/areas become irrelevant once these people level past it.
>>337384232
>Hating literally the ONLY thing Legion is doing right (on paper)
People have been bitching about more content to do in the world, if all zones are still worth visiting at cap then the game might actually feel alive, not to mention it sucks dick going through the same linear zone progression after the first time through.
If there are two characters playing side by side, but are 15 levels apart, what level is the zone scaling to?
>>337384695
>get lvl 1 char
>tp to last zone and work your way backwards
Wait, there are people who think this is a bad idea?
>>337384875
By giving all enemies more agressive and challenging mechanics. At least, that's how I'd do it.
>all areas are now scaled
>can never just relax in low level zones knowing there's no threat
>turn what is already a boring same-fest of activities into a more homogeneous mixture of grinding that feels exactly the same no matter where you are
>>337385171
It's for 100 to 110 you dolt. Jesus Christ.
>remove levels from game
>game is now actually about the adventure of the journey instead of MUH ENDGAME since all game is endgame
based Guild Wars 1
Everyone is going to lvl to cap with dungeon finder anyway
>>337385640
It's only in the expansion zones.
>>337385130
its probably self instanced for level or some shit
idk how it works
>>337384232
you dipshits really will complain about anything if it's WoW doing it, christ
>>337384232
I'm just wondering, what's the point of leveling then even
If I level up and I become stronger, which is supposed to be a reward for the effort I put into leveling, the mobs scale with me and everything stays the same
why level? why even have levels?
>>337386572
I dunno man, even FF8 did it and leveling in that only makes battles more tedious.
>>337386773
exactly
>level 110 defias pillager
HUH
>>337387148
it doesn't scale in the old world
>>337386349
But what if both characters fight the same mob? Which character does it scale to?
This makes no fucking sense at all.
>>337384875
This is what everyone asked for though. Blizzard does listen and then you find out Metzen was correct when he told everyone to stfu.
Mobs scale as you level but not the moment you ding. There's a leeway for it so you can finish a quest for a gear peice or zone out/in before they power up.
Too much bitching about everyone being funnled into the starting zones and leveling being linear so you get this crap.
We want the guild wars 2 audience
>>337385069
So go back and do the zones. The quests don't magically disapear once you outlevel them. If you want the play the content then go play through it. Overleveled just makes it easy but the story for each zone remains to be done.
If you don't care abuot the story/lore then you have no reason to go back to do all the quests anyway. You're just bitching cause it went too/slow fast for no good reason.
I never liked scaling in RPG games. What's the point of leveling up if the rest of the world (or limited areas in this case) just level up with you? They were happy to announce that killing one boar would take the same amount of time regardless of your level, but I want to get 3 more levels and kill that fucking boar faster, because that's what leveling - getting stronger - means to me.
>>337388820
Overleveled makes it absolutely stupid easy, just one-two shot every single thing. That's not fun at all
It's actually a good idea because its hell trying to level on release day when everyone is congested in the same area.
>>337385069
Scaled shit works good on paper but in practice it's the most retarded cunting shite, ever.
Skyrim: You're now a legendary badass cunting warrior who kills dragons with ease. But bandits kick your ass, when a normal dragon does jack shit. And in Oblivion it looked worse because they wore goddamn Daedric if you grinded to high levels.
>>337387781
I guess the one that tagged it
>>337389235
Yes and? You're bound to outlevel content. It happens. Even back in vanilla there was a shit ton of quests that you outleveled at somepoint.
The entire concept of the quest system was having multiple zones to choose from as you levled up. You've been given options then get upset cause you got too strong using them. It's a rather stupid complaint.
>>337385130
>>337386349
>>337387781
First of all, you can only be a max of 10 levels apart.
It scales to both of you. If a level 103 player and a 106 player are fighting the same mob, they will each see the mob as their own level, and do the corresponding amount of damage. Basically, it just worried about percentages instead of the actual numbers.
>>337384232
every zone should scale though, would be less boring to be an alt whore, i have 6 lvl 100 characters
What's the point of leveling if they make it so I can't just blow through lower level mobs?
>people still play WoW
everyone I know, including two teachers I knew in high school quit playing this shit in 2009
>>337389997
Getting better gear. Mobs only scale to level, not gear ilvl. So you'll still be able to blow everything up after you get geared as usual.
>>337390660
The people who still play are addicts. Literal manchildren who can't let go of the past.
>>337390660
Might I suggest you go find a game you enjoy and play that then? There's still a very large fanbase for WoW and people usually look foward to new expansions either for the changes or the trainwreck.
>>337389209
>>337390921
>There's still a very large fanbase for WoW
its less than 2 mil now bud
>>337384232
Every time I feel a bit of nostalgia for WoW and consider resubbing, blizzard does something else to make it even worse.
The game will never be good again, will it?
>>337384232
So they just made the whole point of leveling to get stronger pointless now?
Wow confirmed dead 2016
Remember all those great times that level scaling worked out, like FF VIII, where fighting enemies only makes the game harder for you, or Oblivion, where deciding not to sleep turns you into the rape-god of death
>>337384232
Seems fine. Its kinda lame that there is usually 2 or 3 zones around the same level range, and if you skip one and come back later its just a stomp
>>337384232
I had the feeling they would pull this shit. I guess it's best to solo as much content while you still can. Considering soloing raids used to be 4X harder before that health scaling adjustment.
>>337391309
this must be why i never had any trouble with oblivion
when i first got it i didn't even know sleeping was a thing until like two weeks later
>>337389627
It sucks in those games because you're starting at zero, and so the shit you fight in the early game is also zero.
That's not the case in Legion. The shit you fight at level 100 is gonna look pretty much as tough as the shit you fight at 110
>>337385171
You are trying way too hard dude.
>>337391472
It's only for new leveling zones except one that will be 110 no matter what.
the fuck is even the difference? i haven't played in years but when leveling you always leveled at about the same pace as the zones unless you spammed the shit out of dungeons or something.
>>337391091
I was waiting for that to be posted.
Notice how the start of every expansion subs rise. Notice how subs rose even higher at the start of WoD compaired to MoP?
Subs fell off hard for WoD but there's alaos a population boom with a new expansion or major content patch. You're an idiot if you think legion isn't going to sell like crazy.
Espically with interest being generated from the upcomming warcraft movie and freebie giveaway.
Now will legion hold onto subs? Probably not but you'd an idiot if you think the fanbase isn't waiting to jump on something new once it's released.
>>337389627
You forgot the part where you don't fight strong people on the world, but on dungeons. You probably going to find murloc in the broken are they really that much stronger than those at westfall?
inb4 fel
>>337391686
The difference is you can do the expansion zones in any order you want
>>337384232
>Still playing WoW
>enemies difficulty in variety in spells doesn't change anymore, only base level stats
>>337392430
They're only levelling mobs, jesus christ. Levelling mobs never had variety in spells and abilities.
Dungeon and raid mobs have variety in their abilities based on difficulty.
>>337392598
>Levelling mobs never had variety in spells and abilities.
uhm what? have you even played the game in recent years?
>>337392598
>Levelling mobs never had variety in spells and abilities.
t. person who never played wow
>>337391792
jacked ass murlocs yo they probably got a door so they got a gym
>>337392730
Up to cataclysm, they didn't.
And nostalgiafags are always talking about pre-MoP
>>337384232
The ONLY thing I am pissed off about is the removal of PvP Gear in Legion and the "Leveling the playing field" in PvP by removing all stats except for whatever your spec is so 8 year old Timmy in green quality gear can be just as powerful as you are in fully enchanted purple quality conquest gear..
>>337393041
t. redridge valley flight path camper
>>337392920
>never had variety
>not before cataclysm
dat backpeddling
>And nostalgiafags are always talking about pre-MoP
cataclysm is pre-mop
>>337393373
Cataclysm world mobs were just as boring as any mobs that came before. None of them required interrupts or avoiding abilities like MoP and WoD ones do. That's why I said up to Cataclysm there was no variety.
To say something like
>enemies difficulty in variety in spells doesn't change anymore
is fucking retarded, because until MoP came along they never fucking did in the first place. And if you think the scaling enemies in Legion won't still have the added mechanics just because they scale you're an idiot.
>>337384232
Honestly the grind to max level was always an annoying part of WoW since the entire game was essentially in the endgame and the leveling felt more as the learning curve to your class, but just became tedious once you figure it out. Also made playing with friends impossible since they'll never add a way to scale a friend's level up/down temporarily and you'd either only play the character when you're both available or always be playing the catch up game.
However as of late their end game has been shit so this really doesn't mean anything.
>>337393696
>That's why I said up to Cataclysm there was no variety.
up to cataclysm would mean that in cataclysm they started having more variety
retard
but really mobs always had variety in spells and abilities, even in vanilla, if they didn't it would mean all of them had the same spells and abilities
if you believe that you are retarded
>>337394213
Variety as in mob A is melee, mob B is ranged and mob C is ranged but uses magic?
It's not like that's going away either. I don't see why you'd have to make shit up to make Legion look bad. Surely there's enough actual bad shit in there for you to pick at already.
I'd rather keep the game world relevant instead of becoming a super saiyan after 10 levels above the zone. The only exception is that I like soloing old raids/dungeons, so I would like an option there. If it were up to me I'd make all the zones scale to level to make the old world content remain semi-relevant and even draw people back into them through quests. I don't mean that you would get blasted by boars after killing the lich king (although that already happens now with expansions), but at least prevent the one shots.
>>337394479
variety as in they have different abilities
retard
stop talking about things you know nothing about
>>337394610
>variety as in they have different abilities
And what's your point? They'll still have different fucking abilities in Legion.
Are you complaining that when they scale they won't get new abilities? They never fucking did. Mobs have never scaled before. Except in dungeons and raids of course, where they DO have different abilities.
>>337384695
It's bad because it feels like your character doesn't progress. There's no incentive to level up and collect better gear if the enemies scale with you.
>>337394784
you're completely changing the topic, I never complained about anything, you said there was never any variety in spells and abilities, now that you're losing the argument you're shifting the goalposts
eat shit motherfucker
>>337395127
You just never understood my argument in the first fucking place. I responded to this post
>>337392430
Because they were implying they Legion won't have shit that older versions of the game had. Which is blatantly false.
>>337395310
I read what you said
you said
>Levelling mobs never had variety in spells and abilities.
which is blatantly false
seriously give up
you're just embarrassing yourself
>>337395643
But I was right. There was literally no variety beyond the three archetypes. Melee, ranged and spell caster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9wVuN9_vzExD
>>337396209
you're an idiot
>>337396275
NO! THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE GREAT! DELETE THIS!
>>337396873
>can't dispute it
>resorts to insults
>>337396275
llane looks like a betamale cuck
the acting is so bad
and the CGI looks goofy
orcs fists are bigger than their heads
I know orcs are bigger than humans, but this looks fucking weird
>>337396275
>>337397027
i just can't handle how it's real humans and literally everything else in the world is CGI
either make it all CGI or don't
>>337384232
>a lvl 10 will get at least 8 BiS legendaries while leveling
>T-the game isnt d-dead!! h-honest!!! p-please sub...
>>337396275
The Durotan and whoever the fuck else that's supposed to be scene wasn't bad but the rest was garbage.
>>337396275
Hooooly shit that looks awful.
You know it's fucking bad when the ONE good scene involves the dindu Orcs.
>>337385171
WoW is garbage but this is you right now.
SWTOR and GW2 has player characters scaling to the area's general level. I feel that is a better way of doing it, but I still didn't like it when they applied it everywhere.
>>337384232
Sounds good to me, makes leveling and questing less linear.
Isn't that what we want in these games, MORE options?
>>337394791
The enemies scale on level only. The scaling factor of these mobs will be irrelevant in less than twenty hours playtime, that's assuming you suck massive dong at leveling.
I hated this shit in Guild Wars 2 I'm glad theyre bringing it to WoW so I have a reason to not buy legion I was actually thinking about it too
